'We could have written the same manifesto', says PAP's Vivian Balakrishnan to WP's Jamus Lim

[@daveng262]

Jamus Lim have proven himself to be a worthwhile, articulate and eloquent opposing MP to have in parliament for the benefit of Singapore

[@dalonyong1707]

He will definitely be in parliament one day. As an elected MP. This GE is just a training ground for him, so even if he doesnt win, he'll get it next time. I wouldn't be surprised if there is any by-election soon, should he fail to be elected into Sengkang, WP will definitely send him first

[@natalierenfrow6016]

Surprisingly people have to talk cock about his accent. It's normal to have a ang moh accent if you're living overseas for a long time especially if it's a English speaking country. I lived overseas for 18 years and when I'm back in sg. They asked me where are you from? I said here. They say but you don't sound like a local. Cbs cant go to Australia USA etc and speak singlish causs nobody going to understand you and you have to change your accent abit to make them understand easier.

[@lightofthedark]

*Yes I got a photo with Jamus at Wisteria*

[@Alohasnackbar88]

@@natalierenfrow6016 but if you're back in SG already, why continue speaking in an obviously foreign accent?

[@Alohasnackbar88]

Refusal to speak like SG locals can be interpreted as a tacit rejection of local ways and customs. There's a reason why LKY made it a point to learn Hokkien--to connect with voters who would not have been able to relate to such an anglicised individual. So, it's not that people have to "talk cock" about his accent. They're just voicing a natural concern.

[@Out1sSaidAsOat]

As a PAP supporter, Jamus is a stellar example of how an opposition should approach debates and political issues

[@fattboy3542]

Hope the new generation of leaders in next 20 years carries the value which allows them to factor empathy to the struggles of lower to mid income citizens. Continue the effort to uplift them. Merdeka generations are experienced and had overcome difficult times like racial issues and resource shortage. Their humane values , cohesiveness should also be embed into the education system to cultivate future leaders.

[@lightofthedark]

@Brendan Koh *Lol?*

[@hilo4110]

Although Dr Balakrishnan sounds like he is mocking WP, but this is a very good example of how a ruling party and opposition party work together, finding solution together and bring Singapore forward together. This is the reason why we should have opposition in the parliament, to have more alternative voices and opening our ruling party mind to have make more good decisions.

[@mohdshah6184]

Hi lo VIVIAN AND HIS COMRADES MUST DO A SOUL SEARCHING... THE ROOT CAUSE WHY THEY ARE SLOWLY LOOSING THE MOMENTUM

[@blose4793]

Let's bring Jamus into parliament, as MP, not an NMP.

[@irmankhusaini814]

Agree let’s make our vote count

[@xLeidenFrost]

Your wish has come true

[@sgfuture9472]

Well done, Jamus! That's the Voice we need in the parliament! All the BEST in the coming GE! 💪💪💪🎉

[@steveyang9963]

Jamus speak like a MP, well spoken 👍 up

[@Weirdoughie]

with this kind of caliber, he can even be a minister, just saying.

[@1Invinc]

He has better qualifications than ALL of our million dollar ministers, and he speaks better than all of them.

[@sherwinh1661]

He was very polite and reasonable too. And respectful to everyone at the table

[@rileydoe2629]

He’s from the PAP!

[@jeraldng9781]

@@rileydoe2629 omg is that Dorje Lao Shi?!?!?!

[@JaviePlaysBass]

not gonna lie, Jamus did very well last night

[@chegue7197]

We want hear Jamus voice in the parliament..

[@chuasc1356]

Jamus, well good response to a veteran. Hope you will be in Parliament soon.

[@mohdibrahim706]

He IN!!!

[@chongwei2945]

Remove the time limit, I want to continue hearing

[@kenneth.lim3390]

Could have, would have, should have. More importantly is whether got do or not.

[@vedantbhard]

Absolutely correct.

