We Could Not Stop Crying | The Pacific Episode 10 Reaction

[@SpartanandPudgey]

Wow what a heart-breaking and emotional episode. we could not stop weeping Watch our reactions up to 4 weeks EARLY & UNCUT over on Patreon! www.patreon.com/spartanandpudgey

[@Orange-Jumpsuit-Time]

Now do yourselves an additional favor, read Sledge and Leckie's book(s), you won't be disappointed.

[@atuuschaaw]

Loved the reaction! ♥ This episode wrecks me no matter how many times I see it. ♥

[@Anon54387]

Those that got thrown in the brig didn't get to go home as soon as those that stayed out of trouble with the military police.

[@Anon54387]

John Basilone is now buried in Arlington National Cemetery, not far from where General (and later Secretary of State) Marshal (for whom the Marshall plan is named) is buried.

[@Anon54387]

Eugene's dad didn't have to imagine what he went through, he was overseas during WW1.

[@Perfectly_Cromulent351]

Generation Kill, while not made by the same production company, is also an HBO production and absolutely worth a watch. It’s a true story based off a Rolling Stones reporter’s experience while he was imbedded with a US marines unit during the opening stages of the Iraq War.

[@EthanDarke]

Absolutely! So few reaction channels cover that show

[@notthestatusquo7683]

Second this! I feel like these two would appreciate the humour too.

[@KelappanKing]

I third this! While not as starry-eyed as the WW2-era movies, Gen Kill is an excellent war series. Being about a modern ongoing war makes it more relevant to today and I personally love the cynicism and moral ambiguity it forces us to confront.

[@aaronwalters6134]

Most realistic portrayal of the Iraq war. I wasn’t there in the initial invasion, but not much changed in the years following.

[@kevinotoole2285]

In my opinion Eugene Sledge has written the best war memoir I have ever read. The way he describes the situation and how vivid he gets I couldn’t comprehend it. I first tried reading it at 13 after watching the show the first time and I had to set it down my young mind didn’t understand the brutality. Years later I picked it back up and read it in a 2 hour block period instead of doing my math work lol. This book let me understand my grandfather who fought from the age of 17 on Guadalcanal to 20 on Okinawa then 25/26 for Korea after being called back and landing at Inchon and being wounded at chosin reservoir then being in his mid 40s for Vietnam fighting in Hue.

[@warriorpitbull1170]

Eugene breaking down and his father there to console him is the most heart-wrenching yet beautiful scene from a war series that I've witnessed. It hurts so sharply, but his father's love and consolation feels like a warm blanket in an ice storm. Edit: I highly recommend Eugene's book 'With the Old Breed at Peleliu and Okinawa'. A good bit of the series is based on it as well as Bob Leckie's 'Helmet for My Pillow'.

[@Anon54387]

Leckie also wrote a very good book on the America Revolution called George Washington's War.

[@pabloc8808]

In real life, what happened was Eugene's father found him on the ground, weeping, after having killed a dove. Eugene said he could no longer tolerate seeing any suffering. His father then suggested instead of shooting birds, he could instead take on bird watching as a hobby. It started as a hobby, but he was so passionate about it he went on to study ornithology and became a big name in his field.

[@charmedoriginal5923]

Now that the first "Band of Brothers" companion pieces, "The Pacific" is finished is the second companion piece "Masters of the Air" next, Spartan & Pudgey ?

[@defrte]

They said yes eventually in the vid but not immediately They've been on quite a ww2 binge lmao

[@atf_1414]

@@defrte And later, Generation Kill, i don't see a lot of people reacting to it but it surely deserves a watch

[@WillTaft]

Masters of the Air is so terrible. The acting is awful, and the CG that is in basically every shit looks like trash. Such a disappointment.

[@jcr9520]

The movie Best Years of our Lives is worth a look. It’s a great film about three servicemen returning home after the war and their individual struggles to reintegrate into society. It came out just after the war had ended and features an actual navy combat vet who’d lost his hands in the war.

