We Broke Metal Detecting: Simultaneous Multi Frequency Is OLD Technology

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Part 1 Of This Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nofQqJ-hZciki8k Minelab's Knowledge Base: www.minelab.com/knowledge-base/key-technologies

[@testboga5991]

Hi Meryl, the claim that it only uses two frequencies may be WRONG. The oscilloscope trace in the video is a square wave. Square waves have harmonics, ie a 3 kHz signal also contains 9 kHz, 15 kHz, 21 kHz etc. The Deus may very well analyze these harmonics! To claim it is only dual frequency is false to make if the signal analysis of the return is unknown! The TX signal certainly contains more than 2 frequencies!!!!

[@GeorgeJetson1]

Yes! You really need a spectrum analyzer to see everything. Yes, worked as a EE in R&D for about 15 years.

[@Yakena1]

@@GeorgeJetson1 Very true in needing a spectrum analyzer to see all.

[@alfasud1972]

Smf are usually 2 or 3 frequencies which is enough. If you would use more frequencies together, they wil ‘collide’ which result in loss of performance.

[@zigmaex]

It’s too bad White’s is out of business. They were truly the innovators. I was detecting about 40 years ago - about the time Whites developed motion sweeping with their Coinmaster series. We take this feature for granted today because most current detectors use motion sweeping. The use of motion was a HUGE breakthrough in metal detecting because it somehow allowed better detection through mineralized soil. Now I learn from you that Whites also developed multi-frequencies. Great credit is due Whites!

[@luboslavouchev3835]

I don't see anything new from Fisher too

[@DonDufresne]

The engineer responsible for those innovations went on to found Teknetics. Great memories.

[@chiil034]

I still have their DFX (dual frequency) and V3i (three frequency) detectors. Also have their TDI Pulse. Love them all.

[@wallsttiger]

Garrett bought them and they're rumored to be coming out with a new Whites/Garrett combo detector

[@simonlinser8286]

i used to have a whites, i sold it, kind of regret it

[@baneverything5580]

A fancy rich guy came up to me in 1996 at a boat launch and laughed at my 250 dollar Radio Shack Bounty Hunter machine which was the first one I`d ever owned with target ID and multiple tones. He called it a "toy." It had 4 tones, manual and auto ground balance, and an all metal threshold mode, plus a ground grab button on the tip of the handle. Just days before I had found three amazing 14k gold rings with it in just over 35 minutes.

[@cruikshank]

I’ve found plenty with my Bounty Hunter Tracker IV I bought used like new for $40 and it’s Radio Shack labeled cousin the Discovery 1000 I picked up for $15! Learn the machine you’ll find coins, rings, relics & lots of junk too.

[@harrysurtees8710]

Me too, I loved my Bounty Hunter Elite 2200. I've dug a lot of silver coins with it, and some gold. Maybe the best thing I liked about it, was when I hunted with a friend, he used to say, "let's get out of here, all I'm finding are bottle caps" , when I never dug a single one.

[@baneverything5580]

@@harrysurtees8710 Mine looked like their Gold Digger except it had LCD target ID instead of a needle. I think it was a Discovery or something like that. I`ve only seen one picture of one like it online. It was their most expensive one at the time but it found a lot of money, rings and great relics for me.

[@MetalDetectingDonna]

Please explain a Ground grab button. Thank you

[@Aluminata]

Every $100 gets you another 12 mm depth. 😅

[@jenniervelazquezdelpino3017]

Hi there. I've been fighting with some KZbin channels over that story. Some KZbinrs push metal detectors and remember the impact videos have on a metal detectorist who rhinos that an inch will make a difference and keep on buying. Get a good machine. Learn it and go out as much as you can. Learn the sites and a bit of history. If you are a beach detectorist like me, learn the tides, history, sand movement, currents, weather, people concentration at parts of the beach. Observation is the key. Learn the language of the machine, what's telling you with sounds, forget the freaking screen for a second, id helps but 95% is sound. Get what fits your budget and the use you're gonna give it. Love your hobby and have patience...

[@StelarTheroc]

Absolutely sound is the best indicator that is why I choose the Excalibur for beach and water hunt

[@LoneWolf-479]

My grandpa had an old White's detector he let me play with when I was 8yrs old. All I dug was junk, but it was treasure to me. I'm 44 now, & detecting has been the only constant in my life all these years. I got a MXT after high school & acquired damn near every coil on the market. Man I miss that thing, & the "simple times".

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Great anecdote

[@melparker7711]

Your right Simultaneous multi Freq has been around for a long long time. Fisher had simultaneous multi freq years ago in their CZ detectors for both land and water they operated at 5 khz and 15 khz.

[@hubsi5263]

Yes, i owned the CZ5 4 times!

[@paulrinehart4262]

Yeah but the cz was heavy and pricey.

[@hubsi5263]

@@paulrinehart4262 yes, the Whites machines were much more balanced!

[@czconnoisseur354]

Loved the CZ series and they are still a good machine to this day.

[@Mizo476]

Good day to you sir. My 13 year old son was gifted a Nokta Makro simplex for Christmas. He found his 1st ring on his second day hunting with me. He is now subscribed and watches you channel. We have been detecting in the old parks in North Carolina. Minus the false signals in salt water, and giving up a few inches of depth in the parks. The Nokta Makro Simplex + has been hanging with my Minelab Equinox 800. I dug / found a 1945 wheat penny at the beach at 19 inches deep. Goal set for this year is Ten gold rings , Fifty silver rings.. Have a great day!

[@MetalDetectingDonna]

Is the simplex a saltwater machine?

[@x5-acousticguitarstuff.2]

I toured the Minelab Factory in South Australia around 30 Years ago and I met Bruce Candy. What a fantastic day. Nobody talks about the Minelab EXPLORER SE Pro.

