Buying An ANTIQUE CABOVER Ford And Getting It RUNNING The Hard Way

[@chadkolman4135]

My buddy owned this for years it had a roll back bed on it and we used it to haul in scrap cars. Also the frame was bent from hauling lots of heavy stuff on the rollback. Last time I drove it was about 7 years ago and the brakes were junk then. Also it eats starters bad it never had an ignition we use to start it with a screw driver. My buddy put that rigged up push button in. That push button was from a door popper kit. Rear end was unhooked cause it would get stuck one way or another in hi or low. Brings back memories seeing it again.

[@dazasc3994]

you got any pics of it from back then?

[@Brycereigle2000]

What year is it?

[@Bumblebee4788]

Thanks for the info on the old girl....

[@jeesmith99]

Your dad is like the real world mister wizard. What a cool dude.

[@Cartier_specialist]

Yeah I'm pretty sure he's the real deal MacGyver, not the fictional one as seen on TV.

[@chrispy3866]

I doubt jr remembers Mr. Wizard. That’s a GenX’er thing (me).

[@jbeatty811]

Couldn't agree more

[@willpoteat8503]

@@jbeatty811 He's the smartest guy we all know. :D

[@thedelcodave]

Your content has been on fire since the warehouse sold! Just like the old days I am loving it.

[@hojnikb]

Yeah, this channel needs more cheap flips and builds :D

[@repairupdaterepeat5815]

You know it's a good video when Ross senior arrives with a screwdriver

[@htownblue11]

Always great to see your pops and him sharing his knowledge.

[@rpmrallysport7071]

What a fun episode JR- it's running Dad- the frame is a waste Had me laughing - love when your dad is on - he must be thinking.... what did that boy bring home now.

[@Shauma_llama]

Wonder what JR brought home when he was kid?

[@TwoDollarGararge]

that's how my dad reacted when I went to a swap meet in PA for cleaning stuff in bulk and came home with a Porshe 944 lol

[@Rolexor]

Your dad is awesome. He’s throwing out insane knowledge.

[@ryanenglehart7247]

Hey I'm watching from Charlotte, Mi!! Pronounced Shar-Lot. D.e. wertz was a local farm machinery dealer that sold to another company a handful of years ago. Been watching you for a few years now, pretty crazy coincidence to see something, especially that, from my hometown on here haha

[@mikec3071]

I’m in Lansing. I had the urge to correct him every time he said it like the nascar track😆

[@karaayers2867]

They are not split rims. They are locking ring rims. Actual split rims have a seam down the middle. Locking ring rims are safe, you can change the tires and tubes out yourself fairly easily. Just clean the rings and grooved well as rust can keep them from locking in place easily

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

Love your dad! The man is a whole wealth of knowledge and he's got an eye for detail. Spotted that the frame was bent after having a quick look at it.

[@DirceuCorsetti]

Love it when your old man makes an appearance. The enthusiasm he shows for the garbage stuff you come up to him from time to time is the thing only dads can do. This truck could make an awesome backup trailer to pickup new projects. Would it be so hard chop and rebuild the frame with a torch and welder? I know it wouldn't be as good as to have it all in one piece, but it can be done I think!

[@jritechnology]

"I'VE GOT NO BRAKES!!!!!...... Can you unhook me so I can drive it?!" Indeed!

[@WatchJRGo]

As long as there are no hills you don't need brakes 😂

[@clevelandmaker386]

@@WatchJRGo now we talkin'

[@clevelandmaker386]

@@WatchJRGo aluminum Alcoas...Holley sniper....and you can get the rest from Truck Pro

[@joequixotic3039]

@@WatchJRGo you need to see if John Deer PTO attachments fit on the back of the chassis.

[@marlinmr7]

In adding to this - I suggest figuring out how much of the frame is good and then shortening the frame possibly. We used to do this all the time with my Dad's delivery trucks. The biggest thing is the drive shaft will need to be shortened to match and that you really need someone doing it who knows what they are doing. Rest of the truck is so cool - it is worth the frame shortening and the rest of what needs to be done.

