Was the Bible Edited?

[@smartereveryday]

Best intro in the history of ever.

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

Glad you haven't outgrown fart jokes.

[@root1657]

@@MattWhitmanTMBH anyone who claims to outgrow fart jokes is lying. Some cross in to a state of high class fart jokes, but the underlying premise of the joke still lingers.

[@RegularOldDan]

@@MattWhitmanTMBH Dang it. Shouldn't have started this on lunch break at work. It was all I could do to stifle my laughter.

[@FirstLast-iv2tc]

TOO funny!!!

[@truthhurts6327]

I love fairytales 😂😂

[@NotHisRealName]

As a non-patreon viewer, let me also thank the paterons for their support of this channel.

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

I continue to like you friend.

[@NotHisRealName]

@@MattWhitmanTMBH you ain't too bad yourself. 😉

[@legacy5346]

"Something that would absolutely slay in a 7th grade boys locker room"... Then you couldn't say it with a straight face.... I died.

[@EagleZtoTheGrave]

Same lol

[@نمنمننننمم]

Lol does he mean m*slims ? 😭😭😭

[@MrDavidfuchser]

I didn’t realize someone could actually take that scene and make it hilarious but you did it. I must be a 7nth grader in a grown mans body.

[@63stratoman]

The original was hilarious as well! C’mon now! You know you were busting a gut when you first saw “When Harry met Sally!” 😎

[@bioboy1819]

Noice mate! I loved this! (I edited this comment to say this)

[@ctrlaltshift]

This comment is the best! (Edit: the best)

[@MiscMitz]

Great comment. Great video too. (Edit)

[@Chirhopher]

Lol

[@bugler75]

You are a brilliant editor! Enlightenment and humour!

[@BreakChannelZero]

Loved this. Humor on point once again, with the added bonus of thought-provoking education.

[@FlintSparkedStudios]

"I'll have what she's having." Baked beans with ham coming right up.

[@dougarnold7955]

Thanks. Another good video. I loved the deadpan delivery at the beginning.

[@Anjonwalt]

Great video Matt. Love the winged hussar in the background... But WHO KIDNAPPED THE MANATEE!!!

[@keepbman]

Very well done yet again Matt. You take these confusing concepts and spell them out in ways that make sense and have some real value to people who properly have questions about this stuff. And I just became a patreon contributor on NDQ! I hope to be able to help out here too soon. PS. I definitely want a Wings Hussars Pin!!!

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

Oh, you're getting a pin my friend (and possibly mayonnaise). Serially though, thanks for supporting the show.

[@stevenrivera7642]

There were some wonderful insights in this video, but there was one phrase that stuck out to me more than the rest which may not have been intentional on your part. "So in summary, I think we can say a couple of things with relative certainty..." Though this was a transitional phrase, the terms "relative certainty" keep ringing in my head. One of the reasons I keep coming back to your videos is because you continue to reiterate that your thoughts and ideas may not be the same as others. Your message seems to come from a place of genuine humility and your word choice continues to leave a thought provoking impression on my mind. Thank you again for sharing this with us.

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

I really appreciate you catching that and hearing what I meant by it. Language like that is intentional, and it would seem you're understanding exactly why I try to use it.

[@lornadoone8887]

The Ten Minute Bible Hour It’s a great example of an oxymoron, too. 😀

[@Fishinpro322]

Wow awesome work Matt! I can tell how much time and effort you’re putting into into this and I have to say it looks great. The beard just looks so cool and rugged. Really, really good work on that! Also the video is great too!

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

Automatic heart and high five for beard appreciation.

[@wheresmyeyebrow1608]

I didn’t realise someone could actually make that scene worse than it already is but you did it Thanks

[@DustinBenton]

this is top shelf teaching and humor! great work!

[@debtortobetter]

Best opening of all time...and a great explanation of the editorial process! Thanks for breaking it down for us.

[@barnabydixon]

Destin sent me and I'm so glad he did :D

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

Me too Barnaby! Fart joke fist bump from across the pond!

[@SwineyB]

Barnaby, love your work man. Cool to see you here!

[@DanJan09]

The Passage I like to use when discussing this topic is Jeremiah 36. The whole chapter is a good look into the situation for the Prophets. The most important part for this topic though is the last verse: "...Baruch wrote on it all the words of the scroll that Jehoiakim king of Judah had burned in the fire. And many similar words were added to them."

[@wendymitchell8245]

Dan ' Jeremiah took another scroll and gave it to Baruch the scribe - who wrote from the mouth of Jeremiah all the words of the book which Jehoiakim king of Judah had burned ' ,then similar things were added ,that is more prophecies from Jeremiah ,meaning more punishments now for destroying God,s word. It seems some people are always trying to find fault ,where there is none ,almost like destroying the scroll of the prophet.

[@ThisDesignLife]

Finding your Bible videos incredibly useful.

[@michaelarcaro8815]

Another excellent video! One thing that I would like to see is how the various translations over the centuries affect the overall editing process.

