Watch 16 Beto O’Rourke And Ted Cruz Supporters Debate Each Other (HBO)

The Senate race between Ted Cruz and his challenger, Texas congressman Beto O’Rourke, has become a symbol of the battle over a state that Democrats have long wanted to turn blue. So when 16 Texas voters - half supporters of each candidate - came to face-to-face, it’s no surprise a national issue like immigration dominated the discussion.
During a VICE News panel convened by pollster Frank Luntz Friday in Dallas, participants talked about their impressions of the candidates and the issues animating the campaign. So far, O’Rourke has drawn a record fundraising haul and lots of media attention, but polling still shows GOP Sen. Cruz slightly ahead.
Cruz has attacked O’Rourke for proposing making so-called Dreamers American citizens, which Cruz says would put the interests of immigrants ahead of ordinary Texans. Cruz has said his own views on immigration boil down to four words: “legal, good - illegal, bad.” During their Sept. 21 debate, Cruz said the U.S. should do everything possible to secure the border, including building a wall.
On Friday, panelists supporting Cruz agreed. “There are sovereign countries that have laws. Obey those laws,” said John Percha III, a 49 year-old aircraft mechanic. “You can’t just walk in and do whatever you want.”
“America is like a lifeboat,” added Paul Lidberg, 52, a sales account manager and game designer. “And at a certain point if you bring everybody into the lifeboat, the lifeboat sinks.”
But O’Rourke supporters said that anger over the state of the immigration system is misdirected - and that immigrants themselves should not be blamed.
“I guarantee you, as a mother of two boys, that I would do everything illegal, legal - it doesn't matter what it is - to get my children into this country,” said Angie Byrnes, 47, the owner of a marketing consulting business.
Angelique Mayers, a 46 year-old customer service agent, proposed penalties for people who hire undocumented workers. “Why do we demonize the people that get lured here by business owners that have jobs waiting for them?” Mayers asked. “Why don't we do mandatory prison time for anybody that hires an illegal alien?”
Eight of the sixteen panelists had at least one parent born outside of the U.S. But that didn’t mean all panelists wanted to loosen immigration laws.
“Should there be a path to citizenship? I'm Hispanic, and I don't think so,” said Josue Gonzalez, a 32 year-old security contractor and Cruz supporter. “Maybe consider giving them status to stay here legally but not impact the voting, the platform for either Democrat or Republican.”
Julio Rios, 47, an unemployed Cruz supporter and the son of Uruguayan and Cuban immigrants, said that the country’s roughly 12 million undocumented immigrants should be put on a ten year work visa, with an annual fee of $1,000 to maintain the visa. The money, Rios said, should be used to fund a border wall. He called the plan a “modified path to citizenship.”
Asked to describe the candidates, supporters of Cruz called him principled and steadfast. Critics called Cruz smarmy - a word that Cruz’s supporters later used to describe O’Rourke, too, along with “socialist.” O’Rourke’s supporters called him compassionate.
Last week’s confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court also came up. Sophia Percha, a 48-year-old realtor and Cruz supporter, said the Democratic Party had hijacked the #MeToo movement and pursued Kavanaugh without proof.
Challenged by another panelist, Sophia Percha said she herself had survived abuse. “However, I would not blame this person sitting next to me that he did it because he looks like the type that did it,” Sophia Percha said.
One panelist said that the Kavanaugh hearings had ensured she’d vote Republican.
“Before the Kavanaugh thing, I probably wasn't going to vote. But this Kavanaugh thing is going to turn out a lot of people, because I think they did him totally wrong,” said Jennifer McCann, a 47-year-old customs broker who supports Cruz but often votes Democrat.
“If they did him wrong, they’re gonna make all of us wrong,” Percha added.
O'Rourke and Cruz will face off again Tuesday night in a televised debate.
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When 16 Texas voters - half supporters of each candidate - came to face-to-face, it’s no surprise a national issue like immigration dominated the discussion. WATCH NEXT: Ted Cruz Thinks He's Gonna Beat Beto - bit.ly/2yJ2IBz

[@TheNextTurn]

Frank Luntz will not mention the REAL reason that Texans will choose Beto over Ted. Its because Beto does not accept corporate campaign contributions. I understand why Frank Lutz conceals this BLATANT FACT ... but hey Vice News why do fail to mention this? Or you just love Franks Lutz Establishment bias?

[@manueltrevino4273]

VICE News why didn’t y’all ask the two major groups voting 18-25 and then the republicans

[@jackgray3267]

Wow no talk about climate change!!! Texas must not be on planet earth

[@vilecrocodile9171]

Why does Vice give some people mics and not the others.

[@69obaby]

VICE News Frank Lutz is not a non-partisan host and he loads the groups with people who support certain new ideology for conversations on specific right wing agenda topics.

[@supremeleader9440]

Path to citizenship " i disagree and I'm Hispanic, they should have a consequence" Did your parents come here legally? " Probably not" ...

[@thehomeplatespecial597]

Rob Parra he alluded to he doesnt want U.S. to be run like Mexico.

[@jay-t1030]

Rob Parra using his own party terminology, he is a ‘anchor baby’

[@efghytmartinez1323]

Rob Parra I say we deport his parents, since he supports to deport others. Then we’ll see if he’s sing the same song

[@edwin0404]

The Home Plate Special lol that’s not what he was saying at all

[@ntskl]

Doesn't make his argument any less valid.

[@plop4493]

Got the lower classes bickering and fighting with each other while the elite laugh on their yachts.

[@robertflores2689]

Different Parties by day chillin at the same party at night

[@Elitistb616]

It's interesting how conservative media likes to attach the label "elite" to artists and scientists and try to blame all the world's problems on them. "We have to stand up to these experts." - Proud of their ignorance.

[@filipinoartproject9863]

exactly!!!

[@riseagan]

elite means different things to each party.... To the Democrats, it's "rich people", to the republicans it's "smart people".

[@riseagan]

Certainly don't disagree with you there.

[@TheChardluz]

Lol on the Mexican republican.... he got nervous a bit and thought... hmmmm I think I’ve said too much...

[@darrylflinch5274]

hahaha... he like damn they may deport me now. I blew my cover!

[@bridgettedenise]

They might deport my parents

[@darrylflinch5274]

@@bridgettedenise if his parents came in illegally then I would support them getting US Citizenship. But we should just kick him out of the country for being stupid.

[@TheChardluz]

Franky Salazar and what makes you think I'm liberal you punyeta. Look it up.

[@darrylflinch5274]

@Franky Salazar You must have gotten confused by his last name and actually thought he was for you. LMAO. BTW the Trump's 14% Corporate tax cut wasn't for you. It was for the WEALTHY!!! The 1.5 TRILLION deficit we have now was because Trump gave a 14% tax cut to the WEALTHY!!! Just wait till Trump decides to cut social security and health care to pay for the deficit! POOR morons that voted for him will PAY HEAVILY!!!

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

Left or Right there is one thing you can't deny: Any Texan man would NEVER allow another man to call his wife a "dog" or, at the very least, allow that person to disrespect his family and still support them.

