Watchmen - Adapting The Unadaptable

A look at the "unfilmable" work of Alan Moore that deconstructed the entire comic book medium.
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what editing? this uses clips from Watchmen the motion comic

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Alpaca Male You referenced one piece of an extremely well put together video. Don't pretend like you could just as easily pull off his Rorschach style image fades, his panel stenciling, his color transition during the primary vs. secondary description, and I could go on and on about the technical details put into this video, but the truth is, it comes down to the amount of passion and research he puts into the topics. I actually learned something. And he did it in a fun and interesting way. That takes talent and it's obvious that his style of editing shows it.

[@farmzombie]

"An adaptation should never replace the source material." That's why I have mixed feelings on the Frankenstein films. They were important to the development of cinema, but they have totally replaced the image of the original novel in the public's eye. People think of the monster as Boris Karloff, not the intelligent but murderous character of the source material.

[@cineturon]

So, it sounds like the monster in "Penny Dreadful" was very close to the literary character.

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+Martin T. Considering the title of the show is literary, they better have been faithful!

[@TheRhetoricGamer]

The same could be said of Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde. Almost all adaptations have Jekyll as a scientist who accidentally cursed himself to becoming a big, horrible monster. In the book, Jekyll deliberately enjoyed transforming himself into Mr. Hyde, who was an intelligent, short but remorseless man. Jekyll liked becoming Hyde because it freed him of moral and social burdens, and his addiction eventually consumed him. As a result of modern adaptations, most people think of what was supposed to be a cautionary tale about human behavior into a less interesting version of the Incredible Hulk.

[@babywolf4238]

I disagree with that statement. You should always strive to make the best text possible, even if it means replacing the source. If this had resulted in the film being better than the graphic novel, then we would have gotten a great film.

[@juantsu2000]

farmzombie I don't completely agree. If you are going to adapt something into a movie and adapt it EXACTLY like the source material, then what's the point in making it? However, you can't change the source material to the point where the spirit of the story is gone. Basically, when making an adaptation you have the job of making something original and necessary (so that it doesn't feel like milking the og story) but at the same time knowing which elements of the source material don't need changing so that the essence of the story is still there.

[@videogamedunkey]

Great video bubson. I read Watchmen in high school after seeing the trailer for the movie and I thought it was amazing (the book). So I gotta give credit to the movie for getting me interested, even though it was a pretty much a complete shitshow, spare some really well done scenes - like the intro fight with the comedian and Dr. Manhattan's transformation.

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[@mizuni3325]

Complete shitshow is an accurate description of every Snyder movie

[@samevans6063]

I like both. The movie blew my mind so I bought the comic, and that comic is so damn amazing. I got two different but amazing experiences out of them

[@mainstreetsaint36]

That One Meme The same thing with me.

[@captainjakemerica4579]

The comic is better

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@captainjakemerica4579 Can you NOT be a prick about it? Jesus Christ your fucking persistent.

[@ToshiUchiha7]

Likewise. Got me interested in the comic

[@MrSPIDEY21]

@@ToshiUchiha7 read the comic years before the movie came out…comic was so good that the movie low key disappointed me because they changed things that I didn’t understand

[@jonbbaca5580]

It was actually Fearful Symmetry, but I'm glad you pointed out this chapter. It's right in the middle of the graphic novel, and if you look at it closely, the entire chapter is completely symmetrical, from the panel layout to the motion of the characters action and even the colors. It's the most brilliant and overlooked thing ever done in comics. If you have the comic, I'd recommend going back and finding the exact middle of the book, then turning each page forward and backward to the beginning and end of the chapter (all about symmetry), and just be blown away by the genius of it.

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Damn dude, you just made me want to read Watchmen. THANK YOU FOR EXISTING.

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It's a fantastic read, too.

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You should have done it before you knew the major plotpoints. It will still be good though.

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If it were me, I just talked about what made the first three seasons good and then talk about why the movie is a shit stain in comparison and how Korra is good *but not as good as Aang's story*

[@limelightproductions5888]

Jackie Earle Haley was such a good casting decision.

[@DendyJungle]

limelight productions which seems crazy since he is much older, shorter and slimmer than Rorschach. That’s what acting is supposed to be: changing your appearance by using your personality

[@epichal4883]

Rorschach actually needed to be shorter and slimmer as a way of making his Kovacs persona as dim and unassuming as possible for the sake of the dramatic reveal. Good choice.

