Was MCU Phase 4 a Success or a Failure?

[@RiIyte]

I can't believe i sit down in my spare time and watch someone just talk about marvel for hours and hours upon end and look forward to every video they put out. Great work you put into this, you deserve way more subs and views than you get.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Too funny! Yes, I think fans like us enjoy the MCU enough that we are willing to talk about it and listen to videos about it as a way to pass the time. I'm honored you're willing to fill that spare time with this channel and I hope to keep it entertaining. These things really interest me and so I try to reflect that in the videos. Really appreciate you not only watching but taking the time to share your feedback. Thanks so much!

[@Reda_tbb]

First! Nah just kidding but I think the reason that people don't like phase 4 is that to be fair, it definitely was a downgrade from Endgame and Infinity war and with all the new movies and characters that were introduced, it wasn't really the same feeling as phase 2 and 3. So that might be a reason but personally I liked how phase 4 was really more like a building-up phase and I like to see where it's going in the future.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Excellent commentary. Yes, I touch on those very things you mention as I agree they were important factors in how people perceived Phase 4 on the whole.

[@johnman8398]

Sure it was a downgrade from endgame and infinity war but it was always going they aren't the benchmark for all MCU films nor should they be, those were the climax of of a whole saga it makes no sense to expect that level of quality from all films. It just seems like misplaced expectations that people had on a phase that was never going to be that.

[@decidueye2963]

@@AbitofEverything4U Phase 4 making of instalments actually is half baked and it was particularly due to releasing 8-9 projects/ year and also not giving enough maturity for the quality of storyline like with Moon Knight. TV Shows quality is what hurted Phase 4 more . Only Specials became the balanced ones unlike movies and tv shows.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@johnman8398 Agreed. I think that Phase 4 did what it had to do and that while it was impossible to live up to IW / Endgame, it did a great job of building up new storylines, new characters and new plot threads for Phases 5 - 6.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@decidueye2963 Right, the one thing that really stood out to me with the RT scores is that Phase 4 suffered the most due to the quality of the D+ shows. Not that there weren't some great ones, but overall the quality was lower and was shaky and they might have been saved by specials and some of the best shows like Loki. I suspect that in Phase 5 that D+ will get the most changes coming and we will see a definite improvement in overall quality.

[@TheKendeHD]

Monsters, werewolves, vampires, vampire-vampire slayers, magic swords, magic bands, magic rings, london heroes, young heroes, multiversal heroes, etc. I would say this phase was really focusing on building that comic feel to the mcu so that way Secret Wars and Kang Dynasty hits hard

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes, very well said. I completely agree. I loved that Phase 4 was willing to be so experimental and bring us so many different genres and styles. And I also agree that Phase 4 did alot of heavy lifting of setting up storylines that will then be paid off in Phases 5 and 6. Can't wait to see where things go from here. Thanks so much for watching and adding your comments. I really appreciate it!

[@TheKendeHD]

@@AbitofEverything4U Thanks keep dropping vids!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@TheKendeHD Will do!

[@samrameker2753]

I think something that you missed is the varying types of genres and stories they covered because I felt that they had more diversity in their product allowing directors to have greater control on certain projects and provide somewhat fresh ideas and styles. It wasn’t perfect but I felt it split from the standard template.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Excellent point. Yes, that's something that both helped and hurt Phase 4, depending on the individual outcome. But overall, I think it was a positive to let directors bring in their own flair and see how it lands with fans. Gave us a ton of unique content that we've never seen before. Again, great point. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

I thought Phase 4 was MCU at its most formulaic. Yes, it introduced cool new concepts but squandered them too with tropey and cliche writing.

[@samrameker2753]

@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom I see that when you talk about the story especially with the shows, but I was thinking more about the style of many projects, bringing in different genres and trying to appeal to more groups.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom I can definitely understand that perspective. The writing was a big issue on many of the Phase 4 entries. But I still enjoyed seeing the MCU stretch out in to so many new genres and storylines. I give the MCU credit for trying something new. Sometimes it worked great and other times less so. But overall, I enjoyed it.

[@johnman8398]

I will say this outright phase 4 is not a failure, I don't think it's a success either but looking at it as a whole and comparing it to prior phases I think it's solid overall. EDIT: This is before watching the video to clarify.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes, I think you summarized it well. I do personally think it is a success overall, but I agree, it's not the level of success of Phase 3, for example.

[@Andreinic97]

i'd say that for me phase 4 was a solid success, it had its missed here and there but so did the previous phases and in the end i think it succeded in what it set out to do: introduce new charaters, continue along the story of the remaining characters, and setting up the multiverse saga with Kang as the final boss. So yea, really enjoyed phase 4 and now im looking foward to phase 5 and beyond.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Well said. Phase 4 was very solid on the whole and I think as time goes on we will look back on it even more fondly as we see all the set up it did for Phases 5 and 6. Phase 4 did a ton of heavy lifting so that Phases 5 and 6 can be running on all cylinders. Thanks for watching and for the great comments as always!

[@Andreinic97]

@@AbitofEverything4U how can i not watch when you make such great and entertaining content, its people like you that make me glad to be a part of this fandom. All i can say is: keep up the good work!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Thanks so much. That means alot to me!

[@kolportiroas-red983]

No matter how great or bad phase 4 is. I will always love No Way Home.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Amen. Was a dream come true for any long-time Spider-man fan. 20 years of content all coming together in one amazing movie!

[@EnderBuilder]

For me, the phase was less successful 'cause it's not about one story anymore, now there's various stories being told and people don't feel like it's necessary to watch every movie. - Magic stuff with Wanda and the series. - Government stuff with Power Broker. - Multiverse stuff with Strange. - Street stuff with Spider-Man and Daredevil. - Kang stuff with Loki. - Series with it's own buildups. It's all over the place now.

[@EnderBuilder]

Everything has it's own buildups leading to their own big event, it's not like it leads to an Endgame... I mean, it wasn't that way before, now it was announced that it will lead into Kang Dynasty, but now it's a bit too late and the movies didn't feel like it that much.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes, I definitely agree that the point you bring up was a huge issue for many fans. Phase 4 was a set-up phase for phases 5 and 6 and that caused it to feel directionless at times. I think that once we start to see the payoff in phases 5 and 6 for all of the setup that was done in phase 4, then fans will look back at phase 4 with more appreciation for all it accomplished. But right now I suspect many fans didn't like it for the reasons you explain so well. Thanks much for watching and sharing your feedback and feelings. I really do appreciate it!

[@Surfboarder4]

I do think people will look back more fondly on Phase 4. I hope when people stop being influenced by lots of online hate surrounding Eternals, Love and Thunder, MoM, they can appreciate them themselves.

[@OnlyOneTubing]

The online hate is mainly for the gain of making money on youtube or getting high hits on twitter, I personally ignore all that stuff an make up my own mind when I watch everything.

[@OnlyOneTubing]

@@quardd-dz yes, but that doesn't mean they are bad.

[@dontcallmedirtypercy4147]

I think MoM gets overhated, but the other two I agree were bad.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@OnlyOneTubing I agree, I think too often channels focus on the negative to get clicks and views and the more nasty they get the more attention the channel gets. It's a shame. I guess I don't want alot of subs if the only way to get them is to be toxic.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@quardd-dz I agree with you that some of the Phase 4 movies are not great and the silly humor in L&T really bugged me. But I also agree with @OnlyOneTubing that some of the channels just seek attention by being toxic. It therefore makes it harder to really gauge the public opinion because of the frenzy created by the negative channels with alot of subs.

[@AJ-we8fl]

It’s hard to see the bigger picture while we’re still in it. For as good as iron man was- Phase 1 and expectations for marvels future only became hugely popular after the release of Avengers. People weren’t over analyzing thor or iron man 2 because there wasn’t any promise for the future. I think once main storylines get rolling in this saga, phase four will be looked at as a great start to some awesome arcs to come.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Perfectly stated! That's exactly how I feel. Phase 4 will be looked at more fondly down the road as people see all of the work it did to lay the tracks for new storylines and introduce new characters and how that ended up helping Phase 5 to be really fantastic. I think you nailed it!

[@josinfleurs]

“They’re just saying what they’re told, and in this case weren’t told anything” I don’t know whether to laugh or cry 😂😂😂

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Indeed. It just hurts my head and then I just have to laugh.

[@kapitankapital6580]

I think the biggest impact of phase 4 will undoubtedly be the introduction of Disney Plus as a medium. In that regard I think there have been mixed results; while Disney Plus has a huge number of subscribers and doesn't seem to be slowing down, it still isn't profitable and the big budget original series are likely a big part of that. I think the shift to specials is the best compromise from that perspective; being a sort of lite-movie can mean lower budgets and thus lower risk, without having to force those things that shouldn't have been series into that formula. I also think perhaps if they want to further monetise Disney Plus to try to help it turn a profit then having a theatre pass version at a higher price that cuts down the time between theatrical release and streaming release from the customary 40 days to say, two weeks would be a good way to do that which consumers would generally accept. It is interesting that the bombs in phase 4 have had a disproportionate amount of media and public attention compared to the other 3 phases. There weren't people saying that the MCU is dead after The Dark World came out, but it was a huge talking point following Love and Thunder. I think partly that's down to the good films of this phase not really generating much cultural impact (apart from Spiderman), but more fundamentally I think it's the point you made about a lack of clear structural direction in the phase as a whole. Captain Marvel didn't feel like a franchise ending film because we knew there was a much bigger plot going on. Now when something doesn't land there isn't that same sense of assurance that "oh this was just a speedbump", and I think that's a big part of why the low points in phase four feel so much worse than their equivalents in 1-3.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Wow! Excellent commentary. You really hit the nail on the head by pointing out the extra focus this phase has had on the lower points (such as Love & Thunder) and how that combines with the feeling that there isn't an overall storyline and thus a low point hits harder than it did in earlier phases (ala Dark World or Captain Marvel). Very good point! Also, I like your suggestions for D+. It's a fantastic offering and has done really well, but they need to look at ways to make it profitable but also keep fan interest so that subscribers don't start to peal off. Your ideas are great and I suspect Disney is considering them for 2023 and beyond. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts. Again, fantastic commentary!