[@Sanchez.Basado]

Texans portray themselves as these big strong people, when theyre just dogs, all bark no bite. They’re ruled by incompetent leaders, and big business

[@frednotgeorge]

That Latino guy was shook when asked about his parents status when they came into this country. Does he not realize that his parents did the same what any other immigrant parent would have done to give their children a better life? Even if that means taking back breaking work in farms and construction?

[@androidunderground40]

I know right. Republicans act like the country doesn't benefit at all from illegal Mexican migrans. I would love to see u.s natural born citizens go fruit picking in California only to earn shit wages for back breaking work.

[@jearmeymorgan8297]

@@androidunderground40 the difference is that if we didn't have goddamn criminals picking the fruit for "shit wages" then us "real Americans" could get the job and make a decent wage.

[@thehomeplatespecial597]

Jearmey Morgan most u.s. natives won't do work like that

[@DUSAbruddah]

And he stands by his decision say that it was wrong, even if it benefited him greatly. Rules is rules. There is poverty all over the world, they can't all just enter into the U.S. Look at how receptive Europe has been to the refugees.

[@frednotgeorge]

ALP7A rules are rules, but corporations don't seem to follow them when they lure migrant workers into the country to cut back on labor cost. if you are so concerned about rules maybe you should tell your GOP lawmakers to stop hiring migrant workers.

[@LilySkye]

The Latino guy almost malfunctioned when he realized his parents probably aren’t in the US legally

[@jessierolan]

He didn't have a FoxNews talking point for that one.

[@YourMeadIsNasty]

I know him and yes his parents worked to get their legal status now.

[@shiwalogo2]

HAHHAAHAH too funny

[@jessierolan]

@@YourMeadIsNasty So it's OK for his parents to come over illegally for a better future for their son, but it's wrong for others to do the same, even if they're fleeing a war zone and applying for legal asylum. Gotcha.

[@markwatney8641]

He was probably "told" he was born in the US, but its probably not true or his documents are forged. He can't be sure since he can't remember being born and his knowledge of it is 2nd hand, its just hearsay.

[@tlou1169]

This was a horrible debate on both sides!

[@harrue]

I say Jim Jeffereis skit on atheism is a perfect analogy of what the world is.

[@Killopotamus]

The Beto supporters have charged language just like the Cruz supporters, but each person in there seems to have their own uneducated idea about the wall or Cruz. No one argued against their points about his lack of effectiveness or pursuing legislation as a senator. The Cruz supporters are right in that immigration is not some easy fix, and maybe the Beto supporters are too willing to accept immigrants as if there are no consequences. They even seem to disagree about if there should be immigration legally. The issue is overall the Beto supporters are not 100% on point and do get personal about Cruz, but they are looking at Cruz's record objectively as well. No Cruz supporter brought up Beto's policies. No Cruz supporter has looked at what Beto has done as a House rep. Its on Beto to prove worth to the people, but the people won't look at his history, and Cruz can sit comfortably because he has been in the seat and is a comfortable preservation of the status quo for Texans.

[@harrue]

@@Killopotamus Nicely put

[@MixtapeKilla2004]

I agree.

[@ohsweatbret]

It’s not a debate, it’s a focus group. The point isn’t to win, it’s to measure public support for different policies. This is quite literally the problem with American politics, we talk about which side is winning not which side has the best solutions.

[@superapple4ever]

Where are the young people?

[@TCSyndicate]

young people know best amirite.

[@3TYKX]

@@dylanryanmoore You are young enough to live till you see the truth. You'll come around.

[@billmase2458]

IN SCHOOL

[@joshuas637]

@@3TYKX Lol thats funny because people think of young people as acting through there emotions but you say he'll start doing that when hes older.

[@3TYKX]

@@dylanryanmoore Oh yeah. Have fun with him.

[@biggzcorey]

That guy's parents came here illegaly and he is an "anchor baby" , who is he trying to fool?

[@tafftastic]

The Big C I’m pretty sure that he’s Ted Cruz’ Mexican twin.

[@angelocarr3698]

It was interesting to hear that considering that by his ideals he’d have easily been a Mexican and not an American had his parents not come here illegally. Sounds kinda contradictory.

[@fakeascanbe423]

@Serene Sounds like he was the one saying he shouldn't have a vote and shouldn't have had a voice in this conversation.

[@biggzcorey]

@Serene What the hell are you talking about? I don't like the guy because he was hypocritical and disengenous. He knows his parents came here illegally and that he is only a citizen because of the 14th amendment (anchor baby). He has no problem denying others an oppurtunity that his parents were given. Just for the record I'm in Texas and I'm voting for Beto and my views on immigration are nuanced and don't really fit into either political party.

[@Glartok]

I'd bet money he is a republican plant for this show. One of those paid actors they like to talk so much about when they can't stand on a moral ground to oppose democrats.

[@mayanair5077]

I was in this video and good chunks of the discussion have been edited out. Not even half of the shockingly offensive and alarming comments the Cruz supporters said are in this, but if you hope for a better future and want to protect the rights of underrepresented groups, please vote for Beto in the Texas midterms! Every vote counts.

[@wheatandtares9764]

Maya Nair "offensive". Sure. To you guys even "build the wall" and stating legal terms like "illegal alien" is offensive...

[@hectorgarza8540]

Then maybe those mojados should go back to mexico. Why dont you protest against the cartels that actually abuse the illegals? 🤣

[@hectorgarza8540]

@shurednichso i wouldnt have had kids if i was poor. The cartels have been in a war for years now plus everyone already knows the government is dirty. All those college kids got killed for being stupid, which isnt a surprise since their parents didnt teach them common sense. Being stuipd isnt a excuse to break our laws. 🤣

[@cosmicdust3881]

Voting for Beto, and so all my family, neighbors, and friends.

[@saphired02]

hector garza you just said they should protest and now your saying they were stupid for protesting. Yea blame the victim. Would you blame your child for being murdered while trying to make your country a better place?

[@keelo44]

4:46 I loved how they zoomed in on the cowboy boots as this man talks about immigration visas 😂.

[@michaelh4227]

Would love to see the Hispanic guy's reaction when his family gets deported due to GOP policies. Technically if the 14th amendment gets abolished, then he'll get deported too as an "anchor baby".

[@ab9840]

Chances are if they did manage to do that that it would not be retroactive.

[@vyctordraco948]

Michael H Seeing as how the 14th amendment has nothing to do with illegal immigrants, it would not be required to be repealed.Please stop talking about the law if you have no real knowledge of it. Court proceedings take into account the laws at the time of the alleged crime and therefore the law that was current at the time of his parents entering the county would be the law the case would be determined by. In other words to let you understand what I am saying, if they suddenly made it illegal to eat candy on Halloween it would only be illegal for folks to do it after the law was enacted, it would not be used to imprison everyone before then. Is that something that equates to your level of intelligence? IF not try this, if the legal age of consent goes up to 25, the court can only convict those after the change in law for being with someone underage. It could not be used to criminalize those already having dated or marrying someone below 25 before the law came to be.

[@brandoncrabtree6632]

Then how can they take rifles away from people who bought them when they were legal after passing gun reform?

[@brandoncrabtree6632]

Define fake news

[@brandoncrabtree6632]

My comment??

