was ordering these plants a mistake? Plus, a BIG rant.

Hello! So.... someone may have made a mistake ordering plants... and you get to see all of it. There is a big rant in the video and I thought about cutting it out, since it does sound like I am complaing about something small as a plant ordering gone wrong... but I decided to leave it in. It is time you knew Miro rants, and complains a lot.
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[@elisabethak9502]

I’m so glad someone is finally saying what needed to be said long time ago! Before buying plants online, read the ‘fine print’ carefully and if it states anything like”don’t repot for a certain amount of time”, I always contact the seller before I make the purchase to let them know my concern with that and if they’re absolutely unwilling to be flexible, I won’t buy. Someone else will get my money instead. I hope it’ll work out!

[@BasiePlants]

Right? I mean okay, I won't repot plants upon arrival. Don't send me rotten plants in wet soil xD But if you do, I am surely not going to look at my $30 plant and wait for it to die when I can clearly do something about it.

[@gaelliaigre6759]

I had a very bad experience with this east European reseller. They sent me hoyas with no more living roots left in completely bone dry sphag. They import their hoyas and orchids from a nursery in Taiwan I know and resell them immediately. They ask you to acclimate the plants slowly in 2/3 days and when you contact them 3 days after the arrival of the parcel to claim, they throw you to hell saying that should have claimed within 12 hours ! They are swindlers.

[@mwoods4608]

chop n prop

[@notgojo491]

So you mean the basic info, the commin sense ones? You need someone told hold your hand that much?

[@betsybegonia]

I like that button-down shirt and your funky hair style together. It's a vibe.

[@BasiePlants]

It is the 90's hairstyle, I feel.

[@TrishsOrchidLife]

The same can be said about orchids. Sending orchids, like Hoya, soaked, can cause damage and then they become rescues. The positive side of Hoya is you can at least try to restart the plant….although many times not successfully with such damage as the one you received 😢🌸

[@elenacutting493]

I watched this video a couple of times before, watching it for the third time now... Totally agree with everything you are saying! The saddest part of all, for me, is to see how good the Hoya was before it was shipped 😭 I received a shipment not too long ago, they all were soaked wet and triple wrapped in plastic! Triple! I got them in 8 days... I still could tell they were big and exactly what I wanted (before this shipment), out of 4 Hoyas I ordered, I could only recover 2 of them, by making cuttings, the other two were too small to take a cutting and didn't make it... Thanks, Miro, for your videos! love them all! P.S. one of my favorites is "don't underwater these Hoyas" , can you , please, make a video about high light and lower light Hoyas? Takes forever to research this topic.... Once again, thanks for everything!!!!!!

[@szollosilaszlo7194]

Those hoyas are coming from Taiwan originally and they are sold by the nursery. So they receive only a general maintaining (watering) before they're sold.

[@BasiePlants]

Yes, I know they are recent imports :) I always thought they are most likely from the Thailand nursery, Aleya, and then resold in the EU. (though I am not sure where from verticillata (Tanggamus) and waymanie (Kapuas) originally came from, but most likely Thailand/ Indonesia). It makes the price good but it is a shame there isn't a bit more maintentance/ care involved, even if that means a slightly higher price.

[@andy0995]

I think all the Hoya Verticillata Tanggamus and Lampung are a mixed match and confusing. As far as I know, Tanggamus is a part of Lampung city. And I've encountered 2 different venations. The most popular one is the one that you've shown on the picture preference.

[@paulinema5151]

I just experienced the same thing. Bought again from a big nursery that I had previous issues with. But since it was one of those 'you get what you see' on the listing, I thought it'd be ok. Big mistake as the plant I received is significantly damaged (i.e. broken leaves, missing plant sections, dried out growth tips, yellowing leaves). Hopefully we both get our orders resolved.

[@annettearrington957]

Thank you, Miro!

[@karenb136]

I wish you the best on the recovery. They should not be in the business since it’s obvious they don’t know what they’re doing. On a happy note, you look so good in that blue shirt with the palm trees. Really shows off your hair. Have a good week Miro. 🌱💚🌱

[@BasiePlants]

Thanks Karen! Well, everyone who works makes mistakes. But I think if you had a shop for over 3 years, you really should not send plants wet. It is understandable if something damages in the post, gets lost, etc, but this is a bit different in my opinion. Especially since I know that not only my verticillata arrived like that, but more of them.

