430 horsepower 475 torque Just saved you 8 minutes
@michael42655 жыл бұрын
Thisisnotedward you’re my hero
@randyvinson79285 жыл бұрын
Thisisnotedward thanks
@Ricardargas-dy9tf5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It took a while to look for this
@akman19315 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@devinbender84285 жыл бұрын
Thisisnotedward EXACTLY what I was expecting . 30 more HP and 10 more lbft than Chevys new 6.6
@RyanRKJ5 жыл бұрын
It seems to me like the majority of negative comments here are not from people who drive commercial vehicles, or oversee the maintenance of commercial fleets. Ford was not designing this engine for the Mustang, or trying to make the F-250 a race truck.
@kbarrett18445 жыл бұрын
Ryan rkj - Well said!
@alexs31875 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@sean-yb5hc5 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right, brother!
@bigal66845 жыл бұрын
Very good point......peak #'s are essentially meaningless in this application. Off-idle response and power up to normal shift RPM is key.
@fread515 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@booya64375 жыл бұрын
In what world is 430 horsepower and 475 pound feet of torque low for a gas engine? This is meant to be a workhorse and if anyone has looked at the dyno charts, they would see this engine makes 400+ pound feet of torque at 1500 rpm - this engine is hardly disappointing
@JAMESWUERTELE5 жыл бұрын
Boo Ya I’d like to test drive one when they come out.
@kelvinhill98745 жыл бұрын
lee hancock did you miss the part of the video when they showed it and talked about the high torque number at 1500rpm?
@TheDaltonmichaels5 жыл бұрын
i mean gas big blocks were basically pumping out the same numbers in the early 1970s with the same displacement , so the numbers at face value really aren't that impressive , but these engines probably run on 87 octane and will run for 300k miles before any major service where as the old big blocks lasted 100k miles if you were lucky , ran on premium leaded fuel and got 6 mpg no matter how you drove it,, and that was in a car lol.
@booya64375 жыл бұрын
Dalton Michaels And is there something wrong with that? I’m honestly not seeing why this is a problem. This engine is meant to outlast your interest in it, not to be a race truck.
@TheDaltonmichaels5 жыл бұрын
@@booya6437 i think you missed my point. im saying these engines are clearly superior in every way , even though the power numbers at face value really aren't any higher than they used to be.
@johnbergeron50155 жыл бұрын
The numbers are low because it has a tow cam with relatively low peak torque but a very flat and long torque curve. Ideal for a truck.
@thomasjackson38334 жыл бұрын
I am sure it can be tricked out for a fun project car
@Matt-mh5ud5 жыл бұрын
This thing is so old school I might just shed a tear. More than enough horespower, low-revving, and VERY impressive torque curve from off idle up. This thing finally gives die hard fans that loved the old 300 or 460 something to clap for. Being so unstressed, it should last a lifetime.
@dre04mach5 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling they built in a lot of overhead on this engine and won't take much to revise it next time GM and dodge get a power bump... They've been toying with GM lately - usually with the diesels.
@ahmirbaileysfitness56425 жыл бұрын
460 gassers are still better😯
@som1alive5 жыл бұрын
Brother I have to agree. I hated and still do hate the twin OH cams in almost ALL the new motors. So good to see old-school lifters and ONE CAM!!!
@dre04mach5 жыл бұрын
@@som1alive For efficiency and streetability at high power, you can't beat the twin OH cams.. Once you crank up the power, the coyote will stay much more streetable, whereas the big blocks will barely idle, make no vacuum, and get 6mpg...
@6bt_str864 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I can see this thing having that typical Ford "Seasoned crispness" that the 5.0 HO had with it's tried and true dependability 🤘 Im all in on this giant "lizard"
@ryanmartinage5 жыл бұрын
400 lb ft at 1500rpm in a NA gas v8. Thank you ford. This is how trucks should be.
@ejcheli5 жыл бұрын
Totally! So sick and tired of these tiny little 4 bangers with turbos bursting at the seams trying to rev to 12000 just to get power in a truck.... so dumb.
