Was Martin Luther Right? | Catholic Perspective on Protestant Reformation

Was Martin Luther Right? As the world observes the 500th anniversary of Martin Luther’s nailing of his “95 Theses” to the door of Wittenberg Cathedral, we reflect on the history and theology of this major event in the life of the world with a lecture series featuring several scholars in Church history and Sacred Scripture.
▶ This video is an excerpt from our series, “The Reformation and the Grace of Conversion,” featuring Dr. Tim Gray.
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Timestamps
0:00 Introduction
5:13 Luther Was Not the Only Reformer: Cardinal Cisneros
13:39 Addressing Luther's Open Letter to Christian Nobility
17:42 Addressing Luther's "On the Babylonian Captivity of the Church"
24:58 Addressing Luther's "On Christian Liberty" and "Faith Alone"
36:09 Luther's Misreading of St. Paul
46:07 What are Works?
50:03 Addressing "Grace Alone"
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[@tomrhodes1629]

GOD's prophet, the prophesied return of Elijah, speaks: Very good lecture. The great error of Martin Luther was to remove LOVE from the equation. And this is why the Catholic Church was - and remains - closer to Truth. However, when GOD says "good news," GOD means GOOD NEWS! And almost no organized Christian Church (with one notable exception) has the true "Gospel" of Yeshua One with Christ ("Jesus Christ"). That's why I was sent. But as Revelation Chapter Eleven indicates, I am to be mostly rejected, just as GOD's prophets (and Jesus Christ) have always been rejected. Because, everyone already "knows" everything. "Unless ye become as little children" and are fearless enough to admit that you don't really know, GOD cannot instruct you and "you will not enter into the Kingdom of GOD." "But be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world." And, "GOD our Savior will have all men to be saved and come unto knowledge of the truth." Want to know more? Click and ye shall find.

[@Bullcutter]

The speaker brushes over the reasons why Luther raised his objections! You don't mention the arrogant Pope who refused to listen to his objections and instead orders his arrest so that he could be tried and burnt at the stake, that's how the Catholic Church used to deal with her critics! You choose not to mention that Luther was a Catholic Monk and a professor at a Catholic university, making him sound as though he was an outsider! He never wanted to break away. It was arrogance and refusal of the Pope that led to his position hardening and becoming polarised against the Church. Other reformers took Protestantism further away, something Luther disagreed with. The same can be said of the England breaking away from the Church. Had the Pope granted Henry the marriage annulment he was seeking, there would have been no need for a Protestant England! The Catholic Church, drunk with civil power, became God on earth and commited huge errors and crimes and brought shame to Christ! Reformation was sent by the Risen Lord Jesus to bring the Church back to its senses! After the explosion of Protestantism, the Catholic Church leadership woke up and started the clean up of its corrupt clergy and abuse of their power (eg, selling forgiveness for money!). Why don't you state the past sins of the Church and apologise for them, so the simple Catholics who often are filled with hatred, can understand why Luther, a Catholic Professor of the Church, did what he did! Start being honest, one of the most important virtues of a Christian. Stop the polemics and start an honest analysis of Church history!

[@travelsouthafrica5048]

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[@Elwood_McCable]

@@Bullcutter does your self-contradicting, accusatory polemic make sense even to yourself?

[@Bullcutter]

@@Elwood_McCable Can you please point out, where the self- contradiction is in my post?

[@ursulapainter992]

This is what a Catholic university should be like. Thank you.

[@billsmith147]

I did 4 years at a Catholic University, Theology classes were a joke, more like philosophy classes. Priests were clueless. They knew they were full exposed to the truth.

[@seikopatton4782]

Only 1300 views??? And yet people waste hours and hours on mindless videos, when they could be watching wonderful videos like this! Thank you and God Bless!!!

[@Christian-lm6qh]

Seiko Patton How many of your friends have you sent it to?

[@paulinsana4482]

The reason for the lack of views is due to the lack of Gray’s scripture adherence and truth..

[@protdoomer2305]

Right!? LoL

[@jimroth2473]

@@paulinsana4482 elaborate

[@jlouis4407]

29,000 now though. 😁

[@albertoascari2542]

Excellent video.. I heard a debate by Catholic Appologist Trent Horne before debating a Protestant. This is wonderful that this video leads on

[@davido3026]

Trent was a Protestant!!! Before he saw the Truth 1Timothy 3:15!!!

[@Rue1008]

That was incredibly helpful, thank you Dr Tim Gray. It explained so much that I had found confusing (as a 'reformed' Protestant). I am on my way Home. God Bless this Institute 🙏

[@marittapereira1790]

Thank you Dr. Tim Gray... That was wonderful 🙏

[@dmcdmc3777]

I was raised protestant. I am now converting to Catholic. I have never been happier. Deep in history is to cease to be protestant.

[@fantasia55]

Early Christianity was very Catholic.

[@jlouis4407]

Yep, convert here too.

[@marccrotty8447]

Dmc Dmc. Be discerning of what any particular parish teaches. Years ago I participated in an RCIA program. It took me a long while to learn that much of it was worthless. Attend the Latin Mass if possible. This is the surest means of assuring orthodoxy. So glad for you.

[@admiraltodd413]

God bless you and welcome home,Catholic church is so beautiful! Love to you!

[@dmcdmc3777]

@@marccrotty8447 I didnt have to do RCIA cause I've studied the Catholic Church for the last 2 years. I got enough faith built up to go to mass one Sunday and I loved it. So I am being brought in with just 6 weeks of meeting with the Deacon. My church is amazing. Thanks.

[@DS-ru6rj]

One of the best videos I have ever seen and listened to. Thank you.

[@annaluisa379]

Every christian should listen to this! Excellent! Thank you! God Bless You!

[@johnbuchan4664]

Are you born again?

[@judgedredd31]

@@johnbuchan4664 I am!!! SDG

[@johnbuchan4664]

@@judgedredd31. God bless . When you meet our saviour it will be a glorious day for you

[@judgedredd31]

@@johnbuchan4664 amen brother. I’m sure SOME might judge me with the “sin of presumption,” but Jesus tells us differently, thanks be to Him!

[@lisamarie2784]

Sadly many so-called Christians are ignorant of Church history or choose to pretend it doesn't exist. This is why there are over 60,000 different "Christian churches". Chaos.

[@deusvultiam]

Very informative and educative. Thank you very much for sharing.

[@Topsurgeons2]

Every Catholic should be required to see and listen to this and many other videos!!!! GOLD!

[@champikakumaraperu176]

One of the great talks I ever listened. Thank you

[@susanterry3687]

I am a Lutheran. I am looling forward to watching this.

[@chase6579]

Did you watch it?

[@Ben-kh7wh]

He completely misread what Luther was saying

[@lootbaglex3612]

@@Ben-kh7wh Nah he just left u thinking 😂

[@JeanmarieRod]

He is VERY dishonest about Luther’s life and work in this. Read the Metaxes biography of Luther that came out in 2016 or so.

[@GerhardWanninger-fi4bl]

@@JeanmarieRod In 1521, Pope Leo X issued the bull that finally excommunicated Martin Luther as a heretic. 'Naturally' every Catholic will misread Luther's work and his life, otherwise, the 'club' would admit that Pople Leo X made a very wrong decision and Martin Luther was right.

[@Travis1365]

Excellent, very insightful and clear. God bless you.

[@randycharlesfrench1680]

Awesome teachings. Thank you and God bless you

[@att9060]

Thanks so much bro for your great and useful spiritual good works .

[@SputnikRX]

Seeing this after seeing a Lutheran perspective on all the same points about Luther's life. Always interesting to see the subtle differences in how two sides tell the same story.