[@lookatthatleaf]

I have had good success cutting off essentially all of the stem up to the petioles, the petioles can give off roots if in contact with substrate. The substrate I used for the situation with a silver dollar hoya was Treefern fiber. I actually had to carve a little bit upward, there is actually a little concave hole where the stem was supposed to be, but the petioles rooted. I am waiting for a growth to show up but the rooting did ok without a stem

[@robynross8524]

i had a company tell me that i wasn't supposed to repot my hoya for 4-6 weeks...but 2 of them came with root rot, so I chopped them in hopes that I could save it. I am still waiting for them to root. The company didn't even offer a new plant in its place!

[@maureengraney7363]

Just adding another thank you for saying this. I’ve lost some really expensive hoya due to this. I was happy to hear you rant out loud. I usually rant to myself as I’m digging it out of the musty mix. Just lost a $70+ viola that weighed about 5lbs when it arrived soaked😢.

[@elisechase979]

Thank you for all your videos. I absolutely love them. I only discovered your channel 2 weeks ago but you are the reason that my Hoya mitrata and hoya mitrata are not only surviving but actually striving and push out new leaves. So much knowledge on this channel. It's not good for my hoya shopping list though... My Hoya collection grew immensely the last 2 weeks LOL

[@growingmyserotonin]

Couldn't agree with you more on your rant haha. I kept going "Right?! Exactly!" to the computer screen 😂 And I also talk through arguments before they happen... No judgement here

[@Alizardlovesyou]

“I may not have had friends, but I knew about plants…” Okay, personally attacked :D

[@BasiePlants]

Hahaha 😂 I attacked us both :D

[@ewakowalska5592]

mech można wsadzać do semihydro, do hydroponiki i do mieszanek glebowych i prosperuje bardzo dobrze. Tylko nie należy go z wierzchu przykrywać. wszystkie hoya sadzę z mchem i nigdy mi nic nie zagniło w żadnej uprawie ani w hydroponice ani w mieszance glebowej

[@betsybegonia]

It makes me crazy when people ship Hoyas in sopping wet peat. I can save a dried out Hoya, but over watering is certain death.

[@BasiePlants]

This was next level wetness, but you heard all about that 😂

[@betsybegonia]

@@BasiePlants That's what she said.

[@TeaTea.]

Its almost like that nursery sends them off soaking or full of pests on purpose because they know it'll be hard for you to try and get your money back and fight them on it

[@mwoods4608]

they figure they send out dead plants, people will want to replace them n will end up ordering from them again. I almost feel like costa does that too, or at least the big box stores- over water until they are soaked

[@1nflightradi0]

I have a pretty good inkling as to what nursery you're talking about and have ordered multiple times from them. Mind you, I'm in Belgium so shipping is rather quick for me so I never had rotting issues (but then again I also don't wait 30 days to repot....) but I have received plants from them that were infected with thrips twice. I was an inexperienced plant enthusiast at the time so I did not notice this for a while the first time. However, the 2nd time I did notice immediately and contacted them. The answer? "I'm sure you are experienced enough to successfully get rid of them". 💀No suggestion for a refund, no apologies, nothing. So I will never order from them again, it's a shame though because they have a great selection.

[@EnchantedwithPoodles]

I didn’t hear a word you said. Just kidding. Your mic sounds great.

[@amandacountryman8024]

I need more 'rant Miro' cause I say the same things and love that someone else feels my pain!!!!

[@michaelkerley452]

I wish you had made this sooner. Half of the order I just got in were not just sent to me in wet sopping moss but are obviously imports that were not even given time to rehab. I don't even think rerooting is going to save them. I am sorry for your experience, it totally bites. The Joy is beautiful!

[@cindyvan635]

You totally have a right to be upset, they obviously don't care about the plants, or the customers!!! Hope you can remedy this❤🌱 The Joy is gorgeous!!!!❤🌱❤🌱

[@mikaheslop7928]

I tend to ignore the growers instructions regarding repotting. I have saved many Hoya and some aroids repotting immediately. Love your channel and look forward to your videos❤

[@BasiePlants]

Exactly! Same thing here. There were many times when plant looked fine and I started to repot it and discovered that 2/3 of the roots and stem were rotten.

[@NelliSmith]

I call dibs on buying one! 😂 Awesome job guys! My anthurium villenaorum is my favorite and best growing anthurium!

[@AngelaBernard-or9dg]

Very very informative. You started out quite the comedian and ended up at the other end. I have had that happened to me. Especially when ordering from overseas. It is the season to start ordering and I am very learry about where to order from. I am learning how to care for my hoya through you and other learned plant people. Mostly from you I will say. Most of my hoya are growing and actually one will bud soon. I am so thankful for you advice. When ever, if at all, you ship to USA let me know.

[@BasiePlants]

Sadly, I can't ship outside of Serbia at all. But I hope to be able to have my own little hoya store one day :) I completely understand you - ordering from abroad is always a gamble. Honestly, I still have never ordered from SE Asia because it is so expensive and the risk is so big.

