Invicta Skeleton Watch Repair and Service.... I don't Like Invicta....

[@rodneymoorehead7921]

Enjoyed watching your teardown and rebuild of this watch. I ended up getting an Invicta 25341 watch while on a cruise back in 2018. My previous daily wear watch broke while on the trip, and I got the Invicta on clearance, so it wasn't a huge investment. It became my new daily wear watch, and performed better than expected for a few years. Then it started running fast, like an hour+ in a 24hr period. It was still under warranty, so I called to inquire about servicing. Long story short, they said I wasn't winding it enough, and the movement was running faster as the spring unwound. I followed their instruction to wind twice as many times as recommended in the manual, and that worked for about another year (past the end of the warranty). Now, with a full winding, it will stop completely in a little less than 12hrs. I'm guessing that the directed overwinding stressed out part of the mechanism, and now that it is out of warranty, the cost of repair is more than I paid for the watch. In doing a little research, it appears that I could get a replacement of the same movement (2650SSZ) for $17-$30 depending on the supplier. After watching your video, I'm pretty certain that I could swap out the movement, transfer the hands, dial, and reassemble without too much difficulty. My question to you would be, is there a better quality movement that will still drop in with ease, or am I stuck using this movement? Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have!

[@RCPrepping]

I collect Invicta watches. I buy them all on sale or on clearance. I like them. 👍 on your video. I enjoy hearing what others have to say about the brands I collect. I also collect Benyar, Casio, Citizen, G Gallant, Timex, and Victorinox.

[@hoodeez]

This whole video is just nitpicking

[@antoniobowie5088]

Zz

[@JayzBeerz]

Where are you located sir? I need my watch repaired?

[@scottborenstein8291]

I agree, I was taken in and bought a few which I don’t wear anymore. My first was a specialty GMT that was supposedly a Swiss Made Ronda quartz movement . It worked fine until the battery went dead. I took it to replace the battery and the movement was dead with the new battery and when she tipped the watch over to replace the batterie one of the hour markers fell off. The strap broke and couldn’t be replaced on another one. I think overall they are a scam and I wouldn’t buy another one. Invicta collectors have many,many watches, the sad thing about that is with the money they spent they could probably buy one awesome watch like a Omega.

[@Lemminjoose]

This is actually my first time s watching your channel! I'm a budding amateur watchmaker myself and have always had similar opinions on brands like Invicta. I really focus on vintage watches, but I like to keep up with content on the watch world in general.

[@cbody70]

While I agree Invicta has made some questionable decisions wrt their marketing and styling they continue to make some nice watches with good quality and at reasonable cost. I own a couple of such examples, the model 31290 "1953" and and model 8927OB. Both are Submariner "homages" with Seiko NH35A movements that keep excellent time and can be purchased between $100-$120 US. They have screw down backs and screw down crowns for good water resistance. In fact several KZbinrs have put them through their paces diving and pressure testing with no issues. My experience with them has been very positive.

[@MaximGhost]

In this case, I'm guessing the repair cost more than buying a brand-new Invicta watch. So, the customer must have had an emotional connection with that particular watch.

[@jetsonIFY]

Where could the missing letters have gone in the sealed up watch? A real eye opener regarding Invicta. Great work also!

[@gomd3rd]

This movement is not a good one. I have a hand-wind one, the sea spider that feels a lot more solid and well made. Some of the divers automatics have the nh seiko movement. You just have to know which ones to buy and at what price to get a good value.

[@JayzBeerz]

On my $500.00 Invicta Bolt Zeus the 1100 O’Clock fell off loose in the case now. Guess they use cheap glue. 😂

[@martinscopes3914]

Hi. You make it look so easy I enjoy watching it. I need to ask a question I can buy a INVICTA WATCH MODEL Reserve Magnum Zeus Tria Swiss Z60 chronograph Lume men’s watch. This watch has the main watch the at the bottom has two very small clocks every thing works and all 3-keep time the only thing is when the knob pulled out to move the hands the won’t move this is the small left hand side clock . Cold this be fix like some one as good as you or is it a invicta repair only. It must work off the watch battery. I have many invicta watches and never had a problem. I have a Ingersoll bison 54 or 58 it’s the big one with the red button I had so much trouble the main thing in side broke it was repaired then broke again and repaired the just after the warranty the two small hands pinged off I think because it was repaired so much that’s why they came off this was few years ago I still have it and I mite put them on my self it’s a automatic watch. It’s a nice watch the sold for £350 I got it brand new for £150. a good make like that and nothing but trouble zeon in London uk have never none it before . I have a few invicta watches and I do like them. Because this Invicta watch works buy the watch battery I would think it would have to be fix by Invicta I just thought are ask you if you don’t mind.thanks

[@headshot6959]

A note on installing the magic lever for the self-winding - it's easier to just place it in roughly the correct position on the train wheel bridge, the forks resting again in 'roughly the right position' but sitting on top and not snapped around the edge of the winding wheel. Loosely tighten the bridge down over it and rotate the winding rotor bearing manually until the cam finds the hole and it starts to 'move' the magic lever. Tighten a bit more then guide the forks to the edges of the wheel before tightening down all the way. Works for Seiko movements, no need for the oil and frustration.

