We Drive 800 Miles in the New 2019 RAM 3500: Here's How Fuel Efficient 1000 lb-ft of Torque Is!

[@dedalliance1]

I feel like 15 mpg for an empty diesel is pretty terrible. I guess society can thank def and emission systems for that.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

It has 4:10 gears and a aisin transmission. And DEF isn't a bad thing, it's the EGR AND DPF that hurts you!

[@843MudMafia.]

Try driving a 18 wheeler and see I get like 7 to 8 mpg to the gallon

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

Darius Hope Thats actually pretty good for a semi.

[@bigbossman5969]

exactly

[@dedalliance1]

@@JohnDoe-nz6bk Well, even my 2018 GMC Sierra 3500 crew cab long bed gets 12ish mpg highway with a 4.10 rear end with the 6.0L gas engine.

[@corystansbury]

15 mpg in a new truck with emissions, winter fuel and temperature, up to 80 mph, 4.10 rear, and crossing the Rockies. It isn't terrible IMHO.

[@brandondannys-menary3678]

Our 2012 f350 6.7l powerstroke averaged 17 7-18mpg bone stock. But you don't buy a truck for mpg so it's not a big deal lol

[@flyingpirate0456]

Better than an H2

[@Paradsio]

Gotta delete the truck and it’ll be like 18-20

[@dillonh321]

@@brandondannys-menary3678 What gears do have?

[@TheFarmersLife]

My personal best in my 2012 3500 single wheel 4x4 Megacab is two trips to St. Louis from NW Indiana right at 15mpg hand calculated. 3.73 gears, cruise control at the speed limit. One trip was all stock, the other was with 100hp tune emissions intact.

[@mic982]

So... this new 2019 6.7L 1-Ton diesel (with 1000# of torque) gets just about the same mileage as a 1500 Half-ton Ram with the old 5.9L gasoline engine and a 1/3 of the torque. Pretty impressive, really.

[@dannyneal9713]

Mic when you say it like that it is pretty impressive

[@dillonh321]

Apples to oranges. This is a diesel from the sounds of it it you are comparing it to a gas. A diesel 1/2 ton gets about 30 mpg, about twice as much as the Cummins.

[@mic982]

I am, but that's the point. I still own my 2001 Dodge ½-ton 1500 with the 5.9L V-8 and it gets ~14 mpg. Has since new. This 1-ton with >2.5 times the torque does the same or better (mileage wise) while able to do a LOT more work. To me, that's remarkable. I also own a 2015 Ram Ecodiesel which gets 29+ mpg. But it has < half of the torque of this 1-ton.

[@charlespetersonii6989]

A turbo diesel is way more efficient than a N/A gasser👍

[@mic982]

Agreed. But, unfortunately, in my state the Legislature is going after diesels of all kinds, sans off-road and farm-only vehicles (tractors) to punish the owners of them. Oregon wants to essentially ban all over-the-road diesels in the name of Climate Change. What a pity if they get their way, and I don't see much in the way to stop them.

[@chadmckinney4518]

You should do an High Output Cummins vs Standard Output Cummins Mpg loop.

[@WeatherxCalipha]

Correct me if I'm wrong but only the 2500 comes with the standard output Cummins. Wouldn't be a fair comparison because while they're both in the Heavy Duty class, they're two different types of trucks, it's obvious the 3/4 ton will get better MPG results.

[@THEDESTROYER711]

C.T. Productions 3500 models equipped with the 68rfe have the standard output Cummins engine. You have to get the aisin to get the high output.

[@abramar123]

@@WeatherxCalipha 3500 also gets the standard output. The output is based on what transmission you use. 2500 can only use 68rfe(standard), but the 3500 can use the 68rfe and the AISIN(high output). Standard output would get higher MPG, because it uses a higher compression ratio, because it uses less boost.

[@abramar123]

Standard output would get higher MPG, because it uses a higher compression ratio, because it uses less boost.

[@WeatherxCalipha]

@@abramar123 Oh, I see.

[@Ahmad-yw5hl]

If someone doesn’t love the TFL family, they have problems. Love you guys and keep the hard work

[@isaacalvarado2568]

I drove 1,600 miles yesterday with my 2019 ram 3500 Cumins wile pulling a 10,000 pound camper and it did great! I’ve never driven a better pulling truck before! Props to ram on their amazing trucks!

[@James-by1fr]

I just got a new truck a couple weeks back and thanks to your channel I was more informed on the trucks then most of the salesmen at dealers!

[@RobShutt357]

Hey guys! I have a 2016 dually 4x4 with Aisin, I drove from San Diego to Memphis and back empty and my average was 16.2mpg . I drove from San Diego to Cleveland towing 19,000 lb fifth wheel and averaged 9.5mpg. My truck has 15,000 miles on it. I hope that helps you.

[@yassercespedes2971]

RobShutt357 when your warranty is done and you be able to take the egr out and run a tuner you will get a lot more out it got an older 2011 without egr and with mini max tuner and I get a little over 20 mpg at 65 mph

[@Tabbycat12923]

What rear end ratio do you have in that truck?

[@wileymonair]

My 97 F350 7.3 CrewCab Dually averaged 18-20 mpg empty, it had 450~ HP and 925~ lb-ft. It also had 580,000 miles on it. I miss that truck everyday. I wrecked it, bent frame, body came off frame, still ran and drove. Guy bought it, drove it home, rebuilt it, I bet it's still on the road today!

[@hickboy3067]

I think you meant 425 torque?

[@breakablevidsnoobstar6361]

My 2018 F-150 5.0 averages 12.1 MPG's under normal driving conditions this Ram is awesome

[@congnghe6010]

You must be heavy on the gas. My 2017 5.0 averages 16.5 MPG combined.

[@workhard3994]

no way your getting 12.1 do hand calculate not what's on your screen

[@dchawk81]

Red light racer.

[@savethe2strokes]

To everyone saying this is a bad MPG. Their AVG speed was over 70mph. They said they had long stretches of 80mph, which is about 130km/h. Depending on where you live most speed limits are far lower than that especially here in Canada. I bet it would get 17-20mpg on the highway here in Alberta at 100km/h. In my experience trucks get far better mileage 90-100km/h than anything over.

