Was the Republic DROID ARMY or the Separatist CLONE ARMY Stronger on the Battlefield?

[@neofulcrum5013]

Separatist clones and Republic Droids. That’s one hell of a butterfly timeline.

[@cosmichorizon3273]

Ikr lmfao

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Welp, time to check out our Multiverse maps and readings and maybe explore that odd universe or two.

[@geetslys]

It sure is lol 😂

[@Obsidian_Gargantuan_Leviathan]

what is next? republican isd and imperial venator??

[@noeldraco]

There needs to be a what if comic

[@rmansfield6]

The Shadow Army was so brutal that even Mara Jade, a die-hard imperial loyalist most of her life, abandoned the empire when she thought Thrawn was doing something similar

[@macanderson4322]

Wait really? Did she directly mention the separatist army in the Thrawn books?

[@rmansfield6]

@@macanderson4322 No, this was 10 years or so before episode one was even thought of when people thought the clones were the bad guys. The SHadow Army was made to explain her and Captain Palleon's comments of crazy clones

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@rmansfield6 And it turned out to be a cool story all of its own.

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@rmansfield6 It’s so fun to read the Thrawn trilogy and the OT novelizations and see how ideas were originally interpreted or portrayed, knowing what later Legends would decree-like how the original novelization for Star Wars the motion picture more or less explicitly stated the Emperor was a puppet of bureaucrats and corporations. Yet later this became more akin to the characterization of the Late Republic…

[@indianajones4321]

Republic: has a clone army CIS: has a droid army Geetsly’s: UNO REVERSE CARD!!!!!

[@geetslys]

Flip the switch

[@indianajones4321]

@@geetslys switch the flip

[@rainbowpeanut2568]

@@indianajones4321 switch flip the

[@tylerrassi4148]

@@rainbowpeanut2568 Flip the switch

[@FFangsYt]

@@tylerrassi4148 peanut butter bread

[@OhOh996]

Imagine replacing the GAR’s battle cry of “FOR THE REPUBLIC” to just “roger roger”.

[@geetslys]

Now that would be too weird

[@watch50er]

“Engaging target”

[@inquisitorgarza312]

The Clone Wars were massive in scale and several different usage of military units, and no doubt they spread across the Galaxy. Recruitable soldiers were probably used to occupy planets or fight in their local sectors, battle droids were used as cannon fodders or extra personal on ships, and clone were used for specialized training and special operations.

[@z-man1237]

The fact that the Jedi needed to use blasters against these clones is proof how pretty effective they were. Cool

[@autotune1835]

So uncivilized - Obi-Wan, on Utapau 😂😂😂

[@ramarblood7697]

Jedi: Time to un-nerf myself.

[@FastTquick]

Something I’d like to see is a video about Rebel SpecForce commandos vs. Imperial Storm Commandos. Probably the closest thing as you can get to Rebel Stormtroopers and Imperial rebels respectively.

[@neofulcrum5013]

I’d love to have specforce back into canon.

[@DIEGhostfish]

3:16 You would think that since Ventress killed almost everyone else in the arena by USING the droid Tagge Co would NOT have written the footage off as a failure, unless Dooku had the footage destroyed and all TaggeCo knew was that their droid did not win the tournament.

[@FastTquick]

I’m going to give it to the Morgukai. Even if the SD-6s were absolute units that could tear lesser droids apart, they are still vulnerable to the same issues as the Separatist droids. Any Morgukai warrior can outmaneuver the droids’ slow response times and inability to perform outside-the-box strategies.

[@FalconWindblader]

Definitely. Despite being essentially berserkers with little mind for strategies & absolutely a hell lot dumber than the average clone trooper, there's still no denying that they're way smarter than what's essentially walking turrets.

[@UGNAvalon]

SD-6: “Separatism detected on Republic soil. Lethal force engaged.” “Death is a preferable alternative to Separatism.”

[@JettQuasar]

The Clone Troopers were more effective but were much more expensive and took longer to produce in large numbers.

[@geetslys]

Yes, where as the droids could be mass produced quickly but we’re not as effective.

[@someonecalledragnarok1908]

@@geetslys were*

[@moriskurth628]

2:02 I knew Wolf's Dragoons worked for pretty much any major power in the Inner Sphere, but that they worked for the Galactic Republic is news to me. /j

[@MandoMTL]

Imagine an army of Anakin clones with "Ultra Mommy Issues" programming.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

By the Force, no! On a joking matter, just add sand, and insta-defeat... or insta-make things worse than expected.

[@muhammadksatriaakbarariend8684]

Me standing in mt Everest: Unlimited power!

[@phurian_6560]

The shadow army is an awesome concept, wish we saw them in the clone wars

[@michelecastellotti9172]

They would've been nerfed to uselessness

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

@@michelecastellotti9172 Precisely, like everything Filoni touches.

