Was Steven Avery The Real Murderer? | Murder: Did They Do It? | Beyond Crime

Putting the accused centre stage and we invite you to play the jury. Examining the case of a man who was sentenced to death for a murder he denied committing. This episode is about the wrongful conviction of Steven Avery and his release followed by his conviction for murder.
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[@gypsynikki]

Why is Penny STILL being interviewed. Steven was PROVEN Innocent concerning her case!

[@Boo-dawg.]

It has to be done if they want to tell his whole story. It started with Penny. He's a pig, and all the money in the world won't stop him from his need to attack and kill women. Don't take up for these pigs. When you have a record for this type of crime, you're guilty until proven otherwise. That's what they get for being evil.

[@heleneseri4173]

She should have served some time for accusing him. He lost many years of his life. When you accuse someone, be very very sure and careful. Theres a big difference between petty crimes and being a rapist.

[@amina-pr8xt]

I wonder why Kratz is interviewed who was disgraced long time ago

[@cardiffgal3690]

She should have been charged

[@Free-Thinker]

@@amina-pr8xt agree, he is a horrible person with a sexual predator history

[@mcbrain79]

This case is the bigggest bullshit i have ever seen

[@Mandola-Jane]

All his cases. The way they were handled

[@elel4284]

he did commit some of his crimes including his last crime killing teresa

[@gypsynikki]

His family didn’t do him any favors, but his nephew was obviously coached and is intellectually challenged, his confession should have never been accepted

[@Synthpoptroubadour]

He wasn’t coached

[@TheDantheman12121]

Yeah steven avery I was always kind of on the fence but leaning towards innocent but Dassey got royally screwed over.

[@Synthpoptroubadour]

@@TheDantheman12121 Stephen killed her, and his nephew took part they’re both where they belong

[@wuteva34]

The Reid technique of interrogation should never be used on a child let alone a child with an IQ of about 40.

[@alexmacaulay9550]

​@@Synthpoptroubadouraye he was and he has mental problems what person spins them a lot of pish then wonders what time hes going back to school

[@theimax1]

I wonder how much input Manitowoc county cops and prosecutors had in this one sided program. Corruption seems to be rife

[@cradames]

They found most of the "evidence" when they were not supposed to be there. They found the key after 8 previous searches did not if thst tells you anything. The sheriff's wife he "attacked" was his cousin and there was history there. I doubt that ever happened as well. Robberies yeah he prob did that imo

[@patheticcircus3774]

Amen

[@seame3795]

So who killed her then?

[@TheeRiverGoat]

It takes a special kind of stupid to think Avery is innocent of killing TH

[@Asht-mj4wy]

@@seame3795 most likely suspect is Bobby dassey

[@wyattblackwood3927]

When I hear a prosecutor saying that they've never lost a case what I hear is somewhere along the way an innocent person is sitting in prison. A prosecutor's job is not to fight for justice, a prosecutor's job is to win and that's all they care about.

[@RavensFanJ]

I mean, yes. Defense lawyers work the exact same way. You think OJ's lawyers didn't believe he was guilty deep down? Lol That's how our justice system works. Each side is supposed to be given the best chance to tell their story and make it believable. Then a jury decides who to believe.

[@wyattblackwood3927]

@@RavensFanJ I would rather see 10 guilty people go free than one innocent person go to prison. Prosecuting someone of a crime that you know is innocent is a heinous miscarriage of justice and unacceptable, all because prosecutors look at their conviction average like a baseball player looks at his batting average.

[@RavensFanJ]

@wyattblackwood3927 So maybe you just have a problem with the way our justice system works. It would be terrible if a prosecutor or defense attorney at some point in the trial just went, "You know what, he is innocent/guilty!" And just give up on their client or prosecuting an accused. The way it works right now might not always please everyone, but at least everyone's doing the job without letting their personal feelings outweigh the case. It's not up to them to decide innocence or guilt. That's the jury's job.

[@ashpal1484]

$36 million lawsuit is why the state wrongfully convicted Steven, fabricated evidence, withheld information and didn’t pursue any other suspects. Poor Brendan made things a hell of a lot harder for himself and Steve. Looking and Steve’s mother through the documentary is especially heartbreaking. May her soul rest in peace.

[@NC-ck5oj]

nonsense. the evidence of guilt is overwhelming. it was a good show though

[@RealRagnar816]

No he wanted 36 million doesn’t mean he’d get close to that.

[@jennifermarshall4780]

I totally agree with you on everything you said. I think they had to take him out because he was Steven’s alibi. They can take out that plant evidence. I think they fabricated evidence and more. I mean look at the powerful men that were being deposed? It wasn’t just that they could lose money. They would’ve lost their jobs reputations everything! They weren’t going to let that happen, so I think they were watching him for a long time. He should’ve left until the civil suit was finished! Unfortunately his love for his parents keep him there, but if he had left for a while, he could’ve taken care of his family forever with $36 million. I think that maybe the Avery bill maybe part of it. I think it was a huge plan. That kept him engaged. I think they should be locked up and giving a lie detector test and questions and all kinds of things because I think each and everyone of them were involved you know the cop who wasn’t even supposed to be on the property but when he got there, the key magically turned up. He has a lot to do with the planting and cover-up. I guarantee it.

[@jennifermarshall4780]

I have been in this industry for 26 years and I’ve seen stuff that would make your head spin false confessions, planted evidence corruption of the Ying Yang including prosecutors, judges, police! Yep it’s pretty interesting and you don’t think it’s possible? I think they took put his alibi. That fire that they talked about would not have burned a body because people don’t realize how hard it is to burn a body or to get rid of one. It is not simple. You have to be extremely intelligent to do that kind of stuff we’re talking serial killer mentality not Brendan Dassey and Steve Avery mentality. All the sophistication and all of this stuff that was done I guarantee is not those two individuals. But it does remind me of a few other people the men being deposed the officer involved, and I watched all of them lie, and when you tell one lie, then you have a lot more to lie about, believe me they’re all liars Steven is never lied he said I did I was not involved in this I believe that Desi got railroaded into a complete nonsensical story because he’s 16 years old plus he has a lower IQ so I don’t think you understand that either people that aren’t equipped to handle that kind of stress and don’t have the IQ to deal with. It are very different human beings. Think of it is like an autistic person being questioned there’s no way they could handle that and Brandon is basically Etchberger, so yeah he didn’t know how to even spell detective, yeah I don’t think these two unsophisticated individuals could’ve pulled any of this off I mean people are like whatever crusher why didn’t they crash the car? Yeah those are the things they didn’t know they could’ve done that but they didn’t have the car to crush it was put on their property. It’s called fabrication in planted evidence and it happens.

