Watercooling guide for beginners

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JayzTwoCents

JayzTwoCents

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@jackhamilton6284
@jackhamilton6284 8 жыл бұрын
As someone who has never done a custom loop before and wants to, I would like to see a series like this: 1. Soft vs. Harline tubing 2. Pump and Reservoirs 3. Blocks 4. Radiators and Fans (fin density, different sizes, etc.) 5. Fittings (with sizing being a big focus) 6. Fluids 7. Loops (ie. like the parallel loop in Skunkworks) 8. Other (ie drains and other small parts) For each I would give a suggestion as to which parts are the best. I know that there is no "one size fits all" solution, but some pointers as to where to look and some known good parts would be great.
@DICEMAN60
@DICEMAN60 5 жыл бұрын
Did he ever make a video on this?
@gabrielmaria2762
@gabrielmaria2762 5 жыл бұрын
@@GuitaristJeimuzu Reading your comment i thought he made a guide which u have to buy, and I was dissapointed. Searching for it i was like "Oh, alright, Jay's still cool."
@mikeycrispy5169
@mikeycrispy5169 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I want to water cool my PC because heat temperature is one of dangerous things for most PC gamers for high FPS the more high graphic and high FPS means more heat will produce from your graphic card this is why I was planning on December holidays season I am going to water cool my gaming PC for the first time but I will use "super glue and tape" so the water won't leak from the holes.
@ano_nym
@ano_nym Жыл бұрын
@@mikeycrispy5169 'I will use "super glue and tape" so the water won't leak from the holes' lmao, how did it go?
@MrPerforations
@MrPerforations 7 ай бұрын
i would go for soft tubing, barb fitting as they are more reliable and cheaper, about 360 -720 worth of single width with one set of fans in push or pull or 360-480 double width radiator with push and pull fans. if you live somwhere very hot, push and pull to help cope with ambient temprature. a kit is the best idea for a starter but the the above rules.
@AngelLuisTrinidad
@AngelLuisTrinidad 8 жыл бұрын
No need to apologize for the video quality, it's just fine. Thank you Jay. And yes, I'm interested on watching the moving vlogs.
@totallynotaseaotter4946
@totallynotaseaotter4946 8 жыл бұрын
+Angel Luis Trinidad I wonder if he's moving out of California.
@-zerocool-
@-zerocool- 8 жыл бұрын
+Angel Luis Trinidad It probably does look fine on your 1080p screen, a lot of us have 4K :P
@koczka9175
@koczka9175 8 жыл бұрын
+zerocool Then you have to lean in poor guy :/
@totallynotaseaotter4946
@totallynotaseaotter4946 8 жыл бұрын
zerocool Seems like 4k displays are more noticeable in Gaming then in Video playback. The Higher color bit rate might be Noticeable I guess.
@-zerocool-
@-zerocool- 8 жыл бұрын
I probably wouldnt notice if I had a 28" but i gats a 40" :P
@K3V0M
@K3V0M 8 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see a list of recommended manufacturers. Something like "take anything from these guys and you have a high quality loop" Also general advice for problems that you will encounter when building a loop.
@cwalker457
@cwalker457 8 жыл бұрын
He said EK and Alpha Cool are really good bets to get high quality parts.
@cwalker457
@cwalker457 8 жыл бұрын
*Disclaimer, this is from what I remember, from a previous comment and/or video I remember from him.
@emsj86
@emsj86 8 жыл бұрын
+Cameron Shelgren I'd suggest going to legit forums for water cooling. Not to say jay is but conflict of interest with sponsors kind of skews the answers
@emsj86
@emsj86 8 жыл бұрын
Ekwb our great. Bits power our good but cost a lot. Barrow sells basically the exact same bits power fittings for half the cost. Xspc isn't bad. There out other good brands by those or the most frequent used.
@jdrakehoffman
@jdrakehoffman 8 жыл бұрын
+K3V0M THIS! I'm also curious if phobya are a decent brand. they seem on the cheaper end, but I associate that name w/ watercooling, so I'm not sure.
@TheDonorak
@TheDonorak 4 жыл бұрын
watching in 2020 the 980 ti plug was a blast from the past
@Synzoo
@Synzoo 8 жыл бұрын
jayz you've been doing water cooling for a long time and said you use to do it with aquarium equipment before specific PC water cooling parts were available, you should do a video on you making a water cooled PC with the same method as you use to :D would be cool to see how you did it and how good it would hold up now and would also be an awesome video
@mephustowest1876
@mephustowest1876 7 жыл бұрын
I am wanting to get into watercooling for a few reasons. First I think it looks good, and second I like to overclock and stay quiet. I like how much I am able to learn from your videos. Thanks for keeping them simple.
@ssbmfan4
@ssbmfan4 8 жыл бұрын
heatsinks are not zero maintinence. blow out your dust, guys!!
@peterpimmelmann3330
@peterpimmelmann3330 8 жыл бұрын
+David Naoum i have an air cooled pc since 2012, which i never cleaned. it ran fine until i retired it a few months ago. my mom uses it now as an office pc. still dusty. no issues.
