Did Breitling Copy Rolex? | Watchfinder & Co.

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[@charles_the_elder]

I really don't see much copying of a Rolex. It's a fairly unique design.

[@almac9203]

it does look like a Rolex with some Tudor. It is handsome but there is nothing original about the design.

[@clo2715]

It reminds me of the CITIZEN PROMASTER 200M GMT Diver BJ7111-86L

[@a3marketing991]

Agreed

[@Domowoi2]

That's just for clicks

[@JamesAlexander14]

@@almac9203 Absolutely. I couldn’t see any similarity between the two.

[@petrokersta5293]

Any dive watch that is not a supercompressor case will have a rotating bezel. Rolex Submariner is an icon no doubt. Blancpain Fifty Fantoms and Zodiac Sea Wolf were amongst the first dive watches introduced along with the Submariner in 1953. Yet no one would compare modern divers to those.

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

50 fathoms was earlier than the submariner. It came first

[@watcheswithabdullah]

A Seiko 5's basic automatic movement is also 'fine'. But at the price Breitling's asking, I think the people would want a little more than just 'fine' 😂Great discussion as always btw!

[@reudigerrudiger6452]

Thats right, if i spend more than 2k on a watch i want a inhousemovement.

[@Jeepsteve1982]

It technically is in house and it's COSC

[@PONOVO1000]

@@reudigerrudiger6452and what benefit do you have with in house movement? 😂

[@artsohc]

My issue with the price is that it’s still higher than an Omega SMP which has an infinitely better movement.

[@vincej3573]

Movement here is seriously disappointing

[@jasonhall10]

I can’t agree more. I loved the old version and feel like they’ve made it worse for more money. No reason to buy this over an SMP.

[@ahmed-A.112]

a tudor is nicer

[@jasonhall10]

@@ahmed-A.112 Totally! You can get a BB GMT with a more complicated movement and longer power reserve for the same price.

[@Bredes1]

@@jasonhall10 actually a thousand dollar less

[@vintageswiss9096]

$5,000 for this ETA Breitling, when you can get a Tudor with an in-house movement for half the price. Breitling is taking the piss…

[@Drsavation]

in such way, breitling DID copy rolex, as in, taking the piss

[@_DioBrando_]

Spot on. Breitling needs a reality check with this. I feel like people would rather just spend a bit more to buy an Omega or save their money and buy a Tudor. People on a budget will look a little deeper at the specs and hate the ETA movement and people who have money to burn will just buy a Rolex or other hype brand. Extremely confusing decisions with this watch.

[@dxfordummies]

But the breitling aesthetic is better than Tudor 😊

[@dxfordummies]

Many uninformed people say a Tudor is a poor man's Rolex. Or a compromise.

[@Mr35000000]

Which Tudor can you get for half the price?

[@frankpentangeli7945]

The Navitimer is one of the most iconic watches ever made. It's right up there with the Submariner and the Speedmaster in terms of timeless designs. I only know a little about the Navitimer's complicated functions, but frankly I don't really care. What I care about is how it looks and how well it's made. And the classic Navitimer is absolutely beautiful!

[@Reladan187]

I have to agree. Looked waaaay too much for me at first. But it really grows in. I like this new line aswell

[@chrishammer5925]

It was the first flight "calculator" I believe... really cool function, not just to look complicated. The watch is an icon. The movement, is actually the most accurate in my collection to include rolex, omega, glashutte, etc Within 1/sec per day. I love it

[@BlackWipeout]

I agree 200% I nice video about this watch --> kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoG9Zqqlf9N4jpo

[@rosschops9509]

It’s nice to know it’s loved somewhere because it doesn’t chuff my bits at all. Horses for courses.🤷‍♀️

[@chrishammer5925]

I feel like it's a "fad" now to just hate on Breitling. lol There are some real reasons as to why in the recent past, yes. But, I do feel like it's almost popular to hate on Breitling now. This watch looks like a dive watch, not a Rolex copy

[@ErikL727]

Pre-Owned Tudor diver: 3k Pre-Owned SMP or Planet Ocean: 4k This Confused Breitling: 5k+ Superocean Heritage remains the best Breitling diver. The rest all fall short on design & spec choices.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Agreed. The more I think about which Breitling I’d get, the more convinced I am that it should be the Superocean Heritage or (for more money) a Navitimer (which of course is not a diver).

