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@bryanbrookes6366
@bryanbrookes6366 10 ай бұрын
Now the SNP needs to put in an offical vote of no confidence in against the speaker
@anonymoususerinterface
@anonymoususerinterface 10 ай бұрын
no such thing
@bryanbrookes6366
@bryanbrookes6366 10 ай бұрын
@@anonymoususerinterface well there should be,
@dhall5785
@dhall5785 10 ай бұрын
The Scottish people are set to put in an official vote of no confidence in the SNP. Absolutely useless. Bone idle careerists who have done absolutely bugger all for the people that lent them their vote. Squealing about Gaza and pitiful parliamentary theatrics to divert from their utter betrayal of Scottish people- they leave Scotland in a fucking mess and couldn’t give a shit
@MichaelJ44
@MichaelJ44 10 ай бұрын
Shows how much you know. You can’t put a no-confidence vote against the speaker
@royboy565
@royboy565 10 ай бұрын
What has happened in the past is the P M on behalf of the govt tells the speaker they have no confidence in him and he normally resigns
@jn4126
@jn4126 10 ай бұрын
How is this not corruption? Impartial should me your on side of the people, not the establishment. History will remember those who stood between Palestine and justice
@therichieboy
@therichieboy 10 ай бұрын
What establishment?
@jjefferyworboys8138
@jjefferyworboys8138 10 ай бұрын
But which people should the Speaker be on the side on, just the ones that share your views to the exclusion of all others ?
@Hal-zm7dq
@Hal-zm7dq 10 ай бұрын
The Palestinians have no standing in these countries and their appeals should be viewed as toilet paper. Let them return the hostages and renounce terrorism first. Such entitled narcissists. Losers as well.
@InternationalScot
@InternationalScot 10 ай бұрын
@@jjefferyworboys8138Do you agree that the Speaker should follow the rules and not lie? Are you capable of being mature just for a few seconds?
@royboy565
@royboy565 10 ай бұрын
​@@InternationalScotSpeaker didn't break any rules. He just didn't follow convention. The speaker doesn't have to follow convention, he can disregard precedents when he feels it is necessary.
@acsxdzght
@acsxdzght 10 ай бұрын
SNP GOT SCREWED AGAIN
@jjefferyworboys8138
@jjefferyworboys8138 10 ай бұрын
Made my day ! If the SNP didn't keep moving the goal posts they would have got their vote.
@glenwalker6973
@glenwalker6973 10 ай бұрын
What about labour… joke, the uk government are war mongers end off
@RedToriesBlueTories
@RedToriesBlueTories 10 ай бұрын
​@@jjefferyworboys8138What goalposts was that.
@maigepresents5840
@maigepresents5840 10 ай бұрын
The country got screwed.... by the Labor Friends of Israel... looks like the Juice owns the British parliament now...
@jmca3324
@jmca3324 10 ай бұрын
It made your day that a democratically elected Scottish party was silenced by a member of the Westminster Labour party. That he broke convention then lied to SNP matters not to you clearly.
@nastropc
@nastropc 10 ай бұрын
Last week Hoyle said “we can have an SO24, to get an immediate debate, because the debate is so important to this house.” If you’re the SNP, how can you not feel mugged off? How can you accept Hoyle continuing as speaker?
@ScottishRoss27
@ScottishRoss27 10 ай бұрын
Its Westminster telling Scotland we don't have any say, Westminster making the case for independence for us and it doesn't even realise it.
@MrWiwl
@MrWiwl 10 ай бұрын
Because it's being brought to the floor by the government tomorrow. The SNP as all political parties just want to use their weight for soundbites and gotchas. It was denied becuase oft he timeliness factor - it was discussed last week and as I said it's being brought for discussion tomorrow in the order of business. Why would you then grant an SO for discussion when it is already factored into the business.
@ChrisMurray-iw9ij
@ChrisMurray-iw9ij 10 ай бұрын
​@@ScottishRoss27 someone has to remind you, isreal isn't going to listen either
@billyc.andrew7286
@billyc.andrew7286 10 ай бұрын
​@@ChrisMurray-iw9ij The people of some nations believe in justice and also in being on the right side of history. Scotland's govt acknowledge this in the current circumstances.
@ChrisMurray-iw9ij
@ChrisMurray-iw9ij 10 ай бұрын
@@billyc.andrew7286 Palastine government surrendered today the war is over
@Jericho642
@Jericho642 10 ай бұрын
How f***ing ironic is it that the best person in the House of Commons represents a party that wants to leave the UK. I have a ton of respect for Stephen Flynn; he’s doing great work
@robertandrew5768
@robertandrew5768 10 ай бұрын
You're language is befitting of someone who respects another ned.
@Jericho642
@Jericho642 10 ай бұрын
@@robertandrew5768 how predictable that you don't know the difference between "you're" (you are) and "your". Classic...
@Muskoviterebel
@Muskoviterebel 10 ай бұрын
​@Jericho642 how pedantic are you...
@johnnyparkinson9431
@johnnyparkinson9431 10 ай бұрын
Don't be fooled. He's just doing it for political gain, to attack the Labour Party. Who of course are the SNP's only rivals at the upcoming election. Flynn is as bad as the rest of them, if not worse. Gullible SNP supporters lapping it up of course.
@billyc.andrew7286
@billyc.andrew7286 10 ай бұрын
​@@robertandrew5768 Cursing, any social scientist or psychiatrist will tell you, is an indication of high intelligence, but I'd be most surprised if you were familiar with this fact.
