Watch how DANGEROUS the new EU Tesla AutoPilot Ban is... Extreme 2019.16.2 Review / Testing

[@TeslaDriver]

Thank you for 40,000 Subscribers! ⚡ I'm very happy this channel is getting attention for the Autonomy & Electric future that I do truly think will change the game. I documented my Gaming adventures for the last 5 years (MasterOv if you didn't already know) and now I want a change (but still want to stay sitting down and talking to a camera lol) so I plan to document my Electric & Autonomous journey now for the next couple of years & plan to travel the globe to see what every country is getting up to with it & how it differs. Currently I'm putting too much time into this project though to do it all by myself so I will be hiring a Camera operator & editor (If your local to Hereford get in touch) but to do this we need funding for the channel. I spoke about getting sponsors (of which I have a couple lined up wanting) but so many people asked to try make it a Community Channel being funded by the community through Patreon. I love this thought so have started a Patreon for the channel to see if this is truly something we could do. It not only would give me more freedom to create content some brands wouldn't want to be associated with but also allows you all to get a say in the content and direct of the channel. - patreon.com/tesladriver Anyway let me know what you think of it all so for & if you want to become a Patron that would be amazing. Next month once this giveaway ends we will be running a giveaway for our Patrons. I hope from now in 3 years there will be a fully autonomous car available to buy, lets come back to this comment and see if it became a reality. Thanks! ⚡

[@Kayshots]

No prob man!

[@chaoticbean9532]

Did you see my comment? "You resist to use the horn, I dont."

[@SmartieTV]

I was here since your first 10k!! Sooo amazing to see this channel grow so fast!

[@sohailshah4849]

Now ur on 41 k

[@weich1q2w]

The reason that it asks for you to move the wheel now even though your had/ arm should be applying enough force by having it rest on it I would assume is because of the recent stories of drunk people falling asleep with there hand on the wheel and the car keeps on driving and thinks they are paying attention because of the weight of their arm etc.

[@skoto8219]

2019: "I don't think recent geopolitical events are affecting how my car steers itself"

[@TeslaDriver]

Never thought that statement would make perfect sense but sadly its spot on!

[@UAPJedi]

No, but it is the EU intentionally making Tesla’s more dangerous to stop sales going to Tesla, they are protecting the big German manufacturers. I bet you, as soon as BMW, Mercedes, Audi etc etc have caught up these laws will be instantly rescinded.

[@essayedgar]

@@UAPJedi sure buddy

[@UAPJedi]

John Doe i know buddy

[@jc2759]

Go to minute 9...Reminds me of driving from Efffingham to my favorite pub the White Horse (without the steep hill).in Shere ...don’t know how I never got into an accident.. a couple of lagers,narrow, high hedges, walls, irritating bikers who thought they were,wearing yellow ,horse riders, oncoming speeding cars, buses and lorries..tons of blind curves and ridiculously the speed limit was 60 mph....if a Tesla could do that road automatically, it is ready for anything.

[@2felRavenzz]

Tesla: "Hold my wheel stronger, i am so scared"

[@PiotrPilinko]

"We are going to die! We are going to die! We are going to die! We arrived to the destination. Thank you!"

[@rackjice2952]

Oh yes, white tape on the steering wheel or something similar is a great shout!

[@nathanadhitya]

how to slav your car spotted

[@rackjice2952]

Would still be good to see the tape Mr Tesla Diver! Loving the recent videos, really appreciating frequent uploads too, such a pleasant surprise :D

[@hendrikdependrik1891]

"Article 13 car section"

[@Ilman01]

lol

[@oberonsol6508]

Sigh...only if ppl would know what article 13 really is... and if they would know that it's actually article 17... But you know...ppl are idiots...and they follow the louder idiots...

[@jeffluo8960]

They should also add a plane section.

[@parka0m485]

@@oberonsol6508 r/iamverysmart

[@kwakhru435]

@@parka0m485 r/ihavereddit

[@wirtualbb]

10:44 British enginering and absurdity - 60mph on tight roads and speed limits to 30(!!!) on doubble line, the wide ones....

[@abdu1989]

wirtualbb tell me about. I live here n suffer the worst road speeds! 20mph in town too 😭

[@raverdeath100]

only "absurd" to those who can't drive. the majority of the 30 to 40 million of us who do don't seem to have a problem. you drive to suit the conditions.

[@DarthZackTheFirstI]

to suit the policeman?

[@Un1verses_]

@@raverdeath100 and *most* can't drive to begin with. And a lot of people are braindead and believe if the speed is high then it must be able to be taken at such speeds.

[@gabrielh5105]

Here in Bogotá, Colombia, we have speed limit of about 31 mph in highways

[@The-Rest-of-Us]

“This road is literally hell.” Hopefully just virtually & not literally....

[@poplaurentiu4148]

I just realize that Tesla are Dangerous for the rest of the people in traffic (cyclist, pedestrians, busses, semi- trucks..) specially when Autonomous Mode is activated.. I love driving my car, I will never get an electric vehicle !