[@wendymitchell8245]

Michael see the videos of Dr.James White on -The reliability of the New Testament text. Also on Inspiration and Canonization.

[@waynewrz]

Great thoughts man. Love you explanations and conclusions.

[@PeoriaAdventists]

Great vid, Matt! I appreciate your soft intro into the topic. You're clearly trying to get evangelical-types to become comfortable with the "e" word, while reassuring them it's not a slippery slope into theological liberalism. You know the topic is troubling to many evangelical-types, so you illustrate "editing" in the most conservative sense possible: the selection of psalms, proverbs, etc. -- stuff no Bible student has really ever stumbled over. That's not the sense most evangelicals have when they fear the "e" word. They're thinking of documentary hypothesis, for instance. I'd love to see you tackle the big stuff! Keep up the good work.

[@stevemasters6608]

Wow!, Matt. I never considered what the original authors may have gone through to pen their portion of the scriptures, such as editing their own work. Thanks for this thought provoking message.

[@lclyd]

3:43 "What do we have left here? like 6, 7 minutes?" **looks at almost 11 min. remaining** Yeah about that, i guess..

[@JoelKreider]

Seems like some sort of editing could have driven the point home here... I even rewound it to see if I missed a banner for ‘Actually 10:50’

[@bumblebeebob]

Did that wooden open delivery about kill you? Cause it about killed me. 🤣🤣🤣

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

I'll admit, it took me more tries than it normally does. That was outside my comfort zone.

[@bumblebeebob]

@@MattWhitmanTMBH It sure looked like it. Good job, sir.

[@k9insomniac783]

This is another great video Matt. You inspire me to bury myself deeper in the word when I hear your knowledge and confidence in what your talking about. You don't do it in a matter of factly way either. You try to add different perspectives from all angles to be fair to believers and all others as well. Keep on keepin on Brother.

[@AlexanderosD]

You tried so hard to keep that straight face! Well done sir, well done. And thank you so much for airing out this reality.

[@realmenchangediapers]

My pastor is just going through a series of sermons on the book of Psalms, and often points out how the editorial decision of which order the psalms are put is inspirational in itself. Psalm 1. Be righteous. Psalm 2. Kiss the son. Now you can enter into worship and enjoy the rest of psalms. Psalm 1 and 2 are the initial requirements.

[@sagemorrison360]

Can we get these videos up as a podcast on Spotify? Like dude, I love your videos, but I hate to use KZbin to listen to things

[@darganism4338]

Records & Roses Yeah there is a podcast version of TMBH, idk if Spotify carries it but it’s on google and apple podcasts...same content as downloadable audio.

[@jeslyngao7717]

if you have an iphone, you can download musi and search up the video and listen to it while having your screen off.

[@Noticer-in-chief]

Good vid. Another thing about the editing process worth pointing out is that it means the supposed "mistakes" or contradictions could have been changed, they could have been ironed out, but they weren't and there are reasons for it. I love when atheists and naysayers bring that stuff up, they really think that in 2000 years that Christians or the Church hadn't noticed or addressed any of their issues.

[@djmackay2011]

Or, maybe the mistakes are ok. When Jesus lived he *grew* in wisdom (Luke 2:52) this likely means that he made mistakes as he was learning-he didn't get things 100% correct 100% of the time, but he was still perfect. I think our modern ideas about what Scripture being perfect means is a bit off.

[@Noticer-in-chief]

@@djmackay2011 I'm not sure how Luke 2:52 could be construed as a mistake given that it is referring to a boy growing up and maturing. We believe Jesus was fully human ("like us in all things, sin apart") and fully divine. From the Council of Chalcedon "... Two Natures unconfusedly, unchangeably, indivisibly, inseparably; the difference of the Natures being in no way removed because of the Union, but rather the properties of each Nature being preserved, and (both) concurring into One Person and One Hypostasis ..."

[@djmackay2011]

@@Noticer-in-chief Right, and being fully human I'm inclined to think that Jesus made mistakes in his growth process. I don't think he got everything right the first time. I think 3 y/o Jesus probably said the wrong words as he was learning his language, or didn't measure correctly as he was learning his father's profession.

[@ZacharyWillFilms]

Awesome discussion! I loved it. You always pair sensibility with faith. I was expecting a little bit more of like a stance on how some such as Mormons or Islam believe that Protestant translations are edited to fit our own beliefs and would love to hear more about that (I'm sure you've already done something similar)

[@papahajek5383]

Recently I have been led to believe that while the root salvation message of the bible is unchanging, interpretation of the morality play laid out is constantly questioned and either refined, or reinterpreted. A Christian's desire to live a life that is first pleasing to God, then display a relevant witness to any observer, might change as they mature, but the root of redemption provides a firm foundation that will support changes that might seem discrediting to a non- believer. In other words I may be wrong about some of my ways, and secondary beliefs, but Jesus still lives in my heart.

