WDW News Today says DFB Guide is unethical and all Disney Vloggers hate each other.

[@IAmAlwaysJohn]

I'm just saying. Imagine spending 5k plus on a vacation for your family once in your life and sitting next to some person with their camera out talking through every ride instead of allowing you to enjoy the ride. Id be kinda mad.

[@kevinfraser7815]

For all the assumed bluster/arrogance you may perceive from Tom on WDWNT, I’m here to tell you from personal experience that he is a genuinely kind and amiable guy. I had the pleasure of running into him at Disney Springs during the holiday season of 2022 and he surprisingly took quite a while to stand and speak with me about our shared passion. I think when you hear him speak on KZbin, he is speaking out of passion, but also frustration for some of Disney’s mis-steps over the years… With a lot of historical reference, he’s able to seamlessly explain why Disney once was a great, and it has seemed to falter in recent years. Converging with him in person was one of the highlights of my trip.

[@tanyaosterman]

I agree with him that Disney is not great as it once was. They have lost their customer service center.

[@harleyxxx5364]

He is a jerk to his fans

[@antonius8628]

I get it man, but the amount of negativity he spews towards AJ’s success just reeks of jealousy and insecurity

[@tml1996]

@@harleyxxx5364lmao. He has always been nice.

[@Idreallyrathernotthanks]

Yeahhhh....AJ doesn't deserve that. Uncool.

[@lindadoesvancouver]

My gosh you lost me at Tim Tracker is good park content! He just eats and gives the wrong information.

[@THE8COUNTBOXINGHOUR]

Where does Lou Mongello fit into the Disney Fan Community scene these days? I remember when "The Podfather" was KING. Do you think he is still relevant?

[@amyabrey2504]

He only called out some vloggers that sell out. He mentioned that DFB throws food away, sometimes without actually trying it. He said Molly is a professional, which I respect.

[@jeanie9139]

Molly is very knowledgeable, but she throws her politics out there, which she never did with all ears.

[@abrg2323]

Former cast member- I have a disdain for most vloggers.. not all, but most. They often felt entitled to cast member information and could come accross as arrogant when making requests almost as if we were servants. I did have positive interactions with some vloggers but mostly it was obnoxious.

[@MainStreetMoments]

Interesting… how do you feel about the live streamers?

[@abrg2323]

@@MainStreetMoments aging myself lol but that was more popular after I left the company.

[@MainStreetMoments]

Ah old School I love it

[@kaitlinrogan5396]

This episode was pure gold. WDWNT is my go to for Disney news. I enjoy Tom’s delivery and his take on everything. It’s clear he cares. LOVE Mickey Views but see that as a completely different show. I think his competition on the news front is DFB and the channel formerly know as DisUnplugged.

[@MainStreetMoments]

Thank you 🙏

[@kevinfraser7815]

I love Tom and love WDWNT. They keep it real and grounded

[@GetAwayGalAdventures]

Guys. It’s Trader Sam’s… Trader Joes is a grocery store

[@MainStreetMoments]

Yeah we know…sometimes people misspeak it’s okay :)

[@michaelleblanc7974]

WDWNT is an excellent source for WDW information. I personally think that Tom and his crew are excellent in what they do. They never said they “hated” anyone. There are too many terrible WDW bloggers out there today. And some of the ones at the top of the heap in subscribers are among the worst. Tom’s an honest guy and tells it like it is. If people can’t handle the truth, then they shouldn’t listen. Let them listen to crap like Jojo’s World…

[@pap64]

As for the Disney Vloggers thing; yeah, I will agree there are too many of them at this point, and it is more about the personality and less about the actual Theme Park experience. My gripe with them is when they make one video saying how Disney is on a downfall, that Disney needs to change, that they are not happy with the experience, and they are very serious about it. BUT THEN they get invited to a media event for an attraction open, a restaurant, a hard-ticketed event, and they start to RAVE about Disney like you guys mentioned, over-hyping the stuff because deep down they want to keep being invited to these events, they want to keep that content flowing, and they want that revenue. So it's a bit too two-faced when they make videos saying how Disney sucks now only to turn back say 'DISNEY IS THE BEST EVER" with the most insincere miles on camera. That I will give Tom credit for and I think audiences are catching on.

[@kevinfraser7815]

Perfectly stated. It’s over saturated for source of income, not passion and genuine interest…. And it shows! I’m like ‘this is not about you- I’m here for the parks.’

[@timslee0618]

Yes, there is an oversaturation. Some of them have moved over to covering Universal & other parks as well

[@SailorSteph]

While I get what you are saying, the whole point of vloggers is that you get to like them and their content, so their personality is their brand. You watch for the Disney stuff, but you keep watching, because you like the personality they show on video. If I turned on a Disney theme park vlog and I didn’t like the people, in the video, I wouldn’t watch it would I.

[@Alej3880]

Tom is sooo passionate about Disney. He lives and breaths it, and i think thats why he can come accross arrogant sometimes. He takes this seriously and other vloggers don't, and that irritates him. I get him. Also, you need the rainbow of vloggers. People have different likes and wants, and the community needs to be diverse.

