Washing Machine Box

[@markevans9620]

I’m adding a laundry room on the first level of my home. You video is exactly what I needed explaining the codes in detail along with a point-by-point narration. Great job!!

[@jmanning002]

I appreciate your timely response, and it is 2". I must be missing something. Please explain why it would not handle the upstairs washer if it's handling the first floor washer and has for 30+ years.

[@Rdelgadolv]

This video gives an excellent summary of codes to keep in mind, which is very helpful for someone like me who is installing a box for the first time. Thanks!

[@55project]

Awesome video. My daughter has been battling the smell issue for a while now and has took it apart and cleaned everything inside the washer. I tried to tell her about this and this is the video i needed to send to her to see. Thanks

[@JohnSmith-gu3ub]

Finally found a video where everything is explained thoroughly. Thank you!

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

Thank you

[@bernardzecca1825]

Not everything. I dont recall him mentioning how far off the floor the box should be.

[@ouchman4212]

Thanks for showing the stud shoes. I wasn't sure how to support a 2x4 with a 2" drain pipe going through it.

[@jjramz6618]

Thank you keifer Sutherland for this great video. Easy to follow along when its time to do mine. 👍🏽

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

lol ... thanks

[@bp4170]

Thanks for being direct and to the point. Very easy to understand the way you present.

[@rogerhodges7656]

Good job! Your information about the minimum distance between the trap and the standpipe is missing in most videos that I have seen.

[@jesseg.1673]

Thank you! Your video was very informative. I'll be installing one of these in the next two weeks. It will be in an existing home so I'll have to cut the existing sheetrock to be able to secure the box and observe how the drain runs. (The sheetrock is textured so I'll cut the "rock" down the middle of a stud and save the pieces to reinstall them),

[@gregoryfrank6047]

Nice clear explanation. Wasn’t quite sure how to vent the box so I appreciate the help.

[@decision-maker1738]

Great job!!! Exactly the help I was looking for because I'm getting ready to install one with a Studor vent. Thank you!!!

[@cfomusic73]

Great video. Really like how you explained everything in detail. Best explanation on KZbin!

[@andrewhageman1817]

Best presentation on this topic I've seen. Thanks!

[@johnhughes4130]

Great presentation! Well explained. Favorite line: "you start gettin' stink and stuff up in your house".

[@GenXdad]

Most informative video on washing machine draining on youtube. awesome job. Thanks..

[@davidcrawford6505]

Thanks. I'm about to tackle a washing machine/dryer relocate. This helps immensely.

[@richiezuniga7967]

Great side notes, but still on track with everything leading up to the main topic. Enjoyed , liked, and subscribed!

[@MrItsthething]

Great video, love the explanation. One thing I will add is that 3:33 is not true, this is not an S-trap. An S-trap is against code because there is no vent. What you have created is actually a crown vent, and it will not siphon itself empty. I believe these are against code because the water has a tendency to get up into the vent, causing it to clog over time.

[@ivani8511]

If the sanitary tee is horizontal with AAV going up and it goes horizontal in the wall after that where it turns down, does the sanitary tee and P trap still create a crown vent?

[@MrItsthething]

@@ivani8511 Depends how close the tee is to the trap. After the vent, the pipe is allowed to go down since air can enter before the section of pipe where a slug of water could form and plug the pipe. A crown vent is created when the vent is too close to the trap; basically, as water leaves the trap, it is travelling upwards and tends to fill the pipe. As flow velocity increases, the water occupies less of the area of the pipe, and an air pocket forms on top of the water. If a tee is too close to the trap where the water is still filling the pipe, it's possible to introduce contaminants into the vent which will plug it over time. This may not apply in all areas, but I have heard that a vent must be at most 5 feet from the trap, and no less than twice the pipe diameter of the trap. I have also heard that anything below the flood level of the fixture using the drain must be plumbed as if it handled water, basically your AAV would have to have a 45-wye combo. But, I have seen many cases where this is not done and a sanitary tee is used instead. Again, likely that only some codes require that.

[@garycasper2929]

Great conversation. I think you may of miss read that second code at 2:30 Where it states to revert back to P2706.2 Pertaining to stand pipes. In other words, the 18” to 42” rule still applies.

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

codes are weird, a "P" trap can't be more then 24" from the drain. so I'm not sure who cancels who out. I just set it at 20" and I'm fine .

