Creepiest Men On YouTube: The Disturbing Crimes of Elderly Creators

[@wavywebsurf]

So I just realized my Instagram and Twitter links I put in the description have been broken for like...the last year lmao. SHOULD BE FIXED NOW. Follow me, buddies.

[@NotFckingBen]

Ok

[@EdwardLopez2x]

Fix em now

[@WyattW_]

Lol

[@masonsobel366]

You ruined your chances I would’ve followed you

[@KTVSOLOS]

Lol ok

[@cdrunner7876]

I used to work at a retirement home that housed mostly mentally ill residents. One of the residents seemed like a kind man and easy to talk too. The senior always mentioned his “lovely daughters” and how he missed them. I noticed he never got a visit from his daughters so I asked around about it and a coworker told me that he molested his daughters back in the 70s. Still gives me chills.

[@funnelvortex7722]

Jesus fuck that's horrifying. Must've been very awkward to approach him after that.

[@sven5974]

What the fuck did I just read?

[@Cyan1deCandy]

Reminds me of a story my friend told me. At the time, she was still studying to become an RN and was working at nursing homes over the summers. The story was pretty similar but I can't remember the specifics. Anyways, the man was talking to his wife (not the mother of his children - she had divorced him) while my friend was in the room. He said something along the lines of, "Oh, she's so beautiful. Doesn't she look a lot like *daughter's name that he molested.*" My friend didn't know about the molestation at the time until she asked why the daughter wouldn't visit. Edit: I should probably also add this. She didn't ask the man or his wife, she asked one of her coworkers.

[@viktor1504]

My sister used to work are a place like this too and there was also a creep like this. They had to bath the seniors sometimes and he'll always like try to make them touch him

[@realleon2328]

I feel like having the job of caretaking someone like that would bring up some really difficult ethical emotions. That sounds like a super uncomfortable situation

[@legoshi6531]

He's literally Mr. Herbert... His voice, his actions, his age, and the fact that he has a picture of Seth Green signed by him is the cherry on top. Seth Green ladies and gentlemen, the man who voices Chris Griffin, the same Chris Griffin constantly being groomed by Herbert.

[@heyitsalannaluv]

Lmao right...like he's the legit real Mr Herbert 😂

[@eliza2247]

Omg I just heard his voice and you're so on point!

[@LESLASLESLAS]

I clicked on this video, watched it up to the point of the Seth Green photo and absolutely lost it 😂 Definitely where the inspiration came from

[@JoeyPantaloons]

Seriously 🤣

[@tjlambaes]

I was down here to post the same thing lol.

[@JohnnyHikesSW]

Moral of the story- Elderly people are just like anyone else. You don’t know whether someone is a good or bad person just based on their age

[@MuzikBike]

I suppose this is a rare case where 3:13 is valid then

[@apriljk6557]

Yep, they've just had more time to do bad things. Rarely, do I see an old person and think, "sweet, innocent, and trustworthy" and I don't really get why people do.

[@2ndcenturion]

It’s almost like elderly people are just regular people that have been around longer 🤔

[@JohnnyHikesSW]

@@apriljk6557 the flip side is they’ve also had more time to do good things. The bottom line is you don’t know someone just because you’ve watched their KZbin videos

[@LegendStormcrow]

Um, the moment I saw and heard Plasma I knew he was a kiddy lover. He's literally Herbert the Pervert

[@rocketamadeus3730]

For some reason once you become old everyone treats you like you're as innocent as a lost puppy.

[@Scruffy-qi3ik]

i mean, and i'm not defending it or anything, but it's probably because that very often is the case. as we get older and past our prime, our bodies and minds start basically regressing

[@RockandrollNegro]

Cough... *Biden*

[@halfling49]

Because at the end of the day, we don't really respect the elderly.

[@PandaMonium92827]

As a true crime fan I can agree....all them old ladies have the highest body counts.😅

[@exploratory-fordora9672]

Well from an evolutionary perspective, old people are likely to be more innocent, in basic reasoning a violent criminal would likely not live into their eldery years

[@uffy]

if a victims name and age aren't released during or following a case, especially sexual misconduct, it's typically because they are under 18.

[@Hamantha]

I figured

[@aodigital9421]

Hes just trying to cover all grounds, it doesn't mean that's his personal opinion, he even says towards the end of the video that he is no way in agreement with him.

[@MarquisDeSang]

or under 21

[@rashira9610]

I mean here in Michigan the age of consent is 16, and I think it's the same for Ohio. The person Don groped could have been legally old enough to consent to sex and only considered a juvenile because they weren't 18 yet, which at that point would make the main problem end up being the fact that Don Imposed on the person without permission. Everyone sees the word Juvenile and just assumes "small little child" but nobody on here actually knows what happened.

[@omardaddy2218]

Or maybe cover up. Dude enjoyed it

[@forbiddendancing]

"age is just a number, nothing in this world will stop my hunger" well that gave it away

[@thelastronin7145]

He was talkin about chicken idk what you talkin about, anyway you want a cupcake?

[@rossorange2592]

I noticed that before he pointed it out

[@hoidoei941]

Prison time is just a number, nothing in this world can stop Tyrone’s hunger

[@marcodarko6941]

"Chicken" is slang for young boys predators go after.@@thelastronin7145

[@0uttaS1TE]

@@thelastronin7145 He was gonna get a cupcake with his buddy EDP445

[@nervsouly]

A woman who was working in a supervisor position at a retirenment home one once told me: The number one mistake people tend to make is thinking all elderly people were angels.

[@lolineko2083]

Yea a good bit of them use their age as an excuse to act bratty and entitled. Being old doesn't give you a b***h pass 🤷‍♀️

[@AaronLevine-t3j]

I use to work for a security agency and was posted as the late-night security guard for a place called Catholic Charities. It is basically Hospice but also a local elderly home. One thing I was trained on for that site is to expect calls from the elderly being self-entitled and would always try to get away with things by blaming their age and in their mind, they believe it to be true and may not be aware of it. There were two residents like that but one of them actually knew what he did. I say did because they both passed away while I worked there. One of them use to call 911 and would verbally harass the nurses. It got so bad the Baltimore city captain for that local department came down to investigate. So, he, the building supervisor for the building I patrolled, and I came up with a system. If 911is called; then the security would contact the supervisor to investigate the room and the resident. If there is an emergency, then security would say it is. That one resident had to be in his own room because he would also harass the other residents. As it turned out after talking to his daughter and son in law after he passed away, he was placed there because no other healthcare facilities wanted him or kicked him out because of his history with harassment and the falsified 911 calls in addition to calling to the main lobby front desk demanding a security guard to come to his room and meals throughout the night. Sad part is I also found out that he most likely did that because his own family did not want to visit him.

[@notagainandagain]

Exactly. My mom works at a rehabilitation center that predominantly has elderly folks there and kinda doubles as an old folks home. She's been there for years and seen people come and go ('expire') and has come home plenty of times talking about how cruel a lot of them can be, especially the older men who don't respect her and other women or male nurses. Ive even helped out as a volunteer once during Christmas passing out gifts, and i remember a good few being straight up rude about not getting 'good' gifts and even attempting to curse me out for bringing them. Others say sexual things and try to touch you but then act innocent when you call them out. They know they can get away with it by acting fragile when the higher ups are asked for help dealing with them.

[@MrRobster1234]

That is a very good point, but you can't assume that all your charges are a certain way.

[@monaeallsup6140]

that woman is right 100%.

[@Sketchapotumus]

Rest In Peace Clara from Great Depression Cooking. Such a wholesome person and channel. Was amazing to see her in the beginning of your video.

[@masterofthecourt5435]

You don’t even know if Clara was hiding something behind that sweet old lady façade, Sthu

[@Blokythebunny05]

@@masterofthecourt5435 stop making me think of them like that

[@imretro2182]

@@masterofthecourt5435 you could say this for any KZbin. Mr beats could be a rapist and we would never know. You need to have a little bit of common sense

[@shrekiscool4743]

@@masterofthecourt5435 ok then. if i ever see you enjoying content created by someone ill reply to you like this "you dont know that person, they could be hiding a terrible past. sthu, weeb" 😉

[@lucywithadeucey]

@@masterofthecourt5435 anime pfp, you’re not tough kid 🤡

[@jeremyelbertson4427]

"Age is just a number. Nothing in this world will stop my hunger" That is some riddler tier foreshadowing

[@sunspot5]

The evidence was right there from the beginning 😭

[@ghedebaronsamedi]

That line didn't age quite so well.

[@huba3885]

the diddler

[@GumSkyloard]

Sometimes, foreshadowing is relatively obvious.

