Wave Power - A New Way Forward?

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Robert Murray-Smith

Robert Murray-Smith

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@captainscarlet6758
@captainscarlet6758 4 жыл бұрын
The solution to free unlimited energy will be found due to the work done by a bloke working in his shed. Looking at the comments, you are really making us think. 👍
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
i am glad about that mate
@jesuschrist1501
@jesuschrist1501 4 жыл бұрын
i'm guessing the powers that's being generated is through the piezoelectric effect that's making contact with the carbon rod through the wave or the piezoelectric effect of the rod vibrating the copper coils that is smashed on the surface mount. never seen this particular design, it is rather interesting. i too have something similar as well, a flat paper coat it with carbon, simply make a hollow surface to allow water streams to flow through it to then make movement through the paper carbon surface which will also induce piezoelectric effect and harvest energy that way.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
watch the video on where I talk about the mechanism mate
@AdrianP247
@AdrianP247 4 жыл бұрын
For a seawater wave generator, would some kind of electromagnet work? A coil moving along a stationary metal bar. Where the wave action "pushes" the coil back and forth. The movement of the coil produces electricity. Probably would have some corrosion problems over time though.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
it would work fine and there are several implementations of this
@salilsahani2721
@salilsahani2721 Жыл бұрын
:)
@tinkmarshino
@tinkmarshino 4 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I keep coming back is that you make me thing! I am 68 and my brain has gotten lazy.. Thanks Rob for giving me some grand things to do and think about.. now I am off to get some carbon rods.. and then spend a wonderful day by the sea..
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
awesome mate - and take a camera lol
@rodplane5050
@rodplane5050 4 жыл бұрын
Is this surface reaction is it only limited to water or could the thing be done with air flow or noble gas flow. And thanks for keeping the mind exploring new ways of looking at old things.
@tinkmarshino
@tinkmarshino 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering good plan I always seem to forget it..
@mickdebergerac1143
@mickdebergerac1143 4 жыл бұрын
I soo wish you had been one of my teachers back in the 70's.
@rotorspinny5516
@rotorspinny5516 4 жыл бұрын
We were lucky in Australia in the 70s we had Prof Julius Sumner Miller (hope you enjoy this link) he was an absolute treasure for educating kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3-VoHSClreZgpY
@ambersmith6517
@ambersmith6517 4 жыл бұрын
That is a under statement could you imagine if all teachers shared this mans personality and talent I do wish he would tell people who hate and doubt to get stuffed !!!! I think he just feels he is above the nonsense This is the only person I have ever payed to subscribe I just don't do that but this guy I would pay every month just to keep spreading that alsome altitude That not even considering the encouragement and intelligence I am just so impressed!!!!!
@markhodgson2348
@markhodgson2348 4 жыл бұрын
Let him be your teacher now
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
lol - cheers mate
@A4Aurum
@A4Aurum 4 жыл бұрын
What If I wished that I was the teacher of the teacher you wish for! 😎😂
@thornhedge9639
@thornhedge9639 4 жыл бұрын
Again, another winner! Love the carbon rods: seems they're good for everything... Great work again Robert....................................Tim
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
thanks mate
@saiello2061
@saiello2061 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Just goes to show, make any object interact with another and you can get an effect... Theres a whole world out there to explore and you dont need fancy lab equipment and/or lots of money, we can all contribute to the betterment of humankind. Keep "em coming...! 😁
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
absolutely mate
@kafkaian
@kafkaian 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Love this guy. Genuine & real. If I came into money, he can have it. Trust Ian, Birmingham, UK
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
lol - cheers mate and thanks for taking time to say so - all the best
@kafkaian
@kafkaian 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering any time.
@Earzone63
@Earzone63 4 жыл бұрын
​@@kafkaian Woo Bham too. Trying to find a local workshop on the cheap so I can start building these some of these gems. Curious to know: would Energy transmission from sea be done with Microwave?
@jeremyprovence4942
@jeremyprovence4942 4 жыл бұрын
Does it work when heated like the aluminum brass device?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
yes mate
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 3 жыл бұрын
Read the patent. Clarke wrote about the effects of heating the water to 200°F (approximately 90°C).
@CUBETechie
@CUBETechie 3 жыл бұрын
So it's then the seabeck effect/ peltier element?