@cometmoon4485
@cometmoon4485 10 ай бұрын
What a disgrace.
@therichieboy
@therichieboy 10 ай бұрын
⅔ of our cheese is imported. THAT is a disgrace!
@billyc.andrew7286
@billyc.andrew7286 10 ай бұрын
​@@therichieboy _The Mad Cheese Lady,_ Truss, currently talking drivel on stage, during her US tour.
@HadaHussProductions
@HadaHussProductions 10 ай бұрын
She fixed the pork market tho funny since she's a 🐖
@AA-hg5fk
@AA-hg5fk 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle must resign, his behaviour is outrageous!
@BladedFish
@BladedFish 10 ай бұрын
Don't be absurd. He's following the rules of SO24. If the government were not making a statement on the matter the very next day, it would be a different story. But they are, so it isn't.
@davidclarke1705
@davidclarke1705 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle position is untenable and I have always liked him, but when blamed his decision on white extremist, not on being bullied by Labour and Muslim extremism.
@InternationalScot
@InternationalScot 10 ай бұрын
@@BladedFishNo he isn’t. It’s a joke of a parliament - a braying hole full of public schoolboys on the make.
@boxtradums0073
@boxtradums0073 10 ай бұрын
@@BladedFishoh look rules only exist for Scottish people
@alerojas2952
@alerojas2952 10 ай бұрын
​@@BladedFishnitwit
@jonsmith5058
@jonsmith5058 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle: ‘I made a mistake, here’s how you can fix it’ SNP: ‘ok we did what you said’ Hoyle: ‘yeaaah no, we already discussed that in the vote I stole from you’
@harleyb7880
@harleyb7880 10 ай бұрын
Israeli controls the parliament
@gothicgolem2947
@gothicgolem2947 10 ай бұрын
Idk about stole if the tories had not withdrawn there would have been a vote on their motion
@rbslammed6163
@rbslammed6163 10 ай бұрын
@@gothicgolem2947you absolutely know it was stolen
@harleyb7880
@harleyb7880 10 ай бұрын
Israel are in control
@gothicgolem2947
@gothicgolem2947 10 ай бұрын
@@rbslammed6163 by the tories maybe
@ProfessorChomsky
@ProfessorChomsky 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle is an absolute disgrace.
@therichieboy
@therichieboy 10 ай бұрын
Yes Liz
@KarakuraNinja
@KarakuraNinja 10 ай бұрын
He also went to israel and hanged with Tzippi and did the propaganda tour. His father founded labour friends of israel too turns out. Not a British civil servant, should be removed.
@Ajalemes
@Ajalemes 10 ай бұрын
​@@KarakuraNinjaI can't find anything about his father founding the LFI, do you have a link?
@katieoumanssour
@katieoumanssour 9 ай бұрын
@@Ajalemesa quick google search brings up loads of
@katieoumanssour
@katieoumanssour 9 ай бұрын
@@Ajalemes Google it! It’s well documented and came out of his own mouth during the speech he gave at his visit in October.
@therandomoguy3809
@therandomoguy3809 10 ай бұрын
Our system is a fucking joke.
@shadowside8433
@shadowside8433 10 ай бұрын
It's easy to play any system against itself with bad faith actors like Flynn, Johnson etc
@The1RedRooster
@The1RedRooster 10 ай бұрын
Is it not more of a "Joke" that those MP's who speak OUT about the treatment of Human Beings in Israel by their security forces are ran-out of office by the Party Leader? I'm talking about multiple MPs in Labour Party who are wrongfully dismissed by the Party Head because of their (fair) criticisms.
@Ofelas1
@Ofelas1 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle member of Labour Friends of Israel
@AceBanana100
@AceBanana100 10 ай бұрын
Its not that good
@gothicgolem2947
@gothicgolem2947 10 ай бұрын
How?
@martinherts1967
@martinherts1967 10 ай бұрын
Politicians are laughing and sneering at the public.
@markmorrid8144
@markmorrid8144 10 ай бұрын
The indigenous public.
@custardstuff5178
@custardstuff5178 10 ай бұрын
They have been for a decade
@Jojohumf
@Jojohumf 10 ай бұрын
@@markmorrid8144indigenous 🤣
@mrnice7570
@mrnice7570 10 ай бұрын
Having ruined the lives of 60 million Brits, now they're worried about their safety. And so they should be
@ryanclarke6612
@ryanclarke6612 10 ай бұрын
“Sorry, we can’t do it today because I bottled it. Will do it another day.” “Not feeling it anymore. Sorry.” People are dying every day this shambles fumble the ball.
@royboy565
@royboy565 10 ай бұрын
What's people dying every day in a far off country got to do with a symbolic motion in British parliament?
@TessTearoe-zp5xv
@TessTearoe-zp5xv 10 ай бұрын
Because if a power does it there, a power can do it anywhere to anyone.
@furyiv
@furyiv 10 ай бұрын
​@@royboy565 we have a duty to the middle east given the fact that this crisis is OUR creation.
@Emma-kz3zr
@Emma-kz3zr 10 ай бұрын
​@@royboy565 what's symbolic about ceasing arms trade with Israel?