[@enomc88]

Exactly, then show us , prove it

[@Iendleasereit]

Singapore so good alrdy idk why why for what reason u all complaining. Seriously man

[@craze52]

@@Iendleasereit singapore really isn't that good

[@chickenice0490]

@@craze52 can you do better?

[@meesiam2759]

WP displayed so much confidence here up against the old birds. I respect.

[@mindtwister1984]

Vivian explained his policies well and glad that Jamus is able to hold his own despite this being his 1st outing. Like the last part where when we thought Vivian was dominating the debate by saying the opposition is actually in syn with PAP, Jamus threw a curve ball by agreeing with him that precisely why opposition is needed is just like in this debate, to hear an alternative view point challenging and sharpening the PAP policies. Actually, PAP has to recognise that opposition is not an adversary and destructive but an adversary is good for bring out the best ideas in Parliamentary debates. Pitting PAP heavyweights against young worthy rising opposition stars is not in the best interest for SIngapore.

[@thedxdydz]

I'm sure they know this, but why would they want to endorse a check and balance that would make THEIR lives harder?

[@Thyassasin99]

yes the PAP recognises this. They also recognise that the WP is the best opposition party they could've wished for, which is why they are the strongest opposition party and which is also why the other parties will never gain traction with their ridiculous manifestos. I think from this GE onwards, esp after the COVID situation stabilizes, the PAP really needs to look at broadening the avenues of dialogue with parties like the WP

[@dying7121]

@@thedxdydz I dont think any political party in the world actually does their own check and balance better than PAP. As long as most of my tax dollar is wisely spent, I wouldn't be complaining much.

[@alphaomega9387]

D Ying "wisely spent" lol after the gov literally spend billions and still perform worse than some other countries with ministers that dont earn million dollar paychecks

[@killerins1000]

@@alphaomega9387 I wonder what's our ranking in GDP per capita? Hmm for a small country with no natural resources as well.

[@nicholaschooi4337]

Has anyone actually called wp “pap-like”?? This is literally my first time hearing that

[@herolee3541]

PAP-lite

[@Putt-Putt]

I do. Might be some time ago, don't remember when. It's either that or another similar phrase

[@littledonkey8901]

pap lite lah stupid

[@Brotherh00d]

​@@littledonkey8901 DR VB literally said "PAP-lite, or PAP-like" 0:17

[@ZoarkadoZenos]

@@littledonkey8901 dip

[@vanishingnihi]

Lets also give credits to the host for being impartial in the debate session. It is important that the host does not take any sides when allocating time for speeches

[@2annec97]

You r right. The host is impartial, has good control over the tempo of the debate!

[@someoneonly]

Lmao cause giving the opposition less time is fair

[@sherwinh1661]

Very healthy and constructive debate. I wish to see this happen in parliament too

[@Lu5ck]

Can see Jamus try to answer his question honestly and as directly as possible, despite Vivian poor attempt at fallacy to hint that WP is just mimic-ing and modifying PAP policies. Vivian indirectly answer question and at the same time not giving any real answer, like PAP always has.

[@eishundz]

Jamus hits bullseye. Return on Capital vs Return on Labour. That is the crux of all issues in the 1st world countries today. The outcome of the fiat monetary system is that the former gets over-rewarded while the latter stagnates. A good cabinet must realise this and take steps to prevent the gap from widening. Unfortunately, with the MIW in charge, the gap is becoming wider simply because we are a key financial hub which attracts capital from across the globe while their policies continue to favour businesses over workers. Many stable blue collar jobs have been lost because they did not plan ahead, did not try to change the mindset and biasness of the citizens towards these jobs. Carpenter, plumbers, electricians, stone masons, construction workers etc. 7 days annual leave for the first year; skilled furniture craftsman getting the same wage as a rubbish collector; 6 days work week for blue collared workers. It is a pretty sad state of affairs.

[@kinhoongyam3320]

Don't feel that Dr Balakrishnan had replied to Jamus's question... He stated facts but no answer as to how efficacy, and if they are looking, to get them measured. Somehow lost in translation...