[@AmongusBalls65]

@Huggy's World never thought some channel named “Huggys world” would come to a video about eldery criminals

[@medicinaljutland1133]

“Age is just a number, nothing Will stop my hunger” these rappers allways been telling on themselves.

[@xosaintmusic]

SINCE DAY ONE 😂😂😂

[@Jtk9876]

Bro fr I couldn’t believe I heard him drop that bar

[@seanlabath560]

WORD!

[@gemh89]

And prison is just a room

[@seanlabath560]

@@gemh89 very good Gemna! What are other kinds of rooms called?

[@songb1rd333]

I know why old people on the internet seem wholesome and innocent, it's a world that's completely foreign to most of them and when they interact it seems adorable. What people seem to forget is that these people have lived long lives and everybody has skeletons lurking in the closet. Sometimes it's just stuff that's embarrassing or things that where deemed acceptable at the moment, but other times it's the ugly side of humanity that people just didn't want to talk about.

[@calvyhater5000]

Yeah i have skeletons in my closet

[@MrLimpwurt]

very well said

[@coileight]

@@calvyhater5000 i have 10. One was named Tim.

[@nobody_425]

True shit 💯

[@sunakonakahara222]

Yeah like finding out that Pip-Pap was a Nazi Soldier or some shit! Or a white supremacist, unfortunately there's a lot of those in the states. I mean I'm glad we're slowly evolving but there's still some people that it seems like they're devolving and it's sad.

[@GamingRoadkill]

When Don rapped “age is just a number” I instantly knew what he was on this list for 💀

[@vanathebird470]

same 💀💀💀

[@DoctorJammer]

That phrase is almost exclusively applied to elderly people who feel young for their age. Not saying his victim wasn't under 18 but you're wrong to assume thst based on that phrase.

[@analogcorbin]

​@@DoctorJammer I don't think they said it like "age is just a number" ALWAYS means that, but with the added context of the video subject (creepy old youtubers) it would give someone a good idea of what he might be on the list for.

[@meghanc9088]

SAME

[@Zammiey]

fr my jaw dropped when he said that lmao@@analogcorbin

[@Boo-dawg.]

I've watched that woman that had the depression era cooking. She was so smart and had learned so much through hard living. She's no longer with us but she definitely had talent.

[@jacobberry5138]

Great Depression cooking. Great channel that my wife turned me on to. We actually bought her book. The recipes are affordable and good tasting.

[@kevinprzy4539]

At least featureman is still around! The guy reminds me of my grandfather so much (RIP gramps)

[@babycornsnake]

@@kevinprzy4539 I'm sorry for your loss.

[@skitzcunt4213]

@Jacob Berry... affordable... def not good tasting

[@AlsoCalledStarcoin]

F old lady..

[@TailsIsDisappointed]

The most poetic part about Don, is that he most likely died knowing everyone found out about his past. There's no sympathy for child predators.

[@NCXitlali]

Sympathy

[@NotFckingBen]

@@NCXitlali No empathy, sympathy, or respect. As someone who is a survivor of CSA I don’t even treat them as human.

[@Dbl513]

Don kinda sounds like Herbert from family guy

[@tomislavplaysguitar]

@@Dbl513 Very correct observation there Mr. Grievous

[@NotFckingBen]

@@Dbl513 He even has that whistle that Herbert does 🤔

[@moxygirlhey]

Seeing the elderly as docile and innocent is so foolish. I learned this many years ago. One of the worst people I have ever met is older than me and one day soon will be a grandma. To imagine this horrible woman being a grandma, and one day a true senior citizen and using that manipulate more people and con them as a sweet old lady...yeah old people are the same as any bad or good person..they just been on this planet longer. Trust no one

[@contruq]

My grandpa is a war criminal and he is proud of the actions... my reason I do not think the same about every elderly person

[@moxygirlhey]

@@contruq yikes, that's intense. But I do understand you

[@Blox117]

@@moxygirlhey i mean, any ♀is the worst person you could ever meet. they are all self absorbed narcissists with delusions of grandeur and schizoid paranoia

[@theoneandonlyjim902]

the fact that they're older may mean they're smarter with being awful and know how to get away from trouble. Not all the time, but a lot of the time.

[@crichey56]

Trust no one.. Or die trying. ;)

[@rachelwalker1873]

The “actual age” of the victim doesn’t matter. If someone is 6, 16, or 60, any unwanted physical contact is exactly that - UNWANTED

[@SinfullyHera]

Yep, justifies ruining the last days of an old man, to hell with second chances.

[@cringer8107]

It makes a huge difference … no need to elaborate further, weird asf opinion

[@prezidenttrump5171]

Incels don't understand that.

[@IceJJFishArchive]

i mean, age does matter with kids and teens, they psychologically cannot agree or consent no matter what, but yeah, I agree that any unwanted physical contact (or anything with being pressured to send pms) is unwanted, especially with adults.

[@fl8281]

Or even a million years old being. Touching them without any consent is a crime

[@Tuddyowo]

*"age is just a number nothing in this world will stop my hunger"* In the business, we call this foreshadowing.

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

Given the context he was saying it in, he probably didn’t mean it like that.

[@GioGioPietromica425]

@@lyokianhitchhiker well obviously not but there’s also something in the business we like to call, the Freudian Slip

[@annylieseseraph6149]

@@GioGioPietromica425 This isn't really what constitutes a freudian slip. You could argue that "age is just a number" on its own is, but it's such an oft-heard statement that I'd challenge that on that basis alone. This doesn't excuse what he did, by any means.

[@GioGioPietromica425]

@@annylieseseraph6149 I mean I wasn’t exactly being serious, but you are right

[@SANDSCORCHER]

First dude is literally the real life embodiment of Mr Herbert 😂 How folks didn’t get suspicious straight off the bat is remarkable.

[@bloemkoolendestreetgang450]

I was about to comment this exact thing lol, the voice tho

[@Bartfan16]

Thank you! I was thinking the same thing!

[@gagelink2457]

I imagine that's why someone decided to look up the S** offender registery

[@foxalpha09]

"Age is just a number" *BEEP!BEEP!BEEP!*

[@SANDSCORCHER]

@ foxalpha09 2099 🤣

[@mysweetpets4904]

There was a nice woman who lived in my old neighborhood when I was a preteen I believe. She was always super friendly and was always the first one to buy any school fundraisers. She'd also get really into Christmas and Halloween and would always have lots of cool decorations and treats for the kids regardless of if they were "too old for trick or treating." I was always too introverted to really make friends with her, but I always appreciated the things she did for the neighborhood kids. We had moved away and a couple years later I'm scrolling a "sex offender near me" website thing for...fun? Out of curiosity? I don't know. I type in my address at that time, then start looking at my old addresses. She was there. I then looked her up on the actual website. She raped a boy between the age of 8 and 11, she also got a charge for either raping him with a foreign object as well, or a complete other boy. It was kind of hard to understand the legal text. Anyway, really messed me up. Always makes me wonder if she had been taking advantage of any other kids. I mean, sometimes she'd carpool kids around. I think one of the things that really grossed me out was that she had this bright beaming smile in each of her sex offender registry photos. She just seemed so happy to smile and have her picture taken. That same smile she would direct at all the neighborhood kids...

[@gumshoe1285]

I know what you mean There was a priest who was in charge of my local parish Who was recently taken into police custody for sexual assault/misconduct(?? or something like that) and it shocked me because he was like you said always smiling at kids. I remember one time that stuck with me was our school was doing a practice of a school play (I think) and afterwards since it was a small Parish the school needed lifts to help move students to the church and back to the school. And so the priest obviously offered to help out. And I remember he asked some girls to help him move stuff back to his house and I remember he brought four or five girls back to his house to "help-out" I have reason to believe he raped them but I don't know for sure. I still wonder if he did or didn't abuse them. at the time I wanted to go too to help out to be useful, I'm glad now looking back that I never went through that door with them. I still feel sorry for those girls too.

[@Cavi587]

@@gumshoe1285 Why am I not surprised it was a priest. They are the worst offenders, people trust priests because of the religious aspect and they can easily take advantage of that. I live in a mostly catholic country and I am always dumbfounded by how much people trust priests with their children etc. Not all priests are bad, of course, but the number of cases among them is very high. Disgusting.

[@gumshoe1285]

@@Cavi587 yes it is disgusting and it does happen alot too

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

@@gumshoe1285 If he brought 4 or 5 girls back, he very likely didn't rape them. He was likely grooming them & seeing which ones would be lest likely to tell, had already been abused etc. Of course I don't know what he did later but the saying is true as usually there is safety in numbers.

[@SaintDiaz]

Where is the "im not surprised its a woman" comments? Its weird that women dont get highlighted like that. And lets not pretend its because "its mostly men" theres a huge chunk of female offenders that hardly ever get highlighted like that

[@CatherineLee3000]

I feel bad for Don's fans when the information about him came out about him being a sex offender. It must have hurt that someone you looked up to was really a bad guy. Multiple hearts must have shattered during that time.