@ticktock79
@ticktock79 10 ай бұрын
Serious question: what can we do?? The motion is just a strongly worded letter sent to people who won't read it or care
@elochai81
@elochai81 10 ай бұрын
After this Hoyle hasn't got a goddamn leg to stand on, his position is untenable and he should have gone when he was bending over backward and turning a blind eye to what Boris was getting up to. At the very least the SNP should have had their count put back to three and taken one from labour after the sham he committed.
@BrianWright70
@BrianWright70 10 ай бұрын
I'm shocked that the son of the founder of Labour friends of Israel is against any criticism of Israel......
@isotropisch82
@isotropisch82 10 ай бұрын
I'm no friend of Israel, or fan of Hoyle, but "the founder" is an overstatement, apparently Doug Hoyle "helped found" LFI... not sure what that means, but he was only 27 at the time LFI was founded and not an MP, so it sounds like it was said by L Hoyle to bolster his "I'm not an anti semite" credentials, for whatever reason he considered that necessary.
@jonstclair3290
@jonstclair3290 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle is a genocide enabler... england is truly in i-sraels pocket
@sineadadamus2099
@sineadadamus2099 10 ай бұрын
💯
@TheBlingting
@TheBlingting 10 ай бұрын
Israel is a foreign power with a dreadful human rights record. It's outrageous that a group supporting it exists within the party at all and it should be disbanded.
@TheBlingting
@TheBlingting 10 ай бұрын
Israel is a foreign power with a dreadful human rights record. It's outrageous that a group dedicated to supporting it exists within the party at all and it should be disbanded.
@donttrip8282
@donttrip8282 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle is compromised, this goes way beyond his usual levels of uselessness.
@thorny__gooses
@thorny__gooses 10 ай бұрын
Insanely proud of the SNP for standing up to genocide and having a moral code. Stephen nails it yet again, the resilience makes me happy I’m Scottish
@Altashheth08
@Altashheth08 10 ай бұрын
Proud? Really, they’re unhappy that the house has unanimously backed calling for a ceasefire… surely you would proud if they were celebrating rather than playing party politics?
@mikeh5656
@mikeh5656 10 ай бұрын
Equally as proud of Israel for dealing with terrorism, and to Keir for having a backbone and not bowing down to the Muslim vote
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 10 ай бұрын
Labohr effed over a represe tatives of the people becahse you dont like Israel being criticised for war crimes ​@@Altashheth08
@The1RedRooster
@The1RedRooster 10 ай бұрын
@@Altashheth08Quote: they’re unhappy that the house has unanimously backed calling for a ceasefire" end-quote. No, that is not what they are unhappy about......... I truly believe that those Under the age of 18 have NO Right to talk about Adult issues (as the 08 in your username suggests).
@harleyb7880
@harleyb7880 10 ай бұрын
Yet nothing will be done because Israel are in charge of the UK parliament
@7rich79
@7rich79 10 ай бұрын
So when can they have a debate on the standing order? In due course, Humphrey. At the appropriate juncture. In the fullness of time. When the moment is ripe. When the necessary procedures have been completed. Nothing precipitate, of course.
@TessTearoe-zp5xv
@TessTearoe-zp5xv 10 ай бұрын
Of course they had procedures when they stole SNPs motion. We know how trust worthy they are, NOT
@michaelprobert4014
@michaelprobert4014 10 ай бұрын
Didn't he say it was happening tomorrow?
@EtoileLion
@EtoileLion 10 ай бұрын
​@@michaelprobert4014Not the question being asked. A standing order cannot directly be debated, but a motion to amend the standing orders can be made. Course the SNP wont be able to bring such a motion, it would be for the government to move it.
@billyc.andrew7286
@billyc.andrew7286 10 ай бұрын
SSDD.
@TessTearoe-zp5xv
@TessTearoe-zp5xv 10 ай бұрын
@@billyc.andrew7286 What does this mean?
@Mizpah5
@Mizpah5 10 ай бұрын
The Speaker must resign.
@billb7876
@billb7876 10 ай бұрын
better if he was removed and dealt with
@mdog111
@mdog111 10 ай бұрын
For anyone who is unaware, the speaker and deputy speaker are both members of Labour Friends of Israel.
@HelenaMikas
@HelenaMikas 10 ай бұрын
creeps of the worst order ..they'd sleep with the devil for profit
@PickleLily
@PickleLily 10 ай бұрын
With friends like that, who needs Hamas.
@Weejie2011
@Weejie2011 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle isn't, because he cannot have affiliation with his former party. Rosie Winterton is and she's also a member of Labour Friends of Palestine and the Middle East (check it out). I would suggest that you don't listen too much to the likes of George Galloway. You'll end up being unaware of the full story.
@badarttangent7786
@badarttangent7786 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle is corrupted. He needs to go
@ollyfirth4641
@ollyfirth4641 10 ай бұрын
Not really though. Please tell me how this decision highlights that?
@Altashheth08
@Altashheth08 10 ай бұрын
Corrupt? Wtf?
@JasperB12
@JasperB12 10 ай бұрын
Michael Martin was corrupted, Hoyle is far more honourable than him and Bercow
@adammitxhell2932
@adammitxhell2932 10 ай бұрын
His father chaired Labour Friends of Israel. the more you know.