@reddragon7030
@reddragon7030 Жыл бұрын
Hello, can you add a wind stick to top of the rods? I think this will simulate your current, while the rods can remain submerged in static water
@ShilohSedlak
@ShilohSedlak 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of painting some of your ink onto thin plastic and stacking a few thousand sheets..
@kirksweet8642
@kirksweet8642 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos ! Keep up the great work
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@kevinchastain727
@kevinchastain727 4 жыл бұрын
a easy to obtain carbon rods can be bought from welding supply houses they come in copper coated and just plane carbon
@DeliciousDeBlair
@DeliciousDeBlair 4 жыл бұрын
I shall have to peel open my multiple hundreds of AA batteries and see if I can make one of these run from the creek at the edge of my property [seeing as I live nowhere near the ocean]. ~( 'w')/
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
you have quite a job on there lol - I would love to have a creek then I could do this long term - most of the time I go to the public beach or local river and have to set up measure and take down - it would be awesome to be able to leave something for a couple of months just to see what happens
@gestaltlabart
@gestaltlabart 4 жыл бұрын
The salt water is a conductor, moving in a magnetic field (that of Earth). Try the same in the presence of a powerful neodymium magnet, it will work even better🤗.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
have a look at the video where I talk about the mechanism mate
@fpvangel4495
@fpvangel4495 Жыл бұрын
The Secret is in the wave - Walter Russell. The wave is an electromagnetic pressure wave spiralling outwards, water reveals its presence, it is also alternating current - these days we call it wind - FPV Angel.
@ShilohSedlak
@ShilohSedlak 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it get covered in moss if it was left in the sea?
@karlmyers6518
@karlmyers6518 4 жыл бұрын
I am a very poor reader but I have been reading an awful lot these last few weeks. I will have a little go at reading this paper. Thanks again mate.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
Please do! and awesome mate
@lubbock2704
@lubbock2704 4 жыл бұрын
For those finding it hard to search for the cupboard blocks online, they are also called "modesty blocks".
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
awesome cheers mate
@tarekchbeir8299
@tarekchbeir8299 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that!!!
@MatthewHolevinski
@MatthewHolevinski 4 жыл бұрын
I watched "Cast Away" the other day and it got me thinking what someone in that particular circumstance could come up with.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
nice thought experiment mate
@kungpowchickenwing
@kungpowchickenwing 4 жыл бұрын
Have you thought of trying graphene sheets instead of carbon?
@AnalystPrime
@AnalystPrime 4 жыл бұрын
"I built it out of coconuts!" People should remember more often that there are three levels of power production: You got the grid itself, where one big nuclear plant or turning a valley into a pumped hydro battery works better than a million smaller power sources. You got the local scale where solar panels on your roof or a windmill to power a town are more feasible and economical than building thousand miles of high voltage line. And then you got the cases where you need any power source at all, like cars with gasoline burning ICEs and campsites in middle of a wilderness, or, yes, castaways and people in some post-apocalyptic scenario. Doesn't matter if an ineffective solar panel can't pay for itself or replace the CO2 making it produced if it is made to last and it is the only way to keep the radio on your lifeboat operational. All kinds of preppers talk about surviving after collapse, but for some reason few of them seem interested in building a library of science books so they can MacGyver themselves a power source for when they run out of fuel for their zombiemobile...
@bobbaird8744
@bobbaird8744 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine a neanderthal using 2 charcoal sticks and a frogs leg for a sensor
@dav1dbone
@dav1dbone 4 жыл бұрын
You could print the carbon ink onto a waterproof sheet for a massive array connected in series and each sheet connected in parallel or vice versa
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
you could mate for sure
@BurnabyAlex
@BurnabyAlex 4 жыл бұрын
Put 2 carbon rods on the tip of one of those perpetual sippy bird toys, and you've got waves for days.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
i like that mate
@wayne6220
@wayne6220 4 жыл бұрын
Very good. I love your videos. Good point about it being open source now, hopefully lots of people will swarm to produce a device that can produce clean energy.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
I hope so too
@mattjohnson7637
@mattjohnson7637 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of disposed Zinc battery? It was not clear
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
a lantern battery mate. like this www.protecdirect.co.uk/Site-Equipment-and-Consumables/Roadworks-and-Equipment/Road-Lamps/996-Road-Lamp-Battery~p~675059?Protec&Froogle&Shopping&gclid=CjwKCAjw57b3BRBlEiwA1ImytvlqlZTOo_X8z5EOzQv70j6Yn0yjJKP9lkA7EQRd_Pt6Kqcm1VyKhhoCxzEQAvD_BwE
@MikinessAnalog
@MikinessAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
most 6 volt general purpose batteries (they wear out / run down easily). Use rubber gloves when disassembling as the moistness inside is a bit caustic and acidic.
