The Problem With Upcoming Top 1s... (Geometry Dash)

[@xylious.]

I see, so what your saying is delete edge of destiny and verify aquamarine

[@wavix]

..........

[@-zgalaxy7-882]

💀

[@imarandomperson761]

I think wavix had a heart attack trying to reply

[@junjun8855]

gd player try not to make the worst take imaginable challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[@gillboygd]

Edge of destiny is so cool

[@Prometheus_Alt]

"The problem with upcoming top 1s" but the video is also upcoming and is top 1 on my subscription feed, does that make this video an upcoming top 1

[@sleepynet13]

yes

[@TheCommonGuy731]

Yes Video verified! (New top 1) by Wavix

[@GAMER1860_GD]

Y E S

[@LillyEve]

Why are you everywhere

[@Prometheus_Alt]

@@LillyEve I'm too good

[@banuan6564]

The only top 1 type levels I could get excited for would be impossible levels or unique top 1s like Ascension to Heaven

[@stinkypinky2045]

facts

[@rlxpjzr]

yes thats why i was hoping silent clubstep would be top 1 bc that is super cool n also this is why acheron is super cool

[@onyxidian]

@@rlxpjzr ach is tartar v2 bro theres nothing interesting or new in it

[@bearygd]

@@onyxidian compared to the shit we've seen in the last 1.5 years its really good, (although its not great)

[@megarayquaza9054]

@@onyxidian it's pretty cool

[@mallex9310]

The main problem is that most of them were made for the sake of being top 1

[@Corrupt_W]

^

[@GGamerLiam]

^^

[@sonetagu1337]

^^^

[@weirwadefolk9088]

WOAH YOU WATCHED THE VIDEO TOO????

[@elgatitokawai55]

bloodbath was made for the sake of being top 1 sonic wave was made for the sake of being top 1 bloodlust was made for the sake of being top 1 tartarus was made for the sake of being top 1

[@RealDeathCorridor]

The main problem is that theres too many top 1s oversaturating what could be good as a fairly hard level rather than a hardest level. The levels that are good are overtaken by the countless top 1s that are layouts, they are just there, made for fun, or there for capitalizing on the trend.

[@jajasking9652]

Exactly, i don't care about two to even five uncoming top 1, but there is like over 30 uncoming extreme Demons, which is maybe the amount of extreme Demons before 2.1 update

[@StallionGD]

Oh boy you are going to be such a huge fan of Silent Dicctras II

[@PORTALIAN_Makes_Bass]

I started making a top 1 before Firework or Slaughterhouse were verified, and by just keeping the difficulty as is, we might make Top 5. As a community, this is crazy.

[@ancientmkw]

same lol, mine is probably top 15 now and the gameplay is shit so i wont bother continuing it

[@DarthSkril]

Honestly, A top 1 thats main focus is on spider, ufo, or robot would be cool! Not many hard levels focus on those and it would be interesting. As long as it isn't just frame perfects or spam.

[@sauci.8389]

if there weren't frame perfects in what would be a level like that at this point the level would just have to be way too long

[@dimnd9057]

Grains of sand?

[@arandombeginnerrandom6316]

@@dimnd9057 well he said "As long as it isn't just frame perfect or spam." and Grains of sand is just consistent spider spam challenge.

[@Vilaxe_]

@@dimnd9057 gos aint even a remotely good level

[@Vilaxe_]

Etenal night seems like a good level like this even if it comes out and isnt top 1

[@zeckma]

I'm glad to see more people get tired of this. Stormfly already made this point abundantly clear that he doesn't like how stuff is going. I don't wanna put words in his mouth, but this issue is getting worse and worse. Back then when Zodiac was #1, top ones before and a little after were small. Today, it's just hell.

[@derpthefish929]

I think the real reason why most of us are sick of “upcoming top 1s” is that none of them are original. Even my favorite upcoming top 1 (ascension to heaven) is just made for fun until they decided to take it a lot more seriously. I mean why else are sick of slaughterhouse remakes. I think a top 1 should symbolize gd extreme demons as a whole since they are the most viewed extreme demons. Honk bloodlust during it’s era or icdx when every other levels look the same. Also if you want to make a level/layout that looks impossible but don’t want to be mislabeled as top 1, say it in the description of the video and don’t let replay channels replay your level.