[@PhuutThaiMaiDai]

The Hispanic kid who was born in Texas but parents were “probably” illegal is a great example of a self-loathing Latino. Reaps benefits of parents breaking the law but won’t empathize with other parents doing the same for their kids. Ugh

[@BookofFuture]

Renee Ariesen most Americans come from immigrants but many loathe recent immigrants. Similarly a lot of rich families hate “welfare” but their ancestors would’ve starved or suffered poverty without it.

[@likeminas]

It's pathetic. They think that if they suck up to the conservative hardliners they might have a chance at being accepted as one of them. They're not fooling anyone but themselves

[@riceburnerbiker1483]

Renee Ariesen remember what it doesn’t say on the lady of the harbors tablets. Kick out those in need! The chains of oppression are dictators and religions. Which are also dictatorships. Keep religion and reality separate. When you prove there’s a magical white dude...then we bow down! But we don’t bow to a mortal. We killed the last two religions that tried to end democracy. We will need to again if the blue wave fails to show!

[@mrvideogame007]

Renee Ariesen He is what Mexicans consider a "Malinche"

[@peopleschampgarage7869]

Josue Gonzalez SL Protective Security Specialist at Triple Canopy (A Constellis Company)Dallas/Fort Worth Area doxx his mom, get her deported.

[@laleau92]

The interviewers question about raising money is dishonest. Beto and Cruz do not raise money in the same way. One raises corporate money and the other doesn’t.

[@JaneDoe-bj7qx]

W Meito BETO has received donations from foreign donors.. This is illegal. Also Soros is envolved with Betos donations. Vote red for Ted

[@sabin97]

+jane do you have any evidence of beto taking donations from foreign donors? if you do, then it is your civil duty to report him to the proper authorities so he can be jailed, because that's illegal. if you have no evidence, then you're just talking shit for the sake of talking shit. so, when did you notify the authorities? and what do you like about rafael "lying ted" cruz?

[@carpetgobblin4290]

No, they just say "Soros" and instantly trigger the rest of the hive mind who read it. Instant credibility for them.

[@alang9549]

Carpet Gobblin I’ve seen that quite a bit. They have no clue that Soros also donated to Ted Cruz. I think he only donated $200 more to Beto then Cruz.

[@alexpfs1]

How are you going to die for voting for ted lmfao

[@GlumoTV458]

Massive respect to the Republican strategist who remained impartial throughout the course of the video

[@gregdurant5374]

It turns out he was on Ted Cruz’s payroll

[@thomasbuker8746]

Be careful what u say and research what Frank has done…. U would be disgusted

[@Locsmth]

Negro was (and in some cases still is) also a term used in the language that constructed laws. I doubt a lot of their asses walk down the street using that term openly. 😂

[@dunoa1141]

wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the mental gymnastics I just witness is insane

[@jpw35]

Agreed.

[@Alan-wj5zc]

How strange is it that Hispanic dude is ashamed his parent's broke the law to save his future, and that very boy is trying so hard to assimilate and destroy those very people.

[@elshowdeantony]

DEADASS that hispanic dude is not uninvited to the barbecue. The Hispanic barbecue.

[@Alan-wj5zc]

and I doubt he's even invited to white barbecues. He regurgitates right wing talking points I can read line by line from Fox News speakers.

[@JohnJTMack]

I'm down with showing everything unedited. We were there for almost 3 hours.

[@crunchysauce]

What was up with the 2 cuts at the beginning, where they cut two people's answers for "Describe Beto/Cruz in one word"?

[@horsepanther]

It would be great to see the unedited discussion

[@el_padron_1795]

2:32 Wait until the woman in the back responds with the dumbest question of the century!!!!!!

[@GIGATRON11]

AND NO ONE EVEN BLINKED?? or said something about it? they just dropped it

[@ciaranroche6092]

Your a legend

[@TheTieDyeBohemain]

The facts are 80% of the people here illegally came here legally on work visas and never left.

[@zinov3]

As far as the documented illegals go, I'd agree with your comment..

[@betterbuckets3619]

That means that expensive border wall will do jack shit to fix immigration. If you want to fix immigration you have to go after employers for hiring illegal immigrants. Its cheaper and more effective.

[@zinov3]

@@betterbuckets3619 The OP is referring to documented illegals who overstay their visas.. the truth is we don't know how many undocumented illegals are here.. so the "overstaying of visas" argument is invalid.. a barrier will keep out the majority of undocumented illegals.. sure, some may find an alternative way to get in.. but it will slow the rate at which they come here, and we will continue to safeguard against their alternative ways as time goes on.. again, it will slow the rate.. nothing is 100%.. but even if its 25% a wall would be worth it over time..

[@FreightFright]

@@zinov3 Also worth mentioning: those 525,000 "tried" but did not necessarily succeed. So you could argue that some were so successful they wouldn't be accounted for by DHS but as is that 525,000 is an overestimation since obviously not 100% of those who "try" to cross actually succeed in doing so. Also worth mentioning: 1.6% of Mexicans overstayed their 1 year visa but look at Canada - 1.0%! Seems to me that once again its only an issue because you've got brown people on one side but white people on the other. I'm Canadian and my people aren't fleeing a raging drug war that was in essence started by America and is maintained by America, nor are they fleeing the destruction of agrarian businesses and rising unemployment due to NAFTA. So what's the real problem here?

[@zinov3]

@@FreightFright if you said that America has done some shitty things in other countries, i'd agree with you.. however, when the majority of Americans don't agree with things such as supplying the drug cartels, we can not be held responsible.. if you asked Americans if they supported bombing innocent women and children in Syria, under Obama, i'm pretty sure that the vast majority would tell you that is wrong.. so i'm not exactly sure of the point of your comment..bad people do bad things? ok, we already know this..

[@mannysikario]

Remember this folks, Ted Cruz accepts corporate money and has supported giving tax breaks to billionaires and huge companies.

[@RussSFA]

And Beto takes the Hollywood money.

[@xavierthevoid]

@@RussSFA private citizens aren't corporations and corporations aren't people

[@wheatandtares9764]

Manny EHC and giving tax breaks to normal citizens, small businesses and helping the american economy overall. People like you think the highest corporate tax rate in the world is going to make a country "rich". Trump took the brakes off.

[@Elitistb616]

What tax breaks to normal citizens? That giant tax break bill gave virtually nothing back to the vast majority of Americans, and most companies just used it for stock buybacks to enrich their boards and dividend shareholders. If your company doesn't make tens to hundreds of millions minimum, you barely got anything. We have the highest marginal corporate tax rate in the world. Small businesses don't pay anywhere close to that, and due to all the loopholes that lobbyists insist on, the largest ones pay even less. What America has for a corporate tax rate doesn't matter when most of the profits are squirreled away overseas. Meanwhile, back in the 50s and 60s, the corporate tax rate was almost double what it currently is, and the top marginal personal tax rate was around 60-70 percent. And the economy boomed well after the wars. Tax breaks need to go to where the majority of economic activity is, and that is for the bottom 70% of wage earners, and the amount of the break should always decrease proportionally as the person gets wealthier. Rich people are already doing fine, no reason to make things easier for them.

[@hectorgarza8540]

So your mad that those companies are smarter than you? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ropro9817]

Lol, figures that the disgruntled unemployed dude would be anti-immigration

[@thehomeplatespecial597]

ro pro not the norm

[@PMRoanhouse]

with how he presented himself and his demeanor there might be some antisocial reasons and potentially hostile work environment reason why he is unemployed.