@skydance8017
@skydance8017 4 жыл бұрын
Sort of reminds me of graphene Van Der Waals Heterostructures aligned in precise geometric configuration/ratio to take advantage of the conjugate relationship of the universe; maybe, just maybe, one doesn't even need water, but oh what we could learn from water! Very beautiful videos you have here!
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@NorthernKitty
@NorthernKitty 4 жыл бұрын
"If you don't find this interesting because you can't use it... well, you're probably on the wrong channel..." AND probably on the wrong track overall. 😋😋😋😋😋
@user-gv4nt9xu8e
@user-gv4nt9xu8e 4 жыл бұрын
Apologies if this is something mentioned in the patent you refer to but would adding grooves/knurling to the rods improve the performance?
@geodeaholicm4889
@geodeaholicm4889 4 жыл бұрын
anything increasing surface area would probably help.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
yes mate geodeaholic has it
@shanealexander9952
@shanealexander9952 4 жыл бұрын
Shape determined polarity is very interesting. A half -round shape would probably be best for collection and a flat to pointy shape for emission would probably set up something desirable even in the same material?
@ricodegallo3060
@ricodegallo3060 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@shanealexander9952
@shanealexander9952 4 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind, the sea has not only tides but currents pushing into the shore and rip tides pulling out. Moving continual flow electrolite?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
yes
@stuartmorris4694
@stuartmorris4694 4 жыл бұрын
I'm new to your channel very good stuff. Have you built any Myers or Boyce devices. I'm an engineer and have been playing for years.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
yes mate I have years ago
@MikinessAnalog
@MikinessAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
I know this isn't what this video was about, but it does remind me of a mechanical form of wave power from the sea using tides. I'm hating myself at the moment because I was recently asked about what other kind of reliable power that occurs every day. I could only think of solar as the sun does indeed rise every single day, but I totally forgot about the 2 tides that occurs every day as long as we have the moon orbiting us.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
oops lol - i wouldn't worry about it mate stuff escapes us all the time and then w rememeber - happens to me
@ronniepirtlejr2606
@ronniepirtlejr2606 4 жыл бұрын
What pulls a stick in the shape of a Y to water in the ground or water pipes? If you hold the stick apart with your hands at the top of the Y then place it level at your knees, with the point of the stick pointing in front of you. The stick will pull down with a strong force, when water or water pipes are in the ground below you! I made these sticks & played with them when I was a kid. Age 10- 13 yrs. Old. They have to be made out of a certain type of wood & fresh off the tree. (Evergreen types) I remember it being a very strong force! I doubt even a grown man could hold the stick level! Why hasn't mankind tapped into this power? It's not Magic! Even though people called it "water witching" witching has nothing to do with it. It's not some evil trick! There is a real scientific reason for this. I just don't know what it is? Someone told me it has something to do with hydrogen atoms but , who knows? I remember one day, I was in the backyard playing with this stick & a neighbor kid came over to me & said " you're faking that.... That's not real!" I couldn't believe He said that! I told him, No, it is real & it does it by itself......try it! He didn't want to, but I was persistent & placed it in his hands. I explained to Him, exactly how to do it. I stepped back about 10 feet & made a line on the ground with my shoe. I told Him, "this is exactly where the stick will point down". Then I stepped back. He slowly started walking towards the line that was between Him and I. When He got to the line, the stick pulled straight down. His eyes got big, He dropped the stick & then he took off running. The craziest thing out of it all was... He never spoke to me ever again after that! It's crazy how people look at this subject! Something unknown is considered Magic, until science understands it & I'm here to tell you, this is NOT Magic! Anyone can do it, if they know how!
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
I just don't know mate - and I think really no one does tbh
@planktonfun1
@planktonfun1 4 жыл бұрын
"Its not about the final product" yeah that's absolutely right in my opinion but my parents strongly disagree though they want things in an instant which is a very arrogant behaviour
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
i suppose it is because they are intrested in arriving as opposed to the journey - that seems strange to me
@Barskor1
@Barskor1 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering Journies are fantastic but having a good destination goal is nice as well.