[@razzrul5838]

PAP always beat around the bush. They will try to dodge the question by giving scenarios and facts only

[@godsamazinggrace5331]

@@razzrul5838 spot on

[@Banana-cc5rx]

all they always do is state the current existing policies bla bla, but never really touch on the fact that the majority are suffering. All empty words. Even Dr Chee who is blunt and direct also have to keep mentioning "the fact is" to fact check PAP. You can say the nicest thing but when reality shit doesn't help, it doesn't.

[@blessash7637]

Because they do not have a reply. Just like the East Coast plan. Nobody knows what is the plan up until 10 July haha

[@jimihamtarou2913]

Same..

[@1981dardar]

once again, the cockles in my heart is warmed on this cool morning..

[@blessash7637]

Why did Vivian said that he read Jamus’ manifesto and “actually to be honest with you, we could have written it”? Vivian has the last 5 years in office and his cheap shot was that “we could have written it”? Well for the last 5 years, they failed to write it. Vivian’s statement honestly has helped to illustrate what Workers’ Party stated clearly that there is an need to deny PAP a blank cheque.

[@Iendleasereit]

@Bless Ash u are missing the point or misinterpreted. What Vivian meant is that the WP manifesto is BASED ON PAP's stand point (which Jamus agreed - see second part of speech). Hence PAP could have written something similar.

[@yqang2904]

I guess your English comprehension is not good. You actually totally failed to understand what Vivian meant regarding "we could uave written it".

[@jensonchai3656]

Not enough homework done there Ash..

[@dalonyong1707]

Relax la brother, vivian panic mah, this kind of well spoken well educated opposition suddenly come and debate with him, he cannot tahan. Jamus owned the whole debate, i bet PAP and dr vivian must be wondering how on earth did they let someone like him slip from PAP hands

[@blessash7637]

Nick point was that he still did not write it as he said “he could have” but did not haha

[@princeofpersiasands7]

I feel grateful that the WP is contesting my GRC, some GRCs don’t have the luck of having a solid opposition party

[@mahenderansenthilkumar9655]

Lol

[@pinkych3rry]

YAY!

[@MrLEECHINSOON]

Of course, you are lucky to have a political party that had excellent track record of mismanagement to fight in your area, bro.

[@K.T07]

It's more about opposition number as a whole in the national level when making policy for the people and not just about who is your MP walking around your neighborhood saying hello to you..people need to understand that.

[@sktdllm9492]

@@MrLEECHINSOON see yr dumb name make me hungry. Y not Mee hoon kuay

[@fazs71]

Jamus Lim is good, ..all the best & good luck in your GE 2020 👍👌

[@matsudarx8]

The way that PAP belittles others is so blatant here. Could have written, but did they? They shldn't say "could have", when they don't intend to. Really hope they get to eat humble pie.

[@oma6108]

Losing a newly formed grc to wp is a big slap to their face

[@fattboy3542]

Majority of the people support Jamus because he did not waver away from being neutral and he can connect with people. He also does not shun away from the fact that they are not there to take away GRCs, they are mandated as the commoners voice. He spoke honestly.

[@rileydoe2629]

Fattboy wrong. Then they can go in as NCMP

[@fattboy3542]

Dojre Dojre i respect your opinion.

[@chillzone2273]

Best Speaker : Jamus Lim 2nd best: Dr VB 3rd: Dr Chee Last: PSP

[@gwong2343]

Jamus is masterclass incoming.... Slightly reminiscent of Andrew Yang of the democratic party. Bravo

[@1Invinc]

Yang Gang!