[@LlywellynOBrien]

Excellent video mate! I often nitpick in comments and so try to be more conscious of being vocal with praise in order to avoid only commenting with criticism. That said, this was just plain great :)

[@deluxeassortment]

As an Atheist and former southern Baptist, I really respect your point of view and I have deep admiration for your history education and research and the way you present things. I still seek the truth, despite my categorical label of lack of belief, and I only really have respect for a small number of Christians and their opinion on historicity and faith. Just wanted you to know that.

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

I genuinely appreciate that. Thanks.

[@lornadoone8887]

Alkyl Dimethyl Benzyl Ammonium Chloride The untenable nature of 19th century Fundamentalist theories of the Scriptures’ inspiration (verbal inerrancy) have created a lot of atheists. Sad and so unnecessary, given how the early Christians understood this.

[@deluxeassortment]

@@lornadoone8887 I promise you, my church wasn't the reason I became an Atheist. It was all personal experience. It was a change I was not in control of. I wasn't in a fundamentalist church, I was actually in a more open and loving church. I was even friends with Dr. J. Chris Schofield (I dated his daughter for 3 years). I attended a class weekly for almost a decade led by a linguist with a PhD in New Testament studies. Since becoming an Atheist, I have read probably 30 popular levels books and a few scholarly books on scripture, so I feel I have a better understanding of scripture than I did as a Christian. I don't want to get into a lifetime of experiences that led me to that point, but I cna promise it wasn't my church or a lack of resources.

[@lornadoone8887]

Alkyl Dimethyl Benzyl Ammonium Chloride Thanks for clarifying. I’ve just heard so many say they became atheist because of the untenable claims of fundamentalism about the “verbally inerrant” nature of the way the Bible is inspired and to be interpreted. Then some knowledgeable scholar points out and explains some of the contradictions to that or they develop in their conscience and notice a literal interpretation and application of, for example the Israelite Conquest of Canaan, or the imprecatory Psalms is extremely morally repugnant, and it wrecks their faith in the God of Jesus Christ. Meanwhile this fundamentalist view is far from how the writers in the NT and their successors in the early Church used and interpreted these Scriptures. It’s possible to know a ton about the Scriptures and understand the mechanics and dictionary definitions of their original languages and yet get their interpretation and use extremely wrong (even with the best of intentions) because we have been cut off from a spiritual tradition of interpretation and reading (1 Corinthians 2:6-16) rooted in a real and transformative experience of the risen Christ Himself (Luke 24). Scofield himself is an example of this.

[@deluxeassortment]

@@lornadoone8887 I think a lot of people use excuses to blame the Bible or their church or their parents as to why they became atheists. But for many, and this is a serious point of contention between atheists and Christians, it's just an admittance to one's self that one has an inability to believe. They realize that as they have been singing the songs, praying to God, reading the Bible, going to church, it's all just hollow methodicism. It's not always for lack of trying, either. But, just as there are many types of Christians with many levels of faith and knowledge, so to are there many types of atheists with different levels of disbelief or rebellion. I consider myself to be a skeptic, but only insofar as that I just don't "feel" belief. It's just not there. It took me almost a decade of struggle to admit that even to myself. I would always say I was unsure of my faith anymore.

[@kkeller]

Great video. Never thought about it like that, but spot on with Psalms and Proverbs. Other evidences as well where God directed the editing verbally. Example: From Revelation 10:4 when John was told to seal up what he heard in the thunder and not write them down.

[@Hablizel]

Just look at WD-40. I took the Rocket Chemical Company 40 different tries to come up with a Water Displacement lubricant back in 1953. Great job again, Matt.

[@clips4u2006]

Ok.. First , excellent lesson. BUT...Excited for a new video from you I clicked when it showed up on my feed. The movie scene posted by itself last night on youtube. Like just that 43 sec worth. And that was it! I was like, "what in the heck is Matt doing?"

[@shaunbryan5975]

Love your videos

[@brandonjcollins1062]

Great video mate, loved it!!

[@marciagranger2410]

Thank you! I will definitely share this with my EfM group this Fall. Maybe, even lead a Theological Reflection on it...More, please!

[@Dino7759]

A very sensible intelligent look at this question. I look at the bible like a msterpiece painting. If you look really close all you see is globs and chunks of paint, but if you stand back and look at the painting as a whole, you see a beautiful painting of Jesus... Sorry you can't have messed up hair ;-)

[@DawnHub666]

A painting .. So art ? Not history .. Interesting. Pfft

[@Dino7759]

@@DawnHub666 The Bible is both history and poetry. Don't be so narrow minded...

[@rayzas4885]

DawnHub Art can be historical

[@wendymitchell8245]

Dino - no it is prophetic .

[@Darrel_Owen]

"Almost imperceptible." LOL! Riiiiight. I had to watch it a few times because I kept missing it. Finally, the light came on. ;-) That was freakin' hilarious.

[@Magigis917]

I love the points that you made and agree with your conclusion, however how do you handle the dismissal of scripture due to the human element? I have spoken with people who dismiss clear biblical teaching and use the human authorship of scripture as their reasoning, saying that it was a cultural or social issue of the writers day and does not apply today.

