Cheap and Easy Tire Rub Fix on a Jeep JL Wrangler or JT Gladiator when Making a Full Turn

[@thatdude7587]

I started watching your videos after buying my 2023 jeep JL but I have to say the end had to be my absolute favorite part 😅

[@wayalife]

LOL - awesome

[@jeffdurall8353]

Just bought a 2021 Jeep Wrangler Sport 2 door and putting on 33" tires next week. Glad I found this video. You do a fantastic job explaining things to us "noobs".

[@wayalife]

Really happy to hear that our videos are helpful to you 😎

[@TORRIE_B]

I don’t know hardly anything about vehicles but man you make this stuff look super easy!

[@wayalife]

Well, I have been doing this for a very very long time. 😎

[@n3tfury]

Don't have a JL or JT, but a JK, and still love watching this stuff and learned something new. Also, let's not gloss over the way he always presents not just the fix, but what is actually going on to cause the issue AND he goes over other options (wheels, spacers) and then shows us a extreme budget solution. Love this shit.

[@wayalife]

Thank you. We're truly humbled and happy to hear you can appreciate our videos. 😊

[@krasnaludek298]

I’ve owned Jeeps for over 20 years & never knew this. Spectacular! 👍🏻

[@wayalife]

Glad we could teach you something new, even if it's just a small thing 👍

[@terryderush2657]

It's the simple thing that matters most. Learn something new all the time Thanks 👍

[@wayalife]

Awesome! Glad we could be of help 👍

[@utahyork3338]

Ripley reminds me of the dog (Chaser?) that could remember lots of toys. These pups are smart. Now on the Jeep fix - So glad you tried the easy cheap fix. So many would by spacers, new wheels, different sway bar,... Another quality video.

[@wayalife]

Chase and yes, she's that crazy smart! Glad you enjoyed our video 😎

[@Vggincidently]

Thank You for a refreshing to the point video and a Doggie Show! Love it!

[@y2vikram]

That’s really good tip…I will try this on my rubicon tomorrow

[@wayalife]

Awesome 😎

[@boldrbangr9834]

Love those simple fixes............and Ripley! 😄

[@wayalife]

Glad you could appreciate this and that you enjoyed seeing Ripley 😎

[@LuisGGomezPhoto]

I am amazed the way your doggie understands everything, and so playful. Love it. Thanks.

[@wayalife]

Thank you very much!

[@everydayjeeper6583]

Those are one of the smartest dogs on the planet! So awesome!!

[@wayalife]

Oh yeah, Border Collies are crazy smart. They'll destroy your home too if you don't keep them working too LOL

[@CN-rz3ez]

Ripley is just adorable. Thank you for sharing. And the helpful Jeep tip lol lol. Happy Easter.

[@wayalife]

LOL - thank you. Glad you enjoyed seeing Ripley and our Jeep tip 😁

[@stuartwilson5634]

Ridley is brilliant, what a beautiful and intelligent dog

[@wayalife]

Thank you. She really is crazy smart and we love her 😎

[@brianpatrickcork4513]

Brilliant. It's the little details that more often have the biggest results.

[@wayalife]

Well said and glad you enjoyed our video 😎

[@desertfox3860]

I used to love that game with my dogs! It was fun to watch Ripley do it! The jeep stuff was also cool.

[@wayalife]

LOL - so glad you enjoyed our video 😎

[@iLibertyWoman]

I'm so glad I found your channel! You explain things well. I've just got a 24 Jeep Wrangler Sahara and the first thing I wanna do is chnage the tires but I dunno which tires would be good for city driving (I will use it mostly like Cindy would) but occasional mild trailing (Colorado life) up in the mountains. You explain things brilliantly and very entertaining. Thank you so much. I need to save up for the tires. I spent mjajor bucks for my new ride and did not finance.NEW SUBBIE here.

[@wayalife]

Really happy to hear you enjoy our videos and find it to be informative. Regarding tires and how you intend to use them and being that you live in an area that gets snow, I would recommend Nitto Terra Grappler G3 www.nittotire.com/light-truck-tires/terra-grappler-g3-all-terrain-light-truck-tire/ These are a great all terrain tire and have a true snow/ice rating.

[@SlightlyLessFat]

Ain't noting better than a seriously free fix!

[@wayalife]

That’s what I’m sayin 👍🏻

[@Chajanmun]

That was incredible. Oh the washer trick is pretty cool too.