[@YourMovieFix]

I love the movie, and I love the book. Both to death. But I never expect or want a comicbook movie to be a DIRECT adaptation. I appreciate the changes Zack made, and I visit both of these works of art on a regular basis. I cant say which I think is better because they are two different mediums, but I certainly dont think the movie is a step down from the book, and definitely dont think Zack missed the point of it at all. The movie and the book are both polarizing, even while being cult classics. Its a story simply not for everyone, but I love that its one for me.

[@robertkozak]

agree completely.

[@Thomas_of_the_forest]

Well said

[@GameOverBros]

This guy gets it 👌🏻

[@wse2175]

The ending of the movie irrevocably ruins the essence of the WATCHMEN story. The graphic novel ending is about PEOPLE dying - notice how every single physical structure is in tact. The movie forgets this detail completely and goes with nukes. It makes no sense.

[@bw8450]

Dude really? You wanted Aliens over a more realistic ending? MAKES NO SENSE? Really Aliens dude? Gtfo.

[@nekezajebancije]

The movie Watchmen made me wanna read the comics. So, yeah, the movie did its job. And even though it gets its fair share of criticism from people who love the comics, I think it's one of the best comic book movies ever made... And that's saying a lot.

[@ryderdrew]

nekezajebancije it's definitely up there with the likes of The Dark Knight and Logan.

[@Kill2Hard101]

You are wrong. Sin City is the best adaptation. I notice people who have seen the movie (WATCHMEN) first before reading the comic rarely get the importance of the books ending and it homage to the comic storytelling method.

[@SA80TAGE]

Kill2Hard101 Oh no... Plenty get it, it seems you're the one that doesn't. The Watchmen comic is a commentary on comics, the Watchmen movie is a commentary on movies.

[@jthodges4741]

@@SA80TAGE comic book movies, to be more accurate

[@SA80TAGE]

@@jthodges4741 Yeah not really, point is it was a great adaptation into a different medium. You can't adapt symmetrical panel spreads to a screen that only shows one "panel". It was also by design the movie had lots of action and gore throughout and a rather bloodless climax (energy explosion), which was commentary on the action movie genre in general and audiences desires, not just comic movies. Comic movies weren't quite as prominent back then compared to now.

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I don't think they are saying it bad just referenceing it

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[@SpizzleLep]

Thing is, I never really understood why people called Watchmen "unadaptable", I thought it was pretty straightforward. Of course, that would mean they'd have to cut out a lot of elements, but I thought it could be done and Zach Snyder proved it. But then after watching this video, this guy has really opened up my eyes. It now DOES make sense why they chose the 9 panel comic layout, and why the colours were chosen, and many other things. Great video.

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What's the song in the ending?

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[@Brierrefan14]

Snyders Adaptation of Watchmen is a "superhero movie" about Superhero movies. it shows this extreme violence that was becoming popular and mainstream at the time and it asks us "do we really like this" we see him "parody" and give those inside jokes to show how we look at cape films. snyder uses the same concept moore did with the "graphic novel and how its laid out" idea and adapts that to the film.

[@matthewknudson8610]

I would agree if his recent films didn’t show his obsession with teen angsty melodrama and over the top violence purely for the spectacle while trying to impose some nonsensical “deep meaning” to it.

[@Hollowdude15]

I like how your video is created back in 2016 but still hold's up to this day and great video man :]

[@CAVR]

I still prefer the graphic novel, but I liked the movie ending more.

[@lunatictumor]

I agree completely. I think there's is actually much that the movie just does better.

[@Ratchet2431]

But there were things that the movie did not do so well.

[@mrcheesemunch]

Yeah I felt the movie ending made way more sense, would they really be able to figure Jon was the cause of the creature coming from another dimension? It was surprising and awesome but the explosions make better sense, every survivor would recognize what, who, done it. This movie is so under-appreciated. I read the graphic novel just before it came out and the movie blew me away.

[@lunatictumor]

***** And that was a stupider idea than the one from the movie. Uniting the world against a known threat is easier and makes more sense, than inventing a new fake one that no one has ever seen before. The movie just did this particular bit better than the comic. Its not a personal attack against anyone, it just fits the world better.