[@michelecastellotti9172]

@@yrooxrksvi7142 him, favrou and the other guy who made tbobf

[@sebastianstefanski3380]

The separatists wouldn't ever be able to create something as beautiful and powerfull as a clone trooper

[@neofulcrum5013]

Unless they got their hands on jango’s DNA. Imagine clones wearing armor that resembles B1s color scheme.

[@geetslys]

Exactly because the republic had unlimited Temuera Morrison’s 😂

[@lepmuhangpa]

A Maori Mandalorian, innit?

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

@@lepmuhangpa yes.

[@imperialtrooper927]

Uhhh, I thought this video makes it clear, a clone trooper stands little chance against a morgukai clone?

[@amysargent4237]

You know what battle you could do next? Grand Admiral Thrawn, versus Darth Revan! I know Eckhartsladder did a video on this topic, but I want to know what YOU think, Geetsly.

[@amysargent4237]

Battle of The Star Wars galaxy's greatest tactical minds.

[@zexalbrony4799]

I knew the Morgukai would win, it was closer than I thought, but after hearing all they did in the Battle of Salucima in a previous video I knew they would win. Also, nice outro, throwing more shade at that failure of a Sequal Trilogy.

[@amanzeihedioha]

I liked Bok. I liked his name, his story, his everything. My money's on Seps....but those Droid Commando episodes with R2 and his crew....make me question my dedication to Bok and his boys🤔

[@marcpaulus6291]

Didnt know the Republic also fielded Archer Battlemechs.

[@inquisitorichijou883]

You noticed the image too, huh?

[@darkmantrid741]

Nice I totally caught that too

[@DIEGhostfish]

I guess some Wolf's Dragoons had a misjump. Judging by the unit marker.

[@lerneanlion]

B1 Battle Droids: Wait! Don't shoot! We're droids too! SD-6 Hulks: I DON'T CARE! B1 Battle Droids: Roger roger... P.S: Another reason why the Old Republic's era was so great because they heavily relied on the an army made of Battle Droids.

[@DIEGhostfish]

2:20 that's an SD-9 one of Balmora's later projects. Made in the Imperial Remnant era they showed up in Dark Empire. Later sources said they used bits scavenged from the Dark Trooper project.

[@davidshea6272]

I'm guessing there isn't a lot of art of the Republics battle droids, because at 2:05 thats actually a Wolfs Dragoons Archer battlemech firing on another Archer, both from the Battletech universe.

[@littleshep5502]

both are wolf dragoons, its the cover art of Wolf Pack

[@zackfilmsentertainment3048]

Looks like another design from Robotech/Macross (Destroid Spartan) that inspired the unseen mechs eh?

[@MT-sz4sw]

The amount knowledge and information about the Star Wars history hidden in the comics is insanely vast, every time I see the comics arcs I feel like I've so much yet to learn

[@majorsilly8966]

My mind at 5:10 just 🤯 when seeing Jedi using clone trooper blasters shooting right next to them platinum on top of gold

[@paolopesare3566]

This happens several Times in the "Republic" comic series

[@LairdErnst]

Fascinating. Surprised we don’t hear more about this kind of use of droids and clones…

[@phoenixrq9139]

2:06 thats an Archer from BattleTech, neat

[@Commander10.]

Separatist clone army makes sense

[@halomika4973]

Republic droid army :)

[@MrDarthCIS]

It’s a real shame Disney haven’t included any of this in the new canon.

[@tiggytheimpaler5483]

2:16 Those are mechs from battletech specifically the bottom mech is fighting on behalf of the Wolfs Dragoons a Merc company

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

If you haven’t already talked about Stormtrooper Davin Felth, now would be a good time to do so.

[@Dostoron]

can we hear more about balmorran arms someday? they are said to have built bar none THE best battle droids in the galaxy, no?

[@zapdragon23]

2:08 never though I'd see wolf's dragoons in a geetsly's video

[@seb2750]

2:02 Battletech Wolf Dragoon Archer. lol wat the ....

[@HistorysRaven]

"... (W)as basically a mobile turret." You're telling me we could have a Gundam story within the Star Wars universe? Let's go!

[@Godzilla00X]

The republic Droid army led by the force sensitive dictator, Yoda vs the CIS clone army led by the grandfatherly force master Palpatine would be a fun what if scenario

[@Nerdy_The_Punk]

I like how it was called the clone wars by everyone you think the empire would of named them the Droid wars

[@DIEGhostfish]

8:33 Well a Rebel Stormtrooper that doesn't get sidelined would be Kyle Katarn.