[@N7492]

Those with the Seiko NH35A movement are mostly OK. Apparently Invicta watches are all over the map when it comes to quality control. And yes. Their marketing techniques are downright dodgy, and their after sale service leaves much to be desired. Just my 2 cents.

[@quig4800]

Hi Peter I wish I found this video of yours first. My first watch is a 20 year old Swiss Made Invicta. The new ones are garbage but I feel that they are affordable with machining marks and crap tolerances but if I can polish the outside and change the movement just to see if I can work on watches. If I screw up what did it cost me? I do know its putting lipstick on a pig but Im a machinist and a mechanic but have never worked on such tiny parts so thought if I can fix garbage to learn, why not. Thank You for your amazing videos Have a Great day Jimmy Q

[@davidcrandall4958]

The" New Invicta" is more than 20 years old! You are suffering from A dangerous Mis understanding!

[@mickeydee3595]

Ive got a "swiss made" pro-diver with the selitta sw200 movement. Had it for a few years now, and when i bought it, it was "old stock" and it has been pretty good imho. Its a shame they dont make the swiss made ones anymore...

[@davidcrandall4958]

They still make the ProDiver with the Sellita movement! It is available on SHOP HQ now( not qvc)

[@stevenmuscari1002]

Thanks for the awesome commentary with bakround. Maybe show doing the prodiver next.

[@cringram1003]

Was there a crystal gasket? Also why didn't you apply silicone grease to the case back gasket?

[@me-cq7wv]

Never heard of them myself but good video and thanks for posting

[@jimcricket1]

Yes, I do need some watches repaired and a few chains designed for them but I don't have Facebook and don't know how to contact you.

[@hendlers7071]

A great work as always - thanks a lot

[@mrmagoo.3678]

I have a 9937ob Pro-diver with swiss sellita sw200-1 movement.. it has a thinner case than the standard pro-diver @ 12mm (including smaller "invicta" engraving), a upgraded bracelet with thicker solid links, solid end links and a milled clasp..it has their "flame-fusion" cyrstal (thin slice of synthetic sapphire fused to mineral i think) .. I paid $170 for this.. I have other watches and this sits easily with the $500 and up mob.. I love this watch tbh.. never missed a beat, held together perfectly over its time.. haven't got one complaint.. could do with a ceramic insert and sapphire crystal but @ $170 with swiss auto etc this is a absolute bargain. deffo not the normal Pro-Diver and I've brought myself a insert and crystal to upgrade it.. cant wait! lol

[@jeffpaunicka6657]

Great commentary on the watch. Thanks again

[@davidcrandall4958]

What is your opinion on the NH35A that is in most of the Invicta Automatics still? I would appreciate your opinion! What Do you think of the ProDiver with the Sellita movement and the Grand Divers! at 300 meters? Please Tell us your opinion on those!

[@American-Motors-Corporation]

Frankly not very few people who want a mechanical watch. We all hot cell phones. I have an invicta i bought back in 21 fir my wedding it still runs great, i don't wear it a bunch but i don't wear a watch in general unless im dressing up for something.

[@scottcre1249]

The research I did says Rolex is the parent company of Invicta. Several other watch brands as well.

[@garywallace5899]

Wow

[@michaelrichardson484]

I’m surprised after cleaning you did not lubricate anything as other watch repair videos all show. You also forgot to mention what happened to the letters on the watch face.

[@thejupiter2]

So far as one can tell is the only reason that you hate the Invicta brand is because they took it away from the dealer network which deprived you of some sales and some profit. Good for Invicta I say and good for the consumer. They can now enjoy owning a remarkable timepiece without the huge dealership markup. Furthermore to make your point you use the worst possible example of an Invicta. That watch is sub $100. It would have been cheaper to throw it away and buy a new one than throw good money for a watch maker to repair it. As a watchmaker myself I'd have frankly refused to repair it. Today the Invicta brand offers exceptional value for money and their homages are amongst the best I've seen. Wherever possible Invicta use Miyota and Seiko movements, which for the money offer exceptional performance. This video is morally dishonest!b

[@survivalSC]

So you want to control his option of a brand. He did not lie and he said it was how he felt from his experience with the company. And to call Invicta a remarkable timepiece is amazing. It’s a budget brand at best today. I would say Omega is a remarkable timepiece just never Invicta lol. But we all have different ideas of items. That is what makes us all different

[@donaldm2582]

@@survivalSCand you want to control his opinion of Invicta lol

[@survivalSC]

@@donaldm2582 we all are allowed to have an option.