[@SirSX3]

1:48 "We have actually done the MATH"

[@sherwinh1661]

Yang gang here too

[@wongminquan4259]

I was thinking the same! Glad to finally find someone who has the same thoughts

[@tangtang7226]

Jamus is great. Work harder

[@paragugu]

Jamus Lim , you earn my respects

[@emeraldcloud9912]

The key words are 'could have' which means didn't happen

[@ethanlim9823]

The reason why was addressed later on:)

[@user-dv4rh2my1x]

Better romance than Twilight

[@abm6512]

Vivian did not answer those old senior citizen who work by collecting and selling cardboard boxes. Instead he attack his contender about fake news. This is debate n pls put the law aside. Fact vs fact.

[@ignatiustan3365]

Can see how vivian and jamus have like respect each other👍

[@bensongsabdullahwong9030]

The way balakrisnan talk the body language is for SDP Dr chee, relax bro

[@kaister901]

@Tan Tan Heng Swee Keat definitely toyed with the idea of a 10 million population when he quoted an economist suggesting that it's very feasible for singapore to have a 10 million population. Vivian said it's a cheap shot to equate that to PAP planning to have a 10 million population. Vivian twisted Dr Chee's word as much Dr Chee may have twised. Which he didn't. He was clear that Heng Swee Keat mentioned it in a forum. In fact just till yesterday you could google the straights times article showing Heng Swee Keat in an economic forum quote the economist. Now you cannot find that article anymore. *edited* You can still find it but boy it sure is hard. A day before it be the on the first page of google. Now it's taken over by multiple articles defending Heng Swee Keat. Including straits times. So I would do my research before jumping on Vivian's lap. Vivian is right to say PAP never made a population paper targeting 10 million. However Heng Swee Keat in that interview was clearly toying with that idea when he mentioned the economist opinion. So 1) Fact check : PAP did not submit a paper on a 10 million population. 2) Fact check: Heng Swee Keat did not verbally say he will target a 10 million population. 3) Fact check: Heng Swee Keat did mention an economist opinion that singapore is able to handle a 10 million population in that interview. Here is the link for that : www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng You cannot dismiss Dr Chee by saying , he is wrong because they didn't actually publish a 10 million population paper. You cannot also dismiss Dr Chee by saying, 1 man's opinion does not represent the entire PAP. Just remember in the elections before, when PAP said they will not raise the GST after election. Only for a while later,come to parliament and say we have no choice but to raise it now. So how are you telling us to trust them, when Heng Swee Keat clearly did toy with that idea. If not why else would be quote the economist? Perhaps to justify that the 6.9million population white paper is not as bad as it seems? Because an economist said 10 million is possible? Singaporeans the majority were against a 6.9 million white paper. We didn't want a severely congested city. They still went ahead with it and said they cannot give in to popularism. So what if..1 day comes where they see 10 million as a good thing? If you feel it's fine to justify a 6.9 million paper with a 10 million economist opinion. It's not far fetched to imagine them one day justifying a 10 million population.

[@rl7449]

The number one difference , manifesto aside is that the PAP and most of its members are so entrenched in all aspects of the GLCs and the Civil Service.

[@cryogenicflare5040]

So if the WP opposes, the PAP says that they're just obstructive and don't contribute to substantive debate. But if the WP supports them/proposes enhancements or complementary policies, the PAP calls them PAP-lite. I like Dr. Balakrishnan, but the PAP can't have it both ways.

[@kenho1449]

VB talked about spending reserves saved up by previous generations. And he just blew $280m on top of the budgeted amount just for YOG. So the question about efficacy. How has YOG actually helped us? Did they assume that just because we held that, tons of tourists are coming here because they watched YOG? How many people actually remember where the 1st YOG was held?

[@bluewaves3058]

Ken Ho literally no one

[@ojazin7102]

And don't forget how much the government spent subsidising fees for foreign students....while many of our own elderly are on their own struggling to make ends meet....

[@gabrielkok9208]

YOG had helped his master's vanity.

[@jamestan8112]

We don't even know our reserve....don't end of day say we already use up in the convid19.

