We Built MAXIMUM COMPLEXITY Aircraft for Dogfighting!

[@DHDragon]

"It was at that moment that Scrapman learned why B-17s had ball turrets."

[@Altair1243WAR]

They didn't call them "flying fortresses" for no reason.

[@levievil9220]

Is that even possible in trail makers

[@crazybunnyproductions7287]

I suggest a Dogfight with perpendicular gravity. Instead of being pulled up or down, it's some arbitrary direction towards the horizon.

[@chickenychickens07]

That would need a mod

[@iCanOnlyHave30CharactersInMyNa]

That would be exactly the same as regular gravity except taking off which would be weird and their would be a wall to one side but you could easily fly away from it.

[@cadethedoggo]

@@iCanOnlyHave30CharactersInMyNanot exactly but only if Gravity direction doesn’t affect how lift works, and if it doesn’t then one direction will grant more lift than the other and thus it will be funky

[@rycochu117]

Have they done reversed gravity dog fights before? Is that actually* possible?

[@lousilver3646]

@@rycochu117 i think it would be the same as a normal dogfight but with flying upside down, an upside down map and annoying takeoff, im pretty sure about this and correct me if i’m wrong but that would make a good video

[@legomaster6913]

scrapman's tank going as fast as yazui's 800kg fighter is scary asf

[@bbittercoffee]

I was so sure Yzuei would be going supersonic but was surprised how slow he was going too

[@GummieI]

tbf, SM did have 2 freaking rocket boosters, and a shitton of space engine, which are the 2 strongest type of engines AFAIK

[@Fatgamerdawg]

Scrapman should have used giros

[@winnerwannabe9868]

Scrapman did say at the beginning that Yzuei was going to build something beautiful, and he was going to build something functional.

[@Nasafan2484]

@@winnerwannabe9868RCE would be proud of scrapman

[@Caikozn]

“I’m not as fast as I want too be”8:46 Causally going 300MPH

[@TylerDavidson-dp6ey]

Well it is only a big plane ...

[@DiamondPanda207]

If it ain’t supersonic it ain’t fast enough

[@Cole-nf2dx]

well yeah that’s slow for a plane,like commercial planes usually go 500mph

[@CausingBloom101]

​@@Cole-nf2dx Damn, and supersonic is 786mph

[@deninogamingmc4534]

​@@TylerDavidson-dp6eyIt is a BIG plane

[@ShadowDrakken]

I love the "loser makes a single change" rule :D I also think that'd make a fun evolution challenge. Instead of everyone taking the winner's build, they keep their own build but loser gets to make a single change or upgrade and winner has to use their unmodified build.

[@idk_mations]

This is an amazing idea!

[@juanelcrack1803]

Wasn't that already a video?

[@ShadowDrakken]

@@juanelcrack1803 not that I've seen, but I may have missed it? They've done a lot of evolution videos, but it's always just taking the winner and adding more stuff

[@lunar_moth777]

​@@ShadowDrakkenthey did do that scrap man won most of them so his didn't change much but kosmo's was almost completely different

[@guts60]

When building with shields, go into the shields’ advanced settings and select the option that has them off by default. Then build the vehicle, wait a sec, and then go back into build mode. Shields shouldn’t be in your way now

[@cephalopad]

I'm surprised that Scrapman didn't add gyros to his build for manoeuvrability redundancy.

[@4O4_notfound-m8g]

yep that would have given him the controlability he needed

[@mattvin2503]

Gyros might be not allowed for Aircraft fights, or atleast an unspoken rule like the shields usually are since you can basiclly cheese proper air controls with them very easely. Plus they can feel a bit jank to control compared to regular control surfaces

[@Magmatic801]

@@mattvin2503 im pretty sure yzuei was using gyros, he said in the vid

[@YourAnonymousRando]

I'm partial to RCS slides myself. Gyros need too much fiddling to not fight each other over multiple axis maneuvers. Might be easier in-game though, not sure. I don't have it myself yet.

[@moose5925]

@@YourAnonymousRando idc that its 5 months late but the gyros are super easy to alter to work exactly how you want them, and multiple axis maneuvers are a non-issue in trailmakers

[@justinpatterson5291]

Yazuzu had a hell of a fight this time. Though, it was a 3v1... Him vs Scrapman vs Himself (with rockets).