@hellojoe705 жыл бұрын
Get a diesel
@ryanmartinage5 жыл бұрын
Chris Stewart or I’ll get a solid big block truck that’s easy to work on, makes a lot of low end grunt, and to top it off several thousand cheaper. This is the engine to get unless you really need the diesel.
@errickkitchin365 жыл бұрын
I agree here. I have a feeling Ford will sell a lot of these. Companies will love them and so will normal people. Plenty of people want more grunt than what the 6.2 has, but don't need nor want a diesel.
@WilliamStewart15 жыл бұрын
@@hellojoe70 couldn't pay me enough to buy a modern diesel pickup truck.
@NukePooch15 жыл бұрын
Seriously impressed. For the use case, it's more than enough power, and as long as there's no 'oops' in the design, this will last forever. This engine makes total sense in a HD truck.
@brianaustin61845 жыл бұрын
N Pooch agreed,I think this engine fits the hd market better then the 6.6 gasser Chevy and 6.4hemi
@wrzl16755 жыл бұрын
Brian Austin it’s only 29 hp and 5 lb ft over the Chevy 6.6 which means it will have undetectable “seat of the pants” power gains over GM. Like he said, they thought it would make a lot more power being that it’s a 7.3 and they’re right because that tiny power gain is nothing.
@donrichter35235 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but 6.4L still has cam/lifter wear problems, and Ram still rates their engines using 89 octane. Who the hell is putting 89 in these. Optimize the engine for 87!!
@NukePooch15 жыл бұрын
@@wrzl1675 In HD vehicles that are meant for fleets and severe work conditions, it's not about a huge power gain, it's about durability and efficiency. Having approximately the same amount of power in a larger-displacement, less-stressed engine, it's possible that this engine will be immensely durable and long-lasting.
@adamstansbeary17645 жыл бұрын
I'm more curious about torque between 1500 and 2500. Can it cruise and pull a hill with a load and not shift. So annoying when going over rolling hills and you have to chose between staying in a low gear or letting the transmission shift for every little hill. Peak torque only matters if it's in the low end of the rpm range to me.
@mikegoliath86784 жыл бұрын
Dont compare this to diesel, you can still get a diesel. This is big power for folks that dont want the diesel issues. Ford did really good here.
@jbird11735 жыл бұрын
The 7.3 powerstroke made 250hp 505 ftlbs. For the gasser to get close to that torque and almost double the hp is impressive.
@jpippinator5 жыл бұрын
The 7.3l Powerstroke is the perfect engine for towing. It’s not fast but plenty of torque and the detuned larger displacement engine is a reliable workhorse. Even if they reissued that engine, it would be raped with emissions systems. This 7.3 gasser seems like the next best thing.
@andrewwelch75615 жыл бұрын
Agree with Jpippinator. Also it's hard to compare an engine made 20 years ago to one made today
@Potatorq5 жыл бұрын
7.3 powerstroke was the king of durability. My 2000 f250 has 340k miles with the original engine. If the new 7.3 gasser can be that durable it would be an incredible engine.
@Michaelation085 жыл бұрын
@@dsch1znit 😂😂😂😂
@gjolinares235 жыл бұрын
@@dsch1znit 🤣
@teop78875 жыл бұрын
Ford has publicly given an explanation for the "low" power numbers: Enables to run at a lower compression ratio Less stress on the motor, less overheating, more durability Allows use of heavier duty parts Allows use of regular fuel Allows for a flatter torque curve Engineered specifically for heavy towing, at constant speeds, not bragging rights. Done. ✌️
@deandrej6745 жыл бұрын
lower compression you say? sounds like ford engineered this engine for the aftermarket to get their hands on and slap on a Turbo or supercharger and give it BIG BOOST numbers
@ratman57275 жыл бұрын
Yep, made to do work, -all day, everyday. This is going to be a great engine. The GM 6.0 is the same deal, de-tuned to run the living crap out of it all the time, and survive. Besides, these are exceptional power numbers, especially for 100% duty cycle, -in fact, the real question that begs to be asked is, -who else can make these numbers right now? -And at 100% duty cycle? -Yeah, the answer is nobody! Even as a GM guy, I am giving Ford a big thumbs up on this one!