[@RichardGiunta]

Great movie

[@tomw324]

I saw an interview with Sidney Phillips telling a story about his Australian girlfriend. In reality her name was Shirley and their relationship in the Melbourne episode was strictly platonic. Shirley eventually married an RAF pilot and had several children. Sometime after the war she and her family made a trip to the US and visited Mobile. Sid got a call from his wife at his medical practice telling him that Shirley was at their home. He was a little confused and said who? To which she responded, you know.... Shirley. Well as it turned out on that visit, Shirley's son and Sid's daughter fell in love and were married. So Sid and Shirley ended up sharing grandchildren after all.

[@SIickTurtIe]

I Drive past Basilone Road in Oceanside, California (Camp Pendleton) every few weeks to visit family in San Diego. As a kid, I never really thought about who it was named after. I totally appreciate now after finding out he's one of the most legendary Marines in US history.

[@DRwhitman]

I loved your reactions to this series. Your comments were very thoughtful and touching.

[@JoshDeCoster]

Henry Sledge, Eugene’s son, remembers while he was growing up, Snafu would come over to Sledges house and smoke cigarettes in the kitchen, to talk about the war. He’s recently re-watching the pacific, and was a large reason why this show was so good. Sledge struggled immensely after the war. With the help of his father, he went to school for biology, and his life passion became birds and science. But he never, ever forgot what he saw. There are several good interviews of Gene on KZbin from the 80s-90s.

[@shawngordian4161]

As someone who has been to war and in a few battles, not to the degree of WW2 but in battle with my battle brothers. No matter how long you havent spoken to each other when you do that brotherhood is always there. I imagine when Snaf and Sledge did get together that 30+ years later they didnt miss a beat.

[@mikealvarez2322]

Most of these men are interviewed as part of documentaries about the battles they fought. The documentary PELELIEU has Eugene Sledge plus many others in it.

[@charlestaylor686]

The Pacific was based on memoirs of Eugene Sledge and Robert Leckie among others: "With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa": By Eugene Sledge, this memoir covers the later part of the war, from 1944 to 1945 "Helmet for My Pillow: From Parris Island to the Pacific": By Robert Leckie, this memoir covers the early part of the war "China Marine: An Infantryman's Life after World War II": By Eugene Sledge "Red Blood, Black Sand: with John Basilone on Iwo Jima": By Chuck Tatum, a Marine who fought alongside John Basilone at Iwo Jima "You'll Be Sor-ree!: A Guadalcanal Marine Remembers the Pacific War": By Sidney Phillips, a friend of Sledge "Islands of the Damned": By Romus V. Burgin, a squad leader for Sledge's mortar team. God bless them all.

[@kevinotoole2285]

Eugene sledge has a speech he gives on KZbin called “With the Old Breed and the Cost of War” it’s 36ish minutes I think and he goes in grave detail on how they personally felt the emotions on the battlefield and the idea of killing. The filth on the battlefield and at the end he gives some remarks on the men and what that cost truly was. Highly suggest listening to it when working out or when you’re free to. Semper Fi to all the ground pounders past present and especially future🙏🏼🇺🇸

[@joeyr4429]

There's a "Band of Brothers" and "The Pacific" documentary called He has seen war. Highly recommend.

[@Jay-ln1co]

I feel the 2012 film Emperor is a nice chaser for the series, set in the post-war occupation of Japan.

[@wcrittenden2168]

During the course of the show the Marines grew from one division to six, which required moving experienced Marines around. Basilone fought on Canal as part of the First but came to Iwo as part of the Third Division.

[@2121starvinmarvin]

He Has Seen War (2011) is a documentary featuring surviving veterans of Easy Company and the 1st Marine Division, whose stories are told in Band of Brothers and The Pacific. Having covered both, I think if you folks were to do a video on this, it'll bring insight to many people (I don't think there's any KZbin reactions).

[@doyledeclue282]

There's a movie called the outpost. Whether you react to it or just watch it on your own you won't be disappointed. True story

[@ems7448]

Wait. We finally got Spartan to actually cry? Hot damn.

[@jtcash2005]

Tom Hanks Movie + WWII = "Greyhound". The war to cross the Atlantic and supply Britian.

[@Perfectly_Cromulent351]

Such an underrated movie

[@mvprime8]

Also Midway (2019). Midway works as a prequel to The Pacific, it covers Pearl Harbor and the immediate first months of the war, before the events of The Pacific.

