The Disturbing Fall of YouTube’s Creepiest Kid - Zazef, The Girl Hugger

[@wavywebsurf]

ok seriously though, who or what are we talking about next?

[@saltycomet]

Rooster teeth?

[@matteng1448]

Good question!

[@Billy_Souls]

MoonMoon, the God Gamer. The mystery - where did his hair go?

[@monaroboy124]

One of KZbins original legends, the Numa Numa Guy

[@ewanwickward8587]

Etika WN! I loved that guy so much. I lot of people have seen his face and such online, but I feel not everyone knows the full story. Lets get some new Joyconboyz in 2022 🤟

[@darkcrescent2903]

I always feel bad for the dudes that think getting a girlfriend is the end game, kind of sad thats all they think of nothing else for their future

[@-xirx-]

Probably 90% of hormone ravaged teen boys at some point

[@janitoad7342]

can also guarantee that's WHY they don't get a gf

[@Giliver]

Its hard being alone man.... I'm probably not far off from this guy myself. Not a pedo though lol, no idea if he actually was set-up or not but Yee yiiikes.

[@Zireael83]

eah, since my divorce several years ago i haven´t tried at all finding a new girlfriend. and i like my life better at the moment, more time for me-related stuff. would have been better for him, too. he probably could have been a full-time youtube by now and had the time of his life

[@Soulvale88]

Desperation isn’t sexy. I feel like a lot of these guys are just obsessed with sex and don’t really want a gf. Wanting a gf is wanting a living breathing partner that you share yourself with. I think if they could get a sex doll that was indistinguishable from a living human with an on off switch you wouldn’t hear a peep out of them until they actually wanted a companion and not just sex much later in life. Now obviously there is always going to be the random young dude who really wants an actual relationship but I find they don’t seem to be so angry about it like your typical incel.

[@seanbardwell2067]

He grew into a good looking,fit young man. If he didn't obsess over having a girlfriend he probably would have found one.

[@SY-ok2dq]

Yes his facial bone structure developed well as he reached adult age. But his eyes have a kind of cold look, like he could play a villain. They look squinty and in some photos, especially when wearing glasses and with his face angled strangely, his eyes or expression almost suggests mental retardation. The arrest photo is one of the few dead-on front view photos where his face isn't at a distorting angle like his videos. By far his best photo. But the problem lies in his attitude and mentality, which other people get a glimpse of through his odd movements, attention seeking behavior, and general bizarre actions. But being strange doesn't mean you try to break laws and try to pick up minors. Few people want to get involved with someone who seems crazy or could be a criminal.

[@killallbtsfans2990]

Nah he would of become Elliot Rogers

[@glitternpain]

"if he didn t obsess" like it s so easy. Mental health is a serious issue and many times it is society s fault

[@SY-ok2dq]

@@glitternpain That's a stretch. It's less likely to be "society's fault" and more likely to be his parents' fault, or the fault of those immediately around him (possibly bad relatives, such as a molesting relative or a priest or pastor, or teacher, bullying classmates, etc.) Was society to blame for the Columbine killers? Or what about serial killer Ed Kemper? Once yoy hear about how his mother treated him, you have to wonder if she had made his condition a whole lot worse. It's possible that she recognized something "wrong" with Kemper and that's why she treated him that way. But she could have gotten him some psychiatric help. Instead she fueled his rage and he became a serial killer. We don't really know enough about this Zazef guy to draw any kinds of conclusions. But I have to wonder about his parents, and what was going on at home. A lot of Zazef's actions seem to be about getting attention. And he seems infantile.

[@dugsbunnyog3544]

The idea of obsessing over a girlfriend is the issue.

[@FrenkTheJoy]

I loved that lady who clearly knew what he meant by "you give my rocket power" but was making him explain it so he looked like an idiot.

[@GigsTaggart]

hugh mongous what

[@alkv7604]

Im sorry for my lack of knowledge on (probably) old memes, but can you explain? Is it a lame pick up line? Meme?

[@bonjourphoenix7487]

@@alkv7604 i think its a meme idk

[@jolocamotion]

I think she handled that well because by asking what he meant probably made him feel uncomfortable. I like the way she responded to the situation.

[@sserotoninn]

@@alkv7604 it was a little silly pick up line, but he made it awkward for the both of them

[@spaceinvader9815]

I used to be like this guy. Desperately wanting a significant other. Then my therapist asked me a question that changed my mindset. What next? And that’s when I realized that I wanted a significant other not for the sake of love, but to prove that I was just as capable and manly as any other guy. I pursued women for the wrong reasons, and after spending 6 years working on my mental health and adopting the mindset of wanting more friends than lovers, I can say I’m living a happier life.

[@nkha23]

Sometimes, it's the simplest question that has the biggest impact. I was hurting after my ex, and I broke up. A girlfriend of mine asked me the most impactful question. "Be honest. Not with me. But with yourself. What did you two have in common?" I sat on that question, and it hit me like a ton of bricks. The hurt lifted within a few hours after focusing on that question. She was right. We had little to nothing in common.

[@doodadsdandy]

Absolutely!!!!!!!!!! fucking spot on! a lot of these relationship obsessed people it's on being viewed as worthy by men which makes sense bc we live in a patriarchal society where "money + women to fawn over them = the best fucken dude ever 😎😎😎" and then if you don't achieve these things then you're a cuck and a follower and not one of the COOL GUYS. whether they think they're cool bc of their wealth, power, dominance etc majority of the time it just leads to trying to BE them. putting all of their self worth into if they're macho and a provider for their family (usually via financial support) so even when they score the girl, the family, the job, if the wife earns more than him, this type of man then feels emasculated bc HE should be the provider bc what would his mates/family think if they knew! etc like it's such a vicious cycle and the patriarchy NEGATIVELY effects men far more than people let on!! i'm so glad you're feeling more confident in your relationships, after having that flip switch for me too recently (mainly that like sooo fucking much just boils down to capitalism/patriarchy and i can only control ME so fucken get on with it and stop stressing jeez lmao)

[@IAshess]

are you gay now?

[@yaruyaru]

​​@@nkha23 Just a brief question. For how long were you together? P. D. Also, why did you get in another relationship if you were yet hurting by your ex gf?

[@nkha23]

@yaruyaru the ex, and I were together for nearly a year. Not particularly long. The "girlfriend of mine" was a platonic friend who was a female. We weren't dating. Lol sorry for the confusion.

[@SparksTheUnicorn]

I don’t care how “desperate” a guy is, you don’t go for literal children. He harassed women in public. He needed to stop obsessing over women and focus on himself. I hope this jail time will help him reflect.

[@acvieluf]

truth. and there's no excuse for that ever. there's another side of this coin, too, though. those police had it out for him from the beginning. he was definitely a creep, but according that news story, local police targeted him. messed up on both ends

[@owlobsidian6965]

@@acvieluf they could have targeted him all they want, all he had to do was decline meeting up with a little girl.

[@acvieluf]

@@owlobsidian6965 like I said, I agree with that completely

[@SparksTheUnicorn]

@@acvieluf I’ve had local police target me before and it was at least a 2 month investigation. Honestly all you have to do is not do the bad shit they want you to do. Like if it was a real thirteen year old he would of met with her. (I should mention that the two months was terrible and I hated every moment of it and constantly being interrogated not fucken fun. But at least I didn’t do anything and was let go… unlike this creep)

[@bignoseman3031]

He’s probably gonna use his perverted acts to women in jails

[@certifiedgyal]

Imagine being the cousin who genuinely wanted a hug from their relative, and then stumbling upon said relatives _public_ video a few days later of him calling you "hot" I'm switching states

[@theannoyingdahg]

Better move up north 💀💀💀

[@totallynotditto1573]

I'm switching planets

[@Wassuuppbitches]

Move up to the middle east it’s amazing

[@awesomecraftstudio]

What's wrong with Alabama?

[@Oh_the_humanity]

I thought the cousin bit was satire

[@roonkolos]

Remember kids: Doing something ironically long enough is a gateway drug to doing it unironically

[@futab05]

I used to say "Pog" ironically but now I can't fucking stop. It's just part of my vocabulary now

[@a.q.2330]

@@futab05 for me its the word sus

[@helmit_kid9755]

thats explains like all of discords minority hate(+furrys)

[@commemorative]

@@futab05 mine was based. luckily i am no longer addicted

[@persephone5025]

For me it was dabbing 🫣

[@bigsisterval]

It's insane to me that he literally grew up to look like a male model. He had the face, the height and even the body and yet he was acting like a neck beard from reddit. Comes to show that it really does come down to confidence and personality.

[@ptyxx]

I really hope you're not serious.

[@bigsisterval]

@@ptyxx not serious about that success in dating comes down to whether you have a good personality or not or...?

[@filmtheory783]

Unless your me then no matter what you do you can't get a girlfriend because...........that's it theres no real reason just because

[@ptyxx]

@@bigsisterval it obviously doesn't and its proven by numbers (well on dating apps which aren't a good representation of dating in real life but that's what we have). I don't think you realise how hard alot of men try on those apps.

[@jensk4198]

a model? in the thumbnail he looks like McLovin 🤣

[@UltravioletNomad]

This dude is ironically the counterpoint to the incels, cause he works out, has a nice chin, and makes an ass of himself, just like the chads they hate, but is held back by an inability to connect with others and a bad personality. Humor is a good thing to have, but if you're using it to cover for a complete lack of confidence and contempt for others people will see through it.

[@akiko3688]

Just shut up

[@datura_boof]

he works out???

[@803kaleb]

@@datura_boof 9:45

[@hailtodachimp2950]

Mindcel

[@MrBegmar]

What is even more ironic to me is that he was doing all this pranks so he must had some confidence. I mean talking all that stuff to random women, recording it on camera and uploading to the internet requires at least some balls. I honestly couldn't do anything like that and I don't have problem socialising with people including women. It's like he had confidence inside but was totally unaware of it and was pushing himself in wrong direction because he had false self image.