[@cuteshadow]

@@poplaurentiu4148 What a unqualified statement. Autonomus driving is 20 or more times less likely to have a accident. I like driving, i own a sports car for that, but for daily my next one will most likely be alternative (E, H2, etc. powered). I assume you refuse to use Anto Lock brakes, Seat Belts, Airbags if you are so much into pure driving? Why not get a car with an unsynchronized transmission?

[@poplaurentiu4148]

You talk about apples and i talk about peaches honey.. (unless an exception like rare old cars that do not have from factory safety systems but need approves and require special permission to be used on public roads) i thought you know by now that basic safety system like seat belts & airbags are mandatory for any modern vehicle by the driving laws & public transportation in any country, if you want to use a car on public roads must comply to basic safety rules.. so it can not be compared to autonomous pilot which is an extra optional feature an electric controlled unit programmed by humans to partially or fully take control of some car functions that replace lazy people which should get a bus or train instead if they don't want to drive on public roads so, is an optional pack not mandatory for all vehicles on roads ! And before we continue here i let you know i have driving license from 1994 -without any accidents and I'm not stranger to motorsport either i won few events starting from Go-karts, rally and up-hill climbing races from Europe.. So to keep it shortly : Autonomous driving and Autopilot on any car is only useful for people that suffer a form of handicap, are too drunk or wounded /affected by an injury, so is not mandatory is optional !

[@thomaswijgerse723]

@@poplaurentiu4148 whats that got to do with getting an electric vehicle? and how does that make tesla's in general dangerous without AP enabled?

[@poplaurentiu4148]

@Sam Smethurst.. the clip pop out on my daily youtube views page and reading the title i thought i should watch it to clear-out any doubts regarding this matter..

[@conceptspromo4577]

It’s pointless using autopilot for those silly roads in the UK. More like pathways. No consistency, with endless obstacles

[@allowambeBOWWAMB]

In preparation for FSD they should really get autopilot to handle them :)

[@adimw]

agree; don't know how any computer system could sensibly compute the clusterfuck that is those narrow lanes with oncoming traffic. Perhaps another 20 years of AI before it will work as well as a human.

[@Reinbeats]

Sam Smethurst it’s not complicated for a human but for a car that is designed for the US, these roads don’t work out

[@Eagles_Eye]

instead of making self driving cars safer.. its making it dangerous. GG EU(UN), jeez.

[@ronylouis0]

Lately they've been voting shit. Let's hope the new elections will do anything.

[@_bonofox_]

I dont think, that this is the fault of the EU (at least not all of this) Basically its important to have rules and regulations, especially in road traffic. For example: a self driving car, that indicates and drives between two lanes for a minute, is quite dangerous. To avoid that, they implemented the 5 second rule for lane changing. I think, that Tesla will improve its system, so that it fits the new rules and still works great. But for now, they just limited the things, the autopilot can do. What I want to say - I hope that its going to work better within the next few updates 😅

[@dave597]

14:30 Jesus christ, going at 50mph on those narrow country roads, some with no centre marking, in the rain, with uneven fixed potholes on the left and assuming that AP will do it's thing. Rather you than me! And it didn't see that cyclist - omg. Some day you'll resign to the fact that AP is not suitable for all roads. I like your determination to testing it out on every road possible but the average Tesla owner doesn't want to babysit AP like that, driving with AP on is supposed to remove stress not increase it!

[@TeslaDriver]

No I totally agree on these roads its not for everyday use yet. I do however do this for fun & to test its limits but because I'm filming it I'm 100% concentrating and literally stating everything I see & feel so I don't deem it unsafe just unpredictable since this update.

[@dave597]

@@TeslaDriver Awesome, I like how you intervened well before for the cyclist, you definitely seem to be paying more attention than the average road user for sure. Stay safe!

[@willwonka1325]

Is your microphone super sensitive or do you shout?? Great videos btw

[@NorCalLuxury]

😂👍

[@CRAZYCR1T1C]

Auto pilot looks like a lot of stress. It’s really just for motorways. You have to be completely crazy to use it on A and B roads

[@thelining4078]

Natural shouter at work. Having a loud and annoying voice is a serious condition, often leading up to being addicted to creating KZbin videos.

[@RamkrishanYT]

Tesla after the no update: I'm just the shadow of the man I used to be.......and it feels like there's no way out of this for me

[@gbfilmsquad8262]

Leagaly the first two lane road wasn’t duel carriageway because there was no physical divide

[@ukmonk]

Said before, its states in the manual AP only for use on motorways and dual carriage ways. People cant moan about it not working as it should in towns and cities when at this moment in time its not intended for these situations.

[@ConkysFlippinAdventures]

I recently looked into the new model 3 lease. Unless I read something wrong, it appeared that it was a closed end lease and that Tesla intended to use the returned cars for self driving taxi's in cities like New York and LA, so either those cars will be sitting and waiting for the bugs to get ironed out or Tesla will need to get moving on the (city) self driving improvements.

[@RisibleVolatile]

FYI : when you get a nag with red hands, it's because it lost the lines for too long and is afraid it's gonna drift to danger, hence asking you to take control right away. We have shitty lane markings in Quebec after winter has passed, so I get that nag very often!