[@GeorgeJetson1]

Strange. I started using the Fisher CZ-5, CZ-6 and CZ-20 back in the mid 90’s. All dual frequency, 5khz/15khz.

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

I hope that Garrett and Fisher can rally. 2 legendary brands!

[@dakota3206]

when I was a kid in the 70s I got a radio shack metal detector for 5 bucks at an garage sale had one knob you pulled out to turn it one and adjust it.I think it was a bfo. I found jars and jars of wheat pennies silver gold class rings. Schools were pretty much virgin ground. those were the days lol

[@vetdetect]

Don’t get places like that anymore. I can only dream.

[@maxxkatt]

from what I understand the 1970's & 1980's were great metal detecting days. In Atlanta old timers have told me they would find over 100 3 ringers and CW buttons in a 2 day hunt around some battle areas in the Buckhead area of Atlanta. Now I am lucky to find one 3 ringer in 6 months using advanced detectors like the 800.

[@hubsi5263]

@@maxxkatt Yes, there were no Internet and Yt, so we were only a handful of nutty boys. Now we are hundred thousands and the soil getting empty...

[@MetalDetectingDonna]

Ah, the good old days! I wish I had been a part of them. 👍

[@brazosfulfer]

I have a white XLT that I’ve been using for 20 years. I got the whites DFX a couple years back. I’ve been using it every day since. I have never used a Minelab, equinox or vanquish, in my opinion, is only limited to whites since that’s all I have used. They are fully customizable and made a great silver hunting machines. I don’t find a lot of gold, but silver will blow the headphones up, the VDI is very accurate to a point and separation is decent. There are many after market smaller coils that help with trashy areas. I however love the 9.5 in coil and run mixed mode with a lot of modifications to hunt fields that have been hunted before. Yesterday in a filed fully of iron, pulled a 12k 1-20 tiny heart 8 inches down between the iron nails and also several mercury dimes and wheat Pennie’s. It has taken a a lot of trial and error to create this program. The stock programs are decent for beginners, but to really get the best out of the white machine you need to know what all the settings do and how they correlate to each other. The DFX runs three and 15 kHz and I love my whites detector. I dream of a equinox. I’ve watched so many videos and all of your videos I think about the Minelab equinox every day even while swinging a detector I do enjoy using. Best wishes and happy new year.

[@w5cdt]

You speak the truth! I’m 68 and built my first BFO metal detector when I was 15 and grew up to be an electrical engineer and chip designer. After years of owning multiple detectors as well as studying patents from all vendors I have concluded that ALL detectors are limited by signal-to-noise ratio. The “noise” being the mineralized matrix in which your treasure is hidden. So that’s the limit. While target ID refinements will continue detection depth reaches a practical limit. I have a cheap Discovery 2200 which delivers target discrimination as well as my Garret AT Pro. The real difference is ruggedness of construction and waterproof housing of the Garret AT Pro. If you want success with your treasure hunting it’s as much about WHERE you detect as it is how much your detector costs. Just buy a detector from a reputable vendor and then find the best spots to search. (PS- I don’t have an opinion on gold hunting…just general targets such as coins,etc).

[@southernrelics]

This is why I like your videos, Merrill. You teach us something we didn’t know and you conclude by telling us to go out there and dig up treasure. I like it. If I wasn’t working today, I’d be digging up treasure today too.

[@dombaker6210]

How have people never known about this. Whites were one of the biggest names in metal detecting. I have a V3i simultaneous multi frequency and still use it today. Still one of the best detectors ever made.

[@rickkeifer5928]

I've been thinking about getting a Deus2 but I will always use my V3I Whites will always be number one!

[@jeffkelley9801]

Thank you.

[@Stevesmith-yw7cr]

The BBS and multi band technology is also used in cell phones. The person who invented BBS and multi band technology was none other than actress Hedy Lamar back in the 40's. She was a genius and developed those technologies to help the US win the 2nd world war. Those technologies she developed are the basis for the technologies used in today's cell phones and metal detectors plus many more applications. She is a true American Hero,

[@MetalDetectingDonna]

Wow! That’s amazing! 👍

[@markalexander6517]

Lamar's patent was used for torpedos. She never profited from her idea due to politics, maybe having been a German immigrant. There was a fascinating program on one of the streaming services about Hedy Lamar- a gorgeous genius.

[@Rabbie1962]

Hi Merrill. I thought I would just answer the question that everybody is now asking after watching your video. I bought my first multi-frequency detector in 1992. It was a Fisher CZ6 Quicksilver. I believe that the Fisher CZ6 which was dual frequency was launched at the about the same time, early '92, as Minelab introduced the first Sovereign which was the first of the BBS machines using 17 frequencies. Way back then, most people didn't realise the advantages of using more than one frequency and for a couple of years I made an absolute killing on the beach before the other detectorists cottoned on. 56 gold rings in 2 years! That wouldn't happen now. I'm lucky if I get 5 a year nowadays. When I bought the CZ6, I was contemplating whether to get the Sovereign or the CZ6 and the dealer explained the differences between the two and let me try them both but something which he pointed out more than 30 years ago was that the Sovereign, although having 17 frequencies only actually transmits two at any one time and receives back from 1, which, I suppose backs up the findings on your video. This is probably true of all simultaneous MF detectors.

[@timhenderson2643]

The fisher cz5 came out in 1993 running on 5khz and 15khz at the same time The fisher cz6 came in 1992 with the same specs. Dave Johnson was their engineer.

[@horseman528]

Those were great detectors.

[@BirdDogg]

The nautilus machines designed by Jerry Tyndall out of Coates NC were using simultaneous all metal and discriminating frequencies a long long time ago. You get all metal in one ear and discrimination in the other. If I understand right there were actually two coils inside of the single coil. Not sure if this is the same but to me those old nautilus machines are still some of the best. No bells, no whistles, just 36v going into the ground, pure depth and the ultimate discrimination(your own ears)

[@historyhoarder634]

The Nautilus DMC-2B was one of the best good ground relic hunting machines ever. I dug over 25 Civil War Belt-plates and thousands of bullets with mine and I still have it.

