Was This Queen A Prostitute? | The Six Queens Of Henry VIII | Channel 5

Henry VIII had problems sexually while he was married to Anne of Cleves. Henry VIII went onto marry Catherine Howard, putting an end to his sexual issues, but created rumours that Queen Catherine Howard was previously a prostitute. Check out The Six Queens of Henry VIII and see why Catherine Howard was beheaded, in a similar way to Anne Boleyn.
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[@channel5]

Do you think people were right about Catherine’s past?

[@MissMarquise]

I really want to watch the full episodes of all of these but the link is broken in the description. I've even tried a search on My5 - nothing comes up??

[@sulaiman2375]

@@MissMarquise download the app

[@rachelb1502]

She was a child and groomed her whole life by powerful men... By today's standards she'd be undoubtedly the victim

[@sindelscat9336]

She was groomed by her teacher, and seduced by the secretary, and was secretly engaged to a courtier so you tell me.

[@silvereyes242]

I hate this disgusting portrayal of an abused minor. Catherine Howard was groomed, molested and pawned off by the men around her throughout her entire life, and portraying her as some kind of pornographic seductress is horrible. Sexualising a seventeen year old who who murdered by her husband on claims we don’t know to be true is shameful.

[@acquavivadellefonti7880]

Everyone who talks about Catherine completely dismisses the abuse she had to endure. That's painfully sad.

[@ladyofnoxus6733]

This is only a clip in an entire hour long documentary.

[@elisabethblackwood3921]

Poor Katherine Howard, she didn’t deserve to die like that

[@student05-bdes52]

true :/:(

[@missspice2087]

@@SR-fq2jz she might have been younger than that, like 17 or 16

[@F0REVERMA1SE]

they should've talked it out then the marriage continued man that henry is hard to amuse

[@valentinasuarezsanchez180]

She didn't deserve to die at all

[@da-vidcargill4975]

@@F0REVERMA1SE you are talking about the 16th century, there were rarely any talking it out

[@mcrobsessive0160]

She was sexually abused since childhood, at age 12-13 she was molested by her music teacher, she was only 14-15 when she was with Derehem and 15-17 when she married the king (not that she wanted to of course, her family wanted her to marry him because she grew up in poverty and they wanted money and power) even if she did have an affair, I still feel bad for her for her months of abuse from

[@mcrobsessive0160]

Her music teacher and neglect from her career (sorry my tablet messed up and cut me off before I could finish 😂)

[@ButtonsCasey]

When we look at history we need to take our own take on society out of the equation. She was young, no doubt. But in the 16th century, this was not uncommon. If you view history as we do today, you miss very important details about what history really is.

[@dutchessgirl13]

@@ButtonsCasey It was STILL not common for girls to be abused at the ages of 12-13. Margaret Beaufort did give birth to the future Henry VII at 12, but she was a very strange example, people generally considered it shocking even then, and Margaret never gave birth to another child again. There's a reason why Lord Capulet, in Romeo and Juliet, tells Paris to wait until Juliet is about 15 or 16 to marry her, because while it would still have been considered young by the standards of the time, she would at least more mature.

[@ombrenightcores4153]

I hate it when people say “it was a different time, people her age were mature enough,” because they weren’t. It just took over five hundred years for us to realize that girls weren’t sexually mature yet, even if they did get their period. Maybe the trauma that often came along with molestation helped keep them in submission…

[@ButtonsCasey]

@@dutchessgirl13 It really wasn't as rare as you make it out to be. Find your family tree and look back to those times. A lot of child marriages. People married earlier so they could have kids, and the fact that the average life span was around 45-50.

[@edenwagonlander3420]

The title of the video is extremely offensive. Cathrine Howard was molested by several men. She was taken advantage of and here you are listing reasons why she is to blame? Wow just wow.

[@qnnabevemanbsvevev6355]

Who are these several man the only men who did was henry manoax and it's well known all eye witnesses counts who were around them said it was consensual even the women who lived in the dowerdougess house along with servants ladies in waiting and maids and its even know Catherine switched around her story many times which also sealed the fate since the person who was taking the confession new she was lieing then they found her letter to culpeper

[@zolotayazima8351]

@@qnnabevemanbsvevev6355 actually no. She never consummated her relationship with Manox. On the other hand, she did with Francis Dereham

[@N1ghtGlider]

@@zolotayazima8351 Manox did groom her though and got off relatively scott-free. What he did wasn’t right either, but Dereham at least planned on marrying Katherine until the dowager sent him away. And unrelated, but Henry also took it upon himself to send away any man that was interested in Anne.