[@pap64]

Using the Ratatoutille Metaphor that Tom himself used, he's basically an Anton Ego, someone that got SO passionate about something that he lost joy and became a critic. Also using the whole 'HE'S PASSIONATE' thing is not a valid excuse for his arrogant behavior. One could say the same thing about the vloggers and just say "BUT THEY ARE LIVING THEIR BEST LIVES DON'T JUDGE!" while seeing them get drunk and harass guests and cast members. One can be passionate and call out issues without having to be condescending about it. It just makes Tom look worse in the long run.

[@mullins809]

Tom is not wrong in most of what he’s saying- we cannot stand all ears since Molly left and unsubscribed immediately- you may be surprised to hear we don’t like DFB guide either! Not saying DFB doesn’t have information but they are a complete sell out and is visible in how they changed over the years not even knowing the behind the scenes BS lol

[@adamp2384]

I agree completely with everything you said don’t even have anything else to add lol

[@sodiumKhloride]

I knew DFB was a fraud when they recommended the school bread in Norway

[@jackylsmith8138]

WDWNT has reported on many things and Disney has directly commented in response. Disney cannot stand that WDWNT has so much inside information and they cannot find the leaks. WDWNT isn’t the only one with inside info.

[@Navenfaux]

I don't know how much or how little you watch their content, but they DO influence Disney, and have gotten the attention of Chapeck and Iger. His persistent rants about major issues concerning the parks have been amazingly beneficial.

[@MainStreetMoments]

Can you give an example?

[@shawnokeefe1580]

I can…he points out parts of park in disrepair and the suddenly get fixed like the new sanfransokyo bridge..also reported of demise of country bears and they ke pt them….many many more.,especially with the repairs

[@pap64]

@@shawnokeefe1580 That's very basic examples; many KZbinrs and bloggers report on disrepairs. The whole issue with ToonTown and San Fransokyo at Disneyland have been covered by the likes of Fresh Baked, Provost Park Pass and essentially all of Disney Twitter. You have to remember that everyone is connected so if people notice anything off at the parks it's all over social media and KZbin, so no, Tom is not a catalyst for anything that happens or changes at the park, and quite frankly ANY Disney news site, vlogger, and KZbinr that claims to do so needs to get their heads off the clouds and get back to reality.

[@eric_in_florida]

He points out dirt and sometimes they clean it, then he rushes to take credit. Hilarious.

[@mousellaneous8011]

Disney spokespeople reach out to Tom directly because they are watching/listening to his content. Fast forward to 2:05 it’s wild! m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIXEiYBth9Kmbbc&pp=ygUcQm9iIGNoYXBlayBoYXRlcyB0b20gY29ybGVzcw%3D%3D

[@jtvloggin]

Nothing about the DisUnplugged Pete Werner drama? I was shocked you guys hadn't spoke on it

[@myrnapowell1637]

For real. I even messaged them on instagram about it even before Pete disappeared. Tattle was going on for a long time. Tom was the only one that had the balls to make mention of it.

[@waltbaker8036]

Do tell...

[@jtvloggin]

He's accused by former staffers of predatory grooming behavior@@waltbaker8036

[@MainStreetMoments]

Not touching that one lol

[@Photonica123]

Instead of all the bloggers hating each other, I agree it’s Tom that really hates everyone else. I do watch WDW news, but he is sooo condescending!

[@jeanie9139]

Yeah, that’s what I get from him, too. Like, “we’re the only serious news source for disney. Everyone else is strictly amateur.”

[@RositaKleineIsFine]

@@jeanie9139 Well WDWNT is serious... Strictly amateurs? Maybe, maybe not. What would you call other new sources that sell out to Disney? And sugarcoat the news?

[@kevinwilt3918]

On Resort TV I get the impression Josh is short tempered and highly competetive. It's only natural he's alienated just about everyone. As for Tom being a serious journalist. He covers cup cakes not what's going on in Gaza.

[@MainStreetMoments]

Haha true…about the cupcakes :)

[@barnabasthecat7329]

Like Daniel Plainview said, " this makes you my competitor"...

[@cathinieto39]

I dont think there is another channel like WDWNT, I find them refreshingly unique and I feel the same way about MainStreetMoments! I just wish you guys would post content more often 😊

[@dianna9283]

This was a fun vlog to listen too! Really enjoyed it. Honestly, I listened to both Tom and Eric’s podcasts and thought they were refreshingly interesting. The first one was about Disney Adults and of course you covered the second one in this vlog. It was a nice change for Disney vloggers to actually do something different and have an interesting discussion. I think your blogs are unique too and super entertaining. Thank you for sharing!

[@MainStreetMoments]

Thank you and yes we listened to the other one as well thought this was a better topic :)

[@MotorcoachTony]

I will say this. Agreed that Disney Management does not care about opinions of influencers OR even, tragically, their own guests. UNLESS...it causes them (Disney) to lose money or make them look bad on a large scale. I've been watching WDWNT for a while, and I've seen Tom show park footage of what most fans feel are "bad show," where areas and attractions are run-down and dirty, and by the next episode, that area/ride/hotel/restaurant, has been cleaned up & painted. Even Tom admits it might just be coincidence, but I believe that vloggers/influencers with a high number of subscribers, like Tom, are certainly looked at by corporations. Obviously not by Bob Iger himself, but having worked for Disney in the past, I know they have eyes everywhere making sure no one gives them a bad name. (Disney's been doing a fine job of that on their own over the last several years.) I currently work for a large worldwide corporation that has a department dedicated to all things social media, including pros and cons and brand protection, so I can see Disney doing/having the same thing. So while he may not have influence to creat a new land or ride, he does have the influence to call out Disney on their lack of standards and get noticed by Disney Management. If they're inviting people like Tom to special events, you know they're scrutinized/vetted before those invites go out.