[@olivawechsler5690]

Thank you! It was a fascinating explanation about Luther! God bless…

[@nancyfernandes7940]

So enriched by this video. Tnk u n God bless.

[@joedunnuck4813]

Thank you for this teaching! Great clarity for me and my walk of faith!

[@juanisaac5172]

Luther was all for the Reformation until he lost control of it. Other people got other interpretations rather than his from reading the scriptures. The protestants only had ONE council to hash out their differences called the Marburg Colloquy to hash out the essence of the Eucharist. They could not come to one conclusion and have been dividing ever since. And yet they all claim to have the real Gospel.

[@jlouis4407]

Yeah the philosophy that Luther had would look Catholic to Protestants today.

[@juanisaac5172]

@@jlouis4407 Yes, you are correct. And Luther would be something akin to a Rad Trad.

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

At the core, they do agree. We are saved by faith, not by works lest any man should boast, and need to be born again in Christ. As children of God and as believers, we live out our faith by stopping sin since we believe we are children of God. The gospel is really very simple at its core.

[@greghamilton3830]

@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr amen!

[@chadpilled7913]

One of the big things protestants have in common is that they camp out on single verses and don't read the entire Bible in context, let alone within a faith tradition. So they have all this confusion because they take a single quote as an absolute and then get completely undone when presented with a part of scripture that "contradicts" their first claim. But scripture cannot contradict itself . They have a problem with nuance, I guess is what I am getting at. And then when people camp out on one verse rather than another a new sect is born.

[@jamescarrisalez1825]

I hope Dr. Gray comes out with more stuff!!!

[@ravindertalwar553]

Congratulations 👏 for organizing this wonderful event

[@ar_galaxy_kittyqueen_cat3142]

Great speaker and very enlightening Dr Tim. I love your lectures. God bless you.

[@williamgideme2689]

Question If the original catholic entered into such conflicting teachings plus missing of line of authority from Peter the apostal why are them claiming to have authority from him. priesthood

[@rsmyth75]

@@williamgideme2689 wow I’m amazed

[@barbarashen686]

Great lecture ! Informative hope to hear from Dr Tim more

[@luigimoonriver2017]

I'm so thankful to you for all this knowledge taught in clear detail!!

[@glendamcgee1779]

Yes - clear is the operative word.

[@JeanmarieRod]

Too bad it isn’t true

[@ritheshkumar3009]

@@JeanmarieRod can you prove it??

[@josephdegance184]

Really great! Understandable and enlightening.

[@reginaperry9474]

😅

[@lisamarie2784]

Oh interesting yesterday was the feast of St. Giles. Thank you for this wonderful series Dr. Gray.

[@dynamic9016]

Thanks much for this video.

[@janettedavis6627]

You saw me hungry you did not feed me. Yyou saw me naked you did not clothe me. You saw me thirsty you did not give me to drink . These are words of Jesus.

[@michaelcivitella7783]

Yes they were but he spoke many other words that for some reason liberals like you leave out. Why? And when I say “liberal “ I realize I’m being judgmental and I’m sorry for that but like Martin Luther you are leading people away from Christ with your beliefs

[@barbwellman6686]

Christ commands Christians to perform works of mercy for salvation and said He will not save the lawless. Matthew 25:35-4 Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Away from Me, you that are under God's curse! Away to the eternal fire which has been prepared for the Devil and his angels! I was hungry but you would not feed Me, thirsty but you would not give Me a drink; I was a stranger but you would not welcome Me in your homes, naked but you would not clothe Me; I was sick and in prison but you would not take care of Me.’ “Then they will answer Him, ‘When, Lord, did we ever see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and would not help You?’ The King will reply, ‘I tell you, whenever you refused to help one of these least important ones, you refused to help Me.’ Matthew 7: 21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’

[@barbwellman6686]

@Questa Semplice Animazione See my post for an explanation.

[@tomrhodes1629]

Yes, the great error of Martin Luther was to remove LOVE from the equation. And this is why the Catholic Church was - and remains - closer to Truth. However, when GOD says "good news," GOD means GOOD NEWS! And almost no organized Christian Church (with one notable exception) has the true "Gospel" of Yeshua One with Christ ("Jesus Christ"). That's why I was sent. (GOD's prophet, the prophesied return of Elijah, speaks.) And as Revelation Chapter Eleven indicates, I am to be mostly rejected, just as GOD's prophets (and Jesus Christ) have always been rejected. Because, everyone already "knows" everything. "Unless ye become as little children" and are fearless enough to admit that you don't really know, GOD cannot instruct you and "you will not enter into the Kingdom of GOD." "But be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world." And, "GOD our Savior will have all men to be saved and come unto knowledge of the truth." Want to know more? Click and ye shall find.

[@Dorfapoligetik]

im follower of Luther i don't need to feed you....i don't need to clothe you poor Bastard ....my faith is enough to salvation ..... [truly satanic thinking]

[@deborahjohnson9877]

I love the confraternities at around the one hour point of the video. 🙏

[@blueskysunnyday6239]

I love listening to your teaching, Dr. Gray! Thank you for exposing us to Luther’s errors and the consequences. Keep up the great work! I am listening for the second time and taking notes. This lesson is so rich that I will be listening again and again. I teach 9th graders who are preparing for Confirmation, so this is extremely valuable. I wished I had learned all of this earlier.

[@PatrickSteil]

May God Bless you and you teaching of the One True Faith to the next generation!

[@ruthdilbeck2035]

An excellent presentation.

[@angusmcsnort5370]

I really like the explanation of the order of the catechism

[@marknovetske4738]

Great lecture series....bravo 👏

[@MaranglikPeterTo-Rot-dm4nc]

Thank you very much for this amazing and informative video.

[@artiecullen2511]

Love this 🕊 I will always remain Teachable 🧐🙏

[@anarodriguez6529]

Very informative, and thanks to God at that time there were no Netflix

[@TheRootedWord]

24:03 I drew attention to this as well. The Protestant doctrine of Sola Scriptura depends on someone to sit in judgment of both Praxis of the Church and on Scripture itself. Jacob (aka James) derides the one who sits in judgment on the law.

[@PInk77W1]

What does Sola Scriptura mean ? The Bible doesn’t say. Me thinks Sola Scriptura means something Different to every Protestant

[@johnbuchan4664]

Only Jesus Christ can sit in judgment

[@PInk77W1]

@@johnbuchan4664 Jesus said to the apostles “Whose sins YOU Forgive They are forgiven” Jn 20:23

[@TheRootedWord]

@@PInk77W1 yes and that did not include Luther since he revealed himself as a false teacher having been destroyed in Korah's rebellion (see Jude)

[@TheRootedWord]

@@PInk77W1 It is not a biblical concept. Luther invented it to attempt to sieze control from the Catholic hierarchy. Sola Scriptura is an historical concept implicit in most Protestant theology and praxis. In short it can be summarized in this way: the Scriptures are the final authority for judging every Christian regardless of office or title.

[@fekaduyoseph379]

I AM VERY DELIGHTED .THANKS LORD JESUS CHRIST. GOD BLESS YOUR WORK. AMEN.

[@johnangelino437]

Thank you, Sir! God bless your work!

[@MrsYasha1984]

Thank you so much for this gem of a video. I have learned so much!

[@AlexSmith-fs6ro]

Yo también.