[@ErikL727]

@@eyeheartsushi2212 I have, and love, a Navitimer 41mm with the 7750 movement. It's amazing and quite affordable, comparatively speaking.

[@Mr35000000]

I dont agree it’s fair to compare a new watch with a used watch.. It’s like saying I can have a Bentley for less than a new Toyota Corolla.

[@DavidDatura]

I like the look of these a lot. The ETA movement with only 38 hours power-reserve puts me off them somewhat though.

[@ryangallagher7439]

If the power reserve is putting you off then you don't really Like it.

[@DavidDatura]

@@ryangallagher7439 says you 😒

[@almac9203]

​@@DavidDatura they need a powermatic 80 movement.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

But as a three-hander the 38hr power reserve makes it tolerable.

[@OceanCCC]

the 38h 2824 actually is better than the 80’s

[@DeanBaco]

I tried some out today, they do look great on the wrist! I wasn't convinced by the pictures and early reviews but in reality I really like it. It's quite a step away from the outgoing model (which I like too, more of a toolwatch vibe on that one). I don't really go with the Rolex comparison, seeing that it's based on an earlier model. Great summer watch, so I got one (blue/black one on the blue rubber strap, which is awesome, by the way) and I'm getting the bracelet after the summer to switch things up. Having said that, I miss my 'old' (outgoing) SuperOcean 44, I may still get one while I can, to be honest

[@insearchoftheperfectwatch934]

BEFORE Rolex, BEFORE Patek, Doxa had dive watches with a turquoise dial much earlier. In keeping with orange dials being the "Professional" and black dials being "Sharkhunter" their turquoise is the "Aquamarine."

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[@StephenMorganCanada]

Lovely looking watches but for price, Omega 300M all day.

[@yooseemotoringchannel3357]

They need to fire all their consumer research department. They really think 46mm is going to be a bigger seller than 40mm? How can they be so out of touch?

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

It’s baffling they chose 46 over 40 or 39mm.

[@carattentat4944]

The 'BOY GEORGE'S' watch world’s constant feasting on the past, with each regurgitation looking less and less elegant and original, is really unhealthy. Breitling has taken the new Superocean to the abyss of shame, and replaced it with something that looks so cheap and clumsy as well!! And all because of the greedy cannibalising their back catalogues content,and instead of coming up with a REAL dive watch the 21st century demands for !!

[@sideshowbob32]

I feel the price needs to closer to TAG Heuer, rather than Omega. Not sure why somebody would buy the Superocean when the Superocean Heritage is the same price but has in house movement. Either way I think an SMP300 is a much better purchase which is what I went for. It seems the specs have been downgraded as well, the previous 44mm was water resistant to 3300ft, the new one only 1000ft... (not that it matters for a desk diver) Still only 38 hrs power reserve as well hmmmm..... I really want Breitling to succeed but this watch is no from me.

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[@rosschops9509]

Strongly agree up until you made me visualise the bloody valve on the smp.🤦‍♀️

[@sideshowbob32]

@@rosschops9509 The valve gives the watch character!

[@rosschops9509]

@@sideshowbob32 The big geezer from The Goonies has character - I wouldn’t wear him on my wrist either.🙄

[@sideshowbob32]

@@rosschops9509 Each to their own, I don't think it would be an SMP without the valve, I'm a fan

[@NitroModelsAndComics]

4-6 k for an ETA 2824? No thank you.

[@Guitarorpheo]

Oofff expensive for an eta based watch. An oris is half the price, with an in-house movement.

[@call1a1rich]

every diver has to look similar in some way. it’s what comes with the watch. this isn’t about rolex at all. cause you have to say that every diver copies the fifty fathoms…

[@DanielMealo]

Clearly a Rolex copy. It has a bracelet. A dial. A bezel. A case. EVEN HANDS! The audacity.