[@wayalife]

LOL - glad you enjoyed seeing both 😁

[@lundysgarage]

your dog is an amazing genius

[@wayalife]

Thank you. Ripley is really smart! 😎

[@stevestarks77]

Eddi I’m a big fan of your videos I’m from mexico and I be learning a lot from you thanks for share all your knowledge

[@wayalife]

Awesome! Glad to hear that our videos are helpful to you 👍

[@garylgoldberg]

Didn't know about the steer stop bolts. Useful! Thanks.

[@wayalife]

Awesome! Glad we could share this with you 👍

[@davidp2968]

Great video ,just what I need when I first replied to your video I thought you were making the adjustments from the front of tire . Then I see it from the back of the tire . I’ve have done it used 2 washers seems too have helped. Thank you for all the info you give .

[@wayalife]

Glad it helped

[@randyroy3163]

Thanks for the information on the steer stop

[@wayalife]

Glad I could be of help :)

[@samsammy6210]

Did the basically the same in 1996 Tacoma to the 96 Tacoma. Although the stops are in different locations. Good fix . So far haven’t had that problem with 2 door 2021 same tires Wrangle Willys edition. Like your videos ! Thanx .

[@wayalife]

Awesome! Glad you enjoyed the video :)

[@thomasleahy3767]

The end is the best!

[@wayalife]

LOL - glad you stuck around to the end and liked what you saw 😎

[@GreatOutdoorAdventure]

Ruby is smart just like our Bella Boo who is a female Borador. Part Border Colie, part Labrador. They go nuts for water, so can't was a vehicle with her outside lol. Great fix video.

[@dennisr7452]

You once again provided a fix with a simple solution. This video will probably save people time and money. Thanks for posting. 👍 My wife enjoys your videos but is disappointed when you don’t have a Ripley segment.

[@wayalife]

LOL - we'll try harder to include Ripley in all our videos 😎

[@dennisr7452]

@@wayalife my wife says thank you. 😊

[@Tail_Dragger]

You guys have consistently been in my top 3 YT since 2018! Keep up the great videos!

[@wayalife]

Thank you, we're happy to hear it. 😎

[@Mck499]

This is the only channel I have notifications on for. Always awesome when I see the notification 😅 Awesome video! Love seeing pippy. I'm more of a 2 door person 😆

[@wayalife]

Cindy and I are truly flattered that you would say as much. We're humbled that you would say as much. Thank you.

[@Mck499]

@@wayalife No problem! Thanks for great videos!

[@ToddKirst]

Wow! Such a simple Fix! Just Brilliant!

[@wayalife]

Glad you found our video and this simple fix to be helpful 😎

[@fm71450]

Wow, great video - as usual!

[@wayalife]

Glad you enjoyed it! 😎

[@Jaggbrony]

Thanks for the pawsome dog content! Ripley is a cutie and very smart..... Oh and jeep content too! Pippy looks good.

[@wayalife]

LOL - glad you enjoyed seeing Ripley and the Jeep stuff 😁

[@BBossman1]

Always good to see Ripley... oh, and the Jeep content as well. : )

[@wayalife]

LOL - awesome :)

[@charlesmayo6285]

Pippy is one front locker away from being a Rubicon sport. I love how your building her using stock parts but still making her look awesome.

[@wayalife]

LOL - glad you enjoy what we're doing with Pippi.

[@Frostytravels]

That was a great tip man. Thanks for that for sure. I like the simple things.....and love the dog.

[@wayalife]

Awesome! Glad you found our video to be helpful and that you like Ripley too :)

[@Frostytravels]

@@wayalife yw. Great channel

[@furious7515]

Great DIY fix-it tip! You rock Eddie!

[@wayalife]

Thank you. So glad you found our video to be helpful 😎

[@bellyisis]

Great lesson & Ripley skills.My kitty knew his toys names & would fetch em when I said their names

[@rickkephartactual7706]

Great job training your faithful companion

[@wayalife]

Thank you. 😎

[@charlesnickell7257]

Thanks for a great video and like always I personally enjoy all your videos thank you

[@wayalife]

Thank you. We really do appreciate it and we're so glad to know you enjoy our videos 😎

[@johngrant1337]

Great info on jeep It was great to see how well the dog had your husband trained

[@wayalife]

LOL - Glad you enjoyed our video and Ripley 😁

[@eda7875]

brilliantly simple

[@wayalife]

Glad you found our video to be helpful.

[@carlabbott5693]

Awesome , your videos 📹 are always great. Loved the ending! 🐕

[@wayalife]

LOL - Glad you enjoyed it 👍

[@rodrigorojas4212]

Saludos desde Chile amigos....🇨🇱

[@user-xb2pk4lt9b]

Love your dog!

[@wayalife]

LOL - thank you :)

[@Christarpher]

Not only will the axle shift but because the front end is lower, the wheel can reach further in at the pivot point of the sway bar arm. Good video!