[@IndianaJoe0321]

Don't allow them to put you on the defensive. The onus would actually be on the individual making those claims -- to prove her/his point. Remember: God inspired the Bible, written over a period of about 1500 years, with roughly 40 different writers. Yet none of it is contradictory. Sounds like a miracle to me.

[@djmackay2011]

The most compelling thing I've heard about the human authorship of Scripture has to do with incarnational theology. In the same way that Jesus was fully man and fully God (and a lot of people have a problem with that, don't get me wrong), and we don't question his credibility as a teacher and messiah, so too we can have a text that was fully inspired by God and also fully written by human authors.

[@davidquaid8549]

No blinking the entire intro! Color me impressed.

[@brady1407]

An example of editing that no one can refute (either way) is that the LXX is LONGER in the Old Testament. We have 151 Psalms, and there is an additional chapter of (2nd?) Chronicles, plus a few odd verses. Look into the differences between the LXX and MT, it’s astonishing. If we look at Esther and Daniel, the Latin Vulgate and LXX both have “additions.” We have additional BOOKS! Now you can argue night and day over who added and who took away, I think it was the Protestants who took away. But there was some editing and some manuscripts corrupted over the years. But on the whole we have at least 66 books of (mostly) perfect renderings of the old manuscripts.

[@kkgruver]

Really like your videos and info. We were discussing this in our small group at church. We are reading through Case for Christ by Lee Strobel and dealing with some of the same questions. Thanks for the videos.

[@GLK_DIAMOND]

Matt love your thoughts. Your channel is one of my favorites. The biggest editor was Luther ripping books out of the Bible. He removed books that had been Bible for a 1000 years and 3 of those books Jesus referred to in the New Testament. And left over 30 that Christ never referred to. Now that’s editing. 📝

[@carlafoss9248]

Great stuff! And my husband loved the edited clip! 😝

[@benbarker8154]

I do not know if this counts as editing but there was a verbal component that was passed down prior to being written. At first, the account was written on scrolls (and sometimes tablets!). These scrolls eventually became books. The books were broken down into chapter and verse. Now the books are available in verbal and text formats on your smartphone. Secondly, the language(s) selected changed over time. Language have distinct ideas that may or may not translate well into other languages. Additionally language can change over time. Any thoughts?

[@henrybn14ar]

Yes. Translations from the Hebrew are from the heavily edited Masoretic text. The famous phrase 'through a glass darkly' can only really be understood if you know that 'glass' means looking glass ie mirror, and that in the seventeenth century, glass was green and to get rid of the green, the glassmakers added manganese dioxide which has a pink tint but made the glass a dark grey colour.

[@GodlogicProject]

Great explanation of integrity of the Bible. I also had a chance to watch your Pontius Pilot episode.... excellent!!! For a break from theology, I watched "Smarter Every Day" last night.... and... there's MATT!!! 😄

[@andrewholzschuh944]

BOOM! really well put. I like how you said "why would God, who's partnering with human authors, NOT walk someone through a careful editorial process to make it awesome and readable and something that WOULD stand the test of time?" good quote!

[@robertunderwood1011]

But its not readable. Have you read it? Is it relevant to YOUR LIFE? Most of it could be discarded and most of us would never miss it.

[@robertunderwood1011]

If you want something that stands the test of time , read some of the old Hindu legends. Whether you believe in flying monkeys ( Hanuman) or talking snakes, its all sweet good fun. It all holds a moral point. Lord of the Rings works just as well except we already know that it is fiction.

[@spawnage170]

At first I thought the manatee wasn’t in this video, but then I saw it nestled back there on the shelf. All is well.

[@flo7295]

this was a very interesting video!!! love it!!!

[@gregwilliams2928]

first of all I'd like to say I love you guys at the TMBH you've been a real help on my journey to Christ right now I'm asking for help just some advice really recently I've come across the 1st volume of Josephus writings and from what I'm told it shouldn't sound too uplifting to Christians because of his position but so far it sounds very uplifting the book I'm reading is from the 1820s and if you could point me in the right direction or just tell me what to ignore in this book that would be great if not thank you anyway peace and blessings 😂 just relieved I was reading the dissertation before his writings starts

[@jacksonnickd]

Loving your channel and the thoughtful intellectual integrity you bring--esp. in your church visits. Question, how do you know Moses wrote the Tanakh?

[@robertunderwood1011]

Well....Matt just showed you why there is reason to doubt that Moses wrote all of it... Or maybe none of it altho that might be stretching the point.

[@physicsphantasam]

so editing can fall into different categories. pre-publishing and post- publishing are 2 that I can think of. of those 2 you only addressed the 1 pre-publishing. I don't think many people have a problem with that. but post publishing that I would say has a bigger issue that can affect peoples confidence in the Bible. perhaps you could address that issue. I mean in your opinion did some unknown person go back and edit Jeremiah so it looked like he prophesied the Babylonian captivity? did the church revise mark to match Mathew? I mean the Bible has amazing continuity from the proto-Evangelion to the cross and all the foreshadowing in-between. in my opinion, it is miraculous. but it others option someone may have edited it here or there to make it fit better.