[@AidanCadogan]

The new regulations limit lateral acceleration, not steering angle, which is still BS

[@anhurr1508]

If I win this giveaway you’re gonna see the first person to flex a Tesla wall charger without a Tesla 😂

[@thestudentofficial5483]

Lmao

[@NekoCoaster]

6:15 Just noticed that on the 2019.12.11 version, the other lanes showed up on the Instrument cluster but not on the 2019.16.2 version.

[@NekoCoaster]

@iTheGeek Might have missed it at some point since like to do other things while glancing over at this video from time to time~

[@michaelfink64]

I lived in England for a year. I had forgotten how narrow and windy the roads are and how close the hedgerows are. It’s really hard to anticipate which way the roads are going to bend, especially on a crest. A good testing ground for Autopilot. Thanks for showing us how it performs.

[@tanmay______]

You haven't seen Indian roads XD

[@Fromatic]

It is impressive overall, did well on the country lanes at the end. But I think we would need a dedicated team of people working on the system understanding UK roads specifically, if they're not already

[@_PatrickO]

They would be easy to understand if you fixed them so you drove on the correct side.

[@danyaal9177]

@@_PatrickO idiot

[@konstantinosb7854]

What hasnt changed from the previous software is the rainy days you choose to record autonomous driving

[@TeslaDriver]

Try finding a dry day in the UK haha

[@konstantinosb7854]

@@TeslaDriver True that

[@Shabazza84]

The steering regulation has something to do with "maximum lateral acceleration". Not range. They are basically limiting how fast / at which rate it can turn, not the total angle. I'm just not sure if the idea is "comfort" or "safety". For me, it's not good for anything... Just by reading all those UN R79 "proposals", where they are giving formulas for min or max values for all sorts of dynamic driving stuff, I become legitimately afraid of what implementing those proposals will do to the innovation process. Not everything that looks good on paper IS good in the complex, interwoven reality...

[@thejayzed]

Shabazza84 yes exactly right. Ironically the lawmakers by limiting “maximum lateral acceleration” they are probably increasing the danger as that means that the cars are now more likely to quit steering during a higher speed tight corner, exactly when you have even less time to respond! Crazy stuff. Sadly if accidents happen, the media will just blame it on Tesla not these artificially imposed rules. Love the autopilot videos on this channel though and damn those roads are crazy narrow!

[@rahuliox]

this is good footage and comentary. Strange how some hard things it does really well, and then seems to not know about the bicycle. Kind of crazy. Glad you are so attentive.

[@nick.812]

Congrats on 40k 🎉 Really love your content, not manny car channels do videos so in-depth.

[@marcuscarlsson2456]

Just want to let you know that I ordered a Model S this Monday and naturally I used your link. Your videos are by far the best out there. Keep up the good work. / Marcus

[@TeslaDriver]

Thats amazing Marcus thank you very much for supporting the content! What S did you go for?

[@marcuscarlsson2456]

Long Range. Pearl-white with white interior. I guess now the loooong waiting begins :)

[@NorCalLuxury]

Agreed.

[@mohammad9754]

This is how it works on dual carriageways: - Lane changes depend on the curvature of the carriageway (This will work on all highways because they have a low curvature) - Nav on Autopilot also depends on the curvature, but requires it to be even more ideal (Will also work on all highways) And this safety implementation is because of the limited steering, of course. If they didnt do it this way, nav on autopilot might make some serious mistakes due to limited steering, oh like, who knows, taking you to Wales? * Edit: to clarify, if you change lanes to the left, WHILE the road is also curving left, it would require a lot more steering angle.

[@deanchur]

Videos like this make me grateful for the simplicity of my 10 year old manual Fiesta

[@abdu1989]

What happened at 9:30. I guess your Tesla nearly drove into the bush hahaha

[@imperiallegatus395]

Misread the title as "how dangerous Tesla autopilot is" and wanted to suggest the exact title you actually put, very good title choice! :D this is not Teslas fault, the car is perfectly capable! it's most likely Germany's fault, who's mislead government might want to give the German companies an unfair advantage. instead they should subsidise a Tesla gigafactory in Germany, which would be the best way to preserve jobs, the goal they sadly seem to be willing to get people hurt for.

[@RubenKelevra]

I agree. Greetings from Germany.

[@imperiallegatus395]

@@RubenKelevra to you as well ;D

[@imperiallegatus395]

@Car Fli Have a look at the channel's older videos, you'll see it worked much better on roads like these until the latest update which was forced by the regulation. Tesla is further ahead than others because they use fleet learning. A neural net gets better at making decisions the more it gets trained, it needs to learn by making decisions over and over and figuring out which outcomes are preferable. The more people, the better the system gets, so by pushing the boundaries of Autopilot while taking control if it makes bad decisions, drivers make the system better.

[@jpaulvids]

The hand detection was very frustrating at first. The key is that it is measuring torque on the wheel as contact. If your hands are evenly spaced and not applying any torque on the wheel then it will warn you and not read that you are touching the wheel. I have found the best way to handle it is to just leave one hand on the wheel and allow it to slightly pull on the wheel the entire time. That torque on the wheel is what the car is sensing as your touch. It is one of the most frustrating features, but not hard to work with once you understand how it works.