[@ShawnCadieux1984]

I follow so many pages like this and I knew any the separatist but its also nice to find out something new Never knew they used droids outside the old republic

[@littleshep5502]

2:07 Im sorry, but those are Archer battlemechs, taken from the cover art of Wolf Pack written by Robert N Charrette, Although I guess you could count them as moving turrets

[@My19922]

What if in an alternate scenario the "clone wars" was actually a war fought with two opposing clone armies mixed with non clones and battle droids .

[@VaciliNikoMavich]

I think it would depend on what sort of battleground they both tussled with eachother on. If it was open fround, i get the feeling the Republuc droids coild win. If it was CQC, the Morgukai would win.

[@tianoc-g4811]

Next I would love to see an analysis of a war between the Yuuzhan Vong and the Reapers ( Star Wars Legends vs Mass Effect)

[@johncross1095]

Could an army of Grievous clones be viable?

[@slicerneons3300]

If we could watch the fight onscreen, then we would be the winners.

[@rainbowpeanut2568]

Damn straight

[@eddapultstab2078]

At 2:15 you showed a picture of 2 archers from the battletech handbook "wolf dragoons". The one on the center featured their emblem on their leg.

[@oliverhayes1160]

Uno reverse card

[@indianajones4321]

Lol

[@AdrianMartinez-ho6db]

This channel will never cease to impress. But this vid idea was awesome. Ngl i fuckin love the morgukai shadow army

[@BengtRosini13]

Poor Fin, got tossed aside like old bread.

[@isnorttannerite539]

Cheap battle droids like b1s matched with arcs and commados would be op

[@Venator631]

Imagine if the AAT was used along side the at-te the AAT taking the main battle role and the at-te taking a support role.

[@greatazuredragon]

You kinda inverted the Droid and Clone places on the title. As far as I know it was the Republic that had Clones and the Separatists had Droids. ^^

[@flyingpigproductions5934]

Yeah I can't believe they made such a dumb mistake, what idiots 😂

[@lordMartiya]

Only reason the Morgukai did well in the siege was that the Republic was forced in a frontal assault with no support weapons or long range fire (or even medium range fire). The Republic droids would have wiped them out nine times out of ten in any , you can't counter heavy firepower so easily without a theatre shield.

[@generalcat7678]

The battle would depend on multiple things one what equipment both sides there using and what tactics they’re using

[@shadowwriter329]

8:28-8:33 oooh, shots fired!

[@Karlos1234ify]

The answer is simple: Good Soldiers follow orders.

[@jameskent577]

Okay so hear me out, Anakin was NOT the chosen one. The prophecy said he'd bring balance which was seen as defeating the sith, except he didn't. In canon Sidious survived the altercation and started growing clones. The sith weren't destroyed on the 2nd death star they simply went back into hiding, Admittedly he was powerful but no chosen one.... but I'd love to get your input on it

[@IHateMilkbruh]

Bringing balance to the force doesn't mean making it overpowered in light. He brought balance by *balancing* it, there were too many Jedi but not really any sith anymore, and his fall to the dark side made things waaaaaay more balanced. Tl:Dr he balanced it by actually making things even.

[@defiler4569]

Okay...A BattleTech picture with two Archers brawling one from the Wolfsdragoon and another from an unknown faction. And this is used as a reference to Star Wars Battledroids? Get out lol.

[@flyingpigproductions5934]

The republic droids don't have that many pictures, they're not referenced nearly enough times. Usually most just show up in their debut story, and maybe cameo in a couple others. On the opposite end of that are the Separatist Morkugai clones, who had a whole comic arc. So I feel like it's pretty understandable to use a few similar images to keep the screen moving while you talk

[@littleshep5502]

Both are Wolf Dragoons, its the cover art of Wolf Pack, or the civil war in the merc group

[@Marcus-ev8bq]

I think they could have just thrown in JarJar Binks's DNA into the separatist clone batch and then the clones would been useless. 😄

[@fritzmierow8346]

I give the win to the Wolf's Dragoons Archer from 2:14.

[@rmansfield6]

8:30 Kyle Katarn was a Stormtrooper.

[@TheWarmachine375]

What If for Republic having a Droid Army while Separatists having a Clone Army role reversal.

[@DefinitelyNotEmma]

I had to read the title twice xD

[@JPlaysDrums96]

Loved that Finn line😅 but would Republic clones stand a chance against Separatist clones?

[@DIEGhostfish]

1:42 Balmorra just doesn't give a fuck. They'll rebel against anyone who tries to stop them from selling weapons to anyone. 2:13 Waiiiit a second. That's BATTLETECH art! A Wolf's Dragoons Archer shooting at what looks to be another Archer! I know Stackpole wrote for both franchises but unless this is a hint you're trying to turn yourself into a discount Tex I am calling Shenanagins!