[@moo-z137]

@@jennifermarshall4780 The fire: he wanted to have another fire Thur night but Barb wouldn't allow her kids to go because she saw Dassey's bleached jeans. The fire and Dassey was his alibi. Why didn't he use them? He didn't, in a fact, he completely distanced himself from the crime. He told the Detectives he was in his trailer by 9, that's when Jodi called but listen to the calls. He's spitting the entire time and he also asks where his pop is ... "Oh, it's in the golf kart." Why did he say he didn't have a fire that night? Why did he tell 3 people that Teresa didn't arrive? Why did he change his story so many times, for example, about Teresa being out there and about the cut on his hand? You're seeing what you want to see. The crusher? He couldn't crush it while his brothers were around. Notice one thing about the vehicle; mostly that the wheels are covered and that's because the wheels are to be removed.

[@TheDarkhorsePurge]

"There were certain things in Brendan Dasseys confession that rang true" yeah because the cops were pretty much telling him what happened, like the fact that Teresa was shot they fed him information.

[@susansolano171]

Can you please explain how the police knew how TH died? They hadn't found her remains when Brendan confessed

[@TheDarkhorsePurge]

@Susan Solano The "remains" they found were moved to Steven Averys fire pit, meaning they were planted on his property.

[@kingayy9267]

@Susan Solano If they didn't have her remains, how could they know whether or not Brendan was telling the truth? Not that they cared, as long as they had a body to arrest at the time.

[@kingayy9267]

@Susan Solano An interrogation tactic used by detectives is to ask a suspect how they _think_ the crime in question happened. That way, if they happen to guess the way the victim was killed, it's regarded as "proof" of their guilt and, if they don't list the actual method, investigators can claim that the suspect "intentionally avoided" it. (Regarding the last point, see Chris Watts' confession and the first part, Damien Nichols' interrogation)

[@JazzNazz1]

@@susansolano171 the Murder happened in October 2005 Brendan's interview was in March 2006 by this point they had the remains of Teresa including some skull fragments

[@daisy180709]

REMEMBER , the car key was found by the police that were NOT meant to be anywhere near the case due to the conflict of interest in his first wrongful conviction case, and also the car key only had Averys DNA on it and none of Theresa’s, how does that work ?..

[@TheeRiverGoat]

It takes a special kind of stupid to think that those two goofs are innocent

[@kingayy9267]

I think we all know how it worked.

[@Nanobot1989]

Wash the key?

[@daisy180709]

@@Nanobot1989 Some say the key was scrubbed clean then Averys DNA put on it , and others reckon it was the spare key taken from Theresa`s house from the police when they took her vibrator etc for DNA

[@daisy180709]

@@kingayy9267 Lol sorry mate , i thought you were being sarcastic to my comment , apologies

[@rabiaihadrine8763]

The victim said that she remembered the assailant having a wide-ish nose ... I certainly wouldn't define his nose as big or wide-ish ... Unfortunately they didn't show us the real line up photo's that they used at that time. I wouldn't be surprised that the other 8 men were Eskimos ... and that leaves the victim with one choice ... Avery ... The police didn't really made any effort to do some research and prove or disprove the victim's statement. That's called TUNNEL VISION ... Making a murderer on Netflix covers the Steven Avery story extraordinary good. MUST WATCH !!!

[@mrsapplez2007]

I really enjoyed the Netflix show. Definitely worth a binge

[@rabiaihadrine8763]

@@mrsapplez2007 same here

[@darksideofthemoon2348]

there is a good channel that has researched this case the foul play channel..great researchers that have deep dived into this case.. this show did he do it is one sided..penny went to the sheriff to say hey i think it wasnt steven ..she was told nah we have the right guy...imagine ..the victim saying hey i dont think its hi to be told no your wrong.. this is one crazy case..

[@ryansimmons3818]

Not 1, but TWO wrongful incarcerations of Steven…& a wrongful conviction of Brendan…. I like the format of this video and how it was acted/narrated, however, there is a TON of missing information, regarding the details of this case…& if I weren’t an AVID follower of this case, I would be able to simply conclude a guilty verdict, based on the info that was presented in this….. BUT, that’s NOT the case…& I have followed the most intimate details of this case for years, and there’s not a single doubt in my mind (amongst millions and millions of others) that Steven and Brendan are BOTH INNOCENT, & at the very least, both deserve retrials. Don’t let Sweaty Peddy Ken and Michael GreaseBall fool you … these Diploma Privileged Con Artists (and many more of their colleagues that I won’t mention) are terrible to the core.

[@cloo6984]

I remember when this happened and was relieved they had both been "put away".. in light of Kathleen Zellner and Laura Nirider's pulling back the rug and exposing all the dirt that's been swept under, I'm horrified! Not surprised tho..it is 'small town USA" they make and enforce their own rules. I only hope that this exposure will set them free some day soon.

[@case1020]

I urge everyone to do their homework on this case. There are many false statements in this video including the description. Avery was NOT sentenced to death . Many Many things left out of this biased show. At the trial the prosecutor Kratz more or less said "so what if the key was planted" among many other half truths or falsehoods. Watch your back if you're in Manitowoc.

[@trinaxmx]

I don’t believe he did that murder. The reporter was going to see him an her boss probably new where she was , so y risk something like that ??

[@FathomlessJoy]

Yeah watch your back. Especially if you are in Manitowoc luring innocent photographers to your house, tying them up, raping them for hours, cheering your nephew on while he rapes her too, then murdering her, mutilating her, burning her body and belongings on your property and hiding her vehicle on your property. Watch your back, indeed.

[@ShogunRua85]

​@@trinaxmx plus, he knew he was getting paid...that kind of money, he could of had his pick of pretty much any woman he chose

[@seame3795]

@@trinaxmx because he’s INSANE yo. Grow up. It’s a crazy world and there are some really gross people in it.

[@demontiming3234]

@@seame3795 yes, like the prosecution and Manitowoc County

[@foremansfolley]

Are you kidding? Brendan told his mom they did it...where is the mystery?

[@ShogunRua85]

Any show that gives Krantz rains to say what he wants like he isn't a biased liar is not a show that deserves respect or recognition

[@jeremiahc620]

Kratz is also a perv and a pedo, he's the real monster!

[@Minivanmusician]

I love it when they say that your alibi is no good if it's friends or family. LOL I guess you've got to hang out with your enemies all the time

[@bizznick444joe7]

I don't have friends so I guess I won't have to worry about that.

[@DzzziqsPat]

😅

[@Jazzykatt23]

It just proves that they can work around any alibi to make sure they get the one they want.

[@jeremiahc620]

Yeah but cops can cover for each other no problem smh

[@worldwithpeace4ever]

The case of Steven Avery is the most shocking, depressing and heartbreaking example of a miscarriage of justice. The fact that the American judicial system has failed all three victims of this case (Steven Avery, Brendan Dassey and Teresa Halbach ) by putting two innocent men behind bars and letting the actual killer/killers of Teresa get away with the crime is frightening & disgusting.