@dgafkucky
@dgafkucky 8 жыл бұрын
+David Naoum yes and never put a cheap performing fan on the heat sink
@peterpimmelmann3330
@peterpimmelmann3330 8 жыл бұрын
***** noctua ftw
@dgafkucky
@dgafkucky 8 жыл бұрын
+Peter Pimmelmann noctua is over rated to me and cool master is to they never seem to last more than few months at 24/7 use I love my COUGAR CF-V12HPB Vortex Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing fans
@peterpimmelmann3330
@peterpimmelmann3330 8 жыл бұрын
***** i´m sorry, could you repeat?
@timsnow1588
@timsnow1588 7 жыл бұрын
Love the passion. Hard not to get stoked on water cooling when you have the Yoda of water cooling and can see his passion shine through, very cool.
@nickcostick461
@nickcostick461 8 жыл бұрын
what I learned today from jay: ions are crack to de-ionized liquids
@zabdi786
@zabdi786 8 жыл бұрын
I've been teaching for awhile at a college/university level. One thing that helps me when I teach is constantly reminding myself: I was an idiot too at one point. With that in mind, I try to remember all the stupid things floating in my head and all the misconceptions I had about a topic, then address that to my students as a teacher. Just systematically approach the problems you had with watercooling when you first started, and tell us about it. I'd advice thinking back to your first water cooled system/part and talk about all the things you did wrong and learned. Because we will be going through the same thing. Love your videos. I will probably never water cool since I am lazy when it comes to maintenance, but I watch your videos nevertheless because I just love learning...and you're a good teacher :)
@Andru
@Andru 8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video bro! Great explanations and examples. Keep doing your thing!
@OldBuford
@OldBuford 7 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your detailed explanations, I feel a little more confident in my coming up DIY water cooling project (doing it just for fun because I'm not into crazy over clocking) looks like I'm going to do A LOT more research before buying parts and liquid.
@Charliened1
@Charliened1 7 жыл бұрын
Me: do I really need water cooling Also me: YES
@zmccllc2096
@zmccllc2096 8 жыл бұрын
You make the best videos ever Jay. Really. Sound, video, knowledge...all for free to us. Thank you so much for all of your help!
@BBQJOE22
@BBQJOE22 8 жыл бұрын
about watercooling, you give a good exemple of a simple loop, but what about 2 blocks or more type of loop? Are there things to look out for when building more complex loops?
@Jayztwocents
@Jayztwocents 8 жыл бұрын
+BBQJOE22 YES.. and I will cover those things when the new shop is done.
@atlantis394
@atlantis394 8 жыл бұрын
+JayzTwoCents Thanks ! I need info about 4x GPU watercooling :3
@Peliass100
@Peliass100 8 жыл бұрын
+Harry Lawton It shouldn't do that, since ionisation is basically taking electrons off (or transferring to) the metal and binding it into the water molecules, there may be coloration depending on the metal, but not flaking. Flaking is more of a corrosion issue that only comes into play later. Also keep in mind that even if water isn't capable of taking electrons off its environment, it begins ionizing *itself* anyway. Amazing when you think of that really.
@ash0787
@ash0787 8 жыл бұрын
+JayzTwoCents Jayz question - what tool do you use to tighten fittings which are difficult to reach / too resistant to do with fingers for example doing a CPU to VRM block connection with short hard pipe, 90 degrees, extenders and spacers ? I have been using standard pliers but I find that it strips the metal finish off from the fitting grips and leaves metal dust around the area. Also I had a minor leak when I changed to the clear supremacy block same as yours, because it wasn't obvious that the thing was screwed in all the way because the gap was difficult to see due to the transparent surface Thats like to be the thing that people have issues with, for example the first water build I did was in a corsair 450D with a top mounted AX 360, it was really difficult to get the radiator installed and the compression fitting on the radiator port was basically hitting the IO blocks on the motherboard, it was nearly impossible to tighten the fittings ( later switched to a 30mm radiator with monsoon 90 degree fitting
@timyt13
@timyt13 8 жыл бұрын
+BBQJOE22 1 120mm radiator per block (2 per overclocked part)
@christopherhurtle7167
@christopherhurtle7167 8 жыл бұрын
I got into water cooling watching your videos. I used the information you gave to build my first water cooling loop. Graphics card and cpu cooled by 2 radiators with a d5 pump aprox 42 degree Temps under load. no leaks same fluid for about 2 years but wasn't used aprox 1 yr. Ice dragon fluid some settling has happened. I just tipped the case with pump running. It all blended back to normal.
@ElZamo92
@ElZamo92 8 жыл бұрын
You're awesome Jay : )
@austinduff8833
@austinduff8833 6 жыл бұрын
ElZamo92 can I borrow 40 dollars
@gigabot3662
@gigabot3662 8 жыл бұрын
As you suggested Jay, the liquid IO ports are what I myself am hung up on. I have a truly massive space available to me and more rad space than I could ever even possibly want, so the part that I need to learn is fluid control and management. For those curious I'm using the Thermaltake Core X9 case ($165).
@kkzooi
@kkzooi 8 жыл бұрын
why not make a playlist or something called ''watercooling for beginners'' and put in some informative videos about the basics. maybe an advanced watercooling playlist for the more advanced wanting to expand and go further. and maybe on the side a maintenance playlist? i think that would cover about anything and you could just refer people to one of those playlists.
@Clay_333
@Clay_333 8 жыл бұрын
I am definitely interested in your input on installing drains. I am trying to figure out the best way to install a drain in my loop right now. Another thing I would be really interested in is your input on multiple pump setups. Whether it be parallel or series as well as mismatched pumps. I have read a great article about it and their conclusion was that the best setup was actually mismatched pumps (a D5 and DDC if I remember correctly) in series. One other thing I would like to hear your opinion on is when you should split your loop into multiple loops and the benefits and drawbacks you get from each option. Thanks alot for what you do. I really appreciate it. It is nice having someone do videos on something that few people are actually heavily invested in.