[@DaTjarhead]

yazuzuz. 😐

[@amgadpro]

That fight was so unfair for Yazuzu

[@justjay4586]

That's a 2 v 1 or 1 v 1 v 1, though

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

Poor yazuzu

[@koathekid8255]

@@justjay4586no Himself counts twice cause there’s himself and his own rockets that are both negatives

[@AWSOMESNAKES]

7:43 Hey Scrapman, if you set the shields to their ‘off by default’ setting, it will hide them during build mode. Edit: Also some sort of battle with rocket powered cars that are always active would be cool. That way, no breaks and chaos.

[@Vintenuthewizard]

i always love Yzuei and scrapman's dynamic with building, yzuei always builds some stylish looking and surprisingly effective builds, while scrapman is always "YOU FOOL, I HAVE 70 ALTERNATIVE SUPPORTS"

[@dayzer001]

YOU FOOL! I HAVE NUKES!

[@mr.dedede1324]

YOU'LL NEVER FIND WHICH ONE IS MY MAIN!

[@Vessekx]

@Scrapman, your issue with your tail being blown off is because the blocks are slightly sticking out of your shields. You tried shaping them too tightly.

[@WMSAG]

Scrap man: it's probably not going to have any form. (Proceeds to make one of the best custom cockpits I've ever seen with the rest of the plane looking really good)

[@DaTjarhead]

scrapman is like video game bosses which look terrifying but the player can defeat it

[@genericuser984]

like retro airplane shooters where the boss goes back and forth with some bullet-hell attack

[@agiliteka]

well he wasn't playing very well; it could've worked if he pulled vertical and extended more, using his power more than his manueverability...

[@lunar_moth777]

​@@agilitekaalso he was a little faster so he could've made distance and turn around

[@mordiaky]

remember the game where you are a turret on one side of the map and your opponent was a turret on the other side of the map, you had to adjust your angle and take one shot at a time and then re-adjust to try and knock your opponent out. Each round you have a choice to either move your turret or shoot, you could always adjust angle in the fire stage. You guys should try a challenge like this if it can be done.

[@GetMicrowaved]

shell shock?

[@JackKryder]

They already have with mortar trucks.

[@theoseym1368]

Long range targeting fights where both of them must fire at each other from far away using the new weapons in multiple environments. One on land, one underwater, one in the sky, and the last one in space.

[@Jay-h8c]

She’ll shock

[@dev0nklein]

This is basically the Duality of trailmaker builders

[@briishcabbage568]

You havent done anything with submarines lately, that could be fun.

[@noro_shinigami]

max complexity sub battle? :))

[@jocosesonata]

Submarine hide and seek. 1 big predator vs 3 small agile fishes. Ocean map, of course.

[@MageSkeleton]

That was fun to watch, it was a literal boss fight and Scrapman was the boss. There should be a rule though, no "levitating" stuff. Only aerodynamics.

[@1987nightrap]

"Yeah we got power" explodes immediately

[@ragingstorm_15]

I think what happened with the wing damage was as they passed, yzuei fired a rocket inside of his shields and it hit the wing.

[@mrjaku633]

That was such a fun challenge, not only was it form vs function, but also it felt like a david vs goliath boss fight, very fun video!

[@DETHdressedInRED]

I love this game, both watching you guys and playing it. It NEVER gets old.

[@riccardopetrina4212]

What about involution battle with land vehicles, where you start at max complexity but each round you reduce the complexity by 20%, not the block count. Meaning you can rearrange the entire build however you want, in addition you are allowed to switch any block with any other as long as they have the same complexity (meaning you can't take 3 blocks away for a shield etc.) or you can break the rules but you get a penalty : your total block count is reduced by 10%. So you can literally trade off between agility and tank-iness.

[@pcenero]

This is the most Ace Combat-esque battle I've ever seen you guys play this game yet lmao.

[@SoupRoutine]

I'd like to see this challenge translated to ground vehicles. It would be cool to see a couple massive super tanks do battle.

[@theminerboy5694]

Yesss and boats too.