[@sherryporsch9349]

Good luck with the Hoya an hoping the shop takes responsibility for sending it soaking wet with rot. I just got a Spartinoides an the add said, rooted well it wasn’t. Grrrr 😡💚💚💚

[@paigemcmaster5040]

I have the same issue with big nurseries and pests. The moment you bring up pests in a nursery you get the age old "all nurseries have pests!". While that may be true, you should not be sending me a plant that has so many pests it's a major outbreak or has serious pest damage. Don't send plants with known pests.

[@BasiePlants]

True! Pests happen to anyone but... if it is VERY obvious, come on. XD That is only good if you send pests unintentionally. I mean, I once saw a post here where a buyer complained about a seller - it was about a mealybug-infested croton and I mean ABSOLUTELY infested, cannot be missed, so many white spots - and the seller was like... that is how they arrive to me. That is a new variety. 💀

[@grounded_by_plants]

So sad, but this is way too common. I have received wet plants way too many times. I never reorder for nurseries that do this.

[@cherie7100]

Sometimes repotting isn't optional. Specially when the soil they come in is just plain awful! I brought a Ficus Shivereana and within 10 days it was dead. The leaves had clear signs of pest damage. I quarantined and left it...signs of spider mites started to show on the leaves...I got a 20% partial refund...I decided to repot and treat for pests and it just went into decline. The leaves started to dry up even though it had been watered. The roots oddly looked fine...however the leaves fell off. Then the stem grew white fuzz...mould...mealybugs? I wasn't taking the chance and out it went. I would rather receive dry soil than wet soil. One plant took a week to dry out. I prefer to receive bare root where possible then no crusty musty soil to deal with.

[@BasiePlants]

Yes. Sometimes really there is nothing else to do but repot as soon as possible. I am sorry to hear about your Ficus :( Luckily, that plant seems to be more common now and I love it! I actually hope they start selling it here soon, I cannot wait to get one for me

[@cherie7100]

@@BasiePlants Maybe now isn't the right time for me to have one as that was the 2nd one which turned out to be from the same company! One had brought the other out but they trade under different websites! I was not impressed in the slightest.

[@karenmyers9146]

On the positive side your Dean McDowell looks marvelous. Sorry about your hoya. Might have been different if it arrived sooner. Do you let your pon dry out completely?

[@suvivirtanen8242]

Such a nice positive ending!

[@sheilacasper2030]

So sad. Poor plant. I feel your pain. That damn nursery…

[@BasiePlants]

Let's hope they will be okay :)

[@OGreenHeart]

@Miro, I would cut this stem above the rot even if it is close to node and I would root it in perlite (after drying the wound). It is a good method for hoya's cuttings with short stem and thick. Good luck :)

[@BasiePlants]

It is not vissible in the video, but the epidermis around the node is also peeling off. So I am pretty sure it is done :) I have rooted several hoyas before that were cut just under the node - in fact, that is the case with my regular Hoya waymaniae, and she is fine now. But that one still had a viable node.

[@OGreenHeart]

So said, I would talk to the seller then for refund…

[@lisakutzki8458]

A new video from Miro! 🎉

[@susanjohnson5824]

The Joy Hoya is beautiful

[@BasiePlants]

She really bounced back!

[@mylenebill4572]

Let’s not use the word moist especially in a sentence like “she is moist”, because the visual image in my head is definitely not of a plant. 😂

[@TheGoblinMogra]

Me watching the shake-and-squeeze method of potting: *gasp* you f#@king genius!

[@deborahmcsweeney3349]

Good info!! Thank you!

[@mwoods4608]

your hair tho!!🎉🎉

[@walle5667]

Ou, that sucks hard. I would be sooo disappointed. I hope you get/ got a positive response and will get reimbursed for the rotten plant. I usually only buy cuttings from private collectors in Germany. It means short travels with little damage, even if the cutting was packaged louzy. However, most seem to care about their plants and they all arrived in really good conditions. But, of course, this also limits the selection quite a bit. As we say in German: You have to die one death :)

[@BasiePlants]

Well, sadly, I can't do that here, as I have the biggest collection in Serbia xD I wish I could! Yet no one seems to be crazy enough about hoyas xD

[@r3i2x]

I recognized the cutting, does it came all the way from R? 😂😅

[@BasiePlants]

Maybe xD

[@r3i2x]

Hahaha 😆

[@lorenagalant1386]

Pozdrav iz Hrvatske,iz Istre.Interesira me da li se može kod Vas kupiti hoye? Kako mogu stupiti u kontakt sa Vama preko messengera?

[@gypsylee333]

That Dean is so beautiful and big!!