[@ex-exfloridian]

The part about Tom Corless having proof of DFB Guide throwing away food was comedy gold. What a scandal. I'm surprised they didn't do a segment on 60 Minutes about AJ Wolfe secretly tossing pancakes in the garbage at Chef Mickey's.

[@MainStreetMoments]

Haha

[@patm95]

I agree with the sentiment that people are getting tired of watching live streamers basically live a vacation while we are working our 9-5 jobs trying to make ends meet.

[@MainStreetMoments]

I often wonder if that pisses people off…we enjoy the live streams and they are work especially in the heat…but sometimes it does seem absurd compared to “real” jobs lol

[@LittleGirlLost]

At Disnyland, I think the biggest vloggers are genuinely friends. They hang out togther outside of the parks. Celebrate each others bdays. All equal hatred for Best Life.

[@MainStreetMoments]

Lol True

[@eptxprotector]

Florida Resident Edits is great. There's been some speculation on some online forums that Jackie Super Enthused is the person behind FRE, but it's never been a 100% verified. Also, there's a new parody channel by the name of Troll Patrol that came out a few months ago. They mostly focus on skewering Adam the Woo, but they target other vloggers as well. They've got some really hilarious content.

[@aflacemery]

I wonder who runs it, also Daily Dumps are crazy good

[@eptxprotector]

@aflacemery Daily Dump is fantastic. They're growing pretty fast too, they're already at over a thousand subscribers in a short time.

[@eric_in_florida]

There's no way Jackie has anything to do with FRE. I would need cold hard proof before believing anything like that.

[@SusanStypa]

WDWNT/Tom Corless and the crew are my go to for the latest up to date Disney news. I have not found them doing click bait like many other channels. I find their content entertaining and truthful. This is my opinion….it’s ok that everyone has their own opinion. I like Mickey views as well.

[@jeanie9139]

Mickey Views is really good.

[@DestinationTimeshare]

While DFB may be corporate now, I suspect they started the same way, as a hobby/blog that grew faster and bigger. Nothing wrong with turning a hobby into a side hustle and then into a big company. That is kind of what it is all about.

[@bloodflow82]

I will say, you don’t have to watch anyone to hear things about other vloggers especially if you live local. And just because you haven’t run into a vlogger being rude doesn’t mean they aren’t rude to other vloggers, they most likely wouldnt be rude to viewers.

[@Stephanie-lg1cm]

🇬🇧 There are too many vloggers, worldwide, often ruining the experience for ordinary people. I recently went to a new farm shop /homeware centre in the UK which was absolutely full of vloggers, in Hunter wellies and English country clothing, which had never seen a horse or a farm. They were intrusive and obnoxious. There should be special days or events for these KZbinrs and leave the venues alone for the ordinary people afterwards. I love WDWNT, I think Tom is funny and informative and is spot on regarding the DFB guide. We stopped watching it because their video titles indicate that they’re going to blow the lid on something and then spend the whole vlog rationalising everything. I don’t think the bloggers hate each other, I think they’re competitive and need to keep some of their ideas to themselves. The Florida residents edits are absolute bullies and I wouldn’t watch their channel because of their tactics. They are very focussed on the Trackers in particular.

[@JojoVH]

I think you guys need to listen again to Tom and Eric’s talk. You touch on many moments where you don’t understand what was said by them and spin it so the “snob” looks bad, just cause you also admit you don’t like him. And on the part where you touch on Inside the Magic, please realize that that site spreads more lies and false rumors and fantasy stories than actual news. They rip things out of context, kinda like what you’re doing in this talk 😬

[@buster5661]

They are just trying to stir up drama for content

[@454MCM]

Yeah, the FRE showed how other guests were getting ill with paging Mr. Morrow and his crew being obnoxious.

[@themeparkamusement2214]

Tom opinion is his opinion. Every vlogger has a right to let the market decide who is entertaining. As for guests, they cough in your face, let their kids do what ever, and will run you over or talk loud in the line themselves.His holier than though attitude is pitiful.

[@lindajordan7712]

I am surprised that you guys haven't done a podcast on the Dis/Pete Werner controversy.

[@MainStreetMoments]

We addressed this in the last podcast

[@lindajordan7712]

Sweet! I will give it a listen.

[@lorenmayernik6532]

Inside The Magic is horrible for click bait! In my business I have people freaking out because they think Journey into Imagination with Figment is closing permanently (because no one reads articles and only reads titles). Their titles are misleading and give false impressions. They are far far below WDWNT! Anyone in the Disney sphere knows this…don’t give them credit. Tom has a complex but has correct information and is vital for keeping up with the parks.