[@jodysilvia2]

I'm not a fan of the new dial but the new case and clasps are really nice.

[@cubex68]

I love the Breitling ETA based movements, never had issues with it. I wish it was priced more towards BB58 with 44, 42, 40 and 36mm variant and NO it doesn’t look like a Rolex, imho.

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[@donaldneo4317]

The 42 wears like a 40 when I tried it on side by side with my GMTc, the dial design makes it look smaller and the short lug to lug combine with the "thiness" makes it wear smaller.

[@nickstokes7178]

For 4,500 dollars they're competing with a Zenith Chronomaster on the secondary market, their competing with Omega, Tudor... etc, etc... i just cant justify the price V.S. the movement V.S. the market. That said, i like the Bronze/Green.

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[@jordifernandezescobar3889]

Not at all, in fact looks much nicer than the Rolex. Nice watch with many options and no terrible waiting lists

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[@thegorn]

I like the all white for women, and I like the bronze/green for men. The large white inner rehaut is just too much white for me (as a man). But all white on ladies is quite fetching. The biggest head scratcher is no 39-40mm version. As you say probably the most popular sizing for the bulk of wrists out there.

[@antonioau_gb89]

38 hours power reserve in 2022 said it all for this watch beautiful watch though

[@dec1aim_flow432]

The big similarity is really the bezel. The rest you guys push it a bit. Good looking dive watch, luminous pips are square not round, no triangle at 12,… I mean… it’s just the bezel (which does look very similar to rolex)

[@d.jacobush.7389]

Exactly, but these guys are obsessed with Rolex, so they have to compare every watch to it, apparently.

[@call1a1rich]

@@d.jacobush.7389 do you follow the channel? rolex hypers? you are just wrong…

[@diavalus]

@@call1a1rich he is not, they do compare anything to rolex nowadays. And if you followed the channel, you would know they mentioned they do so because just putting something next to rolex will increase the number of views.

[@diavalus]

The bezel is heavily inspired from the old Breitling, so it was not inspired from rolex.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

@@diavalus Agreed. They clearly brought up Rolex for views.

[@adbraham]

The unnecessary extra concentric chapter ring; the shiny bezel; the short hands that don’t make it out far enough toward the bezel, the unnecessary combination of numerals and indices . . . YUK! This is what happens when professional “design” teams, totally divorced from end user requirements get involved! Good grief! Whatever happened the “form follows function”? On the plus side the clasp is a real improvement.

[@SinnMaster]

the end user requirement is flexing on the poors, don't kid yourself watches are just jewelry

[@zhicaofang2354]

Two thoughts: -Despite some similarities, the new Superocean is still distinguishable enough from the Rolex Sea Dweller, especially given their more colorful dial options as well as color contrast between the main dial, the inner bezel and the outer rotatory bezel. -Just can't convince myself to pay more than $4,000 retail for this watch. I'd either spend a bid less to get a Tudor Black Bay, or spend roughly the same amount to get the Omega Seamaster 300m. The Superocean just doesn't pack enough aesthetics/history/function to convince me to give up on similar products from two more recognizable brands.

[@Reladan187]

Agreed. There are similarities, but it’s not like I went ”ouch that’s a copy”. And since this is a homage for their own design, I don’t think this is a copy. And I have to agree on the price tag. Should be lower. They could’ve taken the route to a more affordable Breitling with this one, since it has an eta inside

[@donaldneo4317]

Well you will be paying below 4K after 15 ~ 20% discount which should be no problem getting from the AD.

[@Davidlongstride]

I like the black and white model. As soon as I saw it the Zodiac super seawolf appeared in my mind. I definitely wouldn't purchase this brand from an AD at that price though.

[@caliberto5087]

What a stupid title! It is inspired by a Breitling model from the 1960s.

[@jamessymington2466]

Sorry that Deepsea is not an attractive watch whereas the Breitling is quite good looking I suppose. I didn’t like it to begin with but it is growing on me a bit.