[@johnnybee6309]

So I actually liked this video, however I'm an Invicta fan. I do think some of what ur saying is right...I believe some of the cheaper watches r pieces of crap but the mids and higher grades r well put together! I also think the marketing strategy was actually spot on for what they were trying to accomplish, which is create mass appeal towards the lower and middle class! Being that I am a middle class person, but also someone who appreciates nice time pieces, I think Invicta is great for someone who was just starting their watch collection and didn't want to jump right into a more expensive watch brand...I definitely agree with the BS abt them ONLY making it exclusive repairs, that part sucks ass!! With that being said, looking forward to more of ur videos👍🏾

[@jrshaul]

Invicta's product is crap. Bad movements, bad engineering, bad QC, bad service, bad dealer network. Seiko will sell you a $90 watch that's supported almost as well as a $5,000 Grand Seiko. Yeah, it'll cost you about as much to service as it cost to buy...but it's well made and if you want parts, you can get them from Saginaw to Shizuoka. Y'know what's a cheap Swiss watch with some waterproofing and a decent movement? Calvin Klein. You're better off with the blue jeans brand.

[@johnnybee6309]

@@jrshaul I agree, I also a Seiko-mid cost me $180 or so. I love as much as my Invictas, so I understand! What I don't understand are ppl who talk abt the swiss movement or anything mechanical...I love my Time pieces bc they show off nice! Now if I have ANY time pieces that require maintenance costing more than the watch, I'll figure out how to sell it or maintenanced for cheaper... Again that's with any watch I own! I said Invicta is a nice brand for starters, not the cheaper end, u always go mid-grade!

[@goldslinger]

I’m a jeweler and I hate Invicta. They fall apart just replacing a battery. We won’t touch them. That’s what happens when investor groups call the shots.

[@LBCAndrew]

That's because you don't put them back together properly.

[@goldslinger]

@@LBCAndrew you mean screwing the back back on improperly?

[@dadtype2339]

So, if I am to understand you, it's Invicta's business model and standards to their customers you hate, as well as making cheap low grade watches. I can totally understand that. It's such a beautiful craft to be lost, watchmaker that is. I've worked on vehicles for 35 years and I can see how the two are similar in nature. I find it very fascinating and interesting. One of my other hobbies is scale modeling, been doing that for nearly 40 years, I light models and so I tell people I make really cool lamps lol. But being a watch collector I've should have gotten into this years ago, but Tempest Fugit says no Time like the present! I've got two really old Elgin pocket watches, one works, and one doesn't, (my Uncle over wound it and broke the crystal and hands are a crinkle mess) and I have several odd wrists watches from Storm which I guess isn't around anymore as it's hard to find info on them. Looking forward to learning more on watchmaking.

[@davidcrandall4958]

The moderator is pushing the negatives way out of proportion!What you just tried to ascertain is not True of every Invicta!

[@davidcrandall4958]

Dad Type. what He is saying is not entirely true! It's just the same old Invicta Haters Rap!

[@dadtype2339]

@@davidcrandall4958 on average I try to keep an open mind as there is always two sides to a story or two ends of a rope, I imagine there is always going to be a difference of opinion on a brand or product. There's things I like that some hate, and like too there are things I don't like that others love. Abraham Lincoln said it best, "You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time." But I thank you for you response, hope this finds you well.

[@phillyguy2157]

I have more than 20 Invicta watches. My favorite is the Subaqua Noma I I have 8 Subaqua Noma I watches but two had rubber or silicone bands and both broke rather quickly. Also the batteries don't last very long. All of the Invicta watches I purchased with rubber/ silicone straps all broke. Very disappointed. All of my Subaqua Noma Invicta watches have swiss movement. I think the more you pay for an Invicta watch it will be swiss movement. But you have to really pick and choose your Invicta carefully. I do think Invicta over sells it's brand and cheapens the brand. But again I really like my Subaqua collection.

[@waltergeorgio3278]

Fantastic video . i am a Invicta fan and some of their watches are very good.