[@BirdDogg]

@@historyhoarder634 I’ve still got three of them and they are my machine of choice in good soil

[@jeddiet7112]

I ran nautilus machines for 19 years. Two channels, not 2 frequencies. The detector operated at 14 khz. They were heavy, awkward to use, had poor discrimination, useless in trash, and gave false signals most likely due to slow recovery speed. In addition, the detection pattern at depth was only about an inch wide. There is no telling how many targets were walked over due to that issue alone. Yes, the coil had 2 windings: one for transmit and one for receive.

[@BirdDogg]

@@jeddiet7112 I’ve run em for about 20 years, and had piles of other machines/sponsors etc. Nautilus is still my go to machine in the right soil (used it mostly in sandy tidewater Virginia soil) and I’d put it up against any machine there.

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

@birddogg can you email me at [e-mail]? I have some Nautilus questions.

[@actionman9357]

I bought my White's DFX way back in 2007! I "baby" my equipment! I also have THREE different coils for the DFX! The original nine inch coil. The twelve inch coil, and the oval coil. It looks somewhat "new", as I "use it, but never abuse it!"

[@shank2213]

Would be interesting to run the oscilloscope on the manticore too.

[@awejeez4319]

Minelab sovereign series with bbs (multi frequency) launched in 91'. The gt was the last gen before they discontinued them. Excalibur 2 still uses it. Whites had been paying minelab for the rights to use multi frequency. The patent ran out and that is why the legend and d2 were able to exist.

[@EccentricAuntWanda1]

dfx was 2001, so 10 years after sovereign

[@JPDaigle]

The Sovereign hit the market in late 1989. I still own a Sovereign XS2aPro and it will still hold it's own against most anything out there in the proper hands. Run an equinox 800 now because of target separation and weight.

[@danholman5282]

That you for this information. I have and still prefer using my Sovereign from 1991. It might belong in a museum but it is a great machine and the only one I have ever seen in the U.S. it is not a Sovereign II, it's a straight up Sovereign from 1991..

[@StelarTheroc]

Xs2apro that detector was so good on silver just amazing

[@StevenBrooks346]

Great video. The first Minelab Sovereign with BBS was released in January 1991.

[@pastp3805]

I will never get rid of my V3i. Recovery (signal speed) is it's only outdated feature because of its processor. If you swing slow it's still a deep killer but separation can sometimes be a problem.

[@superlocator69]

Actually Fisher Research Lab was the first to launch a multi frequency metal detector. It was the CZ-6 Quicksilver around 1992.

[@hubsi5263]

CZ5, the 6 only has no loudspeaker to protect the housing from rainwater.

[@superlocator69]

@@hubsi5263 yes you may be correct that CZ5 was launched before the CZ6

[@timbrown8581]

Hi Merrill. Great information as usual. There has always been a lot of marketing involved in the sale of metal detectors with some outlandish claims made. But what it boils down to for most people is to use the best machine you can afford. When you first pick up a detector, you really don't know what you're doing or even if the hobby is for you! I started with a Bounty Hunter, found some coins and a silver ring and I was hooked. It didn't mater that the detector only cost me $50, it was the thrill of the hunt! After more than 15 years of detecting and ticking off most of the bucket list finds, I still love the hunt. I've been using the Etrac and Excalibur since they were released and am only now considering an upgrade. Those two detectors have paid for themselves many times over. Love your enthusiasm for our hobby.

[@harrysurtees8710]

The Deus II, for me, is the best. Its cost is high but worth every penny. The way I look at it is, if your gonna metal detect, why not use the best detector? It being the lightest is a bonus. That said, I preordered the Manticore, hoping it will be better, and besides, I will need a backup. I sold my NOX 800. For those of you new to detecting, Merrill's channel is a must for learning how to metal detect. There are other channels that are great too.

[@Mizo476]

Hello, I'm trying to research as much as I can before upgrading to a new detector. Why do you like the Deus 2 if you dont mind me asking compared to the equinox 800?

[@robertbrenner6718]

If you want the best then get the CTX 3030. The Deus 2 is a good machine, but it can't compare.

[@Mizo476]

@@robertbrenner6718 I sincerely appreciate your advice. I've read allot of information and watched a bunch of videos on the ctx 3030. Visual aids are always extremely helpful especially matched with proven data. What is your opinion of the ctx 3030's ergonomics? Is it comfortable to beach hunt for 8 hrs with it? There're s9me going for 2k no tax.

[@harrysurtees8710]

@@Mizo476 I don't mind. I've been in the hospital or would have responded sooner. I am blown away by all the silver coins I've been digging with the Deus II that my NOX 800 passed over. I hunt mostly for silver coins, and the Deus II, in my opinion, is superior, by a long shot for finding silver coins. Some of the silver I've been digging has been over a foot deep. And a lot of copper pennies, including wheat cents. A lot of copper and silver, so much so that I almost don't believe myself. A bunch of times I said to myself, how could this silver coin be here, I know I passed my NOX 800 over it. The Deus II weighs one pound less than the NOX. At the beach, be prepared to go deep. It charges in just over three hours. It collapses shorter so it fits in the trunk of my car. It would not be fair to not give you things that I don't like. It's kind of hard to put on the charger, but not too hard. Where the control box connects to the shaft is its weak point. I bought an after-market connector and have not had a problem since. And if you hunt in the water, you have to connect a wire from the coil to the control box. So, whatever dislikes I have, are far outweighed by its ability to find good targets. Hope is does not confuse you any more.

[@robertbrenner6718]

@Russell Upsumgrub the Etrac is the predecessor to the CTX 3030. I have that one too. Excellent machine for sure.