[@sageturmelle]

I’d say so even without the usual Stan Lee cameo many of us were used to seeing before Marvel decided to officially retire them. If he was still around though, I thought of what his potential cameos throughout the Phase 4 films would have been: Black Widow - Prison Guard Shang-Chi and The Legend of the Ten Rings - Macau Fight Club Patron Watching the Cage Match Between Wong and Abomination Eternals - Bartender at the Pub Sersi and Sprite Went To Spider-Man: No Way Home - Man Visiting Peter and Happy Hogan at Aunt May’s Grave Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness - Wedding Guest at Christine Palmer’s Wedding Thor Love and Thunder - New Asgard Passerby Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - Riri’s College Professor Unfortunately however, he’s no longer with us and we have to learn accept that. These cameo concepts aren’t official anyways and just some that I came up with on the spot.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Oh wow...I absolutely loved these ideas. I'll be honest, the No Way Home one almost brought tears to my eyes. Very well done. Thanks so much for sharing these awesome cameo ideas!

[@NimN0ms]

This was a very nice comparison and THOROUGH discussion. I am an epidemiologist, so I love the quantitative analytical approach you took. I love the real life events you brought up to try and discuss why the ratings and quality of the properties might be affected. I agree that for phase 4, the biggest limitation was the disconntected story telling which was not that common for phase 1-3. However, phase 4 did have some really great properties (NWH, BP2, Shang-Chi, What-if, Loki, WandaVision, GotG special). Personally, I was hard on phase 4 because it wasn't as linear as the other phases, but now when I reflect on the entire phase, after it has ended and after watching your video, I think I may have been harsh. I do think phase 4 was successful as much as any other phase, given the real life challenged that Marvel came across (mainly the pandemic).

[@AbitofEverything4U]

First of all, how cool that you are an epidemiologist. Thanks for all the work you do in that arena. Very important stuff. And yes, I definitely agree with your comments. I think that Phase 4 was harder to follow due to the disconnected storylines. Granted, some main themes existed regarding grief, loss, pain and moving forward from it. But from an overarching storyline standpoint, things felt disconnected. I do suspect that in time we will look back on Phase 4 even more fondly, as we see the payoff that we get in Phases 5 and 6 due to all the heavy lifting in Phase 4 to set it all up. Thanks so much for your feedback and insight. Always enjoy reading it!

[@dracomaster4]

I think Phase 4 was a success. Sure there were many stumbling blocks, but I also feel like we didn't appreciate phase 2 completely until we saw where it lead with Phase 3, so the same thing could happen here. As others have stated, there was a ton of content, so of course it's going to look like a mess, but the best thing about Marvel is how they weave things together, so I think right now we're too close to the material to really step back and appreciate all we have going for us right now.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Very well said! I think you summarized it perfectly. I really feel people will come to have a different view of Phase 4 once they see how it did the heavy lifting to build up the storylines for Phase 5 and beyond. Great feedback!

[@NickK-v6e]

That segment where you highlighted the timeline issue where the creative teams don't even know where their show takes place. I think they perfectly encapsulate the problem with phase 4. The left hand didn't seem like it knew what the right hand was doing. You have all these projects going on. No one is communicating with each other. And you end up with things like the TVA and a celestial sticking out of the ocean being complete afterthoughts. The timeline being a mess is one thing. But I think the fact that we have multiple creatives coming out and saying they don't really know what's going on in this franchise. Is a problem

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yep. I totally agree 100%. I am unsure how things can have gotten so chaotic. Granted, the pandemic really messed things up, but still, how can there not be more communication. Supposedly the mysterious timeline keeper Marvel hired is supposed to be doing that. It would take such a small amount of effort to be in charge of running between projects and being the "middle man" that keeps everything in line. Hopefully they address this in Phase 5! Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!

[@julianortiz5712]

That audience score for Phase 4 was... genuinely unexpected. The opinions I've heard simply don't line up with how RT's audience score presents itself, really bizarre

[@AbitofEverything4U]

IKR? That was so strange. I wonder if some of the initial negative reactions were what we heard the most vocally, but that as time passed and more people watched the movies and shows, then the scores slowly went up. It was also interesting to see how the audience seemed to like the movies so much more than the critics and the reverse being the case for D+. Really surprised me.

[@dracomaster4]

@@AbitofEverything4U I think the biggest thing is, at least from what I've seen, is if a small percentage of fans hate a specific project, their opinion is sensationalized, which skews what we hear vs what thoughts actually are.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@dracomaster4 Yes, I think you nailed it. That is indeed what very often happens and is likely the biggest reason for Phase 4 getting a bad rap.

[@ThatSpeedrunnerGuy]

No joke, on rewatch of M.O.M I timed from when Mordo says “the illuminati will see you now” and when the illuminati get killed by Wanda and it was like 12-13 minutes.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

LOL. Yeah, it was a quick entrance and a quicker exit. Even if it wasn't what I expected to happen, I loved it. Pure Raimi through and through!

[@mike_scatt8730]

I completely agree with everything you said in this video. It was definitely a success in my opinion. People don’t like this phase because they don’t like how they did it, because it was different and unique.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Right! It was an experimental phase and it was a rebuilding phase, but neither of those things make it bad. It just wasn't what some fans expected or were used to. I suspect Phase 7 could end up being the same way in some regards, as Secret Wars is going to be huge!

[@mike_scatt8730]

@@AbitofEverything4U agreed

[@artistanthony1007]

No they made characters awful, She Hulk treats her cousin horribly in E1 saying she controls anger infinitely better than him than acknowledging he went through alot growing up, that's horrible and inexcusable to even do.

[@notthecityhq7699]

Where I feel Phase 1 and Phase 4 are similar yet very different is the “expectation of past triumphs”. The two do feel the same in some ways, but Phase 4 can never have that same “blind/no expectation feeling” like I feel with Phase 1. And that’s totally okay in my book. I’ve loved these new characters and stories.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Great analysis. You are spot on that Phase 4 had a lot of expectation on it and that made it harder for it to just breathe as it took time to bring in new characters and new storylines. But I agree with you that I loved the new characters and stories and I was okay with how Phase 4 was handled. I think it sets us up very well for some awesome new content in Phase 5 and beyond. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!

[@Surfboarder4]

We're actually lucky the timeline is as stable as it is. They could have very easily screwed up with impossible scenarios like: A < B B < C C < A Fortunately that hasn't happened. If it ever does I'm gonna have a meltdown.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes, we will both have a meltdown if they mess up the timeline like that. It has actually felt like they came close at points. The ties between She-Hulk and Shang Chi with the cage fighting video was a close call and also the mention of "Lady Thor" in She-Hulk. But it has all worked out just fine in the end so far. Great comments!

[@blancaatencio3624]

Amazing video and work. Love your channel, keep it up! I agree that fans overfucused too much on the negatives, and that the "Phase 4 Sucks" or "MCU is Ruined" videos were blown out of proportion and ignored so many good things Phase 4 did, like, you don't see anyone talk that with more formats aside from movies for MCU storylines, more comic book characters, stories and concepts can be adapted at all or in ways that weren't possible before in a theatrical release, expanding the scope of what the MCU could be or do (WandaVision, She-Hulk or Werewolf by Night would've been impossible before Phase 4), and now it feels like the possibilities for this franchise are endless. Alongside that, the MCU in Phase 4 has made great steps towards representation of different ethnic groups and cultures that were so ignored or outright badly represented during The Infinity Saga, with projects like Shang-Chi, Ms. Marvel or Moon Knight. I admire the little baby steps towards creativity they did too, with several projects being a breath of fresh air from the usual standard MCU entry. Even from a cinematic standpoint, Multiverse of Madness or Eternals are some of the best directed MCU things ever In any case, i'm hopeful towards the future. And I wish none of the Phase 5 and 6 projects get canceled, and they fins a way to get those projects afloat and manage to do them to the best of their abilities.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Great comments. Yes, I think you summarized Phase 4 very well. I was quite happy with it and I think Marvel deserves alot more credit than they get. Plus, with all the heavy lifting they did in Phase 4 to introduce new characters and new plot lines, Phases 5 and 6 are really gonna be something to see. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your excellent feedback. I really love hearing what other MCU fans are thinking!

[@alejandromagana4733]

For me, I thought phase 4 was good but very uneven but it makes sense. Marvel was trying to take some risks, and some worked and others didn’t making them forgettable which hurts the phase overall. But the main issue with phase 4, is that it feels unfocused. Where is the story heading? What’s next? Yes, we get hints and a fan knows what comes next but general audiences don’t usually know that. Every other phases has concluded in an avengers film that tied the rest of the phase together, but phase 4 lacks that point of convergence

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes, I think that did indeed hurt the phase. Granted, an overarching theme was about grief, loss, pain, and moving forward. But I think people were looking for more connections between the individual entries, like we saw in earlier Phases. That said, I suspect that we will look back more fondly on Phase 4 after we see all the plot threads paying off in Phases 5 and 6. Can't wait to see where the story goes from here. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!

[@thesungkur1]

Totally agree! Phase 4 is basically Phase 1 of The Multiverse Saga, expanding the universe and introducing the audience to all of these new characters and storylines! The only big negative I personally have in this phase is, like you said, there is no 'Avengers' movie at the end of this phase that doesn't tie everything together :(. But...that's why I'm really excited about Phase 5! If you look at Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, it's going to tie storylines from Ant-Man and the Wasp, Avengers: Endgame, Loki, Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings and Ms. Marvel which is really cool considering this is just the first movie of Phase 5 :) But overall, I agree, Phase 4 is a success considering all the unfortunate circumstances it was placed in. The Phase accomplishes what it sets out to do, with a few hiccups along the way! My ranking of the phases is the same as you :), I think only Phase 6 (and maybe Phase 5) can compete against Phase 3 as Phase 3 was the 'Endgame Phase' of The Infinity Saga just like Phase 6 will be the 'Endgame Phase' of The Mutiverse Saga 😄. I'd also happily wait for Avengers: Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars for a longer period of time if it's needed! I'm happy Marvel Studios took the decision to delay Avengers: Secret Wars to 2026 as it seemed really wild to get two Avengers movies in the same year!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Great comments. Yes, you summarized Phase 4 perfectly. I do think that even people who aren't happy with Phase 4 right now will ultimately look back on it fondly as the see all the good work it has done to get Phases 5 and 6 ready to blow the roof off the joint. Excellent point about Quantumania. It will be the beginning of the payoff to all the setup done in Phase 4. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!

[@thesungkur1]

Thank you for the content! It's really hard to find positive evaluations of the MCU nowadays :( But hopefully, like you said, once Phases 5 and 6 have been released, more people will come to realize the overall purpose of Phase 4 and why it was necessary :)

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Well said. Can't wait to see what's coming next in Phase 5 and beyond!

[@thesungkur1]

Me too!

[@MarvinMartinez2001]

Werewolf by Night is forever iconic!!! 🌕🐺

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Totally! Loved that special. Such a big swing by Marvel and they hit a home run!