[@zolotayazima8351]

@@N1ghtGlider Maybe that's true, but as it was a different society with a different set of rules and etiquette, who knows if by 16th century basis they considered it grooming. I have little doubt that Katherine was not seen as a child in her time

[@BelleRCC]

@@SirRicheybee I have to assume you married a minor, with the amount of disrespect you treat women with

[@lexip24]

To think she was only a child and practising the way she would die so that she looked representable the the public is just sad.

[@roosterhunneh7853]

True, it's honestly so sad

[@grassfedmilkmomma]

I would practice. ..but i have no neck so i want to be darn sure!

[@AuthorLHollingsworth]

The idea of Henry going mad over Catherine's infidelity, after he either divorced or killed his wives. Narcissist!

[@gidzmobug2323]

That is how it was back then:. A husband could have a mistress. The wife was expected to "shut her eyes and endure" (as Henry told Anne).

[@AuthorLHollingsworth]

Im aware of the history, but it still doesn't make it morally right.

[@catwars9749]

@@AuthorLHollingsworth For you and for me, but not for the people of that century.

[@student05-bdes52]

@@gidzmobug2323 "like your betters have done before you"

[@gidzmobug2323]

@@student05-bdes52 Exactly. The wife was expected to remain faithful to her husband. He, however, could take a mistress without penalty.

[@not_gabi6508]

I feel like Six the musical is really the only thing that brings her justice. It really explains her story well and makes us realize that she was the victim all along. Poor girl didn’t even get to her twenties and her entire live after the age of 13 was spent being sexually abused by older men

[@solangereyes2489]

Sorry no it has other reliable sources you can use like it has a video on Catherine's tragedy which gives her way more justice as I'm just saying .

[@thearcticfoxd8844]

Well sadly enough in my research she could’ve been between 7-13 when the whole manox thing started

[@solangereyes2489]

@@thearcticfoxd8844 Just disgusting and sickening poor girl..😥

[@munaadlina]

And bcs of the “all you wanna do” song that sang live, im crying really hard because sam who played as kat really played it well 😭

[@Inanchi05]

We are talking about medieval ages. Even now age of consent in UK is 16 Most people didn't even saw that age in medieval ages. There are Kings who led their army in the battlefield at that age. So even though Henry was too old for Katherine she was not a child for the time.

[@sindelscat9336]

All right this Catherine is historically inaccurate, Catherine Howard was never a seductress she didn't even want to marry the king she never even asked for it, and by the way the king forced himself on her just like to put that out.

[@mangot589]

sindel kahn who says she didn’t want to marry the king? Where have you ever seen that? It’s revisionist history.

[@sindelscat9336]

@@mangot589 every single article, research, and book you can find, unless you're talking about the historically inaccurate ones.

[@mangot589]

sindel kahn Every one? Wow. That isn’t the case in the books I’ve read. Richard Starkey, (Im sure you’re familiar with him from all your research) Tracy Boreman, Alison Wier, (not her factionalized books, I don’t read those), There’s many more, I’m just noting the ones I have on hand, and I’ve read none that imply that she was unwilling to marry him at all. I know she was put forward by her family, but she seemed pretty happy to be marrying the king, the apex of success.

[@sindelscat9336]

@@mangot589 LoL yes I have heard of him, however I didn't pay attention to his book, but from the articles that I've read her family actually manipulated her so she never willingly asked for it, and read more books they'll tell you that she unwillingly was forced to marry him, in fact in every article I've read he forced himself on her so I really can't say I agree with you on those books and they weren't really historically accurate, they really just got false information from certain people, I mean it is true that she did cheat on the king however she never willingly went to his bed anyway, so they really just showed you false information. The only bad thing that she did was cheat on him, other than that she never willingly married him. I literally had to burry my face into every article that I could find, and they all say that she was a victim.

[@mangot589]

sindel kahn Well, actually Starkey wrote several books on the Tudors. He has a CBE, has a PhD in history, went to Cambridge where his thesis was on Tudor history. He’s also a fellow in the Royal Historical Society. Tracy Boreman has a PhD in history and taught history at university. She’s a chief executive the Heritage Education Trust, and along with Lucy Worsley, are Chief Curators of Historic Royal Palaces. She’s also in “Who’s Who”. All of them have hosted several British Documentaries. I doubt very seriously any of them used internet articles to write their books. I don’t really need to “read more books”. I’ve read dozens of them throughout the years, and when ones come out by reputable writers/historians, I read them also. I do read articles put out by reputable historical magazines, such as BBC HISTORY magazine. And I do enjoy “The Anne Boleyn Files and Tudor Society ” hosted by a woman who has written several books on the Tudors, here on KZbin. But you do you.