[@d.jacobush.7389]

There is no model 37-41 mm, but that is the sweetspot for most people. Does Breitling do this on purpose to sell as little watches as possible?

[@Not-a-bot222]

Yes, basically just out of touch

[@raredanceclassics]

Go try one, the 42mm feels a lot smaller, and looks it because of the clever use of colors and the size of the dial. I have very skinny wrists and even the 44mm didn't seem obscene on my wrist when I put one on the other day. I've tried smaller watches that feel a whole lot bigger than these do.

[@mikemush9741]

"42 it is" is exactly what I thought until I saw them in person yesterday. They wear small. I normally never go above 42, but would definitely not get the 42 in this range. Way too small. I would absolutely get the 44. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I would also strongly consider the 46. Amzaingly it felt great on the wrist! Definitely check them out in person before deciding on the size.

[@MERKAMGCLK]

I have always been luke warm on Breitling.....until now! I really like these very much!!!!

[@finesse49]

I guess not making a 38-40mm size doesn't matter for an ugly watch.

[@CaptCanuck4444]

Looks nothing like a Rolex. Rolex hasn't done anything interesting, innovative or bold in decades.

[@billleonard6662]

So I own two Breitling watches and absolutely love the brand. Getting ready to grab the new navitimer as I think I the new look is a lot less busy and think the b01 is a great movement. One of my breitlings is an avenger 45 (2019) and it is an extremely strong watch. Looks great and very durable watch. As for the super ocean I think they hit it out of the park with this new look. The only similarity between the new super ocean and the submariner is the deep see model. Not with the standard sub. I will also say that the arrogance of Rolex and how they sell watches always steers me away. Don’t know if I will ever purchase a Rolex due to these practices. Great job Georges Kern! Keep it up as I’m a brand loyalist!

[@SIZZO76]

I agree

[@frankpentangeli7945]

This SuperOcean automatic really looks nothing like a Rolex. But however you feel about it being a bit of a ripoff has no real impact in my view. I only wish I could like it more. In fact I don't like it much at all. I MUCH prefer the models Breitling released last year and earlier this year: the Premier, Top Time and Chronomat lineups.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Yes. Last year’s lineup was very good.

[@rava2107]

I've got to be honest the last watch I thought of was a Rolex when I looked at this Breitling watch, I personally think that it is pretty unique!

[@ghst822]

now they just have to artificially limit supply

[@egorkharchenko742]

I really don’t get how market is missing out on the new chronomat. It’s an amazing watch with superb movement. The bracelet quality and design are amazing and feel better then those of omega. It is super comfy on the wrist

[@gelmibson883]

The old SO line had the potential to be a classic. It looked classic and fresh at the same. Hat cool technicals. Why they don't put this homage into the heritage line? This watch has a cheapend bezel, no screws and it has play. The bezel is a fingerprint magnet. It is 700m less water resistant to the 44mm, 200 to the 42. The caseback is so cheap unbelievable. The saved money on the date. As well they didn't used the safety ring around the glas to protect is from hits. Still u pay 500€ plus. The new clasp is way to thicc and doesn't match the vintage style and don't get me started on that cheap lasered logo on it.

[@steve_troy]

Exactly what I was thinking. The old model was a great piece for a relatively affordable price. Nice styling, heaps of colours, strap options and sizing. This seems like it should have been a limited release in the heritage line.

[@ikirikchi]

Unlike its historical predecessor this Superocean has very busy (or even clumsy) dial for no practical reason. Why making it resembling the Superocean Slow-motion if the Slow-motion function is not there?

[@powerplay3573]

There’s not a lot of love out there for this which is a shame, I like it. I find it pleasing on the eye, a solid everyday wear. I’ll be picking one up at some point.

[@Vortex1988]

Uh......no. It looks nothing like a Rolex. You know the watch community has collectively lost their marbles when anything even vaguely watch-shaped with a little bit of color is accused of being a Rolex homage. Rolex didn't invent round watch cases or the colors green or turquoise. Maybe green is in fashion now, but I bought a green watch 17 years ago, and it definitely wasn't a Rolex. A few years from now, people will accuse a Tag Heuer Monaco of looking too much like a Rolex. It's fucking ridiculous.