[@jnk26]

Laws of physics state best speed is 96km/h(60mph). When you cross that threshold the effort to maintain speed or accelerate increases exponentially. They can gear how ever they want it will never change. Mpg is very dependant on speed especially with a large vehicle.

[@savethe2strokes]

jnk26 exactly lol the shape of a truck is hardly better than pushing plywood down the highway.

[@jnk26]

@@savethe2strokes aerodynamics do help, but a truck that is 80" wide(96"@ dually fenders) and 78" tall going 80-85mph is still displacing a ton of air. Whether it's a bus(102"w x12' h) or semi of a car of low coefficient drag it will always use more energy above 60 mph. Fluid dynamics will always apply. Gas and liquids move the same way, one is far greater in density that all.

[@abramar123]

Man that's a good looking truck.

[@ThenotMrNiceGuy0109]

It is, but I'm not a big fan of the large computer screen inside

[@WeatherxCalipha]

@@ThenotMrNiceGuy0109 Only the Limited comes standard with the 12-inch display, every other trim comes with a 5-inch or 8-inch display as standard.

[@abramar123]

@@ThenotMrNiceGuy0109 Well it is optional, you can still get physical buttons, if you wanted.

[@TXetc]

I’m a Ford guy usually and I agree, Dodge is really stepping it up lately.

[@jedironin380]

I think RAM makes the best looking duallys. The fender flare on the Ford dually looks like it was tacked-on as an afterthought.

[@brisonpalmer6730]

My Ram with the Cummins improved by about 2 mpg after putting about 15,000 miles on it. I trailered my Jeep LJ from KS to Moab UT and got 13.8 mpg average with my 14 Ram 2500 CC 4x4. Non towing I get 19-20 mpg hwy.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

The Cummins take a lot longer to break in, if you don't tow with it.

[@joshualong9569]

Wasn’t really a fan of Rams but I really like this one.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Same 100%

[@shawnmckee14]

Klaus Van Heusen gotta keep in mind they didn’t have the emissions they have now

[@kiho1995]

I drive 2000 Subaru Forester daily in australia towing between 0.5 to 1.2 ton with tools in the back doing between 14 and 17 Litres per 100 KM (16.8 and 13.8mpg) around town and 10 Litres per 100 KM (23.5 mpg) on the highway. so definatley not bad for a big dually.

[@BIGDAVE5352]

They need to have a 48 gallon fuel tank on the new Dodge Ram 3500.

[@jasonwilliams3223]

Just go to Titan and put a 90 gal in the bed

[@hammerheartdan6311]

Buy a slip-tank.

[@daves913]

F350 has a 48 gallon.

[@chevyon37s]

Just buy a 4500. 74 gallon total between the tanks, better brakes, stronger axles etc....

[@davidn5861]

Does Dodge still make trucks?

[@UtahBigfoothunter]

Another good video guys. I live about 40 miles from Green River where you checked the mpg on that beautiful Ram 3500. I wish my 2009 Dodge Ram 3500 dually diesel got that good. When not pulling my trailer, I average approximately 5 mpg and pulling my big trailer, it averages about 2 mpg. It takes me two tanks to make it to Las Vegas from Green River, when pulling my 38 foot trailer. Pulling my trailer up Spotted Wolf on I-70 , you can actually watch the fuel gauge move before reaching the top. The truck has 4:56 gears and I've had it at the dealer and at independent diesel shops literally hundreds of time complaining about the mpg, but every one tells me that it's normal.

[@motohobo8826]

You need to test a 3.73 ho aisin vs a 4.10 ho aisin mpg and towing test

[@BFord-ho3pq]

Math geek here: averaging the MPG calculations from each fill-up a does not result in the same overall average as dividing total trip miles traveled by total trip gallons consumed. In this case the difference is very minute, but if it were a longer trip with more fill-ups at different increments your calc could be way off.

[@chrwar0624]

I am on my 6th Ram diesel since 1996. Only going off the 6.7 though, they all seem to really jump up in MPG at about the 10k miles mark. They take some time to break in, then you really see an improvement. Of the last 3, after the 10k mile mark I would be between 19-21 mpg on them. I only see 15 when towing a heavy trailer. So the MPG tests on brand new diesels is a bit misleading on what you will eventually get. However, new, that is pretty close to what I was seeing as well.

[@russnurse2b807]

Hey. Do you still have the truck? I'm thinking of getting one from 2019 and am wondering what the mpg is now for the highway and in the city? It will be a hauler for a RV and my daily driver. If you still have the truck do you mind sharing this info. if you have it?

[@T51B1]

FWIW, my 2019 Ram 2500 gets 21mpg unloaded going down the highway at 65-70mph. They are getting less mpg in this truck because it's a dually, low gearing, speed they are traveling at, etc. That faster speed and low gears brings the revs of the engine up and eats the economy up. Def and emissions really is not that big of a factor as some seem to think it is.

[@chrism2042]

It will improve as the engine breaks in. I have a 2018 crew cab Limited 4x4, HO 6.7 with Aisin trans, 3:73 gear ratio. I checked it on road first trip where I go approx. 120 miles with cruise set on 75 mph on I40, no bed cover. When truck had approximately 600 miles on it, that stretch of highway I averaged 16.4 mpg. I made the same trip yesterday, close to same outdoor air temp, truck now has 13,000 miles on it and it averaged 18.5 mpg. With the trip I made yesterday I have approximately 50 miles where I can set cruise on 58 mph once I get out of congested traffic. Yesterday it got 23.2 mpg, when it was new it was getting 21 mpg.

[@AkioWasRight]

In fact, Cummins doesn't really have traditional engine break-in periods. Actual break-in is 300 miles, and that's simply to break-in the rear end of the truck before towing. The Ram Manual states, "A long break-in period is not required for the engine and drivetrain (transmission and axle) in your vehicle. Drive moderately during the first 300 miles (500 km). After the initial 60 miles (100 km), speeds up to 50 or 55 mph (80 or 90 km/h) are desirable." Well, they're well beyond the 300 mile break-in recommendation. As for mileage, I don't believe you got anywhere near 23.2 MPG on any HD truck, certainly not after regeneration and in real-world conditions. My truck's display will lie to me and say I'm getting 20+ MPG regularly, but it falls to around 17-18 MPG highway on a good day after it regenerates.

