FORMATION DOGFIGHTING! Controlling 3 Planes at Once!

[@aGoshDarnTravesty]

Despite it's issues, the little bit of imperfect wobble helps to sell the effect. If everything was perfectly, rigidly locked together, it would look less like independent ships.

[@CameronDavidson-rk7xr]

Absolutely

[@9tr0n]

in real life formation flying would be pretty much rigid

[@Jayden-hl2qd]

​@@9tr0nno it looks that way from the ground but there are still some very noticable differences when you are in the air

[@Vykk_Draygo]

@@Jayden-hl2qd Which looks nothing like randomly wobbling around the lead plane.

[@justinpatterson5291]

Triangles... Once again, wedge gang shows its prowess.

[@nulledge5511]

Wedge gang for life!

[@notthatbad42]

is it me or has scrapman being mentioning wedge gang less and less lately?

[@gergelyracz8240]

Yeah, triangles are a very strong and stable shape in nature and physics...

[@Armoured-Pizza-Carrier]

@@notthatbad42He was threatened by the square mafia

[@Liam-yf7sl]

#wedgegang #WEDGEGANG!

[@pum9554]

Now you have to do this in space.

[@TupperGamer_90]

agree

[@DiamondPanda207]

And they must be starwars ships, surprised neither of them tried making a tie fighter squadron

[@JoeMama-me5wp]

TIE FIGHTERS!!!

[@pedrim5969]

Pod spscers

[@RemyTheRetriever]

Let’s get this comment 100 likes

[@Astrolex12]

Scrapman: "wooaaah triangles work!!" Every RCE viewer: *facepalm* "FINALLY!"

[@cynohammond-mw3ow]

You don’t need to call me out

[@TheCodyCZ]

Only architect deals in abstract shapes :D triangles for the win :D

[@London_Prime]

Why am I in this group.

[@duskblau486]

Just remember... the 'strongest shape' is still the best!

[@ElderDogg]

🤣🤣

[@D32L14N]

6:40 I think it's because you have the front of the planes attached to the tail of the first one, and when they try to pitch up it is also pushing the tail of the first one up

[@thatonecarguy_bg2701]

Now use this to attack a ship. Wait No A FLEET OF SHIPS

[@Baller-guy]

Genuis

[@Liam-yf7sl]

Wow

[@FlyingNoodle554]

@@Liam-yf7slthank you for the insight

[@zed12-ui4jy]

What about a cargo plane with a squadron of fighters escorting it (linked to the cargo plane by power couplings.)

[@potato_number_88]

Yo the fleet of ships should be connected and the first ship should be the only one with the ability to drive, but the other ships have people and that fleet fights scrapman and his friends.

[@anthonystallworth1406]

Evolution battle with this concept would be fire

[@Sandsturmer]

i can't believe i've been with you since 100k subscribers, and now you're at almost a million. Keep up the great work scrap, you're still entertaining after all this time.

[@Zane12ai]

Ha rookie. Been arround sense 5,000

[@sleep_deprived_stormworker]

@@Zane12ai and yet in another reply you said to not show off to strangers, hm?

[@SD_VREAL]

@@Zane12aiyou’re showing off…..you just said not to show of bozo

[@HoldingThisHandle]

@@sleep_deprived_stormworkerstalking lol

[@TupperGamer_90]

17:32 "It's like a reversed pod racer."

[@JustAWildMTTC]

Well actually it's flying 🤓☝️

[@Scorpbot]

Shut up ​@@JustAWildMTTC

[@Gidagedigidaniga]

Well actually I'm a heterosexual 🤫🧏‍♂️🗿

[@TupperGamer_90]

AYO WHAT@@Gidagedigidaniga

[@TupperGamer_90]

so now it's flying, @@JustAWildMTTC

[@Jeljel-nh6fs]

The villager edits are so funny.

[@SoupRoutine]

I still want to see a 2v2 race where each member of the team is controlling a different vehicle but they're tied together with the power couplings. I believe the term is called a chain race, or something like that. Oh and everyone has to build their own vehicle for the challenge without really communicating with their partner, so there's a chance that the vehicles perform wildly different.

[@NaisanSama]

Kinda like NASCAR where they push each other?

[@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger]

Similar to the newer videos

[@Zane12ai]

First video idea of the day, weaponizing the power coupling.

[@CameronDavidson-rk7xr]

He kind of did in one of the test videos. He made a whip and smacked stuff with it

[@Tanari-alsotanari]

I made a whip with it in my supersonic hover train

[@Zane12ai]

​@@CameronDavidson-rk7xr There's a difference between a test and a dedicated weapon

[@Zane12ai]

​@@Tanari-alsotanari I made a neutron bomb with them, but you did care right? It's important to keep in mind, in general people don't know who you are unless they are your friends, and thus have no reason to care about your accomplishments. Don't waste your energy trying to show off to strangers, it good to be proud of your creations but you should know where to draw the line. Anyways, cool.