@martinstedtler
@martinstedtler 8 жыл бұрын
One thing that always comes short in your watercooling vids (and from other youtubers) is noise of the systems. And here I mean pump noise especially!! For many people just like me, temps are not the primary target of watercooling, but a virtually silent system. I would love if you mention pump noises and other noises on aio's in your future videos, because these are the reason that I have not watercooled my system yet... greetings from germany :)
@tomhuck9640
@tomhuck9640 8 жыл бұрын
Meine D5 läuft ruhig und kann sie nicht hören. Außer man geht mit dem Ohr direkt an die Pumpe. Wobei dort einem eher das Wasser auffällt.
@martinstedtler
@martinstedtler 8 жыл бұрын
I have just bad experience with pumps.. last ohne was the fractal kelvin s24. It was not totally bad, but still the loudest part on my pc. I have no space for a custum loop with d5 pump in my super tiny case^^ (ich schreib einfach mal auf englisch, dass jeder was von hat^^)
@tomhuck9640
@tomhuck9640 8 жыл бұрын
Ok. Which case do you have?
@martinstedtler
@martinstedtler 8 жыл бұрын
Silverstone rvz01, but pretty heavily modified.. Here a few pics: www.overclock.net/t/1466816/silverstone-raven-rvz01-rvz02-ml07-ml08-ftz01-owners-club/3690 www.overclock.net/t/1466816/silverstone-raven-rvz01-rvz02-ml07-ml08-ftz01-owners-club/4830 It is very nice and quiet, but a loop in there would be awesome^^ some ppl have don it, but very skilled people -.-
@tomhuck9640
@tomhuck9640 8 жыл бұрын
Yes you are right. There it's Hard to build a custom loop. But you could. Do Ek offer a monoblock for your Motherboard?
@liquidmetal17
@liquidmetal17 8 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you make in depth videos for each of the components involved in water cooling (including fans!) covering things like what the different specifications and features mean, the differences between materials, recommended brands, recommended vendors, and anything else you can possibly think of. I'd also like to see a video covering your thought process when designing loops and why you would or would not recommend certain configurations. Thank you very much for all of your hard work!
@KevinDay
@KevinDay 8 жыл бұрын
Really not trying to nitpick or anything... but he keeps saying "translucent" when talking about the orange test loop... but doesn't he mean opaque? Normally he gets that right so I'm slightly confused. Aren't translucent dyed fluids a little easier to maintain than the opaque fluids?
@Jayztwocents
@Jayztwocents 8 жыл бұрын
+Kevin Day (MarioAran) I do mean opaque, words are hard :(
@letmeintroduceyou8426
@letmeintroduceyou8426 8 жыл бұрын
+JayzTwoCents Is there corrosion in aio watercoolings ?
@letmeintroduceyou8426
@letmeintroduceyou8426 8 жыл бұрын
+JayzTwoCents Is there corrosion in aio watercoolings ?
@cazandmal
@cazandmal 8 жыл бұрын
+Let Me Introduce You not typically, the coolant isn't the weak link, but the pumps typically are. most As AIO coolers should last the life of your system, assuming you don't get a bad one.
@antonioilijevic9031
@antonioilijevic9031 8 жыл бұрын
+JayzTwoCents lol :)
@CocoaNutCakery
@CocoaNutCakery 8 жыл бұрын
I prefer these kind of videos because I crave this sort of information. I'm sure a lot of others feel the same. So it's not much work for you and it's good for those of us that like them. A win/win.
@ProjectMysticApostolate
@ProjectMysticApostolate 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Jay! Watching this in November of 2019.
@simonbrodersen5198
@simonbrodersen5198 5 жыл бұрын
Arvin Lee me too
@mig23zcyther
@mig23zcyther 4 жыл бұрын
2020 here!!
@placeholder5982
@placeholder5982 6 жыл бұрын
All I thought about was which cooling solution cools better, now because of this video I have a more important question to think of and that's about maintenance. Thank You Very Much for this!
@JebsonofJeb
@JebsonofJeb 8 жыл бұрын
Where is Jay moving?Hopefully he stays somewhere in California so i can accidently meet him.
@Jayztwocents
@Jayztwocents 8 жыл бұрын
+Crafty Coin yep, staying local.
@DoerakNL
@DoerakNL 8 жыл бұрын
+Crafty Coin "Accidently"
@philipcamuto7359
@philipcamuto7359 7 жыл бұрын
SwaggerBoyNL lol
@tangerinetech5300
@tangerinetech5300 5 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't stock Jay on the reg
@ryanwilson5936
@ryanwilson5936 5 жыл бұрын
Tangerine Tech My shelves are always full of Jay.
@gary00832
@gary00832 6 жыл бұрын
you never ramble its all quality suggestions and content , great video
@anthonynurse1858
@anthonynurse1858 7 жыл бұрын
" It's like CRACK for them "... good explanation jay
@Cyndustries_
@Cyndustries_ 8 жыл бұрын
I have not made a custom loop, but will be doing it soon thanks to your information and advice. You mentioned it in this video, but my only concern is how to properly drain the loop/where to install the draining part, etc.
@battery_solar_ev
@battery_solar_ev 7 жыл бұрын
what about mineral oil?