[@chrism2042]

@@AkioWasRight - I have purchased a 1999 2500 new, then a 2005 3500 new and now a 2018 3500. Every one increased in fuel efficiency as I put miles on them. No matter what you believe, I just checked it yesterday after that trip. Those numbers were from the computer on the sections of highway with different speeds. But, full trip real numbers at the fuel pump. My trip consisted of 398 miles to and from, I have a lot of driving on interstate prior to getting in slow/stop & go traffic for several miles through Raleigh NC morning traffic then 55 speed limit of highway and slowing traffic through towns for remainder to destination. Then the same trip home with similar evening traffic. I stopped and topped off tank 7 miles from home on return trip and checked total trip mpg. Even with the traffic congestion to and from I still averaged 18.8 round trip with approximately 240 of the miles being around 75 mph and a lot of miles is stopped and slow traffic. That's pump numbers on a stock truck.

[@kevins5469]

@@chrism2042 As far was we're concerned, that's anecdotal evidence. People say all kinds of things about their mileage. Besides that, every vehicle tends to see improved MPG as it stacks miles, at least to an extent.

[@chokekoo983]

@@kevins5469 They should wait for 100,000 miles to know its real mileage.

[@chrism2042]

@@kevins5469 - I didn't mention it for evidence, just stating how mine changed after getting some miles on it.

[@jimbrown7082]

Nice review. My friends that own Ram trucks with the diesel engine have told me that their trucks mpg improved after 15k to 20k miles.

[@polishking4372]

Actually mine Got worse After 20 k .Only getting 10 mpg locally Hauling trailer And 16 mpg Emty on highway

[@polishking4372]

Before 20k miles I got 12 mpg locally

[@ricwestdoesitwork]

That MPG isn't to bad considering the engine isn't even broken it yet. Thanks for sharing Andre and Nathan.

[@wantu2much]

People don't see or look how many miles are on the truck. Give it some time and the fuel economy will go up. And also winter blend fuel. Once it warms up the fuel economy will go up.

[@Rift45]

Very true, my Cummins was pretty thirsty until I had 5-10k miles on it

[@bretfeeney1072]

These new trucks don't need very much time to break in like the older motors with flat tappet cams that needed extra zinc in the oil. I think this MPG is horrible, should be getting 17MPG on the highway carrying no extra weight with a bed cover on it. 20 year old truck get this mileage.

[@gooru1297]

Thanks to our government for ruining all fuel mileage... My 04 5.9 Cummins gets 25 mpg empty and 19 towing a 14k trailer

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

Bret Feeney uhhh.. Straight from the owners manual, if you don't tow right away to break it in, it takes close to 15,000 miles to completely break in.

[@Foltyn444]

Not bad.my 2018 ram 3500 empty giving me 11 to 12 mpg with towing 30000lbs 8 to 5 mpg.i really love the 2019 model.i can’t wait to get one of them.

[@nilsvanleeuwen6637]

Hi guys if you want to average the MPG, please take into account the mileage. In this case both MPGs being close it won't change much. Your work is great keep at it!!!

[@ze_german2921]

I bet you could negotiate $15K from the MSRP, I got $12K of my 2015 2500 MegaCab. It had a Sticker of 64,420 and I paid $52420 and it was in April NOT a end of the year deal. The Higher the MSRP the more wiggle room they have. I used to sell Porsche back in 2005 and Porsche had between 10-15% mark up. That means you could sell a 911 with 10K off sticker and still make a nice profit. BTW, I average 19-21 MPG in my 2500 being all stock, I get 16-18mpg with a Carli 3-4" Lift with 35" tires

[@davidrosenkrantz4854]

At first I laughed because my 2018 Chevrolet 3500 HD gets 21 mpg at freeway speeds. But this route they traveled climbs up and down almost every mountain range in Utah. I doubt you could find a tougher one to test the truck. Some of the grades are 15 miles long and very steep, and they have a lot of runaway truck ramps. It's got to be the Ike gauntlet of mpg runs. I doubt my truck would do much better.

[@55afishead]

What are you talking about? Utah has mole hills compared to Colorado!

[@Broadpaw_Fox]

@@55afishead - you apparently haven't driven that stretch of I70. As a truck driver based out of Denver, I know that stretch intimately, and op is right. It's one of the worst stretches of road for fuel economy testing. Really a worst case scenario. Beautiful drive though, especially in the afternoon. Sunsets are inspiring.

[@55afishead]

@@Broadpaw_Fox I agree somewhat. But when you go downhill your getting great MPG. I was just stating the hills are steeper and a lot higher in Colorado. I drive I-70 through Utah a dozen time a year and hardly notice the hills at all. Yes, beautiful views!!

[@mortgoldman1521]

Have a 2006 5.9. Last year no emmision crap. Love it . 620 lbs is plenty torque

[@nickgraham7813]

Never in all my days would I have dreamed a pickup truck would have a price tag like that. I know that it's the top of the line, but my goodness. My heart doctor warned me about this

[@chriskarsseboom2200]

Nick Graham ford cost more

[@nickgraham7813]

I realize all the tech in these trucks ramps up the price, along with the materials used in the interior, overall the entire trick is more expensive to make. I get sick even when I see the sticker on the base models. On a positive note how about the torque numbers these new diesels are making! My 2011 3500 srw duramax cruises comfortably with our 32' 5th wheel at highway speed. I can't imagine what the new ones would be like!

[@harleyjackson5513]

@@chriskarsseboom2200 but Ford is a much better truck!

[@TheJoetrap]

I just drove my ole 2003 ram 3500 5.9 to glenswood colorado from dallas texas and averaged 20.1 mpg and with 18.9 with a loaded trailer on the way back. The lowest i got was 16 mpg on the up hills on the mountains

[@eatshitful]

Yea the new trucks look more like a high priced DOWN grade!

[@davidtaylor5811]

My '03 Silverado 1500 gets the same mpg empty with only me driving. I need to upgrade soon!