[@inversion9651]

How did Zazef managed to look unwell while somehow managing to hug a girl to looking like a model with a nice chisled jawline. That's reverse logic.

[@pauljerome01]

Yeah probably the only thing he needed to do was lose the glasses

[@Wind-lx8zb]

@MuhammadK explain more...

[@jpm1544]

@@Wind-lx8zb epigenetic

[@geckomoriadaimyoofwano7157]

@MuhammadK please explain more......

[@KOmyself]

@MuhammadK are you going to explain more……………

[@ndlmous]

That dude has to be awkward as fuck, because he's not necessarily a bad looking dude.

[@Pandurz]

Exactly what I was thinking! As he aged a bit, his facial bone structure was actually pretty desirable. It’s too bad he couldn’t just chill a bit and refocus onto something besides girls. Danger in making this your whole persona and brand I guess…

[@releasethealbum6190]

I know right. He doesn't look that bad and not to mention he is somewhat conventionally good looking but his jokes are just really uncomfortable to sit through. If this dude wasn't creepy and maybe improved his social skills he could've gotten a girlfriend. I mean the obvious first step into finding a girlfriend is definitely not begging for girls to be your girlfriend.

[@jcolespenis]

@@jacobdussault2803 gay

[@alexbenavidez4500]

Yeah he grew into his features quite well actually His behaviour and demeanor though was just....slimy. Really gross and uncomfortable. That loud chomping whilst he was talking was disgusting and off-putting. He was deliberately making himself repulsive to women, and then frustrated that he was successful, and they were in fact, repulsed by him To have the confidence to go out in public and cause scenes like that could have been so beneficial for him. He could have used that confidence to be more outgoing and sociable, learning to actually talk to women more and specifically meeting them in places where they expect to talk to new people like bars or clubs, not in the fcking shopping mall when they're minding their own business or working

[@cha0spixie]

I'm glad someone else said it, because I was just here like... "that guy could have been a major hottie if he just had gotten to work on his social skills and self confidence"

[@adampavella1225]

Yesterday a girl hugged me, told me I was handsome, gave me a kiss on the cheek and asked me to come over sometime. It was my grandma

[@cyby124]

i'm 15 and don't got a girlfreind. not once in my life but am i fine? yes. life is fine

[@bradon_plays7778]

If you don't have a girlfriend, you need a grandma, they will insist that you are handsome

[@vanesslifeygo]

lol

[@n.b.2164]

I didn't have my first girlfriend until age 22. Sometimes it takes some of us introverts longer. That first girlfriend was horrible by the way, but I'm now happily married with kids.

[@rubyruby7573]

Yep Until You Lose Your Job Sucker

[@heathertaylor8904]

And a lot of us girls were in our room playing the same video games lol.. the introvert curse 😅

[@williamtaulbee7805]

I didn't lose my virginity until 18. took me a while

[@MsTooncesthecat]

Maybe it's time you give her a call

[@desirelabelle2199]

Woot.. Congrats dude..

[@PongoDaMan]

I love how that woman actually questions the rocket power joke, completely disarmed him being called on their (groups) bullshit. Satisfying to the max

[@bean5976]

Yeah a cool trick when men say a inappropriate joke like “ does the carpet match the drapes “ is not laugh and tell them you don’t get it to explain it they’ll most likely self examine get embarrassed and leave you alone

[@novaangle2183]

Dude's brain is the size of a walnut. I hate the type of people that make people like him popular online and give them a platform to show off harassment.

[@Dead_Again1313]

Yeah she handled that like a pro. Respect to her.

[@ahobimo732]

Fuck yes! That's how a competent adult deals with a misbehaving child. It's too bad he didn't have a real parent like that in his own life. Maybe he wouldn't be in prison now.

[@mrscruffles801]

@@ahobimo732 He's already out, but he's an offender for life, which isn't a whole lot better.

[@firegold763]

The ironic thing is... he grew up well, actually he looks good, if he wasn't a creep he would surely have a girlfriend.

[@storablesurvival8868]

I mean looking good is subjective, he's certainly not a 10 in my book but you're absolutely right, he's even tall... I get the vibe the guy is potentially on the spectrum or has some sort of social disability, and to top all of that off a fascination with Eliot Roggers is about as big of a red flag that some weirdo can put up.. women would be wise to never be alone with this man.

[@collieee2957]

I think he looks really good in favorable lighting, but in his second jail photo you kind of see why he’s not popular with women

[@calebfuller4713]

@@collieee2957 WAY uglier men still get laid. It's pretty much 99% his personality.

[@mrguy3746]

He didnt start looking good till later in life tho

[@justforrow]

He's not even creepy bruh, he tried his best, he has autism and is on the spectrum, if you call that "creepy," then your just heartless

[@SLRPAZ]

I'm so conflicted about this incident. When he's "making fun" of himself, he really isn't making fun of himself. I have two children with Autism whom are socially awkward. They have very poor judgment, but will do anything to make a friend or get attention. I'm wondering where this guys family was? Did they ever pay any attention to him? Either way... this is a sad story. And in my eyes (as a mom of two autistic boys) this guy saw his silliness got him attention so he just ran with it.

[@chachapasta6060]

Yea it’s really sad, as someone on the spectrum myself it gives me a lot of relief when I see people able to empathize with these situations . I hope your boys are happy and healthy, I’m sure they’re lucky to have you as their mother.

[@nedisahonkey]

He comes from a Russian family. I went to high school with him. Having Russian friends with first generation parents they're not the most attentive with special needs kids unfortunately.

[@TheDukeOfDallas]

​@@nedisahonkey "they're not the most attentive with kids, unfortunately.*

[@Skoopyghost]

I was diagnosed in 2010. I had a late diagnosis. Being diagnosed at that time messes you up. I don't know how old he is.

[@corimoon3360]

If that dude was female none of y’all would be trying this hard to make excuses…

[@Dez861]

The problem with these kinds of "relationship/sex" obsessed people is that they view other human beings as these "things" that they need to obtain in order to feel fulfilled, or happy, or accomplished. They would have no idea how to treat a partner or maintain a relationship when or if they ever got that far. Nothing good has ever come from thinking of other people as objects.

[@makaveli087]

See, I honestly see that in the other direction; These types of people put *way* too much emphasis on other humans. If this kid had calmed it down & understood women *are* objects; He could've gone on with his life without the pigs setting him up under the guise of "saving him from himself" or w/e type of extortion they were going for. Then again, the Autism certainly didn't help - never does.

[@Salmakia77]

Exactly this.

[@joelle4226]

@@makaveli087 …women are not objects

[@donalddoiknowyou1949]

@@joelle4226 what so wrong about asking a woman out. But what he did was wrong yes.

[@Cheetahlover]

No they don't.

[@tray6662]

He had good cheekbones and jawline and had a decent height, he probably could've gotten a girl if was just taught how to act like a person

[@SylvanasWindrunnerResurrected]

I mean he probably did before getting caught. Its just that his girls are kids

[@sad10promo]

"Probably"? Over here in North Texas, chicks would throw themselves at a dude who looks like him. He definitely needed to change the glasses style though or get contacts.

[@johnwerner69]

a decent height? lol

[@teratoma.]

@@syluno it's never about only looks, it's also about personality and confidence*

[@ss4kaioken295]

@@SylvanasWindrunnerResurrected idk I think he woulda took any girl but it wasn't even a real underage girl it was someone pretending to be underage and since they wanted to meet up with him he jumped for it. Just my opinion

[@StamatisIoannou]

He got arrested again almost two months ago. He is on the point of no return..

[@hunterkiller1440]

A caution tale on playing video games only and not socializing. Handsome lad with no social skills and can't take care of himself still equals no girls.

[@noni4315]

I don't think video games are to blame here. He's probably on the autism spectrum or has something else wrong with his brain. Millions of people play video games, a portion of them do not socialize, and don't turn out like this. Myself included. Granted, I'm a woman so I don't have a predisposition for being a fucking weirdo.

[@spawnglance6720]

That's what I was thinking. Puberty hit him like a freight train. Dude went full-on handsome Squidward

[@dfredankey]

@@spawnglance6720 really about more than the looks Fr no confidence/ self love will lead to dark places seeking that kind of love

[@spawnglance6720]

@@dfredankey Oh without question, I was just pointing out that with his looks all he had to do was have a year or so of genuine self reflection/improvement and he could have probably pulled himself up in a measure out of where he was before things came to a *minor* head ;D

[@nomad4338]

It's also a cautionary tale on self improvement, he very clearly never saw anything wrong with only playing video games and not socializing with people, the way he approached women he clearly didn't think there was anything he needed to do other than approach them, he never understood that there were certain aspects of himself that he needed to work on. That's the fatal flaw of most incels, they have this belief that they're already where they need to be when in fact there's a lot of self reflection and self improvement they need to do.

[@HelloHSR]

Zazef, The Girl Hugger sounds like a terrifying horror game.

[@windowlickerch.4241]

Zazef Hugger of Girls sounds like the worst Elden Ring boss

[@reptar5124]

Hes Huggy Wuggy lmao

[@HelloHSR]

OH MY GOODNESS 278 LIKES? THIS IS BY FAR MY MOST LIKED COMMENT!

[@KevinWolfGames]

LMAO

[@HelloHSR]

I officially have more likes on this comment than subs on my KZbin channel.

[@ShadowPianoProductions]

The irony of it is, the harder you try to get a girlfriend, the less likely you are to get one. Most of the time, people who are in loving relationships weren’t even looking for anyone in the first place, and then the right person just came along.

[@nightshadehelis9821]

This is spot on. Truth is, when you stop giving af about things like "having a gf" you're more likely to look confident and not an awkward mess. It took me awhile to learn that in order to have a girlfriend, you need to be friends with the girl first. I genuinely thought I would be forever alone and met by wife while I was recovering from surgery in 2018, she was my nurse. Just got married in March

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

Just like happiness, or that obscure spare part you need to fix something.

