Water Tank Worries. Landcruiser 2,8 Build @4xoverland

Water tank options. Not so easy any more.
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4xOverland is the world's first global 4WD adventure off-road motoring channel. Established in 1996, it is hosted by well-known 4x4 writer, explorer and filmmaker, Andrew St Pierre White. AKA: ASPW.

[@harryridley2714]

I don’t know how you deal with some of these comments Andrew , you must be a saint , keep up the great content 👍🏼 99.9% of the nation love what you do and your honesty .

[@4xoverland]

Thinking of turning off comments on all build videos. Its like this with almost every one of them.

[@harryridley2714]

@@4xoverland well when there’s just no substance in many of the comments I don’t blame you , off with the comments I say ..

[@CT-oe1ug]

I don’t always enjoy Andrew’s videos but, as someone that started a channel and started to get traction, I know what it takes to have to think up new content every week. I had to stop because the bigger one’s audience, the more one opens oneself up to other people’s opinions. Waking up to abuse from people that totally missed the point is a horrible experience. Hats off to Andrew who has managed to make a career out KZbin and gets up everyday and keeps going at it, regardless of the negativity.

[@billchesser1475]

Off subject: a few years ago you did a “beginner” set-up for your daughter and son-in-law, with I believe, the ability to upgrade things as finances allowed. How has that worked? An update would be interesting.

[@labourlawact7826]

O yes, the Nissan X-Trail build. 🙂

[@AndyM...]

With the underbody tank, don't worry about a filler, you don't need one, I deliberated for weeks about what I was going to do with my Delica for a tank fill, then it suddenly dawned on me I DON"T NEED ONE, I just use the outlet as the filler, I put a quick release hose connection on the outlet, connect it to a tap and bobs your uncle. I can also fill from a bucket which I have done numerous times using a flexible hose and small funnel....easy !!! 🤠😎

[@johanpretorius3759]

Using Jerrycans while waiting for the bespoke forward tank is the best and most practical way to go. Rome was not built in a day.. and before you know it, time will have lapsed, and the new tank will be ready for fitting, and you will have a much better and more satisfying end result. I love the ideas.. It is like seeds to my own vehicle build

[@taurota1554]

Awesome and outstanding as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along

[@nickdattner8680]

I love your show. They are inspiring and refreshing. Hopeful.

[@philg2468]

The stock tall skinny 225/95R16 Bridgestones are fantastic for fuel consumption. Thats one reason why I use them.

[@4xoverland]

thank you. I had to read though a lot of narrow-minded crap to get to your comment.

[@jamesmazurstudios]

@4xoverland Andrew, thanks for your work on this video as it is/was a big question as part of my own build. Keep pushing.

[@SamF-vc9gh]

Love the new build andrew. Its really cool to see all the new products and things and how they fit or dont fit..yet. Im already curious on the choice of colour for the wrap. You always seem to just nail it. I see your going to do kenya in april with the african troopy.. cant wait to watch that series.

[@harmandeepsingh9524]

Keep going Andrew. You are doing great job mate. Might see you one day in Perth

[@KyleAusten1]

Can’t wait for the Africa visit 🐘🐘

[@labourlawact7826]

Me neither. 😅

[@gregbrown5473]

Obviously being a Troopy owner and lover of Toyota's I love seeing the different products you find , try , and design with yourself and friends , I have even brought some of your products like the Egon water hub , Relay hub and even Heiner's power box that he designed excellent products . So keep it up I do have a stainless steel water tank ( 40-45L ) under the back of my old girl ( 75 series ) made up in NSW I think by Thorbands , but you are all sorted there . Yes the Hi Ace will be interesting it's a 4x4 one yeah ..

[@RolandSharp]

I prefer my water in stainless steel anyway. Even food grade plastic is mildly toxic and you can taste it when they heat up

[@johnnumbat9782]

Thanks for your honesty Andrew - let’s allow pure practicality to overrule aesthetics (those that love the V8 sound but ignore the fact that most of us want peace and quiet at 1am) - I’m sure your diligence and experience will produce a good one-vehicle automatic diesel tourer for many of us who don’t want to tow a 3 tonne suicide box, enjoy less fuel costs and a brand we know will get us ‘out there’ and back and still use in urban environments - many will be selling their V8’s to younger bogan chaps that miss their Falcon/Commodore V8 utes to perform donuts at traffic light intersections and sell their family members to get one at all costs.