[@JoJo-ps4ml]

The biggest problem I have with the newer "latest and greatest" detectors is that you have to be prepared to spend another 500 dollars on after market crap, just make them useful. Take my Minelab Equinox 800 for example. Please just take it.😂. It is Prone to leaking, wobbly shaft, screen protectors, cable protectors, aftermarket carbon fiber shafts...etc. It's insane. You would think Minelab would've taken care of some of that for you. I still own my White's MXT...It is a sorry sight to behold. It is Beat up like a tank after a major battle. But, it is still relevant today. It is my go to detector. Works flawlessly. Over the years I've owned JW fisher, Fisher Mscope, Minelab, White's, Garrett, Tesoro. I see todays metal detectors as just condensed, digitized, plasticky, waterproof versions of White's V3i machines.

[@truthministries77]

Is the mxt simultaneous multi frequency ?

[@DogtownTradingCo]

Excellent video Merrill. You're constantly analyzing, which is a very good thing. That seems to be one of your niches. Must be the educator in you. Whites was so far ahead of the curve at one point. Their V3i and VX3 were actually operating 3 frequencies at once, which they would compare and then tell you not only a vdi number, but also which frequency saw the target the best. The V3i also had what they called "polar plot" which is what XP seems to have grabbed for the Deus2, calling it "the xy graph." The Whites display was in color, where the XP is black & white. The biggest problem with the old V3i was that it was fairly complicated to use, and it was pretty chattery in hot ground. It also wasn't waterproof, which is almost a must have standard nowadays. Now that Garrett owns everything from Whites, let's see if they pick up the ball and run with it. A modernized, waterproof V3i with better stability would clear the field. Hopefully Garrett is listening......

[@pastp3805]

You missed the fact that you could adjust every feature including making it a single frequency detector! Garrett doesn't know what it has!

[@susantoker7254]

The big shift for detectors was going from analog (which works fine) to digital allowing faster processing and flexibility. As the chips and designs evolve (like phones) more and better software and electronics are added and better displays are possible. It still comes down to the knowledge of the detectorist and the luck of the swing (probably the most important)!

[@alfasud1972]

I don’t think digital machines allow faster processing. There are really fast analogue machines.

[@susantoker7254]

@@alfasud1972 I will not claim any expertise. I never had the privilege to try and analogue machine. Just formally got into the hobby 2 years ago and with the Nox 800 which teaches me new things all the time. So many of the conversations are about the newer machines. It would be fun to see a good analogue machine dectorist in action!

[@alfasud1972]

@@susantoker7254 some 20 year old tesoro’s are still very fast, and quite good for inbetween nails were depth is not number 1 priority. They stil produce analogue machines golden mask. The golden mask 4Pro is a good machine. And the 4D is running MF. Deeptech has got some great analogue machines also.

[@susantoker7254]

@@alfasud1972 Thank you! People have been detecting successfully for a long time. The wisest advice I learned from more experienced detectorists was to learn what your detector is telling you and listen. Respect to all detectors!

[@robertwiebler7470]

I have the Whites V3I, (4) DFX, XLT E-Series. I'll always keep using Whites.

[@johnramirez5032]

Thank you for this video. I have been a detectorist for over 40 years. The detectorist who is most successful is the one who gets out there and digs. Yes the right detector for the environment makes a huge difference but you still have to get out and enjoy the past time. Most targets like you said in the west coast are shallow. If you want depth a larger coil is important too in my opinion. I built my first detector and it was a beat frequency that fell in love with. It was more descriptive as far as the sound goes. Some detector just beep with a sound difference. To me that makes a big difference. Ive found lost items for people and even Used it at work. So get out there and dig ! You never know what you might find.

[@EdSZiomek]

Raw honesty, of sorts. $500 in coins, $7000 in gold, with 20+ detectors, over ?? 20 years? Hmmmmm. Did you make any one-of-a-kind recoveries? That is my goal, something that would change my life or encourage my grandsons to technify their lives, to upgrade their hopes and aspirations. Profit? Maybe yes or no, but the discoveries are what I hope for, touching the lives of someone who touched a coin, from 200 or 2000 years ago. That is the magic of detecting for me. Thank you for your honesty!

[@Buckleboy]

Amen. I’ve been a little miffed about folks slamming the F75 because it’s not “multi” frequency. Well, I’ve found some things with it 😂 And I don’t see any companies offering me a free $1600 upgrade 😂😂. The problems with this hobby are that 1. We can only dig what we dig once, with one detector, one time-and 2. That we will never know what we missed or didn’t dig. There’s a huge difference between a test garden where one knows where each item is buried and will sweep over it with the most favorable sweep speed, directly over the center of the target, and conditions outdoors where there is heavy iron, corn stalks, or just not overlapping swings well. Getting 16 inches on a coin doesn’t matter if the target respond is too poor or intermittent to justify digging. So we’re back to what you just said: get out and dig. ❤ Great video my friend.

[@wilsonrawlin8547]

F75 is a great machine and it doesn't matter what they say. Same with the Nokta Makro Gold Kruzer. It is outstanding and will detect super tiny gold. Honestly as small as pan pickers to 8 inches no problem.

[@MetalDetectingDonna]

@@wilsonrawlin8547 is the Makro the one that finds tiny gold? Thank you

[@MetalDetectingDonna]

Do you know if the Makro works well in salt water? Thank you again

[@wilsonrawlin8547]

@@MetalDetectingDonna Yes it will. Here's a great channel to see what it can do. www.youtube.com/@ChasingGoldAustralia

[@wilsonrawlin8547]

@@MetalDetectingDonna I haven't tried it yet, but from what I hear it doesn't do well in the ocean water. Damp Beach sand is no problem.

[@TerryKnipschield]

I applaud the White's people for being honest and up-front about their technology. Your clip clearly shows them describing TWO simultaneous frequencies, and then stating what they are! I'd like to see this honesty from ALL metal detector manufacturers.

[@ronpflugrath2712]

Repairs for xlt?

