Can't wait for next week's podcast talking about WTF happened to Microsoft and Crowdstrike
@bsv01Ай бұрын
Why they don't make live-stream format podcasts?!
@dang3304Ай бұрын
CrowdStrike decided to YOLO a bad update to every single customer, all at once, without any testing, or canary releases. Not sure if deliberate action of a disguntled employee, or gross negligence.
@C_ia_RАй бұрын
Yuppp
@Don_321Ай бұрын
My work was going bonkers because of this
@MatthewMS.Ай бұрын
I sold my position of CRWD at 9:30 AM market open. In that business you can break trust only once, gg.
@inerttiiaАй бұрын
the advertisements are going crazy recently, timestamps are a gift from god
@Wecce_Ай бұрын
I was also like wow, I pay for premium but this is a lot
@gabe_0xАй бұрын
ReVanced, NewPipe, etc. Everyone should be using these so KZbin gets the message.
@afgh1408Ай бұрын
@@Wecce_how are you getting advertisements if you have premium?
@corvacopiaАй бұрын
@@afgh1408maybe they mean the sponsored parts?
@afgh1408Ай бұрын
@@corvacopia you are probably right
@jeffingram6200Ай бұрын
I am deaf and truly appreciate the accurare captions. Thank you for covering that.
@renReeeАй бұрын
Ellis always coming in clutch with the slam dunk on topics regarding ethics or responsibility
@eFiggidyАй бұрын
100000% Everyone calls AI race a "Gold rush" but people don't look at history and see how devastating the California gold rush was with deforestation, destruction of ecosystems with runoff and by rerouting rivers and mercury mines that continue to contaminate California soil and streams 100+ years later. During the rush only a handful of people got incredibly wealthy and in it's kinda feeling that way right now with zero laws, regulation or consequences for cheating and stealing.... "Allegedly" (in Ellison's voice)
@jngobngoАй бұрын
For real Ellis can preach 👏
@Saxm13Ай бұрын
10000% agreed
@drewlopАй бұрын
Big time. It's heartening that these conversations are happening on the biggest tech channel when the vast majority of them are mostly ethics-agnostic, or at least fairly parochial when they are.
@SoloDolo122Ай бұрын
Yet they had no response to ethics or responsibility when Louis questioned it about their Apple facility visit.
@julesm1434Ай бұрын
Ellis singing “BBL DRIZZY” at 51:32 😂😂😂
@thefourthfryАй бұрын
the way ellis raised his mug as he said its time to recognise the bean XDXDXD
@RealWorldReviewАй бұрын
It's more of a huge grain of rice, or yes, a pill
@_september_4799Ай бұрын
All hail! 🙌🙌🙌 🫘
@shey.laplancheАй бұрын
Ellis need his own show
@slick3996Ай бұрын
he got aura
@TokollopАй бұрын
@@slick3996 So much Aura
@danieltrias2518Ай бұрын
As a father of 2 who's always sick and tired (and current 2xing it with covid), I REALLY appreciate this little reprieve that is the WVFRM Podcast. Thanks guys.
@IzzyBombzАй бұрын
Formally requesting a 2 minute Ellis rant every episode
@caleblatreille8224Ай бұрын
Ellis's comments at 52:06 hit the nail on the head. "A trillion-dollar company… can drastically alter the entire environment in which we create." The titans of industry want us to think we live in a vacuum where there's no difference between an AI or a human creating something, because it benefits them to do so. There has been a very long and consistent effort to reframe the terms in which all kinds of labour exists, not just art, and this is exactly how we've ended up with garment sweatshops, migrant farm workers, dirty mines (coal in the last century, rare earth minerals in this one), etc. Creative fields really are one of the last realms where the actual human expression of the person making the thing matters, but AI companies are trying to sell us on the idea that it shouldn't.
@boardoriginsproductionsАй бұрын
👏 well said
@ShotblurАй бұрын
Human creativity will always have its place. AI will occupy the space where human creativity has already been reduced to a commodity-places where it didn't really matter anyway.