@Thrive-Off-Grid
@Thrive-Off-Grid 4 жыл бұрын
Leave the Aluminum Rod
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
for sure
@rudigerrichter1443
@rudigerrichter1443 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob, this is an amazing idea. Many electronics work now with tiny currents, like energy harvesting sensors to send data
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
spot on mate - you are the first person I have read to actually get it
@G-ra-ha-m
@G-ra-ha-m 4 жыл бұрын
Ok I'll have a look at the patent itself :). The 'working mechanism' video I'm not sure of but will look. Love the experiment in the sea! As an alternate way of thinking-in-the-box, you could keep your metal electrodes and electrolyte/water in a sealed box and just have the wave motion jiggle it about as it floats in the surface. If you leave a clear window in the top or paint it black you may also get the sun warming it up too !
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@weld-deluxltd7635
@weld-deluxltd7635 4 жыл бұрын
Robert, i thoroughly enjoy your video. I just want to share some information on graphite rods that are prolific in supply and reasonable in price. If you go to any welding supply shop and ask for graphite arc gouging rods, there is a selection from 6mm to 13mm diameter and 300mm long.
@RandomSmith
@RandomSmith 4 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing you could put one side of the electrode bank on a swivel rod so the it swings easily, either by water motion or by paddle/plate above water that moves in the wind, or does the distance have to be fixed.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know mate - that would certainly be something to experiment with
@StingerSecSol
@StingerSecSol 4 жыл бұрын
An incredibly simple idea, can't wait to see what comes next!
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@buffplums
@buffplums 4 жыл бұрын
I really love your videos sir, it’s wonderful to see someone so passionate about experimentation. I once worked as a trials engineer working with solid fuel rocket motors and there was a physicist as lead engineer,you remind me of him, a very clever and focused man able to turn his hand to many engineering challenges covering different disciplines. I think you are the sort of chap who could deliver The Christmas Lectures passing on skills on knowledge and experiences that our young people today are deprived of. Another fabulous demonstration sir.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
cheers mate and thank you for taking the time to say so
@-robo-
@-robo- 4 жыл бұрын
Okay just for fun, take the wind generation device of your choice, coat it with the solar generation material of your choice, place part of the moving end in water along with this wave power device. This will give you three different forms of energy collection in a single package. You could also include a peltier device, that would give you four sources of energy in one package. store this energy in a carbon battery or capacitor and then you have leveraged some pretty awesome technology!
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
nice one mate
@NeoShameMan
@NeoShameMan 4 жыл бұрын
Everything with carbon now lol. Have you experiment with carbon nanotube? I watch a new way to grow them into a kiln to create vanta black like coating. Instead of the complicated vapor deposition techniques. I'm still scouring around to acquire material lol, I'm salty there isn't over technique to easily break alumine back to aluminium than the co2 intensive one, i mean one that wouldn't make sense on industrial scale, but great for kitchen or slow transformation. Turns out that aluminium is quite sn effective methode to "store" hydrogen, even though technically it's not storing it but aluminium powder coated with a soluble material would make a very quick way to extract back the hydrogen, just need to dip it.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
you know me mate - love carbons lol and yes i have
@shanealexander9952
@shanealexander9952 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering Hope we don't incur the Carbon Tax
@Machiuka
@Machiuka 4 жыл бұрын
I think the nanotechnology and IoT powering with this technology is a path to pursuit. Good job mate. Cheers!
@Candyman97
@Candyman97 4 жыл бұрын
I just enjoy watching the joy you have making these videos!!!
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them mate
@francocargius4134
@francocargius4134 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Look I think you can make it more efficient. You have a bunch of cells connected in parallel. I'd like to ask if you determined the polarity of each individual cell to make sure that they are connected the correct way round. If you have 3 connected alternate to the others then you are reading the current developed by 4 of the cells. Test each one individually. Get the polarity the right way. See if it makes as difference. Nice work BTW.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
nice ideas mate - go for it and build one
@francocargius4134
@francocargius4134 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingandTinkering thanks for the reply. Looks like too much trouble to be fair 😂
@jnathanbush1780
@jnathanbush1780 4 жыл бұрын
All smiles from me...... 😊😊😊
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@bryansicard7577
@bryansicard7577 4 жыл бұрын
Very neat, thank you for exploring this patent further!