[@ladyearin]

The way you describe here that poor child is just offensive. History is different, please all people, go to educate from someone who knows the historical figure they are talking about

[@sliverscreencritic]

Dan Jones is a historian who's written several British history books; what arrogance you must have to think you know better! He was taught by one of the most famous Tudor historians there is, David Starkey. You may not like his interpretation of history, I don't always like it, as I think his views on Henry VI and Catherine in this video are way too harsh but, the man knows what he's talking about.

[@karenax254]

@Theresa Nardino. I read the same book, very interesting, but I did have a few questions about the historical accuracy.

[@kevinbergin9971]

Now, there was another documentary about her that mentions she might have been sexually assaulted and was maybe only 15 when she was married. Places things a little differently for sure.

[@asdfghjzxcvbnm7637]

No body assaulted her and she was 17 when she married

[@kevinbergin9971]

@@asdfghjzxcvbnm7637 Pretty sure it was one of Lucy Worsley's episodes. Even then, she did not make it seem like the assault was a settled question.

[@penne4107]

@@asdfghjzxcvbnm7637 she was literally with Mannox when she was a child... that’s assault...

[@gmurph2055]

Another awful thing is Catherine Howard was Anne Boleyns cousin, she was the only other wife of Henry viii to be killed because of the Howard family ambition

[@D38401]

Was coming to add the cousin comment.

[@zookeeps1340]

Also Jane Seymour was their second cousin, also I'm pretty sure that Catherine Parr was actually names after Catherine of Aragon

[@zay4401]

@Jane seymour I thought you hate anne boleyn and Catherine Howard

[@zay4401]

​@@zookeeps1340Catherine of aragon was the godmother of Catherine Parr

[@zay4401]

​@@zookeeps1340Culpepper was a cousin of Anne and Catherine

[@DeidreL9]

Henry was a monster. This video acts as an apologist for him and it’s ridiculous. Catherine was a young girl, he was a miserable obsessed monster who just wanted what he wanted and that was that. This video is wrong.

[@lexip24]

I know right!

[@angrykoala1516]

I agree. I have watched several TV shows and movies on the Tudors and they all seem to portray Katherine as a wh*re and it's just wrong. Wrong! She was a child.

[@GhostFan4Life]

It's disrespectful to Catherine!

[@Famegonna9999]

I believe King Henry the 8th started to become impotent, Katherine fearing for her life not being able to give him a male heir started to have affairs in hopes of getting pregnant.

[@anitastafford6617]

Henry was only 49 years old. He wasn't impotent. He was in pain from his leg. People didn't live long in those days, but he had just father a child not long before his marriage to Katherine Howard. He was very publicly amorous with Katherine Howard. Katherine Howard had lovers before she married the king and she continued after her marriage. That's what got her killed.

[@AD-id8ou]

@@anitastafford6617 It's hypothesized that Henry became impotent after that one jousting incident. Also, Katherine didn't have lovers; they were abusers and rapists.

[@iloveyourunclebob]

@@anitastafford6617 it was said in Anne Boleyn's time Henry was having problems preforming. Pretty sure it's even one of the things they used to bring George Boleyn down.

[@anitastafford6617]

@@iloveyourunclebob That was the time he injured his leg. Anne Boleyn went on to get pregnant two more times. Jane Seymour went on to have a child. It's a hypothesis by revisionist historians. Are they getting this information from his doctor's notes? The health of most King's has been religiously documented. The only time he claimed impotence was when he wanted to rid himself of Anne of Cleves. It would be natural as the pain in his leg increase as did his weight he wouldn't be sexually active, but that doesn't mean impotency.

[@iloveyourunclebob]

@@anitastafford6617 I didn't say impotence. I said problems performing. I don't think he was incapable. Just would have difficulty from time to time.

[@cristianne3040]

Such a tragic tale. She was only a teenager. Apart from Culpepper her relationship with Derham was before she married and also they were due to marry. Her greedy family did to her what they did to Anne Boleyn, told to catch Henry so they can rise at court. The Howard's have a lot to answer for!

[@fahmidakabir8690]

I don't know why I feel like these people are trying to show the king was a victim.. come on seriously???