[@ruthbrowning7564]

Thank you for explaining the correct way now I know why my smells at times

[@KarlChristofferson]

i wish i had worked with you when i was a kid. great teacher

[@KevininNC]

We are hooking up our washer in a new home and in this home it is set up like at 7:26 where both holes are open. We have no idea which side to put our washer drain hose on. There are pipes on both sides. Is there anyway to tell which side to use?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

My trick is to take a piece of 1/2 pex pipe (or something similar) stick it in the holes all the way to the bottom and blow on it. if it bubbles, you're in the "P" trap. That is the drain.

[@BMRNYC]

Excellent video! You literally covering everything! Thanks!

[@cfomusic73]

Very good video explaining 2 options...... thank you!

[@tracybehrman2579]

I had a handyman "plumber" install a box along with hooking up kitchen sink, shower, vanity and toilet. When the washing machine empties on medium or large load, the toilet bubbles, water comes up from the drain into the shower basin and the sinks gurgle. Is there anyway I can send you pictures of what this guy did so you can tell me what the problem is? He said the plumbing is vented, but I have no pictures of that. Thanks.

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

Adding new to old.. The old pipes probably have some build up in them, causing a restriction. you didn't notice it before cause all the pipes had the build up. That is if it is truly vented. Have your drains cameraed and cleaned. Hydo-jetting with some degreaser will work the best.

[@samuelandraws7136]

Thank you very much for such a great, informative and detailed video. Would you please provide the code reference where it is permitted to use an AAV as a means of ventilation for the laundry stand pipe? I need to keep it for my records as I am going through this same remodeling now. Thank you in advance.

[@supremefattyvlog]

I did the second option, and did the EXACT set up just in 1½ inch pex (I'm in a 70ft trailer)... You saved me... Thank you 😎🙏

[@mattthomson1689]

Now I learned how to vent my washer/garage combo. Thank you!

[@pvpv6969]

Great video. Thank you. I need to install one in my basement how would i do the standpipe if i need to pump water up to main waste drain? It is about 6' up and runs along back wall.

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

the trap and standpipe will be the same. then you'll drop that into your pump.

[@jrm163]

Good information! BTW, which box do you recommend please? The boxes in HD/LOWES got terrible reviews. Thanks!

[@andydouglass1374]

I have an IPS Du-All outlet box, and will be installing on an ABS DWV system. I cannot find info on how to plumb the Studor into the box. I am assuming that vent pipe for the Studor will be cemented into the box for the pressure test (like the standpipe). Once the pressure test is done, and I knockout the cap, I believe I need a spigot X FPT adapter, but it seems like the drain socket in the outlet box has a stop inside of it that is smaller diameter than the ID of the 2" drain pipe, which seems like it would make installing a spigot fitting impossible. IPS documentation not the greatest.

[@nealjt13]

Same issue I just dealt with. Have it all installed except the vent won’t fit in the box. 2” pipe won’t fit in the top.

[@mackellyman5642]

Did anyone notice the drainage fittings on the Air Admittance Valve? Excellent content.

[@tai78744]

Thank you for the detailed explanation, especially the code requirement portion. Excellent video!

[@ivani8511]

Excellent video. I am working against a finished wall with a drain pipe going in the wall horizontal. P trap and AAV are outside the wall. Much like kitchen sink. In opinion 2 if the AAV goes down with a horizontal sanitary tee, do I still have to leave 2x diameter between the P trap and sanitary tee as there is horizontal drain after the vent. Hope I explained it well .

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

Yes

[@ADRIAN-gb5mi]

THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR KNOWLEDGE WHIT US. HI FROM MEXICO.

[@patrickbellefleur5508]

Code should require pipe on both drains or a box that only allows one knockout for each drain. I say this because my HVAC guy ran his condensate from the attic into the top of the box and to one of those drains. If they did not pipe the 2nd knockout it would have been an issue at completion when the washer gets connected. luckily on my house both knockouts have a drain so i am in good shape.

[@catoway312]

Thanks brother. I’m a carpenter trying to plumb mom’s house. 😅

[@michaelvelasco7942]

Great information. I'm doing a remodel and need to replace the box. Is it code to glue the drain to the box? If so, I cut the drain pipe and use an extension/insert to get the drain back in the proper location?

[@seery88]

Does the Air admittance valve need to be at least as high as the drain opening? In other words, i have a studdar vent below the sink...Thank You!!

[@paultreasure6562]

Amazing video... Through and through.. Very thorough....