[@briantayler1230]

G'day from OZ, my late father was a truck driver in the '60s - '70s, and his truck was petrol and was parked at night outside our house. People down the street would sneak up at night and steal (milk) the petrol from the truck. He then got a new Ford diesel truck, similar to this one, and they only milked it once. Years later we talked to the thieves and they said that the car never ran again.

[@glassvial]

I love how WatchJRSenior just gets after it and glad you got this old beast running. You have a way of making people excited about whatever crazy project you're doing, unless you find a cheap frame though, this thing is probably too far gone.

[@Tele_gram_me_Young_Static]

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[@truthteller9743]

Please tell pops to start a KZbin channel I can listen to him teach things or at least talk about things all day such a smart man.

[@sgttombailes3380]

Years ago, in the early "70's I drove a old cab Over Ford Truck. It was awesome ! The view was great while driving !! 2 years in the N. GA. MTNS. Switch backs and all !! I was able to see everything !! Including my trailer ! I loved it !!! When they got rid of it, I was unhappy. However, they gave me a brand new International cab.. W/ air conditioning !! That was a plus~~!

[@rossk4167]

JR's dad is such a dad! Love that guy

[@69Dartman]

The tire shops here used to have the big tire cages so they could service split rims safely. Most older pickups had them, my 41 Power Wagon had 16 inch bud split rims and I had a friend into the military trucks that would change them out in his driveway. The ones meant for combat areas had what we called combat rims that had a outer cover over the split with about 12 or more bolts keeping the split rim from ever blowing off no matter what happened to the wheel. Finding a decent 4bbl intake manifold for those engines isn't that easy but they run great with a spread bore carb.

[@mikemontgomery7337]

I'm surprised you didn't drop that off in front of ur house to impress your neighbors !!!! 🤣

[@VanisleNSX]

John Ross' dad is always so knowledgeable.

[@P.Galore]

Mr. JRGO: " What are you going to do with this thing?".....EXACTLY Mr. JRGO, Exactly the right question.

[@gerbearadventures5574]

I love these old trucks. Thanks for bringing us along!

[@darrylroederer2680]

I've been doing a little thinking on your frame issue. Basically, that frame is unobtainium at this point. But you might be able to find something similar enough to get you through underneath an old Ford School bus. If that doesn't work out, and you have to Frankenstein the thing together, I think it would be really cool to Bob it out, make a short wheelbase pickup truck hauling a gooseneck car hauler. That would be very cool in my opinion. Also worth noting, the engine in that maybe the heavy duty Fe block. Check for cross bolted main caps, bolts in the side of the block down near the oil pan. If you do have the heavy duty block, even if it's only a 352, that thing is golden. Super heavy duty and worth hanging on to. Worst case scenario, you could put a 428 crank in that, along with some good heads and make killer torque

[@dustar14]

Awesome find, used to buy all of our tractors, parts and toys from Wertz’s. Would’ve loved to have found this.

[@Tele_gram_me_Young_Static]

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[@jritechnology]

Nice find! One of the first C-Series! That big knob might be choke? And you can see where they tried to reinforce the bend in the frame.

[@RobertBohnen]

I've always liked the C-600. I drove a flatbed lumber truck in the 70s and a 4 yard cement mixer in the 80s. They both had the 2 speed rear end. The mixer had a really sweet Detroit V8 and it had plenty of get-up-and-go. Lots of fun to drive. I do happen to have an F-600 frame that I've had plans to use it for an overlander. It has a single speed with 8x22.5 six lugs. No motor or trans.