[@stevenfox4813]

I'm in NZ. I have had 2019.16.2 for a while and steering is the same but the hands on the wheel nag is worse. So I don't think NZ has adopted the UN steering regs. We don't have Navigate on Autopilot yet. This morning I got 2019.16.3.1 but there is nothing new in the release notes.

[@tavi_chocochip]

AP got disabled on single carriageways (no physical divider) or dual carriageways with a narrow divider that may be confused for a lane because there is (at least at the moment) a risk that the neural net will interpret the opposing lane of traffic as a neighbouring lane to your right and attempt to merge you into oncoming traffic. AFAIK.

[@tavi_chocochip]

Victor Hugo There was recently a dash cam video of a guy in the US (I think) driving with Nav on Autopilot on a single carriageway, the camera saw an incoming lorry in the opposite lane and the AP suggested a… ahem… lane change. So I’m assuming that the neural network sometimes gets confused (particularly in curves, when oncoming traffic looks like cars in front of your car) and has trouble distinguishing between the back of vehicles, which it can trail in traffic, and the front, in which case it should stay the hell out of the way. Until it gets better at that, it’s disabled on those roads.

[@dragonflame49]

I don't think they were trying to restrict Tesla autopilot with the new rulings. Most of todays auto-steering in other vehicles besides Tesla only applies to highway/motorway(?) driving. So their reasoning is probably that in those situations you would want to limit how much the steering wheel could actually turn to prevent dangerous situations where the autosteering oversteers by malfuctions or otherwise. Kind of like the 747max airplanes being able to push down the nose of the airplanes when there were faulty readings and crashing because of it. This however does have a negative side-effect to the Tesla autopilot system and there should be either clarification or more in depth laws that would allow for more steering in applicable situations if it has been proven to be able to do so safely.

[@Verden-rv9iw]

Hmmmm....First of all.... You are driwing on wrong side of the road.

[@Edwoah_The_Legend]

Verden 1979 i hope this comment is a joke

[@zippodk]

Everybody is confused while driving in England. Terrible roads, traffic and driving on the wrong side.

[@fishtankoala]

can't believe you're MasteOv man, crazy how after all these years I end up watching you again!

[@michaelthelen5297]

I'd die of stress driving on the roads over there. Beautiful countryside, and views though.

[@coolfred9083]

Are American (or wherever you're from) roads simpler than in the UK?

[@philh3709]

It's easier than it looks. You just need to keep your eyes shut.

[@akzebraminer]

Phil H They do that in India already

[@michaelthelen5297]

@@coolfred9083 Yes USA. Our roads are not vastly better (and can differ quite a bit between states). However its pretty rare to have dual lane roads without markings (at least a center line). I think driving in videos looks faster than it really is as well.

[@tothethreshold.9965]

@@michaelthelen5297 30mph towns, 60 mph country lanes (yes even what Americans see as single lane roads around 8-12 ft wide are usually 60mph ) 70mph dual carriageway / motorway. The driving test standards are much higher here than in most US states (average of 50 hours driving tuition with a 2 part driving test for cars) tho its nothing on countries like Denmark where the tests can take over a year to pass.

[@Bubblegummonsters]

I find these videos really insightful so keep up the awesome work. I've got a Model 3 on order and I selected FSD option but now with all these new laws I'm wondering if it's worth the extra £5000. I'm thinking it might just be worth waiting a few more years before buying FSD. What are your thoughts. Also congrats on the 41k, what a great give away. I'll have to enter your competition as I really need to get a charger before the car arrives. Keep up the awesome work

[@NorCalLuxury]

👍🚘

[@MihkelKukk]

Scott Manly: Fly safe! This guy: Drive safe!

[@xuangli3952]

scott manley is an overgrown child

[@rhuisjes02]

@Tesla driver: WHY do you constantly keep changing/lowering the maximum speed??? Autopilot should break itself right? That would be a fair/good test

[@michaeldunn3387]

Also I don't know if you no. But when it asks you to apply hands to steering wheel. You can actually keep your knees touching the steering wheel instead. It seems to work on a sensor now rather than slightly moving the steering wheel.

[@theliberalfoundation4085]

It might be a good idea to make a petition to the European Union, and direct them to here.

[@RubenKelevra]

Actually it didn't really results in disadvantages on this drive. It's showing warnings on anyway sketchy corners. 🤔

[@TeslaDriver]

Never had these warnings before and the car was able to do all corners shown in this video in the last version with way more confidence

[@RubenKelevra]

@@TeslaDriver I felt this looks better than the last version, actually. But the roads are really really sketchy. I don't want to drive on them, TBH.

[@theliberalfoundation4085]

@@TeslaDriver It's not just the UK as well; I have friends in Denmark and Estonia who hate the new updates even though at least DK roads aren't nearly as bad. I personally own a Volkswagen, not a Tesla, but from this and the last video about the new 'UN/ECE R79' regulations, I can see it's gone downhill. I'm really tempted to put up a petition if there isn't one already.. xD

[@petyke66]

@@theliberalfoundation4085 Why? Autopilot is dead, well never ever been a good idea. Road markings are missing all the time. Maybe I repeat maybe in the next 40-50 years will be a good idea. Technology is not very advanced yet

[@MalcolmCrabbe]

Just an observation, when you mentioned how the old software worked in a stretch of road you can see that the graphic on the screen at 6:18 represented the road correctly with a broken line between lanes, where as the new software just has the two solid lines, so maybe it's confused thinking that the road is single lane ?? - Like I said, just an observation. I don't own a Teslar, nor have I been in one.