[@BigSam-gt1mo]

I used to drive 04 an 05 ram diesel's cross country for a leasing company. I typically got 17 in a 2500hd daul cab short bed HO 5.9. I noticed hills and mountains had little effect on mpg. Rpm's mattered more. The higher the rpm the worse the mileage. So on leg fom Allentown PA to long island NY back to Allentown I got 20 mpg. Because the speed limit didn't get above 60. Unlike the 70 to 75 in the west.

[@billcantwell3287]

87,000 for auto dimming headlites and a grill that opens and closes ? All that electronics stuff may work dandy when new and clean...but when frozen slush and mud of the real world happens ?

[@rsg1963]

Anti-Ram or Pro-Ram, that truck is a genuine beauty.

[@edwilson9243]

It will bring MUCH better economy after break in. My 2018 Ram SRW 3500 CUMMINS AISIN ( 930 lb ft) after 25000 miles gets 20 MPG highway driving. At first it was only 14/15 MPG.

[@streetchicken5738]

I agree. 2018 3500 6.7 SRW 68RFE. New - 8000 miles 13/14 city and about 16/17 hwy. Expect it will increase around 15K

[@BuckInchuteranch1]

Great video and I’m glad I’ll keep my ‘03 7.3L. Took a trip from California to Texas. Never went slower than 75 with A/C running the whole time and averaged 18.3mpg.

[@corylee2261]

Im not a Ford guy but they dont make em like that anymore...the 7.3 was a monster

[@moose5.9]

And that motor also has half the hp and torque and no emissions lol

[@YENKOGT]

Hey thats my mpg too, im between 18.3 and 19.8, depends on how much highway i hit, but with too much traffic im down to 18.3. 7.3 are so solid !

[@TheCamaro5]

in my opinon the 7.3 was the best they ever had. I wish they still let international make their engines.

[@moose5.9]

@@TheCamaro5 cause the 6.0 and 6.4 came out so well? Lollll

[@TheCruzman2]

I'm curious if you notice what I notice in my truck. With the DPF trucks. If you work them hard for a half of tank of gas at highway speeds and then run them empty I get as much as 4 to 5 more MPG better once empty. This increase in mileage last for about 350 miles before it settles back down to standard levels. (2013 Ram 2500 avg mpg 16.9 Best ever 23.5)

[@markkropf8295]

Big truck and low gears take a huge hit at 75 to 80 mph. I would dare bet 4 to 5 mpg better at 70 mph vs 80 mph.

[@brandondannys-menary3678]

Yeah, if that truck was cruising at 55-65mpg it would have done much better

[@michaelwillcutt2619]

Transmission evens out the 410 to be higher gear ratio 3.90 ratio

[@Richardsmithabcd]

I read a few of the comments on the fuel tank capacity. More would be better, but most people can't sit in the truck and drive it utilizing it's current fuel capacity. They're going to stop often, eat, restroom breaks, snacks etc. As a long haul trucker, the same vehicles pass multiple times over and over. Driving for long stretches isn't healthy for you anyway. An extra fuel stop to get out and stretch your legs could be a good thing.

[@NuclearSandwich7]

Everyone is comparing their “20 year old truck” to this new one talking about how it does better fuel economy wise. Try slapping all the emissions crap into your 20 year old truck and see how it does. Hate to break it to you, but if you delete these modern trucks you’d be surprised at how well they do mpg wise. Not that I’d know anything about that..

[@Bailey_54R]

That is the first and most important thing to do to a diesel truck. Full egr delete. Better reliability, mpg, and power.

[@connorrichardson2580]

And way less HP. Hate to admit it. BUT if you don't need to haul 35000lb then you save nearly $100,000. sooooo comparing to there old truck isn't such a dumb idea.

[@NuclearSandwich7]

Connor Richardson cost is a whole other ball of wax. But you are right in that you can save a big chunk of change. But I don’t know where you are from, but I can’t find a used diesel worth a damn where I am from. Either 300,000 miles or it looks like a high school kid spray painted it.

[@connorrichardson2580]

@@NuclearSandwich7 I'm from Alberta oil country where most of our diesels are all beat up and a abused lol but you definately can find some low k ones under 10 grand. But fair point.

[@parkerjon29]

Yeah lets kill some kids with Asthma.

[@tonyst8741]

I own a 2008 3500 not dually and get 15mpg no load 9.1 hauling two atv and a 32 foot camper . I can't see why I will buy the new 1000 pound ; and I don't have to buy the additive the new one use's! Pricey gentlemen!!!

[@TheDrewPeters]

I’m surprised you two didn’t make a detour through Moab with that! Imagine that thing on hell’s revenge! Awesome

[@rickysafer2895]

You guys are so lucky to get to drive that brand new Ram 3500.

[@rickysafer2895]

@Chris Jacobs I'm just saying ,most people can't afford a truck that cost this much and if you are truck guy who wouldn't want a chance to drive a big brand new Ram 3500 dually like this across country.

[@rickysafer2895]

@Chris Jacobs I understand I'm an older guy who owned a construction outfit in the day and I just enjoyed driving the dually trucks.

[@davidharris9259]

Chris Jacobs you probably couldn't afford it. What do you drive one of those 6.0 6.4 pile of shit powerstrokes no body wants, because you can't afford a real truck jealous loser.

[@davidhillbrand2302]

Was this a 4.10 geared truck?t highway speeds, 15 is not too bad with 4.10's.

[@dennisfowler1281]

Yes, it is the truck they used during the testing with Ram it has the MAX tow package which only comes with 4.10's.

[@iivaridark6850]

But they didn't tell anyone what kind of revs were there at 80mph... It has 1000lbs torque advertised but at what revs? Tops HP at 2800? Tq at 1800?

[@redwood6737]

@@dennisfowler1281 thanks for pointing out the 4:10 gearing. I have the same truck from 2014 and I am getting 15 MPG currently empty. If I put on my arctic fox 990 camper which is actually too much weight for my truck I get only 10 MPG. Thinking about upgrading to the Ram 5500 so I could have the 10ft toolbox bed with a backpack toolbox between the cab and the camper. The only limitations to that are the insurance could be quite expensive if I was commercial hauling. I've heard it could be $28,000 per year. Registration could be as much as 1,500 per year

[@leehancock2782]

Good, Especially for a brand new truck

[@135tp]

something to consider: I'm pretty sure the mpg numbers that Rams display on the dash are instantaneous readings and don't necessarily show the the total average mpg

[@jamesvelvet3612]

It is an average, not an instantaneous reading. You can probably set it to show instantaneous if you were curious. The average reading on the dash is for that particular fill-up, not a lifetime average (although that might be a menu item in the display).