[@phoenixcoleman3256]

Every project in phase 4 did atleast 1 thing right imo. Eternals had amazing choreography, She-Hulk jabbed at real life issues, and Thor 4 was hilarious. So no matter what there's always something to look forward to when watching a phase 4 project, which is why I liked it so much.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Great way to look at things. I agree, it was an enjoyable phase and had alot to be thankful for. Even the entries that were lower on my list were still fun to watch and as you point out, every entry had something good to take from it. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!

[@JulianRog]

I actually agree with you for the most part. Great video btw! I was also wondering, how do you think phase 5 projects will connect to other phase 5 projects, and also with other phase 4 projects?

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Thanks for the positive feedback on the video. Also, good question about Phase 5. The next video will be on Phase 5 and 6 slates, so I'll see if I can add some commentary on how I think they will all connect.

[@benb4192]

Another thing with James Gunn, he also said on twitter that in his mind, Guardians: Holiday Special takes place in 2022, which is obviously so incorrect, considering like 80% of the characters in it are dead in 2022. I'll come back and edit this if I can find it

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Wow...man, I really do love Gunn, but he's a loose canon on twitter. He also said I Am Groot wasn't canon and clearly Marvel disagrees. Oh well, at least his movies are amazing. But Marvel needs to give him more information up front so he doesn't have to keep guessing like that. I mean, come on. His tweets are so far from reality that it's almost comical.

[@awesomeobliterated8890]

It was so much simpler when the marvel content had the same dates as the times they were released 😭 I know that the years are no longer in line, but can’t they do a similar thing anyways like if they release something in October 2022 then they say it’s October 2024?

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Right...it would certainly be ideal if things were released and were in the timeline in the same month of release. Ironically, I think the movies are doing that for the most part. However, thanks to some wonkiness with the timelines, it is making it look like that isn't happening. However, the D+ shows are appearing all over the timeline, so they make it really confusing. That said, it does allow more flexibility in storytelling to let the shows fill whatever gaps are needed. So perhaps it is for the best. But I agree, it makes it alot more confusing that way.

[@Surfboarder4]

James Gunn's timeline comments are painful.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Gunn's timeline comments are sooooo painful!

[@raulguillermogarciareyes1817]

Well I think financially the movies have been doing ok, really good in fact considering the circumstances of last year. The success of the shows is harder to know, but they consistently show up on Nielsen and other sites. What I see has changed is the discourse on social media and KZbin. I think you’re right about some of the reasons (specially having to essentially start again after Endgame) but there are two other factors to consider: 1. Since Captain Marvel and specially The Last Jedi negativity online has grown a lot and become more popular online each year. Although phases one and two had weaker movies they didn’t had to deal with that. 2. Eternals was the first rotten film in the MCU and I think it made the franchise lose an aura of protection and people who always have had issues with it became bolder to criticize it. By the way, regarding the cultural events. the argument I use to decide if they count or not is the background of the writers and directors. Since the teams of Shang Chi and Ms. Marvel are Asian-American and Muslim I tend to believe the event is relevant to them and they are aware of the dates, in contrast to Far from home where neither the writer or director is from Prague.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Very good feedback. I agree that the fan discourse for both Star Wars and the MCU has gotten much more toxic. It's really sad to see, tbh. I think I would throw into the discussion that the success of fans to get DC to release the Snyder cut has emboldened fans to demand what they want from the studios. Ironically, the fans were right and the Snyder cut was so much better. But now people demand the XYZ cut of everything as they assume that what we got is inferior. We definitely live in the age of social media controlling the conversation and doing so in toxic fashion. Also, I think you have a good point on the cultural events and the creative teams. However, what is so odd about Ms. Marvel is that everything in the series points to it happening in September. I've covered it in detail in my timeline video on Ms. Marvel, but my point is the writer and director put strong clues thruout the series that it is the beginning of Kamala's junior year. Yet, that flies in the face of when the second Eid celebration occurs. So even in this case where the creative team has a strong background in Muslim culture, they still seemed to ignore the Eid placement. Very bizarre. Anyway, really appreciate you watching. Great comments!

[@raulguillermogarciareyes1817]

That is a good point about the Snyder Cut, I didn't think about its influence but is certainly there. Regarding Ms. Marvel, you are right and the production design points towards the beginning of the school year (altough, I would argue that Bruno's Caltech admission is more logical if you are finishig junior year, not beginning it). Neither placement is ideal, I think both can be argued at least until The Marvels, where I hope it gets more clarity.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yeah, I don't understand the Bruno thing. I am assuming he is starting his junior like Kamala and that he's so smart and talented that he got asked to come to Caltech earlier than most would get asked. It does track with how smart he is portrayed in the series. But look at all of these indicators that it is happening in fall rather than spring: - College admissions are coming (would be done well before June) - SAT will follow before long (wouldn't happen in June) - Kamran transferred in (unlikely if it was in June) - Posters for homecoming queen (indicating fall) - Student President voting is soon (likely not happening in June) - “This Fall: Fight the Flu” signs (indicating fall) - She’s attending a guidance session (unlikely at the end of the year) - We see leaves in several scenes, such as when she falls out of her bedroom on the the pile of leaves below. So really, nothing indicates June other than the second Eid celebration. I just don't get why the writer and director would put all of those indicators that it is fall if they wanted it to be set in June. Oh well, just one more bizarre timeline situation.

[@alwaysbored5075]

Hey man! I love your videos, and I was wondering, will you ever make a video dating the pre-Disney+ shows? (If you haven’t already)

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Thanks for the positive feedback. Really appreciate it! And yes, I've definitely gotten requests for a timeline of the pre-D+ shows. I am considering doing it in parallel to the movie timeline since the two didn't really cross over too much (although AoS had a few epic crossovers). I fear that putting them in one timeline will be messy but making a timeline that lays next to the movie timeline might be perfect. I was asked if I would do it for each episode of the Netflix series, but that could end up deep in the weeds, so I may just do it for each season as a whole. Anyway yes, that's a great idea and I do plan on doing it. Appreciate you suggesting it!

[@cheesemaster6796]

Quality content man, keep it up!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Thanks so much. Really appreciate it!

[@OpinionParade]

10:20 James Gunn's firing was a mistake. That's why they reversed it.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

I've heard people say that, but unless you've actually seen his tweets, it's hard to really judge. You can check them out here: www.theverge.com/2018/7/20/17596452/guardians-of-the-galaxy-marvel-james-gunn-fired-pedophile-tweets-mike-cernovich. The things he tweeted about are reprehensible. Disney had no choice but to fire him as they are a company that prides itself in child friendly content and so joking about pedophilia doesn't fit with their image. To his credit, Gunn agreed that he messed up, he apologized for the tweets and said he's changed as a person, and he was supported by his cast and crew. This allowed Disney to rehire him to complete the Guardians Trilogy. I wish everyone that made mistakes like Gunn could simply apologize and move on instead of doubling down and defending themselves. Gunn is a perfect example of how to deal with a very bad choice (i.e. his tweets).

[@GobiPup]

I loved phase 4. Experimental after endgame. Also WandaVision was event television and one of the best Twilight Zone-esque series. Lastly, I really like that changes are being made at Disney. We’ll see how it goes obviously, but it’s good that they are reacting.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

I agree, I thought Phase 4 was alot of fun. Sure, some of the entries weren't perfect, but I really enjoyed what we got. And WandaVision was amazing! Also, I agree with you that Marvel is doing a good job of reacting to the concerns people had. Really looking forward to all we have in store for us in Phase 5 and beyond!

[@RoyaltyEntertainment510]

Phase 4 brought my friends deeper into the marvel lore. We’re writing our own Universe so to speak for a future anime show. This phase Better showed us how we Could set up a over-arcing storyline while having mcGouffin’s & how we could connect things in a new & dope way. Yeah a couple phase 4 titles weren’t up to snuff with what we’ve been spoiled with, overall this phase as a set up phase similar to phase 1 was done very well indeed

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Very well said. I completely agree. That is a great summary of Phase 4. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!

[@RoyaltyEntertainment510]

@@AbitofEverything4U no, thank you for the in-depth Phase 4 coverage & great Marvel content. Thank you

[@AbitofEverything4U]

You are very welcome!

[@Surfboarder4]

I don't see anything being cancelled, at least nothing that's been officially announced. The 'Vision Quest' series sounds like it could make a special presentation.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Right, I am hopeful we won't see anything cancelled. My next video will look at what we know about Phase 5 and 6 and will indeed go into the question of what may be changed with the new management at Marvel. Thanks as always for your great comments!

[@Surfboarder4]

@@AbitofEverything4U everything up to Ironheart has been filmed, so none of that is likely to be cancelled. Agatha, Daredevil and Cap NWO are all filming imminently, or starting Q1 2023, so are unlikely to be changed. I think they're determined to see Blade through. Thunderbolts is the event finale of Phase 5 Deadpool 3, Fantastic 4 are big films ahead of Kang Dynasty, not gonna be canned. So nothing announced is getting canned, that's fairly certain. If they're cancelling unannounced things, as long as its not Moon Knight S2 I'll never know or care.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@Surfboarder4 I was definitely afraid after DC cancelled projects literally ready to go to the theatre, such as Batgirl. But I agree with your assessment of things. You summarized it very well. I will cover Phase 5 and 6 in my next video and it will be interesting discussing it in light of the recent changes. There were some rumors of the potential Phase 6 slate that came out before the big changes at Disney, so we can look at what was mentioned as being on the slate and what may or may not make it to production.

[@jacksonbrickmedia939]

When the critic score for infinity war is at 15th place 🙁

[@AbitofEverything4U]

IKR? Insanity!

[@АлексейМомот-щ7о]

25:22 This is why a lot of MCU fans were disappointed, all other fandoms are used to disparate projects that barely connect and want more connectivity and buildup, while MCU fans have been enjoying strong connectivity for its entire run that was also easy to follow. Do you have the same graph for Phase 1? The media and fans think the problem is too much connectivity, but the actual problem is how convoluted it is.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes! I think you nailed it perfectly. It was the lack of connectivity in Phase 4 that really confused folks and made it feel directionless. I am really hopeful we start to see things pay off in Phase 5 and 6 because Phase 4 did alot of heavy lifting for nothing if we don't see it all start to come together. And I do indeed have the entire Phases 1-4 in a chart. You can find it on my google drive here: drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1R_PrexMkTjYpQAraxlhzs2U5EPJEPioc. Also, this video goes thru Phases 1-3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6XFhoWDedhre5I and this video goes thru Phase 4: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rabOg52bos6lmqc. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!