[@cjgeist]

The broken lines are only there when the car is doing a lane change in autopilot. When it's staying in one lane the lines are always solid.

[@DoggoRides]

5:45 Kids, don't use your phone while driving. You might die.

[@hikaru9624]

Or you might kill someone else.

[@just675mills]

4 minutes in. That is NOT a dual carriageway!

[@Bijomaru78]

I stopped watching this shite after that moment. And he claims in a subtitle that it falls under a dual-carriageway because it's a 2+1?

[@AkinaGhost]

So many people don't know what the difference between them is and the naming doesn't help. The North American terminology makes it a lot clearer - divided highway. It's this simple, if there isn't a central divider/median it's not a dual carriageway, the number of lanes is irrelevant.

[@BooBaddyBig]

This thing about it not changing lanes- are you sure it couldn't be as simple as that your system has lost the sensor (due to software or hardware issues) and so can't be sure that there's nothing in your blind spots, so it's refusing to change lanes, just in case?

Precisely.

[@jordiheres8407]

You were charging AC probably, the onboard charger does about 11kwh/h then only DC chargers will be faster. Still a huge rip-off though :)

[@Mojo29]

Your thing at the start, that isn’t a dual carriageway, a dual carriageway always has a median/central reservation to separate the lanes going in different directions. Two lanes going the same way isn’t a dual carriageway!

[@jordons7963]

They are crippling tesla’s autopilot so much by this

[@hloandy]

Hi Jordon, It would be really interesting to know who 'They' are. They need to make themselves known and be engaged in a public forum/debate, so we can all understand where they are coming from. Someone needs to take them on and do an interview (Tesla Driver, i1 Tesla, Teslanomics, TEN, Fully Charged - don't mind, but someone please).

[@originalbadboy32]

Good.. You have 28 different countries all with their own road systems & markings... EU is doing the right thing...

[@SpudderRail]

@@originalbadboy32 and the system can be programmed to work in all countries using GPS and updates downloaded from the Internet, the EU are being twats.

[@xponen]

@@SpudderRail if Tesla could do it then they should do that, EU is just a red-tape/regulation telling/nagging people/Tesla what can/can't be done, the execution is still in Tesla's hand.

[@jordons7963]

Richard Savage Tesla autopilot was improving after every update making it safer for the driver and people around... crippling the autopilot steering etc actually makes it have a higher chance to cause a accident. Restricting the autopilot is a step backwards not forward

[@J3ffJoyce]

That's crazy! I can't wait to see what they do with software updates.

[@uzijn]

4:20 Hi, that's a single carriageway, not a dual carriageway. It's defined by whether or not there is a central reservation (such as a kerb, grass or barrier) and not the amount of lanes. For example, you can have 3 lanes in either direction separated by a painted line and it's a 60mph single carriageway or you can have 1 lane in either direction separated by a kerb and it's a 70mph dual carriageway. Thanks!

[@elweewutroone]

‘This is a dual carriageway’ Dual carriageways have TWO roadways, not one!

[@CommaGaming]

No, a dual carriageway means that your direction and the opposite one are separated by a physical barrier. You can have 1 lane dual carriageways

[@elweewutroone]

TWO ROADWAYS SEPARATED BY A PHYSICAL BARRIER! SABRE Wiki: www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Dual_carriageway

[@rayeemon]

That biker non detection is concerning..... hopefully it gets fixed

[@DarthZackTheFirstI]

we dont know that for sure. he changed lanes way before. when you look at the stop light, the car breaks close to it. it would really require a test to it :p

[@LoneBeastYT]

WAIT ARE YOU MASTER OV???....I JUST REALISED IT (saw all those slither.io or diep.io or whatever Io games you used to play 2 years ago) KEEP UP THE WORK (I always thought you and master ov are similar and for proof I know master ov is I think your name is Oliver or something

[@NorCalLuxury]

👍

[@LoneBeastYT]

@@NorCalLuxury found someone who agrees....i feel like I am a god (me in a nutshell)

[@ca52nva]

Just found your content and about to begin my Tesla journey. Deciding between new model 3 or used model s. Until my car arrives enjoying experiencing some of the features through your videos. Thanks

[@TeslaDriver]

Awesome! I chose the M3 over the S in the end. After being in a M3 as well I’m happy with my choice & my wallet is happier too XD

[@samuelkolaric8006]

15:40 i tough my screen was dirty

[@nelsonion3529]

The autosteer limit may be on the force it can apply so at slower speed it can turn more, and therefore at higher speeds be only able to turn slightly

[@alexjenkins1079]

I hope that this is all fixed in the first update after we leave the EU

[@joshuam20]

Alex Jenkins That won’t stop the law from being there, we would have to repeal that law ourselves.