[@freerobuxgotomychannel7179]

thats bullshit lol. introverts are almost never going to get one by "not trying to get one" because they always keep to themselves and rarely leave there house

[@stagalgiz1097]

Odd, because I was just looking for a hook up and I met my wife. Been married for going on twelve years. We have a daughter and life is good... Oh right, yeah wasn't even looking... See fella's its true, don't try looking so hard and one lands in your lap, and on your face and...I'm just gonna go ahead and stop right there.

[@toketsupuurin]

The real thing is that there's a distinct difference between "I want a girlfriend" and "I want you." Just wanting anyone to fill that hole means the person who fills it is interchangeable. That shows up in your entire attitude and how you treat the person you're approaching. If you're desperate for "somebody, anybody" you're going to wind up with nobody. Or at least nobody good.

[@Jackfrostsbestie]

His mugshot proves that looks aren't everything, that even if you're good looking but have a bad personality and are weird and creepy, no one will want to date you.

[@petermuller608]

Something is really off with him, he needs help

[@jonathaningram8157]

Especially with those pick up line.

[@Anika9691]

Jeremy meeks ☠️ wanna talk to you

[@GamingintheAM0801]

This guy is living proof that looks don't matter if your personality is shit. EDIT: Jesus, people. I'm not saying the dude is a model, but he looks perfectly fine. He could easily get a date if he'd just stop being so fuckin' weird.

[@CreatureVision]

a cautionary tale to any young me. watching this. Just don’t be a fucking weirdo

[@vashantiwoodley]

Facts

[@MrSeanqueef]

@@vashantiwoodley aww look at the cute lil doggy

[@avacatherine5646]

Seriously. He’s not bad looking but god he’s so weird.

[@connoc5078]

It's because his personality was shit in the wrong way.

[@joebliven3445]

Whether he was joking or not, the way he approached those women and made sexual advances on them while they were shopping is appalling. How scary for them.

[@briarcook8855]

People like that are why I keep mace in my purse. I've had 3 seperate creeps pull that kind of thing on me, only to then folloe me afterwards, one even followed me home and drove by periodically for two weeks. Even jokes like that aren't funny, I'm by no means an exception, both my sisters, my girlfriend, and most of my friends have all had weird dudes harass or hit on us in public. Your a creep even if youre doing a bit.

[@novaangle2183]

You can tell it wasn't a joke. He liked doing it and got joy out of making them uncomfortable and being a sexual deviant. He was great at pretending for his audience to not catch on.

[@elleash3040]

Imagine being a survivor of SA and this clown approaches you in Walmart as a “joke”

[@rabidwolf]

If he did that shit to a girl and didn't realize her man was nearby he'd get his ass kicked. I know my man wouldn't hesitate to knock the shit outta this creep

[@Dead_Again1313]

@@briarcook8855 Damn that's messed up.

[@jamesoblivion]

The internet really enabled this guy's creepiness for waaaaayyy too long.

[@HusbandofLois]

Yeah, apparently it doesn’t matter who gets hurt so long as people are having a laugh

[@collieee2957]

KZbin back in those days had several channels that would do stuff like this, people like overboardhumor, adrianvanoyen as an example made this a popular trend

[@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad]

@@HusbandofLois Agreed Mr Griffin

[@PrinceRoyceFan667]

The Chris Chan effect

[@NavyCorpsman9]

The fact that he’s still committing these heinous acts is insane. He was just arrested on June 30th 2023 after sexually assaulting 2 minors.

[@havinghope6315]

That is so messed up. Chimos are not known to change. They should throw out the key.

[@pandawithanorange]

Literally everything shown here of him past the age of 12 is incredibly concerning. I cannot believe people fed into this and let it get this far.

[@amber7591]

Yeah I kinda wonder about that cuz we've seen that before. Ppl egg others on that they know struggle socially or are neurodivergent. I'm not tryna excuse what he did. The story just kinda reminds me of Chris chan.

[@rashira9610]

75% of the internet are miserable people that encourage other to tank their lives in order to fill a void in their own existence. That's just a given to happen when anybody around the world can join the conversation. Misery loves company.

[@matthewmartin1852]

what's sadder is the sheer amount of subs to the channel posting THIS vid defending him, or excusing his actions.

[@Luzuname]

Makes me wonder, where the heck were the parents??

[@Tw0Dots]

“People” “Let it get this fault” People are in charge of their own selves & can take responsibility, bc failures are their own. try again

[@minniemin1324]

wow that was a serious glow up. i remember watching his "i got hugged by a girl" video that was featured in many cringe compilations. i automatically knew he was THAT geeky kid who didn't fit in at school and didn't have many friends, if he had any at all. he looks like a totally different person in that mugshot and he is quite attractive. its a shame he turned out to be such a creep

[@kevindube7096]

seriously he ends up physically being “conventionally” attractive but by then it was too late & his mindset was already ready to fuck that all up, it really is sad but probably a good thing that his first fuckup turned out to be a police sting (I hope that was his first anyway & last)

[@PeterGriffin11]

I'm surprised no one mentioned how he seemed to be romantically attracted to his cousin.

[@Silvia.Araujo]

@@PeterGriffin11 Because it was confirmed that he only said that for shock value. Edit: Also, it wasn't specified in the video because it was supposed to be a joke, and he didn't expect people think he was being serious until later on in his life.

[@PeterGriffin11]

@@Silvia.Araujo I wonder why that wasn't specified in the video.

[@PermaJeff]

@@PeterGriffin11 cause it doesn't really matter tbh. the video doesn't need that tiny bit of information.

[@Jess-zm5xt]

It’s so weird seeing him just being a kid having fun with games to growing up and preying on a child one year older than he was when he first started making videos.

[@SY-ok2dq]

Guess he never grew up. There's a scene like that in "Lolita" where Humbert reminisces about the girl that he first became infatuated with, as boy, when he and the girl were 13 or something. Like he was mentally stuck in time.

[@Jess-zm5xt]

@@SY-ok2dq yeah I remember that, it’s a dark movie and book. Didn’t she die of typhoid fever and it like traumatized him forever? I wish people with these urges would seek help and not let it get to the point we’re kids get hurt.

[@SY-ok2dq]

@@Jess-zm5xt Yes she died, making a huge impact on him. But it was fiction. I don't know how much Nabokov really knew about what causes pedophilia. I guess he just came up with that part to try to explain how Humbert got to be this way. It's been suggested that pedophilia is something that some people are born with. We don't know much about Zazef. He might have always been this way, and only started to realize when he started to grow older than the girls he was interested in. It would really be interesting to know about his parents, home life, school life and other influences on his life.

[@wolfandraven891]

@@Jess-zm5xt Easier said than done. If it were treated as a mental illness rather than a "omg disgusting sick ew" thing. I knew a girl at one point who liked younger boys. But sadly, she eventually ended her life because of it and the fact she would always rant on about being called a monster or sick, when she had never actually done anything and only had these feelings. She may have had other stuff going on as well but I believe all that was the thing that tipped her over the edge. I wish people made it easier for these people to seek help instead of labelling them as less than human.

[@guydisorder]

@@wolfandraven891 agreed. also, i feel really sorry about her :(

[@aum9077]

"I got hugged by a girl... She was pretty hot might I add... She was my cousin..." Oh Lord 🥴🤣

[@Ovotun]

fun fact: marrying your cousin is actually allowed in Islam.

[@AustinJD84]

​@Matrixorial oh nice I'm moving there.

[@MatecaCorp]

The guy is proof that no matter your physical appearance, in the the end your personality is what gains and keeps healthy emotional relationships Emphasis on HEALTHY

[@Amahankage2004]

This has been proven a lie many times by studies, yeah on some weird cases it works but being hot or handsome its way easier not just for relationships but life in general, being ugly its an absolute curse.

[@dragon_ninja_2186]

Well a good appearance will help, but it’s only half the battle.

[@Leotv19]

@@Amahankage2004 sure it’s easier, but it isn’t the end all. There are countless ugly people who are in happy relationships. There are also plenty of attractive people who are miserably alone.

[@phil6844]

@@Amahankage2004 I lost a ton of weight around 5 years ago. I was actually shocked how different people started treating me once I was considered “good looking”. Opened up avenues at work and in my personal life that never existed before.

[@Amahankage2004]

@@phil6844 Im not surprised, no one should be, its innate on our brains to prefer good looking people, its sad but true, what pisses me off its people like the op of the comment that tries to lie straight up and be like "all that matters its personality".

[@shibedrill5642]

I swear my friend was going towards this direction. But he got a girl but he realized the hard truth that getting a girlfriend isn't everything in life. His first 2 weeks after his break up was miserable to watch. After that he started working out and just eating more healthy, he actually had a glow up in highschool. Highschool girls being highschool girls would always want to touch his six pack. He got alot of girls during his last year of highschool. But during graduation he sat next to me and just started rambling on why he can't make a girl just stick around. He just asked can i come over to your place or you come over to mine. He just started crying over my shoulder, saying nothings changed from his old self and alot of things that were just not true about him. after that we spoke a few times but after about 6years calls me out of nowhere saying he got my number from our close friend. Asked me to be the best man at his wedding. Even tho he has much better friends he just said i was there when he needed me most. He met a very beautiful girl in Uni and they hit it off. Very different story from this i know but just wanted to share a close friends life long struggle.

[@SleepySloth2705]

It's enough to make a grown man cry, and that's okay :')

[@haven_lady675]

Thank goodness your friend chose the right path. You are a good friend.

[@kat06090]

THATS WONDERFUL!! Have fun at the wedding! 🎉

[@shibedrill5642]

@@kat06090 The wedding was in August last year but thank you for the comment. Best of wishes to you too.

