Was Ygritte Beautiful In The Books? 😨

[@g17yt99]

Crazy to think both of their actors are married and have kids now

[@zapan101313]

As someone who first saw her in Downton Abbey, I find it hilarious that the maid turned out actually grew up in a castle IRL and then married the King of the North.

[@juan83xd]

What?!

[@yamunap4686]

@@juan83xd yaa that's true You don't know that??

[@bryanmcclure2220]

​@@zapan101313what?

[@zapan101313]

@@bryanmcclure2220 The actress Rose Leslie (who played Ygritte on GOT, and the housemaid Gwen in Downton Abbey) grew up in an actual castle, Lickleyhead Castle, and married Kit Harrington (Jon Snow).

[@Mysticleo42]

Sometimes a smile is all someone needs to be beautiful to others

[@DMF121]

That was very well said 💯🔥

[@caseinnitrate2004]

Sometimes, a smile is all someone needs to make others runaway

[@jeremylindo8263]

​@@caseinnitrate2004😂😂😂OMG😂😂😂true so true very very well said😂😂😂

[@dustinmaxwell259]

Plus she's saved his life more than once. Gratitude can go a long way...for MEN. Women don't care how many times you save their life. They'll just keep friendzoning your arse if you're unattractive. "Thanks for wrestling that grizzly to save my life. I'm sorry you lost a kidney over it. Now go stand over there, while I hit on this hot guy that cheered for the bear😁"

[@Mysticleo42]

@@caseinnitrate2004 Unfortunately that's the realistic version for me 😂😂😂

[@deplorible753]

It could be an unreliable narrator situation where she's attractive at first sight but Jon doesn't want to admit it to himself. The more he recognises her humanity the less he sees the monster.

[@stephengrigg5988]

That's how I viewed it. That's a really amazing thing about Martin's writing, how the POV chapters slowly shift as the characters change perspective

[@thatguy913]

She’s considered beautiful by other wildlings. I assume she’s pretty but also doesn’t have any of the style or hygiene of Nobel women he’d be accustomed to seeing. I bet you compare her to one of them straight out of the shower no make up and John would think she’s about as pretty but with bad teeth

[@based-ys9um]

​@@stephengrigg5988or George forgot what he wrote before because he's a hack

[@Dell-ol6hb]

True but it could also just be a normal relationship, people often become more attracted to their partners as they get to know them more and more, at first Jon thought she wasn’t attractive because he only looked at what was at the surface but as he gets to know her as a person and spends time with her he grows to find many things about her that he thinks are attractive.

[@KaiserM3]

Wtf is wrong with this people. Lord, what a bunch of simps

[@DevonMostert-kk2et]

Book Jon always be roasting people over there looks. 💀

[@foreverjune8]

Come now, he doesnt *roast*, he thinks that, you cant control your thoughts, can you?

[@Jess-yo9rt]

I pity Brienne if he ever meets her

[@taravinders3710]

Except the most beautiful woman of all Westeros of course...."She was as beautiful as men said. A jeweled tiara gleamed amidst her long golden hair, it's emeralds a perfect match for the green of her eyes.' He tptally had a crush on her🤭

[@metalsucks9]

@@taravinders3710listen we all gotta crush on val

[@shubhie4093]

@@metalsucks9he was describing cersei there not val

[@marythecontrarian]

Jon roasts everyone’s looks 😭 besides like Jaime, Cersei, and Satin. He’s always thinking something or another mean. I don’t think she was objectively pretty but honestly he was probably exaggerating at first because of his disdain for wildlings and also was desperately trying to convince himself that he didn’t want her

[@marythecontrarian]

It’s honestly really funny he’s so delusional he acts like her face actually changed after getting with her, as if she was somehow becoming more beautiful before his very eyes. Also GRRM makes their first sex scene read even more r*pey than it already is (the circumstances are already really bad) by making his internal dialogue battling with his honor and grappling with himself and trying to absolve himself of responsibility by saying he has to do it for the Watch. Then GRRM tries to show that Jon no longer cares about his honor by writing “it happened two more times that night and once more in the morning” which totally falls flat and sounds ominous like she forced herself on him while he was sleeping or something. Really hard to read even if that wasn’t his intention.