[@MustardMan838]

I think it was pretty solid overall as other people say. I think it just wasn't the same type of world building that did this. They focused a lot more on the introduction of characters and just showing what happened after the blip. So far, based on trailers for Quantamania and Guardians of the Galaxy seems like it will introduce some characters, but have stories that build the multiverse story more. Also, this is before I have finished the video so I'm saying this before I know what you say.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yeah, you are thinking along the same line as I did. I think that Phase 5 will greatly benefit from all the heavy lifting that Phase 4 did to lay the tracks on all the new storylines and also introduce so many new characters. I think Phase 5 will be able to pick up on the plot points from Phase 5 and will give us alot more connectivity in the overall story. Really appreciate you watching the video. Love to hear from other MCU fans and what they are thinking!

[@joeswoo5393]

I love 99% of the stuff marvel puts out but even I know that phase 4 really needed to step it up. The "set-up" phase is absolutely the best way to describe this phase. A lot of damage control is gonna be needed and thinking about how it would have went without the pandemic is a little depressing but phase 5 has me very hopeful.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes, definitely with you that Phase 4 was a setup phase, much like Phase 1 was. And of course the pandemic didn't help. I do think, however, that there were enough shining stars in the phase to make it a success overall. Between some great new characters (Yelena, Kate, and Shang Chi in particular) and some unbelievable stories (Loki, Wandavision and No Way home in particular), we got some great content. You are absolutely correct, though, that Marvel must improve on the story quality as well as the CGI. I think they will do that in Phase 5, but if not, then that would not be good. Similar to you, I do have hope for Phase 5. The slate looks awesome. Thanks so much for watching the video and sharing your thoughts. I love to hear what fellow MCU fans are thinking!

[@joeswoo5393]

@@AbitofEverything4U Totally, NWH and a ton of shows were absolute bangers Keep doing what you do man, these videos are the most entertaining marvel based videos I’ve seen on YT

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Thanks so much. Really appreciate it!

[@ali4ne]

I do agree Phase 4 would have worked a lot better if there was a clear order of events that they at least gave us the opportunity to place everything on our mental timeline, also creates more hype for each movie/show if we would know how it relates to other installments at least a little bit I gotta say the standardized 6 episode frame for series annoys me both in Marvel and Star Wars, mostly because it is too little time for a fully thought out series which caused rushed finales like we've seen in quite some of the MCU shows like Hawkeye, Moon Knight, TFAWS, Ms. Marvel. Really I believe the only show that got it right was Loki, because WandaVision was 9 (thank god). If you look at how Star Wars handled Andor by giving it 12 episodes, I personally think it really helped give the story more time to naturally develop, whereas shorter timeframes causes series to move from plot point to plot point in unnaturally fast ways to get to the end in time which ultimately just makes everything feel rushed and forced. I know that the 6 episode time frame is probably well thought out by Disney from a financial point of view, but I really hope that they will see that most of the shows struggle to find a natural flow with so little time, so it would be great if they could do 9 episodes minimum like they did with WandaVision (probably because it had a clear idea), OR just let every series have an individual choice to get enough episodes to tell their story as Disney did with Andor. I saw already that Daredevil will have 18 episodes which is hugely promising, but I believe that for most others it will still be 6

[@ali4ne]

That being said i think Phase 4 had some successful installments and some failures as well, and they balance eachother out, so my final verdict would be that Phase 4 was OK, not specifically good and not specifically bad

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Fantastic analysis! Yes, I think the 6 episode format hurt both the MCU and Star Wars. Hopefully they will get that figured out and find a better format. I agree that both Andor and WandaVision worked so much better than most of the 6 episode series. I am happy to see that Marvel is taking a hard look at Phase 4 and taking steps to improve. I am optimistic that Phase 5 will be much more consistent on quality. Really looking forward to what's ahead. Thanks so much for sharing your excellent feedback. I really appreciate hearing what other MCU fans are thinking!

[@MediaLeft425]

I will say one thing: Netflix has almost double the subscribers of Disney+ as cool as D+ is lol. I agree with your phase ranking. It's definitely 3, 4, 2, 1. Phase 3 should be better audience score wise than phase four but people reviewbombed the Captain Marvel movie so badly it tanked the whole score, similar to She-Hulk.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

I think Disney+ has more subscribers if you include the bundle. According to CBS News: "The Walt Disney Co. said its three main streaming services - Disney+, ESPN+ and Hulu - have grown their subscriber numbers to more than 235 million as of October 1, or above Netflix's 223 million subscribers." So that's really impressive since Netflix is a beast. And I definitely agree with your points about review bombing. It messes up the RT scores but it also shows fan reactions, even if they are misplaced in their level of negative aggression. Thanks as always for your great comments and feedback!

[@masterharryl8561]

In my opinion it was a great success. I know there were some major misses such as She Hulk and Ms. Marvel, but when I ranked my favorite marvel projects I had four phase four projects (3 movies, 1 show) in my top ten.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Right! I think that's the key. There were some big time issues of quantity over quality for some of the entries, but when the entries were good, they were incredibly good. I really enjoyed Phase 4 and can't wait to see what comes next. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!

[@АлексейМомот-щ7о]

That feeling when Andor literally has an intro with timeline placement 😉🤣

[@AbitofEverything4U]

5 BBY, baby! Made my heart sing!

[@HotshotABYT]

Good video!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Thanks so much. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your feedback!

[@HotshotABYT]

​@@AbitofEverything4U Np!

[@kikosawa]

I personally think that Phase 4 was the best phase by far. And all THANKS to the overall spread-out of the stories. Thanks to Feige the characters introduced in this phase are all connected, but the state of the MCU finnaly allows them to feel independent of each other, and that's great. Especially for critics who generally dislike franchises.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yeah, great points. I should have been clear that I didn't mind the disconnected stories and I think the spaghetti like timeline was kinda fun. But I do suspect that people with less patience than us were not ready for such a big shift from how Phases 1 - 3 were structured. It was a shock to the system, but, as you very aptly point out it was a necessary shock to the system to avoid the MCU from becoming stale. Excellent comments as always!

[@kikosawa]

@@AbitofEverything4U Thank you!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

You're very welcome!

[@thomasmyers8773]

James Gunn probably thinks that the Guardians were with for Thor for only a few weeks due to the movies original placement. If GotG3 was the start of phase 4 then it probably would have been a few weeks after endgame.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Excellent point! He's probably thinking back to the original plan. In that case, Thor would have left the Guardians to then appear in L&T at some point afterwards. Then again, it still makes no sense as it would mean Thor had to work off his depression weight in just a few days to even spend any time at all with the Guardians on adventures. Or maybe he didn't work off the weight until his own movie in the original scenario? Just weird. But I do think you could be on to something with your theory. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. Love the dialogue with fellow MCU fans!

[@thomasmyers8773]

Love the videos, keep up the amazing work :)

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@thomasmyers8773 Thanks so much!

[@ThatGuy-jj3kz]

Failure might be harsh, but Phase 4 was far from a success. If there was one word I would use to describe the phase, it would be overloaded. We had 17 (18 if you count the I Am Groot shorts) shows, specials, and movies with more runtime than the Infinity Saga combined. While the pandemic has severely hurt Marvel, several factors doomed the phase and possibly the multiverse saga. 1. Disney+ was a double edge sword, with several of the shows ranging in quality and having so much content in those two years 2. The Phase 4 movies and shows had major script problems 3. There are too many characters 4. Shortening the phase from 3-4 years to 2 was a miscalculated move on Marvel's part that is the major source for all of their problems. 5. Ending the phase with a team-up movie (it doesn't need to be an Avengers film) would have given the phase a better sense of direction. 6. Overworking VFX workers I thought I was falling out of love with Marvel, but the previous movies still hold up with how good they were at being standalone films and part of a cinematic universe. Going from Phase 3 to 4 was never going to be easy, but despite having a year without Marvel content, they rushed into the phase with mixed results. Going into Phase 5, the MCU has been divisive and not in a good way. While some people liked Quantumania, I hope Marvel sees that movie and Phase 4 as a wake-up call that they need to slow down and improve.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Great commentary! Yes, I agree with all of the reasons you mention for Phase 4 being less than it could have been and I definitely agree that #4 on your list was a huge tactical error on their part. Looks like they are slowing things down now, so perhaps they did learn from that mistake. Thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!

[@KurumaDesigns]

I enjoyed most of phase 4 so it definetly was a success in my book! I also think Wakanda Forever and the GOTG Holiday Special was a solid send off for the phase 👌🏻 Can’t wait for phase 5 tho!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Well said. Very excited for Phase 5. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!

[@stevenducken7224]

Even with all the negative feedback it is still a success. I mean just look at the cash Marvel is still pulling in. The shows and movies are good enough that people still want to watch more even tho they might criticize it. People hate but in reality they are gonna watch all the next projects anyway. So it brought in a large amount of viewers and got people interested in the next phase. I would say that is a success

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes, I agree. Even those that felt Phase 4 wasn't a success are still watching because rocky though it may have been in places, it is still great content. You are right that Phase 4 was a success for the reasons you laid out. Plus, I am hopeful that fans look back on Phase 4 more fondly once we see just how much heavy lifting it did in creating all the storylines that will now be told in Phases 5 and 6. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it hearing what other MCU fans are thinking!

[@artistanthony1007]

Dude I ain't and have not watched because of how terrible characters like She-Hulk have been especially with the childish & hypocritical comment she controls anger infinitely better than Bruce which she goes against that so you are wrong and what's with this "people will"? Dude you don't know everyone on this planet so don't act like you believe & think everyone will hate but watch it anyway because not everyone will.

[@artistanthony1007]

​@@AbitofEverything4U No because I haven't, don't even try putting words in my mouth or others.

[@ShaneFussell]

Honestly, phase 4 has been my favorite. I grew up watching the MCU and endgame was kind of the bookend to a big part of my life. During that time, a lot of bad stuff in my life happened and I lost a lot. Phase 4 being an overall exploration of grief and moving forward is what gives me my answer. Honestly, phase 4 having a clear and underlying theme as opposed to a culmination of all the stories that is brought home by Wakanda forever is what does it for me

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Very well said. The theme of grief, pain, loss and finding a way to carry on is indeed an overall theme of Phase 4 and I'm sure that has resonated with so many people. I have felt the same as I identified with several of the characters morning the loss of loved ones. Thanks for sharing how Phase 4 has meant so much to you. I love that it was there when you needed it most. Really appreciate your comments!