[@Ratchet2431]

It is true, but I think it's the only thing the film does better than the comic.

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[@skullkid325]

Great video. I'd be lying if I didn't say I love the film regardless. Not only do I find it to be a great film, perfect to my tastes, but I owe a lot to it. Were it not for the film Watchmen, I would never have read the comics - and I mean any comics, because of this film I went out and I got every comic I could, just never considered them as something I needed to try til I saw this film.

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I absolutely love your stuff. Your attention to detail and ability to see beyond what the story is telling the audience is incredible.

[@itsiwhatitsi]

I think that comic as an art is underrated . Comic must be greater than a film if is well done because is more intimate experience. You can watch a film with your friend. But when you are watching and reading a comic book, you are alone and you are more catapulted in the world of images 'cause you have all the time to read and think and see the details. In a film you do not have that "space" in which you can think about and the entire scene could be lost, passing fast away. In every comic you make the time , the reader is in some way a part of the "direction". But in the fast internet era everything is lost in a blink of an eye. No time to think about it, that's what is the real "mainstream": fashion without thinking. That's why I love comics.

[@benjamingentile1660]

Great video! I agree with almost everything, 2 issues I have. 1) there is blood and gore in huge detail hanging off the ceiling in the comic when Dr. Manhattan vaporizes then men in the restaurant so I'm not sure Snyder's violence was overdone in respect to the comic. 2) the suit Ozy wears in the film is in fact a parody of Batman's suit, you're right on that but costumes in the comic were often meant as parodies of comic book costumes. So isn't the films version a parody of comic book film costumes perfect for a film adaptation? I think al lot of the violence and costumes are meant as film version parodies the way the comic was a parody of comics. What do you think?

[@Bomber679]

I bought and read Watchmen because of this video, last year. It was incredible. So many references I now understand, and it's clear how much of it casually seeped into public psyche. I feel like I need to read it again to truly appreciate it though.

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[@laabitres]

even with all its fauls, the movie was still pretty good

[@KRIMZONMEKANISM]

I also think this as well. And the change from an interdimensional monster to Doc Manhattan's simulated explosion, makes it simpler in a better way. A way which is more effective.

[@Melkac]

It really wasn't.

[@TheLegoproduc]

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[@timy9197]

+Aron Aston it's not a masterpiece if it has so many flaws

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Ti My Masterpiece doesn’t mean no flaws, everything has flaws.

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[@GeahkBurchill]

I've been trying to communicate exactly these thoughts for years, whenever talking to a Zack Snyder fan. It's been frustrating to try and get people to go back and read the actual graphic novel instead of just accepting the [less-than-satisfactory] movie.

[@li-limandragon9287]

Snyder's Watchman is just okay, it doesn't have the subtlety and grandeur of the Graphic Novel, but no true adaption should shoot it word for word and scene for scene. The whole point of adaption is the adapt to a new medium and in this case it's film. Though I do admit I did like the whole Nite Owl beating the shit out of Ozymandias scene since that's what I wanted to happen after Rorsach died in the comics... the asshole who caused it to happen to get a smackdown. Though it's better in the comics with just Ozy asking Dr Manhattan if he did the right thing and the good doctor telling him nothing ends.

[@Ezio999Auditore]

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[@vaachaspathibonala4019]

I really loved watchmen movie,how the visual novel was a meta narrative tackling and focusing on things which are usually not cared about,Snyder creates a meta fiction where he tackles the usual norms of superhero movies,it was interesting,if you can't adapt the source,adapt the idea behind it and make it unique

[@Kill2Hard101]

Snyders movie also doesnt respect the build up at all. We never get a complete origin for Rorschach for example but the opening titles show young Kovacks before you as the viewer are suppose to even know Kovacks is Rorschach. He also shows Veidts plan in the first 10 minutes of the movie..revealing KARNAK before you are suppose to know it exists. Its one big spoiler!

[@jonathanstarsmoure5791]

How do you propose to put all those issues in one movie? I found watchmen very good and a fresh take on film making.(never read watchmen) I read the first few pages of watchmen and I like how detailed the first night owl was with his life, but you can't, you just can't put that in a 2 hour / 3 hour movie. He took the concept and put it in there and I loved it. Loved how the criminal was so close to them and how theatrical it all seemed.