[@RayFog1]

@@marythecontrarianshe’s also 18 while Jon’s like literally 14/15

[@zerospecs2331]

@@marythecontrarian Huh??

[@marythecontrarian]

@@RayFog1yeah it’s weird especially bc it’s like… so unnecessary to the plot? I mean technically yeah in her society she doesn’t know better that’s perfectly “normal” but they even have a conversation about their ages and it’s so creepy. I’d say it’s set up to parallel Dany’s storyline but honestly the way GRRM wrote Jon vs. Dany’s “love” stories does really make me feel like he didn’t think what happened with Jon was all that bad. And that sorta weirds me out bc I feel like when you read it its a natural instinct to be icked out.

[@_Lumiere_]

Idk, it's pretty normal for feelings of affection to change one's perception of someone's attractiveness. I think that the way he describes her is likely pretty accurate. The characters in ASOIAF arent all meant to be attractive like the actors in the show, but rather more real.

[@jordanbrown3816]

Ygritte’s death was one of the saddest parts of the series tbh. The inevitability of the conflict between she and Jon, the fact that when Jon finds her there’s no bitterness or resentment for his betrayal, just the wish that they could have stayed happy back in the cave

[@maestrofeli4259]

yu kno nothin jon sno

[@ValerieSmith-du2pz]

I cried so hard when she died on my first rewatch. I hella hate jon snow for killing both of his loyal lovers for a bunch of incels that betrayed him. His character hits hella different after the rise of the manosphere and men fully committing to their misogynistic friend group.

[@yamunap4686]

I think He described her ugly initially because of some kind of stereotypes or hate for wilderings But his myths got broken then he found her attractive and beautiful

[@MateusChristopher]

Makes sense because until that moment he must have thought of proper ladies like sanza as the standard of beautiful

[@TrollinFromFlask]

I mean he talked about specific features that are not attractive and those features are just plain unattractive anywhere in any society or cultural in

[@youtubesucks3811]

That’s how I read it. He didn’t like her but the more he learned from her the more the walls came down. It’s super close to how the real world is. I’ve seen beautiful women look ugly because I got to know them 😂

[@yamunap4686]

@@MateusChristopher yaa because stereotypes play a very heavy role in our point of view Like if you have heard about good characteristics about someone you will respect him when you meet him first but if you have heard his bad characteristics about him since beginning you will probably try to find his mistakes and point him about it but when you personally know him then your point of view changes about him Same happened with Jon because in South of the wall he always got wrong information about free folks which made him to hate them, he must have heard wrong information about the girls also

[@yamunap4686]

@@youtubesucks3811 yaa that happened with me too many times,This happened probably because they are ugly from inside But opposite of this also happened with me when I meet one of my classmates first time I thought he is so ugly and he is very bad in everything but when I talked to him that day he totally impressed me with his communication skills and over a period of time I found many good things in him and now he is my best friend

[@Force-Multiplier]

Bro got Stockholm syndrome after getting colonized by a wildling

[@Bucatini721]

LMAOOOOOO

[@youngjefe4163]

Colonised 😭😭💀💀

[@siddarth3955]

Nah, its just that teenage hormones raging 😂

[@mayaparamita2254]

😅😂

[@laurencote5949]

Lol😂😂😂😂

[@anuragaryan6458]

Love makes anyone attractive

[@davidhooper259]

So does a good piece ass

[@dustinmaxwell259]

DITTO. It's sad that the others can't see it.

[@Slothi_Deathi]

i think ygritte(books) are attractive love or no love, to me she is one of the most beautiful characters

[@jimmykray9583]

Men don’t like ugly women though all men care about is looks let’s be honest

[@davidhooper259]

@@jimmykray9583 when you’re a hammer and have been surrounded by hammers for years but finally see a nail…

[@Josh-99]

My wife, who also has similarly-colored hair (but bright green eyes instead of blue) was a little awkward-looking when we were in 7th, 8th, and 9th grade. I still thought she was amazingly beautiful and had a massive crush on her from the moment I met her on the first day of 7th grade when we had a class together, but she was also a little short for her age and her large eyes and narrow nose seemed unfit for her soft, round face and high, full cheekbones. Fast forward to 10th grade, where she just blossomed over the summer. Her body filled out, her face slimmed down, and suddenly she looked like a Victoria's Secret model. She had a massive growth spurt over the summer, and when she came back to school all the boys wanted her. Imagine my surprise and delight when she asked me out! That was over 31 years ago. We celebrate our 25th wedding anniversary next year.