[@Diieguiini]

@@Perfectly_Cromulent351 I totally agree!

[@aweebunny]

26:49 Chesty Puller has so many great quotes. When he was shown a new weapon called the Flame Thrower he asked; 'Where do you mount the Bayonet?'

[@harryrabbit2870]

The tone of BoB is different because, although the experiences of individuals are highlighted, it is always in the context of the group, in this case Easy Company. The Pacific lacks that same unifying thread, instead giving you the impressions of individuals. The isolation produced is more harrowing and personal and there's no mutual social support. That helps make "The Pacific" darker and claustrophobic. Good job making it through the series. I have watched a few reactors bail out because it was too much for them.

[@juansfitness4237]

The final push.. this episode always got me emotional but glad I got to finish this masterpiece with yall

[@mikealvarez2322]

The celebration by the soldiers was because they knew that the invasion of Japan was not in their future. As hard as the Japanese fought for Pelelieu, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa imagine how hard the fighting would have been in an invasion of Japan. The military estimated over 1 million casualties. Millions of Japanese civilians would have certainly died of statvation, which killed more civilians than any bombs. There are many today that say it was wrong for the U.S. to drop the nuclear bombs on Japan. This is why series like THE PACIFIC, BAND OF BROTHERS, and MASTERS OF THE AIR plus accurate movies of all wars is so important.🤔 While it may be hard for us to watch it's infinitely harder for them to fight. God Bless all those who fight for our freedom.❤❤❤❤❤

[@taraldomland8657]

I think its an obvious that you must see masters of the air!! Its definitely not as heavy as pacific, but its a new side of the war. And its truly beautiful! You should definitely watch!!!

[@JohnyRodriguez-n3p]

You should watch these movies 1. Taking Chance 2. Only the brave

[@johncarr3846]

Yes! Masters of the air is definitely worth the watch!

[@catherinelw9365]

I recommend The Best Years of Our Lives, which won Best Picture for its depiction of post war struggles for veterans. Alcoholism, PTSD, marital woes, unemployment, disability, etc. were all given attention so the American public can see what these men went through and what they faced coming home. Poignant, funny, sorrowful, thoughtful, yet ending with a note of hopefulness, it's well worth the watch with brilliant performances by the cast. William Wyler, the director, was a veteran himself and he wanted to bring awareness to the plight of veterans. It is probably the first film ever made that really brings home the postwar issues faced by returning servicemen. One of my favorite films of all time.

[@danl.909]

Lena’s visit to her in-laws crushed me. Not surprising that it affected you both so strongly. Good job on the series, kids. Thanks.

[@michaelstach5744]

I have a theory about why Snafu didn’t wake Eugene on the train. If you remember back to Leckie talking with the shrink, he said the Japanese murdered sleep on Guadalcanal. Snafu saw Eugene sleeping peacefully and knew how precious that gift was.

[@Orange-Jumpsuit-Time]

Snafu stood there for a moment trying to decide if he should take some of Eugene's gold teeth to add to his collection.

[@gravitypronepart2201]

Yes, please do Masters of the Air! Also, Bob Lecke kept his faith throughout the war. Why they depicted him as losing it, I don't know.

[@edwardanger2409]

Don't forget to check out, They have seen War, its the veterans, their families, or veterans who are portrayed in the shows but not interviewed in the series the Pacific and BoB talking about their experiences and how they lived with it.

[@catherinelw9365]

He Has Seen War.

[@gwh766]

You can now watch “ he has seen war”. It is a joint pacific and band of brothers documentary about how the men from both series dealt with their life’s after the war. It has interviews with the surviving men and their families.

[@tadanott300]

Loved watching y'alls reaction to this series. Some people come back from war completely broken. We need to make sure they get the support they need. It's the very least we owe them.

[@kristymcdowell6185]

BOB will always be in my top 3 series of all time but the pacific holds a special place in my heart. It was a wonderful series. HIGHLY recommend reading sledges book and helmet for my pillow by Robert was a good read too. When I saw that snafu and Eugene didn’t speak for all those years and snafu ended up being one of sledges pallbearers I lost it.

[@catherinelw9365]

Actually, it was Sledge who was a pallbearer for Snafu's funeral.