@boxing1583
@boxing1583 10 ай бұрын
Because he's been Israel on many Vacations
@derekpbyrne
@derekpbyrne 10 ай бұрын
If the man had any sense of shame he should resign... he has single handedly shredded his only impartiality that he shouts about so much !! The HoC has descended into a circus by Bojo and the tories in the same way congress has by accordion hands and the GOP
@sayedyousif3156
@sayedyousif3156 10 ай бұрын
Shame on you, Hoyle
@SUNXV1
@SUNXV1 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle can stick to the rules today because Starmer says he can! Clearly, he is not fit for the office he holds.
@royboy565
@royboy565 10 ай бұрын
Speaker broke no rules. Try again.
@bengilkes7676
@bengilkes7676 10 ай бұрын
@@royboy565 So he was totally fair?
@royboy565
@royboy565 10 ай бұрын
​@@bengilkes7676He decided to allow all three votes for the safety of the M P s. Very fair I'd say.
@drago1943
@drago1943 10 ай бұрын
Oh please put the other record on will you.
@toriesdontgettazered7464
@toriesdontgettazered7464 10 ай бұрын
​@royboy565 no he didn't he allowed the tory and Labour motion at the expense of snp and what's worse it their day not labours
@plasmapizza2504
@plasmapizza2504 10 ай бұрын
That speaker has to be removed.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 10 ай бұрын
He'll only be removed if he goes against the Tories.
@royboy565
@royboy565 10 ай бұрын
He won't resign. And he won't go unless. the govt make a statement that they have no confidence in him.
@HelenaMikas
@HelenaMikas 10 ай бұрын
True and actually for 1) corruption 2) misuse of office and 3 ) inability to actually speak with clarity & truth
@manic2360
@manic2360 10 ай бұрын
...He should have Resigned.
@HelenaMikas
@HelenaMikas 10 ай бұрын
a stupid , arrogant unsuitable man minus common sense , honesty and ability to speak Out and be gone Mr Hoyle .
@paulcini5849
@paulcini5849 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle has strange priorities. Is he awaiting instructions from the President of Israel like Starmer
@patbassman8251
@patbassman8251 10 ай бұрын
No he's for instructions from Hamas .
@ScottishRoss27
@ScottishRoss27 10 ай бұрын
Ex Labour MP Lindsay Hoyle when interviewed by Jewish News... ''My father (former Labour MP Doug Hoyle) helped found Labour Friends of Israel.''
@Bagofnowt
@Bagofnowt 10 ай бұрын
​@@patbassman8251 That makes no sense in context. You do know that, right?
@EddieTheH
@EddieTheH 10 ай бұрын
​@@patbassman8251 Please explain the reasoning behind your reply, it's genuinely got me mystified.
@therichieboy
@therichieboy 10 ай бұрын
@@EddieTheH ​ their point is, this is a war between 2 peoples, not just a once sided offensive
@ashtar2305
@ashtar2305 10 ай бұрын
He has not explained why he accepted Keir allegations of threats as TRUE...was any physical evidence presented...
@lars2007
@lars2007 10 ай бұрын
Can’t have the U.K. condemning collective punishment and starvation of Palestinians in Gaza
@Monkey_slapping_keys
@Monkey_slapping_keys 10 ай бұрын
Nope as they are not a court.
@mattmatt4000
@mattmatt4000 10 ай бұрын
Virtue signalling
@blede8649
@blede8649 10 ай бұрын
​​@@Monkey_slapping_keysThen why are everyone and their mother asked to condemn Hamas ? They're not a court either aren't they ?
@tonycodolo
@tonycodolo 10 ай бұрын
What a disgrace. This will NEVER be forgotten or forgiven.
@royboy565
@royboy565 10 ай бұрын
Yes because every brit is discussing Gaza over their cornflakes. Not.
@tonycodolo
@tonycodolo 10 ай бұрын
@@royboy565 But maybe the rest of the Global South is discussing it over their cornflakes. I omitted to say I am not British.
@michaelprobert4014
@michaelprobert4014 10 ай бұрын
That's the spirit. Humankind will go far with that attitude. Incidentally, the Government has proposed the debate for tomorrow. The SNP and Conservatives working togetherr.
@jjefferyworboys8138
@jjefferyworboys8138 10 ай бұрын
@@tonycodolo The rest of the Global South also have more important things to discuss over their breakfast.
@tonycodolo
@tonycodolo 10 ай бұрын
@@jjefferyworboys8138 glad to see you still maintain your colonial character. But as has been said before, times they are a changing.
@J123Tilley
@J123Tilley 10 ай бұрын
The government, Starmer and this sad excuse of a man have shown how the uni-party operates.
@leighvaughton2740
@leighvaughton2740 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle; 'I have decided that it's better for me to keep my job and prevent any embarrassment to Starmer even if this means there will be more genocide. And also my Dad set up Labour Friends of Israel'. Politics doesn't get any lower than this.
@moiracneill6478
@moiracneill6478 10 ай бұрын
SO 24 application, its a private application... ? Standard Order, responsibility of Crown, does not fall into the ministerial purview ...? If its urgent...? The government is making a relevant statement tomorrow... ? He is deciding that the government can determine what can and when it will be debated in the House. If the government decides, tomorrow, to limit the house, after the government has made its statement, the parliament is no longer able to bring the peoples anti genocide voice into debate! Or into policy! What the F!
@markdavies143
@markdavies143 10 ай бұрын
Flynn just needs to eyeball someone and they shut up quickly, Hoyle on the other hand couldn’t control a toddlers birthday party. I’d say it’s time he did the honourable thing and stood down like an “honourable” gentleman 😂
@andrewharrison7767
@andrewharrison7767 10 ай бұрын
i'm mentally picturing jim carrey in liar liar, coughing into his hand mockingly every time hoyle says honourable
@dirtygunslinger9835
@dirtygunslinger9835 10 ай бұрын
A toddlers birthday party is carnage mate!
