Uber knew drivers risked debt and danger in South Africa | The Uber Files

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And just about any major city in the US. First time I saw somebody get shot was driving for Uber Eats. Accepted the ticket, saw the part of town the customer lived in, and immediately had a bad feeling. Sure enough, I'm getting off of the highway and going down the service road when I hear shots ring out and look to my left to see a man falling over holding his gut in an alleyway by a game room. Can't tell you how many times I pulled up to an apartment complex and had to maneuver around less-than-savory characters loitering on the apartment steps. Needless to say, I didn't heed the no firearms policy they set for their drivers. Not getting shot dropping off tacos. No sir.

[@magigooter2096]

@@Knight_Horus I did. I was driving for Uber Eats at the start of the pandemic because I was working in a food distribution warehouse. Restaurants closed. Food orders stopped coming in and you know what came next. So, I did it just until I got back to work in machining. Thanks for your input though!

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@@magigooter2096 you perform a service for which someone pays you…… that’s a real job Make your money

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Just don't deliver to blax and you've cut your chances of death in half, at least.

[@glenclarkchidley3637]

The Uber concept was genius. Sadly The Company only cares about their profits. Employees should never be responsible for all the risk!

[@generaleerelativity9524]

Straight up GREED! You can tell the people who run it got where they are through straight up nepotism. There's absolutely no reason for them to be entitled to over half of the fare when employees are using their own vehicles and fuel. Even if they only took 20%(or less) they would have more workers and still make bank. They ain't nothing but a greedy hack cab company and they deserve everything that's coming to them. I couldn't stand them from the door, so you could imagine my disgust when they started using Trevor Noah in their ads.

[@dunhillsupramk3]

i remember watching a documentary on the south Africa taxi unions, taxi drives would get shot and killed if they was operating their taxi outside of their agreed upon route then there was the white only union... these guys put a huge target on their back OR Uber will finally get rid of the taxi unions and the grip they have on south Africa..

[@bill9989]

Uber is like so many woke faux virtue companies. They rush to condemn their drivers, and excuse atrocious behavior of riders. I'm seldom in favor of unionization but this is one industry that begs it. Drivers should not accept any assignment they don't feel comfortable about. Don't service any ares they personally deem dangerous and don't allow Uber to pressure or shame you. Your safety is paramount to you and your family.

[@junme1389]

If you don't like it, move on. Get your liberal union bullshit out of here dummy.

[@generaleerelativity9524]

Yeah, everything you just said has already been done. It's called a TAXI service. 😁

[@KH-mf1sq]

The same thing occurred in Puerto Rico with the cash payment option. Carjackers exploited that as an easier way to open accounts, order rides, and then rob the drivers. It took the threat of a bill (to prohibit cash payments) in the Senate for the company to allow drivers to turn off that option, which is the preference the carjackers.

[@CaptTeamwork]

So South Africa's violence problem is Uber's fault?

[@retired4365]

and yet the business model only helps the company. gullible people outnumber the smart people. at least with cabs, they were regulated and unionized to help the driver make ends meet. 😂😂

[@BGraves]

And cab drivers pay a daily leasing fee which allows them to actually see the cost of doing business on a daily basis whereas most Uber drivers are borrowing from their financial future to make ends meet at the moment. Like a high interest loan

[@TomByron-h7s]

I woulnt live in South Africa if you paid me

[@LateNightRewrites]

We wuz kangz!

[@fatherofabyid7638]

Indeed is just shithole

[@john_savage]

Same in the US. It gets worse all the time for most drivers. The company takes more and gives fewer crumbs. Driver support is non-existent!

[@jorgemarin7303]

The company lobbies The politicians because they have the money

[@Isilosamabandla]

“South Africans love to talk” 😂😂😂

[@SarahRamsingh]

The ride share and delivery apps try to hook new drivers with incentives. People take these jobs due to lack of jobs and better schedules. As a consumer, I benefit greatly from Instacart and Lyft. But their workers are contracted and assume all the risk. Fuel, car maintenance, safety. Working outside the US in countries that are cash based with high crime only makes things worse. No matter where these companies take on work, they are taking advantage of the contracted worker.