[@TeslaDriver]

Id assume it would give the UK the ability to decide if they wanted it or not just like the USA did. But I doubt (due to our EU car sales) they would change it to make AudiVW,Bmw & Merc happy

[@cyberhodl]

@@TeslaDriver at least we can try tho :)

[@alexjenkins1079]

Kyle Ayton-Laplanche Yes, I hope Elon can persuade our MPs to introduce and pass a bill, or get the Tesla drivers’ clubs to write letters/emails etc. to their MPs to legalise non-EU autopilot

[@alexjenkins1079]

Joshua McConville True, does Elon know of this potential? He could actually get the EU to change its laws on autonomous vehicles by demonstrating it in real life on British roads, especially if their roads are deemed to be similar enough to ours.

[@matt_ken]

listening to Elon speak: we will have full self driving cars very soon. Watches video of car on autopilot, tries to crash in to everything: we might have self driving cars at some point.

[@pauldzim]

The United Nations is making rules on autonomous driving? WTF??

[@elanglugito8003]

European Union*

[@Nnn30055]

Fr do they not have wars and immigration to sort out.

[@LetsTakeWalk]

@@elanglugito8003 No it's the UN, which the EU (including the UK) is following. There is not reason why these rules exist.

[@vix86]

Technically its on "Steering systems." Funny thing is that France and the UK were the ones that originally drew up the regulations.

[@MrPaukann]

The UN makes guidelines on everything.

[@Noksus]

Regulations are a silk screen of making things appear more safe. It's actually making the car more dangerous because it can't stay in its own lane because it can't steer enough. Lawmakers are so out of touch of the reality. They should go try the self drive features before making these asinine regulations!

[@PaulMNelson]

Not sure where you get the 2+1 definition of a dual carriageway from but the driver awareness course (ahem) says a dual carriageway is defined by separation not the number of lanes in either direction. That makes more sense. Strictly speaking therefore, a motorway is also a form of dual carriageway even though it generally has 3 lanes (or 4 on the new smart motorways). Also- £6 for half an hour and only get the miles you quote... I wanted to go Tesla 3 this year but not at that price ☹️

[@Movie_Games]

1:56 Is it just me or is he hitting cancel instead of start autopilot? And then complaining it doesn't work?

[@EliteProductions3129]

He's pointing, not pressing cancel.

[@willjames6609]

I'd like it if the narrative was more observational and analytical and less excitable and less full of hyperbole. It's good content and good testing but it's loud and over the top which is distracting.

[@mattg1606]

to add on to that, with the current situation Tesla is in and the sensationalist media news covering these issues, i don't think such videos do many favours to Tesla and electric cars in general. Like mate, the autopilot is not meant for B roads wide enough for 1.5 cars, of course it's gonna be dangerous. But having these clickbaity titles, while i'm sure helps his views in the current climate, is very shitty for Tesla

[@RubenKelevra]

Actually it doesn't look crippled at all (for the turning) just some warning messages on (anyway) very sketchy turnes. Keep in mind that the system is meant for highways only at the moment. Everything above is bonus. NavOnAp is meant for highways not for this kind of roads you're testing it on 🤔

[@TeslaDriver]

Autopilot isn't only for highways, NavOnAp is yes but it worked on a Dual Carriageway before so wanted to test it here also on a 2+1. The messages are new, the car now doesn't steer smoothly when those messages appear as it has to keep the lateral Gs down to follow the new rules.

[@RubenKelevra]

@@TeslaDriver well, Tesla do state this: »Warning: Do not use Traffic-Aware Cruise Control on city streets or on roads where traffic conditions are constantly changing.« »Warning: Autosteer is intended for use only on highways and limited-access roads with a fully attentive driver. [...] Do not use Autosteer on city streets, in construction zones, or in areas where bicyclists or pedestrians may be present.« So where are your informations from? 🤔

[@RALLIROOTS]

Ordered today. Used your referral link. Cheers bud. 🤜🏻🤛🏻

[@shadowninja6689]

Man, WTF were the people who designed some of those roads thinking making it 60? Even going 45 on many sections of those roads looked downright reckless.

[@Monkeh616]

The road isn't 60, it's national speed limit, which is up to 60 on this class of road - but you must always drive at a speed safe for the road and conditions. It's a limit, not a target. There would be an immense number of signs if they applied a specific limit to each and every section of what are very variable roads. They are not designed, they are grown. The layout of these roads is not defined by some planning office, but by the terrain, existing pathways, landmarks, privately owned land.. I sometimes wonder what it must be like to grow up in a modern city and be totally ignorant of the real world. Drivers are expected to be capable of using their judgement and taking responsibility for their own actions.

[@JaredD135]

To help avoid the "apply slight pressure" warning, when holding the wheel. Dont let the wheel just turn freely, hold slightly firm so it has a little resistance.

[@thelining4078]

Long long way until the Autopilot will deserve its name.

[@__aceofspades]

That's my biggest issue as a potential US buyer. Tesla does scummy things like suggest the cars are self driving, and that they wont need hardware updates to improve (already proven wrong with the model 3s). It should've been called Co-pilot, or something else to make it clear the current version is not a set it and forget it system. Autopilot in airplanes do 99% of the flying, only landing and takeoff and really bad weather are manual.