@butre.
@butre. 5 жыл бұрын
Poor thermal conductivity. Works for submerged cooling because of the massive thermal mass, but trying to run it through a radiator will just lead to worse thermals than air. Thermal conductivity of oil is 0.136 W-m/K vs .609 W-m/k for water. It's about the most thermally conductive liquid at room temperature with the exception of murcury. Phase change cooling is a better solution if you want it to fail safe.
@inee107
@inee107 4 жыл бұрын
car coolant?
@rgpsoccer165
@rgpsoccer165 7 жыл бұрын
I am so thankful for all your water cooling videos they are very helpful
@TuxedoedChris
@TuxedoedChris 8 жыл бұрын
Take a few of the most popular PC cases from pcpartpicker, and do a build log on each, I'm sure that many have googled how to do a custom loop in their specific cases. Also, you could just include where to put the reservoir and pump to save time. Hope you end up reading this :D
@angelgaubeca6635
@angelgaubeca6635 7 жыл бұрын
For me you the God on Water cooling subject and a true fact is that now, a friend of mine just got his loop and he is really interested in having a company or founding a company to offer custom loop creations and overclocking services here on Panama... If we manage to pull this off will let you know via youtube, please don't stop making Guides of watercooling EVER !!!!!!!!
@haramaschabrasir8662
@haramaschabrasir8662 7 жыл бұрын
"It's like crack for them" - Chemistry with Jay
@spacep0d
@spacep0d 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for that! Don't worry about the rambling. I love the detailed info you bring and for me, that's the real value of this and other videos (and the humorous asides are fun too).
@ThunderKat
@ThunderKat 8 жыл бұрын
Make a PC build with motherboard looking down...That way water liks can't touch any component under failure. (custom tower)
@ThunderKat
@ThunderKat 8 жыл бұрын
Actually it should work better on a horizontal tower cause water heigh travel get shorter than in a standard vertical tower. But if preasure is high i dont think this would help at all.
@LETHALF90
@LETHALF90 8 жыл бұрын
+Thunder Kat either way the water (or water ever liquid cooler) would still pump to the components to cool them. So if it were to leak, even upside down, everything will die?
@LETHALF90
@LETHALF90 8 жыл бұрын
+Medo Gabr **.
@vargurlord
@vargurlord 8 жыл бұрын
+Thunder Kat well failure is not something you want, so doing something to prevent damage under failure is not something you normaly prepare.
@ThunderKat
@ThunderKat 8 жыл бұрын
vargurlord Tell that to the NASA and those quadruple fail system they build as back-up systems ^^
@Balomis
@Balomis 8 жыл бұрын
I'd love to learn more about radiator variations. Comparing thick, normal, and thin rads with 120/140mm widths in different lengths would be really cool! Also more discussion about fans, SP vs AF, benefits of push/pull and potential deficits. Seeing a reservoir-free loop like you mentioned in this video, especially in a space-limited build where one might have no other option would be really interesting. Maybe even a custom cable sleeving video if you haven't already? Any thing you do will be great, even this casual video had some really good information in it! Keep up the great work Jay and best of luck on the move!
@MegadetH666ksa
@MegadetH666ksa 8 жыл бұрын
At the end, Air coolers is just safer and quieter :)
@MegadetH666ksa
@MegadetH666ksa 8 жыл бұрын
Catch fire..... ok. Annnnd Jay himself got water leak in his system XD
@MegadetH666ksa
@MegadetH666ksa 8 жыл бұрын
Well my pc is clean af all the time with my fractal design r5 and Be quiet Dark rock 3 :)
@MegadetH666ksa
@MegadetH666ksa 8 жыл бұрын
I picked the case because it's so damn silent and my cpu coolers is too quiet XD
@NBFaded2497
@NBFaded2497 8 жыл бұрын
+Fahad_Nomna7 Safer yes. Quieter no. I have 9 fans that stay below 800 rpm. My build is dead silent with two gtx 980's and an i7 4790K @ 4.7ghz.
@francopellegrin4437
@francopellegrin4437 8 жыл бұрын
My case is the windows XP stupid pre-built 2003 edition. I have a pentium g3258 and a 750ti in there.
@NBWDOUGHBOY
@NBWDOUGHBOY 8 жыл бұрын
Im so glad u mentioned a drain port. because every video I watch they NEVER, NEVER, NEVER Say anything about a drain port. Thank you
@MrRonan99
@MrRonan99 8 жыл бұрын
Last time I came this early my girlfriend left me....
@sime3250
@sime3250 8 жыл бұрын
10/10 not the 3 time i read this ...
@j3pp3stekarN
@j3pp3stekarN 8 жыл бұрын
+John Cena 2 un-original memes in 1 comment
@MrRonan99
@MrRonan99 8 жыл бұрын
+Hank Hill Hank Hill? Insulting? Bitching about someone making a comment? Guy still living with his mother spotted.
@Nionix123
@Nionix123 8 жыл бұрын
Who did you guys kill to get those names
@toasty4000000
@toasty4000000 8 жыл бұрын
+Nionix Literally anyone can do that.
@zacbone9182
@zacbone9182 8 жыл бұрын
i love those watercooling vid thumbnails, they are so flashy and colorful!
@YTCENS0R
@YTCENS0R 8 жыл бұрын
And I thought Jeremy Kyle didn't do technology.