[@IDoSnipeYT]

Unrelated, but that Thomas Doss profile picture is based. He was a mad lad and a badass. o7

[@missvida6251]

How is he someone to look up to in the first place?

[@TroubledOnePaydirt]

I went to prison at 18 years old for shooting back at people that were trying to kill me. I felt it was self defense then, and I still feel that way. I served three years and was released at the end of 2001. In Ohio, they have what are called “gun specs” which is an enhancement to a charge because a gun was involved. I have been out of prison for 21 years now and I still have problems because of that. I get it. I messed up. I served my time. I took all the anger management classes and did everything they asked of me. But because of these gun specs, I can NEVER get my record expunged. NEVER. Sometimes, your actions have much longer lasting consequences than u can imagine. I just feel like that was kinda relevant to what Wavy was talking about at the end there.

[@godemperorlech5422]

If I were you i'd find a way to destroy the record and then leave the country entirely.

[@luxarion]

What the fuck, it was self defense, I feel so bad for you. :(

[@norgepalm7315]

I made a mistake at 17, then again at 20. I was a troubled young kid, man, whatever. My life is still affected by the mistakes I made over a decade ago. I cannot escape it. I can barely even move to a new country (most countries won't allow me). I hate my life every day.

[@meowtherainbowx4163]

We need to overhaul our justice system in so many ways. I’m not sure about a guy like Ed because I don’t really know if he grew as a person after he got punished, but even something like sexual battery shouldn’t have to follow someone around for entire decades, especially if the whole point of the justice system is to reform people. The way we hold prison time against people forever shows just how confused our priorities are. Do we want to correct people’s behavior, or do we want to punish them for punishment’s sake?

[@futball51]

My Partner is a defense attorney in a neighboring state to yours we have similar issues, for one here and in many states we have what’s a called “the violent and sexual offenders list” Seen more than 1 person have to deal with being in the same list as pedo’s for unrelated reasons.

[@ToneTheTappinFret]

Grandpa Dope's Line "Age is just a number" line didn't age well obviously.

[@johnmclean8414]

In addition the line 'I've got a big hunger' for, you know, Children

[@NotFckingBen]

“That one didn’t age quite well”

[@imaXkillXya]

FBI open up!

[@gone9820]

aged like milk...

[@Phrogg1es]

"nothing in this world will stop my hunger"

[@binxglitch]

it makes me uncomfortable that sexually attacking a young boy is called a "blunder". the people that were assaulted by these men will have to live with what was done to them. I don't think these predators should be allowed to forget what they did, because their victims don't get to just forget.

[@WobblesandBean]

Ed didn't feel any remorse at all. He's a monster.

[@binxglitch]

@@WobblesandBean seriously he just wanted to get away with it and move on as if he stole a candy bar once or something. monsters like that shouldn't just get to have huge followings, the sentiment of some of these comments lamenting his death and sympathizing with him is so depressing

[@jackdawson5490]

I completely agree but I think the use of the word "blunder" specifically was sarcastic

[@benisgay9315]

yeah it kept making me uncomfortable that wavy kept calling it a "mistake", it sits very wrong in my bones

[@mycaaaaaaaa]

@@benisgay9315 i agree

[@puffpuffpassmako]

Honorable Mention: Robert Krampf AKA The Happy Scientist. He was an educational youtuber that posted informative and really cool science videos, ranging from demonstrations and experiments to simple education and knowledge of how certain things work. His videos were often used by teachers in lessons and classes. He seemed like a stand up guy and even got featured on several talk shows. However, his home was raided and his computer was discovered with over 50 GB of CP. He was arrested and found guilty. His channel was almost immediately terminated and even reuploads of his videos were purged. KZbin wants this guy to completely be forgotten, as he should be

[@youtube-kit9450]

This is honestly something I never get about these pedos. When they have CP on their PC or something, it never is like a vid or two, it always is like ten thousands or pictures or double-triple digit gigabytes of CP, it's like they are "eh, I'm a pedo, might as well absolutely hoard the everloving shit out of it" or something

[@user-xn6wu4gj3d]

@@youtube-kit9450a common thing these sickos do is have a collection of the stuff to apppeal to different weird fantasies and types they have. Ew.

[@Lola_Nico]

I remember saying to my sister “elderly peoples are NOT innocent. They lived long lives and made human mistakes, and even evil actions that cannot be forgiven”.

[@thedude5295]

Anybody telling you they have nothing to hide or no regrets for actions they've made in the past is either lying to you and/or is a sociopath.

[@TenableVegan]

Human mistakes you say? Would make sense for humans to do that you know?

[@Lola_Nico]

@@TenableVegan lol yeah what I meant is that old people aren’t innocent in the way babies are.

[@xrenegade87xchannel88]

Nobody is innocent it’s impossible for humans to be innocent

[@TheRookie01010]

Nobody is truly innocent but there's a difference between assaulting children and stealing a candy bar from your local grocery store.

[@caralho5237]

The worst thing about old sex offenders such as Don is that the crime on his record was likely not his first, just the first time he's been caught

[@halofornoobs93]

This doesn't apply to all sec offenders and is one of the most commonly thrown around bits of misinformation. The same thing also applies to some murders, but you wouldn't go and say "yeah, that guy has probably done some school shootings we just don't know about"

[@caralho5237]

@@halofornoobs93 School shooting is different from sexual abuse. Some crimes are much harder to notice

[@imjonathan6745]

How do you know?

[@scionixx9568]

How do you know? Do you have more information?

[@moralkombat66]

Actually compared to other offenses, sex offenders don't have that high of a recidivism rate iirc. But i wouldn't doubt it wasn't his first

[@Neillan]

Don was literally the IRL Herbert The Pervert. Asking for user's full details, those songs, private skype calls and messages, just being generally shady, how the hell did people NOT pick up on that crap? Not to mention all those (including Wavy) feeling sympathy for these disgusting menaces. They should be put down the hard way, not coddled and forgiven!

[@infiniteobject]

He even sound like him

[@Leotv19]

Sounds like you need a fondle

[@b1nary_f1nary]

And he has a framed portrait of Seth Green (the voice of Chris Griffin)

[@tree_alone]

@@b1nary_f1nary this is murdering me

[@MK-ok6yp]

Sorry but the punishment does not fit the crime what he did was horrible but that does not mean he shouldn't be able to live his life after serving his sentence what you are arguing for is a very dark and authoritarian view point.

[@christasaurusrex8078]

"I can't believe that wholesome old man could turn out to be a pervert!" "You mean the guy who looks and sounds like a stereotypical pervert?" "Yeah."

[@noodlepoodlegirl]

I know, I don’t wanna be agist. But these guys look creepy as fuck.

[@worthybutter2004]

No need to worry. I think it's more the BODY LANGUAGE that's creepy, rather than their age.

[@stoat2854]

i kinda figured it out when his voice is literally herbert the pervert edit: one of my best comments is about herbert the pervert, neat

[@k4tzz_cc]

The voice is already super creepy.

[@mattg4836]

@@stoat2854 I thought the same thing lol

[@pones3123]

3:12 "Age is just a number." This, class, is what we call forshadowing.

[@MajinMoon]

Heard that and did a double take lmao

[@curbyourshi1056]

Actually did a read out in my head in real time of Count Dankula giving his "foreshadowing" speech as he spewed that lyric forth.

[@flarestorm9417]

"Age is just a number" is one of those phrases that sounds good on paper until you realize what terrible things would also count under it. Like saying, "be the change you want to see in the world", only for someone to post a photo of Hitler. Or saying "love is love", only for someone to bring pedophilia into the mix.

[@youtube-kit9450]

I don't know how anyone was caught by surprise by an old creepy guy looking like Herbert the Pervert, acting like Herbert the Pervert, having a photo of the voice actor of Chris signed, and singing about how "age is just a number". Like I mean, there's "don't make any assumptions" and being willfully ignorant to the extreme.

[@Joehtosis]

Ironic that you posted Featureman in a positive light. That aged like milk.

[@poopyscoopy6984]

who

[@TheMarshmelloSquid]

And on a video about predators on youtube

[@anitacrumbly]

is that segment erased? i dont see any segment about featureman

[@jordansegall4484]

@@anitacrumblyhe is mentioned briefly in the intro as a good elderly creator although it was uncovered not too long after this video that he is in fact a pedophile

[@Brainulator9]

​@@anitacrumbly Featureman is mentioned at 0:14.