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@brothernobody1775
@brothernobody1775 4 жыл бұрын
fins, or fan shaped plates could be interesting
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
have a look at the video where I talk about the mechanism mate and go for it
@GUNVALKERIE
@GUNVALKERIE 3 жыл бұрын
WHAT IF... you put the carbon device in the blender... the carbon rods are NOT touching the blades just the salt water and see how much current you get
@mikeeureka2171
@mikeeureka2171 4 жыл бұрын
You can also get carb rods from your local welding supply store I use them every day for air arcing ! And they are not very expensive!
@MrLiamHenderson
@MrLiamHenderson 2 жыл бұрын
We need to design condoms with hundreds of little graphene rods along the length, then the plunging action will generate some current in the slightly acidic and salty environment. To this we must attach (and first invent!!) a long range wireless energy transfer unit, then sell 'em to the Chinese. World energy problems solved. Only kidding of course. I love your channel mate. Goldmine. Making me consider going to Uni at 42! Keep them coming, love it.
@fjnagle2nd
@fjnagle2nd 4 жыл бұрын
Have you tested with longer/fatter rods and deeper submersion? Seems like surface exposure affects the output. Not what I thought it was going to be. I thought you were referring to tide motors/generators (same as wave motor/generators). I worked for a company back in the mid 80's that manufactured fiberglass panels for tide/wave generators. Very interesting ans good job. God bless and stay well.
@TimeSurfer206
@TimeSurfer206 Жыл бұрын
Robert, I am picturing those damn things not as rods, but as sheets. A sheet of backing to support smtrips printed or painted onto it. And each sheet can have a common Series-Parallel configuration on it. Also, in the sea, galvanic corrosion is not the only issue. Barnacles and other critters take over quick.
@charlotteblack777
@charlotteblack777 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic for a large array of wind or solar engines . In return for all your great ideas, I dont like to share with those who abuse the populace which are the first to lock good ideas behind patents and never touch them again. But Id like to bring to your attention the dual piezoelectric/triboelectric hybrid generator. it can put out amazing amounts of power from recycled forever plastic and can be powered by cascading smaller generators or even pistons with wind power
@will_doherty
@will_doherty 4 жыл бұрын
There appears to be something very suspect about this - @7:37 the device is standing on the bench, apparently perfectly isolated from everything, yet it's still "generating" close to a microamp, which is not possible. At 8:05, whilst it's static in the solution, it's managing to produce 6.1 microamps - this from an inert, non degrading apparatus - there's an abundance of smoke and mirrors in evidence here...
@travismoore7849
@travismoore7849 2 жыл бұрын
Next step is a large graphene electrode and salt. Though would it be rechargeable with zinc iodide, or Epsom salt or potassium sulfate.
@dexterdequoitdikkentheworl87
@dexterdequoitdikkentheworl87 4 жыл бұрын
wow robert,thats really interesting..ive noticed that your graphine soaked felt might be a better material for the rods,as it wld flutter in a stream or wave situation,and have more available surface area,being permeable...also,re the charge separationi think plasma science is the window to watch thru...1st rule is that electrically-active plasma is the primary state of 99% of everything,that plasma can be in many different states;pure,gaseous,liquid and solid...snd our oceans are massive electrolyte sinks,connected to the solar circuit,and thru that to the galactic circuit...circuit theory and electricity in plasmas...just some thoughts bro...thanks for the education,your classes rock...
@georgemckenzie2525
@georgemckenzie2525 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reminding me to do my homework. I am still thinking a whirly gig to stir water in a barrel, and place the whole business quite close to the battery bank is preferable to 100 yards transmission line from the brook.
@stigcarboncreative
@stigcarboncreative Жыл бұрын
That's amazing Robert, I have a great project i'm working on that would marry with this very well. Thank you and love your passion!
@MrZoomZone
@MrZoomZone 4 жыл бұрын
You arm is a good ariel - so are ferrite rods. Are you just picking up radio waves? Do you get same effect with a passive analogue micro-ammeter? can the effect be multiplied by connecting in parallel (for more current), and in series for more voltage? Suggestion, try experient inside a metal box ( but no need for a tin foil hat).
@graphixkillzzz
@graphixkillzzz 4 жыл бұрын
seems like all you need is a water filled pendulum with some carbon rods stuck through it. rotation of the earth will keep it moving 🤔🤷🏼‍♂️
@mortenjohansen5781
@mortenjohansen5781 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have an answer to this, but for many years I have thought that research is focusing on generating large amounts of energy instead of figuring how to use rather smaller amounts of energy for the same amount of output. What I mean is that our thought process is aimed at how to make the most energy instead of how to make machines that requier very little energy. I'm well aware that we have stumbled on tech that allows eg. small modern combustion engines to output much largre Kw. than the same size of motor from 1950 but it's still a fossil fuel engine that uses huge amounts of fuel at still very iefficient exchange. What we need is a motor that will produce real usefull power from eg. a small stack of carbon rods and air.