[@MrAPCProductions]

C61 = C600 2WD (gas). D = 330 2V Heavy Duty FT engine. V = Kentucky Truck Assembly Plant. AG7348 = 1978 / 1978 was the first year Ford used a double letter code in the serial number. 175 " Wheelbase. Color NT = No listing given. C617 = C600 gas, 21,200 lbs GVWR A2 = Light Gray Crush Vinyl & Gray Twill Stripe Woven Plastic / 8 = 91B Custom Cab. A = New Process 435 4 Speed Manual Transmission. F2 = Eaton model 15201 Two Speed Rear Axle / 5.83/8.12 / 15,000 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity. M = Ford 7,000 lbs. Capacity Front Axle with Power Steering. 21,200 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

[@isaacsoderlund9677]

As soon as your dad started talking about rebuilding the carb, I knew you were going to drop a Holy Sniper reference!

[@05milmachine90]

We had these Ford cabovers in the Air Force as De-ice trucks. They were used a handful of times a year and were like time capsules. Love the design. I remember a lot of them going dirt cheap at gov auctions

[@paulstevens95]

I work at a camp in Alaska most summers that uses one of these to haul AvGas and Diesel from the Yukon River up to the camp. It's a lot of fun to drive through muddy tundra in western Alaska with 3000 gallons of fuel. Often use a 1960's Cat D5 dozer as a pusher when needed. One of my favorite styles ever from Ford

[@hackfabrication139]

I'm thinking the large knob is for a hand throttle, since there is a PTO driven hydraulic pump. The Dayton style wheels, can be swapped for the Budd style, but will take replacing the hubs, etc. Those aren't the 'killer' style split rims, but rather split ring type. Which have their own inherent dangers, especially when initially filling tires with air. Had those same style rims on my 1972 Peterbilt 352 COE.

[@reggeckmann3993]

Tons of farm trucks in Kansas and Nebraska should be great to grab one off the farm. They are everywhere!! I am behind this project! Awesome JR!

[@kencrouch668]

I just knew it! First your brother got involved then here comes your dad! I bet your dad had a really important business call and saw you and your brother working on the truck and said - I'll call you back later. I have to go! My favorite part was - JR - the frame is messed up! We can use the rear end for something and maybe the engine!

[@victus57]

I love these cabovers! I hope y'all are able to save it and make an awesome truck out of it. I've always wanted one, so I'm happy to see y'all may have a project out of one!

[@jonkwin9620]

Split rims are not dangerous if handled properly, get tires changed by a truck tire company. Those spoke wheels could look so great with the right paint colors. The brake booster in the rear is probably a trailer brake set up.

[@mccrackenphillip]

Rare truck man real keeper Road Way Expresses used those in the late 90s when I was a kid Orange & Dark Blue. & and without the blue Ford oval tells me this truck is older like 1980

[@xr75k1]

I admire JR Senior enormously. What a talented Mr fix-anything.

[@christophergray4024]

The black nameless knob in the middle of the dash is probably for your idle. Once you get it running, you can pull it out to increase your idle then turn it to lock it in place. I used to drive trucks and alot of the older trucks had that. (Could also be used as a rudimentary cruise control but I wouldn't recommend it.) The 2 speed rear end isn't a splitter like in semi trucks. You should be either stopped or only going at a walking speed at most when you change rear end ratios. Try that at 10+ mph and you might find that beefy rear end all over the road.

[@tn65s]

Wrong it's a splitter,

[@Therehabanddocumentationguru]

Please bring back Dad to more videos. Your relationship is awesome to see, the 2 of you working together.

[@jeesmith99]

Took my first commercial drivers license exam in something like this that was ex Air Force. Connected to a low boy trailer to haul a helicopter. What a rig.

[@jeremylynn8631]

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[@Maxzillian]

I'm honestly a bit disappointed I didn't come across this one. That truck is awesome!

[@KeithZim]

Lucky 4 u most of Johns content goes up for sale again :)

[@Maxzillian]

@@KeithZim yeah, but then most of the fun is done and over with. There's something really satisfying about getting a dead vehicle going again.

[@born_again_torinos]

I really appreciate how often you put out a video JR. Thanks.

[@fixinggrace]

The Red Cross used to have these in the 1970s before they switched to GM Top Kicks for their box trucks. They were all gasoline powered. Brings back memories.

[@jasong3652]

JR’s dad should have a channel too! I would subscribe and watch every day!