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Two posts in a month?!

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He usually posts once each 15 days.

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[@StudioCastleman]

Ive never been able to pin down quite exactly what felt off to me about watchmen, but I think you summarized it perfectly in this video.

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How have I not seen these video, I've been subscribed to this channel for a while now

[@KiyaWarrior]

watchmen was the only comic book movie i enjoyed in the past 16 years

[@eubie6506]

sounds like youre a sad little man

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+BUMI Yeah. He must be a sad little man because he has a different opinion than you. Get the fuck out of here.

[@eubie6506]

KillJoy different opinion than me and, like, the rest of the population

[@KiyaWarrior]

BUMI All other comic book movies are mainstream garbage, cookie cutter bullshit, designed to rake in as much cash and views from the masses as possible. So its a no wonder you like most comic book movies lmfao.

[@horhaywho2]

BUMI Yeah. He must be a sad little man for having a different opinion than most people. Seriously, shut the fuck up, you entitled brat.

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Oh man!! I don't know anything about this!!!! Lol excited

[@mfwhom5214]

Read watchmen, trust me its an amazing book !

[@levicoffman5146]

Watch the movie first. Then read the book. That way you will enjoy both.

[@irishmangeorge]

Agreed. This is the route I went, as I'm not too big into graphic novels/comic books.

[@Comrade_Sergeant]

I just happened to stumble on this video by chance but these are some of the best video essays on youtube. Bravo, sir. Bravo

[@pjbutton3396]

I can't express how much I love your channel. I read Watchmen for the first time, and thanks to you, you have completely changed my view toward comics and superheroes as an art form. Keep up the brilliant work as always :)

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Props for using F r a n k J a v C e e music!

[@acehayato]

I remember seeing the trailer for watchmen in theaters. I clearly remember the trailer stating "the most celebrated graphic novel of all time" and my friends and I laughed, saying "how can it be the most celebrated if none of us have ever even heard of it!?" We were around 18 at the time. I went to see the movie in theaters and absolutely loved it. I read the comic in a single sitting a few days later. If it wasn't for the movie, I would have never known about Watchmen. I clearly appreciate it as a masterpiece now. Mind you, I wasn't a huge comic book nerd or anything but I'm half japanese and have been reading manga all my life and have been to my fair share of comic book shops. edit: forgot to make my point, the film may be flawed from those that loved the comic from before. but it absolutely did a terrific job of reintroducing the watchmen to a new more desensitized generation and getting people like me to seek it out. Spoilers: This is an unpopular opinion but I prefer the ending of the movie over the comic. It made more sense to me, and I thought the story flowed a lot better that ozymandias would use doctor manhattan's tech and energy to destroy NY (and other major cities) rather than introduce extradimensional beings at the very end of the comic (only in NY if I remember correctly). It really threw me off when I saw that squid monster at the end of the comic. It felt like it came out of no where rather than seeing John constantly working on the machine that was used in the climax of the movie. It also made more sense to me that doctor manhattan could no longer stay on earth because of what adrian did in the film rather than just not wanting to be on earth anymore. Still love the comic as a separate thing from the movie though. Just my two cents as a person that was introduced via the movie rather than the graphic novel.

[@ChillinGames]

my god i love this essay form of vlog, i cant get enough of nerwrighter, vox, film/game theorist, extra history (although they may be a step above, they add quite a bit with their animation, particularly love extra history). even mothers basement's over analyzing OPs is just an amazing way to present your work. and you are doing it amazingly!!! every subject you present i can feel the grandiose weight you are trying to portray! you are right up there with the nerdwriter for me man, keep this coming!!

[@shireymw]

Just finished reading the novel and I have to admit your insights here helped me enjoy it more thoroughly and helped me see the big picture through Alan Moore's small details. So, thank you!

[@thomastalon-pipes6948]

First I want to say that I watched the movie first... and it is really good. I read the comic later... and it is significantly better. Secondly I completely disagree with "an adaptation should only be seen as supplementary." I think an adaptation should stand on it's own and needs to make changes to adapt to a new medium or to add new or different ideas. Look at Disney adaptations.

[@CGagnon5]

Best super hero movie ever made by a mile.