[@X-Marks_the_spot]

As a owner and big fan of Whites machines, it was very sad to see them go. I use the MXT All Pro and TDI SL to this day and still yet to see the big difference between new tech and old. As an avid user of the Equinox 800 and with multiple coils for all my machines, I can firmly say that its not that big of a difference from one to the next. @Merrill I'm not sure if you've ever used a MXT All Pro or TDI SL, but I'd love to see you swing some old tech and see how it handles NYC Lol. Tdi is a pi machine that's easy to set up with a coin program, and the MXT in relic mode iron I'd on is a killer ferrous non ferrous identifier. Thanks for the entertainment! And maybe one day if I can part with them lol I'll loan them out and give ya a run at the analog side of the matrix 😎

[@COUNTSLURPULA]

I have a White's Coin Master GT circa 2012ish. ❤ It!

[@ajmottola52]

I have a hard time watching how they were using a oscilloscope to analyze multi- frequency. When I was working R&D for General Dynamics Missile Division, we would use a frequency spectrum analyzer. Frequency spectrum analyzer is a broad band analyzer which will show all frequency being transmitted at the same time. Once we Identification what frequency are being transmitted, we would use the oscilloscope to analyze each signal.

[@vetdetect]

It’s all about location and knowing one’s detector. Doing some research has yielded my best finds. Gotta go to old places to find old things.

[@stephencurry599]

The spectrum was a great detector. Old now but I've recently used one and wasn't disappointed.

[@Afterburner]

I have several brands of detectors, but I am solidly in the Minelab camp. I have some of the newer detectors like the Vanquish and Equinox 600, but my three favorites to this day are my Explorer SE Pro, my old Sovereign and the Excalibur II. I can no longer justify the extreme costs with even the newer Minelab detector gear and am getting good results with the technology I have. As the movie Maverick said so well: "It's the pilot, not the plane" that reiterates that it is the person doing the flying, or detecting that matters, not the latest gadget or tech. I also note that there are many who go camping with all the latest technology bushcrafting companies can provide, often at extreme prices, and yet I learned from a generation who took what we had and made it work, often at a fraction of the price of today's overpriced camping technology. It really is about just getting out there to do that thing you love, and I love metal detecting.

[@MetalDetectingDonna]

Ditto! I love it too!

[@DonDufresne]

George Payne - Teknetics Mark 1. George innovated at Whites in early days and then founded Teknetics. Big step forward in performance 'back in the day.' Fascinating video. Thanks!

[@mkrayaries1280]

Thank you this has to be the most important educational clip I've seen yet

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Thank you!

[@williamkennedy8768]

Ya have the old whites idx pro when it said was 25cents it was still like the older ones still swing it

[@TERRYWIRT]

Same things different packages, more money bigger toys...I've had 4 dectors each one cost more than the last but each one has found wonderful things...and unless something big happens like able to totally discriminate out pull tabs and bottle caps I'll be staying right where I'm at ... Thanks and Happy New Year !

[@wilsonrawlin8547]

Exactly! Even the best still find you tabs and other junk just like the cheaper ones.

[@MetalDetectingDonna]

How great would that be?! Who would clean up all the trash? Lol

[@James-dtexTexas]

I got my first taste of metal detecting with the “ Tiny Tex “ ( child’s machine )made by D-Tex when I was 12 or so. I’m in my 60’s now. Just recently started again last year with the F-44 and the Simplex. Looking forward to getting a Legend. Thanks for sharing your time and videos. Love them ! Be blessed and stay safe. James

[@wilsonrawlin8547]

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!! I bought a Nokta Makro Gold Kruzer NIB for 50% of regular price. My main focus is Gold and secondary for relics/coins. Super happy with the performance and will find micro gold along with the BEST. ZERO problems digging coins, rings, relics, etc. I almost spent $1000 more to get pretty much what I now have. I'll add a saltwater compatible MD if I find I need to expand my search options.

[@aiumixteco]

Gracias, porque al ver tus videos evite comprarme un Xterra Pro y sigo usando mi clone chino del Teknectics G2 (lo malo es que no es impermeable). Este video me recuerda hace algunos años cuando pescaba blackbass, la mayoría de los señuelos que venden no pescan peces, pero si pescan muchos pescadores pura y dura mercadotecnia. Para mi la detección es un hobbie, pero ya no cometeré el error de gastar demasiado como cuando era pescador asiduo, varias cañas de 500 USD, lancha, motor de gasolina, motor electrico, sedal, infinidad de señuelos y anzuelos y al igual que la pesca la ecuación es: 30% las herramientas 30% el usuario y 40% el lugar o la suerte. Sin un buen lugar no capturas ningún pez o no sacas ninguna buena pieza en la detección, no creo tanto en la suerte pero hay gente que detecta poco y con un equipo muy básico y obtiene buenas piezas.

[@rodcoulter997]

Excellent documentary and analysis…done by someone with LOTS of real-time hands on experience, on multiple machines. Very informative…..A++

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Thank you

[@johnnyanglo6709]