@rpw1013
@rpw1013 10 ай бұрын
Only problem is Hoyle is not an honourable gentleman.
@markdavies143
@markdavies143 10 ай бұрын
@@rpw1013 he’s not even a ‘closet’ Tory anymore. The Tory idea of sticking a northerner into the role of speaker was their effort at hiding their man
@zenzender3790
@zenzender3790 10 ай бұрын
This so shows how low British politics is going. And they won't hesitate throwing scottish people under the bus given the chance.
@martinbateman2467
@martinbateman2467 10 ай бұрын
So he lied to the house then!! He is a disgrace to the office which he currently holds
@ShopFloorMonkey
@ShopFloorMonkey 10 ай бұрын
Just another example of the mealy mouthed "the situation has changed" excuse. And a particularly egregious one, at that!
@vulbaby4989
@vulbaby4989 10 ай бұрын
RIP Aaron Bushnell, RIP Rachel Corrie. Free Palestine.
@munkeypuzzle5309
@munkeypuzzle5309 10 ай бұрын
Why are these not being reported on? I had no idea
@taxpayer1040
@taxpayer1040 10 ай бұрын
And Hind Rajab in memory of all the lost children - but never forgotten. What an absolute joke the Labour Party and their friends in the ‘media’ (e.g. Likud Broadcasting Co.) make this country look.
@vulbaby4989
@vulbaby4989 10 ай бұрын
@puzzle5309 In addition, an American woman wrapped herself in a Palestinian flag and set herself on fire in protest outside the Israeli Consulate in Atlanta on December of 2023. She was reported to be in critical condition. I'm not sure she is still alive.
@munkeypuzzle5309
@munkeypuzzle5309 10 ай бұрын
@@taxpayer1040 labour party?
@Weejie2011
@Weejie2011 10 ай бұрын
@@munkeypuzzle5309Rachel Corrie was killed more than two decades ago and it was widely reported at the time. Bushnell, indeed, seems to have very selective coverage. It was reported by the BBC, but not the Guardian.
@AbsoluteOldskoolHardcoreJungle
@AbsoluteOldskoolHardcoreJungle 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 more corruption than the 3rd world combined
@archiemcberry7102
@archiemcberry7102 10 ай бұрын
The Speaker is loyal to Sir Keir. Now Sir Keir must save his Speaker's job.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 10 ай бұрын
Wrong. Hoyle is 100% loyal to the Tories. He wants that peerage from Sunak, after all.
@Parkinson.
@Parkinson. 10 ай бұрын
@@jackdubz4247 If he's loyal to the Tories, why did he crack under the pressure from Labour's leadership last week?
@EddieTheH
@EddieTheH 10 ай бұрын
​@@jackdubz4247 Wrong, he's loyal to whoever is going to be in power for the next parliament.
@ewalk4692
@ewalk4692 10 ай бұрын
He's loyal to the Zionists in Israel, as are the Labour and Conservative parties. The current Islamaphobia/race thing with Anderson and Khan is a classic diversion which helps to take the spotlight off Israel.
@davidadams5116
@davidadams5116 10 ай бұрын
And Starmer is loyal to Blair. Watch Blair run Starmer if Labour win
@boxing1583
@boxing1583 10 ай бұрын
Everybody in the UK belives in Freedom Of Speech is important The pepple we pay 85k each for Wont debate topics
@michaelprobert4014
@michaelprobert4014 10 ай бұрын
Didn't e say they would do it tomorrow?
@toriesdontgettazered7464
@toriesdontgettazered7464 10 ай бұрын
​@michaelprobert4014 no
@AndrewLuke
@AndrewLuke 10 ай бұрын
Phone accident alright? They'll deal with it tomorrow? Tomorrow? How about last effing week? How many die a day in Gaza? Near a hundred I swear TFG The Commons moves with all the speed of a newly born Ocean quahog clam which thinks it has 500 years ahead of it, or a Sea Anemone moving 0.39 inches an hour. That's being generous.
@royboy565
@royboy565 10 ай бұрын
Our parliamentary decisions about ceasefires in other wars has no bearing on casualties or basically anything. So it's not important. It's just symbolic.
@andygardner5810
@andygardner5810 10 ай бұрын
"Whilst the decision is mine to take" Is he reading his own notes or did Starmer have someone type them
@SirWhig-esq.
@SirWhig-esq. 10 ай бұрын
I miss Betty Boothroyd, she was the best speaker. And ‘shouty mc’yells a lot’ Bercow, even if he was a bully, he knew how to do things right.
@manic2360
@manic2360 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle has been the weakest speaker in my lifetime............
@Bagofnowt
@Bagofnowt 10 ай бұрын
​@@manic2360what about Michael Martin?
@MegaMan01
@MegaMan01 10 ай бұрын
This is what a corrupt system does. We need to get all this changed. This is also why Scotland is better off being an independent state.
@Lucpol1986
@Lucpol1986 10 ай бұрын
Trouble is, many folk believe that a GE will solve the issues. If they believe that things will run differently under a different party, they are seriously and utterly deluded 👍🏾
@mrnice7570
@mrnice7570 10 ай бұрын
Once we have figured out how to build a ferry I'm sure learning to run a country will be easy and cheap....