[@현지호-o8r]

Not only in South Africa. It is happening every other country. Happening in U.S driving people to poverty.

[@susanfudge1737]

Sounds like South Africa is a dangerous place.

[@Idcwhatyouthink1234]

Also me in Texas . I love Uber

[@tinahickman6300]

These drivers can barely make money as it is. I haven't used Uber in a while but with Lyft the drivers get paid about 50% of what the rider pays! And if there is a surge time where I am charged more because there are fewer drivers or it's a busier time that extra money, which is sometimes like $20 more for the same ride I always take, does not go to the driver!!

[@paulb4940]

Thank you

[@mbdeza]

How is this Uber’s fault?

[@jorgemarin7303]

I’m sorry that your mind can’t wrap around your little head the poverty in South Africa and that Uber takes advantage of a improvised people to take cash in a country that has One of the highest crime rates in the world yeah Uber is innocent of everything poor people need job Like any working industry

[@blaynecarver2236]

Well it definitely can't be Black people's fault. Nothing is their fault. They are a perfect race and all of their problems are either because of white people or capitalism or something else that the left doesn't like.

[@mbdeza]

@@jorgemarin7303 little head? Which one are we talking about? 😉

[@alexgonzales8424]

Isn't that the same every where u make the money half goes on gas before u even start. Don't think taxi drivers are putting there own gas tires wear and tear etc.

[@bballplayer5555]

This is so dumb… if they aren’t making money driving for Uber they just shouldn’t drive for Uber… it’s not complicated. This more speaks to the fact that budgets are not being made and these individuals are not doing the math on the profitability of driving… this isn’t an Uber problem

[@TTOS69]

Hell I'm an Uber driver in north Carolina and I barely am making ends meet. Uber is the worst company in the world to work for. They don't care at all about their drivers. edit: I also am renting a car to drive for uber. I drive every night from 8pm to 4am and barely make enough to pay for the rental and gas. I have to do this bc I take car of my mother who had a stroke during the day time...

[@utarmandoenchicago]

This is stupid 100 % Uber has nothing to do with the country problems.

[@silindilemhlongo8208]

Nice

[@yamommahouseFolks]

How you let someone snatch you out of your car, put you in another and take you to a private location 🤔

[@suh-guy]

It's like a hijacking, where they block your car with their cars. Mind you there's way more of them than the Uber driver.

[@G-gnome]

First Dan Gertler, now this… how many times will they fall for it?

[@jonesy4588]

what about little africa ? other wise known as America

[@donsims1941]

Really they didn't know how to understand the benefits and drawbacks of a job before taking it? 🤦If they don't like it they are free to quit correct? No one is forcing them to work! How is this the company's fault! This is the problem of their citizens for not controlling their own crime.

[@hiphopanonymoushiphopa5553]

Atleast no one on uber was on the fbi list.*taxi drivers*

[@kalinderuvictor8357]

What do You think

[@scottball6431]

That's just messed up. Uber needs to do better than this

[@fernandolucero3988]

But nobody is forcing this people to drive/work for Uber it’s a choice why don’t people understand this

[@jorgemarin7303]

A lot of companies are not hiring older Americans and it takes a long time to get a job this is a job that helps you pay the bills right away

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[@rafaelperez2692]

Is Bezos shorting Uber or something similarly sinister? Why are these elaborate stories coming out for Uber suddenly this week? Smells like a plot from the media again.

[@orwellhuxley6301]

Surprised, are you? Uber’s biz model is a poster child for predatory capitalism. Squeeze the working poor and watch company valuation turn founders and exec into mega millionaires.

[@michaelscottland4239]

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[@cortlinjones9181]

Lmaoo

[@morecringe89]

Everybody that knows a little bit of what is going on south Africa, this is just another Monday.