[@FeloniousSavage]

Jr gets good deals because he's the only one of us willing to meet the shady dude off of Craigslist to purchase the car that seems too good to be true because it's $4,000 below Blue book value and you have to meet the dude in a dark alley... An absolutely legend...

[@donavontaylor6582]

I’m kinda glad you got out of that shop and started working on flips and cool trucks again originally why I watched your channel did it all without the fancy stuff

[@ernieleithes6545]

Yeh great content in every episode and you can tell a great weight has been lifted of his shoulders.

[@jackasmaryan1776]

Always Awsome Seeing Senior 👍👍

[@InktronicsBlog]

Wow! This brought back childhood memories. My dad used to drive one of these flatbeds all over the California Bay Area delivering carpet. He would take me along in the summers.

[@intrepid5684]

Your brother is a fantastic welder/fabricator, go to town on that frame.

[@jimdieseldawg3435]

Hi JR 🙂 I’ve seen a couple of rat trucks built using this classic cab and a more modern F-650 chassis converted to accept it. Might be easier/quicker than trying to find a better original chassis - particularly as it also offers the option of air-ride rear axle without further effort. So, cabover you have + ex-Penske (or a hundred other companies) air-ride box truck + sell the box and taillift = cool Ford truck for cheap 🙂🤟🏼

[@In_memory_of_Dad]

John Ross you are on fire buddy, please keep the excellent content coming dude...🔥👍🙂👍🇺🇲🇬🇧🇺🇲🇬🇧

[@sdz9850]

I believe that Freshn'd Air fan has a GE motor. Should also have a pull chain with a little tag on the end. Cool fan.

[@murraymadness4674]

I picked up a 1985 C700 that was a PG&E truck with the utility bed on it. It only has like 80k miles and I got it started up first try (once battery was fully charged), but it had a bad clutch slave cylinder, so could not drive it, and the right rear wheel has the brake locked up. It has air brakes, but they were not the problem. It has the Detroit Diesel 8.2L 4 stroke. It has modern 22.5 ten lug wheels is why I got it, since I also had a 72 C50 and it had the split rim tubed 20in wheels which are impossible to replace unless you remachine everything, which costs a fortune. You have dayton wheels, not split rims, those are ok. My cab is pretty rusted on the roof, but otherwise its ok. If you are interested in it, I'd sell it and you can swap your cab onto it. In California, commerical diesel trucks older than 2005 can't be registered anymore, but my plan was make it motorhome which is ok. Also, you need to check on the frame material as they used a hardened steel on big trucks that can't be welded on, not sure what year they started that, the older ones might still be mild steel, so you could try to fix your frame.

[@gtequest5058]

This is too cool. Love the video. I live about 5 blocks from the JD dealer. Too cool to see something that used to run around town here.

[@the.porter.productions]

O-H-I-O Porter greetings 🇺🇸 Happy New Year…2024!😎 I’m so glad that you found & bought this fine old Ford truck! I drove a 65 C800 & really loved it. The cabs are very easy to access & work on. Your truck has the typical rust spots. That ledge behind the seats is only big enough for some speakers, lights & maybe some small bags or toolboxes. Keep in mind that you want things to be tied down up there as well. Anything loose can fly through the window or bounce around. They sure had it rigged up poorly. I hope it’s a 391 engine. That’s what mine had & with a 4 barrel carb. I bet yours was a rollback in the day. Tis a shame that they bent the frame! Some budd wheels would look super sharp on that truck. Mine had Dayton wheels as well. You will have a fine truck to represent your hobby. Good stuff. Blessings my friend.🤩🥰✌️

[@BradColemanisHere]

Fun! Hey, I know not every seller is up for it but whenever you get a chance to film the going-to-purchase trip and the purchase and getting it home, that's cool.

[@helping0hand226]

Hey JR, Tony here from Quincy Wa. listen dont give up on that cab over! all u have to do is shorten the frame! if u measure it right' u can use the rear half of the driveline! heres some pics of my cab over aka the Yeti! also u change out the wheel hubs to a 10 lug and slap it with some super singles milled down to 22 flat for regular tires! and enjoy! just a thought u do what u want but dont give up on it! u gott a badass toy hauler in the rough!