[@physicsphantasam]

what I thought I was getting with the title of this video -was the Bible fundamentally altered by a third party editor from what the authors intended what I got from this video -the original authors most certainly tweaked what they wrote to make sure it said what they wanted

[@robertcourtemanche9185]

What I was hoping to see what a video about the later construction of the Bible at the Council of Nicea and later translations into English. That seems to be another area of much controversy about editing and changes to the Bible.

[@bschena]

This.

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

I've touched on those things in lots of other videos, including the misconception that the Bible was somehow constructed at the Council of Nicea (it is a matter of historical fact that it was not).

[@lisabeshay5123]

This was really interesting, thank you! I do have a question though and I apologize if it’s a bit dumb. So I know the Bible is inspired by God and written by humans but why was it that the editing process was even necessary? Since God inspired it, would that have meant he had inspired “extra” bits but didn’t guide the authors to include them? I’m just confused as to why anything extra was told by God to the authors in the first place, if that makes sense? Instead of just everything that would be included in the “final cut” per se I can also be misunderstanding entirely, but I hope that made sense. Please help 😂

[@thecolourtone]

Matt, I lost my mind when the WHMS clip started. Laughed far too loud in my office.

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

I'm delighted to think that I was able to negatively affect your standing in your workplace today :)

[@jamnich1]

I like your discussion on this topic, and the editorial process makes sense. But, I think that the 'editing' that most people refer to when they talk about the Bible being edited is stuff that was put in later or altered after the original author finished writing it. (You kind of addressed this when you spoke about the death of Moses.) Most of the people that make those claim say that when the King James version of the Bible was translated, it had alterations made to mold the religion how King James wanted it. I think it would have been interesting to see you take that point head on and address it. Personally, I think we can take the Hebrew Bible that is still in use by the Jewish community and check to see if the Old Testament was modified because the Jewish would have had no reason to be influenced by King James' translators.

[@5BBassist4Christ]

As a composer, it's interesting observing compositions of other composers in history. There are certain composers that people honestly feel like their works were divinely inspired (even by God). Such composers being Bach and Pope Gregory the Great. Pope Gregory, there is even a myth that a spiritual dove would sit on his shoulder (and nobody else could see it) singing songs into his ear, and when he wrote music, it was the music the dove sang to him. In my own compositions, sometimes I get nervous about continuing a work, because what I've done already sounds so musically inspired that I'm afraid to compose when not inspired and ruin the inspiration over the grand masterwork. For this reason, I have to train myself to not have too high of a view of inspiration, to think that things are strictly divinely inspired to the point of us having the ability to mess it up if we don't write every note, every rhythm, every marking on the page perfectly accurate to acquire that perfect inspiration. Is history being written or unraveled? If it's being unraveled, then everything we do has already been done, and we can't mess it up. But if it's being written, then what we write is judged by the quality of its craft. Divine involvement is then the strengthening to achieve the excellent quality that we call inspiration. Beethoven didn't have to have the clarinets join the bass and cello on the opening line of his fifth symphony, he decided to do so. Why? Honestly, I don't know. But I know he knew what he was doing and had a reason to do so, not because he was destined to write the iconic symphony, but because he had the skill, wisdom, discipline, training, and passion to write at such a level. I don't believe God is into mediocracy, so why would God have the people whom He uses to write the scriptures suddenly sit down and start writing things they've never thought about, but just so happen to write the truth? I think God wants us to be disciplined in knowing Him, in studying and reasoning with the hardest parts of life in our pursuit to know wisdom. Then when we have trained in these ways, God can use our training and discipline to lead to inspiration. Thereby, it makes sense that the writings of the Bible were very critically examined by the writers long before the writings became canonized. Yes, God can and does reveal divine wisdom in a matter of the moment, but this is done by people who have been disciplined in the wisdom and character of God. After several years sitting in a specific church with a specific pastor, there came a time that I was about to start predicting what he was going to say next in his sermon. Those who study God don't have to always consider an answer to a matter, but by applying what they've studied about God can immediately predict what God would say about the matter. True inspiration is the discipline we bring in a critical analysis of our own creations.

[@DawnHub666]

All art is divine.

[@Ziggs88]

Great video! I think what I was uncomfortable with at first was my understanding of editing. I am totally onboard with the fact that the writes of the bible didn't just spew it all out in one go. My disagreement would have come in if you meant that someone meaningfully edited it after the fact.

[@FuzzyToasterMeister]

What happened to the manetee? Is it ok? I need assurance. Did Destin finally steal it?

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

The manatee is behind me on my bookshelf to the right. Intact, happy, and enjoying the shade.

[@FuzzyToasterMeister]

Phew!

[@TOHETOTEHOT]

Whaaat? Something needs to be done about that.

[@jimm.1013]

I think of the Muslim argument for the Quran goes something like, "Unlike the Bible, the Quran has never been changed." Actually, I think the word used is not "changed" but "corrupted". I have responded that if God sees the changing ways of mankind on earth then maybe he wants to occasionally make changes. But on to the atheist... There has to be evidence that the Bible has any connection to a god and really before that question is addressed, it has to be shown that there is a god. Any question about the bible being edited is irrelevant, at least in terms as to any holy connection.