[@BreadthunderOrignal]

That Dassault Rafale is incredible, a fine piece of French Engineering.

[@ZTRCTGuy]

Yzuei manages to hit himself, forgets about energy shields and spends an awful lot of complexity in the design instead of function and still manages to win more.

[@1stinAlice]

I suggest the same thing but with watercrafts or vessels instead

[@hothungryentry]

You should do a battle but every round you have to remove/replace blocks with a mire restricted selection!

[@leroyjenkinsreturns]

Mire?

[@5peciesunkn0wn]

They meant more.

[@TinaGloria2012]

You guys should do a dog fight of max complexity again but this time build each other's crafts, and put in one hidden sabotage on a random button that *might* get pressed during a battle.

[@BoneKrusher]

30:27 you can see just barely the tip of the tails sticking out. I'm pretty sure what happened was it hit the exposed tail. The rocket explosion then went through the energy shield. Since it technically didn't hit a shield space. The shield fields were too close to the aircraft. I think the explosion splash damage also might just go through it as well.

[@SuperlexPlays]

*You have me inspired to start making vids. Much love and major props to you* Scapman! 😘

[@roelieboy204]

Thanks for doing a version of my no restrictions battle!

[@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire]

Yzuei literally making a Eurofighter replica in trailmakers, what a legend.

[@rebel6301]

one of my favourite aircraft tbh

[@Wouizy]

European delta wings are the best !! (Rafale for me)

[@JustAMuffin.]

If you wanna get rid of shields and the builder, just change it to off by default and you won’t be able to see it, but make sure to turn it back on by default before flying

[@EpsilonRosePersonal]

How about a sky fortress vs a supersonic fighter? The sky fortress is required to use max complexity and has a speed limit, while the fighter must break the sound barrier, but has a complexity limit.

[@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning]

Possible idea: A Space Invaders-like fight where one Player fights in a Space Invaders-like Ground Vehicle that fires only into the Sky vs a sorta "Boss Space Invader" controlled by another Player and Logic'd Gimball Jets that bombs into the ground trying to defeat the Human Defender to open the way for Alien Invasion. :) (Guess losing over a Trillion Invaders to far fewer numbers of Defenders would get through to the Aliens that raw numbers wouldn't be enough eventually! ;P )

[@samael335]

You used SPACESHIP engines on a BIPLANE. The Wright brothers would be so jealous. And confused

[@juneBug412]

i think what makes the shields so unreliable is like, how fast you're both going. in all the videos i've watched, shields always seem to stop working properly when either the user or the projectile is goin at a certain speed. somethin about goin too fast makes projectiles seem to sometimes not register that they've gone past a shield

[@DanyF02]

7:40 You can turn them off, just gotta remember to turn them back on when you're done. Btw I'm surprised you didn't consider putting any of your guns pointed backwards in such a tanky sluggish plane(on 1st iteration anyway), or to use gyro's to assist maneuvering.

[@AgentFlamezGamez]

You should totally do max complexity tanks. I think that would be fun to watch.

[@maunewty]

You could always cut your throttle and pull back on your pitch and counter your yaw and roll to slow down and peel behind your pursuer. once you fall, you can go full throttle for a chase or keep a slow controlled decent to aim at the attacker

[@LettuceGayming]

And this is why non forward facing gunners are nice to have on heavy aircraft

[@silaspostma1496]

"I think I needed that" amazing last words

[@vertech2589]

Hoping this will be a reoccurring theme in the future

[@princeinpve]

20:43 **Casually battling** 20:47 **Eurofighter Typhoon becomes Israeli F-15 Eagle** 23:02 **Eurofighter Typhoon becomes more like Israeli F-15 Eagle**

[@lewi3xclusive95]

3:40 I’ve built stuff visually really small a couple of times at max complexity

[@The_ChillSkeletonwithGlasses]

Literally the video: “ it’s not me versus you, it’s how long you can survive”

[@hieronymusnervig8712]

And yet again you guys prove that turn rate is the most valuable stat in a dogfight. Hence my proposition: dog fights, but you can only fire your weapons after not turning for 1 second.

[@BecauseIllNeverBeHim]

22:00 The world to the funny painter man during ww2

[@dompan9169]

What about a lowest possible complexity build? You can keep track of the complexity by adding a block of high complexity parts that you delete once you’re done building.