[@AroundTheBest]

And? Should he not be allowed to have a voice? Nah let's belittle him online. What a compassionate person...

[@JohnJTMack]

I was in the group, and that guy told us he was a small business owner that brought his company from Louisiana to Texas. So now I have even less respect for the guy than when I was debating him since he lied.

[@The_yeffy1]

Seems a little too well dressed and accessorized to be unemployed he probably is between jobs

[@robertmorris8997]

I would be curious to see what was cut out. There are a LOT of cuts in this.

[@shonthebonbon]

2:35 Lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo I can't breathe and the way everybody ignored her and didn't even bother to pay attention to what she said woowwwwww

[@cherryblackblossoms]

"Im Hispanic and i dont want them here" And then he doesnt know if his parents are here legally. Which is fine i think its very apparent how the fortunate seems to think life is so one dimensional.

[@JamesBen937]

Ironically if we use his politics beliefs then by default he should have been removed from his parents,put into a prision camp as his parents are deported. He would be nowhere near where he is in his life if he actually was subjected to what he advoctes

[@cherryblackblossoms]

@@JamesBen937 exactly, its one of those "i dont care cause its not happening to me" cases. Im sure if ice were to show up on his parents doorstep and wrestle his father and mother to the group to deport them he'd have a different opinion.

[@StevenSanchezWelding]

The irony.

[@Textbook000]

You’re right. Those that are fortunate think life is one directional. It truly unfortunate

[@GmoneyMozart]

shain sanchez well that’s an honest admission to recognize wrong is wrong.

[@diegovalles7048]

That Mexican’s logic is you use the rope to climb to the top and once you are there you cut the rope 🙄

[@MyLife-sq9ll]

Wow. Damn you're fine 😘😘

[@diegovalles7048]

Thanks 😅

[@jasond3270]

Diego, it is so true, this is why Mexico is the way it is, and why Mexicans here in the USA are always taken for fools.

[@jacencade4019]

Is yours to use mexican as an insult and then make an absurd straw man? I see how republicans love this up your ads logic Your still 80 jackasses

[@JokerL1000]

Facts

[@eddevlin72]

Living in Boston you forget about the crazies in the middle of the country

[@chunktruffleshuffle1606]

"our American children". Regardless of how or why that child is here, legally or illegally, We As Americans are not going to tell a child we're not going to feed you because your parents didn't take a test and earned the right to be called an actual citizen.

[@vyctordraco948]

I will, to his face, with mommy and daddy standing beside him. Ill even use the money I would have used for food, to hire a translator so I know they understand me. That way next time they wont start their life in their new country with breaking a law.

[@Laracroft19986]

The blond lady in the front has more compassion for Hispanics than the Mexican guy... wow

[@Social_Pugatory]

Indie Rivers Ain’t that some SHIT?! 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@rsw552]

Indie Rivers -- She spoke for a lot Americans, so did the attorney to the right of her.

[@stonewall5792]

Because the Mexican guy understands the law and loves America, sorry kiddo.

[@garetclaborn]

if you had compassion for south americans, central americans and mexican you would be for very strong borders. you have no idea the amount of death caused by our weakness

[@garetclaborn]

yollam that is truly a good question lol

[@jordancurlee9104]

This just proves younger people are better at debating with eachother than older people.

[@santiagogarzon5312]

As soon as you say Beto is evil or a socialist you've lost your argument. If you've ever actually met Beto you'll know that he's an extremely respectable man that will welcome anybody with open arms.

[@graciec.9803]

This is only productive if you have a fact checker in the room. Otherwise it's just angry pretendland

[@kedaariyer4887]

Gracie C. Great idea

[@bighands69]

+Gracie C. What the hell is a fact checker. And how do you fact check peoples opinion.

[@swantje7305]

lmao a fact checker is a fact checker! The explanation is in the name! A person who checks the alleged facts and statistics and studies that the group throws around! Someone who makes sure to fact check their arguments not their opinions. You build yourself an opinion upon facts, but if the facts are wrong then you're just spreading bullshit that doesn't help.

[@episdosas9949]

Exactly.

[@TheSwexican]

Swantje Pia shhh! The Russian spy’s might see this!

[@stinkyboomboom]

I would like to see the unedited version of this.

[@duancoviero9759]

The unedited version would be crazy!

[@MeowthGamer19]

stinkyboomboom it would be: “Beto is a liberal soyboy who wants open borders and welfare” “Cruz is a child molester and the zodiac killer” and “Beto is a socialist democrat who hates America and wants open borders.

[@mrkrvn61]

@@MeowthGamer19 it's like you were there!

[@MeowthGamer19]

Merkin Fluff that’s how unhinged republicans and democrats are nowadays.

[@loganbrion1469]

I wish that when he asked for one word to describe Ted Cruz, someone would have said “zodiac”.

[@starofthehighestpowers9837]

I want to hear more from young people.

[@jay-t1030]

Building a wall on the Mexico border is financially and physically idiotic.

[@correctionguy7632]

why?

[@3Demon100]

@@correctionguy7632 1. Corporations will have multiple ways to get immigrants into the country for cheap labor. 2. Majority of crimes are done by US citizens so it won't reduce crime. 3. Doesn't address the millions living here already. 4. There is not a feasible way that Trump has described that won't involve tax dollars.

[@MrHandss]

if the boat springs a leak, might as well not patch it since some water is still inside and some more might trickle in.

[@fleiva30]

will never happen.. too much money and it will be a waste!!

[@taylorlatch2635]

Yeah the border is too long for a wall to have any effectiveness. They can better wall the hotspot areas though which is what’s likely to happen.

[@8ballsix27]

so many self-hating latinos in texas

[@brandomedina3392]

thehomiealan it's what happens when you're surrounded by people who don't like you (or your people/group/origin). You grow up having ideologies that reflect self hatred, cultured by the environment arround you.

[@hectorgarza8540]

So following the laws is self hating? 🤣

[@theadjuster6760]

So true and thats why mexico, central america, and south America can't get thier shit together so people don't have to leave there country.

[@analazcano6475]

hector garza These people are so famn stupid, actually we latinos that support this country are respectful educated not LIKE them illegally here, i feel bad for the good people, but they criminals doing crimes in this country are not welcome, but thats how i feel

[@Textbook000]

hevquip A person can identify as an American all they want but It doesn’t mean that they will be perceived as an American. Unfortunately most people don’t see brown and indigenous features and think American. That’s just how it is. Most of the time brown and indigenous features is perceived and illegal, immigrant, legal immigrant, or in some cases an “anchor.” The Hispanic guy in this video is most likely an “anchor baby.” A lot of people don’t even perceive that as being a true American.

[@gravital2257]

Cant we get the full interview ?

[@bonnieblue9885]

You notice the Beto supporters don't have Texas accents...