@Hkhawkins
@Hkhawkins 8 жыл бұрын
Don't apologize, I really learned a lot from this video and am subscribing to learn about the filling and draining options that you mentioned you might do a video on
@Dogsparkster
@Dogsparkster 7 жыл бұрын
I want to work for jay,for free lol
@christopherstaricha8620
@christopherstaricha8620 8 жыл бұрын
I've watched a lot of your liquid cooling videos. I think I can pick and choose the hardware I'd need to do it. What I haven't seen a video on what to add to the system to maintain it. Flushing the parts before you assemble them, or cleaning out an older system. Do you have a schedule? Do you do something weekly, monthly, semi annually, or annually? Any of the maintaining a system would be an awesome video! Thanks for doing them!
@ldsgbossman3837
@ldsgbossman3837 8 жыл бұрын
When you first get a loop running inside the system I'd suggest putting paper towels over all the fittings (in case of leaking) and let it run for 24 hours, if it passes the leak test then you're good. Depending on how much heat runs through your system re-fill your loop every 6-12 months (6 if you have a LOT of heat, 12+ if you have hardly any) and make sure nothing is 'breaking down' or anything. If you do anything to your loop (aka refill it or something) always make sure to do a leak test just in case, better safe than sorry
@Drad_
@Drad_ 8 жыл бұрын
278th
@mygetrichslowplan
@mygetrichslowplan 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, the way I like to describe the difference between cooling is actually by starting with how they are the same, and what factors change between the two after that. Basically, I say the whole point of cooling is taking a lot of heat in one small area, and moving it somewhere and spreading it out to a large area where it's dissipated by some form of airflow (whether by a fan, or just by convection as with some passive coolers). The differences between different types of coolers, be they air or liquid is how fast and how far the heat is moved, and how large the area on which it is spread is. Something like a stock cooler won't move the heat away very far or very fast, and really doesn't have that much area to spread to, so it's not as efficient. Stepping up to something like a tower cooler (i.e. Hyper 212) it uses heatpipes to carry the heat away faster, and it carries it away farther up to the fin array, and then it has said fin array which is much larger, so it's cooling is overall much better. Then, you can keep going up all the way to the extreme, such as skunkworks, where you have multiple large radiators hooked up to a water loop. Here, water takes the heat VERY far away (relative to a stock cooler) and VERY quickly, and spreads it over a positively MASSIVE area, allowing for extreme cooling. I like to describe it like this, because it makes it very clear how and why different cooling methods are effective.
@NerdConfederation
@NerdConfederation 6 жыл бұрын
This is a horrible "guide" for beginners. You're not teaching anything to anyone. You're just mentioning what Watercooling is, and should've honestly named this video "What is Watercooling". A guide actually teaches beginners how to apply Watercooling. But this video just didn't do that. It didn't show me if reservoir/pump positioning mattered, what the differences are in tubing, HOW to tube, WHERE to tube, and arguably the most important part, Maintenance.
@Jayztwocents
@Jayztwocents 6 жыл бұрын
I’ll hand hold you in the next one
@NerdConfederation
@NerdConfederation 6 жыл бұрын
To me it has little to do with handholding. I find you to be one of the most reliable and reputable sources on most computer building things, along with LTT. I was hoping for something more on the lines of an actual guide before I'd invest 200$+ on something that could go horribly wrong as a beginner. You yourself said several times throughout this video that this type of cooling could very potentially break just about everything in a computer. I'd love to make an actual Watercooled build, but without an actual detailed build or guide emphasizing on how to actually implement watercooling, I just don't see it viable. I'm hoping that if you do a new video on Watercooling, that it may enlighten me more. Maybe after a more hands on video I'd dare to try a watercooled build for its full beauty. Until then, I'm just saying that this video is honestly somewhat misleading for its title, and that I'm none the wiser after having watched it. Decent video though, and surprising response time though for a video that's dated almost 2 years, so mad props to you on that.
@KCdoesVOXMetalVocalist
@KCdoesVOXMetalVocalist 8 жыл бұрын
@Jay - Simply put, you are easily becoming the "water-cooling king" on KZbin for a plethora of reasons. Please, keep the videos coming, especially on any and all topics regarding water-cooling PC components... and keep your water-cooling playlist organized, a lot of refer to it when doing our builds.
@TheFrazfraz1
@TheFrazfraz1 8 жыл бұрын
A step by step guide to custom loop construction with the various options including best parts from EK! - Which reservoir? where to put it, which pump where to put that in relation to reservoir. VRM & Mosfets how to install, motherboard water block where to install exactly etc......covering all bases divided into video series Jayz. I'm considering water cooling but am getting cold feet now due to maintenance aspects. Also vids on beeding systems - Everything!!!! I built a computer from scratch but never previously so why not go a stage or two further and if done successfully can be replicated or cut down to smaller systems. Get the vids done - I'm a beginner water cooler ! - So get your knowledge across to get some awesome systems
@gh0stp1rate
@gh0stp1rate 8 жыл бұрын
A full detailed video on how to drain your loop would definitely be good because even though you have a drain system incorporated in the loop, it's not as simply turning the handle on a valve fitting.
@johncaperna3435
@johncaperna3435 8 жыл бұрын
This is the type of content I like to see. Only thing I can ask is if you have suggestion on manufacturers when it comes to building a water cooling system, for those of us who are just getting into it. Thanks Jay!