[@limjin5200]

Wa jamus eat quite a lot of kentang sia lol. Good debater la this man

[@TaraToby-818]

Our PM too sounded very British when he first entered politics then changed to fit to our local taste. Give him time. He's good

[@WizardSoon]

(2:31) even moderator is impressed. "Very good" and smiling after that.

[@benchuadigital5711]

Jamus was polite enough not to be snide by saying "WP could have also written PAP policies" but WP didn't cos fundamentally we don't agree on points. A little to the left, makes a difference. Thats comparing to like "I'm a little pregnant, doesnt mean you are not pregnant"

[@mindful47]

Finally , someone really decent from a non PAP member.

[@desmondchee9976]

Dr Lim is eloquent and speaks well so is Dr Chee. In fact all the three Drs here speaks well. The difference though is their stand. WP still believes in the PAP with the same people's spirit but are there to make PAP govern better while SDP still doesn't believe or trust PAP. The results in this election speaks for itself. WP, however, is still not ready to take over the government of Singapore. They have said so themselves. Perhaps one day will come if the trend of young people entering politics is changing. In times of crisis and challenges this trend may continue especially with issues like climate change causing the world to experience more virus pandemic and environmental disasters and changing job landscape through technological disruptions. The world will be tougher for the next generation and it is only right that young people become more interested in politics. I remember a young LKY from the opposition party at one time in the 50s who speaks better than any of these three put together. Dynamic, full of zest and able to debate on any policies on global and local issues. Singapore was then in crisis quite different from the issues of today. Fighting the communists, negotiating self-independence and dealing with racial tensions were the day. When PAP in the 50-60s, a new era was born. Are we seeing the likes of an opposition who can do better. If more young people enter politics perhaps we will.

[@Fmoeuv]

Sengkang voter here. Jamus, you won my vote

[@SirSX3]

You are doing a great favour to your country. Please try your best to persuade your friends and family as well. We need this brilliant man in parliament!

[@wiseguy9980]

From hindsight, it was a grand masterstroke by Pritam Singh to second JJ Lim as WP rep. What a way to showcase this Gem!!!

[@Jaronite]

Hmm, I wonder why is the Like-Dislike ratio hidden.

[@MrElim088]

I sincerely pray & hope this team fr Seng Kang GRC made it into Parliament! All the best on 10July ;)

[@Auggie246]

Bromance brewing

[@Thethewho]

Vivian looks like hes on some rap battle show

[@cking74sg]

Some party should be in the Parliament meeting but they couldn't be there as always, unless the boss show up, then the rest will else only 10% or so usually. Therefore, more opposition in, maybe more attendance in the future? :P

[@clarencesyleong6332]

Thank you Dr Vivian for inevitably admitting that WP is able to match his party in terms of policy making. Although he tried to make a mockery out of it, but it's very obvious he was really impressed by Dr Lim.

[@MegaENCHANCER]

Civil discussion, I like

[@S..u..n..i..l]

Noone asked

[@christopherchristopher1643]

Many of my friends pointed at that very focused talk between Jamus and Dr B. If you ask me, both will make great Parliamentarian for the good of Singapore. Jamus is very focus and very light hearted. He simplify his reasons for people to understand and I could see that Dr B is impressed by Jamus's reaction and knowledge

[@dudeson588]

The coordinator is so annoying, like bro they already started their sentence why are you cutting them unnecessarily

[@1Invinc]

Don't blame the moderator. Blame the rules set for the debate. All things considered, he is quite fair. He cut V.Bala according the the debate rules as much as he did for the Opposition MPs. Question CNA on the fairness of V.Bala getting 4.5 mins for Opposition's 1.5 mins each. It would make sense for 1.5mins vs 1.5mins per question rather than each 1.5mins while PAP gets 4.5mins per question.

[@sherwinh1661]

He was quite professional . He wanted to provide clear time frame by stating it ma

[@AgenWashington]

It's to warn them that he starting timer mah

[@97432561]

can someone explain to why Vivian Balakrishan kind of fierce towards Dr Chee? but his tone is different towards Jamus?