[@antonkrieg3708]

It's good to be there for your mate. Respect for having your buddy's back when he needed it.

[@ZiggyHernandez]

Yes, women are thoughtful human beings who don’t instantly swoon over a “cute” guy. The amount of commenters surprised by that is genuinely depressing.

[@ABABABABABABABABABABBBBBB]

Yes they do but not all of them and not over everyone. Sometimes they even swoon on a guy who was a random employee and someone took a picture of him

[@ZiggyHernandez]

@@ABABABABABABABABABABBBBBB 🤦🏻

[@ThyNightOwl_]

ikr...

[@Givelasagna]

@@ZiggyHernandez I mean they're not wrong. It works both ways

[@mrscruffles801]

Not all women are the same bro. Just like men, some are thoughtful and a lot are shallow.

[@slayboybunny6305]

To all my single people out there, the more you complain about being single, doing this, "Why am I single, how dare women don't like me!" Shit will make people not want to date you. Just work on yourself, find your own happiness, and enjoy life, if you enjoy life then more than likely you'll find someone because you're enjoying life and people wanna be with others who aren't constantly misserable.

[@havinghope6315]

💯! Well said. But will they listen? 🎧

[@ms_cartographer]

He tried going after a literal child. He shouldn't ever leave jail.

[@shinygiveaways1920]

damn straight

[@okayimdone8290]

PREACH!

[@josiek7589]

yep he genuinely could’ve ruined someone’s life forever

[@Whostolemymojo]

Exactly this, my opinion was a bit stronger but this

[@plantdaddy7738]

he deserves jail for being so unfunny. hopefully he will be someones pocket

[@larcen6206]

This sort of guys don't need a girlfriend, they need friends and I mean REAL friends

[@edify7]

Absolutely. It's an almost universal truth that incels lack good parental and platonic relationships, which provide the tools to establish and develop good romantic relationships. Why they arrive at the conclusion that a girlfriend will fix their problems is probably just a matter of hormones and sexual frustration muddying the real issue; that they don't have enough people in their lives that care for them.

[@desensitizedanalyser5624]

I'm one of those guys. I'm very very shy and socially awkward. I'm 20 and I've been alone for 4 years. I don't know how I'm gonna get social help to socialize with grown ups?

[@DirtyGeorge]

@@edify7 don't think he was an incel

[@DarkZerol]

From what I read about the dude, he doesn't seem to be an incel. It looks like he is incredibly socially awkward and socially inept. He also seem to have some learning disorder.

[@truindividual]

@@desensitizedanalyser5624 Therapy my man.

[@Iudicatio]

As a woman, I can say that I have encountered multiple guys like him who have never had a girlfriend before and seem to be desperately reaching out to any girl they possibly can. And it's very annoying and not a good look and you are never going to get anywhere with that. When a guy is obsessively thinking "girl girl girl I'm talking to a girl wow" and not talking to a girl because they like that girl specifically and what makes her unique, most girls can smell it from a mile away, it's like cheap axe body spray. We also know that if he were to get you, he would soon grow a huge ego and believe he can get any girl he wants and leave. Guys, please wait to approach a girl in a romantic way until you find a girl that actually stands out to you and isn't just the female who hasn't rejected you yet. It makes life better for everyone.

[@wonder777warrior6]

to add to this. never go for a girl who has considered joining only fans. they are all trash people. maybe..just maybe...theres a girl there trying to feed her sick grandma who lives alone. but there are bettter ways to go bout it without losing your modesty and keeping your integrity in-tact but even such a woman is extremely rare. a real woman is out there making a difference in the world or is in her room cause shes people shy playing video games.

[@calebgadison167]

@@wonder777warrior6 Okay and?

[@gamesake999]

Fair but, what if I locked you in a room for 20 years and everyone thought differently than you Lynn. I'm not defending this type of behavior I'm just saying people don't understand the horrors of autism.

[@isaiahvaldez3330]

@@calebgadison167 he is illiterate If you donate 5 cents we can stop this

[@beatcat1265]

Absolutely! This has always been a huge turn off for me. You can spot it a mile away. Definitely doesn't make a girl feel special makes her feel awful and she knows he'll f around on her

[@robadobflob3405]

The sad thing is that he didn’t lack looks, man just had no self-worth, social skills, or sense of internal morality, and by his own choice 😔😕

[@onionbubs386]

Seeing him screaming in public and freaking people out like that reminds me of Jeffrey Dahmer. He did the same thing to try to impress people he thought were his friends, even though they were actually just making fun of him.

[@skeletonkiss1112]

I'm glad I am not the only one who saw the relation.

[@bruhdon4748]

Oh really? I never knew this I always assumed Jeffery Dahmer was quiet and weird, is there any videos talking about this you could link pls?

[@bajenbilly]

@@bruhdon4748 it was told in the movie ”My Friend Dahmer”

[@anguishedcarpet]

Poor Jeffrey Dahmer :'^(

[@bajenbilly]

@@bruhdon4748 the full film is on youtube even

[@fitfogey]

I’m a grown ass man and this dude still makes my skin crawl. Can’t imagine women having to deal with this frickin’ creep hitting on them. This is the type of guy that would stalk a woman for life if she had agreed to his advances and then ditched him. Very sketchy person.

[@austentoland1193]

I agree. Even though I'm Autistic and I would never do any weird shit towards Women. That Dude makes me feel embarrassed because it's so uncomfortable the way he interacts with Women. I'm glad I don't interact weirdly towards them. Like my Family always said, "You'll find someone who will fall in love with you when she finds you when the time is right. Let her find you." That's why I'll do whatever in my life as time goes on. When it's my time, She'll find me and then I'll be the most happiest person I can be. I mean I hope.. 😅

[@oheyjennymay1699]

Lol you should see my Facebook inbox 😂

[@slaythembeforeme]

I think the last sentence goes without saying considering your whole comment is pointing out how sketchy he is.

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

Same, I really hate it.

[@thescreamingelfwillcry409]

@@austentoland1193 I love you dude

[@allyh7075]

it's a little disturbing how much empathy is being shown towards the literal sex offender and how little is being shown to the poor women and children he harassed. it's not "sad" or "a shame" that he decided to meet up with a child because he couldn't get a girlfriend - he made the choice to commit a disgusting crime. having no luck finding love doesn't give anyone the right to go out and traumatise strangers, and it definitely doesn't give you the right to assault a kid. seems like he thought the world owed him a girlfriend without doing the work to act like a decent human being

[@samseery1595]

exactly, all these people sympathizing with him as if he’s someone deserving of empathy

[@starcandy147]

we're not trying to justify his actions. we're just acknowledging the fact that he was not mentally well

[@skylined5534]

Incels incoming...

[@vespirbelmont3131]

I think people are more so showing empathy towards the idea that because he was failed by so many people that he fell down this horrific path to finally hit rock bottom. Sure he himself is a shitty person. But, how many kids grow up being shown nothing but hostility and negative emotions until they fall down a rabbit hole towards bad or even horrific behavior? If his parents had raised him better; he might've been a good person. If his classmates and teachers had shown more empathy and helped him learn to interact with people and what boundaries were; he might've been chill. But, because nobody did at all in his life from what we can tell; he's a sex offender. Which is a rock bottom of rock bottoms.

[@allyh7075]

@@vespirbelmont3131 I understand your point but he still holds the responsibility for his actions. Believe me, my childhood was far from sunshine and rainbows but I've never committed a sexual offence. Plus, my issue wasn't solely with people showing empathy to the offender - it's that combined with the lack of empathy for his victims that really bothers me. People will talk for hours about all the hardships a r*pist went through in their lives, and very rarely spend any time talking about their victims and the impact the crime had on them/their loved ones.

[@P_Diddler420]

Zazefs 2nd most popular video is titled “I hate chocolate people” 💀💀💀💀

[@stario]

That's the video that put him on my map. The twist was hilarious

[@nextirious6828]

“From hugging a girl to registered offender” that is probably one of your best lines ever 😂 Also he must’ve really liked that hug 😬

[@rencecs6720]

And its from his cousin, yikes.

[@vertihippo1274]

@@rencecs6720 Hey, I mean...Alabama

[@sakai_sukistudios4157]

@@rencecs6720 🎶sweet home Alabama 🎵

[@Deoxys911]

I really wish mental healthcare wasn't so stigmatized so that people like this could get the care they need without hesitation or shame, especially from an early age.

[@koDaffi]

I've tried the mental health care madness for a long time. Finally got tired of being told to basically get over it here's some SSRIs. You run into so many bad doctors that you get tired of even trying. There are some good ones out there though that do want to help. Should have finished this out. I did find a doctor finally after my lifelong GP retired and he was so awesome. First day we met I told him what all was going on, said ok let's see what we can do to fix it. If I don't want to take a certain med he doesn't force it and we treat it as teamwork. You know how you feel and what's wrong, you just can't be afraid to say it which is what 1 of the major problems is in healthcare nowdays.

[@fucksusan.fuckcensorship.874]

@@koDaffi similar experience here, before looking for therapy i used to smoke weed to deal with shit. never really found the help i needed and they kept pushing me pills so i thought if im going to be on substances i might aswell just go back to weed cause SSRIs made me feel soullless. Literally felt like when i took them my soul was ripped out SSRIs made me feel sociopathic, except worse cause even sociopaths care about themselves, i cared for nothing and no one including myself on SSRIs those shits are evil.

[@RobotronSage]

It's easy to talk about mental healthcare and how people need it and such when you have 0 experience with the mental healthcare sector. It's worse than big pharma m8.

[@Davids19WasHere]

I had counselors and doctors working with me since I was 8 years old to help me with my anxiety and depression. As of now I'm 22 and have been on basically every medication possible with no positive results. Sometimes there is nothing these "healthcare providers" can do.

[@sarcasticallyrearranged]

Some people can’t be helped by mental health care. It’s harsh, but, that’s just how people are born.