[@Tanari-alsotanari]

@@Zane12ai huh?

[@DiogeneDeSin0pe]

I usually skip the builds, but had to watch it all this time. Amazing build.

[@NovaPlays12]

I have an idea, Get 3 people in Trailmakers, 1 person with a light tank, (9 movement power cores 100 blocks and 3 firepower power cores.) 1 person with a medium tank, (8 movement power cores 150 blocks and 4 firepower cores.) and 1 person in a heavy tank, (6 movement cores 200 blocks and 6 firepower power cores.) it would be interesting to see if one is by far more or less powerful... Maybe a good multiplayer Monday?

[@L3editoryippee]

Yzuei: the guy who makes it look good but works bad Scrapman: the guy who doesn’t makes it look good but works perfectly

[@benditogames]

i think your idea of having different controls for each plane was the best decision because they get out of sync once they start getting damaged

[@avicennaren1053]

Wonder if a formation tank/sub battle would be a good idea

[@griffin_the_hybrid]

sounds like a tank fleet is in order XD

[@NaisanSama]

Command and conquer or smthn

[@DaTjarhead]

bruh the villager noises.

[@TupperGamer_90]

lol i didn't notice that the first time i watched this video

[@im.not_kzkz]

So you watched it twice in 60min when the video was uploaded 1hr ago show me how to time travel

[@SkidrowTheThird]

Time stamps, people... share the time stamps! 😕 update: Found it! 6:13 😁

[@hiimapenguin]

​@@im.not_kzkz it's a 30 minute video, it's possible

[@im.not_kzkz]

​@@hiimapenguin*31.35min but when I saw this comment the video was 58min old

[@mme.veronica735]

Challenge Suggestion (Day 5 i think) Broadside Challenge: Build dogfighting planes, however your weapons must be facing sideways. Bonus challenge is using gunpowder canons

[@wasd345k]

I just discovered this channel ! Hope you reach 1 mil you deserve it

[@aidenarts3252]

"It works! Still going to shot myself tho" scrapman 2024

[@JamesSmith-e8o]

When using mini guns, scrapman's planes resemble A-10s

[@roccov3614]

Let's go, wedges gang! Diamonds like 2D wedges, right?

[@adamarcher1814]

( future video idea) 7:47 .The way the couplers moved. it kinda resembled a bird flapping wings. maybe there could be a way to make a bird. using the couplers

[@Foxdog199]

I think a great idea for a video would be invisible jousting where you have power couplers set to invisible and have dynamite on your vehicle and you need to blow up the other person but you can’t see what’s happening until someone explodes

[@cmr2004]

Hey Scrapman here is a fun idea instead of cuplers use remote control using glitch ox gate and make a delay like .1 or .01 or something and do a battle the delay is to make sure not to crash into your own squad but not strong enough to remove it completely

[@pjamestx]

Great idea, really liked this one and the formation flying looked really cool!

[@aballisticninja29]

Helicopters with floating propeller blades using the power couplings would be awesome to see!

[@philash824]

18:43 As someone from the uk I obviously want the red arrows to win, but unfortunately I think scrapmans build is superior

[@Filip-uc2pe]

Video Idea: Make a SLINGSHOT with the power connections and suspension :D like so scrapman sees it! 👇

[@turboswim]

Wonder how the couplings would affect the space train. Also need an add one vehicle every round challenge with the couplings.

[@arnelilleseter4755]

You need to do this. 2v2 combat. One towing the other with the power coupling (low strenght so it acts more like a rope). The one being towed can not have any propulsion, and the one towing can not have any weapons. Win by destroying the opposing team or cutting the connection between them. You can use cars, planes or boats.

[@JustinCompton-ye5jb]

7:55, now's not the time for practicing singing!

[@TheWokOfficial]

Day 60 of asking scrapman to do a dogfight using snowball launchers as weapons

[@Cj_The_Dj1]

Yes

[@Mad_Max1069]

Make a glider but the controls are moved by using pistons, rotating servoes, and couplers to manually move the controls like the wright brothers. All controls have to be powered by something on or near the cockpit

[@notthatbad42]

yes! this sounded like a great idea when i saw it, very happy you did it👍

[@deepfriedcapybara]

honestly, independent controls is extremely useful because aslong as the plane your in doesnt break you still have full control. the other 2 planes could be gone but youll still have controllability to save yourself

[@kashyaptandel4678]

I remember seeing this suggestion in comments, congratulations for getting noticed

[@nelsondevlogger4274]

I’m you’re first comment 🙌

[@jarrettgasparini5586]

This would be cool with the transformation feature where you make a small power core creation and each time you get destroyed you respaen eith the next creation that has more and more complex creations so hopefully by the end most people will be in the best creation

[@alphaskullcralwer5261]

imagine this but its a team game where one pilot cockpit controls weponds , thrust , and pitch an roll

[@DracoJ]

Suggestion: swarms. Build a flying creation with detachable mini-missiles. Or A flying creation with a creation homing missiles Or A swarm of small missiles that operate like a mobile cloud. Is it possible? Idk.