[@agnessaw5832]

I noticed that too

[@panther_zheng]

It's almost like a sign of respect despite the rivalry between the two parties. Two geniuses and gentlemen in a game of chess

[@thea8646]

James was quite respectful towards all parties during the debate and he’s a fresh face in politics also i think vivian didn’t like that 10 million comment by dr chee 😂

[@TrueThat95]

I mean, look at how Dr Chee frames his questions, I honestly believe that his opinions are too skewed and pent up anger has clouded his judgement. Jamus on the other hand is respectful, acknowledges the strengths and weaknesses of different policies. Ofcourse Dr Balakrishnan would have a more amicable stance towards a more civilized and understanding opposition, compared to an opposition that is objecting for the sake of objection.

[@clarencesyleong6332]

Trump 101. When expecting tough questions, build a wall, stare down hard and put down your opponent first at all course.

[@adrianang9231]

What I know our SME company almost gg to die, bank loans only take care big boy, small boy they nv care

[@jeremiah5156]

@Sushi Saim Or maybe because they generate higher GDP for the country or maybe they employ more people? But I guess you're quite delusional on your thinking

[@JL..]

you do realize there's tons of SME loans in place? the borrowing limit has been greatly increased since covid and risk is shared w the gvmt

[@jerullium1947]

Financial economies of scale boissss

[@etphonehome6950]

Small boy wait for children day

[@1Invinc]

@@JL.. It has been brought up and it is true that SME's biggest pitfalls are cashflow. Loans will have to be paid back with interests eventually. All loans really do for SMEs is to put them on life support where they die a slow death. What really needs to be done for SME is to reduce the cost of business, namely reducing rent, licencing fees, and to increase the vibrancy of our domestic economy. In a sense, the only thing I disagree with the WP about is the institution of minimum wage, but yes, I feel the WP do have a greater focus on focusing on SME's growth rather than the status quo of the PAP where SME's are tolerated rather than promoted.

[@aleefmohammed244]

I’ve never heard of someone calling workers party “PAP Lite or PAP like”. Propaganda.

[@me3251]

I certainly have but not that much

[@winneroh168]

After all the renovation of many hawker Centres & change of mgmt. So many hawkers Iivelihood got into problem, rental increase, fees increase.. because of covid-19, now the hawkers center become unless - if hawker did not take a chance to operate. How to live a life without income.?

[@5kplamse]

vivian but did you do it?

[@asadjawa1212]

Lim Tean was probably the only one that could match Janus Lim in a debate. Would love to see them have a go at each other

[@kasajizo3136]

Is every school still a good school?

[@kevsuck9978]

I flew off my chair when he said "We'd like that"

[@winneroh168]

Without Covid-19. Will there be tax rebates or rental rebates - even the lower income, unemploy & Poor had cried out for help for the last 9 years.?

[@limjin5200]

cfm no lor Maybe they will give one gst payment few hundreds before election. But after they give themselves 10 months bonus again. Now say sp bill decrease. After ge sure go back to increase and increase

[@fengzhang3215]

The total rebate is 90b, which means 26k per citizen. How much did one citizen get? It will be paid back by everyone.

[@Chris-rs4so]

wait long long

[@kenho1449]

@@fengzhang3215 That is based on my ling ling calculation. Wonder how she arrived at this figure.

[@gabrielkok9208]

@@kenho1449 gotta pofma ma her for fake news

[@robw1927]

Since PAP agrees the WP manifesto is equal, why not outsource the G to WP?. After all, WP is cheaper, betterer and fasterer ✌✌

[@mohdibrahim706]

JAMUS WON and his team in Sengkang !!!

[@Philson]

We always say we have Reserves, but how much? It is never disclosed..

[@princeblade]

jamus, you are our hope! and we must understand that PAP is private limited

[@TAPEDVISION]

we could have written the same manifesto.... well you didn't did you ?