@RichardWilliamsowdrick
@RichardWilliamsowdrick 10 ай бұрын
An absolute disgrace ! The Speaker has achieved the outcome, the "Friends of Israel" lobbied for!
@ashtar2305
@ashtar2305 10 ай бұрын
Fiend of Israel...Speaker
@therichieboy
@therichieboy 10 ай бұрын
You'd be interested to know that while British parliament is playing games and pretending to be significant, the real work is being done in Israel to bring this horror to an end. Only last night thousands of protesters in Tel Aviv were attacked by police and many arrested. Just remember, it's only the corrupt government and it's ultra right backers here that wants this war to continue.
@waterbearer4627
@waterbearer4627 10 ай бұрын
That is shocking, the speaker causes a mess, goes back on his word and now won't let them discuss a ceasefire. Wasn't he recently in Israel? How can he not be biased?
@snowyowel7961
@snowyowel7961 10 ай бұрын
We should not have a biased speaker of the house of commons. He is putting the undemocratic Labour Party first again. Keep Labour out of number ten seriously OUT.
@sarcasticstartrek7719
@sarcasticstartrek7719 10 ай бұрын
lol
@royboy565
@royboy565 10 ай бұрын
Yeah of course he is lol.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 10 ай бұрын
This is all the Tories' doing.
@manic2360
@manic2360 10 ай бұрын
I despise Starmer but not as much as I despise the tories..
@therichieboy
@therichieboy 10 ай бұрын
They're the only half decent option the country has, like it or not.
@andrewharrison7767
@andrewharrison7767 10 ай бұрын
strange that he's suddenly decided that standing procedures need followed to the letter - I'm amazed nobody laughed when he mentioned asking the clerks' opinion considering they openly warned him he was breaking convention last week
@HitchcockTheSnail
@HitchcockTheSnail 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle is the son of a founder of Labour friends of Israel and he had toured the Occupied Territories - says it all SMH
@therichieboy
@therichieboy 10 ай бұрын
you clearly have a full grasp of the situation, have listened to all sides comprehensively and with a level head, and have delivered a fair verdict.
@thebobbrom7176
@thebobbrom7176 10 ай бұрын
​@@therichieboy Instead of being patronising why not provide evidence to the contrary then?
@Weejie2011
@Weejie2011 10 ай бұрын
LFI was founded a decade before the Six Day War and 16 years before the Yom Kippur War. At that time, the Israeli Labour Party (still Mapai then) headed the Knesset under Ben-Gurion. The UK Labour Party had links with Labour movements across the globe. Although Mapai were not squeaky clean, you cannot conflate the situation then with the ultra far-right Likudnik led government today.
@KinderOG
@KinderOG 10 ай бұрын
What the actual fuck is going on with this Government? I genuinely thought I've seen it all until this. Fucking shameful. Hoyle needs to be gone.
@christophertagg2045
@christophertagg2045 10 ай бұрын
What do you expect from such a speaker. He is not only a disgrace but he says one thing and does the opposite. How can we trust such people to be in Parliament but then most them are "birds of the same feather".
@paulharris1502
@paulharris1502 10 ай бұрын
The Uniparty.
@W67w
@W67w 10 ай бұрын
Who really runs the UK that we can't even debate a ceasefire
@jjefferyworboys8138
@jjefferyworboys8138 10 ай бұрын
That's the problem, the SNP don't just want to discuss a ceasefire, they want to keep adding other things to the discussion.
@Patricia-sw3ek
@Patricia-sw3ek 10 ай бұрын
Israel
@17dragoncut
@17dragoncut 10 ай бұрын
Unbelievable
@realitycheck4086
@realitycheck4086 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it is not unbelievable.
@darkhorse505
@darkhorse505 10 ай бұрын
I also love that in “normal circumstances” the house wouldn’t even get any explanation as to why a vote gets rejected. Just, “because we said so”
@raylder6339
@raylder6339 10 ай бұрын
He’s got to go. The House of Commons waited long enough before last week, his arm’s being twisted and his excuses aren’t going to wash.
@timflatus
@timflatus 10 ай бұрын
This is being sat on from a great height. While Starmer and Hoyle are clearly complicit in this, I'm not sure they're driving.
@maigepresents5840
@maigepresents5840 10 ай бұрын
Yeah sure... let's all pretend like the Juice aren't in complete control of our parliament...
@Titus9508
@Titus9508 10 ай бұрын
Starmer - "Hi Isaac? I'm in a fix here and might offend my donors, what should I do?'
@therichieboy
@therichieboy 10 ай бұрын
antisemitic. I'm sure you don't mean to be but your words are. I hope you can one day understand why.
@royboy565
@royboy565 10 ай бұрын
​@@therichieboyHe won't.
@paulwilson2651
@paulwilson2651 10 ай бұрын
Scotland representatives ignored again. Time to leave that place for good!
@jjefferyworboys8138
@jjefferyworboys8138 10 ай бұрын
Perhaps they shouldn't try to change the purpose of the debate to suit their ever changing agenda.
@boxtradums0073
@boxtradums0073 10 ай бұрын
@@jjefferyworboys8138are the SNP the only party that engages in party politics, funny because is see Labour and their Tories do it every f’ing day but get they are English so different rules for them, right ? 🤢
@paulwilson2651
@paulwilson2651 10 ай бұрын
@ryworboys8138 That's the best you can come up wit? You obviously have no idea how the Wastemonster Parliament works . So pathetic!