[@Shmungus72]

Top 1s used to being exciting but since about 2020 way to much top 1s have been coming out like remember how much hype there was for bloodlust and zodiac? And now you look at slaughterhouse or aod and it’s cool but I don’t really care that much since it’s not as exciting

[@puzzle8189]

The problem with top 1s? More like top 1 reasons my dad left 😎

[@paired]

1. He needed to bring a solid liquid known for calcium to eat with the cereal that was in your microwave. The solid liquid known for calcium is milk.

[@keento8911]

@@paired “solid liquid”

[@demnisho]

I was making a level (that's a passion project), that was supposed to be top 1. But i figured out it would be better if it was between top 10 and 20. Thanks, Wavix.

[@Lamebot53]

Can you please make videos of all upcoming top 1s ranked from easiest to hardest in your opinion? Ik you song be perfect but it’s always fun to speculate

all i wanted was a top 1 that wasn't hell themed or had wave gameplay i just want something new

[@totally_not_gamer]

idea for new video: What place would Slaughterhouse be if all upcoming top 1 levels were verified and what would be the new top 1?

[@roygeebivins3285]

2 years later, none of the upcoming top 1s were verfied expect achron and tidal wave.

[@lexycat]

corrupted planet: my worst mistake

[@jeeral]

“or in the case of Tartarus, because it’s a Riot level” had me dying

[@onlysams.]

The fact SWI is now out of the top 10 is truly unbelieveable can't wait for the day SH is top 25

[@Shakr-1]

As a gay 17 year old, I totally agree

[@Bloxfruitz]

Top 10s I only want to see verified soon Return 0 Eternal Night ATH EOD TAT but why is it taking so long its been 6 years they havent fully showcased it yet. The project started 2016 before 2.1 was released, and it only has a limited obj count of 300K. (dark odyssey obj count) Limbo with 500K objs started Feb 2020 and only got fully showcased after 2 years of work.

[@deetz23]

Return 0 is mid

[@ExoticCreep]

top 1s and the demonlist have ruined this game and there's no turning back

[@akion37]

i knew it was over when exen put "my next top 1" in one of his titles

[@Quacomoley]

why is "Riots Demise" the funniest thing that i saw today.

[@werxxy2238]

Very well explained, Hope they now finally understand.

[@achidupite3616]

Imo, the only top 1s that i am exited for and i feel are being built with passion are Ascension to Heaven, Spectre and Avernus, imo the best

[@absolutesonic4266]

The fact that you need to say Top 1s because of how goddamn many of them there are says it all.

[@Evan-ro3yz]

Worst part is is that all the good upcoming top 1’s (Down Bass Incarnation, Galaxy Collapse, The National Anthem) are all either cancelled or abandoned

[@zFunnyBoy_]

the problem with 'upcoming top 1s' for me is that for the most part they aren't upcoming top 1s. creators slap the 'top 1' label on their unfinished ass layout thinking they can predict the future and know that the verifier will definitely go through with the verification and 100% be placed above slaughterhouse as if the creator knows ANYTHING about how hard these levels are. remember tartarus, stayed top 1 for 2 years, despite so many 'upcoming top 1s' being showed? wonder what happened there i thought we were getting top 1s notice how tartarus was topped? slaughterhouse, skc, and aod. levels where the VERIFIER chose to push themselves to the top 1 potential not the creator who has no fucking clue and wants their half assed layout to get attention

[@niceuuuuuu]

3:08 no, really space tweeted once that he along with cursed and trick admit it's really fun but a pain to finish off, I'm not sure if I remember correctly I think nswish also found it fun? Not sure but so far one of the people who said aod is unfun with progress/completed it is zoink, not sure what doggie has to say.

[@Nebulaloll]

I just wish something would happen with the list at least, idk how it would be done but maybe something new like trustas. I feel as though people who now have jobs or full time school, the list has made it almost impossible to beat anything on it considering time constraints. Maybe someone will create a new version soon that will become more popular than the current one. I also feel like the current top ten requires/influences players to beat the levels in an unhealthy way mentally, and physically, due to the stress and amount of hours it requires one to sit at a computer.