[@underthelibertytree712]

Andrew does amazing work! Great videos, great builds. I would love to see him do a complete budget build series. His take would be quite interesting. Have 2 or 3 guys do budget builds with the same budget and then take them on a significant trip.

[@4xoverland]

Ive done two budget builds in the last 3 years. Probably won't be doing another one for a while.

[@malcolmL995]

We have a Troopy in Aus that was an ex Maui camper. It has a water tank where you have put yours in the African camper. Made out of heavy PVC plastic. Works great.

[@malcolmL995]

@@zenmachine50no, under the rear between the rear fuel tank and the bumper like the first one at the start of the video

[@barakadegraaf7238]

Hi Andrew, I love your work. Very inspiring. I know you are not a fan of caravans. I would love to see reviews by you on a camper trailer. For us with small families.

[@simonhjc]

This is fabulous. My future depends on this build

[@pbsmick]

Why you don't have 1M+ subscriber's is beyond me...

[@davidpatrick1813]

Good scruples .. I think a good decision and this leaves more space inside for particulars.

[@AJBAdventures]

All the people moaning its "another Troopy Build", does it really matter, its the best and probably one of the most reliable vehicles to get out there in the wilderness and bring us some Epic stories/films in remote places Wish we got them here in the UK although heading out to live/work in Aus would solve that and is a possibility 🤔

[@BeeBeorn]

Correct. And the ones moaning...They seems to be watching the troopy build..whitsh is hilarius. ..Builds and travels is what we like. ASPW is one of the best. I will proably never drive a troopy sunce im in Sweden ( very few troopys) but i can watch and dream..

[@davidvoss1508]

I feel your pain, waiting for anything aftermarket for the new model. BTW, I got about the same mileage from my new V8 when I got it.

[@Lupodimare1234]

Andrew, do you think in heavy off-road you would miss the grunt of the V8 or is the 2.8 Liter good enough? Thanks for your great videos 😊

[@user-tv2us7ng1v]

The amount of salty whiney people commenting negatively on this channel. Honestly, if i watch something i dont like, i just stop watching and i dont like subscribe or comment. Seriously there are many other 4wd/overlanding channels...pick one and stay there. Leave us 4XO fans in peace and unity.

[@michaelhermans4753]

I have a 60l bladder from drifta. Gravity supply and gets smaller when empty Can be removed easily when not needed and cheap

[@labourlawact7826]

I think most of the hating and criticism in the comments comes down to pure jealousy. 🤔

[@railworker8058]

Best channel on YT. I don’t get the negative comments. Whatever you show is useful to someone.

[@moorabinda]

4 litres/100 less. My v8 has 100k on odo. 4,000 litres @ $2/litre approx = $8k extra over that distance. Just hearing that V8 rumble is a bargain…! 😂

[@douger1517]

Bring on the Hiace…please

[@4xoverland]

starting next month.

[@Pkari]

@@4xoverland I'm really looking forward to that one. For me I think it would be a great lesson for Africa travel because every bush mechanic deals with more of them than any other car...and they are much cheaper than the LCs to begin with.

[@michaelkim949]

Long Range Automotive 90lt underbody tank sit forward of the rear axle. Perfect location. Made in Victoria Australia. Is there a reason that one wasn’t suitable?

[@4xoverland]

Yes. The 2.8 has different chassis cross members. They do not fit.

[@BradbakerAu]

Hi Andrew, Ark Earth Products do a 65L underbody tank that is simple to fit

[@alexdeans2990]

Seems like they should have made the tanks taller and moulded to the cavities instead, so they could be easily removed and installed without modifying the body. I'm sure it would make it more expensive to manufacture, but with how common 3D laser scanning tools are these days, someone could make a really neat and easy to install product. I'm thinking similar to how the plastic OEM diesel tank is on the Mercedes Sprinter (and probably many vehicles) with all it's cutouts to account for the vehicle structure.