[@syradon4051]

Super cute.

[@moodylittlebitch2024]

Oh my god, I had to show this to my fiance and ask him if this was his account because that's almost exactly our story😮 (me being the redheaded girl😂 and me and him being together for 6 years) he chuckled when he read this🤣

[@Josh-99]

@@moodylittlebitch2024 The world is a small place, after all! Our story, while cute, is really only unique in America, where people tend to move around a lot. In most countries, it's very common to marry someone you meet during your childhood years, as people don't tend to move around as much. Still, I do feel lucky to have married my wife. Life can be crazy and chaotic, and young people aren't exactly known for their patience and pragmatism; it's something really special that we came together like we did, which is something I'm sure you can relate to!

[@SunDogGod]

@@Josh-99 I wish I lived in a smaller city/town and found somebody young, I hate living in a metropolis with endless choices it’s not healthy for either sex

[@Josh-99]

@@SunDogGod Do remember that different people are different. Even in a small town it's easy to get an abundance of choice by using modern technology, but not everyone is going to care for that. I've had the opportunity to meet a great many beautiful women in my life, partially to being an extrovert with zero sense of shame and partially to getting to travel overseas due to my time in the Navy. However, I'm not one of those people who really puts much value in physical appearances, and while I certainly enjoy and appreciate my wife's incredible beauty, I'm don't find myself attracted to women just on the basis of their looks. As such, I never felt the need to "shop around" given that my wife has an amazing personality. Not everyone is like that, and in this day and age if someone wants to "play the field" it is easy to do so even when living in a relatively small town. I don't think it's especially healthy to be very promiscuous, though, as it can lead one to be cynical and to not value deep personal relationships.

[@e.saputra7323]

I'm convinced that red hair is George's fetish

[@1Gigawatt]

It is, like, two or three of his loves have been redheads

[@xvor_tex8577]

Isnt it all of ours?

[@PeteGlobbs]

@@1Gigawatttheres more blondes and brunettes then redheads

[@kevinesquer6570]

Ros isn’t in the books so it’s just Sansa and ygritte

[@raymondhamill6702]

​@@xvor_tex8577yes

[@metalanarchy5186]

The actress they picked is a very attractive girl and I liked her and thought she was a better match for John she was his true love and I can see why they got married in real life because they had way more chemistry you could tell in the show

[@Ludoed]

average looking at best

[@Hero_Of_Old]

​@@Ludoednah, she's pretty beautiful with blue eyes and fiery hair, not to mention fiery personality. Maybe not as stunning as Dany or Margery, but somehow more attractive.

[@SunDogGod]

She’s pretty don’t get me wrong but she’s got a bit of a strong jaw. But who am I to judge I’d be lucky to have her 😅

[@felipemontero1087]

@@Ludoedeasy to think that when she’s without any makeup, wearing skins as clothes, and snarky and sarcastic most of the time and still is hot as hell. When you see her in interviews she’s even hotter

[@carlo91102]

@@SunDogGod I totally agree with you. At first sight she doesn't look that attractive. But she's that type of girl that might not be stunning but someone who can be found very very beautiful without a "logical reason". Obviously Rose is a beautiful girl, when I just met her in the show she didn't impressed me too much, when Jon start to look at her with other eyes, I was already in love with her hahahaha

[@michaelenglish839]

It gets lonely out in the wild. And cold. Not to mention Tormund's been looking at me kinda weird lately..

[@felipemontero1087]

In all interactions Tormund has with Jon, he mentions the size of his dick. To the point Jon genuinely thinks in a moment “hope he is just bragging and not trying to use it on me”

[@equissage9701]

Because he's so pretty? Compared to whom?