[@BillehBawb]

"he was so close to his fans in fact, that he would sometimes ask them to dm him their full name and address" uh ohhhhhhhh

[@NotFckingBen]

“Foreshadowing is a literary device in which a writer gives an advance hint of what is to come later in the story.”

[@FMeister94]

But also nothing comes of it i.e. him abusing members of his audience. Just hits as creepy in hindsight.

[@miastrong151]

@@FMeister94 You never knew how much he talked to him and how persuasive he was. He could have done a lot with just that information. Trying to find out who his audience was is a red flag. His car has a lot of miles on it.

[@Cezuhhh]

Don actually just died the 21st of last year. I only found out about his terrible actions last night, and then found out today he’s gone. I loved this dude’s videos so to discover he did such a terrible thing, and then see that he’s dead while still trying to wrap my head around his actions, is such a strange mix of emotions.

[@safsnake]

dang

[@NJR330]

same

[@novarachnid]

These comments are odd to me. He hurt another person, and you’re feeling emotions? God, this comment was dramatic as hell. Wash your hands and move on from sick humans. It’s simple. Give their victims at least that.

[@crwonshe]

Shows talent it's also found on the sick and then you know the reason why you should not idolise anyone, Hollywood is one perfect example.

[@crwonshe]

@Thisis Gettinboring paedophilia it's one of the most evil crimes, it leaves a mark for ever and sometimes carries and passes on for generations. Never justify it or give a inch of doubt to offenders.

[@JewelWildmoon]

Honestly, the second he said "Age is just a number," I felt like there would've been something dark he was hiding even before he was exposed.

[@eschelar]

Why? I hear people say that all the time. I'm a middle aged lifter and I train loads of people at the gym, many of them are also middle aged. They say this quite a lot. Nothing creepy about it. You're just applying your beliefs against him because you've been shown that he was accused of a crime. We can believe that he was innocent or we can assume he just wasn't able to make a very good defense in court. I dunno. I wasn't there. Fwiw though, I didn't get that vibe from him. I got a vibe from him that he was a little out of it and wasn't entirely sure what was going on around him. I could definitely see him in court struggling with keeping up with a fast talking lawyer.

[@jarrarwinks8470]

@eschelar. Dude, nothing, and I mean nothing justifies what he did. Also, the “Age is just a number” line is said by many who support pedophelia, you can mean it differently, but it still has its meaning. Also, no middle age person in the right mind says age is just a number tons of times, or like you said they do, its pretty dumb to do, it like if I said “N*g*er is just a color”, I could mean it in some strange misconstrued way, but it still has its negative connotation.

[@glasrazuma933]

I thought the same when I saw the title but that's just me.

[@JewelWildmoon]

@@eschelar If they specifically apply "age is just a number" to things like that in terms of jobs, skills, progress, etc, that's ok. But if no context is given before saying it, most people are going to assume the person means it sexually because of how many people use it for that nowadays. Which ended up proving to be true in his case, so the concern when hearing that out of context is pretty understandable. I don't really need to know that the person got in trouble for something to feel comfortable when I hear that phrase. Unless I *know* it's in a different context. The context you're applying here is a different situation that wasn't clarified in his case.

[@TheJbh147]

@@eschelar the context of where you're hearing it is presumably meant to convey the idea that age won't hold them back. They're referring to THEIR ages. Without that very important context, it generally is meant to convey the idea that age should not dictate ability to consent because it's nothing more than a number. If you hear people saying that and they aren't clearly talking about it with regard to their physical ability, check to see if they pop up on the list. Seriously.

[@mr_brown5974]

I think this applies here perfectly: "you either die a hero or live long enough to watch yourself become a villian"

[@braken63]

A sexual offender was a villain from the start

[@mr_brown5974]

@@braken63 Not if no one knew. Plenty of people in your life that have really twisted secrets that you will never find out, and they will die heroes. No one is a saint. People just have vices a bit more acceptable in society than others.

[@zs4580]

I just hope that someone is taking care of Don's weird little pug dog. That dog is so cute with his little weird teeth sticking out and it's hard for a dog when an elderly owner passes. Plus it's not his fault his owner was a creep.

[@TimeBunny]

Yeah, I hope his little dog is at least being taken care of. Don may have turned out to be a creep, but that’s not the dog’s fault.

[@rustyshackleford7265]

A nice Chinese family adopted the pug. I believe they own a restaurant of some sort

[@fumiko2994]

@@rustyshackleford7265 no you didnt😭

[@lilatune]

@@rustyshackleford7265 NO-

[@TheManinBlack9054]

@@rustyshackleford7265 ok, and?

[@MakeItWithCalvin]

Having worked in a job where I had to do training for spotting "predatory" behavior the rule is sadly everyone is a suspect. It is really sad when people abuse their position to prey on people. Especially when it is the elderly as we naturally respect and look up to them.

[@dude9318]

Usually people that do that have some sort of mental problem .No person that mentally healthy can do crimes like that

[@yourmum955]

Who's we? I don't lol

[@JimmyPizzaDelivery]

@@yourmum955 Ok, "mum".

[@blvvdy.kisses]

We?? Are you speaking French

[@Suisfonia]

@@blvvdy.kisses No he's not, not sure where you got that impression. By saying we, he is referring to most people which is in fact true - as most people in society do respect their elders (I do, for example, unless I'm given a reason not to)

[@jstring]

My gramma God rest her, was a mountain climber and dated into a biker gang when she was young. She always still had a nefarious streak. When we were at the grocery store she’d intentionally bump people in the line at the register with her cart and laugh and when people looked back they’d just see this sweet doddering old lady in a kitty cat sweater with the doily thing around the collar. Old people are still people good and bad. As you are I once was. As I am you will one day be.

[@Amitlu]

Well that bit about Featureman aged great

[@Thegoatone23]

It sure did it sure did…😞

[@ParuPParuu]

What did he do?

[@Will-22]

The fact Don had a picture of seth green (who voices Chris Griffin) just adds to him reminding me of Herbert the pervert. Especially the voice and the hair cut

[@penguasakucing8136]

the eerie thing is he SOUNDS EXACTLY like Herbert

[@thekendrashow]

No way…

[@maresdreams8731]

Oh man hahhaa

[@maresdreams8731]

Wait whos listed as herbert on credits!?

[@jeffreyepsteinseggshapedpe143]

Seth green also has been accused by a few people of being a p3do. Isaac kappy for one said he was a legitimate perv.

[@DarthCrax]

I never knew Ed's full story. Most people I've seen talk about it just say he was an offender and show the pretty woman video as a creep factor. It's nice to know the full story

[@1Dispretty2me]

the full story is that he molested a child & repeatedly broke the terms of his release and is now bitching and whining about not being able to go on youtube.

[@jessicakey-olmsted9838]

I'm currently watching and haven't gotten to Ed yet, but it upsets me how naive most are about him. Yeah he looked creepy and he did sexually offend, his offense being smacking a 16 year old on the butt. Most KZbinrs who cover him never mention how regretful he was about it and I feel like they leave that detail out on purpose just to add to the creep factor. Yes, Ed was in the wrong, but to leave out details like that and have people think he was raping people and shit isn't fair to him.

[@buteocks4020]

Feature man intro aged poorly

[@drzaius8430]

I feel like he was done wrong, in a SA victim and he never denied what he did until everyone wanted his head. I get revenge and punishment i do, I get the pain more then anyone but. He changed, he just a few years of joy after telling the world his crime. After so long he deserved just a little bet of joy.... If God can forgive us killing his son, we can forgive this. I forgave my Abuser, not everyone can true. But we as a species never deserved to live as long as we have yet here we are. Give a old man who's live is nearly gone just a little light. That's all.

[@MadScientist267]

Yeah that one was pretty sad. Dude seemed to be just trying to pick up the pieces of what was left and make something simple out of it... I absolutely do *NOT* condone any of the actions by either of these guys that led to the stories that make up the video, but damn if there isn't a line somewhere between them. I'm not sure where exactly it should be drawn but... Ed and Don are not on the same field.

[@CANTSLEEPAU]

I think anyone with Herbert's voice should be avoided at all costs regardless.

[@kyletucker3811]

So I'm not the only one that noticed. 🤣

[@xtlm]

Not only the voice, but the look, face and dog too.

[@Cautionary_Tale_Harris]

I thought, "This dude HAS to be cosplaying as that Family Guy character!"

[@paulbagnall5910]

lol. v true. see my comment above. disgusting creep just to look at and listen to. dont need to know anything about him. v bad vibe

[@mrbisshie]

He sounds like that guy nicknamed Micky Mouse, that got busted on TCAP.

[@ellohooman3244]

How was anyone watching these guys thinking they WEREN’T pedos?! They legit look like the people our parents warned us about.

[@RR-on4sk]

Right?!? 😮 If it quacks like a duck...