[@carterstrick1020]

20:18 blaster can go though Sheild but do less damage

[@peterreedstrom2027]

I think the true optimal strategy for this would be a super fast rocket plane with frontal shields. Jet by, launch rockets, run away for shields and rockets to recharge, come back.

[@jasonvorhees2109]

I would suggest on the next "bomber" type build to put some separately controlled guns sideways and some backwards in order to cover a loss ov maneuverability. A typical Bomber design usually sports a tail gunner and two side gunners

[@zaflowgalactic]

You guys should try Space Engineers! It's like this game but for adults, and there is no edge of the map! :)

[@blackoak4978]

You should have put the emp's on the same trigger as your regular guns specifically to avoid forgetting about them, but also to reduce how much you needed to think about during the battle. But DAMN his plane was dense!

[@notthatbad42]

I need this to be a series!

[@BlocksCrafterYT]

7:40 you cann disable the shield in build editor by just disabling the "start on" option. Then you just have to enable them manualy when spawning or if your finished building enable the "Start on" option again

[@dragon-ui5ow]

Here's a ideal for a video, underwater to air combat vehicles

[@ruthrau8970]

-Scrapman makes a absolute monstrosity of an aircraft -Yzuei makes an aircraft that's basically a typhoon 😂

[@remlydunn4693]

i recommend a dog fight but you switch bettween three planes every 30-50 seconds you switch mid air .

[@selenefrost6267]

if scrapman had just realized he could fly straight up and stall out

[@DE0.01]

I made a max complexity bomber that breaks the sound, frames, and how the game calculates it's physics.

[@syedahmedaidan4644]

Hey i think that you should do this in space because i think it will be alot of fun

[@ironmaiden3166]

Video idea: emp detatchable blimps (yes I'm back for day 4) Or double complexity (using complexity mod) rolling fortresses

[@samisalama3033]

I haven't watched your channel on years, it has gotten better.

[@Lynxmountain]

you should try putting backwards facing weapons to hit people chasing you. edit: nvm you just did that.

[@valdenjr713]

This but with tanks would be crazy

[@Jesse-zk9ge]

Pretty cool battle, although if I was designing a overpowered vehicle.🤔 I would have the cockpit in the center surrounded by onion layers. So will the first layers would be just regular shielding, I would might have some logic to control guns that lay between each layer. Like when one layer gets removed the logic activates another layer of more stronger guns which gets exposed, I would probably include energy shields in the process the place between the layers of regular shielding and the guns. Another words kind of a flying immovable fort. Which I think would kind of cool. Battling it out in 2 drifting overpowered Castles in the Sky. Create Hayao miyazaki's Castle in the Sky.

[@Jack_Wolfe]

32:48 I found while playing with the shields, the tighter they are the less effective they are, they need about 4 blocks or more from any part to stop damage.

[@Interweblurker]

I bet if you had gyros scrap man, your lift and thrust wouldve provided enough for full gyro control!

[@GetMicrowaved]

I remember suggesting this. Great to see a video on it.Haven't yet watched it.Hope it will be good

[@illuminatiguy375]

You should do a battle where you each ban different blocks until the planers don’t function

[@StarWarsExpert_]

Really enjoyed this episode! 29:26 Well, your still flying half a ship.

[@floralbrake]

Could you try replicating the command and conquer apocalypse tank? It’d be interesting to see it recreated

[@tymonkulik8820]

Here are 2 ideas for a video 1: a plane but it is asymetric 2: all in vehicule i mean a plane, car, boat, sub but its 1 vehicule

[@Xxsebdog]

I would suggest adding water jets to make it so you can’t lose to the water

[@calmpuppy1281]

You guys should do max complexity in the space sector next because I've realized you guys have rarely gone in the space sector.

[@harleyhart1497]

Overpowered submarine battle in the highseas map

[@noomrm73]

I love how scrapman just body slams yzuei

[@bumbleandsimba]

6:58 404 complexity not found

[@Calllack.]