@Jarb2104
@Jarb2104 8 жыл бұрын
One thing I would like to hear from you, is planning the loop, where water goes, when, first radiator, then reservoir, then pump, if you split (Y split ?) to move the fluid to the blocks or have one single long loop going to one block at a time. When you should consider having more than one loop, etc. Also, would there be any benefits on having a bigger reservoir? 2 pumps? etc.
@scottkailey1
@scottkailey1 5 жыл бұрын
If you cant see thru the fluid don't use it unless you like maintenance. EK fluid is great!
@jbaketkd
@jbaketkd 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just starting to get into more advanced pc builds. I just found you, and you are my new go to for pc info!
@PixelsWorkshopVideos
@PixelsWorkshopVideos 7 жыл бұрын
Based on my experience, without ever overclocking one of 2 of my past video cards, they died due to temperature issues, some pieces desoldered due to high temperatures and end up dying, As an Electrical Engineering student I discovered this while trying to "repair them", found out that I needed a lot of equipment and a non-shaking hand to do the job, then I discovered water cooling back in the day, it gives me what I wanted, which is maximum life span of my electronic circuits and what other people see as "risk" for me, it's just maintenance, change the liquid regularly (based exactly on what this video said), be smart and design your loop, for the fittings, if they ever leak, to drop the liquid in a not critical area, put your video card away with a "riser card", put it vertically so the block its vertical and the fitting perpendicular to it, so if something leaks, it falls off parallel to the card instead over it, be clever and no system will defeat you. Remember, you always get what you look for.
@thedrowningknight
@thedrowningknight 8 жыл бұрын
I love the long rambley informational videos!
@RIPFPSDOUG
@RIPFPSDOUG 5 жыл бұрын
I know this is a very old video for your Jay, but I thought I could share a tip. If conductivity is a worry of someones; a simple regular electrolysis test can make people feel much more comfortable. To Do So: Simply grab a multi-meter. Drop the negative post into your reservoir, and check what your dc voltage reads. between .1 and .2 volts is fine. If you hit 3 or more volts, its time to drain and flush the system. You have developed electrolysis. Usually a radiator replacement is the recommended solution. However, I have found that Dawn dish soap, flushed through the rad, will remove most conductivity. Hope this comment reaches you, or helps someone else who reads it.
@alexpeebles4572
@alexpeebles4572 8 жыл бұрын
Perhaps make a video suggesting what types of pumps, fittings, or tubing and the like to use in a loop. What types have you tried and been disappointed or happy with? What brands generally have high quality parts? That sort of stuff would be helpful.
@zeloguy
@zeloguy 5 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how I missed this video . . . one time the convoluted way KZbin serves me videos actually benefited.
@xDP02
@xDP02 8 жыл бұрын
Honestly i did my loop for aesthetics and while i assembled it, i never had a leak but one thing i learned is, that if you tighten your fittings to tight you will develop a leak over time. That's the only thing what happened to me in like 3 or 4 years, one from my CPU block and one from my RAM block. I would say i have some kind of a complicated loop (easily 100 parts involved) though since i always liked straight lines and acrylic tubes were a little ahead of my loop and in cases like that rotary fittings are gold. They are expensive but you almost cant have enough of them.
@ayewanrice
@ayewanrice 4 жыл бұрын
old vid so not sure if youd read this. but if you did a beginners watercooling system buyers guide of what exactly you have laid out on the table it would make lives so much easier. i went thru so much info in forums and vids to find out what i needed exactly to buy for a basic cpu loop. the EK system configurator was really helpful on where to start, but the drainage parts and pump mounting guides, using case mounting points or fan adapters, were the hardest to find. everyone just grazes over the fact that a t fitting into a ball valve with 2 male to male connectors with an extra barb and some extra tubing is all you need for a drainage system.
@septiandwiprasetio
@septiandwiprasetio 8 жыл бұрын
i like to see budget build watercooling stuff from jay, seems interesting, get well soon jay
@natethegr8209
@natethegr8209 4 жыл бұрын
Your the guy I go to for all of this. From complicated water cooling to just showing the magical sciences behind how everything in a pc works. Thank you for the info. Looking forward to the future man. Also to other fans in the comments..can someone point out a reliable site to get some fittings? I plan on using hard, soft, and copper (not in the same build) I would really appreciate the help guys.
@natethegr8209
@natethegr8209 4 жыл бұрын
Even if you just send me to one of his videos that give some sites or placeses or references I would appreciate it
@BootedTech
@BootedTech 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, here's something I think you should cover. VRM/Memory cooling, do they really need water cooling, can passive cooling be enough and what would be best. 90% of vids I watch on water cooling never bother to water cool the VRMs on the motherboard, which concern me, as mine sit at 55c idle.
@ZoMbIEx23x
@ZoMbIEx23x 5 жыл бұрын
Talk about Pumps and Resevoirs more. Let us know what we should be looking for when shopping for that component.
@JimmyShawsTidbits1
@JimmyShawsTidbits1 8 жыл бұрын
In line with the water cooling series, when should one change their cooling fluid? What maintenance is required to maintain a loop?
@JackMorris36
@JackMorris36 8 жыл бұрын
A video about cleaning your loop, especially the radiators, would sure be helpful, that's one of the things newbies often forget completely.
@Haustinj
@Haustinj 8 жыл бұрын
would you be able to make a weekly/bi-monthly (idk a good word for that) Q&A series for us about watercooling/benchmarking? like we ask questions each video and you pick some to respond to in the next episode. i think that would help most of us in the most efficient way possible. thank you for all you do.