[@B..B.]

Man, my brain Just go on loadtime for a sec or two kkkk

[@thecobaltemperor]

Who else read the title wrong and then was confused as hell?

[@michaelandreipalon359]

An army of underdeveloped and outnumbered combat droids cannot beat the duplicates of anti-Jedi superwarriors. 5:11: Hmm, a video about Jedi being forced to use blasters would be worth checking upon. Called it. Actually, I'm thinking Multiversal rogue clones of, say, mahou shoujos like Twilight Sparkle, Sailor Moon, Homura Akemi, and Willow Park. Don't ask *why* I'm thinking this, my imagination is sometimes off the charts, and also don't ask how they went rogue, and why they were made in the first place.

[@macwade2755]

This is Canon for me!

[@sgauden02]

I sometimes think the Clones should've been the bad guys, and the Republic soldiers just regular guys. I mean you have two essentially disposable armies, so where's the stakes?

[@FUSION865]

I had to read the title twice to be sure I wasn't crazy lol

[@williamcostigan91]

Republic droid army and Separatist clones? Phew somebody must have flashpointed the universe with some irresponsible flow walking. I'm gonna go ahead and blame Jacen.

[@RossIsFine]

Well who killed more jedi? The clones. The end

[@andrewk.7498]

Star Wars version of Jem Hadaar

[@sourkraut_knight8722]

Man, i was so confused because of the video title😂

[@muhammadksatriaakbarariend8684]

Godzilla had a stroke while reading this

[@tristankawatsuma8962]

Technically a rebel stormtrooper has already happened. Just ask the New Republic’s Inferno Squad which is 2/3 made up of former Imperial commandos. I will say that I think the opposite is impossible, Rebels defecting and becoming Imperial soldiers. Sure, traitors are possible, but the Empire would most likely just lock up any rebels after getting whatever info they could obtain from them.

[@neofulcrum5013]

I’m pretty sure Kyle was a stormtrooper who defected to the rebellion. As well as the glory hog Sarkli to the empire

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Wait how would those puny nikto do anything to a walking tank with their bare hands

[@aceofspadesguy4913]

I dunno, there’s a reason we don’t use swords anymore in warfare, and there’s a reason artillery is the king of the battlefield.

[@rozertheslayer8638]

Do naboo army vs spartis rebel

[@Geshiko-GuP]

balmorra is a true business planet..just continue selling to both sides..even if your officialy on 1..but hey..busines is business

[@nomercyinc6783]

Separatists never had any clones during the clone wars at all. Droids aren’t clones

[@tylerrassi4148]

How about stormtrooper Rebels? 🤔🤣

[@jamoin8062]

i thought there was an error in the title, lol

[@jasongriffin1517]

Clones are just human Clankers. Change my mind.

[@co11aps33]

Can you do a video about the battle of Muunilist

[@ramonvillafane9442]

Legends vos was way better than canon

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Hm, interesting, very interesting.

[@goldeagle6431]

The Senate would come out on top.

[@Obsidian_Gargantuan_Leviathan]

next thing: republican isd and the imperial venator 🤪🤣

[@jonahstirbis3408]

Anzati are a star wars species the empire should have wiped out they are to powerful and harvest force energy from jedi in a fricked up way.

[@DIEGhostfish]

Your marks on the video don't actually match up, the Republic Droids section ends right before you talk about the X8-X9 prototype. Which is clearly still a Republic Droid and not a CIS Clone.

[@robertagu5533]

Seems the GARs troops.. all of them, even their Droids, are WAY stronger then vast majority of their CIS counterparts. Highly doubt however the BEST an deadliest Mandalorians are easily matched by giant reptile dudes. It takes alot more then toughness an aggression to win. The GAR Droids.. if they made with Starship level armor an weapons the CIS Clones probably wouldn't fare so well with the help of the classic GAR an Jedi helping that don't really need weapons to wreck the Moguki An as for Rebel Stormtroopers, some their units sure did seem to act an behave quite alot like them an fight even better elite Twilight Company especially comes to mind in that area

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

A bit of irony.

[@---jx3ql]

Ok you used a battletech picture😅 The compare is depent also on Terrain on even ground with nomcover droid win easy but qith more Cover and Terrain morgukai get upperhand

[@freelancenerd4804]

Justice for finn!!!

[@iliasalloune4093]

cursed video

[@jamesearlcash4357]

Mögus

[@isnorttannerite539]

Mögus

[@warhawk4494]

I think the separatists had had the time theIr clones would have been better then the GAR. Sorry.

[@lucaskiryucis]

Like

[@mattguy1773]

What the?

[@matthewlaflamme9019]

Such bs every nikto clone was killed. So many stories flushed down the toilet