[@engima2913]

“MASSIVE fire starts at Magic Kingdom attraction, killing many” In reality it’s an article about the fire effects on the pirates of the Caribbean ride. And the article has a 4 paragraph introduction that has nothing to do with the “news”

[@cathinieto39]

I really like Tom and WDWNT especially Tom's food reviews. They are 100% honest and I think he's funny. I dont even bother watching food reviews feom most disney bloggers because it is totally fake. Nobody likes everything they are tasting, especially Disney food!

[@christinepieper]

Fascinating topic today! 👍thanks for all the great analysis on the Disney vloggers, of which there are so many at this point. And new ones starting all the time.

[@FifthGate]

I can't imagine anyone hating Brayden.

[@buster5661]

Tom doesn't like Brayden. He's miffed at him because he claims Brayden stole a story from him without providing him credit

[@EricaEverAfter]

Inside The Magic is thorn in my side! 😂 The clickbait is soooo real I’ve blocked them on every platform 😂

[@jhillestad]

I don’t like any bloggers who get free stuff and then promoted onto me as if they bought it themselves and I’m talking about those Roosevelt shirts

[@JustinSteereMusic]

As a photographer. I find that the Disney Photographers are more inviting than vloggers when it comes to getting into the community and being involved and collabing. I met so many photographers and popular photographers that are so happy to help and meet up in the parks and I don't see that as much with Disney Vloggers. You're kind of on your own until you get more friendly with other vloggers. I met at least 10 really well known Disney Photographers within the first few months when I started posting regularly. So, I can see vloggers not being as welcoming because of the competition but I don't see why there has to be competition. It should be more about the community since we don't own Disney or anything that we promote in the parks. I think it's silly to have that kind of stance that you don't want to be affiliated with any other influencers. Unless somebody is rude and obnoxious or just annoying in general then obviously you wouldn't want to be associated with that person but so far I've only had good experiences with other fellow Disney photography influencers.

[@bocswu]

Wow. KZbin put a six hour "skip ad" on this video. And it was 1st of 2. I don't even know what it was selling. It was a room with a couch and a fireplace. A large window with a Bob Ross background. And the only sound was rain. That's gotta be the longest ad I've seen on KZbin. I watched it for 5 minutes to type this. 😂

[@bocswu]

48 minutes in they played it again.

[@CLIFFLIX]

Speaking of WDW burnout....that is such a facinating thing for Disney KZbinrs. I know a couple of friends that hit the Disney Vlogging thing super hard at first but then get burned out after a couple of years. KZbin in general can burn you out no matter what subject you do it with!! I know several KZbinrs that got exhausted with it over time. But yeah,...people move to Orlando for Disney and,..yep,..have constant fun time for a year or two...but in time, the honeymoon wears off. It can really lose it's luster when you go to WDW soooooooo much and then you struggle to find "anything" new to show in your video that you have not shown 1000 times before.

[@ParkBroz]

I don’t think there is hatred in the community. I think there are cliques though. Now being part of the community I can see that a lot more than the viewer can.

[@TheLivePlace]

I think your assessment is pretty much spot on. I realize when you meet someone in person that they generally are nice, cordial etc.. but your pointing out what they are saying on their podcast or vlogs, and I got the exact same impression.

[@myrnapowell1637]

Tom runs his show like he’s the great Johnny Carson. I appreciate it that you don’t like his style but they do get lots of inside info that others don’t have. If I worked hard to get the inside story I would get mad also if someone couldn’t be respectful to give me a footnote. They show all of the parks unlike other Disney vloggers and they have a lot of fun. You say that you like him but at the same time your trashing him…He’s the only one that had the balls to say something about what was going on at The Dis. Y’all want to call someone out pick up that story.

[@DoctorBella]

I was so confused as to why y'all were talking about a grocery store lol, until I realized you were talking about Trader SAMS, not Trader JOES heheheh. Love y'all.

[@MainStreetMoments]

Yeah we just shopped there the other day so guess that was on our minds lol 😆we have middle aged Brains so not as quick As they used to be…

[@SaraDKeel]

Haha that makes sense

[@Sojackie006]

Trader sams. I was so confused for a sec lol

[@destin.marie.]

I bet the bar guy was Dev... He seems to be the most negative.

[@georgemcfly78]

Either him or Kyle

[@witchingbrew3]

​@@georgemcfly78Kyle as View from the CheapSeats

[@kylerickey2035]

I had no idea "Trader Joes" had a store on Disney property!! NOW, I do enjoy me a Black Pearl at Trader Sams!

[@eric_in_florida]

I find the whole Disney vlogging and livestreaming thing endlessly fascinating and I like to hear your takes even though I don't always agree. The arena has really gotten interesting over the last couple years.

[@heatherschafer3734]

I agree, I like the news, I usually skip the other content

[@pap64]

I only read the Park Reports, photo articles and such. The podcasts, the reviews, the click-bait shock articles and such because they aren't truly informing me of anything.

