"WAS WENGER A LOSER?!" Simon Jordan GRILLS Petit Over Whether Wenger & Arteta Can Be Called WINNERS!

[@Devypocalypse]

How the eff can Wenger be called a loser?! He win TWO domestic doubles, an Invincibles season and won more FA Cups than anyone. Revolutionised the English game when he arrived. Not even an Arsenal fan but fml the guy was trememdous.

[@kevingates8339]

But the last decade plus of his reign was so bad, was it enough to tarnish what he did in the first place?

[@matthewely1235]

@@kevingates8339the move to the Emirates ruined the process of the club. Financially they couldn’t spend big and they couldn’t pay high wages. It was at a time when Chelsea came with their money and they changed the league and could attract players over Man U and Arsenal.

[@HarryCallahan-tf3qr]

I​@@matthewely1235It was Chelsea who started the Rot of football.

[@Devypocalypse]

@@kevingates8339 not at all. He literally revolutionised English football. That doesn't get tarnished at all. There are a whole slew of reasons in the comments below why he got hamstrung in continued success.

[@Klash716]

He’s not a loser but his last 10 years were failure. Never won a CL too

[@philcox95]

I'm a Liverpool supporter Arsene Wenger one of the best Managers Ever He Changed The Game

[@livinginlondon6122]

Respect 🙏🏻

[@londonsfinest6070]

Asking if a guy was a loser when he told his team “we can go invincible for a whole season” and then doing it, is a nonsense topic…

[@asmo2183]

He went without losing only in the league. Arsenal lost games in cups and Europe. Not an "invincible" season at all

[@mannyafcarsensl-rc6vv]

@@asmo2183 cry more

[@tomodul2619]

​@@asmo2183 Is the invincible a trophy?

[@ryyanzissou]

Says the man who used to own a football club, but now talks on the radio

[@Barney-ii1no]

exactly, he makes himself look like a dick a lot

[@TrueInspiration159]

He was a failure of an owner, don't forget that. He was failure.

[@ZemisFC]

Simon you are a disgrace...TY's voice. Smfh

[@SHEK110]

Was Wenger a loser? The sheer audacity of this question about a man that won 3 premier league titles and 5 FA cups shows how piss poor the content of this show is

[@Person-01]

Over 20 plus years though 3 league titles and 5 fa cups, no European cup, only got to 1 euro final, not great is it, nice football but hardly a serial winner.

[@arranmelaugh5606]

7 fa cups

[@alastairmacbeath5488]

@@Person-01 Who else has won 3 League titles......SAF, PEP & Jose...that's it! The last decade of his Arsenal career was mostly spent making the club money.

[@christopherhughes497]

Can you say the last decade of his reign was a success? He failed to adapt further and stayed in his lane tactically and it stagnated massively. They never got a near a title in that time. His rebuilds were never quite good enough after the first couple of squads.

[@PIP-cw7qe]

Only Simon Jordan gets into these conversations

[@amakky1989]

If there was any doubt of whether the Arsenal hate is real, there’s your proof

[@garybennt5233]

Remind me again how many managers have won multiple prem titles?

[@jazzdub4958]

A fair few.

[@joer.g8568]

@@jazzdub4958fergie, Wenger, Jose and Pep. That’s it right?

[@pspals6972]

@@jazzdub4958 name em’ a fair few would imply over 10

[@yogihightower]

Jordan wants to battle everyone at all times and its getting boring.

[@bensouthwell1339]

Wenger changed english football for the best, Arsenal were a joy to watch for years. Wish the Toon had him up here.

[@mattg56]

Petit, what a legend.

[@JamesLenehan-e6z]

Shame he left. Better than Vieira

[@mansnotbot4160]

Don't be silly. Classy player, but not better than Pat.

[@jeannotschumacher1024]

Clearly better. He made him great. Yiu are not an Arsenal supporter.​@@mansnotbot4160

[@tallstranger3662]

A loser who went an entire season unbeaten, with his team playing brilliant football. Come back when someone else achieves this.

[@stuartgolby9767]

Over 20 years and nothing in Europe? Let's not just throw in the Invincibles and ignore the massive hole in the CV

[@kevingates8339]

And that was the last season he coached and he just walked off into the sunset.

[@jazzdub4958]

The ref cheated in the match Pires handballed in the box, should have been a penalty and you should've lost.