@theglowcloud2215Ай бұрын
@@Shotblur bullshit. Which gen AI company do you work for?
@austinlburkeАй бұрын
I feel like a lot of the difference between our reaction behind "human-made" and "AI-made" is the context behind the song or art. If a human makes an emotional song, we read into the lyrics and emotion and begin imagining a history of what that person went through which we can try to relate to. When we discover an AI made it, we understand that there is no overarching context for us to relate to or imagine.
@rjrgjrАй бұрын
Listening to that large segment and then going straight to a Meta AI advertisement is wild
@johnplayerenАй бұрын
The Chromebook CR-48 was a prototype. I don't think it was ever commercially available
@avartani95Ай бұрын
The "GYATT" at 1:23:31 needs to be on the soundboard
@thorvaldspearАй бұрын
You're so right
@_DBPooperАй бұрын
The Cr-48 was intended for testing only, not retail sales. The Cr-48's hardware design broke convention by replacing certain keys with shortcut keys, such as the function keys, and replacing the caps lock key with a dedicated search key
@qill.mp3Ай бұрын
Get Ellis screaming "ALLEGEDLY!!!" On the sound board.
@schizophrenic-devАй бұрын
We need a special episode tomorrow about Microsoft and Crowdstrike, this is huge!
@clothesonthegroundАй бұрын
Very interested in what Crowdstrike did to have this big of a mess up.
@samsam21ambАй бұрын
I was in Woolworths on Friday afternoon and simultaneously saw all the checkout machines freeze and shut down, I remember thinking wow, that’s weird and interesting, I ended up leaving and not buying because I couldn’t (cash wouldn’t even work) then, when I get home and watched the tv I see it’s a big global crash…
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Technically the CR-48 was not a consumer device as it was not sold anywhere. It was distributed free to developers and fans who then sold them in a second hand market.
@just_mdd4Ай бұрын
How does bro not have a username? 🤯
@apostolis.diamantopoulosАй бұрын
@@just_mdd4Probably put an ansii space character for a name
Ай бұрын
And now my name shows in sub-comments !!! ¯\_(ツ)_/
@garrettordАй бұрын
David casually just dropping the coolest dad lore about doing contract work for Samsung
@InimitaPaulАй бұрын
1 x Intro 2 x Trivia 4 x Stories 6 x Sponsors segments Quiet week huh!
@peaupiАй бұрын
😭 tbf it's a fraction of the total vid length still wild though
@erik87178Ай бұрын
can’t possibly bother you that much just skip the chapters it literally takes 1 second
@EthanBАй бұрын
Heaven forbid content creators get paid for making quality content
@TresorthasАй бұрын
SponsorBlock is a great browser extension
@MichaelQuinlanАй бұрын
The Chromebook CR-48 was released for testing only, not retail sales.
@ThairCanOnlyBeOneАй бұрын
Yeah, a prototype, but the Nexus Q was the first cunsumer hardware launched & made by Google in 2012. It was scapped and basically became Chromecast and launched in 2013.
@faridmokraouiАй бұрын
I don't think the Q ever hit the retail market. I think the only people able to get one were the attendees at IO 2012
@anuroopmishraАй бұрын
What about Chromebook pixel? I read on internet that was launched before Chromecast in same year
@IanZainea1990Ай бұрын
47:59 hear, hear ellis!!!!
@arbeenАй бұрын
Ellis is a good example of "tell me you're smart without telling me you're smart." How he makes what I think are complex ideas so easily understandable is 💯.
@LouisPerronmusicАй бұрын
OK. So at 50:30, there's a scenario where a double blind test is proposed where people use the same song to show to people and say "AI made this" or "Human made this" ... Except AI didn't make it, it just spliced ten billion songs together to make a new one in its black box. Maybe some would argue that IS creating in a nutshell, but I would argue it's just automating the programming of a song.