[@WeeklyDoseOfCeleste]

It's because people have morals to not judge a book by it's cover

[@losgecs]

cause they were white lol

[@missvida6251]

@@losgecsdont get ignorant and arrogant. There are plenty of black ones as well

[@Zammiey]

@@losgecs race doesnt have anything to do with it. People though EDP wouldnt do something like that and he did. you're literally downgrading the situation by revolving it around race.

[@dirtydirtmcgogurt]

Don is like the unfunny & real-life version of Herbert the Pervert from Family Guy. He even sounds like him.

[@toddthechimeralinguist]

I had to scroll way too long to find a comment like this one. Don's similarities to Herbert are overwhelming.

[@ComradeLavender]

Yeah this is an extremely bizarre coincidence.

[@armcollector5856]

Except for that distinct whistle he has that would've made me laugh even more 😂🤣... Also it's sad bc this whole situation is just disgusting & even with old ppl ( guess they dont care how old they get lol ) they still carry out these sick horrific acts... u can tell by just looking at him ( hate to say that bc shouldn't judge) but man he just gives predator vibes big time not to mention their is no cure from being this way they are just sick & disgusting & their is no changing that imo... anyways hope u enjoying u day & be safe out there!!

[@dirtydirtmcgogurt]

@@toddthechimeralinguist lol, I scrolled and then scrolled again because I didn’t believe no one said it.

[@UncleSkiBum]

100 %

[@Deathtofrogleghorn]

I live in Ohio and the reason why you can’t find a whole lot of information on his case is because to protect the identity of victims of sexual assault, DV, and similar cases, they won’t release details of the crime. When you try looking up their cases, you won’t see any court documents showing up like in any other cases. This is something new they started over the past 2-3 years after in 2 separate cases a perpetrator tracked down their victims using court records of all things to kill them.

[@staceyanderson3634]

My husband was absolutely devastated after hearing about Edaram, but he knew him as Edmus. As a kid he watched his late night horror movie hosting gig every week. His wife carried on responding to some of his fan mail in later years and even after his passing. Very odd old dude.

[@Blox117]

ok creepy stacey

[@paulbagnall5910]

so was jimmy savile, and he fucked corpses as well as abusing maybe a 1000 kids in his time. yes a very odd old dude. it is just a cover.

[@TheFemSniper]

@@Blox117 the fucks your problem

[@travismurtland3257]

Glad people like Skyrim Grandma are around to level the playing field by being unbelievably good

[@GibolsTTV]

There’s also a grandpa that plays apex legends…saw him on twitch a while ago.

[@IvanPlayyz]

What if Skyrim Grandma becomes a Fallout Grandma as well

[@timothyburges]

Turns out she sells crack

[@moonbased7796]

People also like that elderly woman who plays animal crossing (her name is Audie I think)

[@Hotobu]

They're gonna find people in her basement when she dies.

[@M2Mil7er]

PlasmaMasterDon: "age is just a number" Judge: "prison is just a building"

[@petermmm42]

the law is just a words

[@petermmm42]

and life in prison is just a concept 😃

[@GumSkyloard]

"Age is just a number" so is 911.

[@petermmm42]

@@GumSkyloard yes

[@petermmm42]

spending life in prison is just a concept so is 911 and the prison being a building

[@xspacerose]

he did NOT make a mistake and nor was it a blunder. it was a conscious decision he made.

[@iCarus_A]

Conscious decisions could be blunders too. Just watch a regular person play chess

[@kazoo4rent]

@@iCarus_A comparing sexually assaulting someone to chess??? HUH????

[@braidena1633]

@@kazoo4rent No. He was describing a conscious decision in chess as being a blunder.

[@ykshay]

Holy shit that's long as fuck, that's crazy, tl dr heheh heheheh HEHEHEHEHHAHAHAH, stfu 👺

[@naufalr.9521]

@@kazoo4rent they didn't, at least i assume they didnt

[@lovleyloner1487]

I love Great Depression cooking I used to watch her after school those long days just curling up and learning about foods while enjoying her wholesome vibes was top tier and encouraged me to cook. I suggest her videos so much she has some good recipes and vibes.May she Rest In Peace 🤍☁️🙏

[@robpierce4712]

Don Owens may have been convicted of just the one offense but you don't get to that age and suddenly decide to spontaneously do that. I'm sure there is much, much more in his past that he managed to keep hidden.

[@robpierce4712]

I'm so sorry you had to go through all that!!@@biancajade728

[@NoPastNoFate]

People with developing dementia DO reach old age and start doing things that they restrained the impulse to do their whole lives. Saying things they would never have said before, touching people inappropriately, doing things they never would have done before. So stop acting like a single incident of misdemeanor sexual imposition by a 70+ year old man is proof he had been touching people his whole life.

[@NoPastNoFate]

@@biancajade728not true. Most elderly have some level of cognitive decline and often do and say things they never would have done before. They lose their ability to restrain impulses.

[@robpierce4712]

@@NoPastNoFate What you say may be true, but when it comes down to it, you have no more proof that your assertion is true than I do. This guy was in full possession of his faculties. Stop minimalizing it as a "single act of misdemeanor sexual imposition". Would you feel that way if it was YOUR child? I wonder...

[@NoPastNoFate]

@@robpierce4712 it is not true that I have no more proof than you. You have zero proof he committed prior acts. My “proof” is that there are zero recorded prior incidents, zero prior arrests for anything remotely related to the activity, and zero allegations. It is true I can’t prove a negative, it is not possible by definition…but you created prior incidents out thin air based an the false assumption that people ‘just don’t suddenly start doing stuff like this’, when in fact the opposite is true. The elderly have a long established and documented history of behaving impulsively, saying and doing things they never said or did before. In fact these are documented symptoms of the cognitive impairment of old age.

[@kuromi2880]

24:35 i don't think you understand what being sexually assaulted does to someone. I get what you mean, seeing an old man get his hobby taken away is sad and all, but this old man traumatized someone and may have ruined their life. I don't have any sympathy for him, he did this to himself.

[@Africa893]

yes but the issue here is: does putting him through all that decades later, after he hadn't reoffended all that time, change anything at all for the victim?

[@seadog2.0]

I agree but here’s one problem with that. He did it decades before he started KZbin. He shouldn’t be punished for something he did decades ago and he did his time

[@Spinogrl2000]

@@Africa893 As someone who was assaulted as a teen, I have to agree. It is commendable when people prone to these vile compulsions learn to control it. It's not an overnight thing, like "I offended but I'm better now, teehee!" I've never had the urge myself, but I have had my vices I had to wrestle away from, and it takes a lot of mental work to reign yourself in. Ironically, I would put a lot of the physiological dependence I had on alcohol as a coping mechanism for never truly processing my trauma. I suppose my point is that while I don't necessarily think all offenders can be rehabilitated, those that can should face their punishment and be allowed to try and rebuild themselves into a better being, and that a lot of people have something dark preying on their minds (some things worse than others, obviously) that they have to beat down. If we won't allow them that, we might as well just chuck them feet first into a woodchipper (which is what I would recommend for those who can't be rehabilitated. Yay saving tax dollars!).

[@shadowsightcore7917]

@@seadog2.0 he was convicted in 2019 be serious

[@seadog2.0]

@@shadowsightcore7917 I wasn’t talking about the 1st dude

[@baronofnothing8896]

The depressing thing about old people with bad/creepy content is that they won't have that much time left to turn it around. They will die as a hated old guy and will be laughing it up that his recently discovered secret didn't get him into jail.

[@melodi996]

Many deserve it though.

[@koweedate]

@@melodi996 though not quite

[@kayjay674]

I think the child predators deserve to be known as the hated old guys

[@banana9494]

and even worse is how their victims have to live their entire lives with the trauma caused by these men.

[@BooksAndShitButNotLiterally]

@@kayjay674 you mean predators? lol

[@shekelgoldstein]

Don always creeped me out from the beginning. It’s basically Herbert. It’s just weird someone that age is involved in technology like that fully independent. Featureman has a background in film, Clara has kids that do it etc. Especially since Don had those rap videos, seemed like he liked the youngins too much

[@AnalizaTheSnark]

Ngl I wondered if he was the inspiration for Herbert the moment I heard his voice

[@BigPurp9]

I thought it was just me, all I could hear was Herbert the pervert 🤣🤣

[@johnbrigzywardy4596]

Did you say strap in or strap on hmmmmm

[@fawnieee]

Yeah, especially when he used kids music like that sesame Street one, very suspicious. I want to believe there's just wholesome content like that but the world is too fucked to not be suspicious.

[@qwandary]

He is so much of real life Herbert, it's ridiculous. Sounds and looks like him and acts like him.