[@roywilkie9577]

Does anyone else see the problem with using two interactive screens - one larger than your laptop's - while driving? Please. I ride a bike everyday, and the worst drivers I encounter are almost always the ones in Teslas.

[@langjones3846]

"it's very confusing when you say "it broke" instead of "it braked".

[@coolfred9083]

Isn't it broke not backed though?

[@nicoladavies3391]

Brake and break different verbs, it’s braked and broke.

[@djtaylorutube]

Indeed, the past participle of Brake is indeed braked. Next up in English class, well be discussing the difference between "paid" and "payed"...

[@langjones3846]

@@akzebraminer No, it isn't.

[@akzebraminer]

Lang Jones I feel like an idiot now. Thank you.

[@emilpopovic9624]

Letting tesla evolve is the safest option in my opinion

[@joshuam20]

Glad I intend of moving the us cause they don’t have a ridiculous union intending on limiting progress of technology.

[@nicoladavies3391]

A different sort of ridiculous union.

[@TheLastCrankers]

As much as I want autopilot to be an everyday thing, it'll take some years more to get there. I'm betting that engineers will come up with a different algorithm/method of data processing before this is up to our expectations.

[@NorCalLuxury]

Interesting

[@megamef]

I think the turning limit is speed dependant which would explain why auto parking worked. You should repeat the same section of curve at different speeds to see the difference for sure.

[@Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit]

So un full autonomy I never understand what speed the car would drive at? I dont use AP on smaller roads as the car drives at max speed which is totally and utterly unsafe. Tesla MUST be happy with this or would not allow AP to be engaged. I honestly believe that autopilot is dangerous currently and only a good "traffic aware cruise control" on motorways or duel carriageways. Unless Tesla stop this dangerous system it will never be allowed. Tesla appear to be out of control currently rather like autopilot! Great video BTW!

[@yeahnoway111]

Autopilot is great and safe. I dont understand your point, If they just stop it it will never evelve to be 100% safe. Self driving cars are the future.

[@Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit]

The point is that AP allows itself to b used on minor roads but drives at 60 mph round bends where I would drive at 30 or less. It drives at full speed or too fast for the conditions.so unsafe!

[@spedracer55]

it wasnt really designed for the eu but this helps train the neural network

[@Muskar2]

Since I reside in tiny Denmark, it's something I've been wondering a lot about. Sure Tesla's neural network solution has promise in the US with similar road laws in a vast country - but in the EU the laws, markings, signs and general road behavior differ noticeably and the countries aren't that big, so how could you get enough data to cover all the edge cases without many more years of data collection?

[@spedracer55]

@@Muskar2 its gonna take time like all things new

[@Muskar2]

@@spedracer55 That's a truism - I just want to get an educated guess on the timeframe difference. I don't need a date or a year, I just want a qualified estimated rating of complexity versus solving the US.

[@edipires15]

it’s dangerous only if you drive on Autopilot without paying attention, I think that’s the reason of the UN regulation: it’s a driver’s aid, not an autonomous system, so the driver must still have control of the car at all times. I do agree though that there should be a exception while on a motorway, but in small roads there’s no excuse

[@joshuam20]

Edi Pires It is autonomous, it’s not full autonomy yet but it will be eventually.

[@IBasilisvirus]

no need to let fucking politicans to mess up with our technology.

[@edipires15]

Basilisvirus Instrector like they didn’t do with Boeing and its 737 Max?

[@purge98]

Thanks for taking my suggestion on board of putting Tippex on the wheel so we can see it turn.

[@TeslaDriver]

👍🏽 I’m not doing the tippex bit though 😂

[@PhonoDuck]

Dude! It’s not a dual carriageway! It has nothing to do with number of lanes. Only roads that have a break in the middle and have a central reservation are “dual” carriageway as in two roads. Check your Highway Code lolz.

[@mawoodmain]

There's no physical barrier between the two travel directions so that is not a dual carriageway is a single carriageway

[@mawoodmain]

Also it's not a 70... It's a 60

[@rj8u]

Honestly A lot of what you used the Navigate on Autopilot and autopilot is not is meant and by doing so your not doing justice for Tesla and Tesla community. The Tesla short seller do love your videos 👍. Just trade in your Model x for either a Audi Etron or Cadillac with Supercruise and get it over with. Navigate on autopilot in the U.S can only work on freeways and highways so how the hell are you expecting the system to work on city road 🙈. Blame your EU laws not Tesla seriously.

[@TeslaDriver]

Think you missed the point of the video. Also I’ve sold 13 Teslas through this channel alone this month... I’m Long on Tesla and this channel will show its rise 🎉

[@JGS2295]

FYI, the road you're on at 4:00 isn't a dual carriage way. A dual carriage way means there are two roads completely separated by either a non-road section like grass or an actual barrier. Therefore, the national speed-limit on that road is only 60 mph (as shown in your video) as opposed to 70 mph which is true of dual carriage-ways (Motorways being a special type of dual-carriage way).