He should’ve made like, a b-29 bomber gun system with some all over for most Defence and good offense

[@zyanidwarfare5634]

Scrap could have connected the tips of the top and bottom wings to prevent the cataclysmic failure and loss of guns easily… Because then youd need to destroy both wings on one side and at that point he’d be screwed anyways

[@KrazeGaming_]

Keep up the good work, Scrap!

[@Avarage_brawlstars-player.]

Scrap: How much firepower I can fit in this thing Yzuei: how much detail I can put in this thing

[@Unknowntraveler302]

Yuzei casually making a eurofighter typhoon

[@OnyxBMW]

Reminder that in air combat, the most important thing is to have any maneuvering advantage, be it speed or turning ability, and then to exploit that. If you're faster, go high and force them to follow, bleeding energy. If you can turn better, do snap turns and go for snap shots. You want to lure the enemy into your advantaged area and punish them for taking the bait. Big and slow's only advantage is being a porcupine, meaning aiming guns in every direction and punish them for being near you. Rearward facing guns are always the best when you can keep them behind you. The best strategy you can have, however, is being extremely fast. Since the fastest plane can always, always control the terms of the fight. Climb up into the sky and leave them in the dust, escape at mach speed. Doesn't matter. Being fast is king, but smart play can counter a fast opponent.

[@emillasota4549]

great video like always but I have a suggestion for whenever you do dogfights. I think at the end of every dogfight you should swap builds and have a fight like that

[@adrianbowen9357]

I've got a few suggestions: 1. Build challenge (on the ground) where the only way to turn is using steering servos - no hinges 2. Ground OP battle - like the Blimp one, one person has a big tank/vehicle and others build little "raiders" to stop the big one from getting somewhere I have built an "OP Delivery Truck" and uploaded it to the workshop if you'd like some inspiration.

[@gamerkid2707]

If these guys wanted to they could design working military vehicles for the Air Force and be the best at it lol

[@DanielBoyMan1]

It would be dope to see Scrap, Kan, Moonbo, Kosmo, and Yzuei have a Transforming Bot Battle (Transformers for short) with no block limit and no power core limit but a 25 power core WEAPON limit. (As in only 25 power corea for weapons)

[@volcano.mitchell]

When i saw scapmans plane I knew yuzei would get vaporized 💀

[@amgadpro]

Idk if you spelled Yzuei correctly

[@Jayson_Tatum]

Yzuei actually spells it incorrectly lol ​@@amgadpro

[@im.not_kzkz]

Well yzuei won

[@waltergerling7866]

You should do a plane fight, but here’s the catch, no guns. Try to beat the other players without taking yourself down first. 10 power cores, 200 blocks. Who will win >:)

[@mrkened2]

Bro straight up build a F-39 GRIPEN

[@blackviper713]

other versions of maximum complexity challenges might be cool to see

[@BlocksCrafterYT]

7:40 you can actualy turn off the shields in build mode by disabling the active on start option. You just have to turn them on manualy or if you're finished building turn it back on

[@enderking5220]

y'know what could've been really handy there from round one? backwards facing guns. ah thar we go

[@James_Kosmo]

I think that i have an actually good video idea. What if you put all the parts (except the important ones) in a wheel and for each player a certain number of parts get "banned" randomly. And you just re-roll and add more and more banned items or you start over again with new banned parts or maybe you could start with almost everything banned and then unbann randomly. I think that that would be cool. Anyhow i've been watching you for a while and you are one of my favorite yters to watch!

[@D34c7]

Must be hard to build these things 😮

[@bossSHREDDER210]

when you were building i was saying to myself "i would be throwing miniguns or some bullet type on the back there to shoot him when hes behind you" because you werent using physical bullet guns so you could easily have trail turrets to get him off you and leave an opening for your main arsenal

[@loveyourwaifu1035]

i'd honestly love to compete in a challenge like this with scrapman and yzuei. i'm still learning on how to record and get vireo's going. but i'll start making trailmakers vids soon and have some cool tips, tricks and strategies for a 700 comp dogfight challenge

[@jionixel1530]

Good luck, mate. We need all the trailmakers KZbinrs we can get.

[@loveyourwaifu1035]

@@jionixel1530 a few of my builds have recently been showcased by little corndogs, but once i have time i'll look for a decent editing software and start to make some things