[@tomrhodes1629]

Want to learn a lot more? GOD's prophet, the prophesied return of Elijah, speaks: Very good lecture. The great error of Martin Luther was to remove LOVE from the equation. And this is why the Catholic Church was - and remains - closer to Truth. However, when GOD says "good news," GOD means GOOD NEWS! And almost no organized Christian Church (with one notable exception) has the true "Gospel" of Yeshua One with Christ ("Jesus Christ"). That's why I was sent. But as Revelation Chapter Eleven indicates, I am to be mostly rejected, just as GOD's prophets (and Jesus Christ) have always been rejected. Because, everyone already "knows" everything. "Unless ye become as little children" and are fearless enough to admit that you don't really know, GOD cannot instruct you and "you will not enter into the Kingdom of GOD." "But be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world." And, "GOD our Savior will have all men to be saved and come unto knowledge of the truth." Want to know more? Click and ye shall find.

[@Zylec]

Wonderful. Thank you.

[@Piccolo_Re]

Where can we find exact quotes or information about what Luther was saying? What source is this information coming from about what Luther was trying to say?

[@margokupelian344]

But good works is an expression or a manifestation of the soul: wanting the good of others, helping others, being a good example to others and inspiring them to do the same. You did some psychological analysis of Luther. I think if we go deeper into his psyche, we might find other psychological factors that led him to separate from the church. Thank you for this video. It was very enlightening. God bless.

[@reigndallas6290]

The judgment is to reward Christian’s for their works not condemn them to hell bc of works! Huge difference.

[@e.w.1179]

Thank you Dr Tim., and God Bless you.

[@swm1963duluth]

This is an excellent talk but I wish you had included the Q/A section.

[@faithalone2171]

​ @J Louis *All my points remain unchallenged.* *James and Luther used Faith Alone differently. This is how its different:* - Salvation is Not By Works ( *By Faith Alone* ) - Eph 2:8-9. - Practical Christian Living is By Works ( *Not By Faith Alone* ) - Eph 2:10, James 2, Mat 7, Gal 5:22, 1 Cor 13. *This is where James 2 comes in - Practical Christian Living.*

[@deborahjohnson9877]

Four cardinal virtues: prudence, justice, fortitude, temperance. My notes for around 57:00 minute point.

[@kkhickman1926]

I've taken an interest in Luther to help me with apologetics. Dr Grey's presentation of Luther's anthropology provides so much clarity why he preached Sola Fide, which is not only unbiblical, but ANTIbiblical. This is an excellent talk that deserves repeated viewing.

[@jlouis4407]

You can’t take one verse in Romans and hang all of your theology on it and ignore everything else.

[@kathleencook3060]

Great to know that people can study Apologetics today. I was lucky enough to study it in my Senior years in High School, a two year period. We also had a very scholarly teacher who visited once a week for those two years. It was extremely interesting as it covered the whole subject!

[@MFPWM2010]

@@jlouis4407 There are other verses the speaker didn’t address but I wish he would have. They seem to support the protestant view. These include: Ephesians 2:5 Ephesians 2:8-10 2 Timothy 1:9 1 Corinthians 15:9-10 Romans 4:13-16

[@peterj6740]

@@MFPWM2010 It just proves that the speaker does not understand the Scriptures. I just read all those above scriptures and it contradicts what this speaker believes. By grace through faith and it is not of ourselves but again i say by the grace of God and how is it received simply by faith . Romanism does not not know what do do with faith but they say it is not sufficient but add and again add and continually add unscriptural doctrines and simply add confusion on top of confusion and as a result Roman Catholics become more confused about what constitutes salvation.

[@MFPWM2010]

@@peterj6740 Here are a few more passages I found that support Luther’s position: Galatians 2:16 Galatians 3:2-14 Romans 3:20-31 From my understanding of the protestant view, the belief is that we are saved by faith, and thus compelled to do good works as a manifestation of this faith. As our works are a reflection of the heart.

[@annabellealmado5399]

Good morning Mr. Tim Gray.....kindly explain, why you said that Giles of Viterbo was the first reformer of the Church since during my studies of the history of the Church it was an Augustinian monk by the name of Martin Luther?

[@loramcclamrock5549]

He explains in the first part of this video.

[@HarveyHomeSchoolMomma]

Can you please address Pope Leo X, Johann Tetzel and indulgences..?

[@michaelciccone2194]

Why aren't there are representatives from the Missouri Synod or Wisconsin Synod Lutheran church at this lecture? This way we can have more balanced picture of Martin Luther.

[@davido3026]

Darkness flees from the light

[@clancynielsen6800]

David O, you must have caught the first flight ✈️ out of the gate

[@davido3026]

@@clancynielsen6800 I got it on the flight!!! The Church of Christ from 33 AD is found throughout the world!!! Martin came 15 centuries too late, and your folly follows him after 5 centuries of darkness!!!

[@jeaninejones7308]

So down to earth and practical. I loved it. Amen

[@sherrigrey8131]

And the truth will set you free. My people parish for a lack of knowledge. Well done!😇

[@shayalynn]

What about the truth of the Inquisitions? Do you know how many times it happen, how long it happened for by any chance..? Just curious because nobody seems to talk about it.

[@joanneshea749]

Thank you! God bless❤️🙏😘

[@sonyaneal6539]

Prayer, Creed, Liturgy/Sacraments, Moral life....that order has made sense for me personally. Because without prayer, how can the Holy Spirit speak to me, to have faith in the Creed, to see, to hear as to understand the Liturgy/Sacraments/Scripture to further mature, living the moral life. I don't know everything. But that is what my heart and brain put together for myself. Thank you for all you do in building the Kingdom of God. Peace and Joy in the Most Holy Light of Christ Jesus.

[@lynnaweston2174]

Wow! I am not Catholic, technically I'm not reformed, but I can relate to all of this and understand the difficulties that Luther presented.

[@simonskinner1450]

I sympathise with your situation and have studied hard to find the truth, and would like to invite you to watch my series of Ytube videos 'Myths in so-called Christianity', as we need to come together in one faith. Most Myths come from the Reformation and I was brought up C of E. I hope you watch as they are free to Ytubers, and the site is in my full name Simon John Skinner. If you agree please tell others.

[@PInk77W1]

What are u ? Baptist ? Protestant ? Nondenominational?

[@lynnaweston2174]

@@PInk77W1 nope

[@PInk77W1]

@@lynnaweston2174 What then ? Anglican ? JW ? Mormon ?

[@israelisthechosen]

@@PInk77W1 biblical like the first century christians

[@marci230]

Grzegorz Braun " Martin Luther and his protestant revolution " great documentary

[@TheRootedWord]

11:16 Pope JPII got the idea of the new Springtime from the Prague Spring which the Polish tanks of the Warsaw Pact crushed at the orders of Moscow. It was a Reformation through small efforts of printing and the arts and theology, etc... as small acts of the powerless against the powers of Communism. It was the fountainhead from whence arose Vaclav Havel, the primary dissident from 1968-1989 and later President of Czechoslovakia.

[@hogandonahue9598]

Pray for our protestant brothers and sisters. Such a terrible schism in our history but God is in controle. I pray some day our brothers and sisters in Christ return to the true Church.

[@stephendouglas4870]

Not likely. The Church of Rome still cannot bring itself to apologise for the burning at the stake of Jan Huss, who was far from anything extreme in his questioning of the Church.