[@DJLaing]

Its so funny to hear you guys dispel the comment that Tom has the power to change Disney. Its happened multiple times. Its not arrogance. Its fact. Brer Bear tail, Country Bears, Maintenance Report. There have been others. That statement is factual and they've been told from people inside the company. If you think Chapek wasn't aware of Tom and this company you are being glib.

[@ExtraordinaryDays2021]

I’m thinking PC or Kyle

[@tammydaniels170]

Does sound like something either one could be capable of, both have chips on the shoulders.

[@kevinfraser7815]

PC Dev is actually pretty cool in person. Ironically I ran into Him and Tom at Disney Springs for Christmas holiday last year and both were very nice. But I’m not sure who Tom was referencing in the video.

[@EricaEverAfter]

Im sitting here trying to figure out why the Disney Vloggers were so excited about Trader Joe’s. 😂😂😂

[@tracyneal3529]

Me too. Hahahah.

[@JoshuaNicholas650]

The name is wrong it's called Trader Sam's and it's popular for being a really nice bar at the Polynesian resort.

[@treasures_untold_vlogs]

I was dying about this part!

[@JustGettinBy1321]

Hahaha, I was sitting here yelling at my screen, "It's Trader SAM'S! Trader JOE'S is a grocery store!"

[@wendyrodocker2172]

Was there some kind of falling out between Josh and Jenna and Maria from LBV TV? They used to do a lot together and talk about each other, but they don’t anymore?

[@tanyaosterman]

Disneyland vloggers have had their own drama

[@roxyloveslucy]

BLAB? 🤦 Yep. Absolutely Horrid.

[@witchingbrew3]

Bingo

[@gandyr1397]

This was gold. I really enjoyed your takes and views.

[@pap64]

Sorry for the comments but forgot to mention that the British Guy is Jack from DSNY Newscast and I have heard from Cast member friends that he can be a bit of a jerk especially to Cast members when he is doing his news videos. He is still pretty decent at analyzing the news and getting deep into why something worked and didn't work. But when he got into a spat with Brayden of Mickey Views, they both lost points on my eyes as their argument on Twitter about who had the right information about the Blue Sky concept art shown off last year was rather childish for both men to engage in, and in a way proved what this podcast is saying about Disney content creators secretly hating each other, and it all boils down to one thing; EGOS. They all want to be the best Disney KZbinr, news reporter, and Vloggers, and when they all want to be the best and gain views, they can get nasty. If anything this should be a cautionary tale about doing something out of passion or out of financial gain, mainly how one shouldn't overtake the other as you can still have a loving passion towards something but also find a clever way to gain profits of it.

[@resablue]

I used to watch all the vloggers. Now I only watch if I have a trip planned and I need updates on any changes. …And I only watch those segments. Regarding wdwnt, I usually agree with most of what Tom says. I think he’s pretty honest about his opinions. He can be pretty nit-picky sometimes. That being said, I also fast forward past the stuff about things I’m never going to be able to buy or parks I’m never going to visit. Other than that, I Always watch Mickey Views. He’s the best vlogger in my opinion. He’s so informative, and fact based. I also watch dsny newscast. I’ve become the sort of viewer that is more about facts than living vicariously through vloggers day at the park. Or worse, hotel stays in resorts I don’t have a chance in hell at staying at. Not to mention the super annoying home vlogs. I also hate DFB. When Molly left all ears I unsubscribed. But I also don’t like her mammoth channel. Almost all the vloggers are so predictable in content it’s just so boring. Most of them seem so resistant or afraid to say anything negative even when it’s obvious. I do like non talking vlogs-4K WDW, Walkaramma, AKFasso(sunrise series)

[@unitedmbbglobal5270]

What's ridiculous about DFB possibly wasting the food? And to dismiss it as "They can't eat all the food," they don't need to buy/accept it. They can literally just take pictures from inside the case or find images of it on the internet. Learning that about DFB also annoyed me. The lady podcaster here seems just as petty and biased as she's accusing Tom of being. Seems very hypocritical to me. the fact that the male podcaster had to stop her from being unprofessional and blurting someone's channel name that she thinks would be disgruntled enough to glare down other creaters, but then implies that Tom and Eric are lying because they didn't name the person it... again. Hypocritical. Also, you don't drink. Awesome for you, but you come off VERY judgemental in this podcast to people that do. I'm not even a fan of WDWNT, but the lady podcaster here was just as uppity than I've ever seen either of them be. I like the gentleman podcaster here. I'd listen to his episodes, even if I disagree. She's just... No, thank you.

[@MainStreetMoments]

Tell me how you really feel lol Thanks for listening! Is this Tom?

[@BobDoesReviews]

Maybe it was Alan glaring them down. He's like 6'4 and works out daily lol

[@BobDoesReviews]

And him and Molly go to many bars and breweries in Orlando. HMMMMMM

[@MainStreetMoments]

Oh maybe lol

[@beckstairs]

Maybe Tim Tracker

[@felixmeow660]

I think it was Alan he was talking about.. that's who it sounded like to me

[@jmchinch]

Wait..Alan works out?

[@robynrivera4632]

So as an aside, I am a huge fan of ResortTV1 and you touched on the ResortTV1/LBVTV situation. Anyone know what happened there? I’ve been so curious because they all used to hang out a lot and now you never see them together.