[@FrancoisDressler]

Easily

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The movie wasnt that great

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[@joraco2559]

This is one of the absolute best channels on KZbin, keep up the great work!

[@SarahIlayda]

Such a great channel, thanks ro Philip Defranco for sharing your link! I love film review channels and seeing different approaches to them and you are amazing, and kudos to your editing it's so good! Can't wait for more videos 😊

[@DarklordofDOOM57]

Do you realize that SO MANY good films are adaptations? And far more than just "supplements" to often inferior original works? Great video, but that point is just...nah.

[@OlafLesniak]

But not all adaptations are based on the greatest.

[@mphylo2296]

Most adaptations echo the core themes of their source material. Watchmen contradicts them.

[@jthodges4741]

@@mphylo2296 how so?

[@mphylo2296]

@@jthodges4741 The movie glorifies violence where the book paints it in a negative light. The movie treats the heroes like super powered gods among men while the book treats them like normal people with mental illnesses.

[@jthodges4741]

@@mphylo2296 I think you might missed the point. As visually similar as the book and film are, watchmen the movie tries to do the same thing for movies that watchmen did for comics (specifically action/superhero movies of the time). People at the time were fans of the glorified violence and big explosions? It made the violance overbearing and the explosion dismal and punished a standard viewer for wanting those things. This can be seen in many things, from the visuals, costume design, and some of the dialogue that was changed. Those things were done in order to translate the thesis of the book into the medium of film. Also, how did you see that the movie painted any heroes besides the minutemen and dr. manhattan, which the book also portrayed as roles models and gods, as gods among men? I watched the film and saw that these were very, very damaged people

[@meganellis6702]

Wow this was a truly amazing video. You've somehow managed to take all those strange thoughts that I've considered when comparing the different medias to the Graphic novel and expand upon it exponentially. I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say how amazing a movie is put refuse to read the source material and see /feel more than what can be filmed. Rarely can I watch a video similar to this and agree with the entire thing, but you Sir are my exception. Well done, you've done Watchmen fans proud.

[@kaizenweisz2120]

Two videos in and I'm LOVING this channel. Started on Godzilla after a recommendation from a friend. Love the detail. Editing. I don't even know half the terms for what you're doing, but I see it and I really enjoy it. Great work kaptainkristian!

[@Supermanxtu4]

So after watching this video, and receiving watchmen as a gift, I read the entirety of the book in a matter of a few days and then just today watched the movie. I probably would've never found such a great piece of art if it weren't for my reasoning to read it from you

[@brando8431]

Every video on this channel is pure gold. Keep up the good work.

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Make a video about Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia. I don't know why, I just want to hear your analysis.

[@battousai9795]

I love this video to death, I really do, but I have an issue with it, at 3:14 you say: "It took the realism that Marvel introduced with characters like Spider-man and made it ACTUALLY REAL, not just money troubles..." almost dismissing the spiderman stories as a lame attempt at realism, but it your spiderman video you say: "It was spiderman's realism, relatability and psychological complexity that helped redefine what was expected from comics at that era" and also in that video you say: "spiderman is one of the few books that's able to tackle serious subject matter like death, corruption or insecurity without resorting to being edgy or dark, it just feels REAL" So what is it then? :/ In one video you say spiderman doesn't feel actually real, and in another you say it does... so do you change your views and choose to consider a story as complex, or as simple depending on the point you're trying to make? So when talking about Watchmen Spider-man is lame and unrealistic because it's not dark, and when talking about spiderman stories like Watchmen are lame because they gotta resort to being dark? I don't mean to be rude or anything, it's just that it kinda bothered me the inconsistency of how in one video you're praising spiderman and on another you're kinda saying it's not good enough.

[@cannonfodder4000]

i totally agree lol, felt like he was more biased to Watchmen cause thats what the video is about

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The music in these videos is always so good man

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dude where were you videos when I needed you you. But for real continue what you're doing your analyses are fucking brilliant

[@badvibes720]

The interview with Zack Snyder that starts at 6:13, can anyone help me out with where that is from?