[@mboyaian]

Hi Andrew. You're an inspiration to some of us. Which tanks are those for the cavity? You did not mention them and they sound like a worthy risk for me. Id be very much interested. Mind giving the name or the link to purchase? From Africa with love ✌️

[@4xoverland]

in the description

[@Harro4870]

you could consider using a water bladder for the inner cavities

[@4xoverland]

the cavities are unsuitable for bladders. Too many bulkheads and sharp edges.

[@UNSINKABLEII]

Have Long Ranger committed to designing a tank for the 2.8 cruiser?

[@4xoverland]

they have not.

[@pretiuminc]

Would bladders in the body cavities be a good option?

[@4xoverland]

Bladders work in spaces that are even without protrusions that can cause wear and cause punctures. The body cavities are the very opposite of that, and if a puncture did occur, the entire interior build (to come) would need to be removed.

[@mansoorahmed3918]

@@4xoverlandMay be multiple small molded tanks, that fit in the cavities, and connected together with water fittings ???? This way no need to cut the body frame components.

[@MrLunithy]

@@mansoorahmed3918 That would be a nightmare to sort out.

[@andrewmatyear5212]

I would like to see your opinion of a sorted V8 with the 8 speed auto thats gaining popularity as a gearbox conversion .

[@4xoverland]

It works very well, I hear. But removes $25K from one's bank account. Is it worth it?

[@iandibley8032]

Yes I am not wrapped in the idea of cutting out strengthing ribs ,Toyota put them there for a reason, agreed too over complicated. I would grab a sheet of template cardboard and design an under body stainless steel tank that fits, and the water would taste better too. A bit of work to achieve but plenty of 2.8 Troopy owers would buy them, $$ to be made with this product.

[@benfarmer94]

Hi Andrew. Just wondering if it’s possible to have the long ranger water tank “cut and shuck” by a local fabrication business to fit the modified cross members under the vehicle?

[@4xoverland]

Are you suggesting I have a 'fabrication business' modify the cross members in Toyota's unbreakable chassis so that the tank can fit? I hope not.

[@benfarmer94]

Sorry for the confusion - modify the tank to suit the car. Although I’m not a fabricator I’ve worked as an accessory fitter for a well known touring vehicle outfitter who also has a fabrication business attached, and this was a regular occurrence to modify aftermarket parts due to unforeseen problem like these. I understand you will loose warranty from long ranger however as long as it’s done correctly by a reputable fabricator theres no reason why they can’t provide their own structural warranty on the modified part, especially for something as basic as a water tank. Bit of fluffing around but would be much less than fluffing around with Jerry’s for a year.

[@4xoverland]

I will wait until they make a dedicated tank. I can't afford to lose this tank in the bush. Only a specialist tank maker understand tanks. Homemade tanks rarely if ever work for long. Especially when made of stainless. Its very brittle.

[@anbu999]

May I suggest to use food grade water bag?

[@4xoverland]

and fit it where?

[@fraserparsons2980]

@@MR-hu1bx watch his video you muppet

[@anbu999]

@@4xoverland Between that body panel and interior panel just like that plastic water tank. You don't have to cut the support structure.

[@Helloworldwrjfjrjrj]

What not thick plastic water bags in cavity like they use in boats

[@4xoverland]

Cavity bags do not work in cavities in vehicles. The vibration quickly wears them through because the cavities are not uniform. I.e that have edges and sharp bits.

[@asavvyman]

@@4xoverlandAndrew, there’s a company in NSW Central Coast that makes water bladders for the marine sector with extremely durable “protection” systems. I’ve used them in my VW T3 Syncro bus.

[@user-jb8mt6vv3l]

Just of note, you do need clear access to the floor to fit the long ranger automotive tanks. You said upon conclusion that you wouldn't need access to the back to fit one.

[@4xoverland]

that is incorrect. The smaller tank does not need access inside the floor.

[@user-jb8mt6vv3l]

@@4xoverland I didn't know that about the smaller tank. Thank you 👍

[@pyrobob208]

Put a straight thru 3" exhaust ( no cat.) on it and you will get some character.

[@Ktmfan450]

Do they sell those at the thongs and Bundy Rum singlet store

[@jarrod1687]

Not with an auto it won't

[@davidmonnin2792]

No mechanic but it seems the new transmission (gearbox) is the key to the difference.