@crankychris25 жыл бұрын
If you ask, which engine should I put a blower on, 6.4 HEMI, or FORD 7.3; the answer is obvious. As is, it will make a great motor home power plant. With boost, it will make a 1000+ hp reliably, unlike a Mopar 6.2L.
@verbotn4 жыл бұрын
To me the explanation is that the Ford engineer mentioned the commercial market as being the inspiration for their performance targets, the commercial fleet purchasers will be more concerned with fuel efficiency than having obscene amounts of power.
@jaymase37354 жыл бұрын
That is the exact recipe for reliability and durability. Finally Ford is turning around their engineering department. The decision to partner with GM to build 10 speed was an even better decision. Ford is sure turning things around.
@alexstepanski5 жыл бұрын
I love everyone talking trash.12v Cummins were 175hp/400tq. This is a easy to work on gasser with a cat/simple egr system.
@55afishead5 жыл бұрын
Diablodrift well your right about one thing. You will need to work on it! Lol!
@morgan-xv9bc5 жыл бұрын
So a 7.3 diesel has low stats to yet both can do a million miles no sweat somthing a gaser cant do without a rebuild plus do easy mods on a diesel and them numbers get bigger where a gas u cant
@cooperallen2825 жыл бұрын
That's just stock, upgraded you can easily get that number up
@chickenknucklez26044 жыл бұрын
@@morgan-xv9bc I like the 7.3 diesel but as far as the new diesel's I would take this 7.3 gas or a v10 any day. Be there done that!!
@55afishead4 жыл бұрын
@@alexavila8690 www.cars.com/articles/what-are-the-most-reliable-cars-for-2020-hint-genesis-lexus-make-em-418187/ Heres a list of the most reliable. There's a search engine named Google. Check it out and then you won't have to ask me for this info. LOL!
@UncleElroy215 жыл бұрын
That engine alone could bring this Toyota guy back to Ford. No replacement for displacement! And thank god it’s a pushrod motor.
@stewbird46765 жыл бұрын
Agreed, have my name down for one already
@39impala5 жыл бұрын
When did toyota make heavy duty trucks?
@mark70675 жыл бұрын
@@39impala The don't, and no one suggested they did.
@wildbill23c5 жыл бұрын
Me too, except wasn't all that impressed with the build quality of the 2nd gen Tundras, power from the 5.7L V8 was fine but the axle bearings didn't hold up long, and I had the front diff howl/growl issue that resulted in a replacement front diff both issues occurred early on well below the 100k mark, and resurfaced around the 102k mark...was far from impressed with these recurring problems that Toyota couldn't seem to fix...and they're vehicles are outdated by several years....granted its a full size truck that Toyota was trying to pass off as a heavy duty truck for a few years, it wasn't even close and the front independent suspension gave me several alignment issues in areas that were never a problem with a solid axle. If they want to go heavy duty they've got a long...long ways to go, because their current Tundra isn't even close....not even borderline HD 1/2 ton with the issues I had with very light towing/hauling duties.
@som1alive5 жыл бұрын
This 100x. No more TOHC!!! Garbage technology and overcomplicated engines.
@roninespiritu5 жыл бұрын
omg they sent an engineer and not a Salesperson. I'm impressed.
@gabemarlin5 жыл бұрын
Everyone who is complaining about the “low” power forgets that this engine runs at 14:7:1 air fuel ratio all the time, even under full load. The 6.4L Ram runs around 12.7:1. So the 7.3L is 13.1% larger but uses 14.6% less fuel per unit of air, so for a given RPM and load, assuming the load is enough to make the 6.4L enter enrichment, the 7.3L will be using less fuel than the 6.4L and the 7.3L will be making more power. The engineering of this engine is very impressive, especially given that peak hp and torque are only two of thousands of considerations that the engineers have to account for and are but a small picture of the character of an engine. Full torque at 1500 RPM paints a better picture. The DIESEL 7.3L of 1999 only made a tiny bit more torque and much less horsepower and it had a turbo and intercooler! A simple tune to make the new 7.3L run the same air fuel ratio as the 6.4L Ram would result in a power gain of roughly 20 hp, math is 14.6% more fuel = 5% more power due to the thermal efficiency of gas engines (around 30%), but of course would result in worse fuel economy. (Edit) I’m sure my math isn’t perfect but is good enough for quick KZbin comments.