[@joer.g8568]

Truth is it was extremely close to being beaten the season after by a fresh Chelsea squad with a new manager. Only stopped by a controversial penalty. Yes they didn’t manage it, but it does dampen the whole thing when the year season as a team almost achieved the exact same thing

[@mannyafcarsensl-rc6vv]

@@stuartgolby9767 hole in the cv ? Well every other wannabe has a holw on their cv its a gold plated invincible trophy many teams have fluked a cl win an invincible cant be fluked buddy

[@neilgoodyer9606]

Simon Jordan talking at 100 miles per hour and Petit understanding and replying so eloquently in English is brilliant. Regardless of him spending so many years here it’s great. We English are useless! Great guest. What a player.

[@bg7393]

Oh just shut up Simon. It’s getting boring now

[@DrFunkadunk]

Wenger is the only PL manager who can't be called a "loser" because he's the only manager who's been through a season and won a title without ever losing.

[@jeannotschumacher1024]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@leeakers6422]

Jordan is a closet Spurs fan

[@kennyp9616]

Jordan is the prime example of a classic narcissist. Horrible human.

[@Nadk2010]

he did something that nobody has done thats go unbeaten throughout the season... end of discussion

[@craigcolclough3008]

Preston done it first mate

[@jeannotschumacher1024]

No...he didn't

[@jeannotschumacher1024]

I mean...Petit

[@chucky7826]

​@@craigcolclough3008preston also unbeaten in the cup that year

[@ILKILO1]

Anyone who wins a League title with Arsenal must be a magician

[@SHEK110]

Arsenal have won more league titles than all but two clubs in this country so thats just a stupid statement made by a 13 year old

[@ILKILO1]

@@SHEK110 banter club

[@ILKILO1]

@@SHEK110 more Division 1 titles than European trophies ... Tiny club

[@environm3ntalist549]

So they have had a couple of magicians, what is your point?​@@SHEK110

[@TheKh65]

Anyone who could tolerate you irl must be a saint😂😂😂😂

[@indiechoices]

Talksport not even trying to hide their anti-Arsenal bias now.

[@michalswiderski507]

This was such a good conversation - amazing. Petit is respected and he respects Simon, and overall just nice exchange friendly and profound.

[@brintonsolomons2819]

Simon never won anything with Crystal Palace as an owner ....they never were as good as now

[@UnitedRoar]

Loved it when Jose called him 'An voyeur'

[@Yooouu.tuuube]

An?

[@kumbirayimamombe3970]

He is so right though, as things stand even 6th place is celebrated.

[@Tarek_ElMaddah]

9:00 he was building the stadium.

[@rashidkhalid3970]

Wenger first invented elite scouting like Brighton do today

[@matthewely1235]

Took klopp 5 seasons to win the prem and klopp should have won more

[@Tarek_ElMaddah]

I’m glad that finally a proper Arsenal legend stood up for Wenger . Martin is pure dumb to defend any case.

[@samuelolisa-h9e]

rice has said it all ..the difference between social media fans and real fans wenger is a legend to every real fans irrespective of their different clubs but social media failures in life fans will always have different stupid ideas as failures they are

[@lfcspectre4335]

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[@TheKh65]

Lfcspectre4335= top Jordanian Glazer proper bobber 💯 facts

[@Barney-ii1no]

he was a fukin loser as a club owner

[@kissg6734]

You a loser for being a bankrupt ex football club owner?

[@TrueInspiration159]

Are we talking about the same guy who reshaped English football as a foreigner? This guy is out of his mind, he always is!

[@jazzdub4958]

Your right about football has changed Emmanuel, it's now worse today.

[@rugbyanalyst1]

Well according to Graeme Souness... Wenger wasn't a football man

[@tomfurlong3491]

This guy really don't like arsenal 😂😂😂

[@semiseriousgooner]

Done with Talksport. When Simon first came on he had interesting views that were slightly different from the norm and gave you an interesting angle. Now he's a parody of himself, he's boring and needs to get off the radio before his media career ends up like his ownership of Palace. £40M down the swanny and had his dad's and his boyhood club pinched away from him like a proper LOSER for peanus. Couldn't begin to contemplate actual achievements like Arsene Wenger. Unsubscribed.

[@Dercudez]

I'm a simple man. I see Emannuel Petit on a talkSPORT video & I click.

[@mattk5020]

WHOEVER PUT THIS TITLE UP HAS SERIOUS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES!!!!!