[@annakimborahpa]

1) In his sixteenth century call to the papacy requesting reform, could one say that Augustinian monk & bishop Giles of Iturbo wanted to turbocharge the Church? 2) In addition to being what Professor Gray says at 14:27-32, "Luther was a master of rhetoric and he was a master communicator; he could get the crowds whipped up..", I also find that he was without parallel in the inflicting of insults. Although Martin Luther was entirely serious in his final written testament Against the Roman Papacy, An Institution of the Devil, composed in 1545 one year before his death, YOU BE THE JUDGE of these near final words he addressed to the Catholic Bishop of Rome: "I would not dream of judging or punishing you, except to say that you were born from the behind of the devil, are full of devils, lies, blasphemy, and idolatry; are the instigator of these things, God's enemy, Antichrist, desolater of Christendom, and steward of Sodom." (Against the Roman Papacy, an Institution of the Devil from Vol. 41 of Luther's Works, p. 363) 3) With his invention of the generic Protestant dogma of 'justification by faith alone' by adding the word 'alone' (Allein) to his German translation of the Bible in Romans 1:28, Martin Luther downplayed the Letter of James as an 'epistle of straw' with its emphasis on the necessity of good works in conjunction with faith. However, I also would like to think that he may have been bothered by these words of James, Chapter 3:6-9, "The tongue is also a fire. It exists among our members as a world of malice, defiling the whole body and setting the entire course of our lives on fire, itself set on fire by Gehenna. For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and sea creature, can be tamed and has been tamed by the human species, but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.With it we bless the Lord and Father, and with it we curse human beings who are made in the likeness of God."

[@chase6579]

I forget who said it but one of the saints said that it was revealed that Luther was in hell not for heresy but for his pride.

[@annakimborahpa]

@@chase6579 Whoever may be in hell is due to their own free choice in rejecting God. At the center of this rejection is their failure to repent, hence the sin of pride, like that of the fallen angels. God does not desire this for anyone and therefore neither should we.

[@israelisthechosen]

@@chase6579 that saint is not a saint because he took judgment of God on his own

[@twobluebirds5647]

Charles Buxton, exactly. And this 'saintly man', Luther, had the Spirit of God speak through him when he added the word 'alone'? ! I don't think so. His language is foul. The suffering he unleashed upon Europe through the wars and upheavals of the reformation were shocking.

[@petegalvez7955]

James 3:6-9 pertains to works as evidence of true faith. In other words, genuine saving faith is obedient faith. Lingering disobedience (sans obedience, "works") is fake faith. And Philippians 2:12 indicates "works" as evidence of being saved, and not works in order to be saved. And verse 13 of Philippians, "For God is working in you, giving you the desire to obey Him, and the power to do what pleases Him" (NLT). The desire and empowering is the Holy Holy Spirit's sancifying ministry. He indwells true believers permanently (John 14:16; Romans 8:13) and seeing to it that God's will is obeyed progressively, the process of sanctification (1 Thessalonians 4:3 in sync with John 17:17, "Sanctify them with your truth, Your word is truth," Christ's prayer to the Father. JOY!

[@eastofvenetian]

What is the definition of "good works"?

[@bobbob-sv4mk]

Music in the beginning?

[@mj6493]

"...you're gonna hear a lot..." Nope. Actually the media mostly ignored the 500th anniversary of the Reformation. Maybe not in Germany though.

[@Cuinn837]

Most people just don't seem to be religious anymore. The media thus did not regard it as anything important to talk about. Not a moneymaker.

[@edwardo737]

Pope Francis predictably paid homage

[@JeanmarieRod]

Yes, you heard nothing from the media pretty much, except the usual lies and pornography they distribute

[@soniavadnjal7553]

Fascinating and illuminating. Even as a Catholic I had no idea, no knowledge, of the Spanish reform initiatives in the preceding century (before Luther). Why don't Catholic educators (including priests) talk about this. Is it because they don't know? Aren't sufficiently educated in Catholic history themselves?

[@jlouis4407]

Yes.

[@kathleencook3060]

I learnt about it at school. I was a senior and we had a very scholarly teacher.

[@glennlanham6309]

ha ha how many Catholics do you know fully informed in their Faith?

[@kathleencook3060]

@@glennlanham6309 Faith is personal!

[@glennlanham6309]

@@kathleencook3060 if we don't live our faith in public, they will soon take even that away

[@johnchung6777]

Excellent excellent presentation 🐑🕊🌈✨

[@northpawmusic]

Yoooooo I’m in inquiry a little late but waiting until September! Lent was a mutha fucka and everything has been crazy since then :) I have no idea what I’m doing

[@glendamcgee1779]

Fascinating, I was born into a Protestant home- now I am reading the works of Orthodox Christians who do not claim that the Pope is infallible. This lecture is so rich and clearly delivered - thank you.

[@roaringforties]

The Pope only infallible when he speaks "ex cathedra". This has only happened once in the history of the Church. Check out Trent Horn on this.

[@davido3026]

The Pope is infallible!!!2022

[@glendamcgee1779]

@@davido3026 I did not mean to offend

[@glendamcgee1779]

@@roaringforties I don't understand but I will look it up, thank you.

[@roaringforties]

@@glendamcgee1779 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fairaaOBaLeefJI He covers papal infallibility in the middle of the video.

[@marci230]

Ave, María, grátia plena, Dóminus tecum. Benedicta tu in muliéribus, et benedíctus fructus ventris tui, Iesus. Sancta María, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.

[@glassychap1141]

I just watched this and it was a great lecture! I come from a mainly Protestant background but I must the Catholic Church does seem more and more logical than Protestantism. I do however have just a few questions in regards to the lecture. You do mention how the Church was caught off guard by Luther in his challenge of assumed practices. But what do you mean specifically by assumed practices? And also would the church even need to answer these objections with a Biblical basis? Forgive me if I am wrong but too my knowledge isn’t sacred tradition not based in scripture but instead based on early church practices that the Bible does not mention? Also you mention how a lot of church leaders and such did not know how to read or write. I am well aware that illiteracy was a common thing for most of history. But if this be the case how would the church leaders know if they were doing God’s will in leading his flock for most of the church history? This also leads me to my last question : wouldn’t the lack of education and literacy make upholding the faith much harder? I do believe that the Catholic Church was founded by our lord Jesus, but my question is how was it maintained for most of the early church period all the way to Constantine? I hope you answer soon! ;)

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

I used to think Catholicism made more sense than Protestantism because Catholicism claims to go way back and Protestantism is new! But now I have eyes to see. Catholicism had strange and new doctrines, not the faith once given to the saints. Protestantism had to protest, because Catholicism had gone that far off the rails! Time to get back to scripture. The bible is really simple. It is possible to read it and understand words, especially in your native language! Read the bible and you will see the truth!

[@glassychap1141]

@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr I completely agree in that the Bible is the word of God. However, the doctrine of sola scriptura does seem questionable because there had to be a consensus on what the Bible was. And it was the Catholic Church in the council of Nicaea that compiled the Bible.

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

@@glassychap1141 The bible says you will know him by his voice. If we're truly born again, maybe we can learn his voice from the old testament scriptures, and know which books are from him in the new testament. Just a thought.

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

@@glassychap1141 Also, isn't that a myth that it was the council of Nicea that decided the canon? First, it's way more complicated than that, with numerous canons, even ones where some books like Revelation are left out, and it wasn't Nicea I don't think.

[@glassychap1141]

@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr I have to research a bit more into that matter, but i still stand by my point that the only way that the doctrine of Sola Scriptura can work is if there is a consensus on what scripture is. What is fascinating is that Martin Luther himself actually took out 7 books from the Bible because he thought them questionable. The problem with this is that he was acting on his own authority and decided what is or what is not canon. Another thing to note is that the Bible did not even exist at the time of Jesus. He did not say he was going to leave a book for the world but rather a church.

[@theshivers1967]

I would love to be a part of your Institute. Unfortunately for somebody, I am a "Lutheran" (better, a Catholic of the Augsburg Confession). Is that even possible?

[@nicoleyoshihara4011]

I am interested in learning about the history of this especially of the Catholic Church ❤💕

[@DarkAngel-cj6sx]

Did Luther read James where he said that faith without works is useless? How does it even make sense that you only believe and your faith doesn't manifest into actions? Satan believes in God too but choose to do the wrong actions

[@samuelwilliams1559]

Luther was not found of James. Very good point. Those who walk in love will do good.

