Waterman's Ideal Numbering System! 1890 to 1930

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Craig Roccanova

Craig Roccanova

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I finally got that bug out of my system and I am back to making videos! This one was INSANE! I actually spent a couple of days trying to figure out how to go about teaching this system. But what usually works best for me is to just hit record and let whatever pops into my head flow out!
The numbering system was fairly simple until about 1903. Then it got pretty complicated up to 1917 which is when they simplified it. By the early 1930's the old system was outdated and the marketing team took over to come up with FLASHY new names for their pens. That's where I stop caring about them!
Here is the link to David Nishimura's breakdown of the system. It was a wonderful reference!
www.vintagepens.com/FAQhistor...
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0:00 - Intro
0:44 - Pelikan Hub OC
1:53 - Early Pens
6:02 - Suffixes Pre-1917
11:27 - A Better System 1917 to 1930
19:10 - Size Comparison
21:02 - Marketing after 1930
24:55 - Extra Thoughts
26:31 - Outro
27:56 - CHAOS!

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@Cyriljayant
@Cyriljayant 6 ай бұрын
This is one of the best videos to make understand the Waterman's collections. I am collecting vintages pens and have a small collections of Vintage Waterman's. My best favourite is NO7 and NO5 pens. with Keywhole nibs. Those nibs are amazing From your video I can see how The Waterman's had Logically introduced their pens. Still to own such a collection you must have a good time and investments.Are you thinking of doing some CLC and polishing to to give a little life back to them??? I always do it to my pens what ever age they belongs to. But I do believe that is some thing personal . Thank you for this video.
@CraigRoccanova
@CraigRoccanova 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I have been doing some restoration and polishing lately! I’m going to make a more in depth NO7 video soon as well!
@andydapennerd7886
@andydapennerd7886 21 күн бұрын
This was an amazing video, especially since you included the legendary Waterman 20! There are not a lot of videos about the Waterman 20. A video idea would be to do a size comparison with oversized pens with the Waterman 20 (Montblanc 149/Jinhao, Pelikan M1000, etc). Subscribed. :)
@CraigRoccanova
@CraigRoccanova 21 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! I also talk about the 20 in this video! kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6qYpa2anpyIfMUsi=MlEQdZmEk6F1xu8_
@jamesschuetz5944
@jamesschuetz5944 Жыл бұрын
Hey Craig, glad you are back and feeling better! This was an informative video and a great way to see all (some) of your pens! Nice job!
@CraigRoccanova
@CraigRoccanova Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I just bought my first Desk pen today for a whopping $49!
@dashsunil
@dashsunil Жыл бұрын
The mother of pearl barrel one is stunning. Great find, Craig. 😁
@CraigRoccanova
@CraigRoccanova Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dash!
@user-pb3ec1uu3h
@user-pb3ec1uu3h 6 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Have you done a video on the Waterman's Ideal nibs? Or can you point me to a reference? Trying to understand a F22 nib!
@CraigRoccanova
@CraigRoccanova 6 ай бұрын
I will definitely be doing a nibs video in the future though I’m not sure I’ve heard of an F22
@archivist17
@archivist17 Жыл бұрын
Great logical numbering system, so you know what to expect. Sure, it did get a bit awkward, with halves and letters, but not too bad. And then, they just drove a coach and horses through it! Must have been very confusing for regular customers. Thanks for a very clear explanation, Craig.
@CraigRoccanova
@CraigRoccanova Жыл бұрын
Yeah it really got crazy there! Glad they simplified it a bit
@user-gl5ld9vm7i
@user-gl5ld9vm7i Жыл бұрын
Do you like any modern day Waterman pens?
@CraigRoccanova
@CraigRoccanova Жыл бұрын
Nope! If it goes beyond about 1935, not really. I think the only modern pen I really like is the Lamy 2000 but that hasn't been used in like 4 months. All of these except for the Rotary International pen can be filled and write!
@matthewross1756
@matthewross1756 Жыл бұрын
Very nice collection. I’m so jealous. My first fountain pens were Waterman Phileas and then Charleston. After more than 25 years I am still using them….
@CraigRoccanova
@CraigRoccanova Жыл бұрын
That’s great!
@gregreader1
@gregreader1 Жыл бұрын
Picked up a 92 1/2 Waterman's Canada today. Ever seen one?
@CraigRoccanova
@CraigRoccanova Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have! That’s kinda the start of the system not mattering anymore 😅
@bakedthepotato5489
@bakedthepotato5489 10 ай бұрын
Wow, that one early waterman has a horseshoe nib - very rare
@CraigRoccanova
@CraigRoccanova 10 ай бұрын
Still looking for more!
@Shanghai_Knife_Dude
@Shanghai_Knife_Dude 3 ай бұрын
Wow, some people i knew works for NASA, believe or not, same coding methodology is still currently in use.
@CraigRoccanova
@CraigRoccanova 3 ай бұрын
Crazy!
@aych131
@aych131 Жыл бұрын
Most desirable/rare vintage waterman in your opinion?
@CraigRoccanova
@CraigRoccanova Жыл бұрын
Early straight caps! 404 model pens are especially cool. I would also someday like to get my hands on a snake overlay 404 but that is CRAZY money
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