[@captainjakemerica4579]

Why do you want to know? He's a hack

[@pdill900]

Alright, I'm sold. Kaptain Kristian is incapable of making a video that isn't visually interesting, brilliantly written and easy to understand. Good work again, I hope this channel gets more subs soon

[@Lufterix]

I'd like to take a moment here to say that I really appreciate your videos! They make me appreciate the things you talk about much more then I used to. Please keep on doing what you're doing!! You are AWESOME

[@SEIJITV]

I loved the Watchmen movie, yall keep hating. I think it's the greatest superhero movie ever made.

[@captainjakemerica4579]

No The Dark Knight and Logan and Captain America The Winter Soldier and Civil War and The Avengers are the greatest superhero movies ever made not this insult to a great comic

[@Vesohag]

Captain Jakemerica All of those movies have conventional story structures and plot holes. Predictables and not really thought provoking. Not saying that makes them bad but this movie was something else. An amazing feast of deep story, visuals, sound and music. A good adaptation. Better probably than what most could have done in a movie.

[@captainjakemerica4579]

Watchmen isn't a good adaptation Watchmen is unadaptable like what Alan Moore said the comic is and will always be superior and the movie didn't have a deep story like all Hack Synder movies it had a complete clusterfuck of a plot I can agree on the other things but the visuals were really the only great thing about it

[@Vesohag]

Nah, it is a good adaptation. It is adaptable, there's the proof and more now that they are making the series. If you think it didn't have a deeper story and a complicated plot, then how do you even read and understood the comic? And no, not just visuals. The acting, the editting, the rhythm, the soundtrack, the sound design, the costumes, the cast, the sound mixing, the sets, etc. were also great.

[@captainjakemerica4579]

No it's going to fail Damon Lindelof doesnt' have a good record of adapting series look at what he's done with Lost and Star Trek Into Darkness

[@ArmandtFourie]

I could watch this with the sound off and I'd still love it. The style and use of visuals is impeccable

[@filmorepints]

I saw the Calvin and Hobbes months ago, then I came across another one of your videos and instantly knew it was you. I love your style. Your ability to put to words what we feel about the romanticization of each of our childhood's is a feat in itself.

[@fatguycool]

Loved the video, but just want to point out that there's a factual error - Batman & Robin came out in 1997 and not 1992.

[@SpeedBoost]

This is my new favourite channel. I think Snyder's biggest misstep with his adaptation of Watchmen (to all his adaptations really) , is that he's far too concerned with recreating classic visuals from the source material as opposed to understanding the subtext and meaning behind those visuals. His adaptations are decent replicas but they're ultimately hollow once you look for a deeper meaning.

[@charmingmohammed5250]

you deserve a sub , awesome video , watchmen is simply my top cbm of all time

[@rodrigopacheco12]

you are one of the best editors I have seen around youtube in a long time. Keep up the good work.

[@goldenretriever6440]

There's only one man who could do a proper watchmen film And unfortunately he died long before the idea of a watchmen movie was even conceived Stanley Kubrick

[@akshaybhatia8971]

Golden Retriever Kubrick would be a fantastic choice to adapt Watchmen. Terry Gilliam was attached to a Watchmen film for a while, and I think he would've done a really fantastic job. I am actually genuinely excited for Damon Lindelof's Watchmen tv series though. After the absolute revelation that was The Leftovers, I'm absolutely willing to see what he does with the source material.

[@Solaire_of_Astora13]

Golden Retriever No, Kubrick wouldn't have liked adapting Watchmen nor would he have been capable of doing it in the first place.

[@miguelpereira9859]

I have never read these comics, but Stanley Kubrick wasn't exacly known for respecting the source material his films are based on. The most notorious example is The Shining

[@alfa01spotivo]

@@miguelpereira9859 he made his adaptions his own which isnt bad.

[@FNGLHR]

I still say the whole "It would take thirty minutes to explain the squid" thing is garbage. Here, I'll do it in a very quick line of dialogue. Oz: Did you know my pet is a genetic hybrid? My company put a lot of stock into making that a reality. So when I stupid Manhattan's powers to fix the energy crisis, I made sure to fold that into my other work. A little reconfiguring and I managed to cross several undersea species into one giant new creature, alongside giving it the ability to teleport. Of course, the strain of the teleportation will kill it, but the psychic backlash of its death cry will essentially kill millions of people in close proximity. Unfortunate, but neccessary. There, done. You tie it back to Manhattan, so that foreshadowing from before isn't wasted and you bring the tiger thing we all saw and bam! You have the squid and the stupidity of America and Russia thinking they can survive against Dr. Manhattan is done away with. Because we can probably fight aliens, but Dr Manhattan? The fuck are they gonna do?