[@john_comi]

I know this is definitely a controversial opinion, but Phase 4 is definitely my favorite phase. Yes phase 3 was iconic and has some of my favorite movies (IW, Endgame, Homecoming) but Phase 4 has so much more variety in both genre and they way it was delivered. Disney+ gave the MCU so many new opportunities to tell entirely new stories and these films feel a lot less generic than the usual formula used in pretty much every phase 3 movie. IMO, this is the closest Marvel studios has gotten to replication Comic Books l, and I hope that Phase 5 can be even better!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

I think your logic makes alot of sense. You are correct that Phase 4 included alot of experimentation and creativity and even if everything didn't work perfectly, it was refreshing to see some new things being tried. Kudos to Marvel for being willing to let the creative teams for the projects really run and be free to try new ideas. I agree, can't wait to see what's next in Phase 5 and I think it will only get better from here. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it!

[@juanify9707]

Phase 4 has many refreshing projects. They jumped out of the usual Marvel formula which are more rewatchable imo, even though some of them aren't good.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes, that's a great point. Marvel was very experimental in Phase 4 and I really appreciate that. It's important to keep changing things up or we get too used to the status quo. Really looking forward to Phase 5!

[@juanify9707]

@@AbitofEverything4U Some of my favorite Marvel projects actually come from phase 4, which are Loki, NWH and Wakanda Forvever. I feel like it's an unpopular opinion but I do agree with you that phase 4 is my second favorite phase behind phase 3.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yeah, it's funny how I was almost afraid to say that Phase 4 was my second favorite Phase as I was fearing how many people would yell at me for saying Phase 4 was any good at all. But so far the comments have been overall very positive for Phase 4 with some people even saying it's their favorite Phase of all.

[@linusklaus]

Phase 4 feels like reading comic books, and for a comic book inspired franchise thats the ultimate achievement. So I call it a success

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Great point! Yes, I agree, Phase 4 really did feel like reading comic books and that is indeed high praise. I love the experimentation with new ideas and seeing so many new characters popping up. Excellent feedback. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!

[@shaidreamcast5141]

I think the reception of Phase 4 definitely needs more time to sit. I guarantee that in a year or so from now, the reviews will change. Some of them are too new and need to really "settle" and give people a chance to look back on. Also, maybe im in the wrong places, but I remember seeing people tear apart Thor and Doctor Strange, so it's really surprising to see the fan reception so high up. Also She Hulk is a victim of the review bombing. I thought it was okay, but definitely not 30% bad.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Great comments. I completely agree that in time, Phase 4 will be regarded more highly, even by those that disliked it at the time. When people see all the payoff in Phases 5 and 6 that was perfectly set up by Phase 4, then Phase 4 will be viewed in a different and more positive light. Also, I agree, I was surprised to see the fan numbers so high for L&T and MoM. Not what I expected. Thanks so much for the excellent feedback. Really appreciate it!

[@ucmanhvuong4301]

I mean Ig you can call it review bombing when everyone tuned out on the 1st ep and reviewed it based on just the 1st ep. Tbh tho if they kept watching, they might have even rated it lower bcs the show kept getting worse and worse the more I watched.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@ucmanhvuong4301 Yeah, the show definitely had some weaker filler episodes in the middle that weren't that great, but I really liked the Daredevil episode and then the finale was certainly not without controversy, but I give them huge kudos for doing something very different than normal and also making fun of themselves in the process.

[@zavi5956]

This may be a controversial opinion, but I don’t understand the love for Loki. When I first watched it, I loved it and it expanded the MCU so much. Rewatching Loki tho, it’s so boring??

[@AbitofEverything4U]

I think that's a very understandable comment. Honestly, I don't enjoy watching TV shows a second time, in general. I did like watching Netflix Daredevil a second time as it is just so darn good. But TV shows are great the first time, but I always want them to move more quickly the next time thru. Some movies I feel the same way, but at least they are shorter. Anyway, that's a very good observation. I am excited about Loki S2, though. Should be great. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!

[@josinfleurs]

Thank God they’re aware of the problems... that makes us more confident and less worried for the future... I guess Phase 4 felt more like a “test” that almost failed and now they’re gonna fix what was bad

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes, Phase 4 was very experimental and some things worked really well and others not so much. Throw in the pandemic and it made it hard to tell what Phase 4 would have looked like with no crazy issues like that. But I totally agree that it makes me happy to see Marvel is aware changes are needed and is willing to make them. Looking forward to Phase 5 and 6!

[@Steeezzzzz]

Wow we missed out on America Chavez in No way home, So thats why Doctor Strange mentioned him because they were supposed to have already met. I wonder if it’ll be in the next avengers or spiderman movie

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yeah, isn't that wild that it would have been America Chavez that brought in the other Spider-Men in No Way Home. The pandemic really made a mess of things. I do suspect the next Avengers movie, or perhaps Secret Wars, will be where we finally see everything coming together. Great feedback! Thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!

[@lewisthomas4857]

Great video as always!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Thanks so much...really appreciate it!

[@mrfutrzaczek9127]

I really like phase 4, propably mostly because I really love Black Panther Wakanda Forever, and Doctor Strange MoM. They are propably my fav MCU movies in general. I do not coun't Disney+ shows, because I do not have it and I only watched WandaVision and Loki, witch I really liked as well.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes, both of those movies were excellent. Phase 4 had alot of very high points and those are two great examples!

[@apoorvsingh4459]

I will say what i have been thinking since some time, i don't think phase 4 is the worst or weakest phase it is simply the most divisive one, which is a key word here. There are people who have liked even She-hulk, Thor 4 and Ms marvel which others consider a failure. Those things which weren't enjoyed by a certain section were enjoyed by the others. I personally consider only Thor and She-hulk as missed opportunities/failures but rest of the stuff was quite alright, some of them being better than projects of previous phases and others being just decent

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Good comments. Yes, it has indeed been divisive. Another thing that divided fans was the experimental nature of the phase. Marvel allowed directors to do their own thing, whether it be with Eternals, Multiverse of Madness, Thor: L&T, Werewolf by Night, She-Hulk, etc., Marvel encouraged the directors to try something new. Sometimes it stuck the landing and other times it divided fans. But I appreciate that Marvel was willing to try new things to keep it fresh. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. You raised some excellent points. Really appreciate learning what other MCU fans are thinking!

[@theanatomyoffilmandcinema]

I think phase 4 is probably my least favorite phase but I still don’t think it’s downright terrible. I liked the diversity of content and there were some true gems to be found here. However, I do have a few issues. First, I wish they broke the formula of all marvel films as to me they all follow a similar template. I wish MOM was a real horror movie for example, maybe the first rated R MCU film? I also feel like the amount of content was too much, especially for casual fans. This content also lessens the overall quality of the movies and shows which is a big problem. I know you are going to disagree but I personally find most of the shows not so great as they feel like movies that were too long so they condensed them into Disney plus shows. I also found it harder to care about the MCU as a whole because the stories all felt inconsequential in the grander scheme of things. Good video!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Great comments. I think you have an excellent point that the movies need to deviate from the standard formula more often. I do suspect we will get some R movies in Phase 5, as Deadpool will be R and likely Blade. So that should be fun to see. And I do agree that there was an awful lot of content in Phase 4. I personally didn't mind it, but a casual fan probably would. Plus, the quality dropped when the quantity was so high. Hopefully they will improve on that in Phase 5. And I do suspect you'll see things connecting together alot more in Phase 5 as well. Phase 4 did the heavy lifting of setting up new ideas, concepts and storylines so that Phase 5 can really take off. So while I did like Phase 4 overall, you raise many good points that I really hope Marvel is listening to! Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. Truly appreciate it!

[@jozey5215]

Kinda late to the party, but thanks for this good analysis. Luvd it. IMO its safe to say phase 4 was fairly successful. I mean box office wise all theatrical releases returned a profit and on streaming, the shows gunnerd subscribers for Disney plus which to be fair is relatively new compared to the rest. The phase had poor writing for me....the pain of sitting thru She hulk n Ms Marvel, is unparalleled....Thor 4 was such a big disappointment... I cannot even.... I keep asking, couldn't Hemsworth put in more of his take in the creative room other than letting Waititi ruin his character with too much sillyness. I mean, he is an MCU veteran...one of the big 3 originals. Surely he could hv spoken up on the direction thor was being taken in love n thunder. Disappointment mn. PAIN....came out of theatre feeling nothing. Hahaha But thanks bro. Keep up the good work😘

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Great commentary. I agree, I thought Phase 4 was successful and also that it set up Phases 5 and 6 with so many great storylines that will be paid off. I think we will look back on Phase 4 with a lot different viewpoint as we see all the heaving lifting that it did. But I also agree that some of the writing was just painful. While I liked She-Hulk and Ms. Marvel overall, they had some extremely low points in writing that made it very, very hard to enjoy at times. And the non-stop jokes in L&T, most of which didn't land, ruined Thor for me. I truly hope they give Hemsworth a Thor 5 to end on a high note. Again fantastic analysis. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts. Love the dialogue with fellow MCU fans!

[@jozey5215]

@@AbitofEverything4U That Thor 5 better be something serious with a new director... Maybe the Russo's, koz they did well with him in Infinity war... Maybe they can give good action n story with Hercules Am glad u enjoyed Shehulk n Ms Marvel overall... But for me...twas only the first episodes that were okay...the rest not good. And because of that, i resolved to draw back on the hype with these shows... Or maybe to start watching from the penultimate episode n wait for the finale Koz that seems the case...great first episode to hook viewers n then ts all downhill until the finale which at times fails to be done true justice koz of rushing. We need to have value for the time we invest in these shows mn. But if they continue with this format...i for one will simply binge when the shows r done. Maybe only check ur views n see watsap 😏😜 Take secret invasion for two. While i may not be much of a comic book reader, from what i hv heard, its a big event storyline in the comics,.. something akin to secret wars...maybe not much So i dont really think they will play it for how big it was in the comics. 6episodes???? Idk mn. Nonetheless...its a new phase...lets hope we can balance being serious as well as provided good comedy n fun. 🥂

[@AbitofEverything4U]

​@@jozey5215 Yup, you are totally right about She-Hulk and Ms. Marvel. Great starts and then some very weak episodes after that. Don't blame you are all for dropping off after one or two shots. I will say that She-Hulk Ep 8 is awesome and 9 is love it or hate it, but quite a unique story like we've never seen before. But yeah, really hoping Phase 5 is a huge step up in writing from Phase 4. Need more consistent writing or people will do exactly what you did and quit watching if the story isn't good. Here's hoping Phase 5 is gonna deliver!

[@bananaking664]

it’s so crazy how much the pandemic changed phase 4 like wow

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Totally! It's amazing that Phase 4 was as good as it was, considering all that had to be overcome!