[@Douglas_Hamilton]

Five reasons why Steven Avery is guilty. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoGbi2mGh7anrc0

[@RealRagnar816]

They ain’t innocent tho

[@RavensFanJ]

Can I inquire as to your thoughts on the case? How did the crime go down in your mind?

[@jennifermarshall4780]

I would say there’s 36 million $ and reputations and livelihoods of men that were in power who were being deposed and lying about so much during it! The corruption that we know of that took place. I mean I have no doubt that they used a 16 year old boy as a patsy who was a alibi, and they knew that he was a weak link, and they could get him to confess to burning down the white house if that had been the case. I mean come on. Look up the statistics of how many people have falsely confessed to a homicide, and then how many of them were men. 92% 💥 later many are exonerated some have never been exonerated and it’s disturbing. Our justice system is not perfect. Nothing is! I work in this field my husband is a criminal defense attorney. I know how it works. I’ve seen way too many things I’ve walked through crime scenes. There was no crime scene at the Avery trailer that was depicted in Dassey’s false story. However, during his trial Kratz continue to use that story even after he had told the press about it I’ve never seen anything like it. I’ve never seen him go after someone so aggressively with appeals after it’s been over turned a couple of times and what they wanted I mean it’s just crazy And you have to look at that and go. It’s not about the answers, but the questions that we still need to be asking. Look at the photo they distributed of her and the RAV4 look at it closely. She’s taller than the vehicle. It’s completely ridiculous. That’s a big red flag right there. And I noticed the Kratts kept saying it’s bluish green greenish blue. What color is it dude come up with one he couldn’t because there were things going on in the background.

[@Cinnamonrollwhite]

@@RealRagnar816they are absolutely innocent

[@liisaks1]

Why are the makers of this video using Kratz as a credible witness? He's been COMPLETELY discredited. Don't believe me? Just google his name.

[@mikejh6551]

I thought it was supposed to be, without reasonable doubt! seam to me there is lots of absolute doubt.

[@michellerene3622]

Since seeing the whole thing on Netflix, my husband and i added a new verb to our vocabulary. "manitowoc'd" as in, "you totally manitowoc'd that up, didn't ya?"

[@jjean5928]

I dont blame the victim, I blame the police. 😭😍

[@kingayy9267]

Some people would harbor resentment toward the victim, even if they recognized how unreasonable it is. It says a lot about Avery that he was able to get past that.

[@seame3795]

They didn’t kill Theresa tho. He did.

[@darksideofthemoon2348]

@@seame3795 the police didn't kill Teresa and neither did Steven or Brendan .. Steven was wrongfully convicted first time don't you think it's strange Vogel and Tom let Gregory Allen roam free to harass ..attack women and men and also was a suspect in a 15yr old girls murder... But yet they let him roam free...also he has never been charged with penny's attack either..

[@GiganticRooster-kn2lj]

This is a case of corruption from the lowest to the highest levels in Wisconsin. He spent 18 years falsely convicted and the cops couldn't stand the fact that he got out of jail and they had to do everything they could to put him back.

[@Kyra_of_Kerkyra]

Yes, even murder. Manitowoc PD murdered TH.

[@jeremiahc620]

And get out of that lawsuit. They had 36 million reasons to frame him!

[@Church_Of_Kloppism]

You can find Ken kratz saying his biggest regret about the whole case was going on TV minuets after arresting Steven Avery and announcing that it was Avery, He didnt say it but its because they now HAD to convict him at all costs.

[@kingayy9267]

Never talk to police. Asking for an attorney won't make you look any guiltier than you already look, if you're being questioned by cops. Remaining silent is a right that everyone should exercise. No one is going to talk their way out of an interrogation room nor are the cops your friends who "just want to straighten things out/hear your side of the story."

[@Nanobot1989]

“I’ve never lost a case” is highly worrying. First off, taking plea deals shouldn’t count as a “win”. Second the odds of every single case she tried where the person did do the crime are insanely low. She’s sketch. Edit: wow she’s way worse than I thought. Avery is guilty of the second murder but this chick sucks.

[@donivanhummel3106]

Thats the broken system we live in. A prosecutor who never loses is a prosecutor who will violate disclosure rules and lock up innocent people with whom they likely know, at times, are Innocent. The system incentivizes winning at all cost. Penalties for breaking the rules are often times so lacking that a risk assessment will almost always persuade the prosecutors to be unethical.

[@donivanhummel3106]

I'm not sure he's guilty of the 2nd murder for a few reasons. 1. The police, who announced they would have nothing to do with the investigation, not only decided to be involved but found every piece of crucial evidence. The bloody key that they somehow missed the first 2 searches even though it was in plain sight in his room 🙄. They had a lot of motive to set him up. 2. It sure the hell sounds like that deputy who found the car "on the Avery property," was reading that liscense plate days before it was actually found. 3. That Dassie kid was slow at best, and mentally retarded at worst. Every significant fact that "he" provided was fed to him by the police. He got actual details wrong until they corrected him and fed him the correct details. 4. There was a 2nd site that doesnt even get discussed in the case. 5. Aside from Dassie another witness recanted their testimony. 6. One of the star witnesses is actually a suspect with disturbing images on his computer that sure the hell sound like this crime. Could he have done it? Sure, he obviously could have done it but is it beyond a reasonable doubt if all that is factored in? Not by a long shot.

[@kellyschlough7321]

While I feel disgusted with the avery case I think I am even more disgusted that his minor nephew brendon was targeted as well. Poor kid lost his entire life. You could see in the interrogation that they were leading him and he thought if he just told them what they wanted to hear he'd get to go back to school. I hope they prove their innocence soon and kratz gets what he deserves. You have to be blind to not be able to see through his bs. His soft spoken voice doesn't fool me. He is not the good guy.

[@Patrick-lq1yi]

Kelly you seem to know what's happening it's been awhile since I've seen mam wasn't kratz accused of stalking can't remember thanks

[@jayservey2830]

The kid was railroaded for sure.

[@jjean5928]

Sick! Disgusting how some people in authority manipulate such things so they can close the case and save face! 😱

[@kingayy9267]

They happily throw innocent people in prison then wonder why the public hates them.

[@tongahealingchannel1875]

Free Steve Avery!

[@Douglas_Hamilton]

It was the witness who sent him to prison for 18 yrs. About the murder of Teresa Halbach, I'm convinced Steven did it. There is no way her body could've been burned on his property without his knowledge.

[@aurobinson9309]

The Netflix show is fake

[@KN-ms4xk]

Netflix should be shut be down for the flat out lies & brainwashing millions!

[@amywattskeel9923]

I can't believe jury didn't see the cops blamed everything on him 1st time why wouldn't do it again. The nephew interaction omg the judge in on it too saying wasn't influenced by cops..