[@Iendleasereit]

lilith violet harmony u are missing the point or misinterpreted. What Vivian meant is that the WP manifesto is BASED ON PAP's stand point (which Jamus agreed - see second part of speech). Hence PAP could have written something similar.

[@Iendleasereit]

lilith violet harmony and they wouldn't becoz while their positions are aligned. Adjustments can be made based on what each priority is --- and there will be trade offs. Eg. If people want to be relaxed and have easier lifestyle, we may take on Malaysia type lifestyle and it's lesser infrastructure. On the other hand, note that Sg's present infrastructure is comparatively solid. Look at our bus stops and the HDBs.

[@darkmiku2483]

@@Iendleasereit you misinterpreted his comment . When he said they didnt , he meant that vivian himself didnt wrote the manifisto that you said wp`s manifisto was similar to the pap. He is the subject here .

[@5centsworth107]

Touch Jamus Lim. Well do ! One swipe dealth with VB's condescending yet devious way of 'common ground' with direction to capital or citizens. Good that you gave numbers. Let's see more this type of cut and thrust when you get to Parliment !

[@ynot7787]

Good job Jamus ! ...but don't be deceived by Vivian fawning over you. Here is the exchange between Vivian and Lily Neo ( PaP MP ) "How much do you want? Do you want 3 meals in a hawker centre, food court or restaurant?" - Minister for MCYS Dr Vivian Balakrishnan in replying to a request by MP Dr Lily Neo's "Is it too much to ask for just 3 meals a day as an entitlement for the PA recipients?" But Vivian has no issue spending $388M on the YOG well exceeding his "budget projection" of $110M +

[@eugeneho8879]

That seems like a self defeating statement..If what wp wrote isn't much of a difference than why try to block wp if the best policies for the people is what matters at the end of the day..we don't need a 2/3 majority pap when wp can fill the numbers and check the ruling party at the same time..why do we need a pap that is condescending, aloof, self-righteous party...all that false humility act is disgusting....

[@fluffz7082]

"We'd like that", says WP's Jamus Lim to PAP's Vivian Balakrishnan

[@eveker8]

Next debate can be longer. We are not in a rush. What the person who set the rules is thinking?

[@TommyC5777]

The Reserves belongs to the people during hard times. The reserves came from the vacant lands that you have occupied for industrial buildings , dormitories , factories ..etc . You can't just take whatever you want without giving back to the people. Our people deserved the leaders they have elected ...remember this , without the people there will be no PAP.

[@zebra9389]

But also remember this, without PAP, Singapore would not be how it is today. Cry so much, go become like Hong Kong. Their own people destroy the whole economy

[@hilo4110]

@@zebra9389 We can confirm that PAP build Singapore. But we can't confirm that if PAP lost in 1959, Singapore will not be how is it today, We can even be more prosperous. Nobody knows. But bear that in mind, the PAP Government that build Singapore to today's calibre is the Lee Kuan Yew's PAP. If Lee Kuan Yew come back, I will happily vote for the Party that bring Singapore to where it is today.

[@fattboy3542]

Ze en the fundamental and development credit should ultimately go to the first / second batch of pap guards. This do not warrant future leaders a safety net and guarantee of support. Jamus’s a breath of fresh air, Quality. Questions and debate should stimulate people, not seek accusations. He is good

[@fattboy3542]

Ze en debate tommy C if u have any calibre. And by the way he is not crying.

[@fattboy3542]

Ze en we also have to realise legacy worshipping will never do us any good. Policies should adapt and try its best to leverage impact across citizens of any background.

[@tangtang7226]

We can see they are many great people without much info yet can talk more sense in simple English

[@clzm90]

Title of the video should be changed. It made it seems like it's a Dr. Balakrishnan highlight, when in fact, it was Jamus Lim who stole the show.

[@bbhui]

You could have written.. but did you? That's the question.

[@m.f.hchannel2515]

After 61years of suffering.... from generation to generation...No money No PAP...support opposition parties..