[@henryford2950]

IKR? He himself was guilty of the same things, so it still doesn't clear him of anything.

[@nicola1109]

no, she was just a child who was groomed by men. offensive much-

[@Rat_Queen86]

Girls could be married at the age of 12 back then, and men could not be accused of grooming children. I’m not saying I agree with it but it’s how it was

[@lexip24]

The title and even the way they portray Kathrine in this is so misleading and untrue. Please collect your facts correctly!!

[@poiyreadghmncxadho657]

They were right tho

[@lexip24]

@Thea Green what do you call a married *man* who sleeps around?

[@robinadams2782]

@Thea Green How about a man who beheaded 2 of his wives, possibly murdered 1 and divorced 2?

[@rubaiyatuljannatsamira3104]

​@@robinadams2782a chad

[@pinkfloyd9622]

A hard though life for a young girl. Abused and forced in as role as queen. She would die if she said no for sure and with a bigger pressure to have a son.. poor girl

[@qnnabevemanbsvevev6355]

She was not abused she was is idiot thats al no one forced her to be with francis or thomas

[@xxx-cl4vj]

@@qnnabevemanbsvevev6355 are you dumb. She was 12/13 with Maddox and about 14/15 with Francis. She was a child and can’t consent and then she was manipulated by her family to marry Henry viii when she was 17.

[@xxx-cl4vj]

And then of course she’s going to have affairs. She was forced into a marriage with a hideous old man who obviously couldn’t please her as he was practically crippled at that point .

[@AngelaBuyck]

She was a young girl forced to marry him to.please the king she was. Sacrfice to this dirty of crazy man.

[@gendergoblin10]

A man most likely wrote the title some men just have the audacity

[@soupismol4464]

bro this is a professionally made documentary and its so historically inaccurate it hurts

[@idostuff6731]

Yes indeed

[@georgehorlock]

Absolutely.

[@cristinapalermo3569]

Totally

[@AmethystEyes]

Yes, what’s the worst inaccuracy for you?

[@Asia-zd1rg]

@@AmethystEyes probably the fact that Katherine is villanized at extremes.

[@s.mcl1472]

okay wtf, she was litterally sexually assaulted. dont act like she was the villain.

[@tlpricescope7772]

I don’t think anyone is saying Catherine deserved to die. She was just a victim of her times, where men, especially the tyrant King Henry VIII, dominated.

[@justanothergoogler6436]

Catherine was what we would now call an abused child.

[@juliie007]

I wish there would be a film or series focusing on Katherine Howard solely that is historically accurate. The tudors series choose to portray Katherine similar to this documentary. I believe the portrayal of Katherine Howard that serves her justice is played by Lynne Frederick where Keith Mitchell plays Henry 8.

[@gidzmobug2323]

Problem is that there is not much biographical information on Katherine. She is a younger daughter if a younger son of the 2nd Duke of Norfolk. The eldest son inherits the land and titles, but a younger son had to make his own way.

[@juliie007]

I’ve tried to do some research on her background all I found out was that her father was probably the second youngest son of the previous duke of Norfolk. Her Mother was Joyce Culpepper sharing a relation with Thomas Culpepper but she died when Katherine was very young. Since her father couldn’t inherit land and titles he was ‘poor’ and spent a lot of time away from home. He sent her to the dowager duchess Agnes Tilley her step-grandmother who was elderly and going blind. Due to Agnes’ poor health she did not have full command of her household and the governesses she hired neglected their duty in chaperoning the young wards under her care.

[@gidzmobug2323]

@@juliie007 Yes, that is about all that is known (except for Agnes Tilney going blind). When Katherine's behavior was discovered, she and Jane Rochford were not the only ones to go to the Tower. Agnes went, along with many of the Duke's family (including another Katherine Howard).

[@modernqueen9243]

Six the musical isn’t too historically accurate, but it is brought up multiple times how terrible Howard’s life is. Jane even admitted it in “Queens Fight Scene”.

[@ha8236]

That's how she was seen back then. It wasn't unusual for girls to marry very young. Any encounter with a man outside of wedlock was seen as the woman's fault. They are only showing how it was perceived back then. She was not considered a child but a girl who had hit puberty therefore ready for marriage. I think people are getting offended because they are comparing it to today's norms and standards. Things were different then. With each generation things change. Look at this from there perspective.

[@allycat0136]

This story makes me so mad. She was a baby. She was so, so young,

[@peterw4338]

Henry VIII was a bloodthirsty, ruthless and sadistic king who suffered from syphilis. He played around when he was married. Let's blame his victims and make the Royal Family Tree look nice and palatable.