[@capn1600]

Great video, very informative, direct and to the point

[@lindatorres9311]

how far down does the ribbed drain hose from the washing machine go down into the drain pipe? (just asking because I had a new machine installed by a big box store and have been getting sewer gases into the house lately. I never had that with an old machine that I had for 10 years). Thanks for a great video.

[@Allen-c3x]

Excellent video. My only question is how high should the studor vent be in relation to the drain?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

it just says above the drain

[@aleccheck277]

I'm trying to relocate a washer and dryer upstairs for a customer and I have everything but the drain ran at the moment because I'm to far away from a vent. I'm not putting the pipes in the wall due to the customer not wanting the sheet rock cut into, but at 6:03 in the video you showed a vent coming back up from the tee. How far up from the tee do I have to be for the vent to work properly if I was running it straight up?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

If you're going use an AAV it has to be above the rim of the standpipe. (the drain pipe)

[@andrewmccormick3545]

Can you use an AAV on a laundry pump system? Moved laundry to basement and venting the pump thru the roof is a lot.

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

No, it needs to breath both ways. studer makes a charcoal vent that you could use .

[@andrewmccormick3545]

Okay thanks , the diagram in the instruction manual says using an aav is okay as long as you connect back to the drain line 20 pipe diameters from its horizontal point

[@ksparky388]

Thanks so much for the video. Quick question, the two ends of the pvc trap is different. One side has a sharper turn than the other. What end do I put the sandpipe in? Thanks for your time.

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

Well, the ones in the video are backwards, a student put them on backwards and I just left it.

[@LongtowerNyc]

On the 90 coming from the standpipe p trap shouldn’t that be a long sweep.? I thought code wouldn’t allow a short sweep 90 for drains and only on vents.

[@pedropereira8924]

Thanks i m watching for secundaria time very well done; blessings brother!!!

[@Deep_Divers]

Very good presentation. Much appreciated!

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

You're very welcome!

[@rudyromano2402]

Thank you for sharing .This is what i needed to see and know .

[@jonathansss14]

Super informative video! Great stuff!

[@ranger178]

reading those quotes from codes it looks like maximum standpipe for a washing machine does not follow the 24 inch limit it goes 18 to 42

[@afroman979]

if I wanted to add a laundry sink, how should I tie into the first set up (w/stack vent going up to the roof)?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

Add a sanitary Tee to the standpipe above the P trap

[@PoisonShot20]

I'm draining it to the yard, not into the septic system. Do I still have to vent it and fallow the 24/18" code? The drain line will be about 6' from the P trap. Also can I use 1" 1/4 pipe, instead of 1" 1/2 ? Thank you!

[@BENJAMIN-zi4gv]

They have my washer vented with a studer valve under my Kitchen sink. The wash always comes up into the sink a few inches. I'm thinking about adding another studer vent at the box. Do you think that would resolve my issues of it coming up into my sink?. My washer box doesn't have room for a studer vent. Is there a small box I can get to put the vent next to my washer box?

[@jaydenway1397]

No raise your vent under the sink to about the rim top then throw on your studer

[@chrisyoung8759]

I'm moving washer over 6 feet or so in the laundry room. The current setup has no ptrap. It is also located against an outside wall. Can I still drill two holes in the load bearing stud so I can do the vent option you mentioned? And if so, what are those metal deals called that are on the stud? Thank you.

[@s.d.s.plumbing8388]

At 4 mins in. Im going to argue this. Those fittings are made that the trap weir, when installed fitting to fitting, is at least 2 pipe diameters from the inlet of the vent.

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

?

[@christianramirez8234]

Great video brother !!!

[@bonezj117]

Great great video! Best and detailed video I seen in a long time, you got a new sub!

[@mrpickle219]

When you break a vent below the flood rim you are required to use drainage fittings. The washing machine stand pipe allowance is 18"-30".

[@DR-um2bv]

Why does it matter how long the stand is? , does the water try to come back up the pipe?

[@mrpickle219]

So that it doesn't siphon out the trap seal. The water discharge from the washing is under pressure. Take a bucket of water and pour it down your toilet with full dumping. The water in the toilet trap(bowel) will be siphoned out after the bucket pour. Same principle.

[@rudekperezacupuncturist]

Would a modern anti-siphon serves the same purpose as the p trap?

[@unityroad]

Hi where can I get that box?