[@pauljohnsonii950]

They were not trying to fight Dr. Manhattan you idiot, he was used as a fake totalitarian like figurehead in the movie. Not mention how utterly stupid the squid was in the novel, completely ruined it for me.

[@gregorstanley3209]

That was amazing. I have never see so much intellect and emotion drawn into a video about comic books and it be so vivid and... Amazing, i am at a loss of words

[@JusRed48]

Another wonderful video from this awesome channel! Love it.

[@pewdiwance_4541]

The definition of adaptation is changing it to be your own thing, Snyder has done this exactly. I love both the graphic novel and the movie, the movie has more violence to make us feel uneasy and feel remorse for the characters, it's not trying to glorify it. By the way, this video is great! For a small channel, you're awesome! Keep it up!

[@IliaNadyrbayev]

Another absolutely top notch video. Can't wait for your next.

[@AmeerEspy]

Had to come back and re-watch this cause opf the show. Great work, man. I hope in the recent years, these videos have paid off for you cause your editing/story telling is top notch.

[@batmenace15]

I think Warner Bros should try one more time to adapt Watchmen to the screen but instead as a 12 episode miniseries on HBO or Netflix.

[@babywolf4238]

For what purpose? What would the miniseries cover that the comic didn't, everything was pretty self explanatory?

[@captainjakemerica4579]

It shouldn't be adapted ever again

[@jonathanpinera8452]

Miles Bockelman well... here we are

[@ianhines2302]

Miles Bockelman This man can see the future like Dr. Manhattan

[@dirtylevel]

hold up. there's an online version of watchmen?

[@Sarahsingh34]

Peter Valente umm..what? he's talking about the graphic novel

[@dirtylevel]

the comics are animated in the video and I assumed that there would be an online version with animated comics

[@hll4393]

I'm discovering the comic through the motion comic, and although it's very well made, you kind of miss the well-thought layout organization.

[@WanderingWolf]

Just discovered you and now binge watching all your stuff....great videos and amazing content!

[@coltongerdes]

Your editing and deconstruction of scenes are phenomenal. Keep up the great work.

[@wrench246]

"If we only see comics in relation to movies, then the best they'll ever be are movies that don't move." Interesting quote. I recall a documentary regarding anime saying Osamu Tezuka's Astroboy was revolutionary because it treated the panels of manga as frames in a movie. This helps highlight the difference between Japanese manga and American comics. Keep up the good work. Your videos are amazing.

[@jacksonwheeler1830]

You and the Nerdwriter man... These videos are spellbinding.

[@TheSweetestCurse]

I feel like the only people that like the movie either have never read Watchmen, or read it (probably after seeing the movie) and didn't understand it enough to appreciate it fully. the book is damn near art. the movie is...a Zack Snyder movie. whatever positives it has come from the brilliance of the source material.

[@MutantsInDisguise]

Even after watching the film, I read it too many times to understand it lmao. However, last Friday, I decided to watch the film again, and I realized Zack Snyder screwed the book's content to make it ANOTHER superhero film.

[@darobi]

I tried explaining to my friends the other day, why the Watchmen movie failed as an adaptation. You pretty much covered everything I couldn't put into words. I've always thought the key to Watchmen's success as a movie would be incorporating the tricks and tropes of cinema the same way Watchmen the graphic novel embraces comic conventions. I do have one minor critique: At 3:16 when you compare Watchmen's "realism" to Marvel's "realism". I'm guessing it was unintentional but you seem to equate realism with a gritter raising of the stakes, when in reality (excuse the pun), the stakes in Watchmen aren't any more real, they're just more bleak. Realism encompasses triumphs and tragedies of varying degrees. Pushing forth the idea that realism requires higher stakes is the reason comics suffered through the "darker and edgier" 90's anti-hero slump. Minor criticism aside, this was a fantastic video.