[@samuelwilliams1559]

@po18guy Luther didn't eviscerate the New Testament. That would be the RCC denying the words of GOD.

[@evangelion1962]

​@@samuelwilliams1559luther rejected James bc it contradicts his heresy. He added alone to the scripture to force it to his will and told his followers to justify by saying luther says so. He was full of pride and rebellion.

[@samuelwilliams1559]

@@evangelion1962 First Luther never rejected James. He just didn't like it. But he did not teach living in sin was okay. He taught against sin and upheld the Ten Commandments. He made mistakes but his main point is true. Works do not save us. Jesus told a parable on that topic. We get what we did not earn. Matthew 20:1-16 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive. So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first. And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny. And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee. Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

[@arthurdevain754]

I notice that Dr. Gray grants the title of "Saint" to John Paul II but he does no use it for Saint Charles Boromeo. I think it might be un-Christian for me to speculate as to why, so I won't.

[@albertkim7882]

Great exposition of Romans 5-8

[@tobiasmontoya9780]

It was penance not the idea of doing good works. It was because of his hypocrisy that he made up the doctrine of salvation by faith Alone. Martin Luther rejected good works because there was no other way to emphasize his doctrine of faith Alone. It was too problematic for Martin Luther to try and prove his doctrine of faith Alone by disputing the sacrament of confession so he used the tactic of denying good works instead . And by simply denying the fact that a priest can offer absolution.

[@maxer7595]

Galatians 5:6 Douay-Rheims version only

[@nathanoppy]

What does it say, I just ordered my copy of the rheims

[@DaMilkmanDelivers]

The content here is greatly ignored by those who are teachers in the Post-Vatican II Church, which ignores major heresies that are destroying the Faith. Thank you Dr. Gray for realizing that we need to be educated with accurate Church history to distinguish the True Faith from false Christianity and to reject theology that is rooted in the belief that other religions are in saving fellowship with the Catholic Church. We cannot evangelize others into Saving Faith if we can't tell what false theologies are undermining the Faith and how they have been presented to us deceptively through Protestantism and false ecumenism. Your teaching is giving us light and healing our Faith!

[@jlouis4407]

Protestants can be redeemed but they are unconnected from the true body of Christ, this is equivalent to going it alone. Paul says, “For we, being many, are one bread, one body, all that partake of one bread.” [1 Corinthians 10:17] Only those who partake of the Eucharist with the successors of the apostles are the body of Christ.

[@faithalone2171]

​ @B- Roger *It's amazing you don't even know Christianity teaches doing good works too?* - Salvation is Not by Works ( *by Faith Alone* ) - Eph 2:8-9 - Saved to do Good Works ( *Not By Faith Alone* ) - Eph 2:10, this is where James 2 comes in. you said It was not until I embraced Catholicism that I was finally able to reconcile good works with faith and understood the important role of works of love in our salvation.

[@mountainhealer]

This was such a fantastic lecture. Wish you had included the question and answer part of it as well. Nonetheless, it was great! Thank you!

[@barrettvonesch4681]

@15:14. This lecture is interesting because it ignores the entire debate between Luther and the “Romanists” prior to the break. It also is misleading as the concept of romanists is not unique to Luther, but has been around since the early church and the eastern break.

[@Mazinga]

I am very negatively surprised that an institute claiming to be Augustinian is criticizing Luther, who was an Augustinian through and through.

[@edwardo737]

Only so much can be covered in a one hour presentation. The point is that Luther took this antagonizing angle.

[@Fasolislithuan]

Luther rejected augustinian free will and grace doctrine. Luther betrayed Augustine

[@Mazinga]

@@Fasolislithuan Regarding free will so did Augustine. What do you exactly mean by grace doctrine?

[@Fasolislithuan]

@@Mazinga Luther twisted Augustine's concept of concupiscence. Augustine asserts that God by means of the grace in baptism forgives the sins (included original sin) but the concupiscence keeps in the soul. Concupiscence doesn't cease of exist but it's not imputed. Luther poisoned this truth replacing concupiscence by sin. The result of this distortion was the lutheran doctrine of "simul iustus et peccator" because in Luther's theology is not the concupiscence which is not imputed but the sin. So the sin is not imputed by God but doesn't cease to exist. In the Augustine's doctrine of the grace God actually changes inwardly the condition of the sinful person in a righteous one (God makes just). Luther denies the grace of God can change that condition, the sin keeps inwardly. God declares righteous the person but actually doesn't make anyone ontollogically just. Only a forensic declaration. Luther can speak a lot about Augustine but the fact is he betrayed Augustine theology of grace. That forensic fiction is a protestant innovation of 16th century. It's also an absurd idea, because if God declares someone righteous then he transforms to righteous that person because God's declarations are performatives like Gen 1:3 or Mc 4:35-41

[@artgarcia110]

Amen.... Thank you Viva Cristo Rey y La Virgen de Guadalupe... Lord have mercy on us. Attend the TLM of you can. You will not regret it.

[@TyroneBeiron]

It's quite funny that folks still say 'Luther nailed' his theses on the church door. In truth, he extensively distributed pamphlets to promote his views. Someone later pasted a copy of this on the church door. Of course, it's more poetic to say, 'Luther nailed' these on the door, which itself came from later woodcuts in other pamphlets promoting Protestantism across Europe.

[@paulustarsus]

I studied Luther a bit. I'm Roman Catholic and in my opinion, I can categorically state that my findings were highly in favour of Luther. He had some big Kahoonas to go up against the might of the RC Church at the time but, it wasn't the RC Church that was at fault. Like todays abhorrent paedophile priests, these are not acts of God. Christ never preached this. Incidences of Indulgences, paedophilia and other unholy shenannigans, are undoubtedly from Satan. The fear to confront, highlight and address these occurences are also from an unholy origin. There will always be attempts to bring down Godliness and goodness. I pray that you, the reader, would never be party to that. Keep Safe Brothers and Sisters and Keep the Faith. The worst to come is probably just around the corner. 🔥✝️

[@reesehendricksen269]

Luther considered himself Catholic for most of his life, especially after 1517. Only after he had multiple threats made on him by the church, and he succumbed to bitterness (as seen with his changed position on jews), did he truly break from the Church.

[@paulustarsus]

@@reesehendricksen269 I don't think so. The history of anti-semetic commonalities between the RC Church and Luther, had been imbeded too deeply, to readily discard. "You can't teach an old dog new tricks".

[@jlouis4407]

Kahoonas? Is that a technical term? You’re Roman Catholic? In what way?

[@paulustarsus]

@@jlouis4407 In a way that a word such as Kahoonas, wouldn't cause offence.

[@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr]

Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

[@AlexSmith-fs6ro]

Every Catholic should listen to this talk, to strengthen their faith and have a counter argument from Christian fundamentalists.

[@KarmaKraftttt]

Protestants are not "Christians" stop insulting that term.

[@AlexSmith-fs6ro]

@@KarmaKraftttt That's a long and distorted stretch from what I said.

[@KarmaKraftttt]

@@AlexSmith-fs6ro Doesn't matter, protestants are heretics and that's a fact whether anyone likes it or not

[@peterj6740]

@@KarmaKraftttt A Christian is one who follows Christ .That is the simplest explanation on who a christian is in Christ. Burning people at the stake because of a difference of opinion not accepted by Romanism is not following Christ .