@anibharadАй бұрын
The CR-48 was a prototype device given to a select few (developers, early adopters) as part of a pilot program to gather feedback on the Chrome OS. So technically, the Chromecast was the first consumer hardware product by Google that was commercially available.
@SA-3270Ай бұрын
Love everything that Ellis said!!! 👏🏽👏🏽 We need more of Ellis!!!
@TREX213Ай бұрын
Please stop the meta ads
@checkeredtuxАй бұрын
Even betterhelp would be a more ethical sponsor then meta, and thats saying something. Remember when Marques did a puff interview for Mark Zuckerberg AFTER he caused the deaths of thousands in Myanmar.
@RhymesWithCrazyАй бұрын
I agree they’re big cringe. But you know these are their most profitable ads ever, so ya can’t hate!
@benmorrish1Ай бұрын
Nah they deserve the add revenue, shouldn’t hate on it
@issastormАй бұрын
let them take that bag home. Just skip them, no different from midrolls
@nathanfife2890Ай бұрын
I have no issues with it. Get that bag! Lol
@sho_k1Ай бұрын
Guys bring back the 'ive been doing x for a week now' jokes.
@just_mdd4Ай бұрын
"I've been using Linux Mint for a week now, here's my thoughts."
@VEVOsux123Ай бұрын
The R5 MkII is perfect on paper if you’re already invested in the RF mount. The problem is it’s nearly identical to the Nikon Z8 but $300 more expensive (not counting that the Z8 is usually on sale). Canon’s lens ecosystem is also more restrictive.
@KREKTECHАй бұрын
"Beans come in all shapes and sizes" is what I needed after today's outage. TY Ellis
@t.sholto4700Ай бұрын
Pays for premium to avoid ads, creators start including ads in the content. Fml
@dadbeastАй бұрын
Bruh I said the same ish to myself the other day. It really pisses me off.
@Albert.StarwalkerАй бұрын
Complaining in almost every video I watch on YT
@philguy5221Ай бұрын
Just skip them? There’s plenty of extensions and ways to easy skip them
@Albert.StarwalkerАй бұрын
@@philguy5221 not the ones embedded in the video by the author. Meaning they are part of the video. :/
@IsduАй бұрын
Yeah that’s definitely a thing. SponsorBlock is a Google extension that does exactly that. It relies on user-input timestamps.
@BreakawayBАй бұрын
lol @ David wearing the same T-shirt both days…. *Been there, brother.* 😂
@nukadog1969Ай бұрын
Amazing discussion at 46:35 until the trivia break! Possibly the best discussion I've seen on the topic. "...more at eleven!"!
@jfgh900Ай бұрын
For real this part was so interesting! I really hope they do an episode just on AI ethics because every time they bring it up, it is a great conversation, that always seems to get cut short
@carlosgabrielsoares4164Ай бұрын
Complementary information: You actually do not need to train a completely new model for it to “forget” information. There is a process called machine unlearning which can be done with way less costs than completely training a new model that can effectively make the model forget about some topic
@nathandburtonАй бұрын
C.R. 30a is a County Road that runs alongside a very ritzy bit of coastline in the Florida panhandle. I can totally see this situation occurring there. 23:41
@sorebacklolАй бұрын
I love Ellis’ ethics mic-drop. Marques’ devils advocation this episode made me feel a bit weird… I know his intention was to create conversation, but idk it just feels icky that anybody, and many will, have that stance on AI generated art. And David saying, “but also, I think we just need to care more about the human stuff” is so true. Art = human experience! Maybe the day AI becomes sentient I’ll change my tune, but for now, nope!
@sczhioАй бұрын
1:23:29 never in my life i wound hear Marques Brownlee said "gyatt"
@sensiblewheelsАй бұрын
Good catch 😁
@MatthewMS.Ай бұрын
Marques good job in Mr. Beast video 👏🏻
@milkmanchannel1Ай бұрын
He was like, the only one that I noticed I watched so I was upset when he got out. Lol
@esaedvikАй бұрын
The Meta AI ad is the weirdest ever. Never even heard of Meta AI, literally anywhere ever...