[@davidspooner4582]

Yeah apparently a lot of characters in the books look like gremlins and goblins whereas in the show they look like models

[@mothichorror446]

Believe it or not, most people don't want to see a cast full of gremlins and goblins

[@Yormolch]

@gremvy9854 God damn you, have my like.

[@KSmithwick1989]

So the main character from "Dan Vs". 😆

[@keegan112099]

​@mothichorror446 no you'd rather sexualize them like weirdos 😂

[@Betroid]

Actors

[@straypaper]

Okay even by this exact description she's not even ugly. She has a full round face, cute button nose, beautiful grey blue eyes, and her teeth might be crooked but it's white ffs. Last but not least she has a long curly red hair, like Merida. She's objectively good looking

[@柳麺湯麺炒飯]

she's mid

[@SillySpiderWeb]

Depends on a lot of other features tbh. Human faces very so much, somebody could have all those features and be hideous, or beautiful.

[@Mije101-bz8ph]

OBJECTIVELY good looking? Surely you're kidding, right?

[@scraperindustry]

Pug nose is totally different from button nose though.

[@Pepper_Jvck]

She's probably just supposed to be unconventionally attractive.

[@DVRKSTXR]

Ygritte in the books: *conventionally unattractive* Ygritte in the show: “Wait, why am I swooning all of a sudden?”

[@AtheAetheling]

George seems to use how a character feels about someone to influence how they see them physically, which is quite clever. Another example is Sansa thinking how beautiful Joffrey is until he starts being mean and at that point she starts noticing things about him she doesn't like, like his lips.

[@agnescopperfield9677]

It's realistic too. Personality (and presentation) can really effect how attractive others find you.

[@connaeris8230]

It's not clever, it's how it works in reality

[@AtheAetheling]

@@connaeris8230 Therefore it's clever. Many books don't do it. 🙄Why do people always have to try and argue in internet comment sections? Everyone else had no problem understanding the concept.

[@limitlesssky3050]

​@@AtheAethelingIt's how I perceived women too. At first I find her truly attractive, but the more I felt irritated by her character, the more I notice her flaws in her appearance. Once I hated her, I would feel complete disgust just by looking at her.

[@danielsilvadesouza3060]

​@@limitlesssky3050I'm like this too. I even joke to some friends that "I can't have a boner to a girl I hate" lol.

[@DngrDan]

Every girl I fell madly in love I never thought was a great beauty at first.

[@DeandreSteven]

Same

[@quentingaron6723]

"If you love her because she's beautifull that's no true love. If she's beautifull because you love her then it's true love." -Someone somwhere

[@saddesklunch2544]

The grammatical errors and spelling mistakes make this so much better lol

[@seraph3244]

Sounds like something Tormund would say

[@firstnamelastname7811]

​@@seraph3244😂😂

[@Theevil6ify]

- A teenager trying to sound deep on FB

[@juanferandrade2117]

Think it’s more of a rejection because of being a black brother and possibly making children (Jon has a phobia with making a bastard, plus he’s obsessed with duty), that’s why he turns down Theon when he asks if he’ll join him for a visit to the Brothel in the first book.

[@klas666]

> being a black brother Say what?!

[@juanferandrade2117]

@@klas666 lol that’s what they also call the Nights watch men

[@Jess-yo9rt]

​@@klas666hahahahahahahahhahaha

[@CSPaffy]

She also reminds him of his little sister. Which he mentions in every chapter from when they meet to when she dies

[@johndunn1625]

What's the quote from Starship Troopers? "Force is the basis from which all other rights originate". Can't remember what the exact verbiage is, but it's basically explaining that if you don't have the force to back up what you claim are rights, then they aren't really rights in the first place

[@briandickerson3243]

I think Jon may have been an unreliable narrator, in his case he was trying to find excuses why he’s not attracted to her. She was probably gorgeous 😂

[@DarthSidian]

Jon was denying himself. He was exaggerating his roast of her looks because he actually found her attractive.