[@Tombomb1816]

it can show both.

[@Stokesman101]

Good job, that’s a long drive. I can’t wait to see the mpg on the 3/4 ton diesel (little less weight and power) as well as the mpg on the new 3/4 gasser w/8 speed.

[@dondavidson3440]

I am way late to the party but with a dually, mountain driving, 8000+ lb truck, 4.10 gears, etc………then add the fact that there was snow on the ground (WINTERIZED FUEL = poorer mileage)! So one can say that was not too bad at all.

[@joem8875]

Great idea with the moving flaps behind the grille but all this stuff sounds like a disaster to work on. Fixing anything in a new vehicle is such a burden, that is, if you don't have to remove the cab to check the oil /s. Love the technology and everything about it but price and ease of repairability kill this new stuff for me

[@johnwall713]

It's actually not that bad. Working at a dealer, I deal with it all the time. Trucks are not nearly as bad as compact cars. Trucks look bad when you look under the hood, but it's really not that bad.

[@redwood6737]

I have the same truck from 2014. As far as stuff going wrong we have gone through 9 recalls, and now currently wondering why if the truck sits for a week the battery voltage drops from 12.4 down to 12, there must be some sort of parasitic draw. While moving stuff near the truck one day I noticed that the bed light came on and so did the tail lights like when you hit the remote to turn on the bed light. My neighbor came over and told my wife while we were gone that our truck headlights are on, when they went outside to look they were off. Luckily the lights are not staying on long but something in the computer is automatically turning these lights on and they probably stay on for about 1 to 2 minutes such as the feature when you're walking to your house door when parked at night. I do have a battery charger handy but another hassle with my brand new $70,000 truck, although it is 4 years old now with only 30,000 miles. Took the camper off and I am enjoying driving it without the camper for a while but I do love my arctic fox 990 camper .nice to have room to store everything you need and not have it blow out of the bed or get stolen. Getting 15 MPG just like these guys or 10 MPG loaded with the camper

[@amossnowdaharleyman9179]

I have a 2017 heavy spec'd Ram 3500 long bed crewcab 4WD. High output diesel with the Aisen tranny. Gearing is next below the 4:10's but can't remember off the top of my head 3:80's something.. At 65mph with my normal daily load of 2000 pounds in the bed I'm getting 18.6 mpg. At 75 it drops to 16.5ish.For a truck the will tow 30,000 pounds(done it) that's not too bad.

[@b0lbi]

Emissions killed diesel fuel efficiency. So you put out less emissions but 2x as much. Old 5.9s got in the 20 to 25 mpg on the highway...

[@eatshitful]

Yea there is no way burning MORE fuel makes less emissions total! Remember the old Dmaxs with there weed burner tail pipe? That didn't help emissions one bit it only mixed more clean air before it got out the very tail of the truck. Total was the same. About like the 70s putting air pumps to pump clean air into the exhaust lmfao!

[@ryanstuckey8677]

not to mention when the exhaust filter is full it burns itself out I wonder where they think it goes then

[@eatshitful]

@@ryanstuckey8677 You got that right! Then the extra fuel burned trucking them things around the country to replace them and recycle used ones ect ect. These climate change nuts don't realize most of this crap pollutes more not less lol

[@MrErichonda30]

Not duallys

[@dchawk81]

Old 5.9 isn't gonna legally tow 30k though either, nor will it be as safe in doing so. I like my old IDI too... it's basically factory straight piped with only a muffler. But there's just no capacity comparison. If you need capacity you don't have much choice.

[@ag123789]

You have to break the diesel engines in before you will start to see good gas mileage. The best way to break them in is to tow heavy trailers. Once they are broken in, which is usually around 75,000 to 100,000 miles, you will easily be seeing 25 miles a gallon on the highway. (Not pulling trailers). I have a 15-year-old Ram 3500 dually that gets 28 mpg on the highway.

[@regsparkes6507]

Not bad, not bad at all!

[@daltonharrington1229]

Is it me or is at 8:03 that $88k truck right fog light not working? I noticed it one day on a maroon limited 2019 half ton truck a couple months ago also where I live what's the deal?

[@coltonjacobs5383]

They aren’t the greatest with electronics. The dodge vehicles tend to have issues with their electronics as well.

[@Ted_Stryker]

I guess if ya' gotta drive all that way just to find some, "Beaver Tacos", you better be gettin' some good MPG... 😂🤣

[@eatshitful]

15 is good to you??? The old cummins get better then that with a trailer behind them! Even turning them up to the "claimed" power rating this thing has.

[@desmondmoonbear8149]

My dad's 2008 Ford explorer V6 gets 12 mpg at best so 15mpg for a HD truck is awesome

[@bigirr]