[@serpentlord1312]

Theory about the Snap/Blib: the six infinity stones chose to kill people that would be a danger to the universe Peter Parker/Spider-Man literally almost destroyed the universe/multiverse because of the spell that he had Doctor Strange do speaking of which Doctor Strange not only almost destroyed the multiverse with the spell but he has now caused an incursion dangering his universe Wanda becomes the Scarlet Witch and threatens the multiverse these three characters threaten the universe/multiverse could tell us other characters that got snapped will probably also go on to cause other harm Bucky Sam Quill Mantis Drax Groot Yelena Monica Shuri (mind you I haven’t seen Wakanda Forever yet so I don’t know if she made a couple of bad decisions in that) if T’Challa didn’t die afterwards maybe the thing between him and Namor probably would have been very bad Ned MJ and Aunt May where basically helping Peter who ends up endangering the multiverse now then why didn’t somebody like Clint get snapped considering he would go on to become The Ronin and kill people for five years mind you his only killing bad people gangs thugs murderers so the six stones would have saw that as ok (as messed up as that sounds) and finally what would Hank Pym Hope Van Dyne and Janet have done to get snapped? We’ll probably see that in ether Ant Man and The Wasp Quantumania or Avengers The Kang Dynasty now then if this theory is true why didn’t the stones snap away Tony since him coming up with a way to time travel would cause the snap to be undone? Honestly if it wasn’t for Scott Lang coming back from the Quantum Realm and telling people we can use the Quantum Realm to time travel then Tony wouldn’t have gotten the idea to have done that then you may be asking why didn’t the stones snap away Scott? Simple I bet if he wasn’t in the Quantum Realm when the snap was happening then Scott would have definitely gotten dusted because time works differently in the Quantum Realm (plus apart of me feels like the TVA reside somewhere within the Quantum Realm and we know the infinity stones are useless in the TVA’s place so yeah)

[@AbitofEverything4U]

How interesting! I mean, from Thanos' perspective it was meant to be a random who was killed, but you have a point that the stones may well have made it random for the most part but also chose a few key people to take out of the equation. Basically a Project Insight algorithm in the stones to remove the threats to the stones. Funny that Scott Lang dodged it only by being stuck in the quantum realm. Anyway, yeah, that's a really fascinating theory. Thanks for sharing.

[@slurpeekyler]

This might be a hot take but I loved this phase everything was good except for LaT and FaTWS.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

I agree, I think it was a great Phase and that in time fans will look back on it with even more reverence once it is clear just how well it set up Phases 5 and 6 with all the plot threads. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!

[@OnlyOneTubing]

The connections are there we just haven't seen them yet.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Completely agree. I think people will look back on Phase 4 with more favor once they see how all the plot points come to fruition in Phases 5 and 6!

[@awesomeobliterated8890]

Also, are you gonna get into the DCU and make videos on it too once it starts gaining momentum from the new plan they’re building?

[@AbitofEverything4U]

I definitely need to consider doing that. I am excited to see the DCU finally gaining some traction and assuming Gunn can pull off what he is hoping to accomplish, then my excitement for the DCU will return. I do admit, it's been frustrating to watch it struggle these last several years. But here's hoping for a turnaround and maybe (can I dream) a cross over between Marvel and DC down the road. If anyone can do it, Feige and Gunn can make it happen!

[@IronheartvsMiles]

Black panther 1 was review bombed. Great film.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Totally agree. I think the review bombing of MCU entries started with BP 1. It moved over to Captain Marvel next and then to She-Hulk. All three have much lower audience scores than they should have. What surprised me so much is how well the audience score rated for Wakanda Forever. It is so strange to review bomb BP 1 and to give WF such a great score. I'd love to think that fans ultimately got won over by BP 1 and therefore scored WF better. Wild stuff!

[@TheMattLuigi]

I hadn't heard about the James Gunn drama until now. But it seems he's back working on Guardian'S 3. Is that true? What do you think about that?

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Great question! I'm good with it because Gunn did the right thing. He didn't defend his tweets, he said he was very sorry and he was trying to be funny at the time, but failed, and he said he's changed as a person. His entire cast got behind him and Marvel eventually rehired him. Honestly, it was the picture perfect way to come back from making a mistake in life. The tweets were terrible, but he owned up to it and I was really impressed by that. So I think it worked out for the best and am very excited about GotG Vol 3 and his chance to finish out the trilogy.

[@manmadetunao2597]

I think it’s a mix of the 2 I think this phase was needed to show marvel what the fans really want and don’t want

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes, it was definitely an experimental phase and I appreciate Marvel being willing to take some big risks. Some worked and some didn't, but Marvel definitely broke out of the mold to give us some very original content.

[@Nebula_Jones]

Rotten Tomatoes is a measure of what percentage of people liked a show/film, rather than how MUCH people liked it. iMDB score is probably a better measurement if you're trying to compare actual fan feeling towards the films and shows across the phases. Great video though!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yeah, I was really torn on what source to use for that analysis of fan reaction to Phase 4. Perhaps I should have used both RT and IMDB to really look at it. But I did find it fascinating to see the review bombing on some of the entries RT scores as well as the differences between how critics perceived the entries vs. users in general. Anyway, great comments. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts!

[@timelessturtle4779]

phase 4 was pretty good but 3 was definitely better it isn't really about the cgi but the story thats told. video idea: rank every mcu project

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Agreed, I think 4 was good, but ultimately feel 3 was better. And yeah, I've been thinking about ranking every project. Would be very interesting to see how it all plays out. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@ThatGuy-jj3kz]

Good analysis video. One thing I wished you would have gone over was the CinemaScore. The Rotten Tomatoes audience score is heavily biased, with Marvel fans being overrepresented and tipping the scale. With CinemaScore, you'll get a more balanced view of the general audience, and the scores are telling. PHASE 1 Iron Man: A The Incredible Hulk: A- Iron Man 2: A Thor: *B+* Captain America: The First Avenger: A- The Avengers: A+ PHASE 2: Iron Man 3: A Thor: The Dark World: A- Captain America: The Winter Soldier: A Guardians of the Galaxy: A Avengers: Age of Ultron: A Ant-Man: A PHASE 3: Captain America: Civil War: A Doctor Strange: A Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 2: A Spider-Man: Homecoming: A Thor: Ragnarok: A Black Panther: A+ Avengers: Infinity War: A Ant-Man and the Wasp: A- Captain Marvel: A Avengers: Endgame: A+ Spider-Man: Far From Home: A PHASE 4: Black Widow: A- Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings: A Eternals: *B* Spider-Man: No Way Home: A+ Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness: *B+* Thor: Love and Thunder: *B+* Black Panther: Wakanda Forever: A Phase 5: Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania: *B* While most will think a B+ or B is okay, in a blockbuster setting, they're not good. Phase 4 might have been alright for Marvel, but it has been a mixed bag at best in terms of critical and audience reaction. Phase 5 can't be as shakey as Phase 4 was, and hopefully, the moves Marvel makes put the MCU back on track.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yeah, cinemascore is a good way to look at overall reaction. It's a great tool. But unfortunately it doesn't have rankings for the shows, and those were an important part of the overall analysis. Also, another reason I wanted to use Rotton Tomatoes is it clearly shows the bias at play, which is helpful for looking at the way people reacted to the various entries. I will say, though, that even cinemascore is strange. How did some of those Phase 1 movies rate higher than Eternals, such as Hulk, IM2 and T:TDW. I just don't get the Eternals hate. And how did L&T rate higher than Eternals. L&T was barely watchable. Oh well, no system is perfect. But I agree, cinemascore is probably the best measuring tool for movies. Thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!

[@ThatGuy-jj3kz]

@@AbitofEverything4U I've enjoyed Eternals too, but I think the general audience reaction comes down to their taste. Marvel took a massive risk with Eternals, and we have yet to see that risk pay off. With the general audience, whether it's fair or not, they come in with expectations that are removed from MCU fans' expectations. While Eternals served the MCU expectation as well as it could have, general audiences were most likely left confused as the Eternals was too high concept, too out there for their taste. But if I could pinpoint the scene that turned off most audience members, it would have been the s*x scene on the beach. I swear I could hear everyone's skin crawling with how awkward that scene made everyone feel, and I don't think that uncomfortableness ever left most of the audience. Is it fair? No, the general audience can be just as subjective as critics and MCU fans. And while the Infinity Saga is highly rated with its string of As, I think it speaks less to the quality and more to the enjoyment of the saga. Cinemascore isn't perfect (there's no streaming alternative), but it's the best gauge to see how the movie-going public feels about the MCU movies

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Excellent analysis. That makes alot of sense. I felt that scene wasn't necessary, but it didn't bother me, per se. But it certainly wasn't something one would expect in a Marvel movie. Great feedback!

[@tjjordan4207]

If my math is correct, I believe that Marvel has spent 1.3 billion on budgets and possibly $650 million on marketing (assuming they played by the rule of thumb on paying half of what they budget is), which means that Marvel has potentially spent up to 1.950 billion on Phase 4. With this in mind, they only made 1.825 billion back (when subtracting what the studio keeps in the US and overseas all together) over the last three years in terms of theatrical releases. Granted, I'm leaving out Spider-Man: No Way Home, due to complications there. If my memory is correct, Marvel paid 25% of the film's budget, which would be $50 million, and assuming they also handling 25% of the marketing, meant that it would ultimately come to $75 million spent. After all is said and done, Marvel gets to keep close to $225 million. Taking that into account, this raises Marvel's profits to $2.050 billion but also raises the spending overall to $2.025 billion. So, ultimately, if my math is correct, Marvel has potentially made a profit of only $25 million for the last three years of the entire Phase 4 run.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Very interesting breakdown. I don't have access to those numbers, but I would agree that if you are correct on the math, then it wouldn't be too successful to only make a profit of $25M for Phase 4. That said, I don't know how much they made in other phases. I suspect Phase 3 was very profitable, but not sure on the other phases. I also don't know what they expected to make in Phase 4 and whether the $25M is good or bad in their eyes. But I do find the math very interesting either way. Thanks so much for watching the video and sharing your fascinating feedback. Really appreciate it!