[@jayayers9500]

Your sick for even making this funny how a mantawac county cop found that key when they were ordered not to even be involved cops from another county searched six times they found that key in fives minutes that man is beyond innocent you people are disgusting

[@darksideofthemoon2348]

Exactly..they were suppose to help with equipment and stay away from certain areas..yet..Andy and lenk who was deposed..they found the key in the bedroom..audio phone and papers on 147 along with God's best pal Pam ..they were at kuss rd ..maribel caves .. they were in the thick of it.. andy kept going on about awh poor me it ruined my marriage ..nah him having a affair did that.. he tried to sue Netflix and lost..lol yet still silence from kratz. .think he's doing what he's been told to do ..stop talking and writing books 😆😆 ouch bet that hurts kratz not being able to spout crap..

[@lynnees9828]

First, why would he leave her car in the Avery yard? Oh, and then leave keys on his floor after he gave full assess to his home. What a set up. They need to find the person who committed this crime and then go after the corrupt police.

[@kingayy9267]

Another comment said there was somehow only Avery's DNA on the key, none of Teresa's.

[@lynnees9828]

@@kingayy9267 Yes, interesting.

[@NC-ck5oj]

@@kingayy9267 that could easily be explained as him cleaning the key to remove evidence but then leaving his own dna on it after cleaning it.

[@phlhoran12396]

​@@NC-ck5oj Ya but come on would you take that most obvious risk??....... 🤔

[@NC-ck5oj]

@@phlhoran12396 Me? No but Steven Avery is dumb as a rock

[@lilynyawira7701]

Saddest story ever. It breaks me to think that Steven is still in prison. And why? coached witness, planted evidence by people with $36m motive. It doesn't get the sadder than this. What a friggin broken system. 💔💔

[@xowarrior]

did they plant his obsession with Teresa and how she was scared of him too?

[@johnylalrina1451]

Dude are you serious?

[@xowarrior]

@johnylalrina1451 they haven't seen anything besides the netflix show about the case and it shows, but that's society nowadays for you. not researching anything by themselves, just swallowing whatever the media tells them

[@johnylalrina1451]

@@xowarrior thank god Candace Owen is going to do proper breakdown on this case.

[@jd_ralte]

Trump; The system is rig, I used it...😅

[@leonnehaaijman4709]

Ehmmm... if you want to do a good job on investigating for a documentary, you also investigate Avery's claims that he was set up a second time and don't just simply leave it at "Oh well, the jury found him guilty, so he must be". They don't even ATTEMPT to find out about the bullet and keys found on his propert AFTER several earlier searches. This documentary is anything but objective.

[@jase4270]

He's a murdering piece of s..t.

[@case1020]

@@jase4270 really? Is Brendan dassey guilty also?

[@Free-Thinker]

@@case1020 Nope! Brendan was subject to child abuse IMO

[@pinkbeatle2012]

the documentary was biased I would love to see an impartial one tbh.

[@case1020]

@@pinkbeatle2012 it was 100% biased. It only showed less than 10% of the corruption going on in those communities.

[@goldsbym]

Why did the husband of they lady running down the beach wait on the cops? She was literally 5 minutes away. Call cops then go save your wife! I don't understand?

[@samial2341]

Soooo onsided, see the netflix documentery and you will see how one-sided this shitty documentery was. Steven is innocent!

[@andrewross4685]

He called the victim out to the property using his sisters name and phone number. Records show he called her phone using *67 twice, then again without it. The victim had not wanted to deal with Avery again since he had been inappropriate with her previously. Moreover, his sweat was found under the handle of the trunk of her car. The man is guilty and y’all let a TV show convince you to release a rapist and murderer.

[@evernit]

OK, but If - as said at 43:33 that _there is no excusing Steven Avery's first wrongful conviction but no matter what happens to you, you are still responsible for the things you do_ - then how his lawsuit against the county police department went? Or were they _excused_ and themselves not held responsible as I suppose?

[@Free-Thinker]

As soon as he was arrested it forced his hand to settle the civil suit to afford to hire a lawyer. This was just a day or two prior to the final depositions of the top law enforcement that were named in connection to his wrongful conviction in the Beernsten case. No members of law enforcement were ever held accountable to my knowledge, nor apologized.

[@cradames]

​@@Free-Thinker yup he got what like 100k pr somewhere around there. This imo is the biggest set up and it's so obvious but he sits in jail

[@ronin17511]

​@@cradamesI'm pretty sure he got nothing. The law states that if he won that suit, the real criminals would be liable in a civil law suit and they would have no protection by the criminals they work for. $36 million was the follow up law suit. So that had to be stopped. Sad hey, this is justice in the USA. CRIMINALS OF THE WORST KIND. THE ONES WITH BADGES AND GUNS. Thank God for the good people still in the system. For now.

[@beautifulyou2]

@@cradameshe got 400k

[@debi12167]

​@@Free-ThinkerThey were never convicted or even found have any actual wrong doing... Back in 85 wrongful convictions happened a lot because DNA testing wasn't readily available...

[@notapplicable761]

Kratz you have NO business talking about folks that commit sex crimes!

[@debi12167]

The 12 years ( because 6 of those 18 were for attempting to kidnap his cousin at gunpoint) that he served in prison wrongfully convicted is not what turned him into a monster. He was already a monster! I'm sure it just made him a bigger monster...

[@danielrivera2630]

There's eye witnesses that saw the other kid pushing the car and told police who didn't do anything about it

[@jessicamorales2555]

The lady who sent him to jail while he was innocent, should not share opinion anymore. Despite her tragedy, justice served her already

[@MsPeachyBrown]

Are people still believing anything Kratz says??? Hell years later he had to step down from practicing law because of lude texts maybe he did it ughhhh

[@Abondano1]

I cannot believe what Kratz said.

[@comedianxl1736]

Wtf? I just watched the netflix series I couldn't believe this could happen in today's society, mid America is the worst place

[@thomasnorman4221]

Hopefully all law enforcement responsible for Averys wrongful conviction is doing his time behind bars

[@RavensFanJ]

There's even more evidence against Avery than there is in the Scott Peterson and Barry Morphew investigations, just to name a few. The biggest evidence against Avery is: The RAV found on his property with both his and Teresa's blood in multiple places within. Her remains found in his burn pit and burn barrels, along with her electronic devices. Bullets found in his garage, one of which had Teresa's DNA on it and was ballistically matched to the. 22 caliber rifle that hung above his bed. A luminol reactant spot in the garage near the mower Dassey claimed her body was by. The key to Teresa's vehicle which was discovered in his trailer (not after 7 searches but 7 entries - a very common misconception). 1st entry was a body check only and before they found the RAV, 2nd was for a PC serial number and the auto trader book, 3rd was for the rifle, etc etc until the 7th entry which was for a thorough search of the bedroom. Then there's the circumstantial evidence against him: The *67 calls to her phone before arrival + non *67 call after. Him taking off work that day and not returning which even according to him he never did. His property being the last stop she made that day on her photo shoots, as well as being her last known location and him being the last known person to see her. And the anecdotal evidence against him: Bobby testifying he saw her with him the day of the crime. Robert Fabian testifying he saw Avery burning things in the barrel they later found her electronics. The auto trader woman who says Teresa mentioned the creepy behavior of Avery to.