[@LabeLincoln]

So you thought driving your personal vehicle hundreds of miles, every day, unsure of where you'd actually be going(potential bad areas of town) would be better than a "regular 9-5 job" where you drive to then park, and know where you'll be? Sounds like lazy people mad they somehow didn't get rich being an independent taxi.

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[@kalinderuvictor8357]

I Do Not want them .Who cares,

[@ankebram9247]

Thank Mandela for today’s disastrous of South Africa today

[@chatty2164]

You stole my comment. Whole country has gone to crap.

[@lindelwanothandongcobo8863]

😹😹😹 you loved apartheid 😹😹😹

[@southafricaismyhome814]

UBER. IS AMERICAN COMPANY GET OUT OF SOUTHAFRICA YOUR TIME IS OVER 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@johnblaze7197]

South Africa is a s*h*i*t hole

[@nostradamus7648]

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[@CHMichael]

South Africa - making apartheid look good.

[@nostradamus7648]

The only Good South African is a White Man that makes electric cars and space ships

[@aratay3117]

Why are you worried about uber when attacks on farmers and future shortages could cause more starvation in south Africa. Nice priorities man

[@BGraves]

Uber does their best to manipulate and gamify drivers into making poor financial decisions. In fact, we don't even know the destination until the passenger gets in the car. Coin toss if we are about to spend an hour driving back into town on our own dime. Reporter, make a fake Uber hat and badge and clipboard and I will take you around town for a day to show you how it really works

[@dem0nchild610]

I do the Uber eats and alot of times I have to order and wait 20 minutes for that order which they penalize me for. We were supposed to get more from the company to help with the gas costs but we never got anything back instead they started paying more to the electric vehicles as an incentive program

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[@claudeyaz]

This is why the taxi unions shouldn't have gone over board in the USA. It sucks not having pro drivers

[@benitosalazar3749]

It always boils down to unions making it harder for companies to be profitable. No wonder so much US industry has moved to China.

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LOL!!! tell me of one job that unions saved in modern times or any working conditions they improved?? unions do nothing but only protest when a certain political party tells them to for a donation, as an example: the steel and iron unions supported Biden in the last elections and now most ppl lost their jobs and they don't care... you don't even see them protesting..

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Uber was so good at the start. Then slowly deceased pay, took away bonuses, added fees, fake promos, no worker service center.

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[@ellesbells902]

How it always works. It's the "nature" of capitalism. Employees are just another commodity to corporations, just a number that gets crunched over the years

[@tinahickman6300]

Lyft has done the same thing!! I stopped using Uber and started using lift in my town because it was supposed to be a little safer and also they pay their drivers more of what I was paying. Now they don't get but half of what we are paying and meanwhile our rates have gone up!!

[@rideshareobserver1456]

@@tinahickman6300 I loathe Lyft even more than Uber and that's saying a lot!

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Uber drivers go through the same ordeal in Cancun Mexico

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Don’t like Uber or Lyft so I won’t use them I’m not against the employees but the company’s are predatory.

[@john_savage]

NYC has an employee-owned model I am interested in.

[@maninthebox01]

This is not ubers problem, if you chose to go into debt renting a car so you can drive Uber that's your problem.

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[@aamirparker135]

Uber drivers are also often targeted by traffic officers in Cape town and their cars get impounded ,because the department of transport wants drivers to have permits to operate,but they dont make permits available,drivers have been applying since uber started in SA and is still waiting,they have said that they will make permits available after 2023

[@mukhtarkhan3034]

That's crazy

[@danielgaynor4081]

Guns help

[@originata3748]

Wouldn't taxi drivers have the same risks? I'd imagine delivery truck drivers too. I'm not sure about the point of this video other than to complain about Uber.

[@LateNightRewrites]

It's WaPo's way. Rich liberal journalist elite, way out of touch with the average american, decides to do a hitpiece on a big corporation for daring to operate in parts of the world that are inherently unsafe

[@USFCpresident]

Well Uber is ran by a bunch of POS so I'm not sure about the point of this comments other than to complain about the backlash for Uber.