@BRBearUSA
@BRBearUSA 6 жыл бұрын
Nice introductory video. As for your question, I’d say recommendations to a few low-end, mid, and high-end water cooling systems would be nice. Say, two in each category? Also, a demonstration of a water cooling kit installation from beginning to end. Thanks for taking the time and making the video. I hope you feel better.
@4rari89
@4rari89 8 жыл бұрын
please go more into detail about the drain port setup on the water cooling. perhaps show us the simple ways and more advanced or discreet ways of setting up a drain port. also the type of fittings needed.
@quake4tt
@quake4tt 8 жыл бұрын
My newbie questions gonna be; 1. Need demonstration of all kinda watercooling maintenance, step by step (the easiest way). 2. How to tell I need to change fluid. 3. What's the common setup on cpu + multiple gpu, tubes, fans, radiators location, pros & cons. 4. Any newbie watercooling maintenance tools can make life easier? 5. If things build up inside any of the component, is there a way to clean it up? Thanks Jayz
@AcethemOfficial
@AcethemOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Dude the way u explain things is awesome! i love the reasons and explanations, you have gotten me sooo excited to build my own system but not water cooled haha but once i get all the parts i think ill get i want to send them too you and hopefully u can do a similar build with the same parts! its will be my first build ever and ill be going high end! so id love if you did a video on the parts i pick and i can watch closely and not make any mistakes cos im super nervous but i want the experience of the build! love ya work
@MattimusHD
@MattimusHD 8 жыл бұрын
I feel you, Jay. My family is currently moving from Florida to Georgia and we are all getting sick. It's really making an impact on our productivity of getting sh*t done! P.S Yes please on the moving vlogs!!!
@xbiker321
@xbiker321 8 жыл бұрын
You should discuss the use of just Distilled Water and a Silver Kill Coil, very little maintenance needed. Also a video on draining/filling loops like you said would be nice.
@Markchill2
@Markchill2 8 жыл бұрын
the more info the better thank you jay
@MAKIWEAR
@MAKIWEAR 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe a video on you just making a loop we can see how you approach the situation in a whole. I personally would love a video about the drain tube and how to determine where to located it Thanks jay this channel is awesome
@TheScooterk79
@TheScooterk79 4 жыл бұрын
This vlog was great very informative. I am looking for a beginner's video of routine maintenance of the water-cooling system since it needs so much more work on your part. Thanks, Jan
@c0deoustech
@c0deoustech 8 жыл бұрын
The video about draining would be awesome! I had to design my own with very little instruction.
@Enju23
@Enju23 7 жыл бұрын
I say keep making these types of videos, we got thousands of people who are willing to become a pc enthusiast (including myself), and they definitely need these types of videos that throw the basics at them, as it is, i got an all in one cooler for now, but i'm doing my research on all this custom water cooling stuff, and I want to be sure I'm ready to handle that task of creating my masterpiece of a computer with custom water cooling.
@kedwardsTWO
@kedwardsTWO 8 жыл бұрын
Jay, it would be good if you could do a 'trouble shooting' video where you cause a couple of problems (hot temps or floaters etc ect) and then go over how you would track down the problem. This would have helped me loads a half year back
@ravennexusmh
@ravennexusmh 7 жыл бұрын
so i was driving to work tonight and had a bit of a mad idea. those alpha cool radiators with the multiple options for fitting fittings, with a 360 in the top of my case and my current 240 in the front (or moved to the bottom feed straight from the pump) all that is quite normal, the mad idea part would be mount a res to the top outside the case with a male to male fitting to the port opposite to the one that would return back to the top of the pump. meaning the res would be the highest point in the system and all air would naturally end up there even when filling, more like a cars header tank in the cooling system which would be idea of it in the first place. (plus lets me see the coolant level at all times)
@TheFatCarpBaitCo
@TheFatCarpBaitCo 8 жыл бұрын
This is fast becoming my favourite channel. You mentioned that you weren't sure where to start I would ask for a series based in a typical mid tower case say a define s or enthoo pro full acrylic windowed do we'd version first part do a cpu 1 rad system which is where most of us will start then follow up with a second adding another radiator and gpu. Talk about fans used fittings design ideas etc. The theory is well covered but what looks good and works. I'd like to start a simple loop but tbh it's how to make it look good that I'm less sure on especially when it's a simple cpu loop. However I plan it the runs seem long. I think it would help a lot of people
@iburley_
@iburley_ 8 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a roundup of all the different styles of fittings, I know there's at least a couple different forms of clamp or whatever, and what they're each good for, maybe what's the best.
@OrjonZ
@OrjonZ 8 жыл бұрын
I think recommendation of brands would be nice. For example what Bay Res is good. Also I think it's a good idea for first time watercooling to avoid adapters. 45,60,90 are the main failure of water cooling because if under tensions the O-Rings can form a bad seating. Moving them later down the road will make them leak.