[@KarmaKraftttt]

@@peterj6740 Protestants are not Christians simply because they don't follow Christ. Simply because they only believe in him lol even satan believes he is the son of God doesn't make him a Christian though. Protestants are not Christians simply because they don't even believe what the early Christian believed in the early church. Get some church history lessons. And about burning at the stake? Well heretics needs to be punished, it's just we had a "ALPHA" way to deal with heretics than "BETA"s like you.

[@MommaLousKitchen]

O wow, I was raised Lutheran and never knew what it really was. Well, my attendance ended abruptly with my grandma's death, but. Cool, so many questions.

[@Catholic1391]

After Martin Luther, so many confusion I go by bible along. Catholic vs Protestant. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpKbmoqwacR8bZI

[@forgivemylaughterihaveacon2556]

Brilliant

[@jlouis4407]

What is called the deuterocanonical books were still in the King James Bible until the 1800s when they finally took them out. The whole reason Luther objected to what is called the deuterocanonicals, is that he said that they were written in Greek in the Septuagint and they were never originally in Hebrew, and not used by the Jews in Israel. That was until we found deuterocanonical books in the Dead Sea Scrolls in the original Hebrew. Oops. The Council that approved the books of the Bible as well as Athanasius makes no difference between canonicals and “deuterocanonicals,” they are all canonical and to be in the Bible. We need a reevaluation of these books by Protestants, there is a famous prophecy of Jesus in Wisdom of Solomon Chapter 2, and Romans Chapter 1 by Paul mirrors Wisdom of Solomon Chapter 13. These books were in the scriptures used by the apostles.

[@carlosreira2189]

You have a valid point, though I doubt anyone but a specialist's accuracy on this difficult and confusing topic. Luther followed the example of Jerome, I believe, when he created his German text, separating the apocrypha/deuterocanonicals into a section between the testaments. He may have been influenced by the new humanist ("back to the sources") learning in this decision. We need to note that while the Councils tended to affirm canonicity of most of these books, the Orthodox East had their own standard and several debates are found in the early centuries. We might also note this amazing fact--while a Judaic Hebrew Bible was something no one doubted, at some point the texts were only known in the Greek, the LXX, and no extant ancient Hebrew manuscripts can be found of a whole corpus of what we Christians call the Old Testament. As far as I know there weren't even any fragments before the DSS were found. The diligence of the medieval Masoretic scribes who re-created what we know of the Hebrew scriptures is evidenced by MT Isaiah matching up perfectly with the DSS Isaiah. That a text was known in Hebrew seems to be the ancient standard for unquestionable canonicity, the others being known only in Greek translation. You are correct that King James kept them. But exactly why and when Protestant Bibles discarded them is not entirely clear to me. I believe the Revised Version of the KJV removed them, and later KJ Bibles followed suit. What exactly is found in the DSS is a matter of interest, but can't be definitive, because so much Gnostic material is also found. What constitutes the DSS (Qumran) vs the other Nag Hamadi texts, and what their dates really are is also problematic to anyone but a specialist, I think. At least it's not clear to me. Nag Hammadi was found first, but was from a later (AD only) period. Good job noting Paul's use of Wisdom literature (I thought Sirach/Ecclesiasticus) in Romans 1. I've noted the same thing, and never heard it said openly before. I imagine this is well known in Catholic circles (?)> But Paul says things that seem to have no obvious precursor in any Judaic literature. And of course, Paul claims as much: "I neither learned it, nor did any man teach me, but I received it by revelation..."

[@jlouis4407]

@@carlosreira2189 I had no idea about Romans Chapter 1 mirroring Wisdom Chapter 13, and only read about that recently I stumbled upon it somewhere, but they are very similar and it’s pretty obvious that one influenced the other. Apparently the motive for taking out the deuterocanonicals were to reduce the cost of printing the KJV. I also know that the Jews’ Council of Jamnia had to have influenced the decision at some point when they removed the apocrypha, which was because it was not originally in Hebrew as they thought. It’s funny to me that Judaism is basically a reaction against Christianity and is actually not as old u,timately as Christianity. I do know that the Book of Isaiah roughly corresponds to the Masoretic at most points, but there is some evidence of Jewish alterations to certain portions of the Masoretic by adding a pen strokes here and there. A copy of Psalm 22 was found near the caves of Qumran and the University of Chicago did a study comparing the Masoretic with this newly found manuscript and they concluded that the Masoretic had indeed been changed with additional pen strokes to render “they pierced my hands and my feet” to “they came upon my hands and feet like a lion” or something similar. There was always a rumor about them changing messianic passages, but this study and the manuscript seemed to confirm it. The title I believe is “masoretic emendation in messianic passages” I used to be able to find the entire study online I’m not sure if it is still available, though.

[@carlosreira2189]

@@jlouis4407 Thank you for that astute reply, brother. I really appreciate it. You've evidently done your research well. This idea that "Christianity canonizes the Judaic scripture" has been said by one of the foremost scholars in the field, a skeptic by the way, Dr. Francesca Stavrapoulou. So take that for what it is. I do think that there is clear evidence of God's hand in all of it, maintaining the Judaic scripture on the one side (underground as it were) but allowing Christianity to be the one solid rock, both doctrinally and textually. We have the New Testament, and all Christians agree on it, to a large extent. This itself is pretty amazing. That the Masoretes were tempted to render certain phrases in an anti-Messianic way is likely--"a maid shall give birth," where the LXX clearly said "virgin" (Gr. parthenos) for example, though one might question what good Jewish girl wasn't a virgin before marriage? Blessings of revelation and joy in Him to you and your household of faith. Again, good work on Romans 1. Paul's appeal to an us vs. "them" kind of dichotomy and a vague past in which mankind as a whole descended into abject sin and was "given over" by God to their passions might have been common rabbinical teaching in second temple Judaism, surrounded as they were by powerful, culturally advanced pagans, but the echoes of Wisdom are very strong. I think you're right and more work needs to be done in this area.

[@garymatthews1280]

That was a very interesting lecture that helped me to better understand the Catholic position. I guess my question would be if mankind was doing good works before Christ came, why did he have to die on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins and for our salvation? And if our salvation is based on the sacrifice of God’s son Jesus, what finally won our salvation? I know it His death on the cross. My works will never be enough to earn salvation. Martin Luther never taught that those that are saved should not continue to try to follow the law and serve mankind in Love. Don’t take the “sin boldly” quote out of context. What he said was that all sin was equal, that mankind would always need God’s forgiveness in Christ’s name because we could never fully follow the law, and that we would continually need to hear the gospel and actively partake in the sacraments of Baptism and the Eucharist for the forgiveness of our sins, throughout our lives.

[@ednewcomer]

Jesus said 'Come follow me'. Therefore shouldn't we imitate His life of action, prayer, love, and fidelity to God the Father? Does that take effort? You bet it does. In Matthew 5:48 Jesus commands us to be perfect (i.e. Holy) just like our Father in Heaven. Jesus setting the bar high and we need to ask God for the graces to live a holy life. Otherwise we disappoint Jesus.

[@peterj6740]

@@ednewcomer But also remember that the Just man falls 7 times a day and discouragement can set in if we don't believe in the forgiveness of sins .

[@tomrhodes1629]

Gary, I have the answers you seek. GOD's prophet, the prophesied return of Elijah, speaks: Very good lecture. The great error of Martin Luther was to remove LOVE from the equation. And this is why the Catholic Church was - and remains - closer to Truth. However, when GOD says "good news," GOD means GOOD NEWS! And almost no organized Christian Church (with one notable exception) has the true "Gospel" of Yeshua One with Christ ("Jesus Christ"). That's why I was sent. But as Revelation Chapter Eleven indicates, I am to be mostly rejected, just as GOD's prophets (and Jesus Christ) have always been rejected. Because, everyone already "knows" everything. "Unless ye become as little children" and are fearless enough to admit that you don't really know, GOD cannot instruct you and "you will not enter into the Kingdom of GOD." "But be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world." And, "GOD our Savior will have all men to be saved and come unto knowledge of the truth." Want to know more? Click and ye shall find.