@uknowimright62695 жыл бұрын
@gabemarlin..my '99 250 sd crew has 400,000+ on it was water pump and transmission at just over 300,000. Wish the new ones were like it
@gabemarlin5 жыл бұрын
uknowimright6269 Not arguing against the old 7.3L at all. Would take one in a heartbeat over any of these newer trucks. My 1st gen Cummins is still truckin’ with 260k w/ only a water pump change at 230k
@kevintucker33545 жыл бұрын
Andrew Smith You are talking shit just to hear yourself talk shit. I’m embarrassed for you...
@Treyk9015 жыл бұрын
Andrew Smith go away troll.
@musclebone78755 жыл бұрын
@Andrew Smith I agree. Should be 550hp/600tq
@AkioWasRight5 жыл бұрын
Peak numbers aren't important, the torque curve is.
@15Jeep4 жыл бұрын
Yes.....along with durability and reliability.
@systemsoundbar52535 жыл бұрын
Ford's 6.2 and 7.3 are the only v8s available now a days that require regular fuel and doesn't have the direct injection and cylinder deactivation , stop and go crappy technology that will comprise the durability and reliability of these engines. Last of the true v8s.
@foxwithshades70805 жыл бұрын
I thought the 6.2l and 7.3l had both port and direct injection.
@systemsoundbar52535 жыл бұрын
@@foxwithshades7080 no, just port fuel, however Ford's newer 5.0 mustang engine is both port and direct injection.
@foxwithshades70805 жыл бұрын
@@systemsoundbar5253 that would be my confusion. Ya I guess they are then. The 6.6L Chevy made is Direct injection, but no premium required and no AFM. I believe the 6.4L Hemi is premium fuel.
@SkeldZ065 жыл бұрын
The GM 6.0 didn't have any of these things either. The GM 6.6 has direct injection but not the other things you mention.
@pryme20135 жыл бұрын
Toyotas 5.7 uses regular fuel and has none of that crap....its why I have one.
@ES44AC-25 жыл бұрын
The moral to this story is the manufacturers are tired of meeting over burdensome emissions requirements for diesel engines. New diesels are much more expensive to maintain due to B.S. requirements. Ford and GM used to make engines that had their HP & Torque in the low rpms in the 60's ,I guess what's old is new again.
@whiskeytangofoxtrot94035 жыл бұрын
Amen to that my 6.7 diesel is crazy expensive for everything and you have to take it to a dealer to code everything or pay $600+/ yr for IDS. Factory power makes 400hp 800 lbft torque and pulling 14k lbs it makes easy work of it.
@quintindowell94985 жыл бұрын
@@whiskeytangofoxtrot9403 yes parts are expensive, I have a 16 comes with 440 and 860, but I use forscan which is free and it reads just about any module and pulls the codes on the newer Ford's.
@Garth20115 жыл бұрын
Yep, truck makers may as well invest more in the gas engines for light duty trucks. The DPF/DEF systems add too much cost and maintenance to the new trucks plus, of all things, the engines fail long before they should, area of 150,000 miles and they are worn out from high heat levels. If you are lucky, you will get 150,000 miles but many will see engine failure at 90,000 or so. Sad for those diesel markets and they average another $11,000 in cost.
@chrism19665 жыл бұрын
Garth Clark I’m no fan of dpf/def but these trucks are lasting a hell of a lot longer than 150,000. I work in the hot shot industry for a company out of Indiana with 1500 drivers and the bulk of them are newer pickups of all makes with well over 300k miles on these truck. Though personally I use the 5.9 Cummins 03 came stock with no cats or egr. 😆
@Garth20115 жыл бұрын
@@chrism1966 Most of the failures are coming from vehicles that spend much time on short trips, city driving etc. Those who are on the road for long distance tend to benefit best as the temps are always in the upper range thus the DPF doesn't regen so much. As I known it, below 30 MPH none of these diesel will regen ever.