[@helping0hand226]

how the hell u add pics? anyways i'll send them to u as soon as i figure it out....lol

[@jr42a1]

Had a 63 COE ...fair warning... If you put stuff on the back shelf behind the seat and tip the cab ,Everything on the shelf falls on the windshield and can break the window. Other than that? excellent truck.They were beasts

[@BFVgnr]

Back to the classic days, like back when I first started watching the channel. Your dad's awesome 'I know all about bending frames'

[@T.S.T2014]

Good old school JR, keep it up Lad we are all interested again.

[@tonytabacchi3772]

That has a 370 2V, which is the LIMA series engine family. (370 4V and 429 4V, similar to the 385 passenger and light truck 429/460). I believe these engines replaced the FT series (330, 361, 391) in 79. This truck is going to be a 79-84, based upon the engine and the lack of a front emblem. The lightning bolt emblem was used all the way up through 1974. Then no emblem until 85, when they started using the Ford oval. These trucks were produced from 1957-1990.

[@tkskagen]

If you where able to move the Rear Axle forward 2-3', upgrade to Full Air Suspension and obtain a Deck, this would be a "KILLER RAMP TRUCK"! OH YEAH, and get it to start & run...

[@bdpopeye]

When I was stationed in the Philippines,1975-'77, my division had a cab over Ford . BUT ours was the semi version with a flatbed trailer. It was a gas engine. We hauled air-launched ammunition with it.

[@commonsence1129]

Man I love watching these old semi trucks start up after being abandoned for so long. Hope your able to save her fingers crossed.

[@nathancoye]

I always enjoy the videos with your dad and brother getting stuff running.

[@Brandenlytle1]

@WatchJRGo Im fairly certain those wheels are not split, just spoked, not dangerous just have to be very cautious when taking the nuts off and loosening the wedges, don’t take the nuts totally off the studs until the wedge is free for the rears.

[@InspiredJJ]

18:30 the most Midwest thing I have ever seen minus corn. 😅 ✌️

[@grandudetonesnob7107]

I would say the big knob on the dash is the hand throttle that you use to idle up the engine when running the PTO.

[@jimcolangelo7003]

This is so awesome, I love cabovers. I would love one but I can't imagine why I need it.. plus the wife would murder me if I drag home another car haha Funny thing about Charlotte, Michigan is the locals call it CharLOT - which is technically the French pronunciation of it (much of Michigan was settled by French fur traders) but of course very different than the Charlotte in NC.

[@brianholland2916]

That's a pretty cool truck. I just bought a 52 chevy coe and I envy your condition!

[@danielmcbriar1672]

JR what about swapping the cab to a school bus. You'd get a strong frame with a cummins and then have a spare engine and drive train for something else. Would be great to have a flatbed and a project with Papa Ross 😁

[@Tele_gram_me_Young_Static]

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[@trainmanbob]

So why not put a breakdown winch on the back and use it for collecting any other vehicles you buy that don't run?

[@emeyer6963]

These were mad from the late 50's through the mid 80's.Real workhorses.

[@waynep343]

There used to shops that bend frame rails. Dont know if they still exist. You have lots of options for the frame if the under cab section of the frame is good.. Cut and splice on almost any rear frame of a proper thickness. The brake wheel cylinders and adjuster components are available. I have a catalog that lists them. The brake booster is available. Probably the brake master in the cab. You will want to replace all the brake lines. You should install an air brake tank set up to supply vacuum to the rear brake master cylinder. In the early 80s the shop I worked st had several F600 and F700s that we worked on. A new driver was hired. Ever drive the grape vine on I-5. Sure all the time. I can post mr roads wild ride to the runaway ramp. He came feet from going over the end and dropping off about 70 feet. Cal trans fixed that as the truck hauling steel had gone over the end. The end of the escape ramp is nearly vertical upwards now.