[@danielanderson6013]

I'd never heard Ed's story. It blew me away. I remember Uncle Ed on channel 41 out of KC. He hosted 41 Treehouse Lane, a kid's show in the afternoons that showed cartoons and had a live audience. Even then he was a bit eccentric and did stuff like combing his hair down and singing "Tiptoe Through the Tulips", emulating Tiny Tim. I'm genuinely saddened despite his crime.

[@darktower0603]

He hosted the Creature Feature Saturday nights while I was a kid in Wichita KS. He went by Ed McScary. That's crazy lol

[@xin215]

at some point people need to be forgiven especially if its like 40 years later and theyve done nothing since lol

[@mikemitchell9157]

Ok im from Ohio. The only place you will find weather the victim is a minor is in the registry. Another sure sign that it was a minor because they refrain from mentioning they are a minor or even stating and age. They only hide that in documents when a minor is involved. So the victim was a child.

[@vorstadtprolll]

Well spotted mr sherlock! :) we need that in germany ( the register thing)

[@wavywebsurf]

thanks for this comment

[@mikemitchell9157]

@@vorstadtprolll id be cool with it being a world wide thing and that info put in a world wide public database.

[@mikemitchell9157]

@@wavywebsurf no problem bro I got ya buddy

[@kmsdaily]

@@vorstadtprolll Germany doesn't have a great history of making lists of people, doesn't tend to turn out well lol

[@nomorebeans800]

"Age is just a number, nothing will ever stop my hunger" now thats just fucked up in hindsight

[@__-tp4tm]

Thinking about different interpretations of many things said by many people can often lead to such conclusions. But in this case tbh, it didn't need much speculation.

[@snattlerake4417]

You don't really need hindsight to see how creepy it is

[@snooganslestat2030]

So Ed got more time in jail for breaking probation than actually assaulting someone. Says a lot.

[@majestyzx9081]

Yeah, it says he didn't take is probation seriously, thus taking the freedom he was given for granted. Really makes him seem like he has no remorse for his actions of sexually assaulting an underaged boy.

[@nicoledoubleyou]

I mean, probation is part of the consequence of committing a crime, if you, say, get a DUI, and the judge gives you probation instead of jail time, that means if you break probation you will likely go to jail, and that will be part of the punishment for the DUI, does that make sense? Usually breaking probation does lead to a harsher sentence cuz the probation was offered instead of a heavier sentence, but if you break the probation then now you have to serve the heavier sentence. Hope this made some sense

[@zad_rasera]

Better safe than sorry. We wouldn't want a scenario where people say, "Why didn't the law do something to stop this?!"

[@radornic2387]

@@zad_rasera People aren't gonna complain that the man is uploading videos on youtube when he is prohobited by the law to. Not like its some hurtful crime.

[@bo-dine7971]

Probation is worse than just doing more time "then & there". It's a trap, for sexual predators it's fine because it actually makes sense and works, but for all other criminals it's just a way to get them sent down for something stupid. Uploading youtube vids is not the weakest offense people violate probation with, a great example everyone should be aware of is being near convicted felons.. That's right, if you're just NEAR a convicted felon, that can be enough to violate probation.. It's crazy.

[@tonifranklin8876]

14:54 I THOUGHT THE DOG WAS EATING HIM FOR A SECOND 😭

[@skulduggery5052]

These men chose to attack children they don't deserve sympathy, pretending its a mistake is disgusting

[@nick4560]

Pedophilia is not a choice, it is a mental condition. Sex offenders know it's wrong, but can't control it.

[@eri1609]

@@nick4560 of course they know its wrong, they either just dont care or they convince themselves into thinking what they do is okay. and they can absolutely control not sexually assaulting a damn child, they choose to harm children, consume such material, and give into their sick fantasies and desires, if they cant control it, then why arent they all locked up even if they havent commit a crime? saying they arent able to control it would insinuate that they WILL eventually commit such heinous crimes.

[@nick4560]

@@eri1609 Want to know why lolicon and shotacon exists? It is to prevent them from going out there and doing their thing.

[@theleagueofextraordinarysu788]

@@nick4560 There’s a story about a teenage boy that told his mom he was a sex offender early on so he could get help and therapy. Grown men should be brave enough to do the same

[@nick4560]

@@theleagueofextraordinarysu788 I really wish

[@dingdongfootball5331]

Ed had a very disturbing look about him, and he was unrecognizable from that clip you showed of him as a younger man. I wonder if he did drugs at some point in his life or something that made him age so terribly.

[@RonnieWalten]

most likely

[@Ad_Astra__]

its because he lived in Florida

[@buckadillafilms]

17:52

[@bellaknightR597]

@@Ad_Astra__ really? 🙄

[@bellaknightR597]

I agree, the second I saw him I was like "Nope" and exited full screen

[@GravityTrash]

>3:12 "Age is just a number" THE SIGNS WERE RIGHT THERE

[@abandonedhhhv]

🤨💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@abandonedhhhv]

Oh nooo

[@5ouIs]

"Age is just a number, nothing will stop my hunger" Really? No one saw that kind of red flag?

[@TommyCrosby]

My dad that once said he could kill the abuser if I would have been abused as a kid. But wheb he worked in an halfway house he became friend with a reformed past abuser. For those who are reformed, the eternal guilt is an eternal punishment by itself. Sadly, there's almost no way to really tell if someone is reformed and despite knowing at least one, I still internally have trouble to accept that they exist and wish all child abuser rot in prison and don't feel guilty about it.

[@samuellennon1984]

Your dad seems like a good person. But I personally think once a child abuser, always a child abuser. They are unforgivable. Could I kill one? No. But I wouldn't say no to watching one die a slow and painful death and not feel happy.

[@MyFriendlyPup]

Tie a millstone to their foot. The Bible gives clear direction.

[@TommyCrosby]

@@samuellennon1984 well, there's many more details like the fact that he wasn't a serial child molester and after going to prison did everything he could to get help to fix his problems because he understood the impact of what he did. It's fucking hard to befriend someone who did horrible stuff (especially to someone of his own family), but at least I know that this guy was genuinely reformed and went on his dead bed (cancer) trying to fix things with his family. But as I said, even knowing ONE reformed pedo doesn't change my stance, serial child molester need to rot in jail and never be released for the sake of public safety. I would also sign any petition to pardon a parent that killed the guy who molested his child (ie: Gary Plauché)

[@nl-ho4wm]

your dad is an hypocrite, to be fair all people are....... but is so ironic him saying that he could k4ll the ab7ser if you were a victim and later bacoming friend with an ab8ser, I guess he doesnt care as long his child is the one that doesnt get hurt.

[@nl-ho4wm]

@@samuellennon1984 that dad is not a good person...... . If that ab5ser had hurt his child he would have k6lled him, but instead that ab8ser hurt another person so he became his friend, he doesnt care about other children.

[@lizardBoi]

The fact that he died after that one Vid came out makes the situation even more crazy

[@yeeg7729]

You mean creepy

[@bumblebeeproductions1673]

Nick did god’s work

[@timmy841212]

The exposure of Don’s arrest definitely helped to end his life. If only he kept his hands to himself smh I hate creeps.

[@maccamachine]

you mean amazing and perfect timing cleaning up the trash

[@thekendrashow]

10 days later at that.

[@RogerH_CxP]

When he was singing "Age is just a number" i immediately went from smiling to being disgusted .

[@garyhost1830]

The next line " and nothing in this room/world? Is going to stop my hunger" HOLY FCK that old sick bastard. Classic him hearting the dodgy grandpa comment

[@alexanderdesade8554]

same

[@twiggy1253]

Why? It was irrelevant

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

In his defense, I’m pretty sure that in that context, he meant that in the sense of not letting his own age get in the way of doing stuff he enjoys doing, not indifference to age of consent.

[@__-tp4tm]

Well yeah, but always be that naive and you wind up in more than unpleasant situations. In the end, being cautious is always better than to blindly believe the world is only a place of goodwill and/or misunderstandings.

[@LifeInPink999]

Ed’s story is indeed different from Don who was using his KZbin channel to interact with kids. If Ed indeed never vomited the crime again and lived isolated only with his channel as a human connection then I guess I do feel sorry for him. He didn’t seem to try to contact anyone on private and his content seemed innocent and I believe he was aware that his channel was monitored so I doubt he had any intention to do the same as Don, just a lonely man trying to find some joy in the life he stupidly screwed up by himself and ruined another’s, anyway a very morally complex case. I don’t know if his victim forgive him or not but it seems that he paid for what he did his entire life at least there’s that which is much more anyone from Hollywood p*do ring will pay and for far more horrible crimes that many never ceased on doing with their victims being far too afraid to speak. I just hope that his dogs didn’t end up in the streets after his imprisonment…

[@alenmack3471]

I stopped listening as soon as you started preaching that conservative BS about Hollywood.