[@sean1e100]

They just take this angle so the video ranks on KZbin searches… anything watch related needs “Rolex” in the title to be found at volume. It’s a moronic take to be sure, but they’re playing an annoying game to grow the channel

[@numberstation]

Surfer Squad. How embarrassing.

[@Bennie_Bee6]

An ETA2824 for $5000!!!! I don't care what it says on the dial. Its a lovely looking watch IMO but I just couldn't part with $5k knowing that it uses movement which appears in other decent branded watches (Oris/Tag Heuer) etc, for half the price.

[@JizzyNinja]

Honestly I wish they just made the watch they took inspiration from, the dive chronograph. The double minutes tracks of this one with the bezel and dial just feel a bit meh to me. There’s a lot of cool potential here but pretty meh imo

[@Michael-Gill]

Hey Breitling, how about you make a Navitimer with 100M water resistance? In 2022 you shouldn't have to break into a cold sweat because your kid is playing with a garden hose.

[@hayios0]

Copied Oris? ... Unsuccessfully.. Thought the heritage was heritage On the Navitimer they removed the one calculator someone could use on a chronograph.

[@ValueRedApples]

This would be solid if it was 3k, anything more and the design/value just comes up short

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Agreed.

[@PeteMcConvill]

Man, theres a world record challenger in the most click baity stretch ever.

[@sbsb4995]

They look like citizen's. No joke. Look it up. We are talking about 90 percent similarity. And they are very gorgeous. 😊

[@krasnaludek298]

Zero desire to own any of Rolex’s gawdy jewelry nor support a company that treats consumers like 💩. Breitling is producing classy & clean timepieces - love the new Superocean lineup.

[@rosschops9509]

You two sounded like cheeky little schoolboys on this one. British sarcasm…‘it’s fine, it’s fine; guffaw guffaw’. I love that stuff. But eta?🤔

[@DrDarkStar68]

My wife thinks it looks like an Explorer. In other words, it looks nothing like an Explorer ! Seriously it looks fantastic on the wrist and makes its own statement.

[@giacintoboccia9386]

That idea of the slow chronograph is wonderful! I find it so interesting

[@jameswilkes3186]

I was a big fan of Breitling early 2000's but they got away from those designs and went sideways for me. Colt 40.5 was a great daily wearer, tough and stylish. Sad to see this now.

[@thehideoutbarandgril]

Hey hey I’m going to watch this video but If I hear any slander about Breitling I’ll come find you two.

[@dyslexicbien]

Copy what? Its a totally different watch lol

[@realnicesuit]

I read some bad reviews about them but when I saw it in person I was hooked immediately. It's beautiful and eye catching in person. I bought a 44mm Turquoise face on a bracelet and bought my wife a white face 36mm on a bracelet. We are in love. Great piece. The bracelet extension was a major thing for me. It's so nice and needed. Saves you from running to get links taken in and out. Bracelet is comfortable once you size it correctly. Lum is super bright. I would suggest that anyone whose interested go and see them in person instead of listening to bias reviews on Social Media and on KZbin. This goes for any brand. Nice one Breitling!

[@RatInCage-E102]

Lmao if they just had made it in a 40 or 39mm it would sell like black bays. People want to like Breitling

[@WeibenWang]

OMG, “like a Rolex,” seriously? “It has three hands and a rotating bezel, Rolex knockoff!” You would seriously see that on someone’s wrist, and the first thing you think is “Rolex!”? You have Rolex on the brain. Tom to his credit tried, but failed, to dial you back. Yeah sure, the whole world lives under Rolex’s shadow, but you don’t have to replay that tired clockbaity narrative for a watch that’s as much it’s own thing as any dive watch is.

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

For me it does not look a Rolex. I really wish they shrunk the length and gave it female end-links to better taper on the wrist.