@waltobringer2928
@waltobringer2928 Жыл бұрын
Every time I see you I learn more and more. The exciting part is that I have reasonable applications!
@ClownWhisper
@ClownWhisper Жыл бұрын
There could be hooked in line to the salt discharge of a sump pump in the basements in the United states I don't know how it's handled in the UK but we have water softeners in the states I don't know if that's a local thing that we need our water soft and you might think we're crazy lol but our water softeners run off of salt and we discharge all that salt and of course we don't recover it it gets wasted so he gets discharged out everyday onto the ground through a Internet 1 1/2 inch pipe. There's never any real debris other than a very salty water that rushes out. You could have a Bank of batteries in your basement in overtime it would slowly charge them I imagine if it was set up correctly something to think about I don't have a softener because I'm on city water now but it would be dead easy to incorporate if one had a water softener. As a matter of fact you wouldn't have to wait for the discharge you could set it up in your tank so it was always in contact with the salt brine tank if you really wanted to
@wirelessguyny3787
@wirelessguyny3787 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not clear on what’s so wondrous here. It seems to me that we’ve simply forgotten about tons of experimentation that’s gone on in the past. This wiggle charging of passing water is a poor way to generate electricity. Why not look back to Kelvin’s water experiment with the two cups. There he is generating thousands of volts (at some percentage of micro amps). I would have to think that channeling the water ‘through’ the pipes would have to be better than around them.
@conductiveinkalternative918
@conductiveinkalternative918 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a printed version with your ink. Then you can make 1000's of small ones on a paper/plastic.
@shazzz_land
@shazzz_land 2 жыл бұрын
would graphite from carpenter's pencils work?
@dougaltolan3017
@dougaltolan3017 4 жыл бұрын
Ok then... Lets start with total disbelief that identical electrodes in an electrolyte can produce polarised current. Seems like one of those snake oil perpetual motion machines... but! But it isnt. Now despite the explanatory videos lurking behind a paywall (OI this is tinterwebs here) the patent number is the key. That patent does consider electrodes of similar material, in the very simplest terms, when placed in a flow, some of the free electrons take a detour through a connected external circuit. With that said there are some considerations that may improve results. First it is important to understand the flow of water in a wave. The water does not, over time, flow either with or against the wave direction. Instead it moves in a circle, it is the peaks and troughs of the circular motion that travel. This will assist in aligning the electrodes in a suitable location and orientation with respect to the wave height and direction. Then there is, perhaps, the consideration that wave energy is only one source that this can use. Tidal flow would also energise this device. Perhaps a significant consideration is also material selection. The sea is a very very lively place and there are almost no materials that wont suffer from fouling. I dont know how carbon fares, but I wouldnt mind betting that after a year or so you would have no electricity, instead a health crop of barnacles. Copper is the key there, copper is self antifouling and, provided you avoid all galvanic corrosion, ought to do the trick.
@Loth440
@Loth440 4 жыл бұрын
People that can't understand proof of concept should just be ignored - small minded people that are so quick to criticize they skip any effort to consider the problem.
@Constellation3232
@Constellation3232 3 жыл бұрын
Is this effect due to the triboelectricity? Or a combination of mechanisms? Perhaps the device would perform better if the electrodes were wrapped in separators.
@phill1074
@phill1074 2 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between this and the rain power generators? Is it a similar action? I know the rain one is said to be triboelectric, but what is this? Is it also tribo? Or is it something different? The patent clear states it’s not due to a magnetic field. It really reminds me of tribo due to the movement of the water. This is intriguing.
@GUNVALKERIE
@GUNVALKERIE 3 жыл бұрын
The style reminds me if my GF's water digital clock... I wonder if it is similar
@harrywhite7287
@harrywhite7287 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks. I was thinking about tides because in the earlier video you mentioned that the aluminum and brass rod had to be set up so that one of them was down stream of the other. In this case the rods are the same material which means no galvanic response. How about one carbon and one stainless steel? You could hook it to a wind mill and spin it round in a tank of water.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
for sure mate - but you will have to contend with folks telling you it is a battery
@venusjaninin
@venusjaninin 2 жыл бұрын
A szkoda, że na chwilę nie włożyłeś tego z pierwszego doświadczenia. Ciekawe jaka różnica w mA?