[@barnabasthecat7329]

Somebody was getting used....

[@djthereplay]

Ok, true that yes going back and forth to Disney to make a selfish boulevards to trash Disney sets me off but the one thing that I cannot stand is when the ones who call out the trashing to cut a boulevards to trash Disney themselves and also trash those who are using this platform, etc. to share their Disney Experiences so that those who cannot go to Disney have a way to experience Disney at the very least in a virtual sense. Now, one of the things that I have been saying on this topic about this repetitive criticizing on Disney and repetitive coverage of Disney and claiming to be a Disney Fan is this. If you are trying to come to Disney repetitively to cut a boulevards to complain over selfish reasons to be a bully towards those people at Disney who welcome you and make serve you then I believe that I should have a right to question that person's motives for going to Disney, much less if they are really a Disney Fan or not. But I have to expand that now to you the hypocrites who trash other Disney Vloggers/Podcasters to trash Disney Yourselves. If you have that big of a problem with taping in the parks that you have to dictate and control people who tape in the parks in My View You can GO TO HELL and BURN IN HELL TIMES INFINITY because that video taping today becomes their ONLY "souvenir video of their vacation" something that Disney used to make and update officially and sell in the parks. Here's a few tips for you If what the person is using is not yours or if you choose to have private conversations in front of people including those who are video taping or if you choose to visit or stay at a pace where other people are then you need to shut the mighty hell up. And, yes I do disagree with some of the mockery of the company, etc. that Tom Corless and WDWNT does and yes they have gotten some backlash from the company for it but you know what? At the very least Tom Corless and WDWNT are trying to hold the brain trust of the Company accountable to being more honest to Walt, The Cast Members and The Fans. At least Tom Corless and WDWNT has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they give a care and have a passion for the stability of the foundation that Walt's Legacy is built on and is holding the company accountable to that ends by calling out and mocking the self destructive and deceptive decisions made by the brain trust of company. As I like to put it, The Higher Power above us all uses the wicked to confound the wise and those who think that they are wise in the Walt Disney Company. At least Tom Corless and WDWNT is showing what is going on so that people who book their trip can be prepared and understand where their money is going to. So the next time you go around here cutting boulevards to persecute Disney Vloggers/Podcasters You had better take a moment and look at the kind of being you are because people in glass houses should not be throwing stones.

[@TheDupresdoDisney]

In truth it’s not much different from our parents’ old school vhs recorders of the 90s they used to walk around with everywhere to capture our trips as kids. Some people also are just doing that. I’ll video on occasion so my nephews can watch when they don’t come with us. Not by any means trying to be a pro or even promote to the masses. almost all of the ones that involve our family home videos, I post as private… I also know we will cherish these when my kid is older just like we gather on holidays and watch our six flags trips from when I was a kid. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@mabalder]

you guys mentioned the country bears retheme that wdwnt called out. turns out they were right.

[@tresgriffin8242]

You know, I agree that it seems like Tom is the one who has a problem with other vloggers. I wouldn’t be surprised if we find out that’s he’s one of the main people behind the Disney vloggers section on Tattle. (For those not in the know. This awful message board where people say some rather nasty things about the vloggers, but that’s a conversation for another day.)

[@aprilethridge2993]

I'm an avid reader/lurker on that board. I've learned so much about the Disney streamers and the whole Pete scandal. LOL!

[@KyraHogue]

Just from this episode, I'm not sure I'll keep watching. The amount of negativity coming from Cathy where she mentions that she hates several people/channels discussed here seems excessive. I get that everyone has opinions, and that's fine, but it's a bit off putting. And I get that she thinks Tom acts high and mighty/above it all, but does it need to be mentioned over and over and over again? Maybe they have other more lighthearted videos covering topics and people they both like and might be a little more positive on. Edited for clarity.

[@nomercywatch9068]

I don't really care who does what and who doesn't. I watch all the channels that have to do with Walt Disney World. I come from Germany and don't get to see WDW that often. 😀

[@codymorrell4834]

We were in the "that crazy disney lady" live stream. I was not a huge fan that my kids were in here stream and several people commented on them in the video comments. It was her live stream at epot on october 9th.

[@MainStreetMoments]

Yes that is a problem

[@katcalico9142]

I am actually a fan of WDWNT (including the silly content)! It’s fun!! I really and truly do not understand the livestream thing - I have zero desire to watch someone walk around a park reading out a chat. No hate just not fun to me. I got into watching livestreams when the parks first reopened and I couldn’t travel but I don’t really get it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@resablue]

I hate livestreams. I can’t stand when they talk to ppl in chat. It’s like being at a dinner table with someone who has an earbud and intermittently talks to their friend on the phone. Just annoying.

[@lukeniles9339]

I only follow Pugh Two, Rix Flix, and Mammoth Club. All Ears has become boring and cliché

[@psionyxv2210]

I’ll respect Florida Resident Edits when they have the stones to admit who they are. Vloggers put themselves out there.

[@kevinosterhout]

Is this guy Jared from Subway’s brother? Same vibe.

[@ChronicleComicArt]

Hahahahaha! You literally did exactly what Tom said vloggers and “ influencers “ do. Hes 100% right about you and the majority of weird cringy Disney adults. 🤣😂🤣

[@moonbeammama22]

Lmao the Plankton reference....