[@christiesmith978]

Look, ANYONE who watches THIS documentary REALLY ISN"T getting the FACTS and what they do say is VERY MISCONSTRUED and is INTENTIONALLY MISLEADING. I STRONGLY suggest that people skip this video and move onto ANY OTHER video on the subject. If you want correct depictions, this AIN'T it!

[@linda9115]

He has to be the unluckiest guy in the world.

[@Free-Thinker]

No just made some bad choices early on for which he has paid dearly. Should have never messed with a sheriff's wife by running her off the road even if she is your cousin and she is saying things about you that you say are not true.

[@Douglas_Hamilton]

Or he did it!

[@chrisbradshaw6135]

The title of this video is crap. It spends more time on his wrongful conviction than the murder case. It doesn't even discuss whether he's guilty! Click bait garbage!

[@jonsellas]

He may not have been a murderer, but he was a rapist.Yep, whole lotta rapin.

[@cherrub27]

What an injustice! Mr Avery should have or must have sued the police and the prosecutors for these lapses.

[@Free-Thinker]

He did file a civil suit which is why he is where he is

[@cradames]

He did and then they set him up for this murder and sits his life in jail

[@elel4284]

@@cradames he is a rapist

[@FathomlessJoy]

Yeah he should use his accomplice's full and accurate confession as his primary evidence.

[@cherrub27]

@@Free-Thinker yap. The police framed him up that ultimately destroyed his whole being.

[@Brunobeaudy]

So, Beyond , you think that the case is closed ? I bet you’ll be surprised .

[@gabrieljoselebron6762]

A convicted murderer got convicted on multiple accounts. A life for a life in my eyes, may he rot

[@zz424]

Taxi said that he shot him twenty times in the head but there were only two bullet wounds to the head so that's made.

[@RavensFanJ]

But did a big yellow taxi come and take his girl away?

[@xowarrior]

how the hell was gregory let go out of prison after 10 years???? why aren't creeps like this locked up forever

[@sopranosfan11]

One of the most frustrating, confusing, perplexing, saddening cases in history. I'm almost exactly 50/50 on it. I just really don't know. Back and forth. One minute I want to believe one side and then the next minute I want to believe the other. I've been revisiting the case because of the upcoming Convicting a Murderer. I want to take a stance but I just can't. There's just never been a case like this before and hopefully there never will be again. Perhaps the truth will only be known to all when investigators have access to a time machine.

[@vzeller]

There have been cases like this before. We just don't know about them because they weren't blasted on Netflix.

[@sopranosfan11]

@@vzeller You're probably right but then again the Avery case is definitely unique in a lot of ways. How often does a man get released from prison after being falsely imprisoned for nearly two decades but then shortly after gets accused of murder by the same police department which falsely imprisoned him in the first place and was being sued for millions by that same man?

[@vzeller]

@@sopranosfan11 From that macro standpoint, it's definitely unique and just crazy improbable. That's why I think he didn't do it. You can't do it the way they said and not have blood. It's a physical impossibility. That's why they planted so many pieces of evidence but they all fall like dominoes. If it got another trial, the prosecution would have zero chance at winning.

[@sopranosfan11]

@J0SHMART Wow that's interesting. Your comment seems to have been shadow banned too. I was revisiting my post here and saw that it said there four comments but only two were showing. I clicked on sort by newest comments and scrolled down to find my post and now your comment can be seen.

[@davidbamford1971]

I dont want offend anyone, but only a person with a very IQ could believe Avery is innocent. The evidence against Avery is overwhelming, for him not to be responsible the poice would have had to kill Teresa and set Avery up. There was no motive, the 36 million law suit if in the unlikeable event it was successful,it would have been covered by insurance. No police office would have cared enough to set Avery up as they were not personally liable. Avery thought he could do what he wanted after been wrongly sentenced the previous occasion. He has a low IQ and is a sex offender, making a murderer is a well made, but fake documentary. They would have been better employed trying to get one of the many people really wrongly convicted, vindicated.

[@MichelleAlexandria-EM]

exactly. I hate these fake, one sided "true" crime docs like this, Serial and The Staircase. They are all BS and produced by the defendents. And they work. Meanwhile the victim is completely ignored by the public.

[@Audiophilx]

The police wouldn’t have needed to kill TH, what are you talking about. Why are police officers at the crime scene wich shouldn’t have been there, and these policeman suddenly find things, what the police before didn’t find. This smells like the police planted it. Use yourr last bit of logic what you have left

[@sarah5893]

I don't know if he's guilty or not but the Manitowoc officer's should not have been anywhere near this case. Ken Kratz was disbarred because he was sexually harassing a vulnerable female witness/victim. He makes my skin crawl

[@lee-ur7nt]

I watched that show, and immediately noticed they never touched on the actual evidence that convinced 12 people to find him guilty. Looked it up and immediately thought..yeah he's definitely guilty...Also. Just listen to him, have you ever heard someone just lie and lie...thats what it sounds like.

[@Jokerz1982]

He was framed

[@RavensFanJ]

There's 0 evidence of that. 18 years later, someone would have talked or messed up by now. Pretty sure the simple answer here is the correct one.

[@donivanhummel3106]

I'm 50/50 on whether or not he did it and that's not beyond a reasonable doubt. Plain and simple. INNOCENT until proven guilty

[@dianeutecht4467]

HE WAS SO SET UP BY THESE DAMN NASTY COPS ....STAY OUT OF THIS TOWN FOLKS.STAY OUT OF MILWAUKEE ALSO .

[@RavensFanJ]

It's been 18 years since the murder and there's still 0 proof of framing or tampering with evidence in any way, shape, or form. Only speculation. If there was a conspiracy, I think it would have been uncovered by now.

[@snowwhite7571]

A group of people definitely framed Steven again! I don't believe Brandon or Steven had nothing to do with Theresa's death! IMO, so much evidence was planted! Why would Steven put her vehicle in the family's junk yard! Who ever was supposed to pay Steven that money, never were going to! They had to act fast and plan something! Brandon was taken advantage of, 16 years old, why wasn't he told he could have a lawyer! I have so much respect to the lady that wanted to apologize to Steven! That was powerful!