[@wayalife]

Glad you enjoyed our video.

[@richardroyster2749]

Thanks ! Awesome video

[@wayalife]

Glad you could appreciate it 😎

[@DH-gp3gp]

I can't get my dog to do anything, so that is an amazing accomplishment from my perspective.

[@wayalife]

LOL - glad you enjoyed seeing Ripley doing her thing 😎

[@scotteramsey]

6 Inch lift and 40's I think will solve all the problems. Lol!! great videos. Thanks!!

[@wayalife]

LOL - true, it'd solve the slight rubbing at a full turn but we'd most likely have other issues to deal with 🤪

[@jaredsmith1214]

You are the man!!

[@wayalife]

LOL - glad we could be of help :)

[@dad3562]

Yay a video! LoL I’ve been hankering for a video 🤣

[@wayalife]

Glad we could oblige you with a new video.

[@MuddyRuttzz]

Thanks Eddy! Really enjoy your videos. I learn something too. Just bought a Gladiator Rubicon Ecodiesel.

[@thereissomecoolstuff]

Pretty amazing driving. Either you backed off the 2 dark marks or you nailed it with a side mark. Pretty good stuff on the production side.

[@wayalife]

LOL - Glad you enjoyed the video and our efforts to make it 😎

[@manojsaxena9840]

Thank you for info; love the doggie!!

[@wayalife]

Awesome and we're glad you enjoyed seeing Ripley 😎

[@ssnydess6787]

Thanks for the tip. The best solution, though, is to get the correct wheels with the correct offset. I hate the idea of increasing my turn radius and maneuverability. Before installing my front stubby bumper. I found slight rubbing between the bumper filler and the larger 35". Filler removed, problem solved. Thanks for the good tips!

[@wayalife]

These are factory wheels and so they are the correct offset. Installing aftermarket wheels with different offset or less back spacing will move the steering axis inclination and that will adversely affect your scrub radius. They will also move the wheel center line and that will create more leverage and cause your ball joints and unit bearings to wear out prematurely. Clearly, with 35" tires or bigger, there are sacrifices that need to be made to clear components on your Jeep but that doesn't mean they are "correct".

[@alencarlodavid]

Awesome video! Just wondering if it would rub with the stock sport sway bars? 🧐

[@wayalife]

With stock tires, you shouldn't have any issues.

[@TwoFeatherChannel]

that was quick and easy fix

[@wayalife]

Yup, that's all there is to it 😎

[@oscarpatino330]

Beautiful Dog!

[@wayalife]

Thank you very much!

[@offroadyaris5257]

Great tip! So simple!

[@wayalife]

Glad it was helpful!

[@offroadyaris5257]

@@wayalife indeed

[@jpack3438]

Two door, jeep jeep and only in a jeep. Good tip ! (Actually here for the dog)

[@wayalife]

LOL - works for us and Ripley appreciates it 😁

[@swashbuckler5539]

I went with 35x10.50x17 haven’t had any issues so far, along with rubi suspension and sliders on my sport

[@wayalife]

Good to hear.

[@cannonsbbq]

Great video!

[@wayalife]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@peterkunka2694]

Or, go with "pizza cutters" and install LT255/80R-17 (33" x 10.5") tires. I have the Toyo Open Country AT3's on my 2020 Willys on the factory 17" x 7" Moab wheels and they fit perfectly with no rubbing. Love your videos and really enjoy the Pippi series. Just offering info as I build my Jeep along similar lines. Oh, and for those with the automatic transmission, you'll need to have it re-programmed for the taller tires so it shifts properly. And, how smart is Ripley?! Wow! Keep living well, my friend! Pete - KI7LIL

[@manojsaxena9840]

I own a 2021 Willys and would like to follow your install too...

[@clintonwilkie8142]

Good Puppy!!!

[@wayalife]

Glad you enjoyed seeing Ripley :)

[@mikekosar6135]

Nice advice..!!!👍

[@wayalife]

Glad it was helpful!

[@DUNEATV]

Tips and tricks!

[@wayalife]

LOL - glad you liked them :)

[@jasonlockwood5201]

So cool

[@wayalife]

Glad you liked our video :)

[@ajantics]

Brilliant!

[@wayalife]

Thank you

[@Raydawg]

Good tip I like it

[@bobbyg7552]

Great video, thank you . I have a 2023 gladiator Mojave that came with Falken 285/70R17 . I would like to put Falken 315/70R17 12.5” wide. Do you think I would be able to install these without doing any other modifications?

[@wayalife]

Yes, you should be able to on a Mojave.

[@a2r7n6]

Love dogs!