[@garystanfield2274]

Jesus Christ are two sun deity names. Immanuel was the birth given name and never had anything to do with salvation. The Messiah's name is Yahweh. He inherited the name above all names the Father's name Yahweh and makes Immanuel becoming Yahweh Messiah, the Father in the Flesh. Immanuel died ion a real live Olive Tree with the other 2 on the same tree. They did not die on a Cross a sun symbol.and rope was used not nails.

[@garymatthews1280]

@@garystanfield2274 My friend, unless you can confess The Nicene Creed, I think you’re missing the point. I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only‐begotten Son of God, begotten of His Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made; who for us and for our salvation, came down from heaven and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate. He suffered and was buried. And the third day He rose again according to the Scriptures and ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father. And He will come again with glory to judge both the living and the dead, whose kingdom will have no end. And I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, who spoke by the prophets. And I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins, and I look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.

[@faithalone2171]

​ @B- Roger *Still dodging? Where in the Bible teaches m m doctrine of R ct: "faith + Roman sacraments + submit to Roman pope + devote to Mary + good works = to be saved"?*

[@Frst2nxt]

Has anyone done a study on the history of islamic occupation of Spain as it relates to biblical illiteracy?

[@MichaelSmith-ym2rz]

Why is it always assumed that Luther had a problem with scrupulosity and not that he was actually committing serious sin? He said that he was going to confession several times daily. He despised celibacy and said it was impossible for all but a few. He was lustful and impulsive. I believe that he struggled with chastity (masturbation) and that Protestantism , particularly sola fide, was his personal alternative to true self reform. After destroying the notion of any authority outside of himself he was able to marry and have what he desired but gave up when he took his vows. SEX!

[@randyjones3050]

Yes, it is hard to imagine that Luther would have had such internal turmoil if he did not have some secret sin that he was personally struggling with. It kind of reminds me of that irreverant Monty Python skit called the "Adventures of Martin Luther" where they portrayed Luther as lecherous man in the pursuit of women. It is a bit over the top but it may have been more on point than it first seems.

[@eileens4943]

I had read that he actually was in love with a nun, and that was a motivating factor as well. Has anyone else heard about this?

[@randyjones3050]

@@eileens4943 He married a former nun named Katharina Von Bora whom he assisted in escaping from her convent after she decided to become a Protestant. The story is she and several other nuns became followers of Luther's movement while in the convent and contacted Luther directly for assistance. Luther arranged for them to be smuggled out in some empty Herring barrels. Luther then found husbands for all of the nuns except Von Bora. She refused all of her suitors and wanted to marry Luther himself. It may have been a case of hero worship but it worked. Luther eventually married her. As to whether Luther was in love with a woman while a Monk, I am unaware. I have never read that before, but it is not impossible.

[@michaelciccone2194]

How do you come up with the thought that Luther had celibacy problems? He went through Augustinian seminary and rigorous training. To commit mortal sins...Luther wouldn't do such things.

[@tomrhodes1629]

Fear-based GUILT is the prison that is called "hell." GOD's prophet, the prophesied return of Elijah, speaks: Very good lecture. The great error of Martin Luther was to remove LOVE from the equation. And this is why the Catholic Church was - and remains - closer to Truth. However, when GOD says "good news," GOD means GOOD NEWS! And almost no organized Christian Church (with one notable exception) has the true "Gospel" of Yeshua One with Christ ("Jesus Christ"). That's why I was sent. But as Revelation Chapter Eleven indicates, I am to be mostly rejected, just as GOD's prophets (and Jesus Christ) have always been rejected. Because, everyone already "knows" everything. "Unless ye become as little children" and are fearless enough to admit that you don't really know, GOD cannot instruct you and "you will not enter into the Kingdom of GOD." "But be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world." And, "GOD our Savior will have all men to be saved and come unto knowledge of the truth." Want to know more? Click and ye shall find.

[@maryvictor1739]

*TRUE AND POWERFUL CONVERSION STORY PLUS GREAT MIRACLES! March, 2022 Thank GOD for our LADY of GUADALUPE; when I visited her Shrine in Mexico in Dec. 2012, and I was suffering at the time of "Sleep Apenea" I was healed really while still there - FRARNKLY, my first intensions were to honor her. †Also, when I prayed few Rosaries to help me to quit smoking cigaretes on May 17, 1998, she answered my prayers immediately, though I was SUPER skeptical at that time, (prv 3: 5) †Truely, when I was inspired to recite one single Rosary in December 12, 2000, I was healed from my unbelief (Jn. 14: 1) - and I tried at the time first to pray OUR FATHER, but I couldn't remember the prayer; but GOD still saved me! Also During my first Rosary procession outdoors in May 13, 2001, I saw Queen of the Holy Rosary walking with us for 4-5 seconds; And she had long, dark, blue dress & absolutely attractive one. †Since my conversion, I try NOT to miss attending Masses weekly or daily etc. And I pray the Devine Mercy Chaplet at 3:00pm, and I NEVER miss it. †UNDOUBTLY, Reading & meditating on "Gospel of life" according to the daily readings is like my "daily bread" And I read the Bible from cover to cover 3 times since my conversion! & I read the CCC as well, (Is. 55: 10 -11). Also, I like to what some one says: every winter turns into spring. But "The fool says in his heart, "There is no God" (Ps.14:1) †Unfortunately, many "Catholics don't know what they have, and Evangelicals don't know what they are missing!" †And I used to attend few different Evangelical Churches for a few years searching for TRUTH while residing in Stockholm & they opened my eyes a LITTLE bid to the facts of faith at the time. † God is still in the miracle buisness. And thank God for the ROSARY prayer, etc.(Ps. 107:13- 14 †"This is the day which GOD hath made a day for us to REJOICE & be GLAD" - Ps.118: 2 †By Saba Korial, & I was born in Middle East, now Canadian & Christian CATHOLIC & part of 1.360 Million world wide Catholics. (2 Tm 2:4 & 4:7). Note that the Name of God is mentioned 3 times while praying the ROSARY as follow: first the LORD, then Jesus & GOD (RV 3:10). † "Brothers & sisters pray for me that I may NOT flee for fear of wolves (TERRORISTES)." †"A believer sees more on his knees than a philosopher sees on his tiptoes" D.L. Moody **Copy & google the following: 1.kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnjMgqt7i6hrpas 2.WoW:kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZKvkoSnqKiKjNU 3. former pastor of the largest Church now Catholic! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpLPc6eBotuinbc 4.Don't miss: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3auenyfnrZ0q8k 5.kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJiaeouKpJV_hqs *"IT'S BETTER TO KNOW SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAN ALL OF THE ANSWERS" -James Thundber *NEW BOOK by Steve Weidenkopf: " Light from Darkness: Nine Times the Catholic Church Was in Turmoil-and Came Out Stronger Than before" * FORMER EVANGELICAL PROFESSOR: "Weak Catholics Become Protestants Strong Protestants..."

[@HarveyHomeSchoolMomma]

Back then there was a big problem of the Church being so closely aligned with monarchies that the Church was unstoppable whether the Pope was corrupt or not. Can we discuss the long list of Popes who fathered illegitimate children, and had multiple mistresses..? Along with the indulgences business.

[@simplydanny]

Long list? Define long because I’ve only found less than 10.