[@RavensFanJ]

There's even more evidence against Avery than there is in the Scott Peterson and Barry Morphew investigations, just to name a few. The biggest evidence against Avery is: The RAV found on his property with both his and Teresa's blood in multiple places within. Her remains found in his burn pit and burn barrels, along with her electronic devices. Bullets found in his garage, one of which had Teresa's DNA on it and was ballistically matched to the. 22 caliber rifle that hung above his bed. A luminol reactant spot in the garage near the mower Dassey claimed her body was by. The key to Teresa's vehicle which was discovered in his trailer (not after 7 searches but 7 entries - a very common misconception). 1st entry was a body check only and before they found the RAV, 2nd was for a PC serial number and the auto trader book, 3rd was for the rifle, etc etc until the 7th entry which was for a thorough search of the bedroom. Then there's the circumstantial evidence against him: The *67 calls to her phone before arrival + non *67 call after. Him taking off work that day and not returning which even according to him he never did. His property being the last stop she made that day on her photo shoots, as well as being her last known location and him being the last known person to see her. And the anecdotal evidence against him: Bobby testifying he saw her with him the day of the crime. Robert Fabian testifying he saw Avery burning things in the barrel they later found her electronics. The auto trader woman who says Teresa mentioned the creepy behavior of Avery to.

[@my1vice]

Guilty. He is where he belongs.

[@dianeutecht4467]

Not guilty😢

[@RavensFanJ]

There's even more evidence against Avery than there is in the Scott Peterson and Barry Morphew investigations, just to name a few. The biggest evidence against Avery is: The RAV found on his property with both his and Teresa's blood in multiple places within. Her remains found in his burn pit and burn barrels, along with her electronic devices. Bullets found in his garage, one of which had Teresa's DNA on it and was ballistically matched to the. 22 caliber rifle that hung above his bed. A luminol reactant spot in the garage near the mower Dassey claimed her body was by. The key to Teresa's vehicle which was discovered in his trailer (not after 7 searches but 7 entries - a very common misconception). 1st entry was a body check only and before they found the RAV, 2nd was for a PC serial number and the auto trader book, 3rd was for the rifle, etc etc until the 7th entry which was for a thorough search of the bedroom. Then there's the circumstantial evidence against him: The *67 calls to her phone before arrival + non *67 call after. Him taking off work that day and not returning which even according to him he never did. His property being the last stop she made that day on her photo shoots, as well as being her last known location and him being the last known person to see her. And the anecdotal evidence against him: Bobby testifying he saw her with him the day of the crime. Robert Fabian testifying he saw Avery burning things in the barrel they later found her electronics. The auto trader woman who says Teresa mentioned the creepy behavior of Avery to.

[@theresajohnson1959]

Corrupt cops & justice system 😡😡 sounds like such a false confession.

[@jennifermarshall4780]

I don’t like “former” prosecutor Ken Kratz special prosecutor was also involved in this planting! The story that he told to the press about what Brendan Dassey supposedly did as truth was “untrustworthy” as heck! We have the mind of a kid who should’ve been with a lawyer! He should’ve asked for a lawyer! He didn’t no he could he didn’t understand his Miranda rights he couldn’t even spell detective! They also had already questioned him multiple times prior to that day. That whole interrogation was awful no, they weren’t yelling at him or threatening him, but it was a mind scramble! She was never in the trailer. There’s no evidence of that if she had been stabbed and had a slit throat shot not 1 but 10 times whete is the blood? None was found ever not even with a clean up, which it wasn’t clean Luminol or the even more powerful stuff. They have now ext there would be so much forensic evidence. Nothing came of that, including the gun or the bullet. That was supposedly the one that went through her head! I don’t think he actually understood he was Avery‘s alibi so to get one out you need to get the other out of the way. Weaker link! Bye! I think it was a complete set up in every way by poweful men with a ton to lose! 36$ million reasons and all of the men that were being deposed were powerful men go figure. I’ve seen so many people falsely confess to XYZ under pressure if you look at the statistics, how many of them do it how many of them are men? It’s incredible There was not great forensic evidence. The forensic evidence in the RAV4 is so unreasonable. I mean come on in the picture of her that they kept distributing of her in front of the RAV4 with her camera is completely off. She’s taller than the SUV. I guarantee in real life she’s not taller than a her SUV. Red flag! Plus 1 man being deposed had his own salvage yard and a dealship! I was wondering why they wouldn’t get the color right! Kratz kept saying greenish blue or green, blue OK I get it now because I think it was a different car all together. He could’ve gotten the same RAV4 and planted it. That’s why they kept monkeying around with the color of it. Those people knew how to put this together, including Vin numbers! I’ve seen it done. I worked at a huge public auction and a dealership! Why in the hell would he just take it in the back and not cover it up? Why not crush it! The fire no way! Seriously someone put it on the property and they made him leave. Bam everything’s found. He’s so much deeply in debt to these powerful men. 36 million they were being deposed in the civil lawsuit against him. Of course they’re going to get his alibi out-of-the-way which was Dassey so they could keep doing what they were doing. Ken just ugh! Omg! How did people not see this! 36 million reasons to have some of the most powerful men do things unthinkable and then do something to save their careers livelihoods reputations! Powerful men being deposed, and nobody thought this could happen. I wish Avery had left during all of that and came back after he won. I think it’s incredibly sad that he careed so much about his family he was being deceived! This included the Avery bill! I don’t believe the Avery’s or Dassey’s family had anything to do with her murder! I guarantee I’m not far off. I think all those men should be talked to and get lie detector tests done ext! That will never happen. The liar beat cop no power. Now he has all the power. He is something special for doing something horrific. Watching him lie on the stand, watching him lie in the deposition. I don’t see how people don’t understand what this is all about? It’s corruption and they couldn’t lose They all got together and come up with this. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were watching Avery for a very long time and took her because they had to. That is my take on the story?

[@NokkoTV]

Still can't believe those who still think he is guilty no matter what. So biased. What happens to the innocent until proven guilty.

[@eldavieo]

Quite frankly anybody who actually believes he did it is as thick as mince

[@vzeller]

I'm open minded. I'm not saying he's innocent, but he definitely didn't do it the way they said he did if he did it. You can't have a bullet with DNA on it but no blood or bone. Where is the blood? That's impossible. Then you find out the cops got her chapstick and the bullet had wax on it. I lean to the side that he's guilty of being a bad guy but he didn't do this.

[@JustinThrasher-c8e]

He is 100% innocent I've seen set ups before and the facts dont add up. Hell is designed for those responsible. He will get everything back and more when he gets into heaven for having his whole life ruined...

[@donivanhummel3106]

He should have been found innocent, and he was definitely set up, but he could be guilty too. He has an arrest record of violent acts that aren't in question. Now does that mean that he couldnt be reformed and innocent, no. It just means that the system was broken whether he actually did it or not.

[@Joellarainbow]

If you've never lost a criminal case in 15 years are you really fighting for justice? Just wondering if you only taking the for sure cases? Because that's not fighting for justice 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@jamess9670]

Just because there was impropriety with some of the investigators doesn’t necessarily mean Steven didn’t do it. Those two things aren’t mutually exclusive…look at the OJ case.