[@MundMoriginal]

Going into a supermarket and harassing the people there for internet ha has, is one of the worst things that came along with youtube and co. It's not funny, nobody involved irl thinks it's funny, and I have never met a person who watched such cringe to say it's funny.

[@akiva1168]

Frank hassle makes it funny

[@bigflx2754]

Only one who managed to be funny was filthy frank, but he wasn’t really harassing anyone imo just acting odd near them to get a reaction. But yeah, this dude asking women these weird ass questions made me super uncomfortable, shits negative funny

[@slamdangles]

black people think it's funny

[@GorillaFan_32]

@@bigflx2754 yeah I was about to say that

[@nepadron]

Kids think it's VERY funny, and kid eyeballs on yt is way more profitable than adults

[@SoulfulMafia]

wow dude the fact you are bringing these up - its wow. I have been an internet addict since 12 when I got sick then 14 and 17 literally almost died from my issues... so obviously I stayed home from school alot and grew up on 4chan and counterstrike 1.3-1.6. So many of these stories I just forgot about all together but as /b/ user ofc it was everywhere. You are literally taking me on a nostalgic trip everytime I watch one of your videos. im glad I subbed a few days ago. this to me is healthy, to get memories back after my TBI - one memory may unlock 10 more with it. 34 in a TBI group home, dont do drugs, so memory is sorta an issue going back. I love the reminders. Thank you for that.

[@TheJum]

So the cops thought he was being creepy and fished him. Man, I bet he would have taken anyone. Just that desperate. But still, 13? Yikes.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

well there is the argument that his emotional and social development resembled a 13-16 year old and as such it wasn't as predatory, but of course the law doesn't put much weight on that. also all the incel communities on 4chan and what not normalize and promote sexual attraction to and contact with minors with the lolicon stuff.

[@Aziz.500]

@@Ass_of_Amalek oh cmon man

[@Amins88]

Who's to say the cops didn't just fabricate the evidence and set him up? If he definitively was under the assumption that he was talking to a 13-year-old and agreed to meet her for these activities, he would have been restricted from social media after being released. The way he says his probation officer recommended that he try not to "accidentally" talk to anyone underage suggests that he was set up against his knowledge. Also, the kind of questions he says the police were initially asking him shows that they just wanted to take him down by any means necessary. Can't let ethics get in the way of locking up a creep, right?

[@JuanRanklin]

@@Ass_of_Amalek You mean reddit and twitter? 4chan literally catches guys like him lmfao man you guys really like cherry-picking the minority and treating it like the majority when the exact opposite is true.

[@ByzantineDarkwraith]

@@Amins88 I mean, I hate the cops, but the way you convince yourself that they *definitely* just set him up and fabricated all the evidence is pretty fucking hilarious/delusional. Your rhetorical question at the end, as if you’ve just proved anything… If he wasn’t knowingly meeting a 13 year old for sexual purposes, he wouldn’t have been committing a crime, so he wouldn’t even be convicted and on probation, genius. Do you really have this big of a persecution complex?

[@DennGreenIII]

He actually had a surprisingly crazy glow up. If he wasn't such a creep, he could have got a girlfriend pretty easily.

[@Pugetwitch]

I am a 42 year old woman in this man is NOT attractive. He looks like a methed out, jock version of an Aaron Carter x Steve Buscoumi, or however you spell dude's last name.

[@brimstonesulfur5013]

He got arrested again for assault

[@orcasea6141]

You disgust me if you like him.

[@godshand6822]

Dudes a legit autist bro i don't think so

[@derp195]

Yeah, I couldn't believe it was the same person. He could model.

[@superdeluxesmell]

Leafyishere is like an old hollywood executive’s idea of what a young person is. Fascinating.

[@Steezealways]

Yup

[@ashspike5232]

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[@anne5182]

What does this mean 😂😂

[@caljackal6139]

Leafy be always sounding like he's trying not to wake his parents up

[@xxxchild_predatorxxx107]

Yea

[@koretmulder6316]

I have two daughters about his age, and they were serious online gamers all through their teens. The reason he couldn't find a girlfriend wasn't because he was into gaming, it was because he was a toxic incel.

[@SnuffalupagusRising]

It ceases to be inocuous/"edgy humor"/a joke/experiment when you involve nonconsensual parties. You have no idea how many of those women were triggered by this "joke" due to past trauma and worried about having a stalker all week. Ffs he harassed a mom with her baby who's just trying to get her shopping done. Those retail workers don't get paid enough to deal with his bored, unemployed creepy ass either.

[@ineffablemars]

exactly. That part was not funny at all.

[@datura_boof]

hahah those vids were savage af. so cringe

[@andreadamon2197]

And I’d almost say with better, more charismatic delivery, it would’ve come off better, but some of those lines are downright disgusting and there’s no charming way to pass them off. Like the almost raping a woman one. That’s just weird and gross

[@PermaJeff]

lol

[@scrounder]

Nobody seems to consider how scared those women or the children must be - if someone is unhinged enough to approach you like that in public, you'd be afraid what else they could do if you responded in a way they didn't like. We have a right to go about our business without being harassed.

[@AssortedJade]

The phrase “And then Leafy is here” is practically a catchphrase for the channel at this point, amazing how often he appears like a jumpscare just around the corner

[@muertolamento]

Physically recoiled when he said that name

[@balancebreaker1561]

Man leafy needs to be back to youtube

[@GigaDonk99]

@@balancebreaker1561 Leafy needs to take a walk into busy traffic

[@drakashrakenburgproduction5369]

@@balancebreaker1561 No Leafy needs to disappear. The guy was never funny, never said anything significant, only caused unnecessary drama, had no chin, and had no talent.

[@thesteelsquid863]

Behold, the leafy grindset: >cause drama on the internet >refuse to elaborate and leave >jump into the world of investments or something and get rich

[@4urawrkr2]

Oh God. I once lived with a guy like this, and I've been dealing with the social and mental repercussions ever since. As much as I understand these feelings of loneliness, the harassment and eventually crimes he committed cannot be justified.

[@magolor152]

I'm sorry you had to deal with such a person...

[@lucyw.7597]

Exactly, I get a bit sick of abusive predatory people being described as 'having issues' as if thats somehow an excuse...the constant 'oh poor guy needs help' as well...its the victims of these creeps that need help. If the perpetrators , who know exactly what theyre doing, can source help themself if actually give a sh*t about their behaviour.

[@ProfessionalPacifist]

Damn thats crazy

[@ПаркурКанал-и6л]

First Zazef gets arrested in 2018, then in 2022 he got arrested again for assaulting underage girls, then in 2023 he was filming girls at a waterpark and the dad called the police and Zazef got handcuffed. I know this because someone made a youtube video about Zazef where a person on Facebook took a picture of Zazef filming girls. Then this June he gets arrested again for the posession of child material. It doesn't make sense, it's either he didn't learn his lesson or he's commiting crimes as a way of revenge which doesn't make sense because he's just making the situation worse for himself. Even in his livestreams he said that he might have to go back to prison, that was before he commited his latest crime and he's now currently in prison. He even said in his livestream that he would only date girls 18 or older and yet he keeps going after underage girls. It's crazy, I've been watching Zazef's videos since 2013 way before he got arrested and he really changed. That was back when he had his old KZbin channel, Za0000222. When I first saw Zazef's videos, he would make the most random troll videos. He made videos saying that he's responsible for 9/11, he also made a video saying that he killed his girlfriend and he made a video saying that some girl from his school, Diana saved a cat and Zazef would eat a bowl of soup in his video and not even look at the camera which I thought was pretty funny. Zazef would make videos saying that porn ruined his life and Zazef even had videos where he was actually crying because he doesn't have a girlfriend and he cried on his channel when a girl deleted him from Facebook. He also made a video where he said that some guy beat him up over his videos and Zazef was crying in that video. Unfortunately the Za0000222 channel got terminated so most of his footage is permanently deleted, he basically went from trolling to making prank videos and pickup attempts to getting arrested to becoming a repeat sex offender. It's sad, he appeared to be a harmless person back in the day, just trolling and making funny videos to becoming a criminal. He really changed over the years.

[@iresineherb7]

May Allah guide him and fix his mind

[@corvideity]

i think he wanted to ruin his life because he was fed up with being alone. he kept getting his channel banned by threatening to watch porn, flipping back and forth and just about showing it

[@corvideity]

we used to think his freakouts in public were funny like with the karaoke thing but apparently he was a common nuisance if you look at the other videos with his neighbors talking. they were fed up too and i wish none of this happened but it's like he thought he was too good to lower his standards or actually try to communicate so he deviated to whatever the fuck he ended up doing :/ i of all people know communicating is fucking hard but somebody like this would look at a girl who's disabled and on the spectrum and be like NOPE. porn is the way the pokemon cards prank call i remember being there for was fucking funny though

[@JustPeachesss]

Honestly i was happy with his content till he started doing catcalls. Call it what you want its disgusting to catcall period. No girl should have to feel embarrassed like that in public.

[@SisterKnight]

The squirtle on the jiggly puffs comment would have gotten him pepper sprayed, if it were me. That's sexual harrasment.

[@SN-vn6wb]

it really is. the first time i was catcalled, i was 14. hope he rots in hell.

[@joshinthesauce4636]

I have never heard of a case where catcalling has worked. It’s one of the worst ways to attract women.

[@strb3305]

I'm a bloke, and I get disturbed when random people talk to me, so I can only imagine how awful it would be if some random dude walked up and asked to fuck

[@iseespiritshelp688]

Just ignore and keep walking

[@Billy_Souls]

its funny leafy made fun of him being so close to the camera when leafy hid his chin directly behind his comically large pop filter

[@wavywebsurf]

true lol

[@KOmyself]

comically large pop filter xd

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

Cosmically large pop filter...

[@Chelaxim]

What chin?