@jigsaw33345 жыл бұрын
When I saw it was gas, I wanted to hate it. But wow. 400ft lbs at 1500rpm for a gasser, even Chevy and Ram are twisting their mustaches figuring out how they are gonna compete..
@ratman57275 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this one is going to be a great engine...
@DarkLinkAD4 жыл бұрын
Nah, the old 8.1 non vvt made most of its torque at 500rpms. (depending on the application ofcourse). Displacement takes the voodoo out of the equation.
@sntstafford5 жыл бұрын
Modern day incarnation of the low-rev 429 of the 6th gen medium duty F-series; redline at roughly 4000 rpm, slow as a worm on hot asphalt, but would pull anything, all day long, with the occasional oil change thrown in for good measure.
@BetaRacer245 жыл бұрын
6:32 is HP and Torque Numbers 430 Hp @ 5500 rpm and 475lb-ft at 4000rpm.
@bobbyj8705 жыл бұрын
Not all heroes wear capes....
@phattygoodness73475 жыл бұрын
To me, that's pretty unimpressive. The Ram pickup 6.4l Hemi is 410/429. For almost an entire litre more of combustion area, it just doesnt seem like theyre generating a significant increase of power. Maybe it is...but on paper it doesn't seem impressive to me and the fuel economy has got to be addressed vs the power. Is it worth it?
@Toxically_Masculine_Crusader5 жыл бұрын
@@phattygoodness7347 I get what you're saying, but I guarantee you economy is going to come into play. Dodge's are notorious gas guzzlers. The 6.4 in a power wagon is an awesome machine, but after doing just a little bit of upgrade work you are in the single digits for fuel economy. Also, another thing to think about, this engine is designed to go in trucks built for pulling. Having over 400 ft lbs at almost idle is going to make a world of difference for beginning to move. I am ready to see what type of fuel economy these engines will be providing. I feel that is where this engine will end up shining.
@robertjohnson47845 жыл бұрын
You guys don't get it ford just went backwards back to a single camshaft because their modular engines were notoriously known to give problems especially with the camshaft on top of the valves new motor single camshaft coils on top of the valve cover looks like a LS engine to me Chevy 6.2 L 420 HP 460 ft lb of torque they jumped up to a 7-3 to make 10 more horsepower LMAO
@kevinanglin6785 жыл бұрын
@@phattygoodness7347 6.4 is more of a performance type of motor than a work horse motor just like Chevrolet old 8.1 in early 2000's
@ninersforlife76825 жыл бұрын
Good video. I have read some of the comments where people are saying it doesn't have enough HP or TQ and it should have made more for a big motor. Of course it can we should all know by now whenever manufacture comes out with a new motor they never give it its max horsepower and torque because if they did they would have to make significant changes to it in another year or two automakers always gradually build HP and TQ. 😊
@willvaughan57345 жыл бұрын
Andrew Smith you big stooooopid, clearly you don’t understand this motor is perfect for its intended customer.
@Rj-to8qm5 жыл бұрын
@Andrew Smith you don't need any more for this. Less power=more reliability
@Treyk9015 жыл бұрын
Andrew Smith you’re the joke here. That engine is designed for towing and hauling, not racing. This engine is making big tq right off idle meaning it gets the load moving easily and maintains speed and acceleration without drama and high revs. And it can do it all day everyday reliably and the engine will last long doing it.
@rogerfreas41395 жыл бұрын
Identified as a ram/ gm troll, sour grapes!
@eclipsegst94195 жыл бұрын
@Andrew Smith holy shit you're stupid. It's a truck engine. Swap it in a project vehicle and I guarantee it would make 600+ with just a cam and tune.
@scottconn625 жыл бұрын
That was one flat torque curve.