[@protochris]

"little naked chubby butted angels", I haven't seen those dudes around for a long time.

[@IsaqueLopesCampello]

awesome video! What's up with the wedding ring though?

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

I wear it to celebrate my marriage.

[@IsaqueLopesCampello]

@@MattWhitmanTMBH Lol, makes sense, it's just that it looks different from the other videos. The sort of thing you notice when binge watching a bunch of them :)

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

Yeah, my wife and I switch to these nonmetal rings about eight months ago, and we haven't looked back. It's super comfortable, and I find myself leaving it on all the time instead of taking it off whenever I'm working with tools.

[@boomfiziks]

My inner child was laughing hysterically through out your video...makes my farting noises. The grown up part of me found the content very informative and enlightening.......and snickering at my inner child’s antics.

[@convert2islaam500]

Where did you buy/get the Holy Bible in this video?

[@TheMrMKultra]

Yamz_MG As far as I know he uses some sort of study bible with the NIV translation (not the most recent version, something a few years old). NIV is what you should look for if you want one of these. Most are no study bibles and are therefore not as big

[@misseli1]

Excellent video!

[@barefootanimist]

The removal of the Apocrypha was another example of editing. There is plenty of wisdom in the books which were removed, though I'm not sure what motivated their removal...

[@TwistTimHansel]

Several reasons based on the book, some had out of historical context events happening, some had bad theology that contradicted the rest of the scripture around it, some had no theology and were just historical works that tied together time frames.... while all are useful for study, we must remember they are not cannon and know the reasons why before getting into them.

[@chancewiese4872]

@@TwistTimHansel The Council of Hippo included it in the original canon *shrugs*

[@lornadoone8887]

The bottom line of why these books do not appear in the Protestant Bible: the polemics of the Reformation vs. Counter-Reformation provoked by the abuses of the Medieval Catholic Church under the Pope in Rome. The Greek translation of the OT in use at the time of Christ became “the Scriptures” of the early Church along with the writings that came to be included in the NT for its first two hundred years, and this version contains those books. I defy anyone to read the Wisdom of Solomon or Wisdom of Sirach and explain why these do not deserve to be called Scripture inspired of God on a par and even surpassing books like Proverbs and Ecclesiastes. Echoes of many of their passages can be clearly seen in the moral teaching of Jesus and His Apostles in the NT. The Jews in fact did not rule on what ought to be their canonical Scriptures until 300 years after the death of Christ at the Council of Jamnia, and they did not exclude these books from their list of authoritative writings until that time. The early Church Fathers saw Wisdom of Solomon 2:12-22 as fulfilled in the Pharisees’ treatment of Christ in the NT, and this may be another clue as to why these books were not included in the later Hebrew Bible texts, as it is only the Jewish sect of the Pharisees that survived the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD (as well as those Jews who had become Christians).

[@AndrewC4]

Hey Matt! Have you ever checked out The Naked Bible podcast with Mike Heiser? If not, I think you’d definitely enjoy the resource!! Thanks for all you do, brother 👍🏼

[@andy8041]

Absolutely slayed the worship team, too.

[@jonbass6346]

Not disagreeing by any stretch, but more so for clarity and to avoid confusion: Does this mean the earlier drafts weren't inspired by the Holy Spirit? Why then would something be removed if it came from God? As usual, great video Matt!

[@joelancon7231]

Its more of that the editing was in guided by the Holy spirit and the good stuff was guided by the Holy Spirit

[@DawnHub666]

Divine editing ... Bw@aaaa

[@jamespurcer3730]

I was under the impression that the Israelites had an oral tradition for teaching, learning and preserving the oracles of God at the time of Moses which much later became a written tradition because the teachings were greatly expanded by priests. The editing likely took place during the transition from oral to written tradition.

[@IndianaJoe0321]

The editing continued for many centuries. For example, read the 1st few verses of the very 1st chapter of Ezekiel. Is the pronoun "I" or "he?" The answer is "yes." If you ever get a chance to look at some of those old manuscripts from thousands of years ago (you can actually see some photos on the Internet) you'll notice copyist/scribal glosses on the side columns -- little notes where the copyists/scribes are attempting to seeking/attempting to clarify a word or phrase. Yet, despite all those glosses, God's Word remains intact -- no doctrine is affected in any way.

[@loveworksnoevil]

i thought that was the original scene in the movie, but the grandma part didnt make sense with it

[@ClaytonMcPherson]

Where's the Manatee, Matt? Where's the Manatee?!

[@JoelKreider]

Re: FuzzyToasterMeister’s query... All’s fine n dandy. Appears that Manatees enjoy a break from the lime light, every so often.

[@klarag7059]

I’m a middle aged woman and I prefer your edit of that When Harry Met Sally scene.

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

Lol, I like your style Klara.