[@ValidationOff]

My main issues is how there's so many top 1s and how most top 1s are made for the sake of being a top 1. I'm gonna sound like a whiny bitch when I say this but 2.0 era had times where a top 1 was something to be hyped about because a new hard level was rare at the time and people would be hyped to see it happen, even if the gameplay is less than favorable. The whole Bloodlust and Plasma Pulse Finale thing, Sonic Wave finally being verified after years, the verification of Yatagarasu, it just goes on really. The last top 1 I actually somewhat cared for was probably Zodiac mostly due to that's probably when the saturation of top 1s was starting to happen. Nowadays, there's so many "Future Top 1s" that I just kinda glance and forget about it because there's so many top 1s for the sake of being top 1 that it's hard to find the unique and interesting ones when all of them are usually top 1 for the sake of it. I seen a few great ones but most of them just feel "there" with no real value or history (like maybe impossible levels being verified) other than "wow hard level". I didn't even watch the video yet why am I fucking writing this actually. UPDATE: Yeah I really agree with your points. Especially the point of new 1s being unique.

[@tendoo404]

i really dont care about the top 1 anymore, the only level im currently interested in is limbo, probably one of my favorite levels of all time, and it looks absolutely great

[@fredwilliams3321]

In my opinion, what we need is some software where players/creators can share layouts for deco, levels for verification or similar (like LinkedIn for GD). I think this would mean a lot of the spammy, clickbaity top 1s would be flushed out automatically because so many unknown but skilled creators could easily be discovered. This would mean we would get more decorated levels of good quality, not more mass produced creator point farms, and it would be easier to find fun verification projects as well. No one would bother verifying some random level from a view-hungry video because more superior projects would be at an arms reach

[@Rayan-West]

Top 1's may very well bring the end to the Demon list...

[@rmstudios1557]

The whole community is focused on always pushing out number 1 extreme demons, this is a problem that no one really talks about. Top 1 extreme demons are for top players to verify and they can only do it properly, top 1 extreme demons have always been the focus of the community (for idrk what reason) but they just aren't fun, at all. Not all people can verify Slaughterhouse or well..any top 1 demon, good extreme demons can be something like artificial ascent and others. This whole community is stuck into a whole trend of just making number 1's instead of just actually making some fun extreme demons. Im not hating, if i were i would have said something far worse than this, i care about this community but this is just getting absurd. Where did the fune extreme demons go dude?

[@achernan7759]

Not true. I beat a top 1. That being Demon Park, but still a top 1 (well, it used to be anyway)

[@infernal8985]

Don't worry, generic top 1s are going away now. Just a matter of when will we get them.

[@PORTALIAN_Makes_Bass]

Artificial Ascent was Top 1, and I agree, the fun extremes are gone. (Thinking Space = Greatest Extreme of all Time.)

[@firetheman]

Unfortunately ts not easy keeping the game alive without 2.2 releasing

[@trayfr]

"a sea of frame perf-" wavix is NOT letting go off ley lmfao

[@tryfly72]

Honestly I understand, I just want to make a cool hard level when i make one, in this case frostbite, I don’t want views at all, honestly I’d go without views, as long as I make a level I enjoy making then it’s fine for me.

[@slapstick2199]

So many people be making these videos now there’s gonna be a “the problem with “the problem with upcoming top1s” videos

[@Flightkitten]

The flood of top 1's had started after Tartarus was dethroned, and it makes good hard levels with nice gameplay less noticed.

[@achernan7759]

My favorite top 1 is Demon Park, since it’s the only one I can actually beat

[@TheBlueElephant111]

hey have you heard of Terius? Its a super unknown Top 1 I recently found and I think you should check it out. Reminds me of KOCMOC, but it doesn't rip off slaughterhouse

[@Naka-wc3yo]

I don’t really pay attention to the demonlist that much so if any of the upcoming top 1’s got verified and became top 1 I wouldn’t really give a shit

[@zzzSolgrynn]

take a shot every time wavix makes this video or a variation of it, I swear ive seen this like 5 times by now.

[@Azura_2211]

Still really looking Forward to Orochi cause of how Unique the level is.

[@therealgookie]

Im currently making a level with my team purposely to make fun of the upcoming top 1s, purpisely being unbalanced and having overly hard and unfun gameplay. I dont rly think it will ever get verified, but its only for fun!

[@d1kgaws12]

Step 1: Mock Top 1s with purposefully unbalanced gp Step 2: Pray Neiro/Exen doesn’t showcase it or else it’ll suddenly become a serious upcoming Top 1 (no hate to Neiro)

[@crimsonavengergaming4832]

The problem with upcoming top ones is i cant beat them.