Some may remember Minelab's ads for the CTX-3030 stating that its FBS and FBS2 technology transmits 28 frequencies from 1.5kHz to 100kHz to improve target ID, sensitivity, and detection depth. "Full Band Spectrum" FBS is really two frequencies, low and high. For the CTX, they are 3.125 kHz and 25.00 kHz (higher freq is the 8th harmonic). The advertising is deceptive but not incorrect. FBS sends out many harmonic waveforms but only captures those two frequencies to determine the target type. This is all that is actually needed. The high freq is best for low conductors, to force electrons to flow in a resistive non-ferrous target (to produce the necessary secondary magnetic field) such as native gold, nickel, stainless steel, and aluminum. The lower freq (3.125 kHz) does the job well enough on high conductors (silver, copper, 24K gold) which easily allow current to flow on their surface. And because the freq does not agitate iron/rust to produce a secondary magnetic field as well, it gives a cleaner signal. Some Iron targets (flat iron, sharp pointy iron nails) can produce eddies too and fool a detector into thinking the target has some non-ferrous qualities, which you don't want. Technically, ferrous reacts to the magnetic field from the detector by altering the electron spin angle to align like tiny compass filaments along the field lines. When the A/C current switches in the detector (which it does constantly, transmitting downward, then upward, then downward again many times per second) the iron domains relax and in doing so, they produce a temporary secondary magnetic field that disturbs the detector's receive coil. The field polarity of iron is different from non-ferrous, which the detector uses to distinguish the two apart (but it can become difficult to discern as ground minerals also react (e.g., wet salt and iron minerals in the soil). So, taken together, when analyzed, the detector can then determine if the target is ferrous or non-ferrous based on the target's reaction to the low and high frequencies (and also the train of long and short pulse lengths that help reveal the target's nature by probing a bit deeper into the metal with a longer pulse). Does FBS improve detection depth? Well, since only two frequencies are used, no not really. Probably just the opposite -- the weaker harmonic is likely to have somewhat less power than that produced by a single freq detector (again, depending on the ground attenuation which is related to transmit freq). Certainly, the 3.125 kHz freq (being low) is better suited to avoid attenuation by ground minerals than the higher freqs, which makes it deeper, all things being equal. Thus, one could say it improves depth over-against perhaps a detector using higher freqs, but there are other factors involved too. So, it shouldn't be shocking if Deus 2 uses only two freqs at a time: 7.35 kHz and 36.75 kHz (the higher freq is the 5th harmonic of the lower one) or 7.55 kHz and 22.75 kHz (the higher freq is the 3rd harmonic) or 4.45 kHz and 13.40 kHz (3rd harmonic again). The marketing department sells detectors to a point, but it is customer reviews that will make or break sales. So in the final analysis, slick marketing will lose (and hurts the brand in the long run). It is the knowledgeable assessment by the consumer that ultimately sells detectors, not the techy algorithms and modulations going on inside the detector.

[@vernthornblad1598]

You've hit your groove on this channel, Merrill. Congratulations. Keep it up. Fantastic content and presentation.

[@vernthornblad1598]

I think I'm going for a Deus 2 next. Want to have the versatility of Minelab and Deus.

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Much appreciated Vern!

[@steveb9270]

Here in Australia the only detectors you can run successfully for gold prospecting are the pulse induction mine lab or garret, due to the high mineralisation of our ground.

[@mkrayaries1280]

So gerett is good with gold so if I'm right my choices are garret fisher minelab

[@fritzfiedler1807]

Thanks for the useful information. I had the Spectrum, and the XLT and liked them quite a bit. I hated the DFX. Whites had some very good quiet, accurate detectors, that is for sure. Great video.

[@frankboet1]

"Just go out detect". Words of wisdom right there.

[@stevemutimer4531]

Dude! This is great! It's like a PBS documentary for metal detectorists. You should have your own live pledge drive, haha!

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Thank you!

[@digginholes]

Deep truth at 11:54 and on. Well done M!

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Thank you!

[@adalbertwilhelm8068]

The Fisher cz20 water machine was out in 1993 and ran on two frequencies' 5 and 15 it is a really good machine and I still use mine

[@briarmeadow]

Fisher CZ-6 and CZ-20 were early 90's. So was the original Minelab Sovereign XS

[@DaddyRobotX15]

as the shopper of my 1st ever detector,I will admit to being slightly overwhelmed by the products ,let alone it's technology I must learn , so your video here helped to verify something I was thinking already ....I don't need a pro detector in the states for discovering the hobby. I also learned a lot from this 🙏🏻⭐

[@dinodasbunce6224]

I started metal detecting in 1970 with a Jetco detector, don't remember the model. I used it for years. In 1987 I purchased a used Tesoro Golden Sabre. This detector doesn't have any display of any sort, you had to rely on an audio signal only. By that point in my life I had been a musician for over 30 years so my ear was fine tuned. I could out hunt all my detector buddies that had the newfangled detectors with gauges and displays by the different tones the Golden Sabre made. By those tones, I could identify metal type, depth, location etc. better than the new computerized machines. I feel like with the advent of computer circuitry that the art of metal detecting died.

[@StelarTheroc]

The era of the end of 90's and start of 2000 provide some of the best detectors...like explorer XS , the The Sov xs2apro great Tesoro and Whites fisher gold bug and more. I find today detectors are improving separation but nothing in going deeper but going out of control money wise

[@suggssecurity]

Merrill your awesome just facts with your knowledge is so cool and you put it out there to your viewers keep up the great work much appreciated

[@jonfranklin9361]

Great video! I was 24 in 2008, just bought my 1st adult detector. Whites DFX 300. I still have it, that baby took 8 AA batteries. Thanks for bringing up Good memories. Cheers 🍻

[@richd.3413]

I am still using my Fisher CZ5 with great success. I'm not buying another machine till this one breaks, been going strong for 20+ years

[@richd.3413]

My only complaint is rusty nails lol

[@tomtripptree5079]

You are doing it the right way. And you are probably ahead of most of us who keep on buying the latest machine to come on the market

[@BarberBobDetecting]

Cheers to another successful year of detecting - get out and enjoy!

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Cheers!!!

[@brandonrothwell1570]

I have the DFX I freaking love it okay back to the video

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

I just keep hearing about the the DFX and V3i !

[@gillessibilleau8461]

Very informative video! Thank you. Have Minelab 800 but preordered 900. It has just an extra level I want.