[@michaelatias7021]

@@KOmyself no offense, I’m doing you a favor by letting you know this, people don’t use xd anymore.

[@turkeycannon161]

Shit like this makes me think schools need to teach social interaction, and basic communication skills. It's taken for granted that everybody will just eventually figure it out but more and more often it's made clear that just isn't the case.

[@untroubledwaters2137]

Are you serious? Schools are policed these days by the right so hard, they are banning MATH books in Florida. Good luck trying to get people on board with this. Good luck.

[@turkeycannon161]

@@untroubledwaters2137 Let's be real it's being policed hard by both ends of the political spectrum. Every avenue of every day life is being treated as a battleground in the culture war, whenever one side does anything the other retaliates and everybody that cares more about practicality than politics is forced to pay the price for that.

[@apacifistmachinegunner669]

That’s actually the entire point of the public school is to interact with different future members of your community or peer group

[@turkeycannon161]

@@apacifistmachinegunner669 Yes but that's not sufficient, people with severe social anxiety or other conditions that may make it difficult for them to socialize will still stick to themselves or with very small friend groups of similar people leaving them lacking in social skills necessary for everyday life. There needs to be actual instruction on what is and is not socially acceptable and how to interact appropriately, while many people just intuitively pick up on these things some people for one reason or another don't and it often ends up becoming a problem later on down the line.

[@korubi_eCSTatic]

@@turkeycannon161 well maybe we need to bring back those etiquette/PSA/educational type films like they had for young people back in the 50s or so, just updated for the times. There did used to be a place in curriculum and wider popular culture for instruction on (and expectations for) productive and healthy social skills development/interaction.

[@HCG]

If he didn’t have negative charisma and the social skills of a vegetable, he could have absolutely pulled.

[@DodgaOfficial]

He could have been a ladies man if he wasn't so damn creepy, he actually turned into a really handsome guy like damn talk about a chiseled jaw. He couldn't escape the awkwardness and weirdness of his past and see who he could really be.

[@PixelstarWASD]

I feel bad cuz in your case you are below-average looking so I'm sure if you have a gf she is settling

[@HowNeatImImpressed]

@@PixelstarWASD unnecessary but hilarious

[@DodgaOfficial]

@@PixelstarWASD that's not what your sister said

[@Rex-golf_player810]

There are a couple of people who physically look good (or at least not conventionally ugly) but with bad social norms. I mean look at fuckin Elliot Rodger lmao It goes to show even if you are hot you can still be creepy and threatening as fuck

[@heyanastasia698]

@@PixelstarWASD wtf was that for 😭

[@ILoveFood0911]

Dude had a pretty decent glow up...if he hadn't fell into a KZbin echo chamber and was able to grow up on his own he may have actually had a solid shot

[@Vetionarian]

I agree. In his case, had KZbin never been invented, this dude would be way better off in life. Yes he has autism but that would not have slowed him down nearly as much if he didn't get so absorbed with his online presence. KZbin can destroy someone with autism who can't fully grasp the blurred line between digital and reality.

[@rubyruby7573]

Believe Me We DO NOT Grow Up On Our Own

[@whyme3772]

There’s actually quite a bit of incels who are physically attractive. It’s their personalities that keep women away from them lol.

[@ILoveFood0911]

@@whyme3772 rip those nerds

[@digitalfracture8801]

@@rubyruby7573 Speak for yourself

[@maxipad3850]

Videos like this make me so thankful I had a friend during HS that saw I was a funny guy and helped me become socially adept, helped update my wardrobe, and we started an amazing friend group that lasted for a few years. Thanks to him I never ended up becoming just another socially inept weirdo spending all of his time on the internet. I will be forever grateful for his kindness he gave me back in junior year of HS.

[@rubyruby7573]

All These Incels Have No Idea What The Future Has In Store For Them That's What's Sad About It If You Were To Put An Incel Alone In A Closet With Someone Like Beth Thomas For Only Seven Minutes They Would Never Wanna Talk To A Girl Again Because Once You've Seen That Side of Humanity You Lose All Respect For Humanity And Justifiably So

[@aihnen93]

You should tell him how much it meant to you if it’s been a few years :) I’m sure he’d appreciate it!

[@maxipad3850]

@@aihnen93 oh don’t worry he knows how grateful I am

[@Schinzo__]

Anime pfp you’re still weird

[@maxipad3850]

@@Schinzo__ gore channel header and your calling me weird 💀

[@beanbean9364]

Literally had this mindset from 2020-2023ish. It’s such a deteriorating mindset to constantly want to be in a relationship. I’m thankful I still had some sort of mental capacity to not do anything EXTREMELY idiotic, but just remembering how my mind actually felt like it was destroying itself is just tough to remember. I’m 21 now, and I’m so glad I was able to be able to recover from this mentality a little quicker than many. If you’re young, be patient. Enjoy your life! Don’t constantly have this idea that every girl or person could be your partner. Have fun living :D

[@wolfparade5978]

That Is wise. God bless you 😁👍

[@GREYGHOUL13]

I totally forgot about this guy but when i saw his face in the thumbnail it just all started coming back to me.

[@radandpaisley]

"I work out and talk to girls, Leafy doesn't do either of these things" by the gods he actually got him there lol

[@A_Ducky]

I can't believe we're now having to explain who leafy is. There was a time not so long ago when no one needed that explained.

[@radandpaisley]

@@A_Ducky for better and worse lol

[@A_Ducky]

@@radandpaisley Exactly. I wasn't his demographic but it was like watching a dumpster fire, can't look away mom... And then somehow I recognize a bunch of random people years later, lol. Heeey, Leafy did have at least some purpose.

[@DragnYT]

even tho zazef is Russian EDP he had a point bruh. all leafy did was clown on kids and he didn't have time to be social n stuff 💀

[@zimkollingz3263]

How is that a "got him"? If anything it shows insecurity from the speaker. He needs to work out and talk to girls to feel good. It's codependency and it's insecure.

[@tweakfinals173]

“I got hug by a girl” One small step for zazef, one huge leap for incel-kind

[@kentuckyfriedpigeon]

hilarious

[@user-ty6we2sp2m]

He really doesn't look bad. He's just forcefully ruined everything

[@zackharris8373]

27, have only had 2 girlfriends and currently spend a load of time on my own. I am happy, content with this and although loneliness can sometimes make me unhappy I really don't let it get to me. It's sad that young guys have obsessions over being virgins, or not having girlfriends. I get it can be tough, and you probably find yourselves comparing yourself to others and spend a lot of time feeling bitter about other couples, like Elliot Roger did, but the fact it drives some dudes crazy or makes them take risks is sad and really never worth it. I guess other mental issues can play into it, but my advice to anyone who maybe hasn't had loads of girlfriends or never had one, it's one thing out of many things that make life seem good but honestly it's literally not the end of the world. The moment you can be happy being alone and confident in yourself enough to not let it ruin you you've won. Things happen in time, one day you might meet a like minded person who you feel comfortable enough with. Never obsess or force these things, it'll destroy you.

[@michan2006]

Literally this! Thank you!

[@James-iv4ne]

Well said.

[@ivanmatusic5540]

Ditto. I am 30. I let it get into my head last 3-4 yrs that also screwed me up a little as loneliness kills all willpower to deal with other issues. Would´ve been more content now if i had tackled those issues. Just gotta keep heating the mind crucible i guess.

[@Schinzo__]

L life

[@Schinzo__]

@̇ you’ve overstated the word “edge”

[@evgenivasileuski559]

3:57 "she WAS my cousin", bro got exiled from the family

[@floproro4]

Bro lives in Alabama 😭

[@corvideity]

his grandmother forgave him for that LMAO

[@bluetiger2468]

It's always sad to see someone who is 100% convinced they can only be truly happy if they had a girlfriend. What he did was unacceptable and even his videos about talking to women in public are uncomfortable to watch. It's weird how his KZbin channel gave him more confidence to go out and harass women. I hope him getting arrested was the wake up call he needed to start changing his behavior.

[@Johia_Mapping_2]

It wont be.

[@tabernaclejones6115]

He has some wires crossed in his brain that shouldn't be. Same thing with pedophiles. Sexual deviance is a thing and manifests itself in all sort of way.

[@bluetiger2468]

​@@tabernaclejones6115 It really depends. He basically isolated himself and had an audience who encouraged him to go out and harass women. If you surround yourself with people who encourage your bad behavior, it makes it feel less bad. He was so focused on getting a girlfriend that when someone showed him attention, he was able to ignore the age different. Which is very very bad and shows he has some wires crossed in his brain. Him facing real life backlash can wake him up a bit. Some people need to hit rock bottom to realize their problems before trying to improve themselves. But, sometimes when people hit rock bottom, they keep digging down. Basically, only time will tell. If he comes back and keeps making videos of him harassing women in public again then I'll come to the conclusion he learned nothing from this experience. But it has been 4 years since he posted a new video on that channel. His other channel is just him playing games, last video posted 3 months ago. Which makes it seem like he realized what he was doing wasn't good for his mental health.

[@adeer87]

@@tabernaclejones6115 I see your point. But in some cases, like with this guy, I do think therapy and socialization/learning empathy could actually help him. Maybe. It’s hard to say if it will happen, or if it’s possible. But I hope it is.

[@bluetiger2468]

@@JoyGlitter3 I'm not excusing his actions. I literally said what he did was unacceptable. He should be punished. It's a good thing he got caught. Is it a bad thing for me to hope he learned his lesson and never ever do this again? I said it's sad to see someone who is 100% convinced they can only be truly happy if they had a girlfriend because I've seen people actually believing this. You can not rely on a person you haven't met yet for your own happiness. If someone truly believes they need a significant other to come solve their problems and make them happy, their problems will only get worse and worse because they are waiting around for someone else to magically fix their problems. And you can see that with this guy. Now he has two options, continue a downward spiral or change for the better. Only time will tell, but since he stopped making videos of harassing women after his arrest 4 years ago, it shows a change in his behavior.