[@kristymcdowell6185]

@@catherinelw9365you’re right. I worded it wrong.

[@BigDic45]

The guys who survived in the Pacific felt like it was for nothing.

[@ChrisMillerCrazyHouse]

This is actually my favorite episode of the Pacific because we get to see the soldiers come home and trying to integrate back into normal life

[@TheIronDuke9]

So glad you guys loved this series. A lot of people found it too disjointed compared to BOB because it used two books as source material compared to the one book used in the other series. But imo the characters in this series went through a much greater and profound arc and I think it showed how the war changed people better than BOB did. BOB was about camaraderie whereas this series was about the effects of war and combat on the individual. Please consider The Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind as a feature film to react to. It is a perfect screenplay and an amazing movie.

[@thegreatpage5912]

I'm not sure if ya'll know this or not. But Eugene is Tim the little boy from Jurassic Park.

[@aaronwalters6134]

Masters of the Air..

[@caras2004]

A movie to follow a military escort of a fallen hero. Kevin Bacon Taking Chance

[@ccchhhrrriiisss100]

I hope that you will continue this journey with the Apple+ WW2 series MASTERS OF THE AIR. It is the third series produced by Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks. That series focuses upon the air warfare in the European theatre of war. Personally, I rank it in-between BAND OF BROTHERS and THE PACIFIC.

[@buddystewart2020]

I have Sledge's book, it's a good read. A lot of this show comes right out of that book.

[@instantbadass]

There were vereran interviews that for some reason they didnt play before each episode, narrated by Tom Hanks, it really sets the scene for each episode. You hear from Sid Phillips, RV Burgin, Chuck Tatum as well as some other veterans who were not featured. Theres a compilation on KZbin you can watch that way. And yes, you gotta round out with Masters of the Air.

[@213thAIB]

I think that Snafu *couldn’t* say goodbye.

[@jerseyfky]

What didnt make sense in this episode was that Sid new Eugene was coming home that day, but not his own parents?

[@EthanDarke]

I'll never understand KZbin censorship rules; you can leave in Kraut in Band Of Brothers all day, but gods forbid you don't mute the word Jap, literally just a shortened version of their actual nationality name

[@KokoroBeach]

Please consider the short series Generation War (2013) to get another perspective, this time the Germans. Can also recommend Flags of our Fathers and Letters of Iwo Jima! Love your reactions, Pudgey and Spartan!!

[@kevinmassey1164]

Excellent reactions to this series

[@EthanDarke]

I'd like to suggest you two react to 'Generation Kill', it's a war miniseries like this show and band of brothers, it covers a Marine unit during the '03 invasion into Iraq

[@romanesebilo1482]

Masters of The Air now 😄😄

[@jeminavalila]

yess!

[@marcopedro35]

You guys have to watch Masters of the Air!

[@MrPaulcm1]

Such a great TV show, really hits you in the feels. Glad you guys liked it. :)

[@woeshaling6421]

2:44 troops will be dismissed to return home, but a great number will be retained for occupation duties. Japan surrendered and the fighting stopped, but that also means that all the territories where the war was fought are in utter disarray. Troops were stationed there, especially in Japan to keep order and fight civilian resistance groups until stable governments were set up. Sledge served for a time in China. There is also the issue of Japanese holdovers, small groups and even singular soldiers who didn't believe Japan surrendered and kept fighting years after the war.

[@greyngo]

The Pacific starts slow, at least for me. I've always felt off when watching it after Band of Brothers, when the show doesn't really focus on anyone properly. But the later half of the show, when it's about Sledge, Snafu and Burgie, really tops even Band of Brothers. Again, at least for me.

[@Casherr93]

Yeah ep 5 is when the show really takes off at least for me, ep 4 was the most tedious with the jungle and rain plot

[@huckleberryoutfitters7051]

Yeah. Episodes 5-10 are better than BOB

[@michaeldmcgee4499]

You should react to "Gallipoli" about the Australian Army's fight against the Turks in WW1. It stars a young Mel Gibson and will absolutely break your heart.