[@kevinhoang9074]

That Hispanic guy is so brainwashed he doesn’t realize he’s part of the problem hahaha

[@garetclaborn]

liberals always have to attack the person that doesn't fit their narrative

[@willorellana2868]

Adam Alkhafaji that Hispanic guy is literally the biggest idiot

[@JM-wj1yv]

Adam Alkhafaji the problem? He seems like he knows what’s up with the country he calls home. He can disagree with what his parents did. Can disagree with what plenty people have done

[@kevinhoang9074]

Jason u can have different views but his views literally go against his own story and by his logic his parents are criminals I find it odd he can’t relate to the struggle his people are faced with

[@JM-wj1yv]

Adam Alkhafaji I can say my uncle is a criminal....he can say his family is....it’s not a struggle it’s the law. If you don’t like that....stay in Mexico. That’s why Mexico is where it is because LAW is not held up. Tell me I’m wrong.

[@mrbroeders]

That woman at the end - I knew EXACTLY what she was going to say. Brett Kavanaugh was badly treated so more people will vote - because Fox News told me...

[@Social_Pugatory]

She is going to go into the voting booth as a “Got You” to Democrats! 😂 Punching Numbers hella aggressively like “THIS IS FOR WHAT YOU DID TO KAVANAUGH!!” 😡...😂🤣🤣

[@erickvillagrana1699]

No!!! Because i saw Firsthand. Not Fox News. I saw myself he was Treated Horribly

[@garetclaborn]

CSPAN was plenty to realize two-door ford was a lying proto-thot

[@jchess78]

fox has nothing to do with it...people were pissed when tehy realized while watching hearing that Dr Ford was lying on Kavanaugh and it was ,most likely a plot by the Dems to derail him. Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles can see that lol

[@123contact4]

Nichole Broeders well said. He is just ignorant and brainwashed by MSM

[@EpicAdrian3D]

I love that one cut in shot of that cowboy boot. Absolutely savage.

[@Bingusdingus352]

The sauce 2:45:

[@victor210vital2]

That Hispanic straight lying he don't know if his parents are illegal

[@seanr8809]

That dude is all mixed up. Do you think he realizes that the people he shares an opinion with would call him an anchor baby?... He is a great example of a hypocrite

[@carmine_black]

That hispanic dude is a shame to Mexico and this country.

[@thomasrusaw2205]

Most undocumented people in the US get in on a temporary work visa and just stay in the country. Major companies are happy to allow this because it allows them pay very low wages and the government still grants these companies major subsidies. If you want to stop illegal immigration, be stricter on the temporary work visa and heavily fine companies that hire undocumented workers. The wall will not fix that.

[@sarfaraz.hosseini]

hesh 74, How does someone not know if their parents are legal, unless they're estranged. He's an appalling liar and hypocrite.

[@ericlara2865]

Carmine Black Maybe a shame to the government but not the country. I’m Mexican and I stand with him. Educate yourself blanca

[@auxyray]

As a Texan this video makes me sick to my stomach. Politics in Texas is not about the issues and this video just goes to show that. The public on both sides is too uneducated for such considerations. Rather, politics tends to be about bluster and posturing. You vote for a particular politician because he or she has the sort of image you like to portray not because of the substance of his or her campaign platform. It's the worst kind of tribalism.

[@onomatopoeia162003]

As a Minnesotan here. Out of all the voters in this country. What % of people know what policy they support. Instead of just what they say when they campaign. lol It's probably a small number.

[@kmasse81]

It's a 7 min video edited down from 3 hours, keep that in mind. You didn't think this 7 minutes was the entire discussion, did you?

[@onomatopoeia162003]

yup. Mutton

[@miguelzavaleta1911]

Honestly, it's probably a microcosm of the country itself. I don't think this problem is limited to Texas. I don't know how they picked these highlights, but if it's at all reflective of the whole discussion, most of these people only knew the soundbites and tweet-sized talking points. Don't wanna get too controversial here, but that's probably a big reason why Trump is in office right now -- he's excellent at these kind of empty quips.

[@auxyray]

Good point. I hope you're right and the problem lies with whoever edited this video.

[@pancakesoup1853]

Love the camera fix on the snake skin boots lmao

[@JLO145]

Where’s the rest of the show? Feels like there’s a lot left out.

[@rickiex]

I like how all the republicans who voted for Trump bc "he's different" "speaks out his mind" and "honest" would rather vote for Ted Cruz who has non of those lmao, quite the exact opposite

[@AroundTheBest]

I like how Democrats advocate for the right to murder your unborn baby and had no problem with the lack of evidence against Kavanaugh when accusing him of horrible crimes.

[@AroundTheBest]

Democrats were 100% ok with a "guilty until proven innocent" approach to Kavanaugh. Everyone knew that Trump is prone to wild exaggerations and the media calls him out on it. By comparison CNN reports that Elizabeth Warren being 1/1024th Native American means that she wasn't taking advantage of Affirmative Action programs.

[@AroundTheBest]

I didn't vote for Trump, I voted against democrats. Democrats don't offer me anything except higher taxes and more inflation. You'd have to be a sociopath to want mothers to be legally allowed to murder their own unborn children.

[@rickiex]

@P C ok dude. we get it, you're a half-ling lonely individual coop-ed up in your middle class american parents basement who doesnt have any source of a social life other than to troll people online to get attention whos parents are probably democrats/liberal and rather nice people but due to lack of attention have drove you into the rabbit hole of the GOP to act out and lash at your parents to give you the attention you were robbed.

[@andrewbroussard3664]

P C what if a women is raped, she has to take care of a baby she was forced to have?

[@sarahmccoy1941]

Donald Trump calls him Lyin’ Ted Cruz.

[@evanmoskovoy6072]

You can’t just cut there. :D Is there a full video?

[@theratinaCage]

These people answer those questions but can’t say why they answer that way. Lmao.

[@TheHavnmonkey]

THE IMMIGRATION PROBLEM IS THIS: People want (almost to the verge of need) to come to the US for jobs; BUT they cannot do so legally because the entrance exam into this country is virtually impossible for them to get a chance to even take. Too many Americans argue about this issue without even knowing the pre-requisites to enter this country legally. Most foreign citizens cannot walk up to the border or US embassy and put their name on a list. Even if they can, the wait on this list can 7-10 years!

[@hanatim2]

Nah took 26 years for my family to get approval to immigrate here!

[@SilverCanary1]

Haven Skye I heard the waiting list for Asian Indian applicants is closer to 20 years as the numbers allowed are so low, the waiting list is that long...

[@duancoviero9759]

You nailed it Bro, but the truth is not sexy amongst those who argue about this stuff.

[@jacoblee9455]

@Well Drive Uneducated people from 3rd world countries built this country lol.... Furthermore yeah we do, who do you think picks all the crops that can't be automated? I'll give you a guess it isn't U.S. citizens.

[@jacoblee9455]

@Well Drive Well Drive The health and literacy restrictions started in 1882/1917(During WW1) respectively and the exclusion act was also from 1882. This all just happened to be after building the transcontinental railroads, the gold rush, the industrial revolution done by you guessed it uneducated/unskilled labor. Where did I say I was advocating for labor violations? I just stated reality for what it is, and what the farmers who have tried to hire U.S. citizens for more then minimum wage and offered benefits have said about America citizens wanting to do the work(they don't). So if an American doesn't want to do the work for above minimum wage, what option is left but to turn to illegals who will do the work so the farm can make it another year in business?