[@MacTac141]

Yes she was more attractive in the show, but then again so was pretty much every other character (aside from maybe Cat) Actors are usually more attractive than just average people, shocking I know

[@iidentifyasanapacheattackh3626]

No one wants to look at ugly people for 45-90 minutes

[@360entertainment2]

That sure became the case in the 90’s, no chance of ever seeing a Charles Bronson looking dude being a leading man after 96-97

[@ymiras7881]

Margaery, Cersei, and one of Daenerys’ maids although were pretty beautiful looking characters I would say that their counterparts on the books are described to be even more astounding

[@SillySpiderWeb]

Omg what are you talking about cat is literally a milf.

[@Mije101-bz8ph]

Melisandre in the books is way more attractive than her actress.

[@necrofuryan5899]

Jon: "You should smile more." Ygritte: "K." And they lived happily ever after for a while.

[@lorcanmcgeehan9106]

Really she was just the first woman he’d seen in half a year.

[@XOPOIIIO]

She wasn't in northerners idea of beauty, but wildlings found her very attractive.

[@feral26]

I remember how Sansa had the opposite experience with Joffrey. At first she thought he was the handsomest boy in the world. Then, after Ned's execution, she realizes how his lips looked like two worms pushed together. Everyone knows how a person's looks can effect how we see their personality. And yet at the same time, a person's personality can also effect how we see their looks.

[@MrNachtgespenst]

I just recently read the exact moment and I'm pretty sure, he never called her ugly. He described her looking just as you said, but never outright said those words. Could be a language thing though, as I am reading it in german🤷🏽‍♂️

[@mohammedbechirkhaddouma5042]

He grows to love her despite trying his best not to 😢 well that hit close to home

[@kevind3974]

To me in the books it was always just an ugly duckling situation. Now she definitely wasn’t hot but as he also meet her when she was filthy. Once she was clean I could definitely see her being quite cute

[@Suicidal_Soy_Sauce]

It's weird how personality can affect attraction. In my young days I focused a lot on looks. But as I grew up I realized the most beautiful people in the world can be straight unattractive just by their attitude and how they interact with someone. I've been wooed by some girls who some wouldn't say we're all to attractive looking but the more you interact with each other and enjoy each other's company, you'll notice your affection towards them.

[@stlegion-px1wo]

Yggrite is also the first women he slept with he is also mid puberty he’s also 14/15 in book 1 if my own experiences with puberty at that age your standards of attractiveness gets lower between 15-19 especially if your not getting any and Jon is a teenager boy getting lucky for the first time

[@blanco-sanchez450]

Jon fought hard to preserve his virginity 🫡

[@starwarfan8342]

It is true that you notice people's physical flaws less and less if you're in love with them, or the flaws become enhancements even

[@liltwestsidebangin]

That’s cuz she was covered in an ungodly amount of furs but when they cuddled he thought back to how he was wrong and his manhood was bugging him lmao. Then when they laid together in the spring in that cave he fell in love.

[@MrToBeEvil]

Actually, in the books John sleeps with her because he was specifically ordered to not balk at any of their customs so the wildlings would think he'd truly become one of them. Specifically, ygrett lies to the king beyond the walls and tells him that they're already sleeping together.

[@DanKnowles-i6t]

That Gawk Gawk 3000 makes a man fall in love for sure

[@bluntlyhonest6803]

Its not actually prohibited by the oath to have sex, you just cant marry or have kids. So as long as you practice safe casual sex, its AOK.

[@osmanshah5046]

Is it just me but doesn’t anyone you sleep with regularly just automatically seem more attractive to you?

[@carolinemitchell4112]

I think rose Leslie is a very well cast “tv” version of this description. There’s something undeniably attractive about her but I wouldn’t call her traditionally beautiful

[@thatguy913]

She ain’t short or round faced at all. her jawline is strong as hell, no where near round. But I think her personality worked well for it and her and johns chemistry was fantastic. It makes it hard to believe he even came close to loving Dany in an equivalent amount to her

[@santiagojara8056]

To be fair that's just a highborn kid looking at a peasant.