[@bradklingensmith]

Runs and drives. Nothing said about stopping. Lol. Love the truck.

[@thestuffz]

You don't need a whole frame ... maybe. Might be able to get the back half of a good truck and splice them together. depends on local laws and regulations of course. There was an F600 Big Job that was famous on the internet for awhile. Yellow cab, black chassis, shiny wheels. It had the front of the Big Job and the rear of a freightliner I believe. Updated the rear end that way to.

[@derekwells4201]

A friend of mines dad used to have one of those the hauled hay with it had a fifth wheel plate on the back. The big space between the seats and the back of the cab is for a sleeper his had a really narrow mattress back there

[@stevesnvegas9040]

I fast forwarded most of this until I saw dad show up. Always good when he's on.

[@12yearssober]

The big black know may be for turning up your idle while using the PTO.

[@johnstabler4543]

JR, I’d love to see a full tune-up/build series on this truck!

[@Eric_Schon]

There was a f600 sitting for a long time on MacArthur west of West St.. 4555 W. MacArthur

[@helloRockwood]

One of the coolest vehicles I've seen on your channel. Love the oddball content.

[@randygranger2294]

Would you be able to move everything forward to where the frame is good? Might be cheaper than finding a whole new frame?

[@burtonbird5518]

On the fly your Dad has it all figured out. Need more like him. Time for a collaboration with KZbinr "Adventures Made from Scratch". Every episode has Ford F600's brought in just he can scrap them. Good resource if nothing else. Or a collaboration with Morske n Duff. He knows what's hanging around in a tree row somewhere...Cheers 🥂

[@AutoAuctionRebuilds]

I really love those old COEs

[@yellow2000SR]

You don’t need a full frame from little I can see in video. Section it from pto hydraulic tank back. Biggest thing is to find the same size C frame rails

[@InspiredJJ]

What spec frame do you need? I can check the the mid Atlantic region here.

[@Bryan921SS1]

This is awesome, Michigander here so it is cool to see a piece of JD equipment running again

[@rubencruz2486]

have you considered buying some frame channel and extending/repairing the frame?? I've done that type of work when converting trucks into log trucks.

[@elijahwerner6130]

I'm a big fan of putting old trucks back into service in their stock configuration, but things like brake and axle parts can get really hard to find for these big ones. It can be done, but it ain't easy, and it probably won't happen at your typical O'Reilly's. In the end, it may be easier and potentially cheaper to transfer the cab to a newer chassis.

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[@frankwolf389]

My brother used to use F600's for his home oil delivery business. One of my half-brothers has an oil truck still. I'll check and see if it's still for sale.

[@billvanderpol]

Wondering if it would work to shorten the frame, like ‘stubby Bob’?

[@Braditanium]

In Michigan, it's not Charlotte like North Carolina, it's 'Sharr-LAHT' 7:40

[@tincansailor9437]

When you pay less than scrap value, you can't lose!

[@joestamper5649]

I would move the axles forward box the rest of the frame in put a 1 ton dually pickup bed on it looks like there was enough good frame there to move the axle forward and cut off the bad good luck

[@Vegasoutlaw]

You should make that truck the JR recover truck and pick it all your furniture projects. Keep it

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[@clifbradley]

A lot of superyachts, especially the explorer variety such as Nordhavn, use John Deere engines. Most builders though that make long range superyachts use Caterpiller Acerts, however you can option John Deere in some cases. But Nordhavn, especially on Aurora uses John Deere. If you watch Aquaholic on YT, he does an excellent walkthrough of the boat. especially the engines. Most regular yachts use Volvo Penta, MAN, MTU, Rolls-Royce, Yanmar amd sometimes even Cummins. But long range yachts get Caterpillar or John Deere

[@LTD347]

Should put a tilt slide on that old thing. Or shorten the frame and put an F350 dually long bed on it. I love the look of these trucks

[@thatcadillacguy1961]

As soon as I saw Sr. I knew that rig was gonna run.