[@tigerprincess1109]

It’s so sad that he turned out so good looking the older he got and he did what he did. He could’ve gotten a girl.

[@lenxiabuda8338]

He grew from a socially awkward boy to a perverse grown up..

[@ShandoGuardian]

odd how often that happens

[@syrjanen3397]

Perverse chad*

[@Zeagods-CyberShadow]

Yeah its sad to see people turn out like because of lack of guidance and help

[@jonathaningram8157]

Or really desperate.

[@koolkel00]

This kid doesn't need a girlfriend, he needs a quality therapist, 😩

[@Danuxsy]

girlfriends can be both 😍😍

[@LunaKushG]

@@Danuxsy that’s not fair to the girlfriend. Being a therapist to someone like this needs to be from someone with an education, won’t take shit personal, and can’t take it home with them.

[@ericMT]

Male therapist

[@Danuxsy]

@@LunaKushG I'm surprised this is coming from a hippy

[@LunaKushG]

@@ericMT that’s a very very good point

[@Tsochar]

Zazef: "I never sexually harassed anyone... I respect women" Also Zazef: "Mind if I squirtle over your jigglypuffs?"

[@joltjolt5060]

That's Pokemon.

[@donnadelrey]

@@joltjolt5060 no shit sherlock don’t pretend you don’t know what he’s insinuating

[@goblez5900]

It's a smosh meme that was popular back in the late 2000s early 2010s

[@commentresurrection1841]

@@goblez5900 Thats the thing about memes....they come and go so fast nobody will ever remember them 10 years from now....

[@セピラ]

@@commentresurrection1841 pretty sure you can still tell from the context though, dont need to know the meme

[@TBGmario]

Zazef looks like a damn model in that mugshot

[@milkyoni]

He got the Jeffrey Dahmer treatment

[@LadyAstarionAncunin]

@@milkyoni And Dahmer wasn't attractive either. Nor was Bundy. (I notice the fact that Bundy ate people too is always downplayed/not even mentioned or known because he's the poster boy for "handsome" serial ki/lers.) All three are basic AF. Thirsty people love grading on a curve.

[@brimstonesulfur5013]

Even more so in his new mugshot

[@keepitfuknmetal]

I feel like as more people became aware of what “incels” are really like, it becomes a “hindsight is 20/20” thing on this guy. At least for the men, women could look at this dude a mile away and see how creepy and weird he was. The bottom line is exactly as you said, this is a dude who needed serious mental help and guidance. Instead he got a pool of KZbin commenters egging him on and encouraging his creepy behavior for their entertainment.

[@KB-hh9di]

Exactly what I was thinking. Even the videos he said were "memes" and shit, it was just really off from the get go. Like it was never funny..saying you got to hug your hot cousin? Thats a sign of someone thats messed up

[@strayiggytv]

Yeah, it's sad how many people in the comments are suggesting if he just got a girlfriend he'd have been ok but frankly I don't think so. Just eating someone won't magically fix all your mental problems and chances are he'd have been pretty crappy to any girl he dated.

[@keepitfuknmetal]

@@strayiggytv definitely, dude has woman abuser written all over him. I mean, he was a predator after all. Bottom line is dude needed serious mental help. I don’t know if it really would’ve “helped” him but it definitely wouldn’t done a lot better for him than a crowd of strangers on the internet giving him insane amounts of attention for his shitty behavior and obvious ill-will towards women.

[@Cheetahlover]

How can they tell he's creepy? What about him says that

[@keepitfuknmetal]

@@Cheetahlover what part of going up to random women on the streets and saying “can I squirtle on your jigglypuffs” is creepy? You really need to ask that?

[@RoxasMeatloaf]

My sister actually somewhat befriended him and they used to play Pokémon with each other online all the time. They were even on voice chat sometimes but the strangest thing is that he never really was weird or creepy to her? I was even friends with him on PSN. That’s why my sister and I were convinced he was just trolling this whole time… we were really shocked to see what happened to him

[@KoalaTContent]

Maybe if you/your sister lived far from him he knew he was never getting inside her so he didn't bother trying

[@Tw0Dots]

@@KoalaTContent right why waste the time lmao

[@larsonfamilyhouse]

He’s like the one guy actually meeting up with a 13 year old to talk lol :/

[@killallbtsfans2990]

And my dad works for xbox lmao

[@Welp503]

@@Tw0Dots adding lmao at the end of your comment doesn’t make it funny. Child.

[@barneyfalafelscanadian7369]

How he went from looking like this 🤓 to looking like an absolute chad is beyond me

[@Abandoned_Account88]

He fr had a glow up

[@Technotranceism]

It's called change. Contacts or laser correction, instead of glasses. Nice hairdo, proper skin care, puberty changes to appearance, getting fit thru working out, etc. Many people have referred to it as, the ugly duckling syndrome.

[@ahall9839]

@@Technotranceism Wow, can you explain more things that changed? I didn't know that getting a haircut was a change, and that it made people look different. This is so interesting! What does "getting fit thru working out" mean? Does that mean you work out, and then get fit? Does that make someone look better? Is that considered "change"? Gosh, I'm so intrigued!

[@Funeral_Mannequin]

🤓➡️🗿

[@marinablack181]

Uhh puberty lol

[@SubjectDelta20]

"She was pretty hot, I might add. 😉" "She's my cousin." Lmao

[@JermStone]

His parents failed him. Leaving him in his room for hours and never getting him mental help.

[@atomic1689]

The way this guy talked as a kid and an adult gave me the impression he had some kind of undiagnosed issue.

[@christinama839]

It seemed like he did a video on autism so I think it’s likely he’s on the spectrum based on the way he spoke and his mannerisms

[@breohtbrusmid489]

If you rewatch you will notice he has faved videos about autism on his channel, suggesting he knew himself what was the issue with him. He just hadn't been formally diagnosed and so isn't getting the help he needs.

[@goldengod31]

Exactly his parent failed him. The more disgusting people are the ones that egged him on his subscribers and commentors.

[@ihno45]

Yes, autism, it's obvious.

[@1415gatewayable]

Probably antisocial personality disorder

[@jaysvideos9107]

Imagine the cousin watching the "I got hugged by a girl" video.

[@styleasylum4633]

I remember seeing this guy on cringe compilations when I was in middle school. I felt bad for him cuz I thought he was misunderstood, and just an socially awkward guy. I was too at the time so I felt for him in that sense. Same time, I got a weird vibe from him. The video I very much remember is the one where he talks about how much p*rn he watches and how he skipped school just to watch it. Even at a young age, I thought it was too much. I then thought it was just some boy thing that I didn't understand.

[@PlasticDoll.]

I just want to say that not having social skills, being a shut in, never having a gf/bf or being awkward does not make someone a creep in any way. it's all about personality. someone can be any of those and still be right in the head, it's probably all about past experiences and how it affected the person and their reaction to it. all that obsession about wanting a gf is fine until you cross the line, which he did in his "pick up lines" that border harassment + coming off as a creep and im sure many other things. his fanbase finding it funny or entertaining probably encouraged that behaviour further.

[@怠惰な耳の長いフクロウ]

Exactly!

[@HusbandofLois]

The reverse is also true, someone can be none of those things but still be a creep

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Lack of social skills means these people don't even understand they're creeps, or if they do understand they don't think there's any other possibility so they do it anyway

[@PlasticDoll.]

@@thewhitefalcon8539 that's actually true.. I didn't think of it like that. I just meant most ppl after COVID spent times home and especially these times alot of ppl are home + introverts. I just think there are all kinds of ppl.. I think there might definitely be a turning point in life where their personality builds up just becoming a creep

[@Jaggededge112]

How about meeting with a minor to have s3x with them? Does that make you a creep? Sure wanting a girlfriend is normal, but harassing women makes him a creep, trying to meet up with a young teen makes you a creep. I think he knew exactly what he was doing, don’t try to paint autism as an excuse for any of his behavior, I know plenty and they don’t behave like that.

[@loulou3676]

NGL, as a woman watching this at no point did I feel "root for the underdog, poor nerd just wants a girlfriend" vibes. The *entire* time I had "this is a s*x offender in the making" vibes from this dude.

[@helloitsduck]

Exactly

[@midnightartist43]

It slowly went from “wow this kid needs friends” to “UH OH-“ I ever got the underdog feels

[@nyud]

That's what happens to ugly guys. No looks, no life.

[@bigfatchumster3321]

​@Witten Then I wish these "normal" lenses were the women lenses that you're trying to say they are, because as a guy I see this in the same way this girl does and I wish more people did

[@ThanosIsUglyGD]

As a guy, I agree 100%. Idk what the guy in the video is smoking, but I completely disagree with his "nerd" statement. It seems a lot of other guys are rooting for him as well. Man needs a therapist, then I'll think about it lol

[@metapuns9004]

The fact he was "pranking" women with children is so fucking gross to me 🤢

[@sinterm6950]

ok

[@iknowyou-daily5229]

ok

[@TheMarshmelloSquid]

ok

[@ispendtoomuchtimeonherehow9562]

ok

[@Pawning]

Literally, I mean, that is really messed up. The woman with the little girl next to her looks old enough to be her mother, or at least older sister. And did you see the way the little girl backed up from him?

[@JustCliff]

What most people fail to realize about autism is that for a lot of people on the spectrum there is a lack of social awareness and the intention doesn't come from a bad place. What does harm is when people think these kinds of videos are jokes but, instead are literal. Alot of people with ASD have obsessions over niche things like gaming or math, for this individual it was sadly aquiring a girlfriend which led to negative social interactions. Note- asd is a spectrum, everyone has different needs and traits.

[@Pragabond]

The wild part is even if he managed to be a decent dude and get a girl without being creepy I'm SURE she would at some point know about his youtube and then see how disgusting he is with women. This man just did everything in his power to never get laid.