[@Mio_15]

they're not lol

[@donaldm2582]

@@Mio_15 hahah. How’s the coping going? 10k on the fake Rolex got you down? 😂

[@emersorc]

I had an all titanium Invicta from the late '90s that was a half-decent watch with a Miyota movement. Most of their stuff today is crap and overpriced for what you're getting. If you want a reliable mechanical watch that's unique, buy something from a micro-brand with a Sellita, ETA, 9-series Miyota, or even a Seiko movement. For $400 - $600 you will be getting a much higher quality watch that will likely hold its value or possibly increase (if you ever want to sell it). RZE, Zelos, Aerotec, Herny Archer, and BOLDR are just a few to consider.

[@donaldm2582]

$59 is over priced? 😂

[@kevinparsons6211]

I have the older Invicta's From 2005 - 2013 All Swiss Made with COSC Automatic Movements. AND I only buy the Swiss Made watches with Swiss Unitas,Valjoux and ETA Movements. No Chinese Movements

[@jrshaul]

I've seen these for sale real cheap. Would you describe it as a good "learning" watch to take apart, attempt to clean and lubricate, and reassemble?

[@watchesandjewelry]

Yes. These are great watches to start with. I had a student that kept breaking my stock. Made him buy some of these for his practice and he finally figured it out. They are great tear down watches because you can see a lot of parts and not difficult to assemble.

[@amerikanskispy2915]

Wait. So… you don’t like invicta?

[@watchesandjewelry]

Lol.

[@davidcrandall4958]

This is just the same old Invicta Haters RAP! Yes They Do Still make the Pro Diver with the Sellita movement!

[@rajendrabareto8065]

Invicta watches are quiet good if not great ones.they proved to the world luxuary I'd affordable. They do not rip off customers. People who want to make money on luxuary watches and those who bought them hate Invicta. Invicta has considerably affected the luxuary watches market to a large extent. Invicta has hurt the replica industry.

[@ivananthony91]

I purchase one on a cruise in 2022 and now it is dead I wore maybe 3x

[@donaldm2582]

Battery change?

[@kryptonite166]

I believe every legitimate watch brand has a niche or purpose to serve. Cellular phones have replaced watches for the younger generation, which cut into the sale of watches. Any watch that peaks interest in wearing watches is good for low cost to expensive watches. I wore a Navitimer homage watch for 10 years, which inspired me to buy my Bretling Navitimer 46mm rose gold.

[@jrshaul]

People who buy a $150 watch and find it can't be fixed, can't be serviced, and fills up with water the first time you fall in a puddle ain't buying another watch. You want your kid to like watches, get 'em a Timex.

[@kryptonite166]

@@jrshaul A $150 watch denotes a disposable watch. A $300 TV is disposable. A cheap watch allows variety of choice. Mostly all entry level items with low cost are disposable and not repairable or the repairs cost more than the item.

[@jrshaul]

@@kryptonite166 I regularly repair

[@ryano.5149]

@@jrshaul Lack of water resistance doesn't necessarily mean poor quality. I have a vintage Gruen I wouldn't DARE get wet, and I've had a couple Timex watches die on me.

[@donaldm2582]

@@jrshaulmine lasted 10 years on my wrist swimming, showering, etc confused.

[@komitata1]

Why people expect to be buy invicta and have rolex

[@RockerfellerRothchild1776]

No one does ....smh

[@michaels8607]

Let us begin..First of all Invicta should have done the right thing by retailers,so that sucks. Now when it comes to MSRP, Invicta is only one of many that market watches at a high MSRPs, on sites like WatchMaxx. That means anyone only focusing on ONE company is an uninformed clown or total liar,as many companies sell gear that is NOT of good value. I have different watch brand yet my second GEn SeaHunter stays on in bed,shower and when I skate.I had a fall and the second hand came off, and they replaced the whole watch, and repaired it with no issues the second time.The thing that kills me is when folks make dumb comments about the watches yet have no facts to b back up their rants. I also think it's funny how folks can talk about watch sizes, yet they company sells them at an alarming rate, totally killing the opinions of a few. In other words, more often than not, the same folks who complain wear watches that do NOT have much volume sales, needing to charge insane prices to make up the difference. The bottom line for most is accurate time,not 'horology', which is a NICHE interest.I am heavily involved in IT, DJing, Audio, studio gear, professional photography, etc,etc,and most stuff is made in Taiwan, China,Vietnam,etc..Also,if you spending too much for Invicta or any other brand, that's only YOUR singular fault. This is the same exact issue between Behringer and several synth manufacturers...I bought Citizens and they never lasted..not one of them. They were NOT rugged and were the type you had to take off daily or not wear them while doing any sports /outdoor events....