[@scottandkatherinenewport3044]

I am sure that Anne of Cleves was relieved by her easiness of her escape as Henry VIII's wife, when she saw the brutality of Catherine Howard's demise and execution. Perhaps by this point it was Anne of Cleves who had 'survived', as much as Katherine Parr had.

[@thesimpsarecomingthesimpsa9113]

I’m glad that the whole of history community can agree on one thing: We all hate Henry

[@stavrosgiannaros7041]

in other words.... if Henry was alive today... he might well be on a list.....

[@elenachicheva7675]

she was just a child who was sexually abused her whole life,, how old was she when she was beheaded? 19? Some people say 16-17... every single one of Henry's wives had tragic story.

[@elyzionite]

except anna of cleves I believe

[@SHARKTIC5]

King Henry was immoral but his Queens died at execution for the same offence.

[@lexiright5609]

Loretta Hargreaves well yes but the rumours about Anne were false and Katherine was less than 21 and had been abused her whole life.

[@cherandehr]

For a queen to have an affair is considered treason at this time. This is the reason for their executions. The king can't have children, the queen possibly could. This harshness is in part to make sure any child born is legitimately the king's child.

[@lexiright5609]

@@cherandehr Anne was killed because Henry wanted a new wife, he knew the allegations were false. Katherine was killed because of what happened before she got married.

[@cherandehr]

@@lexiright5609 Yes, after she had a couple miscarriages. They were trumped up charges in Anne's case. For Katherine there were some basis for charges to be brought. It seems there was a basis for divorce, but that wasn't enough for Henry. His ego was injured and made him look like the old man he was.

[@jeannejones1636]

Stop sugar coating they were all pigs

[@elisabetta611]

The title of this video is just DISGUSTING clickbait. Catherine Howard was a young girl who'd been preyed upon throughout her adolescence and finally forced into a marriage she had no say in. To a man who had already banished and murdered two of his wives. Who was more than TWICE her age. This "poor Henry" tone the documentary adopts makes me physically ill.

[@carlottahrg]

Catherine howard was definitely Henry’s mid life crisis

[@johnnyachillesjelinek6765]

People are more brutal then any another animal under this universe

[@Artemisss1]

That guy who plays Catherine's lover is the same man who played King Richard III in the Timeline documentary Dan Jones made, isn't he?

[@aoifeferry118]

poor catherine, she deserved so much better than what she was given

[@alexaallana2645]

History always has this narrative that she was a goddess. She was 5 foot and ‘plump’ and had a ‘modest beauty’ not the supermodel that’s she’s made out to be in films 😂

[@ButtonsCasey]

I am so happy to see someone realize this other than myself. According to everyone back then, only one of Henry's wives was considered beautiful. That was Catherine of Aragon. And they always portray her wrong as well!!

[@ladylove2310]

What was considered beautiful back then differs from today. ‘Plump’ was the figure of an ideal woman, as it meant you could afford to eat well, and it was considered you were fertile if you were ‘plump.’ Also, I am not sure where you are getting your sources. The French ambassador at court wrote that she was very pretty, and considered one of the prettier of Henry’s wives, and quite vivacious. So, it isn’t history creating a narrative. She was considered beautiful in her time.

[@ButtonsCasey]

@@ladylove2310 No. Contemporary accounts called her middling which meant average. You can easily look that up yourself.

[@ButtonsCasey]

@@ladylove2310 French ambassador Marillac’s comments that she was not of spectacular, but rather moderate, beauty, while being of a graceful disposition.

[@ladylove2310]

LaLaLA LaLaLA The description of ‘middling’ was of her stature and not her looks. “she is of middling stature,” meaning she was short. She was considered by many in the court to be beautiful. There are several contemporary accounts of people describing her as attractive.

[@robinhood7471]

Henry VIII was a vile excuse for a human,always remember this when considering all aspects of his reign.

[@reassimilate668]

Emotions he should have had for Anne Boylen after murdering her. She was falsely accused of many things

[@Skipper.17]

Moral to the story..........Never put anything in writing.

[@sibilalambert6109]

😂

[@urockjet8242]

ALL YOU WANNA DO ALL YOU WANNA DO BABYYYYY

[@irishpotato9670]

Urock Jet I think we can all agree I’m the ten amongst these three!