[@TheFirstPotato]

I would have tested out having the back planes on a slight delay for their inputs to see if that fixed the wobble, since they are at the back of the formation and are supposed to be following the front.

[@st_ishan_will_help]

6:12 villager mode activated.

[@haydenwill3463]

I’ve been waiting for his version

[@StarWarsExpert_]

21:25 why is the aiming system of Trailmakers so bad, that it shoots into the center of mass instead of the actual parts of the planes?

[@35manning]

What you should have done is set to the power couplers nose to tail with three planes in a straight line and hinges on toggles for left and right echelon. You can take off and manoeuvre in a trail formation, switch to left echelon for shooting to the left and right echelon for shooting to the right.

[@griffin_the_hybrid]

use this formation idea but with cars, do a convoy style car with attackers trying to stop the convoy from reaching the end (airborne map)

[@demonsandroses9867]

what could fix most of the issues with pitch and having controllability on each plane still for pitch and roll would be changing the attachment of the flex put a tube on each side underneath the front to the same place on the back planes and doing that same thing with the back so youd have four flex total but the connections would make it more stables and keep all planes in line regardless of pitch or roll (no more flapping like a bird)

[@Someguy530-h1y]

POWER COUPLER TANK TRAILS

[@Mwb_official]

Good morning scrapman, i already know its going to be a great video like always

[@Lady_Luna]

The pitch “fail” turned it into the bee plane meme 😂

[@kbomb2788]

6:05! good morning scrap man

[@andimunasira8260]

this aint morning

[@DaTjarhead]

it evening for me. he record like three days before right?.idk

[@L3editoryippee]

Wedges has been evolved into one build multiples

[@Berilaco]

You guys should try making dune ornithopters and then fight against eachother with them

[@ZaydeStorm]

You could have added power couplers connecting the main wings of the 2 back aircraft (10:58). Or a power coupler extending from the central aircraft to the power couplers connecting the back of the 2 rear aircraft. There are a number of solutions to the stability problem I think, you just gotta look for possible connection points. Still, the triangle (10:30) was actually one of the better ones. Triangles are geometrically one of the strongest shapes.

[@kevinkhouri8272]

I hope squadron fights become a trend on servers! Awesome idea thanks Scrapman:)

[@Victini-Shiny]

"I found the secret, but Ii still think I'll shoot my self tho"

[@XPLOR8-MUSIC]

1 you could of used Gyros to stabilize the spares 2 British red arrows 👌

[@enigmaticrage812]

Your editor did you dirty XD I cant ever unsee scrapman as a villager now

[@XPLOR8-MUSIC]

Also i realised that the reason why its hard to get a good shot is because the centre of mass was in between the planes!

[@Lever200]

i have been mourning for a new dogfight video and this one was AMAZING keep it up!

[@Vykk_Draygo]

I don't think mourning means what you think it means.

[@nikodemprymaczek1962]

I think you should do a spider web with those And maybe by applying pressure you could curve it end You should also try to make a slingshot.

[@1MBStudios]

@24:21 "I feel so floppy now. Do you feel floppy compared to before?" -Scrapman 2024

[@tjgrant1324]

Mech fights with the cables as the arms and they walk if you can

[@davidcanoy8579]

The flex when you pitch up is g force. Pulling -g has a 1g delay and therefore is less immediate acting to flex the wing(planes)

[@ShawnF6FHellcat]

That went way smoother than I thought it would.

[@Pystro]

Oh, you "cheated" on the formation flight. I thought this was a build challenge video. I.e. that you had found a way to "remote control" 3 fully separated planes at once. Can you "remote control" parts of the "same" creation after detaching them with decouplers? Because if you can, then controlling 2 or 3 separate planes should totally be possible. (In theory) you'd just have to build them exactly identical so that they react to the shared inputs in exactly the same way, and use sensors to cancel out any drift.

[@DavidVYoutube]

same issue you had with the rope bridge, you need "ropes" going the other way too, make a grid. you have support left to right, but not forwards to back, no wonder it flexes front to back

[@theinfernollama8564]

Helicopter formation could be interesting

[@logandonald]

Could you make an ornathopter type vehicle with the power couplers

[@TwanPonte]

Power couplers on top of the tails in between the back planes so if 1 gets to flex the other needs to become shorter or longer. Wich will ofcourse increase wobble resistance

[@spencerkatty]

This was cool! I'd love to see some sort of melee version of this where you are actually trying to only break the (invisible) couplings - sort of like a red rover game.