[@klarag7059]

The Ten Minute Bible Hour right back at you.

[@lornadoone8887]

Klara G Me, too! I’m 58 and I got a huge kick out of that! 😆

[@klarag7059]

Lorna Doone that’s cool. It’s an improvement to the shameful original version. BTW, did you know, the woman who says, “I’ll have what she’s having”, is the Director’s (Producer’s?), mother?! By his request too.

[@tylerlizzotte6236]

This is very Good. Love it. It WAS edited. The ideas of God existed before the writing of the Bible. Through his spirit and through word of mouth and because of the truth. Men wrote what was passed down to them by God. Through word of mouth and in spirit and in knowledge of the truth, Into The coherent "Word from God". The old testament was edited by making a compilation of most important Jewish History texts. Wich became their Tanach(Jewish bible). The new testament writers also compiled most significant writings. The Bible is a combination of minds through time periods writing knowingly and and sometimes unknowingly yet through God, to get the message of God out there and set in stone on paper in specific words. ones that were most important pertaining of the truth of God. Gods literal word for human kind.

[@Judahmangi]

First time I've ever heard someone say "look, I have a really high view of the Bible" that wasn't immediately followed by them undermining and/or ignoring the Bible in extremely egregious ways. So props for that.

[@braydenshanley7435]

Judah Matthews Why shouldn’t we ignore it?

[@r.sampson1421]

Can you explain to me how you differentiate between prophecy and its fulfillment in the text? And spots where things are edited? All I am saying is that your explanation, that is good and clear. Doesn't it leave a opening for skeptics to say that all prophecy is simply edited after the fact.

[@robertunderwood1011]

All prophesy is edited after the fact.

[@exexgay]

I just found your channel. I really liked the Greek Orthodox video. Anyway, I was hoping you were going to address the editing during translation. Instead of using the revealed name of God modern translators of the Bible use what is referred to as the “covenant name.” So instead of accurately translating this word, it is translated as LORD or GOD. The “ord” and “od” are often capitalized in a smaller font. Both the rabbinical and Christian bibles have taken out all of the feminine references to God as well. Except for “Wisdom” in the book of Proverbs. It is very difficult to maintain a patriarchal religion if God is both male and female. This was interesting. I am not a Christian, but I used to be one for years. I am not an atheist and I love what Jesus has to say, but I don’t believe his intention was to create a new religion.

[@dandolphs]

Your thoughts on the 'lost books' of the bible?

[@paterfamilias2410]

Daniel Dugger they’re not lost. The Catholic Church has had them since it put the Bible together. Luther removed them.

[@greatjaygatsby]

Do you also think that editing the text, i.e. in the 15th century helped, and do you believe that what you read Today in John is the original source document?

[@SimplyDudeFace]

Okay, flag on the play. If your understanding and belief is that all editing of the book was done under divine inspiration... then why is this even a topic of discussion? I'm not being snarky or trolling here. If DI is a thing, then does not the book and all of its translations have a halo around them? Isn't that merely a half step from those who think the book was popped into being complete as the stone tables were? Why give it any thought?

[@SamStGeorge]

Thanks for bringing this info and God bless you. BUT we know that Joshua completed the last book of Moses especially Moses Death and Burial. After all, Joshua WAS Moses's Student and trainee, Patina and Successor in leading eh Israelites

[@KevnReid]

This seems like a weird hill to die on. How can we be sure that it was Joshua? The evidence you give is good at suggesting Joshua should be considered as a possibility but not enough to close the book on that question. More importantly, why is it necessary that Joshua wrote it? What is gained by insisting that it was him?

[@JoelReid]

fantastic episode. We can not forget that human influence wrote the bible... the spirit may guide and direct, but it is a human text.

[@DanielMKlem]

Personally, I see Deuteronomy as Moses taking Joshua under his wing and saying, "I want you to rewrite what we have been through these 40 years, kind of a summary." Moses was his editor, and then when he died, Joshua finished it.

[@BillB23]

Paul, take a letter... NOT! e.g. Genesis 1 and 2 use two different styles, vocabularies, and themes to describe the same events. I'm firmly convinced that the editors were just as divinely inspired as the authors. I also thing the same thing applies, in some instances, to variant readings (ms. X differs from ms. Y.) Test the spirits! Nice work.

[@markcornelius8802]

Good points on Genesis; we run into serious editorial questions straight out of the gate there. I enjoyed this video, but was expecting more discussion of editing/curating beyond that of the authors.

[@chaplainpaul5326]

I believe this particular video is the most important video on KZbin, here’s why. Many Christians seem foolishly committed to attacking other Christians based upon their selection of Bible translation. The king James only crowd attacks the others for reading a corrupted demonically influenced Bible. The modern translation crowd attacks the king James for including forged and fraudulent additions to Scripture. Both of these positions make our faith look foolish and harm the body of Christ. But the real issue is whether or not we want the most accurate reading closest to the original autographs, or if we want the fullest version with the most edits over time. I don’t hear anyone claiming that the end of Deuteronomy is forged, nor do I hear people say that they want to have a Bible without the ending of Deuteronomy. But, it’s the exact same issue. The king James version has all the little fixes and edits that were made by the teachers and the scribes. The modern translations try to reject all of those edits. When seen in this light and compared to the many edits we know are there as clearly shown in your video, This perspective solves or at least clarifies the controversy. Well done Matt. Great video!