[@damnimloomin]

This is why i say Tom is an influencer lol! He influences peoples opinions and is important enough to have an entire show dedicated to his own show lol! But i do honestly thing Tom does have some power to change Disney only because they try so hard to stop Tom’s reporting. Edit: i will say DFB does a ton of rating and raving about food they think it’s worth trying and Tom mentioned in the podcast that they have tried some of the DFB top food picks and they were not as good as they advertised. I still Ike DFB but eh i get Tom’s opinion. If they are going to “try the food” that Disney is “showcasing” and they didnt try the food but still “recommend it” i have to agree with Tom it makes me question their entire blog. He also spoke at length about his experiences at Disney media events so i can see his perspective personally.

[@Wheels518]

59:00 what Tom is saying about them is correct two different incidents one of my friends saw them take a photo and throw it away and another incident was one of my friends ran into AJ. Saw her take a picture of the food and asked them if they wanted it gave it to them and AJ wrote a good review of it and was like oh it is the best thing at the festival. And she didn’t even taste it, and they said after seeing what she said about it, that they wouldn’t have even spent the money on it because it was flavorless and gross.

[@MainStreetMoments]

Oh wow

[@johnnymanning4920]

When was Trader Joes closed? I thought they were an essential grocery store business during the pandemic.

[@MainStreetMoments]

Lol we meant trader Sam’s obviously

[@Steve-ww6nv]

@@MainStreetMoments For a vlog who's entire episode is complaining about others, GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT !!!

[@johnnymanning4920]

I’m just busting your chops, you all do a good job 😆

[@MainStreetMoments]

@johnnymanning4920 I know all good :) our memories are not as good they used to be lol

[@eljefemaximo5420]

All I have to say is if Disney listened to influencers Tony's Town Square would be a smoking hole in the ground. Also FRE is being eclipsed by the Daily Dump

[@MainStreetMoments]

Troll Patrol yes good Channel

[@eljefemaximo5420]

​@@MainStreetMomentsone more thing about FRE because of his opening I always say Dinosaurrrrrrr like Michael Kay I can't say it normal anymore.

[@amydoran9987]

I follow a few vloggers, like DFB guide. Dis unplugged and paging Mr.Morrow too. I also enjoy WDW news too.I watch these videos before and in between my yearly Disney trips.

[@Club1901]

Okay 😂 Hold on So as a small (nobody vlogger) I can confirm that I have personally been right beside DFB field reporters several times and they do eat the food.😂

[@MainStreetMoments]

Lol Awesome :) And you’re not a “nobody vlogger”

[@jquatt21]

This was an awesome episode!!! I didn’t want it to end!!!

[@MainStreetMoments]

Thank you!

[@TheMess9898]

The only one I know that is genuine, honest and truly loves Disney is Lou Mongello

[@joitwotheworld]

I think all of Disney vloggers feel they are legit, WDWNT don't do the polyana Disney news, it is clear that some of the streamers are fake friends with other because they are all competing with each other for viewers and ad revenue. I only watch channels that have a regular rotation of what I like to see so it doesn'tget boring for me and I take breaks from watching when I get bored. When a streamer is bored with doing the same thing all the time, it transfers to the viewer. As far non concent that is an issue, some streamers such as FPE (Florida Park Explorers) have children that want to say HI on camera and they always find out how old they are and check with their parents or adult they are with first, as an example. I have noticed how many streamers, if they are self aware will point the camera away from people or at themselves in a line, which is respectful. I appreciate your point about how a lot of the channels are personality driven and the parks or any activity is secondary, this is why I like Disney Food Blog cause they aren't on camera, I don't need to watch people eat (hate it)I am not Best Life and Beyond hater, I think they enjoy being infamous, wearing the black hat. Great Discussion

[@moemoe513]

Tom has no charisma no charm he’s not funny and ego that wouldn’t fit on spaceship earth. He doesn’t just come off as jealous of other Disney KZbinrs but it’s clear that he is. He gets like 3k-10k views per video while someone like Mickey Views gets like 90k+ with half the subscribers. It’s clear he thinks he should have the biggest Disney channel and he hates that he doesn’t

[@Trenacker]