@Tex_ArcanaАй бұрын
The CR-48 was a developer device
@irasmith-lopez2581Ай бұрын
The main difference in computer inspiration and human is that humans feel the music they listen to and want to express that to listeners looking for them to feel a new/certain way. When computer does it the outcome is better but loses the “feeling” and can become a quick way to make money rather than an artist desiring to express themselves.
@BloodyPolarBearАй бұрын
CR51 was a prototype that was seeded to reviewers. Never was sold to the public so it's not "consumer" product. Awesome to go down memory lane about Chromebooks and Chromecasts!
@sheldoncarter6609Ай бұрын
DAVID IS BIXBY?!???? Plot twist of the century.
@jk.gАй бұрын
Whilst long, I loved the discussion and commentary on the AI segment. Awesome. Would like to see more of that, even if it's in a bonus episode or something
@birdhousefinchАй бұрын
“human beings matter more than computers!” ❤️
@timomonochrom115Ай бұрын
On the topic what you're "missing": Many in the community are pretty disappointed with 24MP. Meanwhile Fuji or Sony etc are delivering 100MP. There is also the redundancy with the r3 line which was previously the line with lower MP counts for sports and journalism. Rumors are next generation Sony sensors that might maybe come to Hasselblad, Leica, Fuji etc as well could be 250MP.
@keiz_Ай бұрын
That photo of the truck is real, its from 3 years ago, or more. The frame is powder coated red and it has a major lift kit. I've seen all kinds of trucks like that over the years, especially at SEMA show (one of the world's biggest car shows for industry). I've seen every colour you can imagine for frame colours. They had an aftermarket metal bumper it looks like, and the bumper does look like it was damaged in the accidebt. Its hard to make out detail super well since the photos is a bit grainy.
@cmac7348Ай бұрын
I love the longer episodes. I wish they would all be 3hrs long
@IfitaintshotbyvonАй бұрын
The Pixel’s new camera bump looks like a webcam 🤣
@matteugenioАй бұрын
The cooling fan grip for the R5 Mark II isn’t $750, it’s $399. Also, you can still use older LP-E6 batteries like the N & NH, just not the super old base E6 ones.
@MisterdavidcАй бұрын
CR in the truck photo could mean County Road. Often seen here in Texas (where lifted trucks are found often)
@jaysonmackinnon9441Ай бұрын
Yeah that picture is not ai. The red underneath is the suspension powdercoat
@xsleep1Ай бұрын
Yes, horizontal stoplights are common in Texas but rare (or non-existent) in Cali.
@ethanwagnerАй бұрын
Love you, Ellis. The progression through the technology era has been so fascinating that we truly aren’t stopping to ask why anymore. Hard conversations need to be had to not allow the human spirit to become a backseat to everything else we CAN, but maybe shouldn’t, do.
@BobVids77Ай бұрын
This is a relaxing podcast to listen to while taking a nap.
@mattjgrahamАй бұрын
Back home from Greece! 🇬🇷 and it’s time for the best Podcast, after the best holiday! Thanks for what you do guys ❤️
@jamiejackson355Ай бұрын
Last night I had a dream that I won a contest you guys put on. You flew me out to Jersey, and we all kicked it. We played ultimate frisbee, hit up a bar or two, and even sang some karaoke. You guys sang the Pokémon theme song for some reason. I did “save dat money” by lil dicky. Anyways, yall rock. Keep up the good work!
@slimergamerslimer8307Ай бұрын
I don’t know if anyone mentioned it in the comments but “ fairly” a group of researcher funded by the French government proved that it’s possible to train a large manage model without infringing on copyright or the need for permissions.
@slimergamerslimer8307Ай бұрын
Not really sure about how the certification process is done but my point still stands, if there was a will there would be a way.