[@dimesonhiseyes9134]

Is that a copy of Don quiote behind your right ear?

[@edwardmancuso9741]

FOUR SOURCES OF AUTHORITY (men, philosophy, feelings & scripture ) 2 Cor 11:13-15 “Such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan, himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then that his servants masquerade as agents of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.” 2 Col 2:8 “See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow & deceptive philosophy that depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than Christ.” Jer 17:9 “The heart is deceitful above all things & beyond cure. who can understand it? The Lord searches the heart and examines the mind, to reward a man according to his conduct, according to what his deeds deserve.” 2 Tim 3:16 “All scripture is God breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness.” (2 Pet 3:16 confirms Paulz epistles as scripture) 2 Pet 1:20-21 “Above all you must understand that no prophecy of scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God, as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.” (not divination; Acts 8; 14 -25, Gal 5:20, 1 Sam 15:23)

[@roddumlauf9241]

Obviously , the Bible has been edited by humans in a human process.Look at the great differences in Eastern Bibles and our Western Bibles. Each use a different ancient Hebrew text type family to translate. Paul himself made an editorial choice to use the Greek Isaiah text when building his theology in Romans rather than Hebrew Isaiah.....both significantly different in wording and content.

[@jameskearney4100]

At least in my Bible? You said it.

[@Impact_Player]

When people usually say 'the bible is edited', they don't mean that a careful, editorial process took place in order to make certain teachings and events accessible and able to withstand time. They tend to mean that the bible is corrupted/full of corruptions. Usually, the ones who bring up this topic of the bible being edited are also the ones who don't place their trust in it. They see the various versions and different translations and interpretations that developed, not knowing the histories and traditions of denominations and cultures, and come to the conclusion that many hands were involved editing (or manipulating) the text in order to suit their agendas. When hyper-conservative or fundamentalist people try to defend the bible by saying that it's inerrant or that God moved the hands of the authors to write, I think this is what they're responding to. In the modern age, as much as we try, christians can't avoid the culture war thats going on. There are those in the secular camp that seeks to critique and deconstruct various aspects of western civilization, especially its religious undertones. I think when people have this view of the bible as "a book that dropped from heaven", as some pastors tend to say now, it's really just common people who sense whats going on around them in the culture and are trying to defend (in their own way) this critique. Kind of like how fundamentalism was also a response to the growing secularization of the culture. I can recall many times I would be talking to friends or girlfriends and anytime something remotely christian pops up, there's always an unsolicited "Yeah, well we all know the bible was edited anyways, so..." response to end the conversation before it can go any further. I know alot of christians are in the same place I am. They are surrounded by secularists/atheists who feel edgy enough to drop these ignorant quotes to have those checkmate moments but not honest enough to look into the subject matter to make sure what they're saying makes sense. And so, I just think that having that book from heaven mentality is just a response to this kind of lazy thinking. I also think this is why muslims claim that the quran was never edited. If you can claim that your book was never edited, then that gives it some kind of purity status. There's this sort of thinking where the older something is, the more "pure" it is. I've also encountered this logic in other people, such as pagans. It's like you need to have the original thing in order for it to be "pure" or "legit". To me, it's just all a reaction to whats going on around them.

[@jdmitz]

Ok, where's the manatee?

[@JoelKreider]

Re: FuzzyToasterMeister’s inquiry of well-being of the belov’d tiny mammal representation. All is well.

[@aviktopchyan6465]

I don't think that "of Moses", or "of David", or "of Solomon" necessary means "written by Moses, David, Solomon"... It seems to be that book could be attributed or dedicated to someone, but doesn't mean it was literally written word-by-word by a person mentioned. Besides, help from a scribe was used even by Apostle Paul... So the "of Paul" does not automatically mean "written by".

[@lornadoone8887]

Avik Topchyan Yes, as I understand this scholars believe there was an oral tradition passed down as coming from Moses (no reason to believe the revelation to Moses wasn’t its original source) and edited and compiled by others in the Jewish community into the Torah. Same for many books in the NT. Mark’s Gospel is understood to come from Peter’s Apostolic teaching ministry and written down by Mark, his assistant.

[@Kintizen]

If you really get into the language of the Old Testament. Genesis 1 to 11 come from Babylonian background. While Genesis 12 to 50 and the other 3 Books of Law has a Egyptian background. It is the largest biblical editorial evidence.

[@IndianaJoe0321]

Agreed. Also: Deuteronomy, Ezekiel, Acts, etc.

[@grantstevensbreak]

That funk music is en fuego.

[@MattWhitmanTMBH]

Strongly agree.

[@anglomik]

That was frightening.

[@suebroyles7600]

Laughed myself silly thanks