[@ryanh2277]

Excellent video with clear explanation of how all of this works. Question: If the stand pipe is vertical down to the larger drain exiting the house, how would you add a p-trap? Can you run the trap over into the next stud bay, and then using 2 90 deg elbows rout it back to the original stud bay and then down the drain? We have access to the attic so I could run the vent pipe up from the adjacent stud bay. We just bought a house in the country and have horrible sewer smell coming from the washing machine stand pipe.

[@joltjolt5060]

I did too. I took the drain hose out, slowly poured water into it, and no smell. Your p trap dried out.

[@jerrywalker3569]

Thank you for this very informative video, I strive to keep everything tight and functional. Would you have the brand of the box and vent, having trouble finding the double drain set up with valves, hammer arresters. Found a few, but looking at pics they don’t seem to have enough room for the head of the vent. Thanks!

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

www.bing.com/shop/productpage?q=ips+washing+machine+box&filters=scenario%3a%2217%22+gType%3a%2212%22+gId%3a%2297611031356%22+gIdHash%3a%220%22+gGlobalOfferIds%3a%2297611031356%22+AucContextGuid%3a%220%22+GroupEntityId%3a%2297611031356%22+NonSponsoredOffer%3a%22True%22&productpage=true&FORM=SHPPDP&browse=true

[@LoveMunch-ev8uh]

Can a stand pipe go diagonal? Say at a 45° pitch?

[@yaboooy08]

Excellent video. Thank you for explaining it clear and to the point.

[@elementl1166]

Excellent video. Thanks for the info!

[@Evrydyryder]

Another question... can this be installed in current construction. Installing a washing machine into a laundry room without a drain.

[@Brumasterj]

Man your video may have helped me with a problem we have had in our old house since we bought it! Our washer has always over flowed at the drain we constantly have to monitor it when washing! I know for a fact there is no vent tied into the drain so I would guess that is why it over flows?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

You could have some build up in the pipe too

[@birtbernard]

Thank You for a great tutorial. Thank you sir, very well done.

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

thank you

[@metalfrog591]

Excellent video. Thanks!

[@worldview730]

6:11, how are you connecting this studor vent?

[@Azjimbob1]

We are installing Two Washers and Two Dryers, stackable, next to each other in new construction. Could you explain how drains would be installed? Using a single 2" drain to the right of the two outlet boxes. Thanks in Advance, JR

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

Both need to be trapped , just one lower than the other . Then two sanitary tee's stacked on top of each other at your drain , you will want to go to a 3 inch pipe as soon as possible, and make sure it is vented.

[@jasonstephens6190]

I thought that the 24” code for a trap does not a apply to a washer box, instead is from 18-30 inches stand pipe

[@peterwest323]

You are correct, for any area following the UPC. 2019 UPC 804.1 Standpipe Receptors Plumbing fixtures or other receptors receiving the discharge of indirect waste pipes shall be approved for the use proposed and shall be of such shape and capacity as to prevent splashing or flooding and shall be located where they are readily accessible for inspection and cleaning. No standpipe receptor for a clothes washer shall extend more than 30 inches (762 mm), or not less than 18 inches (457 mm) above its trap. No trap for a clothes washer standpipe receptor shall be installed below the floor, but shall be roughed in not less than 6 inches (152 mm) and not more than 18 inches (457 mm) above the floor. Of course, local codes take precedence so always check with your inspector on what is allowed. Also, some areas do not follow the UPC. Anyone in California, unless your local jurisdiction has amended it, follow the 2019 UPC.

[@MightyMatt28]

Great video, thanks for taking the time.

[@bhavadasaacbsp3274]

Great video! Gave it a thumbs-up and subscribed. Thanks.

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

Thanks

[@annagaru]

Can i put a Tee to the standpipe and connect it to a new Utility sink. Since i dont have a separate rough-in for the Utility sink in laundry room, I was planning to put a 'Tee' on the existing Standpipe for the washing machine and connect the P-trap of Utility sink to the Standpipe with a 'Tee'. Are there any specific height where i should put the Tee on the Standpipe? Let me know your thoughts. If there any any videos for this let me know too. Thanks,

[@bkt6025]

Maybe you could help...Can I U turn the horizontal pipe coming out of the P trap ?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

You mean like a sideways S or ~ . Old houses had S traps , we are not allowed to use them anymore. But old hardware stores still have them.