[@erwinfelis]

There's no way for me to know whether Steven Avery really killed Teresa Halbach. The case was handled poorly. That's not to say he didn't do it. He had a history of criminal activity, but that doesn't mean that he did this crime. It doesn't mean that he is a model person, either, even if he didn't do it. There are a lot of inmates who like to be difficult and try to make your day as stressful as possible. I can say that Mr Avery is not a trouble maker in prison. He is compliant, polite, friendly, and charismatic. You don't need to tell me he's putting up a front. I've been in this business for 18 years, and you don't survive that long in this career field by being easily manipulated by inmates. No one is getting drugs or cellphones from me. I also won't let you get away with things just because you're a kiss ass. Guilty or innocent, it does help when an inmate follows the rules and doesn't have a constant chip on their shoulder. A lot of inmates are anti authority/anti police/anti establishment. Even though I'm technically not a police officer, for most inmates there is no difference. I find it amusing that he was signing autographs for other inmates, though, as the documentary somehow aired in prison. The guy knows he's a minor celebrity, even if it's for all the wrong things. Lol Me personally? I couldn't get past the first couple of episodes of his documentary. Lol

[@scotth5739]

IMO Steven Avery and Brendon Dassey are innocent. Every piece of evidence is either suspicious or has an alternative scenario. The Rav4 could have been placed on ASY by others. The electronics in the burn barrel could have been placed by others. The key in his trailer was a spare key and had to be placed by others. The bones were a mess. Teresas DNA was not a perfect match to her mother. The bullet in the garage could have been placed by others. Averys blood in the Rav could have been placed by others. Its 1985 all over again. Griesbach felt the pressure from his legal eagle piers, turn coated avery and colborn for that matter. The setup is obvious. Kocourek and Vogels followers had abt 8 million reasons to convict Steven. The truth will be exposed. Those responsible will fall.

[@lynahiacampbell8232]

The police killed that woman and pinned on Avery because they was so angry that he made them look stupid !!!

[@ronin17511]

Nope, but that too. If he won the case he was filing, that would have opened a tin of smelly maggots for the real criminals involved. They would have been personally liable and lost their qualified immunity. The case was going to go at them personally for $36 million. Can't have that, can we we now. All our so called public servants are just law abiding citizens. How's that for omitted information on behalf of this propaganda channel. More parasites serving their parasitic masters. Strange world. 0:07

[@Douglas_Hamilton]

That's a stupid conspiracy theory as she was burned on his property, in his campfire pit next to his house. Did the police do that too?

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

Anyone who throws a live Cat into a fire and watches it burn to death is a very SICK human being and has lost all sympathy on my part.

[@mikeroberts4876]

Too much reasonable doubt,,where do I start. The quote unquote witness didn't say Steve did any thing.the investigators said Steve did it and pushed Brendan to agree with it.they said Steve did this and Steve did that and Brendan said , yea ok,, whatever you say.second manitowoc was not supposed to be involved in the investigation because he was sueing them for 36 million.well guess who found her key in his house on day number 6 of the investigation,,, you guessed it. It was manitawok, who wasn't even supposed to be involved.36 million reasons to get involved I suppose.that is strike two.moving on let's talk about the bullet they found in the garage with Teresa's dna on it.sounds good for prosecution,, but hang on a minute,, where there is a bullet,, surely,, I mean surely there is some blood,, somewhere,,right.wrong ,, no blood,, no pools of blood,, no blood spatter , spray,, leak , drop, nothing.one would think he cleaned up the blood,, witch is reasonable,, .so then I ask how does he clean up the blood and leave all the dirt,, mud,,grime, .I don't know weather he killed that girl or not but the states case is garbage.they week miles away from proving murder.they railroaded him on the first trial,, he sued them and b4 collecting a dollar, they railroad him again

[@donivanhummel3106]

"The jury had no reasonable doubt" because they were given an ID that was later retracted. Funny how the lady prosecutor forgets the last part

[@kekojones8431]

If the murder took place on Avery property... I don't understand how the car keys would end up in the house in the room behind the furniture stand, if Steven and Brandon supposedly went as far as to burn the corpse… essentially getting rid of any evidence it would be more plausible if they had disposed of the keys. I argue that Steven was setup. as horrific as it is. I ponder would those law enforcement officers have gone to a place of no return and murder the victim to frame Steven?

[@iloveTRUMP]

He should have been ruled out with the receipt and his alibi

[@t.sommers6121]

Being convicted for the second crime does not influence his lawsuit for false incarceration in the past. If the police coerced the nephew, than the defense attorney should have presented the interview footage as evidence. Also, to think that a bunch of cops and DA’s are framing someone to prevent the responsible jurisdiction paying money to a previous false conviction is unrealistic. What difference would it make to them? They get paid every month tegardless.

[@christiesmith978]

DAMN KEN, you wanna shout about leaving evidence, facts & Info out of reporting.... Well, brother,,, This 'documentary' has left A WHOLE BUNCH of things out, important things!!!!!

[@Lifeisshortsee]

And for police office rs to be crooked they weren't thinking of Teresa at all

[@671oneblood]

I love how Kratz had an opinion on someone being a sicko when he got caught sending sexual texts to one of his clients wives. Seems like a stand up guy 🤣

[@billlewis8765]

That prosecutor, Ken whatever his name is seems shady as all get out! Actually him and the sheriff dept are all shady maybe even murderers! This is all insane!

[@RavensFanJ]

There's even more evidence against Avery than there is in the Scott Peterson and Barry Morphew investigations, just to name a few. The biggest evidence against Avery is: The RAV found on his property with both his and Teresa's blood in multiple places within. Her remains found in his burn pit and burn barrels, along with her electronic devices. Bullets found in his garage, one of which had Teresa's DNA on it and was ballistically matched to the. 22 caliber rifle that hung above his bed. A luminol reactant spot in the garage near the mower Dassey claimed her body was by. The key to Teresa's vehicle which was discovered in his trailer (not after 7 searches but 7 entries - a very common misconception). 1st entry was a body check only and before they found the RAV, 2nd was for a PC serial number and the auto trader book, 3rd was for the rifle, etc etc until the 7th entry which was for a thorough search of the bedroom. Then there's the circumstantial evidence against him: The *67 calls to her phone before arrival + non *67 call after. Him taking off work that day and not returning which even according to him he never did. His property being the last stop she made that day on her photo shoots, as well as being her last known location and him being the last known person to see her. And the anecdotal evidence against him: Bobby testifying he saw her with him the day of the crime. Robert Fabian testifying he saw Avery burning things in the barrel they later found her electronics. The auto trader woman who says Teresa mentioned the creepy behavior of Avery to.

[@magikburn]

its a no win situation, to work in law enforcement you need ego and entitlement. these things also mean you cant stand to be wrong, which makes you terrible at being fair in judgement. Avery had no chance. They needed to be right and the state didnt want to pay out. Land of the free? biggest joke ever.

[@dukenukembubblegum7311]

Penny is just as guilty in this.