27mpgs Indianapolis 2GrandRapids 30s temperatures 28mpg Jacksonville 2 WaDC 31mpg Ok City to Dallas Tx 27mpg Houston to El Paso Tx 27-33mpgs freeway 60mph 18-20mpgs city driving 10-18mpg off road 10-18mpgs tow 6kLbs Boat 2015 2500 Cummins 6spd 4x4 4door Crew cab deleted 4" pipe, KN flat air filter camper shell EdgeCts2 computer 20gallon extra tank hitch 3 light bars =970watts, Setup as 1st responder, 10,200lbs weight same mpgs since deleted by PFdiesel.com @78k 25-32mpgs freeway 20-25 city, 10-20 off road Avg.MPGs From 78k to 200k Efficiency is measured TonXMiles per gallon used by scientist in the diesel truck industry.5.2tonsX28+mpg= 146TonMiles/gallon😀 Toyota Prius is 3200=1.6tX50 mpg=80Tmiles/gallon 😆 6 way MPG math calculated= 1-RAM computer 2-Garmin gps 3-Google maps gps 4-USGS maps gps 5-AAA maps Android 6-hand=4 semesters calculus Diesel ECONOMY TIPS 1:Speed 55 & rpm 1500 2: Close Windows 3: No items on top of car 4: Make truck aerodynamic 5: Inflate tires 2 maximum 6: High rear end gearing3.42 7: Factory tall tires 8: 5-40w Synthetic Oil 9: avoid 4x4 driving 10: Remove excessive weight 11: Fuel is heavy too 12: Plan journey wisely 13: warm up engine 14: clean outside 15: Avoid RAIN 16: No aggressive driving 17: Don't over-rev. 18: Gear fast, slow & accelerate 19: Avoid idling. 20: Overdrive & cruise control 21: Ele&AC worsens MPG 22: Exploit cruising down hill 23: Avoid a complete stop 24: red>roll in neutral gear 25: Tune engine to low HP 26: Change oil regularly. 27: Replace air filters regularly. 33: Leave early Family drama 34 constant Mph=Mpg 36: avoid drama & stress 37 Park in shade 38 distance to prevent braking 39: Forced induction =MPG 41:Rough asphalt tire wear+7% 42:Use brakes to slow down. 43change fuel filters often 44change power train oils 45avoid wider tires 46avoid jacking truck height 47used tires =better MPGs 48TenDegrees=HalfMileMpg Obama Diesel Exhaust😥 Cooker warranty expired 80k. 3rd Cooker😭 by 75K so @78k I deleted. Saving fuel & costs 10c mile = $1000/10,000 miles😀 Or $10,000/100k miles😀 So if I deleted@0, 210,000 = $21,000 fuel & cost savings 2016to2018😀

[@haydenbriggs]

I have a 2010 F150 5.4L, 6in lift on 35s. I get 14.5mpg commuting to and from work. I also put premium fuel in my truck which is nearly the same a diesel where I live. I can say... I'd be perfectly fine with trading up lol.

[@Fireball1946]

$87 K...be still my heart...me owing one is only in my imagination!!!

[@bigbossman5969]

they do have cheaper models thats just a top of the line model

[@i-like-turtles4900]

Sweet Jesus, almost 90k. Looks like I'm going to be keeping my '15 3500 for a long, long time.

[@MrSpccdavid]

Mike Murphy you don’t have to buy the loaded model

[@pipeline_hank5277]

My 20 year old 1999 ford powerstroke 7.3 with a 6 speed gets the same fuel mileage

[@the_ghee_spot]

105Percent_American I can say the same thing as my bulletproofed 6.0, but we don't have all the restrictive emissions equipment, and even with my hot tune, am still pushing less torque. I'm wondering what the new Cummins can really do if it were deleted.

[@Tombomb1816]

your 7.3 is not emmisions restricted. It also wont haul anywhere near as much weight and see how it compares when towing equal loads up a mountain.

[@MrSpccdavid]

That’s impressive since my old 6mt 7.3 only got 14 after straight pipe and tune

[@scottback3020]

That’s a terrible MPG. My 2015 Ram 3500 with Aisin got 21.7 mpg on my 950 mile trip from Ohio to Florida back in December. Didn’t get fuel until Macon Ga. but still had almost 1/4 tank. That was almost 600 miles on the first leg of the drive.

[@eichler721]

You had more miles on it once broken in diesels always do better

[@Gerrendale1]

This is my dream truck. Idc how much mpg it gets. Lol.

[@Bailey_54R]

When you buy it do a full egr delete. Mpg and reliability will greatly increase along with a small power increase.

[@justinluttrell1769]

For $87,000 I could think of a few dozen more satisfying vehicles lol.

[@americansniper1641]

@@Bailey_54R that's like buying a royal blood canine and then chopping off its balls

[@siphotos3282]

I need it for my company.

[@concreteuprising7426]

I ran a fleet of them. Don't get to optimistic about the truck... I was running 3500's, 4500's and 5500's. I think that to give a proper review you need to call a dealer and tell him you need a water pump (a 3500 issue). You will find that they don't make or stock the parts. It took 5 weeks to get a water pump. I had electrical issues in 2 of them. You can regen the system, but you can't reset the computer. The reset has to be done by a dealer. These are 2016 issues, so I don't know if Ram fixed them. I dropped Rams and went to Fords. I would rather pay extra and not look at a new truck broken down in my lot.

[@rockycadieux4642]

I’d just add a in bed diesel tank, 50 or so gallons.

[@Valentinesilvas210]

After a delete and tune I get about 21-22 Mpg on my Ram 2500 Cummins on the highway with a my self, full tank, 35 gallon reserve and about 200 pounds of tools..(that’s about 475 pounds of fuel.. and 17-18 city... when towing 8-10K pounds bumper tow I average 12MPG.. I did the delete for life expectancy of the motor at 9K miles when new... I have about 45k so only time will tell.. oh I have bds 3”lift on 35’ E rated nitros and I never play with the tuning for rolling coal.. not my thing..however with I do on the fly shift for preset tunes..man it holds the gears and the torque pushes you back..

[@UltimaRSfan]

You guys should Dyno it to see how close to 1000 lb ft it actually is.

[@joecanis484]

I once had a new 2003 Ram Laramie dually quad cab 5.9L Cummins diesel. I would average 18-20 mpg on my trips between Denver and Albuquerque with no load other than the driver and fuel. For my RV use of the truck, I prefer the better mpg than the often unneeded 1,000 torque figure and no DEF tank. As I remember, I paid around $34,000+ for my truck. The need for DEF, diesel fuel costs, ,and the crazy prices for a diesel truck today has turned me off on ever buying one again. I will buy a gas engine next time. The new 1/2 tone trucks pull what once required at a minimum a 3/4 ton truck. I know there is a market for that new Ram monster TFL drove back from Vegas, but it has outgrown me in too many ways.

[@EGGINFOOLS]

Heaven forbid! A column shifter? Oh no! Lol

[@justinluttrell1769]

Sounds like you hate the stupid dial and button shifters as much as I do.

[@tommckinney3136]

If something's not broke don't fix it. That stupid dial has no place in a truck. Its not like the column shifter was taking up desperately needed space. Its worked great and been reliable for roughly 60 years and it works even if you have electrical issues.

[@EGGINFOOLS]

I do hate it. The TRX coming out will have a console shifter. FCA likes the design and is talking about adding it down into some of the other models. It'll be a while though if it trickles down but the TRX is 💯 getting a center shifter.