[@thatguy913]

Looking at a tribal lol

[@aliasfakename3159]

If Jon is 16 then Ygritte is 19. She's shorter than him from malnourishment

[@thatguy913]

That’s not remotely true. The average 16 year old male is like 5’8 while an adult male average is like 5’10. The average adult women is 5’3. Most boys are taller then their mother pretty much just post puberty

[@TheSherlock24]

Another thing in the books, why he finds her unattractive, is her hair, which looks to him like she washes it once per year or so

[@gabrielsoares6374]

tbf the first time they saw each other she had just woken up in the middle of a combat after poorly sleeping on the ground of a rocky frozen mountain

[@foreverjune8]

It's a breath of fresh air, books way too often like to describe characters as either too beautiful like Cersei, Jaime and Daenerys or too ugly like Tyrion. I kind of dig that the show averaged out the ugliness and the beauty and made everyone look more or less okay.

[@TacShooter]

Part of me died with Ygritte.

[@ValerieSmith-du2pz]

I feel this... it foreshadows how men feel about strong women in general.

[@hannotn]

Let's face it, beggars can't be choosers. John had never had sex and he lives in a fridge with a bunch of blokes. He had to grab the only chance he was likely to get.

[@equissage9701]

Compared to the Mole's Town whores, she was a supermodel. Not much of a compliment though.

[@rosabellavitaalvarez-calde5836]

He chose not to have sex while in Winterfell and knows that the Night's Watch brothers do visit brothels. Technically they are not allowed to have bonds that will compromise their duty, like marriage and parenthood, there is nothing that mandates chastity

[@Bioguy5]

Jon was just coping HARD trying to convince himself Ygritte wasn't hot.

[@AnArtInEveryLabor]

Book Ygritte be lookin' like an extra from the Croods

[@S_047]

Hollywood: no ugly people

[@DND_and_Star_wars_enjoyer]

That was hollywood then now hollywood is like: let's bring enclusivity and other hippie and LGBTQ nonsence and destroy all that made our films great.

[@merrybright5732]

@@DND_and_Star_wars_enjoyeryou think content was great in the past because it revolved around straight white guys with a singular worldview?

[@equissage9701]

​@@merrybright5732 Yes.

[@mum-your]

@@merrybright5732 their worldview had more depth, saying as a non white person

[@mitedupev7956]

I'm reading the book now ,and I just passed that part where he let her go and when he find Ghost and he's really attacked by an eagle

[@kaori1621]

Is this series good?

[@moistcement]

Very.

[@johnwright6706]

It's not finished, with no possibility of being finished before the author dies. He started writing in the 90s, he's had 5 books published of the story, the last one was published in 2011. Might be a great story, but the TV shows are the only ones that are concluded.

[@yas7644]

​@@johnwright6706he will finish the books, a good story needs time but a masterclass needs a lot of time. Plus there are spin off books like duncan and egg... Stop being immature

[@angelhurtado55]

so good you'll never get to read the ending

[@MadameTamma]

@@johnwright6706 GRR Martin has stated that it makes him really uncomfortable when fans act worried that he may die before the book series ends. Imagine if someone said to you, "You're old and and you don't look healthy. Give us the books quick before you croak old man!" He's a person enjoying his life. He's more than just his work

[@Zombiemommie2000]

That’s the best kind of love when u really didn’t see them that way at first but you can feel and see your perception of them changing and ur trying to not have feelings for them like that but you just can’t help it

[@coldhands2802]

Nah I listened to the chapter today when they were in the grotto.. he for sure described her as beautiful when she let all her clothing loose..

[@rickyjayster2586]

Once he got a hit of that Kitty, sumthing he never had his other head took over lol

[@jurreversluis4365]

Heyyy! Iam looking to read the books, are there any books with that art you show in youre videos? What do you recommend? And where can i buy that? Thank you!❤

[@perlundgren7797]

Most of the pictures he shows are just fanart, so you won't find them in any books. There are illustrated editions you can search for, though.

[@sirfailalotful]

I think a theme of asoiaf is that attachment and respect change how you view someone, even to the overlooking of their outward appearance. This is why I suspect Jaime and Brienne might actually become a thing, because even though Cersei is ostensibly one of the most beautiful people in the series, Jaime is starting to recognize her rotten inner self and by contrast, appreciate Briennes strength of character in spite of her appearance.