[@BasiePlants]

He is! :D He is also a big spidermite magnet 😂

[@gypsylee333]

@@BasiePlants I don't THINK I've ever had those yet, occasionally a plant looks dusty I'll hit it with that insecticidal soap just in case lol. I was eyeing getting a baby Dean McDowell but it might take up too much space hmm 😅 way cuter than the gloriosum IMO.

[@crochetqueen6440]

Hi Miro!~ I feel your pain, I just did a trade with someone who I love dearly, but she sent peperomia, really thin leaved peperomia, completely soaking and these thin leaves against the moisture - And these plants were only in the mail overnight. I'm so glad it wasn't longer. I hope you manage to get a refund. Keep that cool, we attract more flies with honey and all that. Random question - do you find that hoya work their way out of pon over time? I find any plant I don't trellis will get higher and higher in the pot and if I don't notice it right away we get roots drying out etc.. Do you have this issue, and do you have a solution? Of course bury it deeper but that isn't always an option based on stem length etc. Any suggestions? Thanks~!

[@BasiePlants]

I am sorry to hear about your peperomia! I hope she does well. That reminds me of one time when I ordered Peperomia 'Hope' that was thrown into a box without anything else and it arrived hopeless. Hm, I can't say I noticed the hoya going up in the pot. Maybe the pon is getting away through the drainage holes over time? I think it is not a huge issue when they develop big root system that goes all the way down.

[@anascrazylife7209]

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[@itsmackenzie5761]

newbie here I've been binge watching your hoya content this past week and every video makes me giggle. It's a lot of fun to listen to you while doing my own plant chores.. oh and I just bought three new hoya cuttings after watching your videos so much.

[@BasiePlants]

Welcome! :D I am glad you are enjoying the videos :) What hoyas did you buy?

[@itsmackenzie5761]

@@BasiePlants only the classics so far. A Hoya crimson princess and Hoya crimson queen and a Mathilde. I do have a problem with the crimson princess though 😔. The seller rooted the cuttings in a literal coco cube 😱 I don't dare remove the plant from it. I don't want to damage the roots.

[@BasiePlants]

@@itsmackenzie5761 Oh sorry for that! I hate when they root hoyas like that. You can't remove it without damaging the roots. I would wait for the plant to grow and then I would take a cutting and root it again as a separate plant. I hope this helps :)

[@hellandbackbaby3442]

WHEN YOU SAID STH IN HUNGARIAN I THOUGHT THOSE WERE MY INNER VOICES TELLING ME TO STUDY INSTEAD OF WATCHING KZbin

[@BasiePlants]

Hahahaha :D I will take that as a compliment XD

[@marsf4883]

Boo, that sucks. Plant mail is so fun to receive, but when you receive the plants in bad shape it really does piss you off. Not cool at all. Humph!

[@TheC3.]

Any update on the rotted little friend? Did it live?

[@BasiePlants]

If you are asking about the H.verticillata from the video, no, it was beyond any rescue, the node was rotten :)

[@TheC3.]

@@BasiePlants I am sorry… I was keeping my fingers crossed for the little fella.

[@daliauribe701]

This is something that bothers me a lot, plants are not just a business, they are living beings and we must do it with respect and responsibility, it's not just receiving money and I don't care how they arrive! If we buy them, it is because we love them and we want to take care of them for the only reason that they make us happy and convey a lot of emotions, at least that is my case. I'm sorry, I was startled to see how your plants sent you. They ask us to be careful with the transplant but they send them without the necessary care.

[@TheQueensWish]

Yikes!

[@OneMoreGreenPlant]

🌿💚🌿💚🌿

[@avaf1084]

Sorry, Miro. It's always a risk. Can you import yourself?

[@amandacountryman8024]

Miro! I need help identifying bugs I keep getting on my Hoya's new growth! You are the only person I trust on the You Tubes! Is there any way I could email you some pictures??? I'm your biggest fan, and I promise I won't be a weird stalker person. Just 1 email and possibly a response. That's it. Love from Washington State, USA ❤️

[@lilicrussh]

Hahaha, édes istenem 😂😂😂

[@BasiePlants]

#1 rule to learning a new language: first learn to be dramatic 😂

[@PlantedInRI]

Please rant. Say it out loud. Shout it out loud. Jeez o pete the hoyas I have received from sellers who should know what they're doing, but clearly don't, is shocking. Start of public list of sellers from whom you shoudn't buy - a "not recommended" list. I have names...

[@latilati1]

😊 oh ezek a viràgok

[@BasiePlants]

Most látod, hogyan néz ki, amikor virágok nem szállítanak jól 🙈

[@PD-jamp]

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