[@labourlawact7826]

Nope. 4 fewer cylinders to feed with expensive diesel is what makes the difference 😺

[@markjennings2315]

Metal/welded tanks with sharp corners will fail on the corrogations

[@Zeebad_1st]

Do you mind telling us the MPG please as a lot of us don't have a clue how much litres per hundred km is. Thanks.

[@4xoverland]

The entire world outside the US use the metric system. The conversion to mpg can be done on your phone.

[@Zeebad_1st]

@@4xoverland except in the UK who for some reason still tell us the MPG in cars despite selling fuel in litres.

[@kromey111]

Did you know LRA do a 60L rear tank ?

[@calvinmacardy5655]

The only downside is it won’t fit with factory Toyota tow bar

[@kromey111]

@@calvinmacardy5655 Correct

[@dewaldmaree2967]

It would be interesting to see actual true fuel consumption calculated from gps km driven devided by the amount of fuel to fill up to full again. Most people just give the consumption that the vehicle displays. In a variety of vehicles i have only found one that was acurate (2005 Mercedes A180 Cdi) the rest was always very optimistic as the actual consumption calculated was much less than the vehicles show. I believe that the only way to get the a true reflection is to calculate it from fillup to fillup.

[@4xoverland]

You are right. I did that, and its not what the Cruiser tells me. I measured 10.1L/100kms after a fill-up, while the car is telling me 9.6L/100kms. Maybe the pump is cheating? Or is the car lying? There is no absolutely reliable way to measure it.

[@dewaldmaree2967]

Thanks for the answer sir, i apreciate it. As the time goes by you will be able to tell who is lying or cheating. Yes i agree one can not be 100% shure that the attendants fills it up to the same level everytime as you will know some guys here in South Africa will spend 15 min at the pump shaking the vehicle and filling again and shaking etc to try to get it full. I let them fill untill auto stop on the pump kicks it off and i found it to be very consistent for me.

[@willreed6231]

Kit obsessed. The amount of travel you actually do..is all this really needed.

[@user-xe6wk2ys3f]

One tends to die in the outback without sufficient water. So the answer is…yes.

[@4xoverland]

YES! And you need it too. Because being caught in the wilderness without water, within 4 days, you are dead.

[@willreed6231]

I should clarified, I mean the entire build. Not just the over complicated water supply

[@willreed6231]

I mean…let’s use Malcom’s Douglass as an example, he didn’t have half this shit. And he pretty much lived remotely, not just a couple big trips a year like you

[@user-xe6wk2ys3f]

The point is the equipment that Andrew uses wasn’t even available when Malcolm Douglas was doing his thing, but I can promise you one thing, had it been available he would have used it.@@willreed6231

[@stephenbarlin2314]

Jerry cans of water make enormous sense. As you use the water in the under body tank you refill it From the Jerry, when the Jerry is empty just pop it on the roof out of the way, till needed for refill. Cheap effective no hassle with loose joints piping , failed pumps , drains , leaks etc etc.

[@shdhrjdi]

You said not fitting the tanks because you could not do it yourself but you weren’t fitting the other ones yourself anyway, and pretty sure you could of fitted the Thorburns rear tank which is Aussie made

[@ryanfogarty4311]

Get a local fabricator to custom make one, if you take that other one you have to him he should be able to make some up similar

[@4xoverland]

Home made tanks are a liability. Tank design, both water and fuel do not look it, but are highly specialised. Bad ones crack and the mountings break. Especially stainless steel, as its very brittle.

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

worked with a guy the other day who has the v8, 550km range for 100L

[@4xoverland]

my V8 typically would get 600kms from 85L

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

@@4xoverland this was lifted, standard tyres but roof racks

[@Dennis-1367]

This is weird, it shows me "subscribe to Ronny Dahl" bottom right in the window, in fullscreen only. Are you being replaced? Haha

[@4xoverland]

Have I been hacked?