@MAMA23141
@MAMA23141 10 ай бұрын
The police are not the problem. The government is the problem. The British MP Arthur Balfour and the British government should have thought through it more in November 1917 before importing the Zionism problem into Britain.
@johnavery3941
@johnavery3941 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle stuffs the SNP again..... he actually said an SO24 was the way forward. Is Starmer behind his back and speaking all this for him?
@moiracneill6478
@moiracneill6478 10 ай бұрын
So Scottish National Party wanted to debate Gaza situation, on their day, but the Labour Party went and pressured the speaker to give the day to Labour, who didn't focus on Gaza.. now, SNP, has asked for a day to debate, he says, it's not under the crowns purview, and its not urgent? So the emergency debate is denied? So, the government decides if the parliament can debate policies? And the speaker, saying the government will speak, on the matter tomorrow, that the government can ask the speaker to limit debate, means the point of view of the opposition is invalid? Shite! Complete shite
@HelenaMikas
@HelenaMikas 10 ай бұрын
If Gaza is not urgent then Hoyle is a danger to the already shambles of a Parliament
@MrGreen1314
@MrGreen1314 10 ай бұрын
This man is just appalling.
@jj66
@jj66 10 ай бұрын
He needs to show some integrity and resign immediately
@tkhan101
@tkhan101 10 ай бұрын
What do you expect? His father was Labour Friends of Israel.
@essealants3730
@essealants3730 10 ай бұрын
Spinless much, he should have hit the bricks last week. Now he should be thrown out forget resigning
@DizzyVizion
@DizzyVizion 10 ай бұрын
Well, if you ever wondered if the UK government values Israel more than Scotland, 'yes' is the unfortunate answer.
@kurtgodel5236
@kurtgodel5236 10 ай бұрын
What a joke. And during the Brexit debates they had the audacity to blame the chaos on the EU and the civil service.
@brennan.williams
@brennan.williams 10 ай бұрын
did he just say its none of our business?
@RealOGfikey
@RealOGfikey 10 ай бұрын
This guy is unbelievably corrupt.
@maigepresents5840
@maigepresents5840 10 ай бұрын
His father was one of the founders of the Labor friends of Israel... this man is a shill and a fraud. Needs to go
@rbslammed6163
@rbslammed6163 10 ай бұрын
If you are not willing to hold people accountable for their abuses then don’t act surprised when they continue to abuse it Hoyle should be entering the workforce but they let him get away with it and we see the results
@BunyanaRed1958
@BunyanaRed1958 10 ай бұрын
"However, the Speaker said that under Commons rules an emergency debate had to be on an issue ministers had responsibility for, and there must be no other way MPs could discuss it." BBC News....Is there not some responsibility with the fact that the Govt provide Israel with weapons ????????
@willbusn5683
@willbusn5683 10 ай бұрын
You are still blaming Tony Blair fir irak.damn if you interfere and damn if you don't. Stay out of it.
@dendenju
@dendenju 10 ай бұрын
what a disgrace
@andyfry745
@andyfry745 10 ай бұрын
Who does he think he is? Outrageous and time for him to go
@alistairangus7216
@alistairangus7216 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle, hiding behind a rule book that he ripped us last week - just go!!
@logann001
@logann001 10 ай бұрын
Its a big club..and you ain't in it.
@crazyrobots6565
@crazyrobots6565 10 ай бұрын
Lol right at the very end 3:32 "hey, did you try to call me before?" "That was an accident"
@timelessxp
@timelessxp 9 ай бұрын
thank you for speaking out and standing up for peace, justice and security
@Todischo
@Todischo 10 ай бұрын
I think Hoyle is a decent person in a difficult position. However, he is in out of his depth in this role, and once again it's Stephen Flynn speaking sense and showing us how broken and archaic our political system is.
@muzammal-h
@muzammal-h 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle is in the grip of Israel.
@royboy565
@royboy565 10 ай бұрын
Don't be fooled. Flynn is just playing politics with this. He is annoyed because he wanted to show the splits in the vote from the Labour Party. He couldn't care less about Gaza or Israel.
@AmyAmy-ob7vi
@AmyAmy-ob7vi 10 ай бұрын
Discrasful he has lost all creadabilty and is no longer worthy to be the speaker of the house he mirrors the weakness and decit of this parlement and should retire from his role as speaker of the house
@warrenpaine
@warrenpaine 10 ай бұрын
It's time for the Scots to do what their Irish cousins did a century ago and declare independence from London. They have no real power in that Westminster parliament.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 10 ай бұрын
The damage is already done. Once again the anti-Scotland unionists close ranks. I would expect nothing less from the English parliament.
@michaelprobert4014
@michaelprobert4014 10 ай бұрын
They are getting a debate the day after this was raised. In the meantime this "English " Parliament can have it's laws for England blocked by Scottish MPs. It's swings and roundabouts.
@ScottishRoss27
@ScottishRoss27 10 ай бұрын
@@michaelprobert4014 The English Government scrapped its EVEL (English Votes for English Laws) as turning the union parliament into the English parliament squatting in the union parliament was a gift to the Scottish Independence Movement.
@not_ever
@not_ever 10 ай бұрын
If you think Westminster represents the English, you really do not know anything about the UK or England. Westminster represents a certain class and wealth category of person at the expense of all others in the union.