[@EGGINFOOLS]

@@tommckinney3136 I love everything about the column shifter.

[@damaliamarsi2006]

I have a 2016 RAM 2500 though not a dually and get 23mpg on long trips. I do have a bed cover and keep it at 70mph. This is with the 370hp 800 torque and 68rfe automatic. This is also in the mountains, down at lower altitudes I get about 20mph in thicker air. 370/800 is way more power than I would ever need. I have towed 12500lbs 19,550lbs CGVW and was getting better mileage, probably due to gearing. 1000lb feet and 400hp with 4:10 is stupid towing power.

[@iliketocomplain1007]

Bro I get a vibe that the guy driving the truck doesn't like beef jerky

[@sleepscenes2585]

Same lol

[@2003evodave]

I have the same truck and as soon as you rev over 1.8 RPMs the MPG drops off every 1/10 higher you rev. So at freeway speeds with the 4.10 gears you are only going to get 14-15 mpg however if you can keep the speed at 65 mph or even less 55-60 you can get 17 -19 easily. 55 mph = apox 19-20 mpg 60 mph = aprox 17-18 mpg 65 mph = aprox 15-16 Over 65 you are screwed! I will be installing a manual over drive like I did on my old Ram one ton which lowed the RPMs enough to still tow and yet cruse at freeway speeds and get much better MPG at higher speeds.

[@clintymouse]

The truck will probably get around 19mpg empty once it has some mileage on it

[@markm0000]

It will get 25mpg when some of the garbage under the hood falls off.

[@terrywaters6186]

picard When they quit running 80 mph it will.

[@steeleexpressllc990]

I have a '19 HO ×/ 4.10 gear ratio (dually pulling a 44' gooseneck flatbed trailer). My best mog empty has been 10.5 mpg. Worst was loaded with a 17K lb, 10' tall generator (4.7 mpg) Help !!! What can I do to get better fuel mileage ??? [e-mail]

[@yohnny8839]

Ram has by far the best looking truck right now.

[@krane15]

The Fords look alright they're just a different style which isn't a bad thing. I just wish Ford wouldn't stamp "SUPERDUTY" into the hood.

[@tdgdbs1]

I'll keep my pre DEF Cummins; regularly hit 22 mpg empty. Thanks but no thanks EPA

[@krane15]

So far no reviewer of these trucks has mentioned that you do not get the panoramic sunroof on the HD version RAM despite having identical cabs. Not sure why that is. Anyway, how did you guys feel during/after the trips? Can you speak a bit about the comfort level of the trucks after hours behind the wheel? Any aches, pains, sore spots, discomforts? Any seat adjustment needs? I have long legs so very few vehicles other than luxury full-size sedans ever offer enough thigh support support for me. I dread road trips because of that. Anyway, thumbs up as usual.

[@averyw.3939]

I don't think the cabs are the same from the 1/2 ton to the 3/4 ton and up, the interiors are very similar but the HD still has the old sheet metal on the outside.

[@hammerheartdan6311]

Not bad for a massive truck tbh. My father in law's '16 Ram 2500 diesel will get 8.6L/100km (27mpg) on highways cause I'm pretty sure he has a 3.21 rear end.

[@bags4930]

3:42

[@michaelsmedberg8447]

My 2015 Silverado 3500 HD DRW long bed with 3.73 rear end and the allison trans would routinely get between 18 and 19 on the freeway cruising between 65 and 70 with 4 people and some gear in the cab and the bed. The MPG you are seeing isn't really that great from my perspective.

[@jsdny1]

Michael Smedberg different gearing

[@Zraupp10]

80 MPH? why you driving so fast ?? 70MPH is kinda fast, do the trip going 68 and 65 you will see a huge MPG gain !

[@pulvermacher80]

Not many people drive 65 70 for 1000 plus miles. Myself and I have a Cummins usually drive 75 80 on the interstate/highway. Sometimes faster if I keep up with traffic.

[@Zraupp10]

@@pulvermacher80 thats not safe at alll, I have not problem drive 65, in fact im use to drive 58 to 60 most of my life,

[@nickx831]

@@Zraupp10 no shame in that! Just stay the hell out of the way.

[@Zraupp10]

@@nickx831 what you driving ill be sure to be -D

[@nickx831]

@@Zraupp10 Pink Toyota Yaris.

[@peiguy1982]

The Ram only uses the last 200 miles to calculate MPG on the EVIC. Regardless if you reset trip or not. So on both runs when you were descending truck showed optimistic.

[@SixPackDan]

CRAP mpg on the new trucks. My 2004 quad long bed gets 21 with 4 people and a dog.

[@anthonymarinelli1869]

Dan Sertich it’s not crap only for the reason of yes it only gets 15 mpg but it has 1000 lb of torque compared to half that on a 2004

[@MrInnovativeEnergy]

@@anthonymarinelli1869 1995 12V cummins, 1Ton dually, gets 25mpg empty as it has for the past 447k miles. Not sure why, but it beats my 24V 2001 dually by almost double.

[@OIR339]

@@anthonymarinelli1869 Lol its crap, my 1998 12v 5 speed gets 19-21MPG and makes nearly as much torque with the AFC turned all the way up

[@T51B1]

It's totally dependent on speed of travel and aerodynamics, weight of truck, and some emissions. Older trucks usually do better on mpg because they weigh less and have less emissions equipment they have to run. There's always a trade off

[@MrChuntaro]

I remember when I got my new 2004 Dodge dually diesel. The MPG was good but after about 10,000 miles it get better and continues to get better. New engines are still tight and need to be broken in before you start seeing better MPG.

[@davva360]

Like the design, not sure I would trust all those electronics in a Ram though. I love my 5.9 powertrain but the rest of the truck is poor.

[@chevyon37s]

davva360 the new Ram trucks are ten fold better than they were when they were back when your 5.9L was made. Fiat buying up Chrysler/ Dodge/ Ram was the best thing that has happened to improve quality of the products.