[@Thomashorsman]

The error says “apply slight turning force” so I guess it wants you to slightly turn to the way you’re going

[@WilkuPainter]

it popped up when it was going straight tho

[@Thomashorsman]

Wolferain maybe to prepare for the turn so that it knows you’re ready to take over if needed

[@WilkuPainter]

@@Thomashorsman it doesn't see that far forward, it was on a long straight road. I think the new regulations just make it go wild from time to time and even a slight turn causes it to think it's going for a sharp turn any moment now and asks you to be ready

[@UKScenery]

Navigate on autopilot is a disaster in the UK. Causing all sorts of bugs and crash outs. If you get AP not available, don't stop and park, just use the 2 button reset while driving. I've had 2019.16.3 this morning, not much better. This may push Tesla to imprement better pretictive speed control, it's the lateral Gs thats the problem and the restriction.

[@edism]

Yes, lateral Gs nearly caused it to skill a cyclist. That makes perfect sense.

[@RayyanAshraf]

Owning a Tesla in UK is not that good than a Tesla in the US. It just ruins the autopilot experience.

[@coolfred9083]

America's roads (from what I've seen) are much better suited for autopilot than what we have here in the UK. The majority of the roads in my area don't have lines in the middle!

[@wannaberichlikeme]

Autopilot is a long way from Level 5 autonomy. And Elon Musk claims there will be robotaxis by the end of the year, is he crazy or something.

[@mindaugasrimdzius5463]

Yep,thinking same thing. There is no chance robotaxis will be available in a year or so..

[@wannaberichlikeme]

@@mindaugasrimdzius5463Agree no chance at all. 5 to 10 years minimum I think.

[@wannaberichlikeme]

@@neues3691 Agree he is just a clever salesperson like you say.

[@bibasik7]

As an American, what the f*** is a carriage way?

[@AkinaGhost]

It's a roadway, it should be pretty obvious.

[@MizaProductions1]

Latest update hugs the outer radius of the turns too much, almost hits others cars.. and when in slow traffic i feel like it got much more aggressive making it unpleasant stop and go, I have to take over since I feel like it goes fast then slows too fast, could make the person behind me rear end me. Before it was smoother.

[@JoshuaMichail0]

Maybe the car's apparent love of pulling to the right comes from the fact that Tesla is an American company. The software having been designed and developed in the US, even though an adjusted version for the UK and Australia is out there, perhaps there could be some legacy from America in the programming. You know, just that little something in the back of the system that just seems to like the right shoulder in America because that's the slow lane here.

[@joonalehtola]

Its 2019 and you don't still know that turning it off and on doesn't do shit?

[@hikaru9624]

I'm worried that cars like this will make bad drivers in the future.

[@megamaximpie]

I do think so, because when this type of car is fully developped people dont have to act and think for themselves anymore. Thus creating situations where people forget how to act when they need to intervene.

[@hikaru9624]

@@megamaximpie I can already hear the counter argument for our worries saying that by then self driving vehicles will be that good that there will be little to no need to intervene. And while that will be the case, it certainly isn't now and you still can't 100% depend on a computer to not fail at a critical moment. I can give an example right now (it's not the same but still). I have an xbox one x, a premium item, and it's hard drive is failing, Constantly giving me E105 and E101 errors when I try to restore it's operating system (I suspect this has gone over your head ^^; ). Now this isn't life threatening but imagine this happening in your self driving car....not good is it? Also it is a question of when, not if. That and there's a lot of people who enjoy driving their car too (and riding their bike). Also can the Telsa see horse riders? They're allowed to use the road after all!

[@megamaximpie]

@@hikaru9624 i see what you're saying. Been there btw. Already swapped out the hdd for a ssd. But were going a little off topic here xD. But while i certainly think that this is the future, im also certain that we always have to focus on the human aspect as well. Especially in trafic. Because after all we are the only ones who can take action when a system fails.

[@codemonkey2k5]

To speak to your initial issue of NOA turning off, I believe this has to do with new turn radius restrictions put in to effect for Tesla vehicles. If so, that is not a Tesla issue but a regulatory one.

[@gavilar5425]

After watching your videos I'm surprised there aren't more Tesla crashes on the news.

[@matmat2610]

yes, that's because they want to prove the new laws are good and safe-y, when, actually, they are not.

[@GibsonGaming]

Imagine everyone had fully autonomous cars, the states would lose Soooo much money on giving people tickets.

[@jam3106]

GibsonGaming Autopilot sucks if i can’t make it speed

[@Reinbeats]

It’s an American car company and American roads are a lot more simple than roads in EU. You can’t expect a car to do too much on weird ass roads

[@at0mlx]

Congrats on 40,000k subbed at 26,000

[@matthewv-d515]

Love the videos man one day I'd like to get a Tesla myself!!!!

[@droidvhm7]

Maybe some programming code from right hand was left in there

[@TraditionalAnglican]

I’d call any movie about SpaceX, Tesla & Tesla Power, “The Revenge of the Nerds”, Any movie based on this episode should be called, “The Empire (of the bureaucrats) Strikes Back”,

[@Ryan_Harkin]

No matter how many lanes a road has, if there is no physical center divider. It's still just a single carriageway.