[@sean1e100]

“Look!! it’s watch shaped, got a round bezel, a dot on the seconds hand and one of the colours is black…!!! I mean, yeah the markers are different, the case bevelling is different, the crown is different, the sizing is different, the hour hand is different, the minute hand is different, the chapter ring is different, the text on the dial is different, the minute track is different, the colour schemes are different and the brand is totally different… but yeah, they *totally* copied Rolex” “Yeah, just like that Daytona clone that Zenith made. You know, the one with three coloured sub registers and a tenth of a second chronograph. Yeah just like that” “Mate I just wish everyone would stop copying Rolex” “Mate… yeahhh” 🤡🤡

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

I know it’s a new release but I never saw the Rolex similarity until this video pointed it out.

[@ashleychambers7602]

I’ve just bought the black 46mm with the bracelet & the rubber strap (couldn’t decide) and it looks beautiful in wrist and like most people say it looks far better in the flesh

[@John_code]

Doesn't look like a Rolex at all . The breitling looks way better than that chunky Rolex

[@gambee_]

Completely disagree that it looks like a Rolex. Not every dive watch looks like a Rolex.

[@lainwhatsap4937]

[@michaelriera6277]

1) Breitling wear smaller, 42 mm sits on wrist closer to 40mm , you have to try them on. 2) 26 jewels, no longer ETA, now Selitta.

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[@theSUPERmere]

It looks more like Tudor Pelagos. (The rectangle indices)

[@fedomandez]

Missed opportunity: the internal rehaut should rotate

[@WatchesOnWood]

just feels like Breitling had an opportunity to take an oddity in from their past and to revamp it, for the modern era when quirky is more admired these days than outright practicality. But instead it just feels like they've been lazy and not really thought about how to make it better. Topped off with the eta, it just feels like it lacks effort - which is a shame because I like what Breitling have been doing lately.

[@chrisallan4591]

I like it, the green on bronze in particular. Pricing is a grand or two too high. As far as being a bit too Rolexy... "A dive watch is a dive watch is a..."

[@leeharding8306]

The case has a Rolex vibe 🤔 this is a miss for me. Speed less and get a Tudor or spend more and get a Omega. I would get the Omega as it isn’t much more money but it’s much more of watch.

[@jacksonueland]

If you like these go check out zodiac watches

[@fastdays_1]

I see no resemblance between the two

[@ScottAF68]

Personally I really like it! Great job Breitling!

[@jasontraster4512]

I just bought one, so my opinion may be biased. I have two Heritages as well.

[@markbowman7240]

cool watches just a shame about the power reserve 38 hrs is way off today

[@Eric_Nielsen]

Can't wait for *journalists* to get one with a non-working movement so we can read what 'a week on the wrist' is like, with of course no mention of weight or thickness.

[@MicLogan427]

Nope!..eta movement for $4k+....no 40mm case and they completely missed the mark on their heritage piece. It would've been cool to see Breitling make that chronograph diver actually work using their own in-house movement. They could've priced it at $7500 to $10000 and it would've sold... especially if they did a limited production run... Garbage

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[@Salikaan]

I guess it looks a little like the Sea Dweller though Breitling avoided all that horrible text Rolex has on that particular model But bit of a stretch here guys. That said not a huge fan of that model for the price and movement as others have said you can grab an Omega at that price point. Or even an Oris Aquis with the 400 movement is less that that and that's a in-house movement with a 120 hour power reserve.

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[@josephweaver9755]

I think the watch looks nice, but I'm not crazy about the hands. Especially the minute hand.

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[@jlg395]

The Slow Motion looks amazing. They should have stuck with that.

[@anthonyburee650]

Is Seiko decided to make a Rolex this is what it would!!!

[@_DioBrando_]

Why didn't Breitling just reissue the original chronograph?? It's design is so unique! These new superoceans are just a huge miss imo.

[@chrishennemeyer7276]

I felt equally apathetic about Breitling until I got my hands on a Superocean Heritage '57. So much prettier than this new offering.