[@stevem7536]

I'm not sure if it was this one where you questioned putting 50% more power into the ground that I watched but I think it was. Power could be measured by an instant amount of amps given out but is usually measured by an amount of watts over time. Just a thought I had. If the equinox pulsed different frequencies for a period, then paused while it switched frequencies, then put another pulse out for a period, this might explain things. Let's say they are limited to a maximum power output of 1 watt. Because of the electronics they pulse 1 watt for 10 milliseconds, then have to wait another 10 ms to switch frequencies, then they pulse the next for 10 ms, and so one. Over 1 second you have half a second putting power out and half a second not. If they improved the electronic so it only took 5 ms to pause and switch frequencies then you now have 10 ms pulse, 5 ms pause to switch, 10 ms pulse, etc. Therefore over time you are pausing for half the time you were, resulting in an additional time sending a pulse over the second of 50%. No need to break the regulations, and no need to increase actual current, but over time 50% more power is going into the ground. The result of which is not greater depth but greater coverage.

[@creekgeek]

Nice video Merrill. A decent detector and the knowledge to use it will be more than enough most of the time.

[@darrellbrixey5341]

Awesome video Merrill, thank you

[@jb4496]

this is the best video you have put out thanks very much. trust me I have been detecting since 1979. I have owned many detectors. and for over 40 years remember every time a new machine came out. it was just a bit better not much. Some would have a 1/2 inch more depth but gave up on how stable it ran. thanks again. Great job.

[@anonymousamerican5676]

Once again,, thank you for sharing this information.... I believe it's inert , inside you, to educate others,, you just can't get away from it, no matter how hard you try. Keep up the good work 👏 and Happy New Year !

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Thank you and happy new year!!!

[@SGM97B]

Don't take this as criticism, but I laughed out loud when you (or your phone) used "inert" instead of "innate". I agree with you.

[@mowerdog]

I'm pretty sure I bought a Fisher CZ5 in 1995? Unbalanced and bulky but went deep. It liked deep iron running it hot just like machines today. I loved the analog meter too.

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

I am hoping that Fisher and Garrett can get back in the game! I was excited about the Impulse AQ. I dont think that was released yet!

[@pigeonbloodruby5330]

@@MetalDetectingNYC Fisher is still working on the Impulse AQ. They released a video 5 days ago. I plan to purchase one when it's released!! www.youtube.com/@fisherimpulseaq42 I also need the Fisher Impulse TF for the red dirt. I'm hoping that it too will have a good ferrous filter. I made up the name Impulse TF lol. Terra Firma.

[@hubsi5263]

@@pigeonbloodruby5330 Nowadays Fisher is owned by Bounty Hunter, isnt it?

[@pigeonbloodruby5330]

@@hubsi5263 First Texas owns Fisher, and Bounty hunter among others.

[@rawkinj6609]

Please keep these informative and entertainingly funny videos coming Merrill! I'm Loving it!

[@jaimechapa7828]

Merrell got to say this video should open plenty of treasure hunters eyes and minds. on what the detector to purchase and why! I myself started with Minelab sobren( MSP) then the Excalibur 2, then Equinox, now Manticore, striving to do more, find more coins , silver, gold, is not a option it's an obsession! Mr Merell your videos aren't made to like there mind blowing educational to all treasure hunters looking to better themselves , you shouldn't have any problems getting 1000 likes

[@jamesc1578]

My first detector was a Whites BFO machine. It was quickly named the wrist breaker due to the handle that you held. It had one knob that you turned to just hear a threshold.

[@stargazer279]

Hi Merrill, I have to say that i like your videos. You always give out a straight answer, no in between. I use a Vanquish 440, i am very satisfied with it. I have found a lot of pocket change, silver coins, gold and obviously some junk I am actually surprised to see how sensitive this metal detector is . Some of the targets were very tiny. I am considering getting a second metal detector such as the Equinox 800, but also thinking of building my own metal detector as i am a electronic engineer.

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Thank you!

[@jeffsmidwestgoldadventures4593]

As usual Merrill, that was a very informative and split up video explaining how old is been around for a while that’s very interesting. My metal detecting started out with an AT Pro and I was the quarter king at any baseball field and me and my buddy we would come home with $20-$30 of quarters in a day, which is great exercise if you think how many times you go down dig and come back up so I’ve always thought that metal detecting is not only great for the brain but great for the body who needs a gym when you can do this will take care and I hope you have a very successful 2023 bud and look forward to your videos. And yes I did give you a like and I will always give you a like your videos are very informative. Thank you out for now.

[@ericsmathe]

Merrill, your videos on detecting are the best on the internet. Hands down. I learn so much from them. Thank you so much. I'm curious how you approach a super-trashy site with a rich, early-1900s history where people used to congregate. There HAS to be a ton of silver and relics there. My girlfriend found a colonial shoe buckle amongst the trash. I'd love to talk to you about it, so as not to blow up the location. I friended you on Facebook awhile back. If there is a way to DM, I'd love to pick your brain some time. And mayhaps have you come up to Kingston to check it out. In any case, thank you so much for your time and dedication to the craft.

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Sure. Send me a message. I would start with a sniper coil! I love the Equinox 6 inch coil. It is a difference maker! There is also the work of removing the iron.

[@ericsmathe]

All that being said, I should mention that she found the buckle with her Simplex+, while my Equinox passed over it. Lol.

[@ericsmathe]

@@MetalDetectingNYC yeah man. I love the 6" coil. I use that in my back yard all the time. I'm in the process of getting all the nails and screws first. I found one 1918 Mercury so far and a few wheaties.

[@africo9104]

When Bruce mentioned that he starting out with finding land mines , it gave me a big fright. I'll be detecting in various part of Asia where there has been wars all over the place. Even tho I'm going to be mainly on the beaches, I never gave landmines a thought. Has anyone ever come across landmines ? And what would the Ping sound like ?

[@e.whawkins7211]

So run a Deus 2 now but I just started testing a Whites XLT let me tell you it's a badass machine I like it better than a Equinox 800.