[@joshsmith7955]

Ah yes, the modern day liberal. Different opinions? Nope can’t have those. Heaven forbid someone thinks differently them me.

[@alenmack3471]

@@joshsmith7955 Keep eating more paint chips.

[@DrDolan2000]

​@@joshsmith7955 I think they may just be a troll trying to start a fight. Pay no heed

[@dildonius]

​@@joshsmith7955 It's a bit odd that they're ranting about "the Hollywood pedo ring" while simultaneously defending a man who committed sexual battery on a 14 year old boy and repeatedly tried to duck the sex offender registry.

[@markymark443]

"Age is just a number, nothing in this world will stop my hunger" seemingly innocent lyrics, but knowing what we know now, it's just revolting...

[@posemwen]

I don’t think someone is adorable or wholesome just because they are old. Who knows what kind of life they lived. Just because someone didn’t die early doesn’t mean they are a good person…

[@Houdm]

The fact that they didn’t find anything bad on edarems computer does make me feel like he did truly learn from his horrendous mistake and corrected his actions. It’s just hard to get past something like what he did but idk he seemed like he would not reoffend. But with someone who is willing to do something like he did it is hard to properly judge their moral compass.

[@WadeAlma]

Lol. Molesting a 14 year old is now just a mistake.

[@darkithnamgedrf9495]

Idk I think he shouldn’t have gone to jail, it was more than 20 years from the incident and although absolutely heinous, he seemed to never try anything again

[@vismattress5760]

@@darkithnamgedrf9495 dude. please be joking

[@iClone101]

@@vismattress5760 About what? The fact that he was being sentenced for a crime committed decades ago that he already served his punishment for? Had the incident occurred today most courts would likely take a different stance toward the idea of an indirect video upload. He was just trying to live out his life with the eye of the government making that impossible. The sex offender registry is essentially a death sentence, as you will live virtually imprisoned and unable to even leave your house without scrutiny for the rest of your life. There's many people who deserve that for what they did, but there's also many that don't.

[@Viking_Raven]

The judicial system is supposed to be rehabilitative in nature not only punitive. This is what they do to a rehabilitated man... Then again the orders weren't that hard to follow, being marked by your past must suck, but consequences are consequences.

[@toast3591]

It always makes me sad when talking about the elderly because it’s almost hard to associate them with such heinous crimes when looking at them it’s so hard to remember that they once lived through the ‘prime of their life’ and chose to do awful things

[@freemorox5896]

You dont spend your life being an awful person and then suddenly become sweet and kind on your 60th birthday. If anything you learn how to hide your awful traits better. Old people also know they can get a pass or benefit of the doubt and unearned respect due to their age. Some of the most vindictive and manipulative people I've met are seniors.

[@stopYmpersonatYngmYacCount]

"You are sentenced to life in prison" "Ah, so, year and a half."

[@ginamcgill7054]

Quite a sensitive handling of the Ed Muscare example. I didn't know about his television personality past which puts his YT success in much better context - this is missed by virtually everyone who talks about him after the fact. His crime was heinous, people needed to know he lived among them. But the story does raise some uncomfortable truths about how society handles child sex offenders - they can't ever be rehabilitated in real and genuine terms, because we can't or won't let them be. And I'm not sure there will ever be a way to reconcile that.

[@willow0nlin3]

good

[@sarahcooper5272]

There are places in the word where they have preventative rehabilitation, which aims to stop people like this from ever actually offending. I think that it's a lot easier for someone with these disturbed feelings to offend if they think there is no help for them anyway. Rehabilitation after the crime will always be difficult, I think. There's no way society will ever not be disgusted with them. I do wonder if putting their address into the public is just asking for trouble? Is this just an American thing?

[@whatsthebigfndeal]

Pedophiles should be executed. That's the only way to make sure they never hurt another kid.

[@ddz1375]

There's been studies done saying that people who are sex offenders and especially those who abuse children are actually born with a brain disorder that compels them to do so. Meaning they can't be fixed. I'm not standing up for them whatsoever but I am stating a fact. Also there are a few organizations out there about keeping up community of pedos together. They also have a community of pedos who are not offenders that consider themselves virtuous. In Florida I think St Petersburg there is a whole community of them in a trailer park since there was nowhere else for them to move to they have conglomerated them together in one place. Sorry it's a long-winded post. Having been a survivor of such abuse I really don't consider these people capable of changing or being helped in any manner. Maybe they can put out a trailer park in the Mojave Desert for them to live in

[@whatsthebigfndeal]

@@ddz1375 They need to be removed from the gene pool. I don't care how it's done, whether it be from strict isolation, execution, whatever. Just get rid of them. Of course, that would result in losing the majority of the entertainment industry, educational establishment and government but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

[@nickonerd]

Yeah.. a 70+ year old man will never apologize for any of this… how many years do you think older criminals have rationalized their sickness? He doesn’t feel guilty for his actions, he never did and never will.

[@neuroatypicalkirby2]

why do you call these mens assault a mistake or blunder? they were fully lucid, seemingly had no conditions that made them unable to comprehend their actions, and they enacted harm upon people who would struggle to fight back. that's no mistake, that's deliberate. do not give these men any undeserved credit

[@definitelynotamantis4346]

He already clarified that it was a misuse of the word and apologized

[@AnimalCollectiveArchive]

I also tilted my head after hearing the word "blunder" just because of how it's very blatantly untrue. I think it might be hard for a person to fully grasp how sinister and unexcusable their actions were especially after learning more about them. Once I gained sympathy for them I found it hard to acknowledge what they did.

[@blazikenowen]

while I do agree it shouldn't of been called a blunder I wanna point one thing out about your comment we dunno if they were fully lucid and all that obviously it doesn't excuse any of it and I'm not in the slightest defending em what they did is all kinds of fucked up but we can't for sure state there mindset during it as we have no evidence to anything of that either way thank god the predators are gone for good

[@OncelerKidsAreCringe]

Yeah he said it was his bad

[@tapset]

Look up the definition of blunder and mistake.

[@kayjay674]

The worst part Is that they've been exposed for being predetors when they're old but you don't just get to be a certain age and become a predetor. They will have been doing shady things far before this and just not been caught untill they where much older and harder to be brought to justice.

[@rashira9610]

Okay but Shady does not always mean illegal...

[@kayjay674]

@@rashira9610 in this instance. I am specifically referring to elicit activity surrounding children.

[@cryingalone7572]

Idk there is a guy in norway that turned pedo after being beat up so badly is brain came out of his skull and became somewhat of a retard so I can't really blame the guy that got his head opened by dumb ass kids and would rather blame those kids that did the violent act as the guy with brain damage are not in controll of his actions after his brain got the 5 second rule treatment like a slice of bread

[@viddotts44]

I wanna argue actually that this isn't always the case. I've done some research on like, the human psyche and stuff. People can just change, for the better or worse. There are studies of people who do monstrous things later in life and literally have no sign or anything of having hurt others throughout their lives. And then there are some who were just always like that. Human beings can be incredibly strange.

[@averysspookshowspectacular6205]

@@viddotts44 Or something traumatic happens to them later in life that causes them to do these things. Human brains are weird.

[@Terryterryterryterryterry]

People seem to forget that old people weren't just born old. Bad old people were bad young people. Bad young people will grow into bad old people.

[@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888]

ppl can change yk

[@ocalimirosubso]

@@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888 "people can change" yeah i dont think s"x offenders will become one of the wholesome good old people we know when they grow old

[@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888]

@@ocalimirosubso you dont know their lives they could have trauma and are reflecting it on others they need help just like everyone else

[@ocalimirosubso]

@@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888 i dont know man i'm just not trusting a s"x offender but you do you ig

[@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888]

@@ocalimirosubso ppl have free will so they can change

[@m0002856]

The second story is definitely something. Unfortunately, we can't be 100% certain that the guy never had more than one offense, and we can't be certain that he never offended again. We also can't be certain about what his true motives for trying to dodge the registry were. If we take his story at face value, then it does sound like the tale of a guy who made a mistake in his life, he overcame those urges and moved past that mistake, and then was forced to constantly keep moving away from various locations due to harassment until he eventually got thrown in prison where he died. But there could always be more to the story that we can't see.

[@arcadeguy781]

Right

[@crj_stan3237]

ngl the casual dismissal of child sexual abuse in this video is kind of crazy

[@majestyzx9081]

Yeah, the more his (Wavy's) personal opinions come out, the more he makes himself seem like a trash person, tbh.

[@ts-z3r]

wasn’t it juvenile? 16+?