[@beheadedtheaterqueen1756]

@@irishpotato9670 all you wanna do all you wanna do baby and ever since I was I child I make the boys go wild all you wanna do all you wanna do baby

[@andreagriffiths3512]

Dark Winged Angel Broad, dark, sexy Mannox, Taught me all about dynamics. He was 23 and I was 13 going on 30. We’d spend hours strumming the lute, Striking the chords and blowing the flute. He plucked my strings all the way to G; Went from major to minor, C to D 💋

[@aheartlikethesea]

@@andreagriffiths3512 Tell me what you need What you want, you don't need to plead 'Cause I feel the chemistry Like I get you and you get me And maybe this is it He just cares so much, it feels legit We have a connection I think this guy is different

[@monikacigerova6850]

Sarah Bynum 'Cause all you wanna do All you wanna do, baby Is touch me, love me, can't get enough, see

[@gazza2933]

I hope Catherine came back to haunt big mouth Bennett.

[@hollyh408]

The greatest flaw in this video is the overdramatic flair. For instance, at 7:10, the historian begins to read Catherine's one surviving letter (to Culpeper). For dramatic effect, she doesn't reveal the writer until she reaches the end. She then says "it's signed off ... Catherine". Yes, we know. She says, "This is Catherine Howard's signature." YES - you just told us that. "Henry's wife." We KNOW who she is - that's why we're here! "The queen." WE GET IT ALREADY! The repetition of that (it was written by Catherine! Catherine HOWARD! The king's wife! The queen!) doesn't serve to teach us anything. It's not informative; it's actively wasting valuable time. Instead it's just for a splash of drama. It's unnecessary, and it's indicative of the larger problem here. This is primarily about drama, not facts, and when discussing a woman who was executed, likely before she was 20, for "crimes" committed beginning when she was in her very early teens, drama vs facts MATTER. Overdramatization loses a lot of important information.

[@Bella-wl6fn]

I wish they would include how they know that letter is the "actual" letter (as opposed to a fraudulent one) for those of us that don't know everything...It's not enough to state " this is the original letter," without backing it up. I love these docs anyway, I just wanna know how they know it's not a fake.

[@Bella-wl6fn]

@Creepy Hair Sniffer I got the fake credibility vibe to. You mention the motives and the fear mongering and political religion..prolly dead on🙈🙊🙉

[@Hemaro88]

These women were only victims of Henry. If only Henry hadn’t fell into a trap, these beauties could have fell and married other noblemen. If there was to blame by the annulment and beheading of his wives, it was his polygamous nature.

[@iloveyourunclebob]

I really can't stand the tone of this little series.

[@iloveyourunclebob]

@joanne c Idk really...it's like it comes off a tad "poor Henry". The series as a whole, not just this specific one. It's just a little off putting and I can't put my finger on exactly why lol

[@jeannejones1636]

Be. Quiet you

[@DaisyLee1963]

Yes. I didn't like the one about Jane Seymour, either.

[@2snowgirl520]

I agree. It’s sensationalized.

[@jacquelinedeigan3913]

No she wasn't. She was brought up in an unconventional house hold.. Where the up bringing was not what was expected for a Lady. Then she was taken advantage of by older men,. Catherine Howard when all is said and done the poor girl..(because that's all she was a child) was a victim of circumstance.

[@filipcarpentier860]

I've read that she was related to Anna Boleyn. Is that actually true?

[@lindseybonnar9294]

Yes, they are related through Anne’s mother

[@ItsJustLisa]

Cousins, one step removed, I believe. Maybe 2nd cousins once removed.

[@makaelaischillin]

Just Lisa 1st. Anne’s mother was Katherine’s father’s sister.

[@ItsJustLisa]

GalaxyGirl, thank you. I couldn’t remember how close and the difference in their ages could have put a “once removed in there”.

[@filipcarpentier860]

@@lindseybonnar9294 thank you so much for the answer

[@alexandrasolar5941]

Someone here after seeing The Six musical?

[@not_gabi6508]

All you wanna do, all you wanna do, baby

[@idiotsassemble5698]

@@not_gabi6508 I think we can all agree I'm a ten amongst these threes

[@infi8233]

All you wanna do, all you wanna do, baby

[@elyzionite]

@@infi8233 And ever since I was a child I'd make the boys go wild

[@drruankhabedahanak]

I think The story of her past did not destroyed her. But the affairs that she did at the court ... and the love letters with katherine sign

[@keithpotter9922]

Oh absolutely! If it would’ve just been her past on not being virtuous before marriage to the King, she would’ve just been banished with the marriage annulled, she would’ve been disgraced but she would’ve kept her head! 👍

[@Hola-8693]

Honestly the title alone for the video is offensive. And the video it self is acting like it gave Henry justice and is defending him. Like what?! Who ever made the video should just delete it right now

[@111sweeny111]

Seriously,? No wonder no body watches channel 5

[@Canyouseeanypartofme]

??