[@wayalife]

LOL - glad you enjoyed seeing Ripley :)

[@stevec9889]

Just about to buy my first Jeep, and trying to decide if I can go with a Sport rather than a Willys, though I would want to upsize the tires. Do I understand correctly that if the sway bar had remained stock as well as the front bumper, there shouldn’t have been any rubbing?

[@wayalife]

To be fair, there was barely even any rubbing with what you see in this video. That said, it really depends on the tire size you run, how wide the tread is, how tall it is and even what brand it is as some are smaller than what is advertised.

[@Dnasty1]

You are lucky your car is so high I have a lowered coupe and i'm trying to diagnose rubbing. To make it even more difficult it only does it when i'm not moving and holding the brake and turning close to or at full lock. I am not sure if it does it while driving because I would never turn that wide while going any significant speed but also it does not make this noise when I put the car in park and turn lock to lock. Only when holding the brake with some weight load on the suspension i'm assuming is causing this issue to present itself.

[@AliAdnan-lf1lv]

U r legend bro 🤙

[@wayalife]

LOL - humbled that you would say as much.

[@davidp2968]

Great video Sir, I see that yours was rubbing in from the front tires and you made adjustments from the front .Mine is rubbing from the back at full turn. Would their be a stop on the back side?

[@wayalife]

Steer stop adjustment will do the same thing for that

[@pedrobarbosadasilvafilho7305]

o baby dog já está grande e inteligente!

[@bootmender]

Love the dog! 👍🤷👍❤️👍🤷👍🤷👍❤️

[@wayalife]

Thank you.

[@lukesworkout2232]

I think I'm doing this 👍

[@wayalife]

Awesome! Glad we could be of help to you.

[@RobertFlipWilson]

Did you have to have TPS reprogrammed???

[@Rushdie01]

Thank you for posting awesome content. Can I please ask if your front tires rub on the coil bucket when you are at full flex with the sway bar disconnected? I’ve just fitted the same size to my sport on stock rims. Thank you.

[@wayalife]

They do not rub at a full flex.

[@rodrigosegura6035]

Excellent videos Eddie , thanks for doing them!!! Quick question , would you do a 2 in mopar lift on pippy? and why? thanks!!!

[@wayalife]

I'd prefer not to. From what I have seen, the Mopar lift yields over 3" of actual lift on a 4-door and that means it'd sit even taller on a 2-door. That'd be a bit much for what we're wanting and a lot more would need to be done to keep her riding nice at that height.

[@rodrigosegura6035]

@@wayalife thanks for the quick and helpful answer Eddie, please don't stop making videos, they're fantastic

[@billveder1071]

Oh he's goooooo'ooooood!

[@68mustangman]

Do you think Pipi would make it through Deer Valley (not in snow of course) ? I did it 2 years ago in my TJ and U would think the climb up the southern end from Hwy 4 would be a challenge on the smaller tires and no locker.

[@wayalife]

You know, it's hard to say for sure but I'd be willing to bet she could make it. Might have to give it a try this summer.

[@68mustangman]

@@wayalife 2 doors certainly make the option of lines more plentiful.

[@Coyote5555]

Oh man you guys 👍👌🏻👌🏻

[@wayalife]

Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@rachelwhite4449]

🐾🐾🐾 sending you my dogs 🤣

[@wayalife]

LOL - always happy to hear you enjoyed seeing Ripley 😎

[@rachelwhite4449]

@@wayalife I do! Miss you and Cindy even more! Hope all is well!

[@aaronpritchett623]

Howdy Eddie ... so this actually happened to me on my 2000 tj BUT THEY WELDED ANOTHER nut to it instead of having a Washer ..anyway I didn't get charged for taking it out

[@wayalife]

Oh, you can still add a washer to the bolt on your TJ. We did this way back in the day. 4x4xplor.com/steerstop.html

[@MPGunther1]

Good tip and good girl

[@wayalife]

Glad you think so!

[@samsiegel9056]

Two questions: 1) Will this reduce turn radius? 2) Does the same fix work on a JK? Much thanks!

[@wayalife]

1. with one washer, not enough to matter or even notice. 2. yes.

[@samsiegel9056]

@@wayalife Took me minutes....I'll have to test it more thoroughly but so far so good!

[@sharonmay6289]

My 2-door Wrangler Sport arrives in a week. I'd like to remain stock except to switch out tires to BFG K02s, preferably the 285/70r17 size. Did you change the control arms in Pippi when you added your 285/70s? Is that necessary to keep factory alignment? Also, how much were your mileage and acceleration affected by the added size and weight?