[@antoniafaheerty6980]

That's not fair though, she was so traumatised by the attack she put her faith in LE. What had she to gain by picking the wrong man?? Any victim of a crime especially as brutal as this would surely want the correct person in prison!!

[@Douglas_Hamilton]

Party. Allen and Avery don't look that alike.

[@darksideofthemoon2348]

​@@Douglas_Hamilton they don't look alike at all..also Vogel and Tom knew that anyway..Vogel had meetings in his office with Allen.. everyone in his office knew Allen visited DA Vogel in his office..they even had a codename for him throughout the police dept ..they called him sandman.. penny and another detective went to sheriff tom to say she didn't think it was Steven ... sheriff said to the victim ..nah your wrong we got the right guy..imagine eh telling the victim she's wrong ..Allen went on to harass and attack women for years ...he is even a suspect in a 15yr old girls murder...

[@Douglas_Hamilton]

​@@darksideofthemoon2348 That's why I think Penny is partly guilty. Especially when she claimed she memorized his face. How on Earth could she be so wrong? When it comes to Avery's guilt regarding Halbach, yes I think he did it. He is a very dangerous man and a rapist and 18 yrs behind bars can make everybody a murderer. He was nice and forgiving to Penny when he was exonerated but we know nothing what was going on in his mind after that. I know you have a different opinion and I respect that. But looking at the evidence I think the jury got it right. He lured her there, she was evidently murdered there and then burned in his fire pit near his home. It is an impossibility that he didn't either kill her or participated in the murder. The whole conspiracy theory that the police, DA, government etc. planted evidence makes no sense as his wrongful conviction case was already settled to $400K. Anyway, if he's innocent I hope Kathleen Zellner finds the evidence that will exonerate him.

[@darksideofthemoon2348]

@@Douglas_Hamilton yeah I agree with you about Penny..hate to say it but it's true.. she knew in her heart it wasn't Steven..why else would she go to sheriff tom with a detective to say I think we got wrong guy..that's just before the trial and she still sat in court and lied..she did not talk on mam but yet she talked in other shows.. You say Steven is a rapist but he didn't do the 85 rape..also did you know Allen has never been charged either for that attack on penny ..not everyone that was wrongfully convicted gets out to murder again .. Steven was just happy to be free .. I respect your opinion too but I think the jury don't always get it right .look at OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony ..the jury thought them innocent and we all know they got it wrong.. I find it strange that the state said he lured her there..she was the only photographer for auto trader in that area..she had been to the yard bout 10 times before.. autotrader gave her barbas name and address so she knew it was on Avery road ..kratz states she never left the property..yet her cell pings show she had left ..then we have gahn and Fallon giving bones back to the halbachs after kz was told she could test them ..they broke their own law..I do not think the cops killed her at all.. though some do..but I can't see them doing that.. Steven had to settle for £400k to pay Gerry and Dean..that's why he accepted.. 36million was nothing really.. but if Vogel and Tom were deposed and caught out lying ..every case they worked on would be re-examined...imagine how many others would sue for wrongful convictions.. thanks for replying back . Hope you check out the foul play channel if you would like to know more bout this case..I will keep an eye out for you if you ever pop in 😊 take care and have a good night ❤️🙏🖖

[@stevekinlough588]

Ken Kratz- nobody believes that crook

[@Free-Thinker]

Penny was a victim twice

[@Beechnut2U]

Having Ken Kratz on as an expert for the prosecution removes all legitimacy for this video. Kratz has a criminal record of his own.

[@jamess9670]

To anyone who thinks Steven Avery is innocent…you are aware that he poured gasoline on his cat and set it on fire right? He was convicted of this and he has readily admitted this. Cruelty to animals is one of the hallmarks of a psychopath. A lot of serial killers got their start torturing and killing animals. It’s not that big of a leap to picture him graduating to killing a person. I have no sympathy to anyone who harms children and animals.

[@theresekleyn2377]

Disgusting one sided story. Shame on you.

[@paulbowman1762]

Makes me laugh ? She hasn't ever lost a case in 15 years coz the cases she takes are a hundred percent bang on guilty ! 😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@elel4284]

she sldint loose any case but what if he left a criminal in the streets? for money

[@darksideofthemoon2348]

@@elel4284 sure they let Gregory Allen roam around the streets ..he attacked and harassed his victims. He was also a suspect in a 15 yr old girls murder.. the sheriff and DA knew who he was and what he did..if you look at the transcript of the 85 deposition Allen even had meetings with the DA ..yet the let him stay out of jail and put an innocent man in...so don't you think they would stitch him up again..

[@A.I.SH.A]

FRAMED!!!

[@pinkbeatle2012]

yes he done it the documentary was biased and just looked at one side of the story.

[@darksideofthemoon2348]

Every documentary and TV shows are somewhat bias..the Netflix show left out so much that pointed to his innocence..that's why it's best to check the records and transcripts..

[@BigBlueGr8ness]

Steven Avery was innocent and spent 18 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit and Steven Avery is innocent of the murder of Teresa Halbauch and yet he's still in prison while the murderer walks free it makes me so sick to my stomach for Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey I hope so badly Kathleen can get all the real evidence together that frees them both🙏🏻

[@littlewingmyoho]

I think he did do the second crime and is where he needs to be

[@littlewingmyoho]

I think he thought because of the first case he would get away it when he did do it .That poor sweet girl 😓

[@carlomikhailreid4365]

Framed

[@ToddiusMaximus]

Lol. Nope

[@darksideofthemoon2348]

@@ToddiusMaximus yep..framed twice😉

[@case1020]

@@ToddiusMaximusframed twice. Do a little homework pal.

[@Free-Thinker]

@@ToddiusMaximus It could happen to you

[@somerandomkid9438]

Twice ✔️✔️

[@fjfjdmvm390]

Only in America this could happen Steven Avery is Innocent

[@FaeWaters-yb5zm]

I am not going to say who but a member of the team who was a sexual sadest was capable of killing Teresa. He cheated on his wife thought he was above the law got caught. He even changed his appearance to look like Steven. He hated Steven and didn't want him to collect the money. ;-)

[@michelle.1979]

I hope I can remember the name of this channel so I NEVER watch your ridiculous version of of news again. Thank the Jesus you're not part of this actual case.

[@maryhalverson5713]

This show's woefully short on facts compared to the riveting & fully researched Netflx documentary, "MAKING A Murderer." It leaves no stone unturned.

[@michellerene3622]

There are SO many details left out of this presentation. Especially the key in his room and his blood. what about the hole in the vial lid?

[@RavensFanJ]

The hole in the vacu-vial is there because that's literally how they fill it. The woman who filled that exact vial was ready to testify to that, but she was never called to do so. MaM just made it out to be something it wasn't.

[@jayservey2830]

Guilty or not guilty that was some of the absolute worse policework that I have ever seen or read about. I will avoid Manitowoc County Wisconsin at all costs. Yikes.