[@Emy-fv5ny]

Exactly. That is why was disappointed when they chose a beautiful actress for playing Ygritte.

[@linuskl8036]

Geiler typ. Hab das space frogs video auch gesehen, und mir manchmal sehr stark die stirn gerunzelt.

[@Emy-fv5ny]

I always believe they should be faithful to the book with her appareace because there is a lesson in the way he fell for her.

[@Pepper_Jvck]

This is where they got the casting pretty decent, actually. I mean yes, Rose Leslie is very beautiful, but not conventionally beautiful. She's beautiful in an unusual way.

[@Ray_D_Tutto]

I love Ygritte's hairstyle in that first image. What is it called?

[@melissaisloud7404]

The only thing he finds attractive about her is the thing that makes him think of Sansa (the “sister” who never had a sisterly bond) and Catelyn (the mother figure who could never accept him).

[@happilyevernever4289]

Stop making this weird😂😂

[@byronmilleriii7057]

Love the artwork

[@username9045]

Just to be clear, the actress who plays Ygritte is **BREATHTAKINGLY** beautiful, regardless of Jon Snow's real or fictional opinion, in the books, the show, or real life

[@dawidwojacki5049]

Yep, this is how falling in love works. You'll always find something beautiful in your partner

[@skirnireta1003]

And at another time, in another universe, they both had a happy ending and married.

[@Gwinblade03]

He also thought she looked like Arya.

[@yurp7444]

She held the reigns in their relationship. She was raised with more freedom to be confident and assured. Jon was always second-guessing and worried about the many rules and vows he had to abide by. She took his virginity. 😗

[@equissage9701]

Reins.

[@GrinningNimbus]

This is why Shinobi were hardcore in reality. They had to do stuff like this and then abandon them to be tortured along with any children they had. And they would go in knowing that would happen just so they could get intel on the enemy side for their lord

[@majorasmask5523]

Honestly, I can’t blame Jon for loving her in either medium. Redheads are beyond incredible.

[@tuckernutter]

A Targaryen and a wildling? How curious a union should a baby arrive

[@thetkexperience9408]

Funny part, that’s his wife in real life 😂

[@benedictjephcote6815]

It's kind of a shame that there weren't the odd few more not quite so 'stereotypically beautiful' actresses in the show. I think it's rough that TV shows inadvertently warp people's standards of what to look for in a partner - but I guess I'm tripping into a whole 'nother tangent of eels here. Beauty's in a smile, it's in personality - and it's great when you see it and feel it :)

[@justinezafra]

Yoo ner noothin, Jon Sner! ❄️

[@LisaMariavanHarmelen]

To be honest. I never thought she was good looking in the show.

[@brett103]

Didn’t know anyone described her as attractive in the show either 😂

[@thecomradewarda]

I know have deferent taste but she’s just conventionally attractive.

[@GetALifeMiley]

Jon & Ygritte should have had more screen time together

[@josephwilson1385]

"I'm wearing you down, John Snow. I'm wearing you DOOWWNN." *Ygritte's face but Steve Erkle's voice.*

[@merleshand2442]

When there's no other women around they all look good

[@ryanquick07]

Makes more sense why Jon was trying to clap Auntie D's cheeks

[@ilphi08]

Jon says Ygritte was attractive on regular standard, but would be average in the court

[@lloydgutierez9291]

now this is true love

[@prottoy90]

He actually liked Val

[@dulcineadark3567]

Schönheit wächst mit der Sympathie!😊

[@ellaphx]

That's how physical attraction works for me 🤷‍♀️ I can't truly find a person attractive until I get to know them. Then they become physically attractive to me, regardless of looks.

[@samanthabarron8481]

Me too. Every time.

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

John is trying to not find her attractive. He isn't a reliable narrator on her looks.

[@maning04]

The actress who played Ygritte was beautiful.