[@kaffii]

all these new top 1s make me miss Zodiac

[@JustDopey]

My new favourite Top 10 is Tidal Wave as it's a vibe and different kind of level compared to the usual top 1s/10 levels (some top 10 - 1s are good but not all)

[@gy6v380]

I agree with everything in the video. I miss the time when extremes were famous from being good insted of being famous because they are hard.

[@haros2868]

I like the originality of riots demise. Or foolishouse v200⁵⁵⁰⁰

[@Atriedits4040]

I would be exited for anathema , eternal silence ,orochi,kocmoc and silent dry out

[@SavutGD]

ban icedcave boom fixed

[@ChillMichaeleo]

Imagine stopping everyone playing a game you dont even own

[@samtrash575]

The long 1 minute before the premier starts

[@peterszollos5280]

No matter what level will be the top 1, the community will always remember them, and the creators can't make new, special top 1 because there hasn't been any update for 6 years and that's Robtop's fault

[@gmdjack]

I’m in the small group of people that likes top ones (good or bad). Work put into levels should be recognized and respected and not shit on because the level want to be a top one. Though I also agree that there is an extreme over saturation of using “top one” as a way to farm views.

[@tundra77]

as someone who built a part in the level, eryx was quite literally a joke level that people wanted to build a deco part in (including me) xanii made the most stupidly hard gameplay possible as a joke

[@mech3384]

I feel like the best way to make an Upcoming Top 1 is to build a fun semi-impossible/impossible level and then nerf it to the ground. I might try this and see if it actually works lmao

[@THEboyLucasAnimation]

A little concept in my head was a top 1, but instead of that being the main point, the creator of the level would be unknown and it basically being a scavenger hunt to find the creator of the level. This makes the creator largely more respected then the level they made since everyone needed to find who they are, Or tbh some other concept to push the annoying top 1 view magnet aside.

[@x-tremefactory2542]

That’s what I plan to do, make a top 1 and verify it myself and post it on the servers like any normal level

[@AuLumity_idol_is_GawrGura]

I try to make a top 1 for fun, and I want to make it as weird as possible by trying to use a different theme.

[@aryanaravazhi9608]

Review Ballistic Wistfully, I know its an impossible level but it has this charm to it that makes it unique (not mentioning the fact it is also top 1)

[@totallynotavsrgacc]

AWESOME video bro 👍

[@foamgd9018]

I would like if there was more top 10s or top 25s instead of top 1s

[@superigg_]

As if I didn't notice a problem already

[@sanandreasgd7148]

also I feel like there's some upcoming top 1-10 that were made just for money. if you saw lmanubis's video you know what I'm talking about

[@deleted-something]

The problem is aquamarine multiplied by riots trash

[@Akri254]

agree with most of ur points but i love aod deco :(

[@ytkerfuffles6429]

ascension to heaven is missed potential because it looks extremely boring because 1cps, the only decent upcoming top 1s are misanthrope and return 0 because theyre long and not condensed difficulty

[@TrueHyper01]

Galaxia, my Top 1 is best 10 minute but Mario Galaxy but not sure if getting million objects or getting optimized

[@ThePreschiste]

Could you make the same video, but for GD 2.2 for the future top 1 gameplay etc...

[@nerdporkspass1m1st78]

This video is very well-written. I like how at 3:30 you finally give levels like Aquamarine their own category, as “projects which are made for fun, but mislabeled by showcasers as ‘top 1’s’”. You also addressed a concern I had at 5:10 where you’re not criticizing Riot’s Demise because you want to attack its creators, you’re doing it because it promotes an unhelpful message to the community that “making a top 1 makes you more popular”. I just have one thing to say to add to your judgement: you say at 0:38 that “there are more top 1s now than there used to be.” Now, I’m not saying that’s wrong, but I am saying that levels have been made before, hard enough to be list-difficulty, and completely forgotten about. It’s “survivorship bias” at work. Have you ever heard of “Demonic Bass” by Miniman2098, “Ruined Journey” by KeiAs and more, or “Geminorum” by Feko9? These all used to be top 30 demons, at one point in the demonlist’s history. (web.archive.org/web/20160405063335/gdforum.freeforums.net/thread/5339/official-extreme-insane-demons-records) TOP 30. And… well, I’ll just let the levels speak for themselves. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJenl5WOr5yYpJo kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIm7h4upadiGqsk kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6Srnn2CbbB2i5Y Keep in mind, this was during a time when “good top 1’s” like Bloodbath and Cataclysm were already part of the list. So yes, being recommended current top 1’s on KZbin is a little irritating. But as far as making awful GD levels which are very difficult goes? They’re nothing new.