[@multifaceteduser3405]

it's actually surprising how long wenger lasted after 2005. i guess arsenal were just happy cashing the cheques for the 'top4'

[@colmd7680]

The stadium meant the club had to look at their purchases differently. However about 5-6 years they should have been looking to get back to the top table and that became the real failure of the club

[@matthewely1235]

@@colmd7680 exactly, the move was ill timed because Chelsea came with their cash and they competed against Arsenal and Man U for players, Arsenal couldn’t spend big on fees or salary’s due to the stadium move.

[@musharafhussain2316]

A bit like United Chelsea and Spurs hiring and sacking managers just to get in the top 4

[@callumduffy6295]

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[@colmd7680]

@matthewely1235 abramovic's arrival and splurge was dreadful timing for Arsenal given that they were tightening their belts. The 2010s was still inexcusable in terms of the lack of ambition. The loss of David Dein was a huge blow

[@christopherhughes497]

The last ten years or so of his reign, he can very much be considered a failure as they failed to get near a league title and won the odd cup at best. He just couldn't rebuild and failed to adapt to a changing game like most managers do. It shows you how good Fergie actually was. He constantly rebuilt squads that won trophies. His tactics changed and he identified when it was needed. Even Mourinho found himself a little outdated and Pep will probably go that way too.

[@jazzdub4958]

Wenger definitely not a failure, the issue was that Kroneke dulled a lot of Wenger's genius in picking players or having to work under conditions that impacted him. I don't buy into this "manager can be outdated with modern football" garbage. They can adapt if allowed to or have to.

[@christopherhughes497]

@jazzdub4958 so ten plus years winning no titles was a success? Lol ok blame the chairman.

[@JamesLenehan-e6z]

No clue what you are talking about

[@christopherhughes497]

@JamesLenehan-e6z so he won loads of titles and chanpions leavues in those last ten years did he? Was I mistaken? I've stated nothing but fact. It hurt your feelings, facts do not care about your feelings. Let's call finishing and aiming to finish in the top 4 a success then shall we? Absolute delusion

[@christopherhughes497]

@JamesLenehan-e6z instead of making nothing statements, how about you make a decent case as to why he was a success in his last decade. Or, shut up

[@helpvid]

Talk spot titles are so Clickbait

[@LeeBullenWriter]

Another Arsenal fan talking about 'next year' and giving up on the league in January! Same thing from a caller the other day. This guy literally said 'all we need is a striker'. Well, we're in a transfer window, mate. Demand it of the board now! And don't give up on league titles when there's over 4 months to go and only 4 points in it!

[@jeannotschumacher1024]

Yiu don't know the club. Bugger of....euh....please

[@LeeBullenWriter]

@@jeannotschumacher1024 Have you given up the league in January too?! Perfectly acceptable if the club doesn't recruit this window I suppose?

[@Lowkey_AFC]

Arteta is definitely a loser but to bring Wenger in this this is actually wild I expect better from Simon

[@mohamedsheriff5328]

We are not bulging to your proppaganda to get mikel sacked

[@crash17289]

This is absolutel stupidity. The video caption, the talking points, SJ are all absolute dross

[@MatthewPlummer-y4x]

Is Simon Jordon ok !?

[@prodigalh1234]

Jims love in with petit.. lol.. the man could just cough n Jim would wax lyrical...

[@Sibstajimjam1719]

Arteta is forever a loser he will never win. Petit sadly knows this but is trying to be nice even though he’s usually harsh on Arteta because the fans will abuse Petit just like they do Henry.

[@jeannotschumacher1024]

😂😂😂no ckue no clue

[@carlosgk1]

Wenger won a lot in his early years and even in his final years won Fa cups! audacity to even ask this! do you ask this about your beloved Mourinho?

[@jeannotschumacher1024]

He won more titles than Tottenham in their hole existence.😂😂that means the club called Tottenham are a total failure😂😂😂.total failure...you're just a total failure

[@chucky7826]

Probably cos mourihno won as many league titles in his 2 spells at Chelsea over about a 5 year period as wenger did in over 2 decade's

[@BlauveltBurns]

Wenger lost his ambition

[@IsengardInsights]

These shameless people. Shame

[@multifaceteduser3405]

'specialist in failure'

[@snipergunner563]

You are Simon???

[@rorus9530]

That was said by mourinho who has ultimately failed at almost every club he has managed. Arsene Wenger may not have won as much as mourinho, but he left Arsenal in a much better position than it was when he found it.