[@DOGn69]

I love the design of the 57, but it bothers me that the crown is not a screw-down. I would wear it to swim and snorkel, and I have bad experiences with non screw-down crowns. Has that been an issue?

[@chrishennemeyer7276]

@@DOGn69 I haven't taken it into the water, but here's a quote from a Fratello review: "this is a modern watch and no matter what the pundits tell you, it can get wet. I took it in the pool the other day and would happily take it to the beach or snorkeling. It’s absolutely fine."

[@smiffter97]

Breitling need to start using inhouse movements at this price point as Tudor and Omega are offering far superior watches, even my Hydro Conquest has an inhouse 70hr power reserve movement and that is a third of the price.

[@anthonyjarrad141]

I can get passed the 38 hours of power reserver as it's an Amazing no date! It's abolsutley no issue to wind and adjust and run....

[@Khanh2khanh]

Every brand is copying Rolex.....

[@Madmanmarque]

I love my Navitimer. A classic that I've had for almost 30 years. They're not any different than Audemars Piguet leaning on the Royal Oak.. Name one other watch AP makes... I'm probably in the minority but I also think it's ugly

[@Amplitudeproblem]

The new Navitimer is fantastic looking but a bit overpriced even with the in-house chrono movement. This new SuperOcean is OK looking but insanely overpriced, especially with the 2824. Even with the new management, Breitling is still resting on their name too much. Tudor gives you more watch but arguably less name. Omega gives you more watch and more name.

[@low87dawg86]

I think it looks really cool and modern

[@mb-watches]

Nah, not a rolex to me at all. Like the new SO models, especially that light blue (ain’t saying the T-Word…). I think they have there their only design, well done. Was a nice talk guys, cheers.

[@siblej1]

I like it, but 42 is too big and 36 too small

[@minusED]

That’s a big stretch. And THIS rolex is the one nobody knows about, visually. Way further from rolex than 97% of dive watches. Movement is the inly downside really, nice watch otherwise.

[@baze3SC]

The way I look at it is this: 1) Breitling already had access to Tudor's MT5612 but that movement is thicker and it would mean a thicker case, 2) when the time comes to service your watch that ETA might save you $500, 3) it's a basic three-handed watch and I'm not sure if there's any advantage in using a specialized movement. It's only needed to move the hands around the dial. The only practical advantage would be better power reserve.

[@minusED]

@@baze3SC well, my Pelagos after many years keeps a WAY better time than any eta-based watch I have apart from couple of Ulysses, but these also kept precision ticking for 3-4 years and then they slowly started to ask for servicing, loosing more and more seconds a day. Tudor still keep s with insane accuracy level (actually beating sea dweller), so it’s not only power reserve. Also, if I’m not mistaken MT uses silicon in escapement and therefore is magnet friendly. Then, buying a luxury watch and later trying to save couple of hundreds once in 5-10 years? I do not get it. Will a local watchmaker who’ll be that reason for saving use the similarly good oils and gaskets, other parts? I’m not sure. I guess everybody heard awful stories about servicing through the brands, but they really do update their stuff when they can, so it isn’t true that customer pays for the brand only.

[@baze3SC]

@@minusED I don't know, everybody is wired differently. Accuracy is also one of those parameters where mechanical watches are not particularly good at. I just expect it to be good enough. Regarding your point about saving a couple of hundreds, yes, if you really wanted to save money you wouldn't buy a luxury watch in the first place. However there are many other things to spend money on (ask your wife or kids) and it's also a matter of convenience. A local watchmaker can fix the movement in two days whereas if you were to send your watch to an authorized center it could take weeks, even months. In order to streamline the process companies like Tudor swap out the movements for refurbished ones so not only you have to wait more but you don't get the same watch that you bought.

[@RideSpain]

Ffs! It’s nothing like the Rolex! I think you are just saying that for click bait. You don’t have to use that technique!

[@storck08]

No 38-40mm so no love from me.

[@collarsncolours]

I want a whole series about the Surfer Squad saving children & dolphins with extremely unsubtle product placements