[@SoCalDude1793]

Both BoB and the Pacific are masterpieces. From a pure “film” making point of view BoB is the better show due to how the story is presented and executed. From my opinion point of view the Pacific is better. In Saving Pvt Ryan, battle fatigue is addressed with the shaking hand of Captain Miller. In BoB it’s shown more with Pvt Blythe and Lt Compton. In the Pacific it’s the whole show. God bless All of those who fought to preserve our ways of life. Spartan and pudgy… I wonder if any of those places the 1 Mar Div stayed at in Melbourne are still around? Might make a nice road trip for u

[@prettymuchbangtan]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, im begging you, watch the last installment of the HBOwar series, GENERATION KILL next, its an excellent mini series and is EXTREMELY realistic just like the pacific and BoB just a different war and a different generation. absolutely worth it, and hilarious at times.

[@Orange-Jumpsuit-Time]

Now do yourselves an additional favor, read Sledge and Leckie's book(s), you won't be disappointed.

[@travismorris9303]

You guys should definitely watch Flags of our Fathers, about the men who raised the flag in the famous photo on Iwo Jima.

[@jamesmayes4351]

So strange that no one recognizes, Garrus from Mass Effect's voice actor in the officer dating Vera. This episode hits harder than even the worst combat scenes, largely because its all the human damage from the war. You get to see how much even the survivors carry all the damage with them even then.

[@atuuschaaw]

As I've mentioned before, I had uncles in the Battle of the Bulge, my dad was in the navy during the island hopping from the Solomons to Okinawa, and while I was in the USAF, I worked with two wonderful gentlemen who were among the crews on B-17 bombers in the 8th Air Force from England and North Africa. So I was invested in all three productions...Band of Brothers, The Pacifc, and Masters of the Air. ♥

[@Marterrin]

You probably should watch masters of the air, but it s not in the same league as BOB and the Pacific, in my opinion.

[@flipdewilde8984]

Yep. Masters of the air next!!

[@Randomizer939]

Next Masters of the Air, yay!

[@edwardbarocela3064]

Check out the USS Basilone, a Navy destroyer named after the war hero.

[@arozes8324]

On of the best series out there!

[@jb4054]

This was a great series and thanks for sharing the reactions for The Pacific! It makes me proud to be an American when I see these amazing stories shown to the world of such valor and courage. My grandfather won a purple heart in Normandy but died after the war of shrapnel wounds around his heart a few years after the war, so i never got to know him. My mom was 2 years old when he died. Those men are known to us as "The Greatest Generation". Thank you for watching the series as to me, that is the best way to honor them! 🇺🇸 🇦🇺 Is Masters of the Air next for you guys? 🤔

[@Gaddict]

Dont know if this was said but the actor who played Sledge is the same actor of the young boy in Jurrasic Park

[@eschiedler]

The Silent Generation was in part called that way because parenta had no 'openness' with their children or feelings, I've met people of that era and they are that way. Hence Leckie's parents....

[@catherinelw9365]

You must have missed the part where Leckie tells Stella that the death of one of his brothers broke his parents, especially his father, who was never "right in the head" after that.

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

Generation Kill should be the next watch

[@cityboydanny1758]

You guys should watch masters of air it’s the third in the collection

[@andrewcharlton4053]

With everyone clamouring for Masters of the Air, Generation Kill is a good look at the Iraq war. Given your opening remarks, maybe take a break for a few months? Thanks for trooping through the Pacific though. Been 'enjoyable' to watch.

[@SSgtJ0hns0n]

Seconded for _Generation Kill_ since the tone whiplash from BoB & The Pacific's heroic sacrifice to GK's mundane insanity is always a culture shock, even to the generation that grew up watching that war in the news.

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

Gen Kill, while extremely different, feels like part of a trilogy with these two (even though it was made before The Pacific). Stripped down with no music, it also feels much less "Hollywood" and "overly sentimental". (While The Pacific and BoB are both sentimental, I think the Pacific does is much better than BoB, which at times is cloyingly sweet)

[@andrewcharlton4053]

@@Jon.A.Scholt 100% agree. Its why I prefer the Pacific over BoB. They're both great, but I think the Pacific will stand the test of time better.

[@McBrannon1000]

I know I'm in the minority, but I think this was better than Band of Brothers, and Helmet For My Pillow is better than With the Old Breed.