[@explosivedust64]

Te main problem is the over saturation of these top ones and most are not the best quality and are made for views like when bloodbath came out there were like 2 or 3 top 1s coming out

[@ngskyz4986]

I’m surprised you didn’t talk about kratos

[@buk5920]

HappyHouse was made for fun, never intended to be a top 1 :(

[@deathsss666]

isn’t there like a shortage of verifiers or something? I mean top players are already complaining about how bad top levels are

[@Royale9]

Video could've been over after 40 seconds. Main reason is for the sake of being a top1

[@Rockets2024Champs]

Bloodlust was the last top 1 that i actually cared about

[@garbagegamertag]

Most upcoming top ones and even the levels on the top spot now don't even utilize any unique gameplay. It's just Cube, Wave, Ship, Ball, Wave, UFO, Wave, Ship, Wave, Cube, Wave, Ship, and Cube. Notice how many times Wave and Ship are used. It's honestly impressive how unoriginal and bland and boring these top ones are.

[@DeeJay694]

Waiting on the top 1 auto level

[@LucasAPC06]

I actually wasn't never excited for new Top 1, especially because nobody will pass or even make 1%. I only looked to some upcoming Top 1 because they have really good decoration, or at least a revolutionary thing, such as EoJ or Return 0. Upcoming Top 1 become a part of the community, so now everyone is doing that. However, most of that levels has some standard decorations and awful gameplay, and not enjoyable at all. The case of Ascension to Heaven, the layout were just made for fun, and it's actually a beautiful level even if it's only a decorated layout. But they took it to decorate (and tbh, the decoration isn't as good as expected, it isn't clean at all and it "blinds" the gameplay). Ok, probably I'm talking too much, and it looks like I'm saying exactly what does the video say, or that I'm looking for some likes or whatever, but it's my opinion. Top 1 sucks, it is only good if it's something revolutionary

[@DellDex]

Очень много демонов, в которых 75% - волна. Ничего придумать не могут 😢

[@thekillerdrag0ngd957]

Make 90% of the upcoming top 1s beginner or extended list extremes and then they will be fun to play instead of these top 1 wrist breaking levels

[@Bliger29]

list of good UT1 ( for my opinion ) Limbo The rock house Ascension to Heaven ( too hard but really well deco ) eternal night cobwebs ( unnerfed ) Ashley Wave Trials Limbo Azure flare Natural disaster Eadge of destiny Limbo Misanthrope The amethyst Kocmoc Limbo Aquamarine is not THAT bad. It's kinda bad, but not that much

[@zhabiboss]

My reaction to that information: 😢😢😢

[@nice-mc4fo]

Pls make a top 1 megacollab

[@aiden9900]

The whole gd community is so focused on stuff like pumping out top 1 demons that and not touching grass O wait this is the gd community they never touch grass

[@thecableman4928]

Waving should make an upcoming top 1 called free views

[@godzillagod9752]

Who cares about upcoming top 1s if Wavixs winrar license expired

[@Didulous-D]

The problem is the fact that the idea is as dry as m- oh i cant say that? Ok... uhmm... its been milked dry. That works just make decent levels

[@BananaHP.]

my guy really said limbo while talking about replacing the current top 3 💀

[@RustyyRadio]

i mean top 1's have some bangers

[@sillysillyme8150]

not a top player but with the amount of people beating slaughterhouse i think it might considered to be easier than aod in the future

[@chocohasrizz]

Well its wave based, which is the most optimized mode in the game. But still, i like how sh stays on #1 as the theme perfectly fits the spot.

[@wippo42]

You are not taking into account that players will be more inclined to try and beat the current top1, or that AOD might just be a worse level so fewer people want to beat it

[@child722]

it isn't top 1, but I think black flag is really innovative with it being a pirate theme and all that and there's just not enough pirate levels

[@groupez]

This gonna be a banger

[@xylophone5649]

My problem with upcoming top 1's: they all suck

[@beefchopstick]

And what I hate about Upcoming 1s is that some of them are hell themed, like bro this crappy theme is overrated and also most of them use a lot of glow (💀) and some of those are layouts.

[@SpartanWithXs]

Top 1s have become so over saturated that videos complaining about them have become redundant

[@happythebestboi]

Can you still make a video about the human limit

[@wavix]

maybe

[@Swishsy]

Bruh, the sync 5:33