[@i2really1der]

“It’s better than no job” Yes it occurs in many countries not just South Africa

[@CHMichael]

Uber is not for the unemployed. Uber is a side job if you have your own car. ( uber cuts you off after 12 hours)

[@captng]

Ab5 in California has changed gig economy jobs forever.. Uber now is a full-time job for most of these fellas. Assembly Bill 5 made it impossible to be a side hustle. I mean yes now they're considered part-time workers or full-time workers they're no longer independent contractors

[@casadilla111]

You mean to tell me a major company’s super sketchy?! Nooooo! Next you’ll be saying the same thing about politicians! Can you imagine?!

[@peanutmansemporiumofrandom7472]

I’ve never used Uber or Lyft and I never will. If I’m in a situation where I need a ride, I’ll gladly pay for a taxi. I usually only use taxis in NYC when we’re visiting and using the train or walking will take too long.

[@lindelwanothandongcobo8863]

Sad for what happened to Timothy 😢 taxi drivers can be so dum and evil

[@dunhillsupramk3]

i remember watching a documentary on the south Africa taxi unions, taxi drives would get shot and killed if they was operating their taxi outside of their agreed upon route then there was the white only union... these guys put a huge target on their back OR Uber will finally get rid of the taxi unions and the grip they have on south Africa..

[@elsathedemonwolf1035]

How about Door dash??? There just as guilty, everyone knows it it’s time to expose them as well

[@lindaninjilo78]

Same experience in Durban. Worse here we're being extorted

[@lazyman2451]

No fcking way that true 1:46 🤣 family guy reference.

[@ismetkerqeli3006]

Never can make good wage with Uber car damage Gas…etc

[@Aromapablo]

This is why we have the right to own weapons like AR’s

[@LeeePowers]

To shoot employers you are unhappy with?

[@ravimahalay610]

No better life with uber at all

[@_CatBug_]

That's the problem with quick app jobs. It's not meant for full time. If you want a skill, do the jobs that actually require hard work.

[@jl1695]

Doesnt change the fact that what uber did was wrong stop defending a company just because people dont have any skills wtf is wrong with you

[@jorgemarin7303]

Yeah go to Uber and see how hard that job is then share your experience Walking someone’s shoe before you give us your little two cents opinion

[@signsofthetimes886]

I know people who have made alot of money doing "quick app jobs", more than "jobs that require hard work"

[@_CatBug_]

Lol I don't defend trash companies like that but it's a choice people make to make a quick buck. There are plenty of jobs that pay better or equal to Uber and build a better resume than "taxi" driver. The fact some people think driving people around is hard tells me everything I need to know about their work ethic. You're in a customer service based field and if it's too hard, then don't do those type of jobs. Why would someone stay in a bad relationship and complain?

[@kalinderuvictor8357]

By The Way. Who. Care

[@JustinDAMusic]

It's not just in Cape Town. I had a similar experience with taxi drivers just last week here in JHB.

[@Citymysticlux]

Ummm…. Cape Town is not the only place this happened. San Francisco was like the wild Wild West!!! Almost got jumped by a shuttle bus driver near SFO (as a single mom by a giant man), was run off the road by another shuttle bus driver in the actual SFO drop off area, was targeted by police with a car full of passengers, had my rental car towed off the street in the middle of a shift 90 miles away from my house at 11pm due to an error in their billing g department and had to stay in an Air Bnb they refused to compensate me for (and then had the car returned the very next day when they realized it was their own error), was treated like absolute trash by techies… give me a break. This is their world-wide modus operendi. Please stop protecting them.

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[@GodofPainBelial]

Damn, this is horrible. It's like the predatory truck leasing problem and the debt and in fighting between ride shares and taxis issue to the 10th degree.

[@larryj1685]

How ridiculous for Uber to place these folks in harms way by allowing them to have cash on them

[@tomhenry897]

With the current government in sa everything is at risk

[@generaleerelativity9524]

The answer that you get "it's better than actually WORKING!"