@greasysteve56715 жыл бұрын
Just like the 300. Pullin stumps at idle
@scottconn625 жыл бұрын
@Jbog07, I'm guessing it will do well in this application since it optimized for low rpms and higher loads. It's funny. I have a Mustang and I've read a lot in forums about people wanting to supercharge this beast for drag racing. I'm sure that will become another revenue stream for Ford Performance and other suppliers.
@roninkraut68735 жыл бұрын
Greasy Steve One of the best Ford engines EVER
@candyred3v5 жыл бұрын
@@scottconn62 the last gen gt500 had 500 footpounds at 1500 while this has 400. supercharges this thing could hit 600+ at the same 1500 rpm range with some other mods as well.
@scottconn625 жыл бұрын
@@candyred3v, I think 600 would be easily achievable. The thing is that, in a Mustang, the nose would be way too heavy to be in anything but a drag car. That is unless Ford Performance pulls an aluminum rabbit out of their hat. Make it out of aluminum (heads and block with steal liners) and you would have an engine that would probably be manageable for a Mustang and completely evil in a Raptor.
@toddharper-ok5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the HD gas engine showdown when all 3 are available. Thanks TFL, I appreciate your guys' work to make these videos happen. And Mr. Truck is great too.
@christopherking20125 жыл бұрын
Give it time for some guy to work that engine over. It'll make 600hp w/o a sweat.
@crankychris24 жыл бұрын
9-10 lbs boost, it will be closer to 800 hp.
@bosse6415 жыл бұрын
Oh my, salivating. That 7.3 N/A V8 is something I really would like to have in a truck. Awesome.
@MikeL-vu7jo5 жыл бұрын
forged steel crank awesome strong way to go , 430 hp at 4000 rpm , nice , hats off to my employer .
@cup_and_cone5 жыл бұрын
Everyone: Canadians talk slow Stephen: Hold my Moosehead
@joparsons204 жыл бұрын
if you thought he was talking fast you should here some newfies….
@markhull13663 жыл бұрын
From the research I've done, the 2020 Gen1 10R140 Torqueshift Trans had a lot of problems with an internal chain and caused very early failures. Ford had to replace a lot of these with a Gen2 which corrected internals. All 2021's had these installed. The engine appears bulletproof and they're already cranking 750+ HP out of them.
@Digit09z5 жыл бұрын
Looks like Ford built a gasser that should outlast their diesel.
@robertrichardson99535 жыл бұрын
I'll keep my million mile diesel
@bandabanderos5 жыл бұрын
Not that hard 😂
@areed12345 жыл бұрын
put it in the category of the 7.3L diesel for simple and long lasting
@eclipsegst94195 жыл бұрын
@@robertrichardson9953 bet it isn't a new one. The old 7.3 IDI and 7.3 Powerstroke could do that easily but I've never seen a 6.0 or newer with over 500k
@darrin20535 жыл бұрын
The big 3 have all have something I like, Fords diesel is NOT one of them
@DoRC5 жыл бұрын
The engine is designed for the commercial market where longevity is much more important than wringing every last ounce of power out of an engine. It's the same reason that the same diesel engine will make a lot less power in a medium duty commercial application than its consumer counterpart.
@JaredGrissett5 жыл бұрын
Cam swap away from 500+hp.. this engine would be sweet in a Fox.
@philllsxga.77375 жыл бұрын
Ha !! KZbin stock bottom end record. KZbin k.p. mustang...
@kscott97065 жыл бұрын
Hot rod magazines doing one as we speak
@crankychris25 жыл бұрын
A clean Crown Vic sleeper with 10-12 psi and a pair of M/T's in the cavernous trunk. :))
@randythompson40065 жыл бұрын
This engine is all about a flat torque curve. 400+ ftlbs at 1500 rpm. It'll be a great towing engine.
@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V85 жыл бұрын
with a GCVW rating of 25,000 pounds or more, you need to drop cylinder pressures if you want to extend engine life, which is precisely what Ford did
@brandonh.88825 жыл бұрын
Modern technology and old skool come together, this is the result!
@mrlariata92905 жыл бұрын
This could be the truck I buy. F350 red, crew cab, long bed, in a lariat package. I'm excited.