[@PapiCthulu2]

We walked into vietnam, iraq, columbia, afghanistan, and many others and did what we pleased. Worst than any immigrant has done. "When you own a big chunk of the bloody third world The babies just come with the scenery."

[@dsaenz5008]

That was dark but it sadly painted the picture pretty accurately.

[@Skyler_Momoko]

2:35 haha omg that reach from the lady in the back!!

[@themochileros7520]

Dang at the end that guy was shook. "Did your parents come here illegaly?" Wowoowow... he didnt know😂😂😂

[@JusdoinstuF]

this is interesting content, do more and extend it longer.

[@krusher74]

This should be 20/30 mins and with some conclusion , they end so abruptly

[@lilguava70]

@shurednichso to get you to watch the full-length episode that this came from. It aired last night

[@initiald22]

That mexican guy would deport his parents in a heart beat. Parents must be so proud of him.

[@StoneE4]

He seems like the typical Republican who operates under the motto of, "I got mine and screw you if you want yours." I'll bet he's more than willing to allow his illegal alien parents to stay in this country, but those illegal aliens across the street? Send them packing.

[@TheJulior1983]

Lol what’s with the moderator’s hair.

[@blake..-]

Lol the 1k per year for a visa to pay for the wall was the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard 😂

[@x..x141]

His parents were immigrants and he’s talking about how he has that view point because he was “born in this great country” but I think he forgets he wouldn’t be here without his possible illegal immigrant parents coming here first, funny

[@kevinhoang9074]

Poor Kavanaugh ended up on the Supreme Court he was treated so unfairly

[@roddprime]

That's what scares me, she not voting on facts but what she feels was an injustice done to a man who still got the job. She doing a revenge vote. Blindly vote against the other side instead of looking at facts and track records of candidates. We are more divided than ever.

[@wandareeves9191]

They guy who says his parents probably came here illegally better watch it,he is not legal himself. He will be on their radar.smh

[@kevinhoang9074]

Lol he votes against ones own people and own interests it’s quite sad

[@jasond3270]

Are you for real? You are not an American, Russian TROLL! Stop pretending to be one.

[@monicawilson3734]

Love the sarcasm one love one vote for Beto

[@Ivolo89]

2:48 Got the same feeling!

[@busterwhite0]

Jesus Christ the Mexican guy might as well be labeled a spicy white 😂.

[@carloscruzarce9424]

We of the Mexican delegation would like to trade the Cara de Nopal for free

[@KelpShake98]

Carlos Cruz Arce LMFAOOOOO We can trade him for the nice white lady in the front. She’s invited to the carne asada 💀

[@crimsonking8942]

*LoL*

[@joeyquiroga3102]

@@KelpShake98 looks like you need to lay off the carne asada

[@user-oi6gr8xw9h]

That white lady can take her white ass to Mexico

[@d2cuadrados]

Lmfaooo

[@TruffulaSteve]

We’re so screwed here in TX.... as well as the rest of the country. We’re uneducated (un/underinformed) and highly dogmatic. That’s a bad combination. These people choose representatives based on party rather than character and it’s depressing. Too many folks feeding at the poison well of partisan media

[@cosmicdust3881]

Steven Mitchell agree

[@baneicorn7969]

Well, I may not have finished college, yet, but I'm still smart enough to know that Ted Cruz is a colony of insects in a dumpy human suit.

[@liblib89]

agreed, it is sad, Texas has a lot of potential but it is stymied in many abhorrent ways

[@taylorlatch2635]

Baneicorn ted cruz has actually shown he is a civil debater. He is ultra conservative but still every time I’ve seen someone scream in his face he takes it pretty smoothly. Beto is also a civil guy. Cruz just seems nastier as a person lol.

[@petersalvador3103]

Steven Mitchell u got it right Steve. The other problem u have in ur country is the electoral college. That’s not a true democracy. Should be one citizen one vote like all the other democratic countries end of story

[@StickySp00nz]

Then there's me... the Neil Dykeman supporter xD

[@ReichX1000]

"you go to other countries you can't just walk-in" Schengen area: *facepalm*

[@patcon314]

50/50 on the wall doesn't reflect America. This was 50/50 because that's how the group was designed.

[@Otter-Destruction]

The one thing I hate about these Frank Luntz polling videos is that they are not long enough. These are very interesting videos and it sucks that they are not longer then ~8 mins

[@kbanghart]

Probably cuz most people don't bother to watch if it's longer

[@dyodidyodi815]

I agree. Not only do the videos need to be longer, the depth of responses from the people and their level of engagement with each other needs to be higher. They're just talking at cross purposes, without courtesy or persuasive attempts at redirecting the other side to approach things differently. I just don't see how this helps anything: no one, either there or watching, comes away with a different perspective. Oh well.

[@phdtobe]

K M He probably sells access to the full video for paying clients.

[@jasond3270]

Someone comment the video was cut, the original had nasty comments coming from Trump voters.

[@nunez849]

Please come down to Brownsville, Tx and ask the wall question. I guarantee you’ll get a build the wall chant.

[@shammah98]

i thought Luntz was moving to New Zealand?

[@bballerryday]

6:20 BIG YIKES so basically you're saying you're own parents don't deserve any rights

[@bballerryday]

"When I vacation there" That's the point. These people aren't visitors. They come with the intent to stay for a better life because living in a one bedroom apartment for a family of 6 in the middle of McAllen, TX is better than a five bedroom in the war zones of Central America. These people are tax payers that care for the elderly, cook your food in restaurants, care for patients in hospitals, do the backbreaking work of picking the crops, heck they even design and repair our infrastructure. I know a lady from Cuba, received her PhD in Spain and it isn't valid in the US, so she became a CNA, now working towards a RN as a mother of 4 under 13. She always says the promise of America makes it worth it. They are American in every way.

[@judgedredd31]

Every way except the citizen way. I immigrated here with my family LEGALLY. We became citizens LEGALLY. We came carrying everything we owned in suitcases. We worked hard and did it LEGALLY. I'm a proud American citizen. I have an uncle who came here illegally who was deported. I love him, but the law is the law and he knows that. I never knew he was here illegally until after he was deported. I have no citizen rights in the country I immigrated from. I have no citizen rights where my son was born (South Korea). If you want rights, earn them. You are entitled to NOTHING. You don't deserve what you want just because you breathe air.

[@CavemanJesus4Life]

I must say growing up with a father who was abusive, had I known he was illegal, I would've called Immigration on his ass. I only say this because he ruined mostly all(mom, brothers & sister) of our lives.

[@gectek]

@@bballerryday if you fully believe that then you are ignorant. Alot also come here to take advantage of the system, or in payment to cartels etc. Some come here for the American dream...but others come here to continue to be career criminals and leech off of our system and rely on the bleeding hearts to turn a blind eye.

[@theheartsstory]

@@gectek You're disgusting. I see why you hide your face.

[@Blackjack09721]

Lol that exchange: "how did your parents get here ...?" "I am not sure I never asked" "Would you tell me for a Scooby Snack?" "Okay they came here illegally, but my views do not change". When did being a hypocrite become the standard way of conducting yourself?