@matthewhanАй бұрын
damn the first couple minutes made me think they were gonna talk about Louis rossman’s comments on the Apple repair stuff
@filiphaj2947Ай бұрын
Same
@andreassanchez8127Ай бұрын
Easily, one of the best & most nuanced critiques of AI I’ve heard so far. This was great!
@OriamRepusАй бұрын
Not sure i like the idea of you guys taking a Meta AI sponsorship, seems like it might introduce a conflict of interest. Why not just take phone sponsorships next?
@shubhamchaudhari6884Ай бұрын
Nobody is paying attention to this. I think it's just up to us to trust in mkbhd.
@Roxas1711Ай бұрын
It’s not that deep
@hastyscorpionАй бұрын
@@Roxas1711it kind of is dude.
@somiljangraАй бұрын
I am not too sure. However, I believe it's Vox who controls the sponsorships for the podcast.
@Muench13Ай бұрын
What does a Meta AI sponsorship have to do with the waveform podcast?
@tomanicodinАй бұрын
Andrew is the best. Always remembering you are in a podcast and explaining stuff to people listening and not watching :)
@esaedvikАй бұрын
Seems the truck hits Porsche pic is over 2 years old from CR 30A near Panama City, FL
@kevinweyrauch4875Ай бұрын
Did google ever do something with the temperature sensor on the pixel?
@MichaelSmith-zw5fuАй бұрын
46:30 - 48:00, Thank you Ellis for talking some sense.
@nihilistzen6133Ай бұрын
I do not want eye tracking. I use an r5 and a c70 regularly. I am looking at so many different elements on the frame when I am evaluating what I want to shoot, I am not just focusing my eye on the focus point. I am checking composition, background blur, color edges, and more. Unless the eye tracking only focused on the one point then locked while I evaluated the rest of the photo before clicking the shutter. This all takes place in the span of sometimes a just a few seconds, but to only focus my eye on the point i want in focus means I have to ignore the rest of the photo until after the shutter is clicked which sounds absolutely unacceptably terrible.
@maddymiruАй бұрын
@Ellis. Marques' "We Like" and "Gyaatt" needs to be on the sound board.
@Constantin-i3tАй бұрын
43:01 Thanks to David I set my Timers, Alerts and Reminders. 😉😄
@KattilaOfficialАй бұрын
When are you talking about Louis Rossman's video?
@chloelamplughАй бұрын
"You can't just.. let people vote" Iconic David line.
@KaySo_QuesoАй бұрын
Shout Out Camp Fiesta! Proud of the fans. Y'all are a great bunch
@jimmyreinstein9993Ай бұрын
For what it’s worth I enjoyed the longer podcast this week. I feel 90 minutes is good 👍🏻
@erickfortesqueАй бұрын
So far this is my favorite episode. Really gets you thinking.
@xacwhiteАй бұрын
Ellis’ take on supporting people is awesome! 👏🏻
@sshkeysАй бұрын
David cooked with the title
@DecadentotterАй бұрын
Audio listener here. I was so confused what bean everyone was talking about until I flipped over my 8a and I was like ooooh that bean
@sahakyАй бұрын
Marques's question about humans versus robots is brilliant. The difference is not just moral, but also business differences. When a human watches a video on KZbin, KZbin sells an ad to that human, or a human is paying for KZbin Prime, while you can't sell an ad to a robot. So robot needs to pay for the data.
@SamFigueroaАй бұрын
I had the Canon EOS-5 back in the day and that was so dope. It only had 3 focus points in a horizontal row tho. It worked pretty well for something that came out during the late 90's.
@Zack-dw5opАй бұрын
We should vote on the best Pixel camera bump/visor/etc
@Mr.JimPickensАй бұрын
Hej Hej Monika in the thumbnail cracked me up
Ай бұрын
Hot take : the outage of microsoft services lowkey flexed their power 🙄
@The_Silver_LurkerАй бұрын
When LEGO changed their plastic compounds to be more renewable, the colors of all the bricks changed. VERY SLIGHTLY, but its visible with a dorect aide by side comparison. Its possible the Homepod is similar
@chabandouАй бұрын
No body is pointing a gun at Apple's head telling them to train an AI model, If they can't find legal datasets They can simply build one (I'm sure they can afford to) and release some weird commercial pointing out that the only reason OpenAI and Google are ahead is because they're training their models on stolen user data, it could actually pressure them and make them do things the right way.