[@rickvann3489]

Fisher CZ 3D is a duel frequency machine and has nickle moved over so it doesn't fall in the pull tab range. NASA Tom did a wonderful job with this machine highly overlooked. Top 5 of my 21 detectors owned... time to sale a few though.

[@alanhughes1262]

The gpx4500 is and was the best detector ever made still used by professional operators myself Inc.

[@adrianharris7127]

I must say I've have subscribed to your channel you are an inspiration to metal detecting great content and good reviews well done 👏

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Thank you Adrian!

[@skoomo9721]

Thank you for another great video! I learn something new each time I see one of your videos.

[@discovermetaldetecting]

When I first started metal detecting, the DFX was the machine to aspire to. I just couldn’t afford one! I remember the Mark Rowan video explaining the dual frequencies. From memory, he achieved this by using a “frequency harmonic” of either the 3 or the 15 KHz. This gathered much more data and increased target accuracy.

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

I want to try one now. I would be expecting slower processing and less separation but a highly capable detector.

[@discovermetaldetecting]

@@MetalDetectingNYC .....yeah....probably a bit slower but I guess you could adjust many of the settings to remove as much processing as possible. Maybe go all metal and just discriminate using tones. Put a DD coil on it and you’re good to go! Looking on EBay, people seem to want more money for obsolete detectors than brand new multi frequency ones! 😳

[@davidgonzales8148]

Ty for time and skills great watching your informatative videos

[@norbyx75]

Hi, I usually don't comment on your videos but I am a fathefull watcher and subsciber. After watching this last video I had to comment since you are spot on, on more than one argument. I have been metaldetecting for some time now, and I have tested most brands of the past and few of the present. Let me tell you one thing, it is a shame that Whites Metal Detectors went out of business. They where ahead of their time, I had most of the detectors they made, and the one I loved the most was the MXT300, single frequency and the easyest to operate metal detector in the world. That is the only one I regret selling. I had the DFX and the V3i as well. Over complicated metal detectors that worked well but way to complicated to be sure you where using the detector at is full potential. You never new if your settings where correct or not. Main problem with the DFX or V3i was not target ID or separation, that where superb, but depth was not too good. Now I own a Nokta Legend, and I am more than happy with it, BUT I also own a CHINESE CLONE of the Teknetics G2 and I paied $50 (discounted price) for it NEW in box. Tecnology has NO proportion to price. Yeah sure the G2 is a single frequency detector and wont work on the wet sand, but I could have bought more than a dozen detectors for the price of the Legend, and on land the difference is not all that great, as you say, 90% maybe even more of the performance of the legend I can get from the G2, now I might have to dig some more junk but I usually dig any repeatable steady signal, there is no detector that can 100% be sure you have a ring and not a bottle cap under the coil. Point is that we should stop looking for the perfect detector, there is no such thing, yet, and personally I would say that once you have found the detector that works for you in your soil (very important since all countries have different types of soil) stop changing machine and just go out and detect. It doesn't matter if you have a manticore, a deus II or what ever machine you own as long as it works out for you. Companies have to come out with something new otherwise they would stop selling and close their business. Have I seen new things in the last 10/15 years, not too many. Are metal detectors better now than 15 years ago, well maybe just a bit but still we keep digging junk..... Take care and keep up the videos....

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Thank you Norberto!

[@andreabboy]

Special video congratulations from Italy

[@bobo12055]

No mention of Dave Johnson or Fisher metal detectors. The CZ 5 was the first multi Frequency metal detector. Everything you're sayings about VLF muliti Frequency machines are down stream from them.

[@thomasstevenson9654]

I have a Equinox 800, but I still prefer to beach hunt with the Fisher CZ-21. I really wish you would take the time to experance the CZ-21, maybe, you'd be pleasantly suprised.

[@jeffhays1968]

I have a minelab 705 which is a single frequency machine which you change by changing coils. I only use it in the woods with a 3 KHZ, 15 inch coil. It's a killer on colonial silver and large cents.

[@claude5497]

no matter the bottle as long as you are drunk ... Happy New Year!

[@mrgreenswelding2853]

Yep we have some very hot ground here in Australia.

[@WingItWithEthan]

I like my fisher f22 it’s a great budget option in my opinion, wireless and fully waterproof would be nice in the future though

[@tonyhynes1938]

Go for the XP ORX less is more. As in $£. Outstanding machine for the price ✌️Great video. I find celtic gold sunbathing and hammered coins a inch below the surface. I rarely have to dig below 6 inches...

[@ausfox8794]

Well Merrill the old adage is true “Keep it simple” Thanks for your informative videos.

[@reneescouch9035]

Awesome video man!

[@jimhusselman4012]

Best time to use your metal detector is right after a light rain because it improves the signal range under ground as it conducts the signal farther down and i have done this with multiple detectors. Such as bounty hunter (top two detectors) fisher 3 different models, minelab 1 model, whites 1 model , Garrett 1 probably a couple off brand cheapies like radio shack that was given to me lol. And all of them detect deeper when the soil is damp or wet also keeping your coil flat with the couture of the ground but on soil 2 to 3 inches above and on sand that isn't rocky flat on the ground. Good hunting all

[@charlieschemmel122]

Yeah the dfx was my first detector then bought the nox 600 now the new nox 900 has the same vdi numbers as the dfx crazy

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Lol full circle! I like that Minelab stretched it!

[@TheJonesy555]

Great video. :) I detect ploughed land in the east of Britain. I switched from the etrac and T2 to the XP D1 years ago because of better performance in iron infested soil and better ergonomics (lighter and no headphone cable). I now have the D2, and in ploughed soil I do just as well in single frequency as 'FMF'. However, the D2 is deeper than the D1 in old pasture using its two frequencies so I'm very happy.

[@jimmymalone3494]

Great job Merrill It was some good knowledge on detecting thank you.I hope you have a great Year.

[@angelamillard6418]

Great info. Thanks Merrill ❤

[@MetalDetectingNYC]

Glad it was helpful!