[@tonirichardson7486]

Sadest😢 death in all deaths

[@fluidarana3637]

"At a lord's court the girl would never have been considered anything but common, he knew. She had a round peasant face, a pug nose, and slightly crooked teeth and her eyes were too far apart. Jon had noticed all that the first time he'd seen her, when his dirk had been at her throat. Lately, though, he was noticing some other things. When she grinned, the crooked teeth didn't seem to matter. And maybe her eyes were too far apart, but they were a pretty blue-grey color, and lively as any eyes he knew. Sometimes she sang in a low husky voice that stirred him. And sometimes by the cookfire when she sat hugging her knees with the flames waking echoes in her red hair, and looked at him, just smiling . . . well, that stirred some things as well. "

[@hdeodh]

he is secretly hate F*cking Lady Stark

[@Snorlax11574]

Song name?

[@blackmailer26]

And then he marries her and has kids with her and they lived happily ever after.

[@justdirt]

He down plays this, but Ygritte was 19 and Jon was 15. She coerced Jon to sleep with her. It was essentially rape. Jon's journey in Clash and Storm mirrors Dany's journey in GoT. Having their innocence stolen from them way too young. Put in a foreign culture they don't understand with practices and customs they don't agree with morally. Both Jon and Dany kill (indirectly) their abusers and both remember them fondly. But it's just teenagers failing to properly cope with their first real relationships being built off of coercion and having no power. Jon couldn't have said no to Ygritte, he would've been killed if he didn't. Dany couldn't say no, Drogo was much bigger and held all the power. Both Jon and Dany have trouble with relationships later on. Jon sends away his closest friend, turns down Val's advances, and the only person Jon has any romantic tension with is Satin. Jon never calls any women pretty, but he does with Satin. This isn't something out of left field either. Remember that Dany also experiments with her sexuality. Her first time ever enjoying it was with a girl, the only time in between Drogo's death and Mereen is with other women. That all being said, I do love Satin as a character a bit too much. He only has like 3 lines total, but he is Jon's steward for all of book 5. It makes me worried for Satin's fate in Winds. The wall is a powder keg and everything can go fucking insane with Jon's death. Jon was literally the only person stopping his Brothers from committing war crimes against the free folk.

[@timmodrow437]

Jon was sixteen when he joined the freefolk. He also had to do it in order to keep his cover and survive amongst them. I wouldn’t call that rape.

[@randomguyontheinternet8345]

In the medieval era. 13 was considered an adult. In this time period this wasnt considered grooming. In this era people were married by 13 had children at 15 and were dead by 30-40. Its a very different time period. The books are based on this era.

[@justdirt]

@timmodrow437 "he had to do it" Meaning he didn't and couldn't give consent. That is rape. It was still a grown adult abusing their position to force a young teen to sleep with them.

[@justdirt]

@randomguyontheinternet8345 No, this is a very common misconception. 16 was generally considered adulthood in Europe throughout history. Almost no one, especially non nobles, would get married younger than that. Yes, people who were much older sometimes married young teens, but in exceedingly rare instances were they expected to consumate said marriage until the child was of age. Even with this cultural difference of time, 15/16 year olds were still children. A major part of the story is showing how harsh it was on kids having to grow up much faster than they should have to. Jon losing his virginity to Essentially a stranger who forced herself onto him through the threat of death, that's tragic. Jon could've been 19, and it still would've been rape. The fact that Jon was at minimum 3 to 4 years younger and still a teen only enforces that it was rape. In fact, even if Jon consented verbally, it wouldn't have mattered. Because at that point, it would be grooming and coercion.

[@xxlCortez]

It's funny that a 15 years old is apparently old enough to spend his life among cutthroats, fighting against savages and ice demons but a 4 years older girl convincing him to sleep with her is rape.

[@hellothere-ij2ij]

It's easier to love a beautiful person But that is an abdication of true love

[@MollieCahill]

When this description sounds exactly like me except for the hair color 😭😭😭

[@mp6640]

He was in love with that sweet sweet box Lmao 😂

[@ssa6227]

Everything in the books is not good or at least show worthy. Like Tyrion being so ugly or Dario having very strange colored clothes. At least I have to give credits to show makers for this.

[@zoebedford3318]

she is beautiful inside and out. Ygritte is one of the best characters and it is so sad that she died 😢