[@caramanico1]

DO NOT DRIVE RIDESHARE!! I had a guy wipe his a__ with his hand and leave a FECES HANDPRINT on the back of my driver's seat. DO NOT DRIVE RIDESHARE!!

[@jorgemarin7303]

I had a guy try to get in my car with his birthday suit so I know what you’re talking about

[@Chendoart]

"If there's anyone that can benefit from over priced, unprofessional perverts hooked on meth, it's Berkina Faso" 🤣🤣🤣 let them fix the apartheid problem first, buddy, then Uber

[@sisterbigbonezsridesharera2845]

Sad! I’m a former Uber driver in Florida. I cannot imagine being abused in such a manner!

[@southafricaismyhome814]

Same poor black Americans

[@wrenlinwhitelight3007]

Doesn't sound like Uber's fault necessarily. This type of business model cannot work if the general public is torn with crime. It feels to me like Uber can only operate in 1st world countries in places with low criminal behavior. 12 hours/day with all that risk,what a heart breaking nightmare.

[@danielshamu8890]

1st world countries 😂😂, what a bunch of HS that Europeans still believe

[@tech4life884]

Uber doesn't force anyone to work for them. It's a choice by the individual to work for Uber. The drivers also make there own schedule and work when they feel like it. What employer allows anything close to this that Uber allows?.

[@remainreva8683]

found the uber employee

[@jl1695]

When you say you can make up to 30 dollars an hour pretty sure thats a lie and uber like other companies wouldnt have drivers if they didnt lie , seems pretty forced to me when you lie, and yea you can make your own schedule but if your making 3 dollars an hour whats the point?

[@jorgemarin7303]

That’s the crap that they feed you in corporate America but Uber takes 50% of your money And a lot of companies don’t old hire older Americans so you gotta get what you can get please think hard before you give your opinion

[@Hat65]

@@jl1695 30/hr isn’t true. You have to factor in all the wear and tear if your car plus gas.

[@jl1695]

@@Hat65 yea i know , thats why i said when uber says up to 30 an hour, your making 3 dollars an hour anyways because most the time your just sitting in your car with no orders

[@moonpie2637]

Uber is in Chicago. One of the most dangerous cities in the world. I don't see anyone saying anything about it.

[@srsly.dnk1]

In Chicago ppl have bank accounts…they don’t do cash transactions.

[@rhrtyjgbtgfi9707]

Chicago isn’t South Africa

[@landon7045]

You sound so stupid.

[@moonpie2637]

@@srsly.dnk1 They also get killed at a higher statistical rate. Cash is not what they are jacking you for. Secondly, you think a pin code is going to stop them? How many stabs till you give up the pin?

[@moonpie2637]

@@rhrtyjgbtgfi9707 I know south Africa is safer.

[@ticktockyo2]

Bro I did this as a side hustle on my days off work and made $750+ in about 20 hours a week

[@rabbitsfoot8]

in South Africa?...its different there

[@cortlinjones9181]

Stop the cap.

[@SarahRamsingh]

It really depends on where you live, what time you drive, and how you accept rides. Once you factor in fuel, wear and tear on your car, and job and personal security the ride share or food delivery apps are not worth it even as a side job. I benefit on the consumer side but not contractor.

[@naszay8641]

So really you only made about 375 that week cuz half of that went to gas

[@ticktockyo2]

@@naszay8641 false I have a Tesla

[@straightnatural]

DoorDash started the cash for deliveries too!

[@TraditonalUSA]

South Africa huh? Who cares 🤔

[@jorgemarin7303]

That is such a racist comment thank God you’re nota poor South African

[@TraditonalUSA]

@@jorgemarin7303 Racist eh? Funny how you Jump to that, instead of the hundreds of other variable reasons one might not care about South Africa. You have been trained to see race, while claiming others are racist.

[@talulashippe]

@@jorgemarin7303 Sorry, but could you clarify which race in SA are they insulting? lmao, gtfo with your race card bullshit

[@jonbravo1984]

@@TraditonalUSA As a South African, I approve of this comment. 🙌🙌🏿🙌🏾🙌🏼🙌🏻