[@Zailah0201]

though u hv a dislike fr PAP, pls show respect...and dun cut him. I applaud how calm DR Vivian answering them compared to the rest of the PAP parliament who look at it as a form of an attack to PAP.

[@Anhming]

SGUnited.......jia u.......PAP VivianB Be Patient n Strong

[@probathroomsingeryx]

Get a person who stares at u the same way vivian stares at jamus

[@5centsworth107]

If we are funding from reserves, then good to know how much CEO of Temasek being paid. There are bureaucratic fat in the system too, for example, civil sevants who have retired drawing pensions yet called back to be 'consultants' and 'adjuncts'. Dr Chee should be more meticulous and less conniving.. funding can come from delayed purchase of F-35 (when our fighter jets still outclas our neigbours) or cutting excessive expenditure (should take a look into the RC & CC budget). It is the manner in which curent party is spending mney with little transparency yet quick n raisig taxe and tarriffs and fresh flat prices that irk the citizens.

[@biqingtan4926]

To be honest with you, you could have written the same manifesto but you did not.

[@m.f.hchannel2515]

Support opposition, it’s time to make a change guys.

[@occhua5118]

Dear Dr Balakrishnan, well done. Keep it up. Rooting for you and team. Thank you.

[@suganthan8856]

"could have written the manifesto" but you didn't that's the difference

[@canlaken]

Subtitles for Deaf and hard-of hearing please! :)

[@LonganLee]

The risk is pap could offer Coalition with WP. Today this is unlikely. I am talking about the future

[@artistsyeun7677]

PAP is for the rich and not for the everyday poor and average singaporean...and many singaporeans are living in poverty, hardship and stress for far too long under PAP....LOOK AT THE PAP MINISTERS PAY!!! OVER 100K??? I feel Dr. Chee Soon Juan is a good man who will sacrifice his wealth to save the poor and average singaporeans....vote for him and he will bring better changes. Jamus is good too....but will he save the poor and the rejected?

[@sherwinh1661]

Jamus was the winner of this debate

[@albertwongwong9806]

Because Vivian was too weak, he only slapping his own face, trying too hard to made chee look bad, fortunately ppl can judge..

[@zedftofficial]

The way he actually uses sarcasm in his arguments (Vivian) really made me feel disgusted. First time watching who was Jamus and he surprised me with his sound arguments despite not really 'looking' the cut.

[@leekokwei5098]

haha if you think this is sarcastic. you should watch the parliament debates.

[@terrytay1774]

Pap very condescending. They think they are Spore.

[@lucytheodas9808]

Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming.

[@rl7449]

It’s very strange that an eye doctor speaks like he fully understands Industry 4.0 and it’s vast implications to productivity and jobs of the future. One of the biggest challenge that we will face is certainly mismatch in skills and we have been relying on MNCs too much by offering very generous grants and tax incentive to locate their operations here. The question is how many of those MNCs have truly enabled the local workforce to embrace Industry 4.0 or its simply a case of exploitation of incentives and never about people development. We do not have a TSMC , a HuaWei , a Samsung or LG.

[@vembayanselvaraju8371]

Jamus jerome talked so fast....vivian doesn't talk that fast...both are good men reaching out to serve their constituents

[@อารยาแซ่อึ้ง-ส3พ]

I get confuse with the long wind medisave etc, simply return every cent of my own money. I'm already coming to 70 yet I don have to beg PAP a single cent for aid.

[@ISTARI22]

0:20, looks happy and proud Vivian actually praised his party and at the same time saying, bitch we ain't the same.

[@sumertheory]

Jamus is awesome

[@winneroh168]

BV - if is OK for PAP to adopt what others had put up. Is it not that all public sectors tender solutions is always written by someone else. That's why there is RFQ and Fin Budget and Tech Budget documents from others.

[@surijahlasmi]

He VB looks more friendly to Jamus Lim than CSJ...why?

[@muji4832]

Dear Vivian, that's a cheap shot too ...