The WDWNT podcast was even-handed, given the topic, and they handled the troubling allegations against Pete Werner with a great deal of class. It’s certainly off-putting to hear anybody label themselves an influencer (it always smacks of hubris), but in this case, it was true. WDWNT’s Twitter account has 403,000 followers and it is widely accepted that a June 26, 2019 post on the Disney Parks Blog took aim at WDWNT, including in the fan chatter on the Blog itself that afternoon. Tom’s analysis of the situation makes sense: you don’t “punch down” at somebody that’s beneath your interest. Disney is listening for Tom even if they aren’t listening *to* Tom. I love WDWNT, and Tom and the cast are the reason. I think part of WDWNT/Tom’s appeal to fans is that he’s allowed his foibles--his ego, his managerial style, his romantic mishaps--to be exposed in a way other personalities that cover Disney have not. And it’s not just that Tom lost media access a while back and therefore had to rebrand himself as an “independent voice.” It’s that blogs like TPM Vids or DFB Guide are overproduced to the point of being saccharine. I love all three, but WDWNT is considerably more human. DFB Guide is essentially an extension of Disney marketing, while WDWNT is true commentary. Tom also has a clear philosophy of journalism that serves as his North Star, which I find admirable. He’s both a trained journalist and a journalist in practice. It’s normal for somebody in that position-especially a successful entrepreneur-to compare themselves to major people in the field. Adult Disney fans (ADFs), influencers included, appear to comprise a significant new demographic for Disney-one that is experience-inelastic in a way that “the family from Denver” is not. The ADF is seeking to activate nostalgia, which they can achieve just by being present in the parks. Influencers in particular want to convey an experience-good or bad. The family from Denver won’t come back if they have a bad time, but for the ADF-Influencer, a bad time is equally as marketable as a good time, and maybe even *more* desirable. I would also argue that no company with such an intrusive survey operation is *not* listening to customers. The issue is that the interests of the “family from Denver” don’t really align with the people who treat Disney-watching as a lifestyle in itself. The family from Denver wants to “live the movies”-they want to take young kids to see their favorite IP, they aren’t expecting much from Disney restaurants, and they wouldn’t know a call-back to Yesterworld if it bit them on the nose. I think Tom and others are very correct in saying that Disney wouldn’t lose money if they tried another tack, but it seems fairly obvious that the surveys, combined with cost pressures, are driving Disney in a certain reductive direction.

[@TWEEVIL71]

I like Tom, took me a second to warm but I think he really does care. I didn't get the beef with DFB before but I get it. He is invested and says they aren't so much. He is a goofball really - dry as dirt but a goofball. They have coincidentally reported some things that got 'corrected or fixed' at Disney straight away. They also do nothing paid - their reviews and opinions they own with no contingency to Disney. I like him, some of his cast of characters on the channel get on my nerves - there is one that just screams... but yeah - that's my opinion. Thanks for covering.

[@JamesCassidy-z3f]

Promise Hope is a top 5 Disney vlogger!!

[@Mylhibug]

I think they are making it up, or maybe it was Nate from Paging Mr. Morrow, lol. Or PC Dev.

[@Mylhibug]

Oh, and it was DSNY that Cathy doesn't like; maybe he's the villain in the story?

[@MainStreetMoments]

@Mylhibug yes that’s it! Maybe lol

[@eptxprotector]

I think it's Paging Mr. Morrow. I remember he did a vlog with Adam the Woo and Best Life and he drank like 10 beers at the Germany pavilion like if it was nothing. You can tell he's a heavy drinker.

[@Zivanod]

@@eptxprotectormy thought too. Tattle life talks about seeing PMM drinking alone off property often after filming drinking videos at the parks.

[@wdwexploreandchill]

I’ve been looking forward to your take on this one. 😉

[@MainStreetMoments]

Awesome!

[@TheREELGEEK]

Tom Corliss is very full of himself as are many of those involved with WDWNT.

[@buster5661]

Eric has more ego and pride than Tom does

[@RositaKleineIsFine]

@@buster5661 That's because Eric is older then Tom and glad he doesn't have to wear a suit to work no more. 😁

[@RositaKleineIsFine]

@@TheREELGEEK He may come across that way, but he is not, he just knows Disney better than most

[@bloodflow82]

I don’t think Tom was upset with inside the magic for doing the same story, he said it was linked to them but they were not credited as a source. They should have been if they are linked to the story.

[@mcsylva4020]

in my opinion WDWNT is amazing, they are entertaining and informative, the members of the team I have met/talked to in the parks are extremely nice and were very happy I stopped them to say hi, also the Thursday Night show they put on is must watch its the tonight show but all about Disney.......IMO the big 3 that I follow for Disney info are WDWNT, The Dis "unlimited" and Mammoth Club

[@buster5661]

I like them too, but Eric can be a bit of a butt. He needs to let go of his ego

[@briandavis7761]

I really enjoy your podcasts here on KZbin. Looking forward to many more in the future ❤

[@buster5661]

Imagine calling someone annoying, but not explain why. That just makes you a butt

[@gregtaylor7206]

Thanks for the listen. Huge logic leaps for the co host here to get to suspect conclusions. Watching content has nothing to do with finding someone’s real feelings. Conversations do. And I buy Tom and the co-host not paying close attention to other content. It’s the old Friends line ‘if I have to see one more cup of coffee…’ There’s too much of it.

[@scottbrawner]

I’m kinda shocked that he doesn’t talk about Lou Mongello more….i wonder if those two have beef

[@23pinkpear]

Dfb is materialistic good for Tom for speaking the truth and I’m SO SICK of the forced materialism and consumerism on these channels buy buy buy until you die die die at Disney

[@juliekm6495]

Please! How can they not share their audience? I watch five or six and sometimes a few others!

[@brewcrew17]

I was really confused when you were talking about Trader Joe's..I thought they were all lined up at a grocery store. Trader Sam's is at polynesian lol

[@TheRealVolk]

The Curse of the Morrow Stare. 😵‍💫

[@georgemartinez9693]

I thought it was Palo