[@wayalife]

Jeep uses the same control arms even with 2" of lift and 35" tires as you will find on an XR package. So no, I did not change them out and there is no need to. Tire size will NOT affect alignment. Power loss was minimal and if you are getting your Jeep with an automatic, it will be negligible. I would recommend that you recalibrate your speedometer with something like a Jscan though.

[@sharonmay6289]

@@wayalife Thanks for your answer. My new Jeep Sport will be a manual transmission. How much will my mpg be diminished by the 285/70 tires?

[@wayalife]

@@sharonmay6289 It really depends on the type of tread your tires will have than size. An aggressive mud terrain will have more rolling resistance than an all terrain and they will hurt your fuel economy more. Otherwise, not too much.

[@sharonmay6289]

@@wayalife Thanks, that's good to know. I plan on putting on BFG K02s. The 255/75 weighs 46 lbs, and the 285/70 weighs 51 lbs. I'm using the stock wheels. These tires compare to the OEM at 32 lbs, so I worry about adding 19 lbs. at each corner.

[@kriptnite75]

Would you not do this on both sides? The wheels are tied together wouldn’t that put a slight strain on something

[@kriptnite75]

Shouldn’t the stops both touch at the same time at full lock

[@wayalife]

Umm, yes, the tie rod connects both sides and that is the exact reason why only ONE steer stop would touch at a full lock. As far as some kind of 'strain' goes, I have no idea what you might be imagining. Sorry.

[@Wrangler59]

Is there a lift on this Jeep? And what size tires? I'm going to use my stock Jeep wheels with 305/70r17 tires and add a 2 inch lift. I'm hoping I don't have any rubbing issues and I'll never trust wheel spacers.

[@wayalife]

No lift on this Sport. We are running 285/70R17 tires.

[@Wrangler59]

@@wayalife are you using wheel spacers???

[@wayalife]

@@Wrangler59 If you watch this video, you will see that the whole point of it is to show how to fix a minor rub WITHOUT wheel spacers.

[@saunders248]

I also think the Nittos could be a bit larger for the same size compared to the KO2s that come on the rubicons. Not all 285/70r17s are the same.

[@wayalife]

You are correct, not all measure the same and these are a bit bigger. Also, after making this video, we measured both the JL and JK sway bars and found that the JK ones are actually wider at the bend. So, that is a factor as well.

[@ericpalmares6346]

hello new here, is two washers a big difference in turning diameter?

[@wayalife]

No. Just enough to stop the slight rubbing we were seeing in specific situations. Anything more and you would start to see a slight difference in turning.

[@williammccaslin8527]

Do's adding the washer cut down your turning radius, or is it neglible by only a few degrees, thx

[@wayalife]

With just the one washer, it's negligible.

[@Tfam305]

Does this need to be done on both sides or just the rubbing side? I’ve always had rubbing in the same location on my Jk only on the passenger side

[@wayalife]

If you watch to the end of the video, you'll hear me say that IF I had rubbing on the other side, I would have installed a washer there. As in, you just need to adjust for the rubbing side.

[@noepascual3610]

Will this work for a JK?

[@wayalife]

Yes, it will.

[@noepascual3610]

Thank you! I Just put it on and hopefully it’ll prevent some rubbing. Love your content by the way! :)

[@noevqz007]

Do you think 33" will rub with the stock sway bar?

[@wayalife]

Depends on the tire and what wheels you're running.

[@yayabamba4053]

Isn't doing that reduce the turning ratio? Maybe adjusting the track bar will help not sure

[@wayalife]

Not anywhere near enough for me to see or feel a difference. A factory track bar cannot be adjusted.

[@yayabamba4053]

@@wayalife good to know and keep up with the great videos, always learning from you.

[@Loss8131]

i wonder if the 06 TJ has the same thing so i can run 33s

[@wayalife]

The TJ has steer stops just like this and you can adjust them in the same way.

[@Loss8131]

Cool thank you! but doesnt the 33s rubb on the fender when going off roading? @@wayalife

[@wayalife]

@@Loss8131 You need to run at least 3" of lift for a TJ to clear 33's

[@Loss8131]

Ahh ok what is the max tire size a stock TJ can have?@@wayalife

[@wayalife]

@@Loss8131 The biggest tire that came on a standard TJ from the factory was 30". The Rubicon came with 31" tires but typically, you'd need at least a 1.75" coil spacer lift to clear them at a full flex. Anything bigger and you would really want to run wheel spacers or new wheels with less back spacing to prevent rubbing at a full turn.

[@Smouse168]

Does this make your turning radius worse?

[@wayalife]

Technically speaking, it will reduce it but just by a hair.

[@chillis28]

👍👍