[@HarveyHomeSchoolMomma]

@@simplydanny A simple Google search will yield a list... and what a list (more than ten by the way... this is just the sexually active ones with men, women, or both): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexually_active_popes

[@mauixram2007]

@@HarveyHomeSchoolMomma Even if it's 20 or more Judases out of hundreds, the Church will go on and can never be overwhelmed.

[@HarveyHomeSchoolMomma]

@@mauixram2007 imagine yourself back there, following a Pope who was widely known for any of these things. Who had people pay so their loved ones wouldn't go to Hell. I'm just saying, we cannot be so fast in judging people like Martin Luther; he attempted to reform the Church but was kicked out instead because he would not shut up about his complaints regarding the Church.

[@simplydanny]

@@HarveyHomeSchoolMomma same list I looked at, if you count, is less than ten that had illegitimate children, look at the categories carefully

[@Richardcontramundum]

does it ever make you wonder how a theologian can be revered by both Roman Catholics and Protestants alike? What and how did Augustine teach?

[@markskillin678]

Very good, thank you. I am not a Catholic, I am a Protestant in the reformed trajectory, yet appreciate the unbiblical nature of sola fide. However, I appreciate Luther for sola scriptura and ironically it is through Scripture that I came to believe sola fida to be deeply wrong. Platonism (dualism)held Luther captive, but was a Platonism he inherited from the church. Let's keep reforming, the only way forward.

[@bridgefin]

If I may, Sola Scriptura makes no sense to me. As soon as I set the clock back to first century Palestine I have a problem. When Jesus speaks to the crowds, is he authoritative as they listen to his words, or only later when someone writes those words into Scripture? I can't see it both ways. One is Scripture and the other is oral tradition. How would you reply to this?

[@markskillin678]

@@bridgefin Of course, everything Jesus said was authoritative, but the Holy Spirit is the ultimate editor who distilled everything Jesus said and did to a canonical text for the life of God's people. Notice John states at the end of his Gospel that Jesus did much more than what they recorded, but what they recorded was for those who follow that we might believe and have life through faith in Jesus. So what is recorded is sufficient.

[@bridgefin]

@@markskillin678 See what I mean. If Jesus was authoritative when he spoke, then you just agreed that NOT ONLY Scripture is authoritative for the Christian. So is Jesus.

[@diplomaticexorcist6130]

Martin Luther, an Augustinian, read much of Saint Augustine of Hippo's works on what he viewed as sin, the body, and whether certain souls would only be in Heaven. The Church omitted these writings as a Canon of approved works as Saint Augustine carried his influences of Manicheaism. A Penitent, still carrying the scars of past sins. One being a heresy. It happens. Saint Augustine wasn't declared a Saint during his life. It was only after. Martin Luther read the effects of sin in a Penitent's life (that being Saint Augustine.) Martin Luther did not rely so much on the Sacraments, but his terrible Theology. John Calvin also delved into a pessimistic Theology of predestination. Here on earth, we're not Saints, until discovered afterwards. Trying to delve on the reality of who is going to Hell, and who ends up in Heaven is a waste of time. The lazy servant dwelled on a pessimistic view of his trade. And buried his talent. Because, he didn't think it really mattered. The master was hard and unforgiving in the lazy servants eyes. Notice in the parable, the lazy servant didn't even plea for mercy. Because it didn't matter until he was kicked out. This is fitting to the Age of Enlightenment, and Protestantism fell for it. Protestantism for its' names sake means to protest. And in Europe, the U.S., and the U.K. these evolved into revolutions. It is the world of anarchy as much as the Pilgrim's rebellion. This is when man wants to become a species observed later by Darwin, and the hopeless case of humanity as Carl Marx posited. Selfish. Martin Luther fell into himself, and his self attachments prevailed. Rather than live as a Penitent, and possibly had been Beatified and Canonized, he instead turned to his own intellect and will compromising his salvation in the Church, and in the Sacraments. A king with a lustful desire of a Throne, a lawyer for the shallow legal terrain to determine and read Scripture, and a priest gone mad, you have Protestantism. Remedy: Penance Cure: the Sacraments. Recovery and Condition: Full Communion with the Church under the Roman Rite and Penalty of death which Christ suffered His Own body and precious blood for souls. Without that, everything is partial and incomplete. Penance!

[@jlouis4407]

He apparently did not read Augustine’s commentary on Romans. It completely denies his theology.

[@jakeschwartz2514]

It’s inevitable that God is the only one who see’s the heart and mind, and that we are saved by God alone. Meaning that the Catholic Church doesn’t hold the keys to salvation, but God does. So… how can Catholics remain so arrogant about its status that salvation only belongs within its walls? Hasn’t that been completely debunked by the fact that people of all ethnicities and nations will walk with the Lamb?

[@diplomaticexorcist6130]

@@jakeschwartz2514 Question: Is there Salvation outside of Christ? In general and of no particular specific Christian belief.

[@jakeschwartz2514]

@@diplomaticexorcist6130 what do you mean of no particular Christian belief? The most fundamental belief is that Jesus rose from the dead and belief in what God has accomplished for salvation. So… what does that have to do with any particular denomination? Of course, beliefs about Jesus from the Mormons and Muslims are incorrect although they share certain similarities, they are clearly wrong on the whole. So no salvation cannot be found outside Christ.

[@diplomaticexorcist6130]

@@jakeschwartz2514 How did Christ posit and deposit Salvation in the manner He placed?

[@Javiersr78]

I love when he says Luther tries to be pope and interpret what is biblical and what is not..Luther rejects the magisterium,we need to be instructed in all matters as humans we all have different opinions but our Lord Jesus left us the apostles and made one the leader by handing him the keys to the kingdom of heaven on earth,Peter....so we need to ask the Holy Spirit to guide us to the truth..which is His church, people as humans will fail but the Holy Spirit will not we have to have faith ..in what Christ entrusted to the apostles :make disciples of all nations....

[@carlosreira2189]

That's not really true about rejecting the magisterium. Luther's initial complaints cited the Church fathers and the Councils ad nauseam, but to no avail. It wasn't really "the magisterium" that he was up against (or maybe it was if this word is viewed flexibly enough) but the political and traditional climate of the late Scholastic Church and newly empowered Renaissance papacy (recall well the problems of popes and anti-popes of the previous two centuries). That Luther maintained so many of the Church's traditions makes such a statement weak as an argument, if not wrong. Finally, we need to note that what we today understand of the "magisterium" to a significant degree comes from Trent, not to mention the clearly anti-Protestant Vatican I, which occurred after Luther.

[@chase6579]

The sad thing is that we could today have a saint Luther if not for his overwhelming pride and disobedience.

[@carlosreira2189]

@@chase6579 That is a very wise thing to say, brother MM. Thank you.

[@neetard7360]

The fact that it's scriptural that there will always be crappy members of the church is both sobering & comforting Makes faith in the church a lot easier for my weary heart, ya know?

[@neetard7360]

@po18guy that's a very good way to put it as well. Honestly one on of the most perfect small scale examples of the verse that says that in the end the wheat shall be separated from the tares. God bless man!

[@faithalone2171]

@B- Roger *Too bad. Bible says you are wrong. Two third of NT says SAlvation is Not by WOrks. Here you are saying otherwise. Are you sure R Catholic are even believers?* you said What a brilliant lecture! As a protestant I always struggled with this because the word 'works' in protestantism is always taken in a negative way as in something being added to the sacrifice of Christ. Protestants are brainwashed so badly by this unbiblical teaching that they don't even like to mention the word 'works' because if they do, they are labeled as heretics preaching the so-called works based salvation. It was not until I embraced Catholicism that I was finally able to reconcile good works with faith and understood the important role of works of love in our salvation.