[@therealjohnsmith4811]

Really? www.tfltruck.com/2018/10/surprise-chevy-hd-and-ram-hd-trucks-land-on-consumer-reports-least-reliable-cars-list-by-owner-survey/

[@therealjohnsmith4811]

www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorzelany/2018/10/25/the-most-and-least-reliable-rides-on-the-road/#80e71a452c74

[@strikeeagle6871]

The trucks mpg will get better as it gets broken in more. I just averaged 19.7 on my latest tank full in a very hilly area in Pa in my 2018 Ram 2500 HD with the 6.7. Cant get it past 55 mph because of the speed restrictions and road conditions. I am hauling a trailer out west in a month and i am very interested on how it does and mpg on the interstate.

[@z1osufan]

That gas tank small asf

[@jefft3120]

Fuel tank buddy

[@clintmullins4406]

If I had dollar for every time somebody told me their Cummins got 25mpg I’d be 8-12 dollars richer. None of mine ever did better than 19mpg.

[@rsg1963]

Hahaha, good one! :-) My 2016 6x6 Dually with the THEN big motor (900 ft lbs) and 4:10 gears will get 19 highway with 34" tires on 20" rims and a 45 Gal tank in the bed. IF....IF I keep the speed down to about 65-70 and at sea level. Otherwise she averages about 17.5 Highway, 12 city.

[@jimbo5635]

Potato chips are the ideal food to add weight. Lost 40 lbs on KETO. Beef Jerky for the Win.

[@jl4091]

I do the high carb low fat.Gained 200 lbs.

[@chevyon37s]

Jim Bo looks like Nathan has been eating too many potato chips 😂

[@darens440]

Hah! TFL needs a KETO sponsor so they can lose weight and get faster 0-60 times! Although most beef jerky has added sugars making it not great for Keto..

[@jl4091]

@@darens440 They go to Snarf's for lunch.(local sandwich shop in Boulder)

[@aaronbritt2025]

This is why I bought a 1/2 ton diesel instead of the 1 ton. I get 23mpg in town and 29 on the highway. 3.0L Powerstroke.

[@chadhaire1711]

This tows 35,000 pounds dummy.....yours will NOT

[@aaronbritt2025]

@@chadhaire1711 obviously I don't need to pull that kind of weight, shit for brains.

[@jamesrodriquez2863]

They will be passing out free snowcones in Hell before I pay 87K for a pickup truck! And I sure am not impressed with 15 mpg either.

[@55afishead]

Maybe you can afford a used Prius.

[@jamesrodriquez2863]

@@55afishead Never said I can't afford one, smart ass.

[@55afishead]

@@jamesrodriquez2863 hahaha!

[@jamesrodriquez2863]

@@55afishead :D :D :D

[@Intrepid175a]

Fuel economy isn't great, but isn't that bad either. The thing I'd be interested in seeing you do is put that thing on a dyno. I know those things can be effected by a lot of variables but I'd be curious to see if that truck really puts out 1000 ft/lbs of torque. Any number in the ballpark would be ok with me, even if it wasn't all the way to 1000.

[@aroundthegroundlandscaping7107]

Beaver tacos🤣

[@1drummer172]

🤣👍

[@shawnhaas5158]

My 09 Chevy 2500 HD with a 6 liter gas struggles to hit that kind of mileage unloaded. With a trailer or a heavy payload I'm looking at 6 to 7 miles a gallon. So I think that Dodge is doing pretty good.

[@eatshitful]

My old 90s cummins does better with a trailer on then this new one does empty! This is really horrible actually!

[@georgecass8529]

Lol i get 21 with my 2001

[@MrSpccdavid]

George Cass no one cares

[@the_ghee_spot]

I'm picking up my 3500 in June and driving it back 750 miles back to Broomfield, CO. The elevation change may not be as drastic, so I wonder if the mpg's will be better. I guess we'll find out in June!

[@renaissancepoet]

The Ram dually has the sexiest looking hips compared to GM & Ford....... and I bet eating beaver tacos in them taste better too. ;)

[@mattharris7256]

I work at a ram dealer and in reality these trucks get very poor fuel economy. The dashboards display average fuel economy so I see that every time I get in one. Yes some people buy 3/4 ton diesel for their highway commute and get 18mpg. But the trucks that are used as trucks (for example 1 ton duallys equipped with flat beds or fifth wheel hitches) come in displaying about 8mpg average fuel economy. The upfitted trucks with big “work truck tool box beds” get even worse mpg. But hey, you don’t but one of those things for the gas mileage, lol.

[@danielgoetz7821]

That really is a gorgeous truck. 😍

[@darkhorse2reign]

For comparison, my 2018 Ram 3500 SRW Aisin with 3.42 gears, gets 21 MPG bobtail and 14 MPG with a 6,200 lb 30 foot gooseneck. Those dual rears and gear ratio hurt MPG something terrible but help some other things.

[@nkyryry]

Does anybody honestly care about the fuel economy in a Ram 3500. I mean honestly... does anybody care.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

A little bit.

[@chevyon37s]

Super Viral Sick Vids the people who do hot shot trucking and anybody who uses the truck as a piece of equipment for their business certainly care about fuel economy. A truck that costs the same as a competitors truck but gets better fuel mileage doing the same work will be a much better investment.... even half a mile per gallon better adds up to a lot of money saved at the end of a year for a small business, and even more for a bigger business.

[@robertbaratheon9289]

People who drive it everyday do, especially those who drive more than 15 miles a day.

[@nkyryry]

Drew w people who can afford this vehicle can afford to put fuel in it.

[@drewelliott9062]

I'm more interested in the range it has than mileage.

[@josiahamthor6424]

My 2015 f 150 has shudders/louvers behind the grill and you never hear anyone bragging about that.

[@bryandepiazzy8769]

Josiah Amthor my 17 ecodiesel has shutters and? It’s simple technology that they added to the next generation ram. Difference is the ford is broken down to much to for the shudders to be used

[@shawncordeiro1150]

poor mileage

[@dochollywood1921]

Take into account the size and weight of the vehicle, along with all the emissions bullshit that destroys fuel efficiency, and that makes perfect sense.

[@alexs3187]

Duallies don’t get the same mileage as SRW trucks, but that being said, I was still unimpressed for a straight highway / cruise control run.

[@shawncordeiro1150]

@@dochollywood1921 no excuse for the trucks size 999 torque eliminates that, Maybe the emmissions theory thow

[@dchawk81]

70-80mph.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

No its not!