[@aylamiller5752]

Even if the person he sexually assaulted wasn't underage, that doesn't excuse that he's old enough to know he shouldn't be touching anyone without their consent. That's still not cool no matter who was assaulted.

[@corey2232]

I like how you went through & matched Don's car year/make/model, birthday, & other evidence, just to make 110% sure... as if it wasn't obvious from the mugshot & name 🤣

[@0uttaS1TE]

You always gotta make sure.

[@frozone1669]

With how the internet is today someone could probably deep fake an insanely good image of you. Always got to make sure all bases are covered before throwing out claims

[@DeflatedHorse]

They tried to confirm him better than the guy they thought was the Boston bomber

[@champnotchicken4318]

@@frozone1669 You could literally look it up. Its public record.

[@harryblockser]

mf sounds like Herbert 💀💀 his vibes were fucked from the beginning

[@edwhatshisname3562]

Not online related, but for a long time I went to a daycare as a kid that had a man working there who was a neighbor of mine. Then years later after I had just graduated high school I go to get the mail and notice my old neighbor's face in the form of a mugshot on the front page of the local paper. It turns out he never quit working at that daycare center, and he had been caught assaulting a 3 year old girl, a crime that he later plead guilty to. He was also an older man. It really came as a shock to me because I had known him for years and never noticed anything questionable, and that really made me wonder how long he had been doing that. Sometimes you think you know people, when really you don't.

[@conflicthorizon]

Its very unforgiveable. If indeed these people were children, they will have to live their entire lives with being touched. Where these men had lived their entire lives or were older adults already.

[@Ariioch]

Don is literally the real life version of Herbert the pervert and you can't convince me otherwise 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@arcadeguy781]

Oh I agree

[@DEFxRECON]

It sounds inhumane, but these types of people don’t deserve sympathy just because they’re old or sick. With that mindset, think of their victims. Who knows how traumatic that shit can be.

[@runethorsen8423]

yes - it sounds inhuman because it IS inhumane - the first fallacy is "these types of people" - what "type" would that be? Be precise now. "these types of people - you mean old farts? Jeez your type of people needs internment camps - you can't be allowed to vote with that attitude ...

[@kittysoftpaws3677]

Unless they have a mental illness it's not white forgivable but they do deserve sympathy after all if they didn't have that mental illness they would probably understand the concept of wrongness and know what they did was wrong

[@Leotv19]

Wrong

[@ezBeanie]

Why do people generalize that victims are always automaticly traumatized and scarred for life when you get creepy texts from a stranger. People are overreacting

[@funnelvortex7722]

@@ezBeanie Sexual assault is a bit of a step up from just sending inappropriate texts.

[@vl-toxic-iv4812]

One day I was driving my girlfriends dad to move things to our new house for the family and he told me a very uncomfortable story of the time he used to work for this place where they took care and housed mentally ill residents and that one day 2 cleaners went missing they didn’t know where they were for a few days they searched and that someone opened the closet of one of the residents room and found one of the girls with a bag over their head and the other one was in another room sadly both of them died but he told me that after that day he never ever let any of them get close to him because even tho they might approach you so polite they can easily kill you and instead he would have to yell at them to not get close and they would get scared and go away

[@anonymousandy2789]

Never underestimate the elderly they have been alive a lot longer. They are experienced and calculated.

[@Scruffy-qi3ik]

until you realize a large majority of them have regressing minds in some shape or form, either from memory related stuff, or worse

[@DioOdinson]

@@Scruffy-qi3ik Sounds like Biden

[@cosmicnova2355]

@@DioOdinsonall you ever think about is “liberals” because the “news” scares you every day about them… try watching regular tv.

[@annn2780]

i have a hard time finding Ed wholesome even if i didn't know about his crimes. Guy just looks creepy

[@miastrong151]

The dog thing was sick. He should have deterred his dog from gnawing at him. Just sick.

[@godemperorlech5422]

@@miastrong151 The dog wasnt gnawing, it was suckling. That happens with animals whose mothers reject them.

[@miastrong151]

@@godemperorlech5422 It is still inappropriate, and the animal is not a baby. He is also not its mom. He needs to make the point clear. If that is what he is willing to show on camera, imagine what he is not showing.

[@frown2462]

​@@miastrong151 What are you even talking about? It's just a dog doing some weird thing that he thought was funny. Not everything is some secret sex thing.

[@godemperorlech5422]

@@miastrong151 jesus christ mia i was just correcting you

[@typhoonthunder]

as a senior content creator, you're either a timeless beloved treasure or condemned to the recesses of the worst parts of humanity

[@alfonix6053]

typhoonthunder?

[@cicadasrule]

Are you a weirdo, your videos are weird

[@kauffythesilly]

You’re video says your 20?

[@typhoonthunder]

@@kauffythesilly yep! wasn’t speaking on behalf of seniors, was just saying as a general statement

[@maccamachine]

@@kauffythesilly you’re a little slow huh🤣

[@TranceXZero]

24:10 makes you really see how much the dog really liked him, I wanna cry now :c

[@galladesamurai2380]

12:59 I just noticed something, in the obituary it says he worked for 30 years as a plasma burner, and his channel was called PlasmaMasterDon, I think that's just even more evidence

[@dustyc324]

Brilliant

[@jas.oncroft]

When he rapped "Age ain't nothing but a number and nothing will stop my hunger" With hindsight those lines are pretty chilling.

[@Torgomasta]

🤦‍♂️ with hindsight lmao…

[@weirdokate8840]

even without hindsight, that sounds terrible. i know you can take it as "oh hes singing about his own age" but regardless, sus af

[@jas.oncroft]

@@weirdokate8840 good point. It is like Aaliya album "Age ain't nothing but a number" now r kelly has been convicted, that album with hindsight has a darker vibe

[@oystersoup3434]

Meanwhile, "NearlySeniorCitizen YetAGamer" is a wholesome elderly KZbinr who's extremely interactive with his audience. He's so likable and entertaining.

[@theenzoferrari458]

I just hope he doesn't come out like a plasmamasterdon

[@azazellon]

There are two more-- ShirleyCurry and rsgloryandgold. They play Skyrim and OSRS, respectively.

[@kazumablackwing4270]

@@azazellon Shirley Curry is pretty much the grandma of KZbin at this point, at least on the gaming side, and I'm honestly glad to hear rsgloryandgold is still around, even after keemstar and a bunch of his degenerate sycophants made all those false allegations against him a few years ago

[@azazellon]

@@kazumablackwing4270 I know. I was just pointing them both out.

[@dopesickdog]

there's also Food4Dogs!

[@ineedaname5928]

That featureman mention hits different now. Yikes.

[@loboneiner1034]

Big time

[@edstar83]

I feel sorry for their dogs. I hope they went to good homes.

[@MarlinSapphire]

I was just thinking of that. I’m more sad for the dogs. They are innocent

[@Jackfrostsbestie]

especially when there are multiple dogs, they probably weren't adopted together so I can't even imagine living your whole life with your dog "siblings" and your owner and then having your whole world change

[@cringer8107]

I get the vibes that he used his dogs to feed his needs

[@ProjectStarLIGHTS]

After he was locked up his, well I don't know what she is to him, girlfriend? mentioned the dogs were taken care of

[@moonman2022]

16:41 Toilet brush as back scratcher is brilliant; I'm getting one. Thanks, creepy old guy.

[@plantboyztv5720]

He is literally the real life version of the creepy old man from family guy. They even have the same voice!

[@therandomname69420]

At least, Herbert didn't actually do anything it looks like.

[@ALIEN-DUDE]

@@therandomname69420 didn't do anything that we are aware of.

[@EvonneLindiwe]

🤣

[@LegendStormcrow]

@@therandomname69420 He changed his name and moved to hide from pedophilia allegations. Guy's the same as Herbert

[@azazellon]

Didn't Herbert save Chris from a fire or something, and run straight home with his lifeless body? He's done things.

[@Schizophrenia222]

Whelp....gotta add Featureman to this list as well now.

[@charlesn.2881]

Kind of hard to say Ed never reoffended. All we really know is he wasn't *caught* reoffending.

[@CmlDexter]

And all we know is that YOU haven't been caught offending. The fact you know that makes me question your innocence.

[@radornic2387]

Guilty until proven innocent, after all.

[@birbo9489]

so we just gonna assume things, alright then

[@herculesbrofister265]

@@CmlDexter right, classic case of projection. I remember this guy at work, he was really upset one day about a customer allegedly (in his opinion, maybe for real idk) stealing stuff. He's like we can't let people get away with this, it's BS that i'm not allowed to confront shoplifters, blah blah blah. Turns out, over the span of the 6 months or so he was there, he himself stole thousands of dollars of video games.

[@yourmum955]

Sorry mate you like kids, we've just never caught you