[@tjjordan4207]

@@AbitofEverything4U No, problem. My math may not be entirely correct, I'm only going by what I know is to be true, so there might be factors I don't know about it. Keep up the great work on these videos. Also, I wanted to add that studios only keep 70% of US box office (possibly in Canada too) and 30% Overseas. When it comes to marketing, they put in an additional half of what the budget is. If a movie is $100 million, an additional $50 million will spent in marketing for it, secretly bringing the total spent to $150 million, making the break-even return profit to be $300 million. With that in mind, $25 million is not a good return for an overall group of films over the three years of release. However, due to Covid, this will be forgiven by Disney. By the end of the day, Phase 4 made enough to pay back what was spent, just not to be a profit.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

That makes sense. Bummer it wasn't more profitable for Marvel, but I guess it's better than losing money. Hoping for a prosperous 2023 for the MCU!

[@tjjordan4207]

@@AbitofEverything4U I did the math of how successful the previous Phases possibly were. Skipping a ton of boring stuff and the $ spent on budgets and marketing, here are the numbers I got with each Phase in terms of profit. Phase 1: $350 Million Phase 2: $379 - $500 Million (This was tricky, due to the numbers not being clear enough) Phase 3: $2.202 Billion & Phase 4: $25 Million

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Wow...that's just crazy. I wonder if Marvel didn't care since they were now making money on Disney+ as well as the movies, but that's still just insane to see those numbers for the movies.

[@icedog1588]

I feel Phase 4 stumbled a lot along the way but succeeded in bringing comic characters into live action in accurate and fun ways that make the new characters endearing, I feel like a lot of fans that don’t like this phase are having trouble letting go of the past characters and their storylines, which I understand to a point Overall though, Phase 4 and 3 have both been my favorites, but Phase 4 is higher because the world feels more established

[@AbitofEverything4U]

I think your comments are spot on. Phase 4 did alot of heavy lifting by bringing in tons of new characters and setting up lots of plot lines to be further developed in Phases 5 and 6. I was very happy with Phase 4 overall and I suspect as time goes on, people will have an even more positive opinion of it looking back. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!

[@icedog1588]

@@AbitofEverything4U Agreed, if you keep in mind that this is Phase 1 of the Multiversal Saga, then it is clear that Phase 4 was phenomenal

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@icedog1588 Exactly!

[@tenjones8069]

Gunn got fired but is still working . So what was the point

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yeah, it was a bizarre situation. I think the public reaction to some of his truly unacceptable tweets (I mean, yikes, there was some really offensive stuff in there) led Disney to have to take action. However, to his credit, Gunn apologized and owned up to the very inappropriate nature of the tweets saying he's grown as a person and is embarrassed about what he said in the past. Additionally, the entire Guardians cast supported him and that went a long way. So in the end, we went right back to where we started, but I still think the process was necessary so that people everywhere take abit more time to stop and think about what they are saying on social media. You can wreck your career down the road for ill-advised and inappropriate things that are said when you are young and trying to get a quick reaction from others. Hope that helps explain my thoughts on it. I agree, crazy situation.

[@tdog2658]

Great video! But you forgot a very important pro of phase 4

[@AbitofEverything4U]

You have piqued my curiosity! What did I miss? And thanks for the positive feedback on the video. Really appreciate it!

[@tdog2658]

@@AbitofEverything4U You missed the best pro which is that phase 4 established you as one of the best mcu youtubers out there!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@tdog2658Too funny! That gave me a good chuckle for the day. Really appreciate the kind words. I just keep chugging along!

[@tdog2658]

@@AbitofEverything4U Keep it up!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@tdog2658 Thanks!

[@Surfboarder4]

For me the MCU has been on the up the whole time. My love for the MCU has grown over time, and generally in my rankings Phase 4 > 3 > 2 > 1

[@elaiq359]

i respect your opinion but cmon man phase 4 over 3?

[@Surfboarder4]

@@elaiq359 Overall, yes. Infinity War is still the most flawless MCU Movie, but I think other movies like Civil War, and Black Panther are overrated. Thor Ragnarok is pretty good, Endgame was awesome fan service and everything else is pretty mid.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes, I agree, I think things have continued to improve over time. I do like Phase 3 abit better than 4 due to some of the Phase 4 issues with quality (story telling and CGI ) in Phase 4, but I can see your logic in putting 4 over 3 over 2 over 1.

[@Surfboarder4]

@@AbitofEverything4U I think the worst of Phase 4 is worse than the worst of phase 3, however phase 4 has a lot more really high moments for me, which is why I put it on top.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@Surfboarder4 Definitely a fair assessment of Phase 4. Well stated!

[@Gamerboy-nl3mi]

Mom: you have a test to study Me: ok The studying:

[@AbitofEverything4U]

LOL! Now that made me laugh. But oh my, don't get me in trouble with your mom...If she's anything like my mom, I may end up grounded for a week. Well, I guess I could work on more videos that way, so perhaps it isn't all bad?

[@Gamerboy-nl3mi]

@@AbitofEverything4U it was not bad at all the video was really good

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Awesome! Glad you liked it!

[@BleakEntity_29A]

Outside of rotten tomatoes scores not being perfect, I'd say phase 3 does rank higher than phase 2 does audience score wise, and that phase 4's series side ranks about as high as the movies do. Projects like 'Black Panther', 'Captain Marvel', and 'She-Hulk' dragging down scores seems to be far more due to sociopolitical controversies around those projects than the quality of the projects themselves (and many of the negative scores coming from people who didn't watch the projects), making it not entirely fair, in my opinion at least

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Well said. I agree with everything you said. If not for some of the review bombing (for very questionable reasons), then I think the audience and critic ratings would have been about the same. And I think Phase 3 would have then ranked above Phase 2 and likely above Phase 4. Great comments. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!

[@Surfboarder4]

Not sure what you mean about Gunn being fired? They clearly didn't make the right decision, given that after lots of backlash he was rehired 6 months later. A brilliant director shouldn't be cancelled for some old tweets which he apologised for.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Well, I don't want to repeat the tweets here, but if you get a second, you can check out the worst of the worst here: i.redd.it/2xvguwrtm6b11.jpg. That is some messed up stuff, especially when he talks about little boys such as in the first tweet. Yikes. Sick stuff. Disney had no choice. But I do agree that once he apologized and the cast of Guardians supported his return, then it made sense to move forward.

[@Surfboarder4]

@@AbitofEverything4U It's a pretty sick sense of humour, and is a cause for concern, however clearly his later conduct with Marvel was not problematic at all, the whole cast and feige wanted him back. I think it's a dangerous precedent if we don't allow people to change from past behaviour. Glad things worked out in the end. Other people haven't been as fortunate after getting cancelled for old posts.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@Surfboarder4 Right. Gunn did exactly what someone should do when they post terribly foolish things in their past. He said he completely understood why he was fired, he apologized profusely, he said he has changed as a person, he admitted what he posted was inappropriate, unfunny and he regretted it. That's exactly how someone should handle it. It was certainly a sick sense of humor and for what it's worth, he spoke about dealings with young children in ways that if someone actually did those things would result in felony charges and a lifetime on a sex offender registry. So it was horribly inappropriate and never should have been joked about in a public forum like twitter. Never should have been joked about ever, for that matter, but certainly not in a place where others can read it and think he therefore approves of that type of humor and/or behavior. Disney made the right call to fire him and then after he repented and got the support of his cast, they made the right decision to rehire him. It shows how someone can come back from foolish mistakes in their past. In fact, it's the textbook way that some can recover and move past those type of things. I have seen others that defended their behavior and refused to apologize and thus, they never recovered. I applaud Gunn for how he handled the situation.

[@callumdrage5889]

*Phase Four Ranked:* ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🌟 01: Black Panther: Wakanda Forever 02: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 03: WandaVision ⭐️⭐️⭐️ 04: Hawkeye 05: Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness 06: Loki ⭐️⭐️ 07: Thor: Love and Thunder 08: The Falcon and the Winter Soldier 09: Spider-Man: No Way Home 10: The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special ⭐️ 11: She-Hulk: Attorney at Law 12: Black Widow 13: What If…? 14: Eternals Haven’t Seen: Moon Knight, I Am Groot, Ms. Marvel or Werewolf by Night. Phase Four wasn’t the best, I hope Phase Five can revamp the excitement.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Great list! Thanks for sharing it. I agree, Phase 4 was rocky with the quality level varying a great deal between entries. I'm hoping that w/o the pandemic getting in the way of filming and scheduling that things can return to the consistent quality level we've seen in the past. Thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!

[@killert_7759]

For me 5 stars 1: Spider-Man: No Way Home 4.5 stars 2: Black Panther: Wakanda Forever 3: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings 4 stars 4: Thor: Love and Thunder 5: Moon Knight 6: Loki 7: WandaVision 8: Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness 9: The Falcon and the Winter Soldier 10: Hawkeye 3.5 stars 11: Eternals 12: Werewolf by Night 3 stars 13: Black Widow 2.5 stars 14: Ms. Marvel 2 stars 15: She-Hulk: Attorney at Law

[@AbitofEverything4U]

​@@killert_7759 Good list! Thanks for sharing your rankings. It's always fun to see what other MCU fans are thinking.

[@killert_7759]

@@AbitofEverything4U thanks! And I agree, seeing what other fans think is interesting

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@killert_7759 Indeed!

[@jacksonbrickmedia939]

I ❤️ agents of shield

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Totally! Watched all 7 seasons and enjoyed them all. And AoS will always have a special place in my heart for giving us amazing content in a year when the pandemic shut down the world.

[@Yolo_22]

How is ms marvel better than Loki and Wanda vision and even falcon and winter soldier

[@AbitofEverything4U]

My guess is that the critics really liked the representation it provided. It was fantastic in sharing information about the Muslim culture and the Pakistan/India Partition. But I agree, it should not have gotten a score that high. If nothing else the villains were completely forgettable.

[@oliverqueen474]

Even though many of the movies themselves failed, Phase 4 accomplished it’s goal and I’d say that it was a success.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes, I have the same feeling about it as well. And I think that once fans that weren't happy with it have a chance to see just how much Phase 4 set up storylines for Phases 5 and 6, then they will look on it more fondly.

[@MegaRayquaza260]

I know a lot of people out there disagree but I think phase 4 is really good, almost as good as phase 3. We've had a few projects that weren't great, but that still had at least some good parts to them. To me phase 4 has 100% been a success and phase 5 is looking to be even greater.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Totally agree. It's funny, I was actually nervous to say I liked Phase 4 and even more nervous to say that I ranked it right after Phase 3. I honestly thought I'd get a ton of angry comments. But in reality, there have only been a few people that feel Phase 4 was a failure, which is of course a valid opinion since it is all based on personal preference. But it's been so refreshing to see that most people have felt the same thing that you said. Phase 4 had some rough spots, but overall it was a success. And I totally agree that it has made me all the more excited for Phase 5 as we see some of the storylines coming together. Thanks as always for your great commentary. Really appreciate it!