[@O1OO1O1]

When emotion (e.g. care for his parents) compromises one's unemotional, dispassionate (get in here legally, even if you're in dire straights) judgements. I agree, though. If we are to be rational, let's strive to be rational in all situations.

[@littlesquidgaming]

He follows the rule of law? Is there a problem with that?

[@Blackjack09721]

@@littlesquidgaming well if that is the case he should probably go back to Mexico, and not live here since his parents came in illegally. Actually, a lot of people who came in through Angel and Ellis Island should probably do the same. Since you know....some left other countries without going through the proper channels, to get rid of their citizenship.

[@littlesquidgaming]

I would agree with you that nationals should improve their quality of life within their own country, however he is a Mexican-American born within the united states. This means he is a citizen of the united states and has the full rights and privledge guaranteed to him by our Constitution our Bill of Rights and our laws.

[@Blackjack09721]

@@littlesquidgaming Still technically came in here illegally so "rule of law". You can't justify the rules for some and not others, that makes you part of the problem in your interpretation of how people should conduct themselves.

[@kingbibihabibi]

Most annoying person in that room was Josue by far.

[@stevethomas4940]

It's hilarious that a guy that was raised by immigrants doesn't know if his parents came here legally lmao.

[@usernamesareforidiot]

"American children are starving, but I'm going to vote against people who are trying to fix poverty and I don't care about non-American children." Okay, lady.

[@usernamesareforidiot]

"Look at all the jobs Trump has created" Low paying/no healthcare jobs that keep Americans in poverty, not to mention that he's continuing the job growth that's been going on since 2010, but he's created less jobs than average. Obama had an average monthly job growth of 217,000. Trump's is 189,000. Businesses are also taking their tax cuts and moving jobs overseas. Food stamps have been decreasing since fiscal year 2014. They rose because of the recession, and have been declining ever since. That's not what the memes say, but that's the truth. Corporate welfare is at an all-time high. They're blowing up the deficit with trillions in tax cuts for the wealthy, and they're not turning around and investing in people. This is while prices on nearly everything are going up because of this insane and nonsensical trade war.

[@usernamesareforidiot]

@Evan Underwood manufacturing jobs are not high paying, and you neglected to address everything else. Not to mention, manufacturing jobs will all be automated soon. It's a bad temp solution to a much larger problem.

[@catherinestickels2591]

@Evan Underwood Deficit has seen a 14% rise so far under Trump, after consistently going down with Obama (It did start to go up again at the end of Obama's term when Republicans controlled Congress). Saying that he has had the greatest shrinking of the defecit in history is patently false. He hasn't even shrunk it at all.

[@TheShadowGames07]

Idk what businesses you think are 'coming back', but a lot of businesses are shutting down partially or completely because of tariffs until it is solved one way or another

[@ZoeiiZiZZles]

he's an anchor baby, what a hypocrite

[@ZoeiiZiZZles]

do you even know the definition of hypocrite? Hypocrite-a person who acts in contradiction to their stated beliefs or feelings when it comes to their own self interests. It's ok for his parents to come over here illegally, but not anyone else-major hypocrite

[@ZoeiiZiZZles]

No, he can believe whatever he wants, this is America but it's hypocritical to say it's ok for you and not others. For example, what if there was a drug that could cure a person from cancer, but in order to make the drug you have to kill one puppy. It wold be hypocritical of me to save myself, then tell other people no because it's wrong to kill puppies. You are the one who sees race, I said nothing about his race, i was just talking about his opinion. And speaking of Muslims, I am more afraid of radical Christians than i am of radical muslims. I have friends who are muslims, in fact I know one girl who is muslim that looks just like a barbie doll. she has white skin, blonde hair and blue eyes, but she is from Bosnia. i don't judge people by their skin color or anything else, if you saw her you would think she was born in sunny California, but you would be so wrong.

[@ZoeiiZiZZles]

It seems to me you are very afraid, worried about Sharia law and Ms-13. You are listening to people who are telling you to be afraid because people who are afraid are easy to manipulate. Benjamin Franklin, one of the founding fathers said-Those who give up Liberty for security deserve neither. If you love history as I do you can study about when the Irish and the Italians were coming over here at the end of the 19th and the first part of the 20th century and people on the right were saying basically the same thing you are saying now. They are going to do what the Pope says, they don't speak the language, they are uneducated, they are low skilled. It's the same old same old racists BS. And loving the USA, the USA is great because of the constitution and the idea of building something great out of all the people, you know, a melting pot. But if we stop being who we were, a country that helps the world, then yes, we deserve to die. LIBERTY or SECURITY, you pick.

[@ZoeiiZiZZles]

I do understand what Sharia and Ms-13 is, and no I am not afraid of them at all. I refuse to live my life in fear. If you are such a Christian, then why do you worry about fighting and dying for a country. I thought God was supposed to be above country? I thought as christians we are not to worry because it is all apart of His plan. I would never fight for this country, I would only fight for my family. you are not a patriot just because you wrap yourself in the flag, Trump attacks the news media, the first amendment gives us a free press, Trump is a con man, he is using the presidency to enrich himself and his family. I can not wait for the midterms I am voting straight democrat, and I will always vote against the Republican party. You are a fool, a cowardly, pathetic, baby who is afraid of your own shadow. It must be horrible to walk through life so afraid of the world. You need to pray to God for a little backbone baby.

[@ZoeiiZiZZles]

From Forbes as well---trump takes in 175 million a year from state owned entities like the Commercial Bank of China who rent space from him in many of the buildings he owns. Because of this China has granted the trump organization 39 trademarks for his company since he became president. He charged the secret service who protects him to rent rooms and pay for greens fees at his clubs when he is there, so he is basically making money from the government people meant to protect him. And the Saudi government recently bought an entire floor in his hotel in washington dc for 12 million dollars and trump himself said at a rally in alabama in august that the saudis buy apartments from me they spend 40 or 50 million. enough proof.

[@laxide13]

that Mexican guy is hilarious

[@arthura91]

Why edit this so much? So us what they said and stop editing it so much...

[@Dondonden1234]

The Hispanic guy is a hypocrit

[@donrainesoh]

don dennis as is every human alive.

[@philipjfry1383]

He identifies as an american not a mexican. Those who come here and identify as mexican will vote for the anti-american party democrat.

[@Dondonden1234]

@@philipjfry1383 yes, he is American but he's also 100% Mexican. Did you not hear the question asked if his parents came here legally from Mexico?? He didn't know.

[@philipjfry1383]

if his parent's weren't legal when they came they are now if you can provide 4 years of work history you can get citizenship.

[@blessdachef]

Did I hear that right the Hispanic man voting to deport his parents this s*** is funny... lmao

[@godiegodie1336]

That is being honest

[@garciadelacadena]

You are assuming his parents came illegally, most probably they came legally via the bracero program.

[@praxis4375]

@@garciadelacadena the bracero program ended in 1964, and he looks like he's in his 30s. His parents came here illegally, and he's a massive hypocrite.

[@garciadelacadena]

@@praxis4375 You have no idea how old his parents were when he was born, nor how old is he. Stop making assumptions, assuming his parents came here illegally is a clear sign of racism from the democrats/liberals against minorities, especially if you are a conservative.

[@praxis4375]

@@garciadelacadena he admitted that his parents didn't come here legally, you mouth breathing imbecile. Either watch the video or piss off, you babbling buffoon.