[@futurestoryteller]

LOL! Not going to lie, there's a moment in this video that seems _really_ pretentious to me, when you offer up the "auteur" explanation for Moore not using established DC characters by saying he wanted them "to be damaged" and to leave the baggage of continuity behind, when in reality it was said to be as much - if not more - attributable to DC comics refusing to let Alan Moore kill off and (sometimes literally) violate characters they had just acquired for the purposes of a one off storyline. Not everything has some deep artistic explanation. Reminds me of the disconnect between Moore and his fans on Killing Joke. Fans call it a "masterpiece" and "the best comic ever written," the "greatest Batman story ever told" and so on, what does Alan Moore think? "I've never really liked my story in The Killing Joke." There's that old Freud joke "sometimes a cigar, is just a cigar" sometimes Alan Moore says "I'd like to have Peacemaker try to rape Nightshade" and DC comics just says, "fuck you Alan. We *just* bought this shit alright?... Jesus!"

[@TheHolyMustard]

My god this is a fucking beautiful video. You're style is just getting better and better. Keep it up man

[@samwallaceart288]

BTW, based on your previous video I've started tracking down Futurama and watching it as I had never watched it before, and so far it's very enjoyable. I daresay, your channel is actually doing some good, at least by me it is, so thanks.

[@jimpearson8989]

I would love to hear any thoughts you have on HBO's Watchmen! For me, it really elevated the source material by making it more relevant to today.

[@charleynewman5057]

Now I understand what is wrong with Zack Snyder films.

[@Malignant08]

I was introduced to the film by a friend, enjoyed it a lot and have since read the graphic novel. Fantastic piece of work. This video is great. I look forward to watching more of your content.

[@alfredogonzalez9420]

I have to rewatch this every once in a while, it continues to gives me shivers every time.

[@osiancoleman8447]

To be fair the movie is pretty good although the comic is 100000 times better

[@latemammoth]

I really don't understand the hate behind the movie. A movie should never be completely accurate to the book, and even then, the movie is incredibly faithful to that book, and the casting is beyond perfect. Take the killing joke for an example. It was a pretty cool movie (except for the first half of it), but it brought nothing new. It was a carbon copy of that comic, and there really wasn't anything new about it. I respect the choices that snyder made to the story. Great video though.

[@captainjakemerica4579]

The hate is completely warranted it's an insult to one of if not the greatest graphic novel ever

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

@@captainjakemerica4579 stop sucking Moore off, pretty sure you parrot stuff like "The Long Halloween is the best detective story of Batman" people (it's good thriller, but god damn if it's worse than Heavy Rain twist).

[@captainjakemerica4579]

@@mikhaelgribkov4117 Nah I thought Long Halloween was good but not great had a good beginning and end but the middle got tedious and I lost interest and nah Moore is right you're just in denial

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

@@captainjakemerica4579 denial? More like exercising freewill.

[@captainjakemerica4579]

@@mikhaelgribkov4117 not being Darkseid you got freewill and wasn't impeding that

[@jb-kr5vt]

Man I hope you are doing great stuff in the industry now, because you very talented.

[@louispicard2562]

Amazing, your editing, your speech, everything.

[@genarosiles2951]

Who agrees Rosharch should be in #injustice2

[@BD-zg7is]

The best resume any editor will see this year. Well done.

[@HarrisonParish]

Wasn't sure what to expect going into this video, but damn was that a good video, awesome work man, you've just earned another subscriber haha

[@M613M]

I don't think Ozy's costume choice was simply just an "inside joke". Watchmen itself takes a lot of comic book tropes and parodies them in really dark or unusual ways. To have a mass murderer dressed like a character from one of the most G rated superhero movies is kind of fucked up and interesting.

[@Paragon-su8jt]

Yeah but why? The characters in the movie don't know he's dressed like a kids movie. No impact there. Ozy's obsession with Egyptian pharaohs was a big part of his character in the comic. It informed where his character was coming from, gave him a leadership role, "the smartest man in the world", and it was a real twist when you find out he is the villain in the comic. All of that is lost in the movie. From the first or second scene, one could easily guess he's the villain, because he acts like one and the cinematography acts like it. How Nite Owl was able to guess his password on his PC in the movie was Ramses makes no sense. The audience and characters don't really know about that at all. In the comic, Ozy's company makes toys and merch of his superhero persona. That's how you satirize the superhero genre and juxtapose something for kids with something dark, not "heh he looks like that one silly Batman movie".