[@johnman8398]

The expectations about the illuminati I feel were a bit too exaggerated as they only had one scene in the trailer so the assumption that they'd be super involved is a bit strange and unless you are a comic fan you wouldn't really think too much of their lack of screentime. All the wandavision expectations however were mostly on the fans I'm ngl, almost every theory about that show veered to far from the point of the show which is about wanda. People saw quicksilver and jumped to conclusions when if you actually questioned what was going on its make no sense for him to be the one from the fox movies. I just saw it as a fun tease of the mutants coming later down the line in the MCU. Mephisto was 100% the fans fault, I had 0 idea about it being a thing until I actually looked it up and the evidence was almost always flimsy and again a case of comic fans jumping to conclusions, with quicksilver thing I could understand somewhat the disappointment but this is just ridiculous. Kingpin is a case of characters being altered when going to another character's show. Like for example Dr Strange in NWH losing to Spider-Man and being trapped, it's not his movie so Spider-Man has to win and he can't be as competent as he usually is. I won't begrudge anyone being put off by his portrayal I just wanted to give my take on this. Love of Thunder I disagree that the humour was any worse than Ragnarok as if you go back to that movie its even more of a jokefest than LOT at least the same level. It's just Thor and friends vs his sister the movie. I just feel if we are gonna critique LOT for the amount of humour we should do the same for ragnarok, though I will admit that there is more tonal dissonance in LOT than in ragnarok but that's a different argument. As for the whole multiverse thing I personally didn't have any expectations from the movie aside from it being hyped up as a more scary mcu movie which I think it lived up to as wanda was straight up freaky but outside of that nothing else so him not travelling to 100 universes never really bothered me.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Good feedback. It could well be that fans are more responsible for taking theories in the wrong place and therefore setting up their own disappointment. You certainly gives some great examples of why that may be the case. Either way, I am really glad Marvel put the smack down on the Dr. Doom rumors so we could go into Wakanda Forever and avoid looking for hints about Doom in every scene. If nothing else, Marvel has realized the importance of watching social media and doing what it can to address false expectations early on. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. I really enjoy the dialogue with other MCU fans and this was great commentary!

[@lucasalen7914]

I think Phase 3 is obviously the best, because it was the conclusion to that great story told across multiple movies over a decade. Then Phase 4 because Marvel diversified a lot in genres, cultures and ways of telling stories, of course they didn't get it right every time but overall Phase 4 has more good things than the big part of the fans say. Then Phase 1 because it was a really cool and round start with the Avengers, I really like those movies, even Thor and I think it's the worst MCU movie/project. And finally Phase 2, because I think Cap 2, Ant-Man and Guardians were amazing but the other three were very disappointing films for what they could have been, and it seems to me that all Phases of the Infinity Saga had a great conclusion, except Phase 2.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Great comments. I think your logic for ranking the Phases makes alot of sense. Can't wait to see where things go from here into Phases 5 and 6. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!

[@lucasalen7914]

@@AbitofEverything4U Just to add, I also enjoyed the various directions that Phase 4 took and I think it's okay that it doesn't have a big conclusion just like Phase 2, it's not time to that because we've just seen the end of the Infinity Saga, for me the big conclusion that everyone wants to see will only happen in Phase 6 with the next Avengers movies, because it looks like Phase 5 will also follow the same direction as Phase 4 of having multiple paths in the story, continuing them and preparing the ground for Phase 6, and I'm sure fans will speak highly of Phase 5 even if it's the same think as Phase 4 and has the same level of quality, just because it's not the Phase that came after the big boom in Phase 3. And Phase 7 could suffer the same thing, especially if Marvel continues to expand the directions of the MCU, and the variety of characters from other cultures unless they put the X-Men movie there.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Yes, excellent points. I think both Phase 5 and Phase 6 will greatly benefit from the heaving lifting Phase 4 has done to set up lots of great plot threads. Will be interesting to see if Feige is already thinking about how to avoid a letdown when Phase 7 gets started. It will be hard to imagine what could come after Secret Wars and how insanely amazing that movie will be. But they have now had some experience in dealing with how to start up the next Phase after a monster movie like Endgame.

[@lucasalen7914]

@@AbitofEverything4U Exactly! And also, I don't think there's anything bigger than this saga, sure we're going to have the X-Men, Doctor Doom and a lot of amazing stories to follow in the next saga and beyond, but this saga is insane, we saw something kind of cosmic with Thanos and the Stones in the Infinity Saga, and now we jump right into Kang with time travel, other universes and all that madness with old Marvel actors returning in the Multiverse Saga, of course the next saga can be better than the Multiverse Saga, and that won't be too difficult if another pandemic doesn't happen between Phase 6 and 7, and I hope it doesn't., but bigger than that is only if Marvel makes a crossover with DC hahaha.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

@@lucasalen7914 Yes, it's going to be very hard to top Secret Wars. Will be great to see the X-men, Dr. Doom, Fantastic 4, etc in Phase 7 but it will be very hard to avoid a Phase 4 emotional drop-off. I do have hopes for a DC crossover though. If James Gunn can right the DC ship then maybe in a few years we get the epic crossover we'd all love to see!

[@scottking8189]

Honestly feel like I could talk about this for ages (and I do in your comments) but in my eyes I’m not a fan of these movies anymore. No particular reason I just think IF and endgame were great endings for a franchise I occasionally watched. However I have continued to watch most of the projects so I can critique them and applaud them without just listening to people online. This phase has had a lot to deal with and I think that was a road bump they’ve now realised. They need to go slower, get a bit more creative and make some lower budget projects. Werewolf by night and guardians holiday special are up there for me and the other shows that try something unique are good but they don’t usually stay good through the entire series. I think a lot of channels and viewers have this thing where they only speak positively on a show while it’s releasing same with the movies but then once they get some time away from it they start to acknowledge all the issues. Like sure the shehulk finale was an interesting idea but it just added more questions than it answered

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Very good commentary. I can understand how you felt Phase 3 was the high mark and that Phase 4 hasn't been able to achieve that level again. I'm glad you are sticking with the MCU and still giving it a chance as I think Phases 5 and 6 will be amazing after all the heavy lifting Phase 4 did. Also, I agree that some channels are overly positive about everything and some are overly negative about everything. I try to be honest about my feelings and especially when I did the rankings for Phase 4, I was pretty open about what I did and didn't like. I do feel overall that Phase 4 was a success, but it had many issues it needs to address as we move to the next Phase. Thanks so much for the excellent commentary and sharing your feelings about the phase. Always appreciate hearing how you feel as you give very honest feedback about things and I really enjoy the dialogue!

[@scottking8189]

@@AbitofEverything4U hey I just like watching a channel that reads all their comments and interacts with his audience, I’d be very out of the loop without this channel

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Great to hear that. Yeah, I love reading all the comments. It's great to learn from other MCU fans that care as much about what's happening as I do.

[@CC-yx2rt]

Maybe this is just speculation, but I’m wondering if fans just don’t like seeing female leads. Obviously not all of the productions with female leads were rated low, though, so this may not be the full reason.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

I definitely think that was some of the issue. And taking that point a step further, I suspect it is the strong willed female leads that bother some people the most. So Captain Marvel and She-Hulk get lower ratings than Ms. Marvel or Black Widow. Not that Ms. Marvel and Black Widow aren't strong willed characters (Natasha can be fiercely strong willed) but I do think Captain Marvel and She-Hulk just rubbed some the wrong way more than the others did. Personally, I enjoyed them both so I don't understand why people feel that way, but I do see that alot in the negative comments of people that rate them lower. Just a guess on my part though.

[@Surfboarder4]

There hasn't really been a dip in quality for me for phase 4, I'm not in the crowd calling for less projects. I think they just need to get ahead a little bit more. Maybe a 2-3 year turnaround should be more like a 3-4 turnaround from greenlight to release. Gaps in content of multiple months, or 3+ months like between no way home and moon knight I'm not a fan of. We shouldn't really ever have more than a 2 month gap.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Right! I don't want them to cut back on content. They just need to give things the proper time to be completed appropriately. I think they made the right choice on Blade, for instance. If something isn't ready, then push it back and get it right. I think we will see an improvement as we move into Phase 5.

[@thequiet5727]

You should make a video on what the 616 Illuminati team would look like!

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Very interesting idea. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@pablo8524]

can you talk about the animated spider-verse movies

[@AbitofEverything4U]

That's an interesting idea. Especially with the new one coming out before long, there should be lots to discuss. The first one was really good!

[@mosdefinitelynot]

Why does Black Panther have such a low audience score???

[@AbitofEverything4U]

IKR? It's so weird for BP's RT audience score to be low and then for Wakanda Forever to be so high on the audience score. My gut feel would be that BP experienced some mild review bombing from people that didn't like the diversity, but then it doesn't explain the very high score that Wakanda Forever received. Or maybe people that didn't like the diversity in the first movie have come to like it over time? If that's the case, then that's very cool. Regardless, I agree it is very strange.

[@luckyducky9669]

critics were not harsh with a 64 on Love and Thunder they were generous edit and i think audience nailed the she-hulk ranking ngl

[@AbitofEverything4U]

I can definitely respect you feeling that way on She-Hulk. I suspect some fans even think 33 is too high for that series. Hoping when she next appears that she gets a better reception. I think she will be a fantastic character going forward. And yeah, I do agree about Love and Thunder. It was really rocky due to the silly humor.

[@Loosetext]

20:11 I felt this in my bones! The frustration is real! Haha

[@AbitofEverything4U]

LOL! Too funny. Yeah, just drives me crazy. I like things to be organized and the lack of effort put into informing the creative teams of the timeline is just so bizarre. Ugh!

[@Loosetext]

I 100 percent agree! If you could interview to be their official time keeper, that would be great.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

Oh, man, please give me just 1 hour with the timeline keeper. I'd love to pick their brain and understand the Marvel creative process in regards to the timeline. It could be handled so much better w/o that much effort, I suspect. Oh well, hopefully Phase 5 improves. And here's wishing you a Happy New Year!

[@pablo8524]

I think marvel lied abt the timekeeper

[@AbitofEverything4U]

IKR? Like that dude is getting paid to basically sit around and do nothing. Must be nice!

[@kevinturley4943]

It was boring and they really need to bring something important in phase 5. They need to alter the plan because it sucks right now.

[@AbitofEverything4U]

I can definitely understand why you would feel that way. It was hard to understand where Phase 4 was leading as it was mostly disconnected stories. But I think you are right that Phase 5 will start coming together and will make the stories in Phase 4 have alot more meaning. At least that's my hope. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!