[@mariarice4916]

clearly you just watched it

[@cherryblossom2494]

Catherine Howard was a victim of abuse and also she just wanted a friend not a lover and plus are we just going to ignore the fact that Henry VIII also had dozens of mistresses including Anne Boleyn's sister Mary

[@Angie2343]

No wonder he became impotent. I feel bad for him. :'(

[@cherryblossom2494]

@@Angie2343 Well I don't feel bad for Henry, he was a terrible father to Mary & Elizabeth, beheaded two of his wives (who were cousins), so that is why I hate Henry

[@GhostFan4Life]

Catherine didn't deserve her fate. Period.

[@urockjet8242]

Catherine was young and naiive...

[@Angie2343]

But very pretty. If Henry was her age...

[@jacy161]

Henry has many mistresses openly takes mistresses and makes them wives yet he wants his mistresses turned wives to be loyal and honest to him ....

[@wakh9647]

Poor Catherine..the man she fell in love with, denied her right away and even put the blame on her. Those guys deserved getting beheaded, especially those older men who took advantage of her youth and even boasted about it! Serves them right!

[@terrybaker8156]

She didn’t even get to sit her GCSEs

[@xxx-cl4vj]

Not a bad thing 🤣

[@muskreality]

Henry VIII mastered the Art of Quarantine

[@allim.5941]

Henry should have realized that teenagers are drama.

[@hikikneko]

She was assaulted-

[@motorcop505]

I don't know which lady is more breathtaking, Professor Lipscomb or the actress who played Katherine in this film.

[@emilyelyse]

This is just offensive. Title is so disgusting and only done for views considering she was a child being groomed by older men. The way you’re talking about it is just so mediocre as well.

[@I_Wish_I_Was_Home]

blaspheming the name of Catherine Howard, the title of this video does that well 2:16 shame on the choice of words in the narration!

[@duketgg]

It's the 21st century and victim blaming is still a thing. How can this be?

[@kristinadaubney2068]

I doubt she cheated on him she knew what the consequences would be.

[@rnklv8281]

I'm not a history pundit, but she probably did not deserve her fate. It may have been common for a family to use their daughter/female family member as a "stepping stone " to gain court favor, which could result in wealth and power bestowed on their family. I don't know if the Howard family did this, but they probably should have given the "teen queen" some guidance, let her know what she was getting into. In the Court of King Henry VIII , "what goes around , comes around"; some who threw Catherine "under the bus" would meet the same fate.

[@deb-1558]

Wasn't Catherine abused though? Abused from childhood

[@judithboltz7318]

She invited men. Even though she was a child

[@deb-1558]

@@judithboltz7318 How can a child consent? There not even fully matured in adulthood yet.

[@elyzionite]

@@deb-1558 Absolutely, children see the world through rose-tinted glasses, they cant consent

[@nealmcgloin2984]

No sadly I think she was sexualised herself from an early age. Then to boot there was a middle to late age man for his time period who saw a breeding vessel and not a younger partner. Because like in Anne's case rumour and the power plays of a Tudor court cost lives.

[@aced83]

At 9:11 seconds “Catherine had.... “ Get it right for Anne’s sake.

[@sedekiman]

Catherine was indiscreet with her favours. She was used by her Uncle the Duke of Norfolk and her grandmother the Dowager Duchess of Norfolk, to promote the Howards. She could have refused the King having had a pre-contract to Francis Dereham, but could not disappoint her family. Also we cannot transfer the morals and mores of modern society into Tudor England.

[@jimsmith3073]

Jane Boylen orchestrated Catherine's downfall,as with Anne's destruction before.Didn't save her though.she lost her mind,was considered insane.And went to the scaffold on the same day,after Catherine's demise.

[@gidzmobug2323]

As I remember, Catherine's family might not have known about her relationship with Dereham. What the family might have done had they known, I am not sure.

[@Jazzzzyyyy__]

I honestly believe that Henry wasn’t able to consummate his marriage to Catherine Howard or Catherine Parr or Anne of Cleves for that matter

[@tamekaswindle3473]

I was born on the day that Katherine Howard died . I have read many stories about her and watching this gives me more information on who she really was things that the books don’t really tell you because sometimes they can leave out what’s really important.