[@Crownof12stars]

I am calling bullshit on your statement that not one of your so called citizen watches ever “lasted”. Were they quartz?. Needed a new battery?. Or did you buy them from india?. An got a india special?. If not, an they were genuine japanese made citizen watches, you had to be doing something very wrong for how ever many citizen watches kept breaking for you. Citizen is a top japanese watch maker. High quality time pieces. An if you wanted to wear a citizen in the shower all you had to do was a buy a 10 bar model. You just mis informed yourself, an purchased the wrong model for your life style or needs or wants from a watch.

[@Crownof12stars]

I wear a japanese watch. Orient star. It goes in the shower with me all the time. Why?. Screw down crown an 20 bar. Watch is very accurate. An built to last. Every single japanese watch ive owned not one problem. I make sure to use it correctly an right. No problems will occure. I can guarantee this watch will still be able to shower with me 10 years from now. Will not need to service it until 15 years later. That is how good japanese watches are.

[@michaels8607]

@@Crownof12stars blah blah blah yet i am sure Citizen never hired you,so you hug their nuts for free...Good job princess..

[@donaldm2582]

@@Crownof12stars can’t argue that! Had a citizen that lasted me 15 years and I put it through the meat grinder with use before it finally gave up. Travel, swimming, gym, weight lifting, sports, and just about any activity in between. And only cost me $250. It barely came off ever in 15 years. I bought another Citizen from Costco this year for $300 and it’s my Mr Reliable. I do like to change it up sometimes and the Invicta’s from a style standpoint and I figure if they don’t last as long as my Citizen I’m not out a ton of money.

[@heraclesreborn]

The current Invicta ownership has destroyed the brand. Some of the older Unitas movement based watches are nice.

[@DocWat280]

And Rolex and their AD"s are sooooo reputable. 👌

[@RC-ox9yx]

Rolex watches are way overpriced for what you're getting. You pay dearly for all their marketing. Their AD's really take the cake. Why should I have to wear a suit and try to impress them, only to be put on a waiting list. They artificially create a shortage of timepieces, so the secondary market can sell them for twice the MSRP! Grand Seiko blows Rolex, out of the water for the quality you get for the price.

[@jimcricket1]

It started with Rockefeller and his partners' monopoly of the US currency with the 1913 federal reserve act to eliminate all their competition. They use bureaucracy and their banking(political) allies to create monopolies like Rockefeller and his father in law senator Aldrich. This happened to me with Sony in the 90s. Exclusive dealers must meet certain criteria like having so much product in stock and on display, certified techs or distance from another Sony dealer. Then they change the rules, Costco goes around the distributor in the state and buys direct, in bulk, selling for less than our cost. Most people can't look ahead 1 week, much less 10 or 20years. Fast forward 30 years and products and services are scarce and many items are only available through Amazon and not repairable, instead they are disposable Chinese junk because the banks have sucked America dry .

[@survivalSC]

What product were you selling that Costco was selling cheaper then your cost?

[@jimcricket1]

@@survivalSC Sony amplifiers, VCRs and TVs.

[@peterkolovos3079]

I have over a dozen of these watches and they serve me quite well. They look great, feel very well made, keep great time, plus the price is right. If one ever fails me, I'll toss it out and buy a replacement. You snobs that hate Invicta are morons.

[@donaldm2582]

The cope of them paying 20k for a watch is entertaining though!

[@jimmy2060]

thats because you have more money then sense

[@alistairdavidson2497]

After all that good work and the owner wouldn’t fork out for a new face. Seems senseless to me.

[@DanielGarcia-pp1yg]

this is a horrible video. the whole time all you are doing is complaining about the Invicta watch. Just post "Flame Video about Invicta" instead of acting like you are going explain to us what you are doing on how to fix the watch.

[@HCJServices]

Just like Rolex

[@LBCAndrew]

and 1/200 the price.

[@amandagelien9612]

A waste of time and $

[@scaira60]

Yea I got suckered watching shop HQ & Bought a dozen or more Invicta watches over 10-15yrs ago for myself & my wife. the automatics I bought were supposed to be Swiss movements, They are all Japanese movements in my case. I had 2 of the silicone straps that literally just snapped in half after 6 months, Invicta would not warranty them, & they wanted $60 ea for new strap. They are all Junk in my opinion.... Thanks for your vids👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸👨🏻‍🦯👨🏻‍🦯

[@donaldm2582]

Japanese have some of the best movements. And silicone bands are easily replaceable at a discount. Pretty broad brush to find them all “junk” lol

[@nicolasflorez9078]

Maestro