@tommykennedy4070
@tommykennedy4070 4 жыл бұрын
I know how you like urea. I have nothing to experiment with but I like your channel.. did you slosh it around in that yet?
@johnfasano2846
@johnfasano2846 4 жыл бұрын
Thats because more of rods get submerged nothing else, its like partiality charged battery this is good for nothing
@ChrisJohnson-py4gg
@ChrisJohnson-py4gg 3 жыл бұрын
Build one on a PVC tube and pump the water through the pipe. I think it would be possible to create a power generator that could power itself.
@hangfire5005
@hangfire5005 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see if there's any frequency associated with that, as in somehow coupling with mains radiant emi or something..
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
i did this in the sea mate
@GUNVALKERIE
@GUNVALKERIE 3 жыл бұрын
You can put it on stilts while in the plastic bin slightly above the salt water so the nodes won't get corroded... you should have a stable current 🙂
@paulosullivan3472
@paulosullivan3472 4 жыл бұрын
It is interesting but there is a good reason we dont use this to generate electricity with wave power. What this is doing is using the dipolar nature of water to strip electrons from cathode to move them to the anode. The energy needed to produce the cathode is far more than you will get from the 'battery' here. All this amounts to is a very inefficient way of producing power.
@almurray292
@almurray292 4 жыл бұрын
Robert, would a forced piped volume of sea or salt water rushing through the carbon rods depart more charge?
@michaelsohocki1573
@michaelsohocki1573 3 жыл бұрын
Could this generation be a byproduct of something like the wind generator, turned on its side, to dip repeatedly into a saline solution?
@gringoanon4550
@gringoanon4550 4 жыл бұрын
If I have a hose and then turn the tap on, I have a load of water atoms rushing by one spot, if i place a rod of copper along with the hose, then make a circuit, in said copper, shouldn't that induce a current in the copper?
@jasonwitt8619
@jasonwitt8619 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome mate, let's paint some cans with graphene paint and then attach them together with wire at the tabs, one pile of them for positive and one pile for negative and throw them in the ocean, we could even attach some light boobers to the top of them so that they float and light up. That would be a light that would never die because of lack of electrolyte, lol
@benniedonald
@benniedonald 3 жыл бұрын
I just visited your store on the web. I feel like a kid in a candy store. LOL
@Mahfknamsayn
@Mahfknamsayn 3 жыл бұрын
Could it be galvanic action through the metals in the water itself?
@islatech_AI
@islatech_AI 2 жыл бұрын
maybe we can arrange that in a circular disk arrangement and turn it very fast, where half is in contact with saltwater at any given time...
@avalonkingdom9098
@avalonkingdom9098 2 жыл бұрын
Nice mate, maybe the water needs to separated from each pair, just like earth batteries do?
@doonthepan1290
@doonthepan1290 Жыл бұрын
Robert, is this perhaps something akin to the Baghdad battery?
@puttingtechniques
@puttingtechniques 3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. WoW have you sent me off on a tangent . Keep it up Thanks
@johnmcfadden9336
@johnmcfadden9336 4 жыл бұрын
It seems like a variation of your swag generator I wondered it works like the devices vitor shoeburger made
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
that's exactly what it is mate - wait for next video on how it works
@mikeeureka2171
@mikeeureka2171 4 жыл бұрын
What if you used a screen like material and set it up so the water passes through the screen of one pole then the water continues through the second screen that way you have a huge surface area which might produce more current !
@Joh45
@Joh45 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see if it would work to attach several of these to a dock or suspend from them from the bottom of a pontoon boat.
@davereynolds6912
@davereynolds6912 4 жыл бұрын
You said it is affected by surface what about speed of the water going by the rods
@burnroe6611
@burnroe6611 4 жыл бұрын
Have you done any experiments with distance between the rods
@KleantRrera
@KleantRrera 3 жыл бұрын
What if you change the resistor to let's say 100... 10 Ohms ?
@Falkon303
@Falkon303 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for doing that experiment!
@Ludifant
@Ludifant 4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I will fish out that patent, like you suggest. It´s not your job to tell people information they can get themselves. Good to have boundaries :)
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering 4 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@InterdimensionalWiz
@InterdimensionalWiz 2 жыл бұрын
would it work with charcoal,? burnt wood is easy to get
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