@heptaconАй бұрын
add marques's "we like" to the soundboard
@PrajwalDSouzaАй бұрын
Color grading the podcast video for explaining about C log 2. Chefs kiss. :) - 1:22:16
@nathanhollow0Ай бұрын
6 sponsors?? damn mkbhd been eating good
@U2haveanicedayty2Ай бұрын
Absolutely great Podcast and love what Ellis said so agree about everything he said regarding AI and Humans well done.Now on totally different subject.I love the watch band with leather in the Merch MKB and see for the larger one is selling great.Also the Shirt you are wearing very nice and so is Andrew's.Thanks so much Guy's really enjoyed.💯✌️
@guptaanu1995Ай бұрын
That conversation around 48:10. Welcome to the industrial revolution guys.
@DarkfireTSАй бұрын
The first Chromebooks for sale were manufactured by Acer and Samsung - they were announced at Google I/O in May 2011. The Chromecast was the first product they made for consumers :)
@MindFieldMusicАй бұрын
Re musicians convo: I could imagine a similar conversation 100 years ago about photography. "What about the painters who spent countless hours training, and now some chemists are profiting by allowing the plebs to create their own images."
@okbye_toniАй бұрын
Complaining about the ai training and all that fuzz, then you see the meta ai ads 😂
@shanemooonАй бұрын
CR 30A is definitely “Country Road 30A”. Very common out here in the sticks hahaha.
@kreigerbailey3550Ай бұрын
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!! 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
@NotGarrettGАй бұрын
They really need to get ahold of legislation and make LAWS and ABIDE BY THEM (relating to Open Source & A.I content)
@peterzeller5736Ай бұрын
David not changing his shirt is my favorite thing this week.
@piotrnowinski6434Ай бұрын
One comment regarding Apple using the Pile dataset (by EleutherAI). In software development, it's a common practice to use open-source libraries or components in your products. However, if there is a bug caused by that or, even worse, a data breach caused by the security bug in the open-source library, it's not the library to be blamed - you are fully responsible. I'm not a lawyer, but if it worked the same way here, I would say it should now be Apple's problem to deal with.
@Marty_StylistАй бұрын
Good job Ellis on that first trivia question
@emmanuelealves7641Ай бұрын
It was so funny for me, Marques building up tension by closing some phones and put aside before start talking about the Apple Home Pod color haha 😆😆😆😆 Top acting
@jamieprocter6653Ай бұрын
CR-30a stands for "county road" 30a. CR and FR are commonly used road designations in the rural parts of the US
@ckrendelcoversАй бұрын
I’m sure there were more data scientists here who share similar points, but feels like you do not see the scale and complexity of the datasets you talk about. The process of creating dataset is simple: 1. You need data to train model. This data should contain specific information and properties. For example photos of cats vs photos of other animals. 2. You hire team to go outside and take 20 thousand pictures of cats and 20 thousand pictures of other animals. 3. You train model and hope data was good enough. Or you start over. Question: With all money of the world how much time do you need to take 40 thousand photos? From business perspective it almost impossible. This is why Google trains models using CAPCHA. This is why you allow to process data in cloud in Apple t&c. You just need to try to build a decent model to classify something (super simple) but not using public datasets and without scraping web.
@daniyal._Ай бұрын
Hey all! Could you please bring Brian Greene to the podcast and talk to him (Read: listen to him) about how the fabric of space is woven with wormholes? It would blow all your minds collectively.
@sangram1727Ай бұрын
13:10 didn't expect my phone to show up on the show 3 years later😅