[@killopillo-c9g]

Unbeaten title. Go crawl back in that rock 😂

[@chucky7826]

​@rorus9530 a manager who's won trophies at every club he's been at besides spurs failed at almost every job he had did he. God your a special case

[@wmorris189]

Jordan is a a true double winner. Fool and Loudmouth of the week😎

[@Yooouu.tuuube]

I’m not even watching the video, I just had to comment after seeing the title. Simon is being very silly if the headline is right

[@dan7972-k9m]

He sure did win a lot of things for a “loser”?😂 yes guys the only manager in a century to go a season unbeaten is a loser 😅

[@raphaelrau1728]

What’s Simon Jordan then?! Twit….

[@thelegendthatischels]

Is Simon a loser cause he nearly put his boyhood club out of business?

[@musharafhussain2316]

Simon: Most people who own a football club have to win something in their life. Simon was a winner. What major trophy did he win? 😂😂😂

[@arranmelaugh5606]

Self made millionaire, I’d say that makes him a winner!

[@abdiraoufmuse7908]

Failed football owner now mediocre radio personality could NEVER speak on Wenger lol. Find shame 🤡🤡

[@Lowkey_AFC]

We get a striker and we’ll win the league next year 😂 yeah so it’s next year again boys Netflix and I’ll just like to ask so do my fellow Arsenal fans think city aren’t gonna strengthen in the summer no? Coz they’ve already gone and got 3 players in this window alone while’s we make excuses for this club yet again so for everyone saying get zubimendi and a striker in the summer we win the league Yeahh I newsflash city will be back next year and best believe pep isn’t making the same mistake again and Liverpool well well they’ve saved themselves some money haven’t they think they’ll just sit back and watch arsenal lol Chelsea can only get better united aswell so all these fans deluding themselves into thinking next season we’ll win it guess what next season it only gets harder

[@lifestylelifestyle5471]

How could the Great Arsene Wenger be a loser???🤔Arsenal Greatest Manager ever!ok he never won the Champion League...so what...neither has Pep won it! 49unbeaten run don't forget! No other premiership team will ever beat that record!

[@87Michael]

Pep hasn’t won it??

[@MK79LDN]

What’s wrong with traditional English football with long balls and crosses and low blocks? Still works and can be very exciting

[@lionheartfitness4876]

Facts no UCL.

[@colmd7680]

You must be 15. No adult looks at football that way especially those who remember that era

[@SHEK110]

That doesn’t make you a loser you when youve won multiple league titles you idiot

[@andrewwright4195]

​@colmd7680 people mock liverpool fans for only facing city arsenal and utd fans but now arsenal fans don't like it

[@colmd7680]

@andrewwright4195 that sentence makes no sense. What are you saying?

[@andrewwright4195]

@colmd7680 people mock liverpool only beating city once but we are not allowed to do it arsenal

[@daveyt86]

Petit spoke alot but hardly made any point

[@InkyBizzo]

You cannot compare Liverpool to Arsenal, Simon! Liverpool is a much bigger club with a richer history! 19 titles and hopefully soon to be 20; 6 European titles to Arsenal's 0. There is no comparison here as much as Arsenal fans cry about it! 🤣

[@MUHTV4EVA]

A big club that didn’t win a league for 30years is insane

[@mohinuddin8889]

​@MUHTV4EVA Sorry when did the invincible won in that 1 legged horse race LOOOOOL bro Arsenal fans live in Dulu land

[@InkyBizzo]

@MUHTV4EVAArsenal haven’t won it in over 20 years. We made it to 4 Champions Leagues finals and won 2 of those in that time. What have Arsenal got to show for in the last 20 years?

[@MUHTV4EVA]

@@InkyBizzo sorry buddy am a city fan so unlucky buddy

[@jeanlundi2141]

I really don't like Petit. I usually don't have a problem with random doofuses commenting on football, but I really don't like this guy.

[@Yooouu.tuuube]

You’re describing yourself while thinking you’re mocking Petit. You don’t have to like him, but you could never belittle what he did in the game, or have you also won leagues, cups & then the bloody WORD CUP? Oh so you must’ve scored in the final too like he did right?

[@GJSpurs26]

Simon's right. Going by Petit's logic, Wenger was a winner who turned into a loser 😂😂

[@musharafhussain2316]

By Simon's view you too are a loser. 😂😂

[@fady02]

Yup, Wenger was a winner who then decided to sacrifice winning in order to build and grow a club, taking it to the next level. He was told that he wouldn't be able to spend money, and then was told that he had to sell players every year to sustain the inflated costs of building the stadium. He did the job superbly, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. He became a legend revered by all Arsenal fans as a result

[@snipergunner563]

Are you looking are listening 😂😂😂