[@Dennis-1367]

@@4xoverland seems like a KZbin bug on tablet versions with the watermark being transferred to later videos. Saw the 4xo tree logo when test watching on the phone

[@darrengray2309]

Of course the labour is cheaper in South Africa there is another channel on KZbin who shipped their Landrover from Australia to South Africa. And then had it changed from a dual cab to a xtra cab. What i noticed is all the business they used the bosses and owners were white south Africans and the Employees were black South African's.

[@darrengray2309]

@@zenmachine50 grizzly and bear

[@labourlawact7826]

If you lived in South Africa, you would understand why. There's nothing wrong with it, it makes complete sense. I'm not going to elaborate...

[@aggitravel]

Thinking of using one of my Jerry cans for extra 20 litre that will give me 62 litres and have the other one for diesel. I just mark it as water only. Not used any Jerry cans yet so all god for water.

[@malcolmL995]

You can buy proper food grade 20l water jerry cans. They are blue(usually) in colour. I use a couple of them for drinking water. Not taste.

[@aggitravel]

@@malcolmL995 will be just for shower or cleaning tho. I have a 42litre water tank from front runner. Thought I’d use the Jerry can as another.

[@malcolmL995]

@@aggitravelah, fair enough, you hadn’t said that. Only thing I would worry about is some other idiot not reading the label, thinking it’s fuel and tipping it into your fuel tank. 😂😂

[@labourlawact7826]

Don't you get black one's for fuel, and then you can use the green ones for water? Or just paint it blue for water. 🤷‍♂️

[@malcolmL995]

@@labourlawact7826no, I think it’s usually red for diesel and yellow for petrol or vice versa? Light blue is food grade. Not sure what green is for but I think from memory that I have seen them labeled but can’t remember what? That aside, he already has the jerry cans I think?

[@michaelharris1455]

For all the folks griping about another troopy build, maybe consider that Andrew has shown different varitions of troopy builds, and just maybe someone has found one, or a combination of a few, that they feel might work for them. I believe Andrew has offered a great deal of information, and ideas, for folks wanting to build their own. I'm not even a Toyota guy, but I've gotten some good ideas for my older full-sized Jeep from this channel, thank you very much.

[@user-fj5gk5kh8u]

Just an observation. Sorry to upset you.

[@tonydownunder5703]

I take it is not a V8 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

[@4xoverland]

eh?

[@mblake0420]

Just wait till you build it out, lph mpg gains will disappear when you are in the turbo just to move

[@4xoverland]

you might be right. Time will tell.

[@labourlawact7826]

I don't think so. The Hilux engine is a bloody good engine, with more than enough power.

[@mblake0420]

@labourlawact7826 you will see. You know what makes an old truck worth fixing or not? If an old truck needs a turbo just say that costs 1k plus labor to install, it totals the truck. There are reasons old GM cars and trucks dominate and are still on the road, simple, reliable, cheap parts.

[@mblake0420]

@labourlawact7826 that's just long term reliability argument, being in turbo is gonna eat fuel like a v8

[@labourlawact7826]

@@mblake0420 But the V8 also has turbo's. 2 of them actually

[@davidthomas9267]

I think just buying a caravan would of been easier. Now that you have made it to Caravanier age!!

[@4xoverland]

not worth a comment.

[@jezza4193]

@@4xoverland haha pearler. I am currently watching any inheritance that my parents may have had for my sister and I disappearing out the exhaust pipe and flushed down the toilet of their 3rd caravan in 5 years. The only problem is they still haven't travelled more than 300kms from home in Bunbury.

[@FordJ1]

@4xoverland he got a comment from you anyway 😂

[@davidthomas9267]

that was the idea!@@FordJ1

[@gregbrown5473]

But it is funny tho Andrew🤔🤣🤣 but a caravan is not practical for your type of travel @@4xoverland

[@A.J.Lawson]

Completely pointless episode. You’re taking jetty cans! Brilliant.

[@kato695]

Have a crack mate, grab the grinder and start cutting, and install those tanks. Have some faith in yourself, after all your an intelligent individual and its only a bit of cutting and a few holes, worst case and panel beater can put it back to how it is now with a few welds bit of putty and paint.

[@Venom-nk8nd]

🇵🇬🇵🇬,.,.

[@jb243wp]

With all the mucking around, lost time and cost, easier just to go to Woolies and get a few 10ltr goon bags of filtered water 😂😂😂😂

[@4xoverland]

Great. Find the easy route and learn nothing. You'll go far.