[@r_p_m7330]

What is really sad watching this now. Is that they all died for a country that forgot what they fought against. At least none lived long enough to watch them vote their freedom away.

[@sandbagger57]

Sledge's memoir is considered one of the best ever written. He was stationed in China after the war and wrote the book China Marine. The final part of this Trilogy is Masters of the Air. There are videos about these men on KZbin.

[@richardlong3745]

Thought I mention because you two are Aussies the scene where Eugene Sledge is speaking with the girl at the college, she's Michelle Williams the mum of Matilda Ledger Heath Ledger's daughter. You should watch Master of the Sky which is based on USAA Eighth Air Force flying over Europe, one startling fact is that the Eighth Air Force lost more men what the entire USMC lost in the Pacific but the one difference was the Marines lost their men filth, misery on disease infested brutal conditions whereas the Air Groups lived on bases in a lot better condition before each of their combat missions took place. Each bomber had a ten-man crew along with one man fighter escort pilots, so every time a bomber went down 10 men were at risk of death.

[@mikeabberton]

The actress does look a lot like Michelle Williams, but she is credited as Adelaide Clemens on IMDB.

[@sevillajr48]

Masters of the air is worth watching. It was an amazing film as well.

[@Phantomgreen29]

Going to be a no vote from me for Masters of Air, it doesn't carry the kind of weight that Band of Brothers or The Pacific does, it falls very short and to me wasn't emotionally investing.

[@danl.909]

Agree about _Masters of the Air._ The history of the air war in Western Europe is a particular interest of mine, and I was looking forward to the series. Unfortunately, I found much of it rang false against what I know of that amazing struggle. Not recommended.

[@acebreakersairsoft431]

Gotta watch hacksaw ridge movie base true story about the war, who agrees?

[@rpg7287]

Sledge’s book, “With the Old Breed,” is the single greatest book about World War II I have ever read. I cannot recommend it highly enough. I encourage everyone to give this a read. It’s absolutely incredible.

[@Cenforge]

Bravo.

[@jevans.writer]

Great reaction! Please also react to Masters of the Air. It follows B-17 bomber crews stationed in England and going on bombing missions in Europe. It's a pretty great series and well worth the watch. Edit: Glad to hear y'all will react to Masters of the Air! Looking forward to it.

[@AMRA-kl7cy]

Hey guys! Hope you’re doing well, I was just wondering do you guys accept any movie suggestions? I’ve been dying to request a movie to you guys to watch but I don’t know if you take any suggestions, please let me know if you do thanks!

[@SpartanandPudgey]

we do take them and if something seems to have a lot of community interest we add it to our polls.

[@scardin3520]

​@@SpartanandPudgeyare u guys only posting movies on Patreon now?? Cause it's been a min since y'all did/posted 1 on KZbin!

[@SpartanandPudgey]

no we are just taking a break. we did an announcement about it on the 'posts' tab on our channel a few months back. they will return in the near future

[@aldepal]

Masters of the Air still worth watching

[@williambranch4283]

The boys get home but will never be the same. Some Japanese boys fought on ... one until 1974.

[@TuntematonMies-q2w]

If you wanna check out a war film outside of Hollywood, Unknown Soldier (2017 version) from Finland is a great piece 🤩

[@stevenspringer1599]

Recommend Tom Hanks in "Greyhound" 2020 for the WW2 submarine war in the Atlantic.

[@Showstealer13]

time for Masters of the Air.

[@scardin3520]

Wait if u guys thought Leckie wrote and sent the letters to Vera then why the hell when he knocked on her do yall acte surprised she remembered him??😂😂😂

[@dennissipsy3152]

Just a heads up. In 1945, American men didn't hug each other-ever! And men only cried if their mother died. Period,

[@rpg7287]

I see there’s a lot of recommendations for Masters of the Air. I suppose it’s work a watch. But, it doesn’t come close in quality to Band of Brothers or The Pacific. For me, personally, it just wasn’t nearly as good as the other two.

[@shabut]

Snafu was literally playing skittles with a Japanese skull. I don't talk to my friends I grew up playing hockey with for similar reasons

[@Vixnihusee]

In real life it was a different person