[@chilldude93]

Has melee dog fighting been done yet...? Would be interesting to see the redundancies to keep yourself in the air while using yourself to take down your opponent

[@cssavvy0351]

Kudos to your editor hahaha the villager edit was hysterical 🤣

[@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning]

Like a sneak peek at the potential challenges of making Ship Shooter-like 'Floating/Hovering support Gun Drones'...

[@teachme5334]

this challenge with a lot more people is gonna be amazing.

[@benschiller8735]

I had an interesting idea for a challenge with the power couplings: build some arresting cables, set them up on the carrier and try landing with a plane that has an arresting hook

[@generalhux1818]

this, but someone different builds the plane in front. EG: you build lead plane, Yuzei builds two following planes. another team builds another squad, and fight! also, I'd love to see you try to make a formation with 5 planes, or more. bonus points if the formation is 3D.

[@kevcas9602]

you should play island of war again. you played that a long time ago, but now its out of early acces

[@danielgrayson5947]

I wonder if the sensors can detect the invisible connectors… if they can, you could use logic to change its control schemes depending on which planes are remaining. I know it’d be hard and complicated to do, but it’d be suuuupper cool to see. Edit* I just realized you don’t even need sensors, you just need logic gates that power into each other in each plane that when each plane is destroyed, they change the controls.

[@Yoyo1029x]

11:51 should connect extra couplers from the outer wings of formation planes to the main plane might help stabilit

[@GuilhermeSantos-uz8jd]

The problem is: when you pitch, the front of the plans goes up, and the back of the plane initially goes down. This way, when you conect the tail of the front plane with the nose of the back planes, you cause wave effect. You need to conect front to front in order to make the wabble better

[@Dwz800]

@ScrapMan Your pitch trouble may come from the connection. The front plane wants to pitch up and therefor the tail goes down (rotation around centre of mass). So when the first plane pitches, the back planes's noses are pressed down. So the backplanes need to pitch but with a downwards nose. Which may cause the problem. I wonder if the problem will be fixed if you would use 3 identical planes (for pitch) but connected front to front. Or a coupler in the centre of mass. Although I wonder about your opinion on this because you and Yzuei both had the same problem.

[@MaoWRLD]

The fact the building took up over half the video shows how difficult these can be

[@jetgaming5633]

i was drinking my coffee and then i glanced at his webcam and that villager caught me off guard so hard that i almost spit out my coffee

[@zacharybrendlen9018]

Here's my idea. You have these, but now you and the guys each make a "bomber group" (4 bigger planes in a diamond formation with loads of weapons) player that does the most laps and bomb drops at target area is the winner

[@_M.T.O_]

try making a hydrofoil where the water fins are separeted from the boat with invisible cables. (sry for my english)

[@liamtgreat]

The English is fine

[@devonleavitt2084]

You should've used the elevators of the rear planes for pitch, moving opposite to the surfaces on the front plane. That would give you more pitch authority and also be more redundant.

[@Jonnygriz]

YES!!! SCRAPMAN HAS HEARD ME

[@JustAnKermit1YuYu]

14:37 I was thinking maybe have the guns higher for the back 2 or maybe somehow have the planes in back on a different height from the front plane if possible

[@maxmachac9756]

What you could have done is connect the rear planes by the top of the rudder, so the upper connectors cancel out the bend of the lower connectors

[@zichithefox4781]

This was an awesome episode!

[@DarpMasta_JDKg1375]

To potentially solve the wobbling, you could've tried using logic and detachers to make it to where each plane is independent. Don't know if it would actually work though

[@Tinoworlds11]

9:35 why does it say duck in French ?

[@GlitchDrewl-vr]

😂😂😂

[@anoddperson.3114]

🦢🇫🇷

[@Mingus_the_first]

Day 100 of asking scrapman to test how fast emp is in trailmakers

[@FreddieStarWars]

You should try actual formation flying, with 3 people

[@xiphido]

Linked Flying course? Two/more planes tethered with loose couplings, each with their own controls? Might be rather difficult after figuring out just how chaotic they can be with physics, but maybe?

[@nelsondevlogger4274]

I saw the title and I was like 😮 this is gonna be 🆒

[@haidenspence2297]

13:05 to 13:15 was hilarious out of context lmao

[@YourAnonymousRando]

How about having a 4-way battle using the Cylon light fighter from Battlestar Galactica. The one with the forward-swept wings. Since they were built for space, I'd like to see how you guys figure out the aerodynamics and control surfaces/thrusters for atmo. Believe me, if the build mechanics behave like I think, thruster-roll and/or pitch will throw you for a loop.