[@tosgem]

If you're carting a water tank mate you will want the power of the big v8. Should not of gotten the 2.8

[@4xoverland]

there would have been little point in selling my V8 to buy a V8.

[@tosgem]

@@4xoverland oh wow, I didn't expect you to even read this, let alone reply. I was being provocative. Immature of me I know! But nobody took the bait. Take care.

[@ryansearlybronco]

Another troopy build. So original. Love your content and will continue to watch but it’s a bit boring. Do another classic or something.

[@4xoverland]

We are building a HiAce 4WD starting next month.

[@ozzinedyoutubechannel1851]

too complicated bud....messy

[@4xoverland]

its complicated because its a new model. Out of my control bud.

[@Daniel-pv8jl]

I understand you are obsessed with the troopy but come on, try something new so we can see what else there is. You don’t travel that often or do anything that you would need a troopy.

[@4xoverland]

How about a 4wd HiAce? That build begins next week.

[@calvinmacardy5655]

Troopys for life!!!

[@douger1517]

Can’t wait for the Hiace please…

[@nickgood8166]

Andrew, You're not 'building a Troop Carrier.' That was done by Toyota in Japan. You're accessorising it, fitting it out etcetera. They are not the same thing.

[@4xoverland]

Nick. Yours is an alternative but in this case, incorrect use of the word. Toyota manufactured the base car. Its not an overlander. We now build an overlander using it as a base vehicle. 'Build' is the most commonly phrase used in this industry, by the makers of accessories including tyres, tanks, recovery gear, lights, bars, tents, etc. Its an industry standard.

[@nickgood8166]

@@4xoverland To conflate accessorising a Troopie or any 4x4, with building it, is good old fashioned hyperbole, arguments from authority don't change that. I eventually commented, because you use the term consistently; every time I hear it, it grates. Perhaps I'm an outlying anal pedant! Either way, it's not the end of the World. Good luck with the vehicle.

[@stevenloynds3691]

Honestly your builds are awesome....but...getting boring all your builds are pretty much cut and paste from troopy to troooy 😴 seriously what you going to do differently it's always a product slam down our throats the only bloody difference here is the engine and that's nothing different that you can change other then you as always the same build...it's time to prove your a true journalist and think outside the box of your comfort zone that you know like the back of your hand....let's see if your a true overlander builder and pick another platform 😉 let's see what you can build

[@4xoverland]

this is complete different in every way. First time with rear tank, first time trying cavity tanks. Think before you have a go at me. Contribute before criticism.

[@onneb90]

He is also building the Hiace 4x4 this year, so thats definitely something different. Can't wait for that build.

[@darrenc4096]

Couldn’t agree more. Andrew was magic in his series doing the CSR with his green Troopy then the Simpson desert in the same car. The films were epic and took the viewer along on a front seat ride. I really wish he’d get back to what he does best and move on from the repetitive same old same old.

[@4xoverland]

I appreciate the comment. But if these are the trips you remember, then you are missing most of my videos. I've done a dozen major trips since those.

[@doradosurfcharters]

Pull that heap of shit engine out and do a barra swap so you can drag those patrol kids off give the audience what they want 😂

[@brettmcdonald4138]

You do good videos mate but the constant pause in you verbal delivery gets very annoying.

[@4xoverland]

I'm gutted. What should I do now? Start a gardening company and quit my dream job. OR . . . you could go and annoy another KZbinr with inane criticism and the problem is solved. Decisions. Decisions.

[@brettmcdonald4138]

@@4xoverland So you put yourself out in the public eye for every one to see, but get upset when comments are made towards you. All comments cannot be “O Andrew your such a great man “ Maybe you should be gardening. I have only stated a fact. It’s an observation. It’s also true. Yet your sarcasm and your comment remind me of my teenage son’s vocabulary. Yep decisions need to be made. Happy days.

[@wldmhd]

In 2:46 mins you are actually very rude, how dare you

[@4xoverland]

that's my son in law. They laughed. This is what friends do. These two are merciless to me in the workshop. You should get some real friends so you can recognised friendship when you see it.