[@bkt6025]

@@PlumbingSolutionsLLC thank you for replying, but I just redid everything, exactly like you showed

[@Troy-Moses]

Curious, at what point along that drainpipe (including the standpipe) could a kitchen sink be connected?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

below the P trap

[@rogerhodges7656]

I have a problem. I need to install a laundry on the second floor of a 1947 home. There is no other plumbing on the second floor. I can get access to a 4" toilet vent stack that is about 4 feet from my proposed laundry location. That vent stack services a single bathroom with toilet, tub and vanity sink. Can I connect to that stack and have a system that will work? Not necessarily code legal but will it work?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

4" should be able to handle that. but you might get a gurgle or two out that downstairs bathroom.

[@rogerhodges7656]

@@PlumbingSolutionsLLC Thanks! I hate to Mickey Mouse things but, I am trapped between finished cabinet backs and backsplash in the kitchen and fully tiled walls in the entire bathoom. I don't have accesible reference points above and below and am hard pressed to get a new 2" stack where it needs to be.

[@brianv5938]

Could this box be used for a dishwasher drain and supply?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

I don't see why not. They may make a box for that,

[@WoodnWaterGuy]

I had a plumber install the washer box and the admitting valve just straight up from the drain that's going down under the house , he placed it in the wall behind the sheet rock is that ok ?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

no , it has to be accessible

[@MasaMuneDenadoro]

Just bought a house and they have their standpipe running about 24 inches down, then it turns 90 degrees horizontal to go thru the wall and outside, and then verical again and then it pipes outside into open irrigation, but its a sloppy set up. I want to create a p trap outside, below the 90 degree turn outside and then pipe it out to my 3 inch out to septic. But if it's 18inch minimum to p trap, does that mean I have to start again at 18 inches from that 90 degree horizontal turn where it goes outside? Or will the 24inches I have before that turn be enough to push the water thru the trap?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

yes that should work

[@brianlittle717]

I’m wanting to move mine to another room and this really helped a lot. Why did you decide against Pex A?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

Cost

[@Sean-Aviation]

is there any difference in plumbing if i stack washing and dryer machines or is it the same? small laundry room

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

No, same set up

[@Sean-Aviation]

@@PlumbingSolutionsLLC thanks. is the plumbing always behind the machined?

[@skyloom1]

Excellent Video. Very well explained.

[@bluesdirt6555]

How would you cut in a drain for a laundry sink ?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

put a wye in above the p-trap

[@whateveritwasitis]

cant find the answer on the drainage...the drain hose out of the washer HAS to go higher than the water level its pumping out? or can the drain line just come out of the machine and down ?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

If it goes straight down, it will keep siphoning the water out. it has to have an air brake at some point.

[@westbccoast]

Good video, thanks for explaining in detail

[@HomeGarage-k7m]

Great Job, perfect explanation

[@jon-paulallgaier2252]

Great info!! Well done.

[@lucaslongfellow7669]

What vent is it cause my oatey vent wont fit?

[@josemachado1689]

Thanks For information,,, n Good video

[@jmanning002]

Great video. I learned a lot and I subscribed, thanks! I have framed out a second story laundry room which is basically a carbon copy of the laundry room just below on the first floor. My problem is that I have no way of running a separate drain line other than out the attic wall and down the outside of the house which I really do not want to do. So, my question is, irrespective of codes, can I tap into the vent line from the washer below with out a problem given that both washers would not be running at the same time? My only other option is to tap into the 3" or 4" vent from one of the downstairs bathrooms but it's at least 20 feet away. Please advise and thanks so much.

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

umm.. is it 2 " . 2" isn't going to handle that ,

[@jmanning002]

@@PlumbingSolutionsLLC Thank you for your prompt reply. I respect your opinion and you obvious experience. However, this drain has served the downstairs washer for 30+ years without any problems. Given that and the fact that both washers would never run at the same time, why would it not work? I have no reason to doubt what you say but I would appreciate an explanation. Please advise and thanks again.

[@tridaddy66]

What a great explanation! Thank you.

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ruvimtrofimovich]

Great informative video. How long can the run between the p trap and the sanitary tee be?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

Has to be at least 2X the diameter of the pipe. here it's 2" pipe, so the length is at least 4"

[@dannystephenshiking951]

Is the 18- 24” on the stand pipe a national or state code?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

International plumbing code IPC

[@shanemattox6548]

I need to vent mine but... I do not have access to top side of T-drain like your vent. How would I install vent then?

[@PlumbingSolutionsLLC]

You will have to cut the pipe

[@jaysonbohnert6373]

Thanks for sharing. This was very informative.

[@Ni_ghtmare]

Im in a trailer and could go through the roof if needed, but to divert having to cut the roof could I go through the side of the wall outside of the wall?