[@joewalker6109]

Channel 5... What are you doing 😑😑 if you're going to make a professional documentary, then please have the facts. You make it sound like catherine was a promiscuously matured woman when in all matter of facts; she was an abused child... I'm disgusted to be quite honest. Thank goodness for Six the Musical.

[@jeiDie0001]

What is up with these men making false accusations against the Queens? Just let them beee!

[@Rafiawinters]

Lol the acting here is ridiculous

[@jeannejones1636]

You are ridiculous

[@reythejediladyviajakku6078]

2 weeks.., Henry wasted no time, did he?

[@grace-mariestrong3372]

That was more time than between Anne Boleyn & Jane Seymour

[@nicolej7308]

The title of this video is horribly offensive. Catherine was a CHILD when she was molested by several men. Seriously, Channel Five? What the heck?

[@aquaticanimations9789]

As a friend of someone who has been sexually abused I think I know why she turned it down

[@ruepaul]

the title is offensive honestly, and the video is extremely inaccurate. henry shouldn't be painted as the victim at all

[@johnfontenot4351]

What woman in her right mind would become Henry 8’s wife?

[@grisom5863]

He only had 6.

[@johnfontenot4351]

@@grisom5863 variety

[@rocker76m88]

He looked gross 😬

[@loof8713]

They didn't have a choice, if henry says it's you then it's you

[@johnfontenot4351]

@@loof8713 well then shave yr head or stop bathing.

[@hfishku]

When I just did my terrot reading, it said flat out yes that Catherine was blackmailed... the first pile said not enough information to get the truth

[@hfishku]

Tarrot* sorry

[@elyzionite]

I don't tarot read but there's a lot of speculation that blackmail was indeed what happened

[@DavidSanchez-fm9us]

This is extremely in accurate it makes me cry

[@AmeliaJasmine24]

I hate the title of the video. Poor Katherine she was only a child when she was sexually abused. Only 13 and only in her late teens when she was killed today. This is just an insult to her.

[@paulinerodgerson2476]

It was a nasty snide person to not keep their noses out turning a blind eye would have been kind. With all of them

[@NatTy1999_]

Pretty sure Catherine was grossed out by him

[@modernqueen9243]

I have never wanted to destroy a channel more then Channel 5.

[@elyzionite]

@Jean Rhodes Nope, she's right. They're making K Howard sound like she's the villain and the facts are BS

[@Luis-yx1xi]

If it's true that she wrote that letter to Thomas Cultpeper. Then her indiscretion brought all that to her.

[@MrAdryan1603]

This title is completely twisted and the video doesn't depict the reality of her *real* situation in *her* world ([ *at her age!* ]), for instance the letters can be read from a different point of view knowing she was basically sexually abused for her whole teens and on, this documentary leans in such the wrong direction and that just reeeally really bothers me.

[@7Strigiformes]

This is completely hurting. She's an abuesd child..

[@dominic6634]

Real question was henry 8th a serial killer.

[@melieflynn-hayes7996]

Catherine Howard was a child and Henry was a grown up

[@wattersi1968]

Probably the only accuracy of this story is the weight of the actor playing the king lol.

[@lisanguyen2015]

But Catherine only had 1 affair, and how many maidens Henry had?

[@TheHappyHijaabi]

That's your toxic masculinity for you. Men are "supposed" to "sow their wild oats" whilst women are meant to be virginal and chaste. But if men are meant to "sow their oats", who are the women they are doing their sowing with?.

[@qnnabevemanbsvevev6355]

@@TheHappyHijaabi accuatly it was 2

[@driiluane2650]

The title of the video is disgusting and offensive! You should be ashamed to publish a video with this title!

[@mellyb3131]

I think the king acted too swiftly in condemning her actions. There are two sides to a story.

[@siobhancoffey6240]

She definitely had an affair with culpepper as they were her last words before she died, I think maybe she was actually In love so didn’t think of the consequences xxx

[@katherinehoward3950]

Her last words are highly disputed. In fact nobody that was personally present at her execution ever said that her last words were that she would have rather married Culpepper

[@Servingmentalilness]

Yeah her last words being about Culpeper was a myth

[@elyzionite]

Her "relationship" with Culpeper probably wasn't consensual

[@hammaker5447]

Does anyone know this actor for Catherine Howard, for um, research purposes *cough*

[@arijayari1076]

There is something fishy, why would she write her name and sign the letter that way,