@salopian4037
@salopian4037 10 ай бұрын
@@ScottishRoss27 No such thing as an English Goverment. We are denied that, unlike all you lot.
@FlaviadaRocha-c5m
@FlaviadaRocha-c5m 10 ай бұрын
Very important to keep the Scottish traitors under firm control. Abolish the Scottish Parliament, return all authority to Westminster ans insist that we have a single UNITED KINGDOM.
@SD-tj5dh
@SD-tj5dh 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle mugging off the scots harder than Edward Longshanks
@JCL-n7y
@JCL-n7y 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle has to go and even if I was English I'd find it hard to vote for Starmer.
@thebobbrom7176
@thebobbrom7176 10 ай бұрын
So he's become a dictator right?
@andybrown4284
@andybrown4284 10 ай бұрын
If the decision is indeed his and the apology actually meant anything he'd be setting the date for this wednesday. However the apology didn't relate to his reasons given for screwing the SNP and his ability to make decisions unaided is highly suspect. It'll be accepted once IDF troops have stormed rafah for the final phase of netenyahu's genocide which he's announced as coming in march
@patbassman8251
@patbassman8251 10 ай бұрын
The only genocide was on October 7th.
@Britishrailwaystories
@Britishrailwaystories 10 ай бұрын
Why tell them they can do it under an SO24 if you’re then going to turn around and say no it can’t be done? Absolutely manufactured to prevent an actual vote and debate on Gaza. Absolutely disgusting.
@davidmatthews9088
@davidmatthews9088 10 ай бұрын
That speaker has blood on his hands.
@royboy565
@royboy565 10 ай бұрын
How?
@plasmapizza2504
@plasmapizza2504 10 ай бұрын
He has blood on his hands
@davidsmith5523
@davidsmith5523 10 ай бұрын
BecUse the ceasefire was voted on and passed? Whose blood?
@royboy565
@royboy565 10 ай бұрын
​@@davidsmith5523when he cut himself shaving I think he means.
@sarcasticstartrek7719
@sarcasticstartrek7719 10 ай бұрын
Nah he doesn't. Even if the SNP got their debate and sent a strongly worded letter to hamas, nothing would change. Israel isn't going to listen. It's all a charade anyway.
@therichieboy
@therichieboy 10 ай бұрын
Blood on his hands? Extreme much?
@jjefferyworboys8138
@jjefferyworboys8138 10 ай бұрын
I never worry about such trivial things.
@RichardFraser-y9t
@RichardFraser-y9t 10 ай бұрын
When is the next opportunity for an opposition motion?
@andrewharrison7767
@andrewharrison7767 10 ай бұрын
depends upon if you mean labour or snp - snp only get 3 a year, which is part of the anger
@BillY-tw8xc
@BillY-tw8xc 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle is a sell out. He should not resign he should be removed!
@SharmanSomerset
@SharmanSomerset 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle seriously needs to step down
@nickywellman594
@nickywellman594 10 ай бұрын
The house is rotten to its core
@upahill23
@upahill23 10 ай бұрын
MPs are not driving the bus, this is a Whitehall stitch-up. Hoyle is a disgrace.
@eimkei1339
@eimkei1339 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle made a 'mistake' but he has no intention of taking the opportunity to remedy his error. In other words it was not a 'mistake' it was what he intended doing and it got Starmer off a very barbed hook whilst achieving little, if anything, else. Imho that's three Speakers in succession who have failed the traditions of the HoC. Let's have a GE and make it known to all candidates that a replacement Speaker is the first requirement.
@khyron8509
@khyron8509 10 ай бұрын
If the government wish to discuss a similar motion why oh why can't you just agree to allow the SNP's SO24 to go ahead it makes zero sense to keep on antagonising Scotland's representatives in Westminster and by dint Scotland's people, it just beggars belief.
@shutup2751
@shutup2751 10 ай бұрын
Stephen Flynn is a much better speaker than Humza Yousaf why is he not SNP Leader ?
@not_ever
@not_ever 10 ай бұрын
He declined to run for leadership and endorsed Humza.
@murdomaclachlan
@murdomaclachlan 10 ай бұрын
And also because being a good speaker is not the sole metric that dictates whether someone is a good leader.
@andrewharrison7767
@andrewharrison7767 10 ай бұрын
because he didn't stand for it
@shadowside8433
@shadowside8433 10 ай бұрын
I think he's a nasty piece of work, but then again so are most of them.
@robertandrew5768
@robertandrew5768 10 ай бұрын
Because he did not tick the right box.
@communityheart8116
@communityheart8116 10 ай бұрын
STOP THE GENOCIDE
@therichieboy
@therichieboy 10 ай бұрын
where?
@dianeglanville
@dianeglanville 10 ай бұрын
this speaker needs to go and take the rest of is cronies with him bye bye
@farhanahmad6316
@farhanahmad6316 10 ай бұрын
Supporting the starvation of children. Then these people lecture the world about human rights and animal rights and equality and diversity and freedom. Hypocrites.
@BadgerOfTheSea
@BadgerOfTheSea 10 ай бұрын
Crazy that a former member of Labour Friends of Israel who not long before becoming speaker went on a "solidarity trip" to Israel is now using his power to deny debates calling for Israel cease fire. I wonder what his reasons are.
@upontheroof
@upontheroof 10 ай бұрын
Hoyle making the case for Scottish independence
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