@lamia2super
@lamia2super 8 жыл бұрын
you inspired me to make my custom loop. ordered a ekwb extreme kit with a additional radiator and some fittings
@AlmightyGTR
@AlmightyGTR 8 жыл бұрын
Jay, I agree with you 100% that water cooling takes heat away from the components as fast as possible and to the edges of the case. But then you made a point about water's heat capacity and conductivity being higher than air. Now if you think about it, even your water cooling loop is getting cooled by air at radiator, so I don't think that this is a valid advantage. Because eventually what matters is Air's heat capacity and conductivity. The advantage that I would add is the ability to add bigger radiator at the case edge with better fans, than you can right on top of the component. Heat capacity only works in favour of water in case of a spiky load, where water is very good at absorbing temp spikes and moving them away from components faster than heatpipes. I think you can experiment this. If you run a sustained max load test for 30 minutes with Air vs water, where you have the same effective surface area for radiator and heat sink, and you move the same amount of air on both, water and air cooling will have the same efficiency (as a matter of fact, Air might win it, because water pump will add energy to the loop), as an Engineer I can guarantee it. The reason for this is, Water is your media, not the sink. Sink is Atmosphere/Air.
@daradidam
@daradidam 8 жыл бұрын
+AlmightyGTR I'm no engineer, but the reality is that watercooling a CPU/GPU significantly reduces temperature, both at idle and full load. A custom watercooling loop with 4x120mm radiator usually runs at 10-25 degrees celsius over ambient temperature, while air cooling with heatsinks can go over 50-60 degrees over ambient. Lower temperature also allows more headroom for overclocking. That is why modern CPUs and GPUs are engineered to be able to run at 80-95 degrees celsius. Even though heatsinks and radiators both use air to transfer heat, radiator is more effective due to larger surface area created by its fins.
@AlmightyGTR
@AlmightyGTR 8 жыл бұрын
+daradidam That is my point, if you have the same effective area and same effective airflow, there is no advantage of water cooling. The only advantages of water cooling are carrying heat faster to rad, and ability to use bigger rads as they are away from the components. And since water can carry spikes on temps better, it is good for that kind of workload. Exactly what I said. I am glad that we agree.
@clocker1850
@clocker1850 7 жыл бұрын
I just got a water cooler loop because 1) i Plan to over clocked in future and want get well versed in water cooling 2) water cooling looks badass I mean come on looks way better than the huge metal block with a fan in the center of your motherboard. I guess its like a badass scat pack red dodge challenger with 6.4 supercharged V8. I want performance and the looks to go with it! you could always have a white 98 honda with twin turbo vtec v6 thats just a fast but hey that's for you to decided. Great video jay as always!!!! had to come back and check this out!
@TheRidiculously
@TheRidiculously 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay I don't if you ever will see this comment but I'm look to get into water cooling and would like to see/hear more about the process of cleaning the new parts like radiators and so on, the prep work to minimise the chance on build ups
@JesseCombsTwiZtedCheese
@JesseCombsTwiZtedCheese 8 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think your next watercooling video should go over the main "do" and "don't" kinda theme. The basic stuff can easily be looked over for a newcomer when seeing all of these fancy rigs and all of these options for them. And someone else mentioned what to do on more complex loops with two or more blocks. Making sure someone knows what kind of pump and how powerful of a pump to get is a must topic that I really recommend going over. Other than that, I'm really excited to see more moving vlogs now that linus is all (kinda) moved into the warehouse. I like to think I can one day base my setup off of one in a moving vlog. Sorry this comment was a huge jarbled mess but hopefully you understand what I'm saying.
@vaughanza
@vaughanza 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay , great video. Don't change anything.
@fckinnonstick9919
@fckinnonstick9919 8 жыл бұрын
This is why Im always enjoying jayz videos most specially about watercooling ;) Thanks :)
@SimFlyingFin
@SimFlyingFin 8 жыл бұрын
Could you do a series where you start from a scratch and "build" custom loop that cools CPU and GPU and then to CPU/2x GPU since those are probably the most common scenarios. So what kind of pump you would get, how many and how thick radiators, what fans, what fan controllers, what fittings, what tubing, what reservoir (how big) what blocks etc?
@WorldOfZeroDevelopment
@WorldOfZeroDevelopment 6 жыл бұрын
The Case Labs shirt makes me sad :( They'll be missed! Appreciate this. It was easy to follow and it's oddly hard to find simple getting started water cooling videos. Thanks for helping bridge that gap!
@roberthadfield2839
@roberthadfield2839 8 жыл бұрын
Regarding your question at the end, I do have a suggestion on how it could be done. Find someone in your local area who has a PC and wants to start water cooling and over clocking their system but has absolutely no idea about how to go about it. Bring that person (assuming they're willing and able) and their PC into your studio/workshop and teach them from scratch over a series of sessions and film the process, including the questions the person asks and the answers you give. Don't try and make it a contrived or scripted process. Get them in, let them start asking questions, start answering those questions and see where it leads from there. updating the PC as you go along.
@UnicornReviews
@UnicornReviews 8 жыл бұрын
I saw you tested drinks and stuff for fluids, but why not go with engine coolant? I doesn't really seem to deteriorate at all and comes from a business with a much higher r&d budget.
@5imian
@5imian 8 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video that is essentially water cooling loop design patterns. Describe fundamental design patterns, find good examples of your peers doing it and explain what they are good for. For instance: two loops, one on the CPU block and GPU vs one large loop. Multiple raditors and pumps? Advantages of a mobo block over a cpu block.
@alexbaucom17
@alexbaucom17 8 жыл бұрын
I would definitely love to see a video on best (and cheapest) draining/filling solutions.
@sparkplug1018
@sparkplug1018 8 жыл бұрын
Jay, a discussion about how much radiator is enough would be great. Also if there's any real performance advantage in using 140MM vs 120MM.
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