[@D1G1TALSYNAPS3]

Great segment.

[@ej3943]

Everybody forgot now that Mexico is going to pay for the wall. LOL.

[@DungeonMetal]

Bahaha the last lady somehow thinks that Brett Kavanaugh was treated unfairly? What dimmension are these people from ha ha ha

[@jessierolan]

He was unfairly sent to a rich prep school, he was unfairly given lots of alcohol to drink while he was underage, he was unfairly put in situations where he did "questionable" things with girls, he was unfairly forced to be part of a club in High School that (at least implied) all slept with one particular girl, he was unfairly accepted into Yale where his family was alumni of, he unfairly finished Yale with the lowest honors, he was unfairly granted judgeship in D.C. by his Yale pal George W even though he wasn't fully qualified, he was unfairly questioned about his past sexual behavior, despite being the guy who pushed for Bill Clinton to be asked explicit questions about ejaculation during the Kenn Starr investigation, he was unfairly asked to remember his discussions about the Mueller investigations over the last year, yet had no problem naming 60 girls he knew 35 years ago that he *didn't* sexually assault, he was unfairly asked to support the FBI investigating the sexual assault charges, even though they would help clear his name, he was unfairly confirmed to the SCotUS despite having serious question marks to his character because the Republicans were hell-bent on ramming his confirmation through before an election, even though they had recently obstructed another SC nominee for nearly an entire year to wait for an election. The GOP admitted before his nomination that other candidates would be easier to confirm, this was about politics, oh and the fact that Trump wanted him because Kavanaugh *now* doesn't think presidents should be investigated. So after Trump gave him a lifetime job in the highest court, how do you think he's going to vote if collusion charges make their way to the SC?

[@Jam-uq6lk]

What was funny is that other lady brought up immigration and the other woman said not to vote on feelings but facts. Then the last lady said she wasn't gonna vote but now is because she feels kavanaugh was treated unfairly and the other woman didn't tell her anything voting based on feelings.

[@theAppleWizz]

the funny thing is that what she said is literally a line from fox news

[@danameizmarc]

Why Ted Cruz and the Republicans win? One word..... Gerrymandering

[@bm6nation]

Why Democrats win? One word... illegals

[@danameizmarc]

Youre one of those type of ppl... smh

[@sebcw1204]

another way they would win is that cruz is throwing out new voter registrations. cant get unelected if you dont let new voters in.

[@nirtlocj]

Uhhhhhh, how exactly do you gerrymander a senate race. So, uhhh, Ted Cruz got elected because of gerrymandering? LOL.

[@bubbiesdad]

MarcTheStrong Shaking your head? That explains that rattling noise. Idiot.

[@eddp.2562]

Wow . The Hispanic man is now worried about his citizenship status. Lol

[@zamoneperez6515]

Anyone notice that the guy said 120 billion, but it’s actually only 12 billion that would be generated😂😂😂

[@bubbiesdad]

You didn't pay attention. It's 120 billion.

[@serioushamster]

12 billion a year for 10 years is $120 billion.

[@joshuas637]

did you pass grade school?

[@LauraLParr]

That Hispanic dude. Boy bye.

[@noahthecool7637]

Why? Because he has a different opinion than the rest of his community?

[@gentleeyes]

There was a woman too :(

[@chuck366ify]

shit he was more respectable than any democrat I have talked to.. you are to afraid to admit that they are breaking the law when they come here without the proper procedures.

[@lepiee]

@@chuck366ify Wow, the ignorance... You do realize that the majority of the people who cross are from rural parts of Mexico? They don't have money for a proper process, or to even travel to the major city to get that done. Nothing is free in this world, you need money to get shit done. This is why many come here first, and than go back to get the paper work done.

[@chuck366ify]

lepiee did you know most of the women who cross get raped by the coyotes? I have been to the Mexico border and have seen the panties hanging off the tree. dont call me ignorant I understand the issue. it doesnt make it right though

[@tammymaam7882]

Ted Cruz is Christian ? The Bible speaks of immigration saying : Exodus 22:21 -“Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt” Exodus 23:9- “Do not oppress a foreigner; You yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners because you were foreigners in Egypt” Deuteronomy 10:18- “He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing” I don’t see Ted Cruz upholding any of these truths.

[@sabin97]

christianity is a cafeteria religion. they pick and choose which parts of their holy books to obey and which parts to completely ignore.

[@bm6nation]

Nigga I ain't lived in Egypt GTFO

[@DaveSkylark111]

Thanks for letting both sides speak. I mean seriously, its pretty rare. It’s more entertaining when you can see both sides.

[@dallassax]

6:18 *Holy, shit. I’m an anchor baby.*

[@sabinogarcia4980]

As a latino, as a son of illegal immigrants, that fool who talked about being Hispanic yet not giving the same opportunity to other illegal immigrants that he has is a disgrace to our community.

[@m.rodrigolemus6224]

Agree... unfortunately there are many STUPID IGNORANT FOOLS like him.

[@podbarron]

He's an Uncle Tomás haha

[@kiriweratukukino9160]

Illegal immigrants do not deserve that right.

[@sabinogarcia4980]

Kiriwera Tukukino neither did your ancestors. But they are here anyways aren’t they.

[@kiriweratukukino9160]

My ancestors ain’t from America.

[@supremeleader9440]

Just left the Beto rally he really is running a populist no Corporate PAC money campaign seems like a no brainier lol.

[@Jakem723]

Rob Parra one of raphael’s big money donors, sheldon adelson, poured in 2 million just last month.

[@jacobhellman9181]

Beto has 100% taken PAC money

[@oorrossie]

I mean, it's shitty and not in any way a fair situation, but so has Cruz (and a lot more of it too.) I think we have to consider how that PAC money is shaping their politics, for Cruz he's pushing us towards relying on energy that won't be there within the next century, for Beto he's pushing us towards renewable energy that's a pretty vastly growing industry. It's pretty much the same situation with marijuana too, Texas has the opportunity to experience some of the boom Colorado has seen in recent years by legalizing (which 2/3 of Texans support) or sit out on it until everyone else has done it under Cruz.

[@Jakem723]

Jakob Hellmann Not in the senate race. And this past quarter 68% of his money came from Texas. That’s far more than Raphael.

[@kbanghart]

@@jacobhellman9181 false

[@as17ns22]

Re: "the wall discussion" - how do you compel an "undocumented worker" to pay a portion of their earnings to fund "the wall" when they are undocumented? Does that entire concept not disregard the initial premise that these people are undocumented? If you could compel them to pay some sort of fee or tax, wouldn't that be the end of the problem right there and preclude the necessity for a wall?

[@YUNGGOOK]

7:10 she just says the same thing lmaooo

[@pandemic7]

The Lone Brain Cell State

[@dassnek4728]

That explains the large number of beto signs.

[@Huddy52]

That last Hispanic guy is painful to watch. I wouldve fallen out of my chair with laughter and cringe

[@nomadismileseeker6611]

Who let the Chet monster from weird science in?

[@jaymo27]

This is the best thing I’ve seen out of Vice, I’m surprised and glad that you kept an objective stance in the video and didn’t cut it to make one side look worse than the other