[@davidyoung8769]

Im jealous of your name...

[@Pragabond]

@@davidyoung8769 You too can make a name like mine. Become part of the McDougalton clan.

[@mchevre]

This is a prime example that proves that incel ideology about everything revolving around looks is simply bullshit. This guy started as a goofy looking kid but later became actually very attractive with a straight up chad-like facial structure. In his mugshot he basically looked like a male model. If he worked out and wasn't so skinny I wouldn't be surprised if some women shown pics of him might even rate him a 9 or 10 out of 10. But of course, his personality was so creepy and off-putting that once women interacted with him, they'd be very unlikely to perceive him as attractive. Similarly, a dude can be definitely less than average in looks, but with the right personality women may actually be very attracted to him.

[@HusbandofLois]

Part of it because if people make you feel a certain way about yourself, it sticks around in your mind when you stop being a goofy kid and start being regularly attractive. All it takes is a little real self awareness and you can sort that one out

[@espositolne]

early life pain is hard to erase. There is also body dysmorphic disorder.Or highly attentive to detail, and obsessed with small flaws.

[@zaer-ezart]

Thing is, not everyone grow up into a model. I was ugly before and I'm still ugly now

[@espositolne]

@@zaer-ezart I find most people who say they're ugly are rarely actually that. I'm skeptical.

[@zaer-ezart]

@@espositolne Well a girl actually came to my desk while we were in class, looked me straight in the eyes and said for no reason "Damn you're so fucking ugly". So there's that

[@mrlearningscholar4078]

He actually looks good when he got older. He just needed to be respectful and patient.

[@drakashrakenburgproduction5369]

And not prey on children?

[@TK_713]

@@drakashrakenburgproduction5369 I was about to say this

[@mrlearningscholar4078]

@@drakashrakenburgproduction5369 ya lol also he was a creep

[@A_Ducky]

He seems to never have grown up past the 3rd grade age, in a sense he still considers that behavior to be normal, grown-ups behavior.

[@yungcunt1717]

aint about looks dude is just weird completely

[@dr.cheetahshow7277]

As a boy with autism who thought he couldn’t get girls. It’s guys like this that make me feel so much better about myself

[@SamEsss]

Oh my godddd! I remember his original “I hugged a girl today” video. I remember me and my friends sending it to each other & absolutely dying of laughter and secondhand embarrassment. Especially because it was his cousin. I had no idea he ended up being a sex offender, but I’m not surprised. He was the OG non-murdering Elliot Rogers. He ended up being not as ugly as I imagined as an adult, but you can’t grow out of being a creepy incel.

[@uwumarii]

Lmao non murdering Elliot Rogers. Tbh he's passable in that mugshot picture and its he's mindset towards women as sex objects and his desperation to have a gf is what's unattractive about him. Any girl who gets to talk to him would immediately get creepy vibes and dips

[@the-based-jew6872]

@@uwumarii passable? Haha he is like a Chad-lite. But maybe it was the lighting haha. But then again once women have tasted Chad, they don't want anything below, until they can't get any better and settle for an average man hehe. Polygamy of Chad is the future 🔮

[@DimitriTacoEater]

Maybe with some therapy? If not, to the woodchipper he should go.

[@andrew_gould]

dude had a serious glow-up and is a genuinely attractive guy now. if he stayed on the right path, he would have definitely gotten a girlfriend. what a shame. hopefully he learns his lesson and can make something out of himself and the situation he finds himself in. 😔

[@tylociraptor8131]

right? I was like shit.... if the dude wasn't super creepy, and learned some social skills, he'd have a really good chance.

[@shanestangle7322]

Dude just needed a genuine friend or a mentor to actually teach him how to act right and his whole life would have turned out different.... damn shame.

[@infernaldaedra]

Yeah no. Being a creepy shit is not attractive.

[@VektorEpsilon]

I've learned from personal experience, looks mean very little to a point, even as a more shallow kid. Case is point, I was bullied hard as a kid/teen (10-20) To the point I moved multiple schools, and eventually dropped out. Girls didn't even want to be near me, much less talk to me. It's totally killed my self esteem, even as an adult. But I, 35 years old now, look at my old pictures and I looked good. I don't usually toot my own horn, but I was a stud when I was younger. My issue was my personality...or rather, my lack of. I didn't have a girlfriend until I was 19, at the point where I stopped caring about dressing to impress. He was a good looking dude even at his most cringe. His looks weren't what scared girls off.

[@blengdiabloed7335]

@@tylociraptor8131 so easy to say this. maybe you need to go to japan and teach a lot of shutins some social skill then

[@-blaire-]

He's actually a pretty good-looking guy, by his mugshot alone I would've guessed he'd be another douchetuber rather than an incel. If he'd just try to talk to girls properly (and probably people in general) he might've found a gf pretty easily

[@dunno4108]

He probably had some kind of social anxiety, maybe. Maybe I'm just projecting idk

[@euclodies1719]

Sauce pfp?

[@StrawhatDawn]

The pfp is Orihime Inoue from the manga bleach by tite kubo ;)

[@kevindube7096]

yooooo his bone structure was (probably still is) some top-shelf quality bones. Like people get plastic surgery to get them bones. He took care of himself, he had a badass accent. A lot of people get plastic surgery to get that accent. Really a shame how much he had going for him if he wasn’t just missing one important quality: not being a creep

[@Just_A_Guy_Here.]

I'm your 200th liker here & bye.

[@Potatoe-f6u]

It's extra creepy that a lot of the women he was harassing in his videos were mothers who had their kids with them.

[@talyahr3302]

Good point 😳

[@professional.commentator]

He's in jail again. And this time I think he's done for good. They set his bail somewhere between $50k and $50 million. Rip Zazef.

[@FrenkTheJoy]

It's sad, he's actually pretty good-looking. If he just stopped being creepy and obnoxious as fuck, girls might have given him a chance.

[@SHNASTTV]

My take is that he lacked EQ. His Emotional Intelligence was not fit to deal with social situations. I wouldn't be surprised to find out he's actually on the spectrum. He didn't understand how to modulate his own voice correctly either. It was as if English wasn't his first language. These could all be real factors. What he needed was some early detection, early treatment, and some real friends. Even 1 real friend could have given him some guidance, tough love, or a role model to follow. I would guess that he didn't have a proper male role model, no siblings, and pretty much isolated his whole childhood without a lot of positive interaction with his mother. This is all conjecture of course. But that's my take.

[@SgtHawk13]

Oh so if someone’s ugly it isn’t sad eh

[@twntyonechemicalpilots9559]

It’s not sad, he’s a horrible person and deserved what he got. Y’all gotta stop making excuses for people

[@mattleblanc7417]

That’s what happens to people when they become anti social all their lives.

[@rdred8693]

Very true. Looks are not everything. I'd rather date someone not so great looking, but with a zippy personality, then some great looking, but weird dude.

[@SMPKarma]

I teach special needs children (mainly mild autism and ADHD), and him being on the spectrum immediately sprang to mind. People like that can have a hard time communicating "normally" and will feel extreme frustration because they are rejected and not accepted in regular society. I'm not saying this excuses the actions that landed him in jail, I'm just saying that I feel like this could have been prevented if a trained professional tried to help him. His mannerisms etc remind me of quite a few of my students and knowing that they are, for the most part, good people, but misunderstood and shunned, it's sad.

[@alfsleftnut9224]

Yeah, I think you're right and I kinda see a path that lead him to this. 1) He was rejected by people around him and didn't have friends meaning he was socially isolated and became desperate for attention 2) He was so socially isolated, getting a hug from someone was a big enough life event for him that he posted 3) Said video goes viral, leading him to receiving a lot of attention 4) In his mind, the weird way he acted is the only way he can get attention so he keeps up the act. Its a weird positive feedback loop

[@SMPKarma]

@@alfsleftnut9224 I agree, there was definitely a positive feedback loop of that sort. It's just sad that someone who possibly simply needed professional help was led down this path... and ended up like that. I may be biased but I do feel sorry for him

[@GavsterGaime]

As someone on the spectrum myself, I can definitely see this having happened. The feedback loop thing especially. The way our brains are wired makes this kind of attention very addicting, almost like a gambling kind of way. "Maybe this next video will make a girl magically interested in me, even though experience tells me otherwise". You know the odds are rigged against you. You know your actions are unhealthy and hurting you. But you can't stop because of that very tiny miniscule glimmer of a chance it might work out. It's heartbreaking to see play out like this. I'm so thankful to my parents for getting me the therapy I needed as a kid to recognize this kind of behavior in myself before it's too late. I could have ended up just like this guy.

[@kriswhite9324]

@@SMPKarma I 100% agree with you like I have ADHD and Autism so I have a very hard time connecting, relating and communicating with people but I'm glad my mum got me diagnosed as I could of ended up like this guy in the video its quite a sad story for him as he will have to live with being a child predator for the rest of his life and life will be so harc for him and I'm especially angry at the parents for not recognising this and seek help it just goes to show that ADHD, Autism and the spectrum in general is not thought upon enough in todays society which makes me sick and sad at the same time 😞😞

[@jaycee2070]

​@@kriswhite9324 oh no, poor him. He twas a pedo and now he has to live with the label of pedo for his whole life. "Poor him because he has the same broken brain as me." Does autism make you sympathize with pedos or does being a pedo with autism make you sympathize with pedos?

[@henrikhumle7255]

I kind of disagree with the conclusion to this video. Sure, it started out kind of innocuous and weird, with a young guy who probably shouldn't have been on a platform like this without oversight, but he then made a career out of sexually harassing women for views, and ultimately turned into a real predator, who would have done something *really f'king bad* if law enforcement hadn't intervened. I hope he gets the help he needs, but this, overall, speaks to a larger problem of vulnerable people and inadequate protections on social media.