@victorbeltran58665 жыл бұрын
Mr Lariata probably $85+
@n1n0z245 жыл бұрын
Diesel or gas ?? Im buying one in the near future to use it a as rig welderbut im not sure what engine to choose
@TheBigFunOne5 жыл бұрын
victor beltran not for a gas powered lariat more like 58,000-63,000
@06RedfireGT5 жыл бұрын
@@victorbeltran5866 Not even close. The only Fords at that price are optioned out Platinum or Limited duallies.
@rickyde02555 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for this to show up in class a motorhomes.
@dre04mach5 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling motorhomes were one of the biggest demand for this motor... the 6.2 just didnt' have the torque to live up to the V10's numbers... and they finally had to have a replacement for that in the medium duty stuff.
@curtisgarren60695 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that Ford will do a slight redesign in a few years, and bump the numbers up. For a gas engine to have that flat of a torque curve, I believe it is detuned. After this engine builds a bullit proof reputation Ford will bring on the power. Ford has done this many times. Just look at the modular power numbers go up through out the years.
@WilliamStewart15 жыл бұрын
No one cares about peak numbers inna work truck, the curve and longevity is what should take priority over all else.
@curtisgarren60695 жыл бұрын
Agreed but, No one needs near 1000 ftlbs of torque out of a diesel either. But that's what we all want. In order to sell more trucks than other auto makers they give us what we want.
@curtisgarren60695 жыл бұрын
5.4, 6.2, 6.8, all superduty gas engines since 2000. And all recieved a power upgrade.
@WilliamStewart15 жыл бұрын
@@curtisgarren6069 The diesel part I 100% agree with, to me these small displacement V8 diesels making the power levels they do now is a ticking time bomb in my eyes. 200k throw aways now.
@matthewc12065 жыл бұрын
The commercial 6.7 is detuned for longevity anyways.
@danielduvall6875 жыл бұрын
Going to be a damn good motor. I’m more a Chevy guy but I’m liking this and the direction that Ford went with this. Sounds like the whole drivetrain will be a solid performer with great durability.
@mmcalifornia86005 жыл бұрын
Hmm, funny how everything comes full circle. Nice to see them building real engines like International and the old ford engines were built
@swss125 жыл бұрын
about time they started caring about HP below 4000 rpm. no one towing with trucks rides high RPM all the time. better to have low end power and torque
@eklaiss5 жыл бұрын
I can't wait til you guys get to tow with it up Ike!
@eklaiss32685 жыл бұрын
Dirty Harry I agree! Lol
@wildbill23c5 жыл бұрын
@Dirty Harry I don't think they have the driving skills to tow that fast.
@XxMusclecarsxX5 жыл бұрын
Look at the block, heads and the valve angles!!!! That thing awesome, looks like a nascar engine
@marcmo71385 жыл бұрын
looks like a LT4
@Stlthpntr4 жыл бұрын
@@marcmo7138 Looks a lot like a Mark IV 427 big block fron the '60's.....look at the angles of the valve springs sort of like a "porcupine" design. Solid engineering from the '60 too. And Dr. Oldsmobile said in the early '60'es that a wedge shaped combustion chamber was more powerful at lower rpm than a hemi...he was right too.
@DanielJaegerFilms5 жыл бұрын
This is basically the old 7.3 Powerstroke diesel from a couple decades ago, but gas. It’s built for durability, is obviously de-tuned and will probably run forever. With those power curves, all they have to do to stay above competitor power numbers is re-tune it. Seems like a good idea to me.
@gen-x-zeke84464 жыл бұрын
I like where the oil filter is. I also love how clean it is on top.
@DeezNuts-sx9jd5 жыл бұрын
If Ford could just bring back the excursion (based on the 2017+ Super Duty) with the options of either the 6.7 Powerstroke or the 7.3 gasser, mated to the new 10-Speed Transmission that'd be great.
@billhumme52285 жыл бұрын
Yeh. What happened to the excursions. I have two with the v10 . Thinking of dropping a 632 gas engine in it.
@DeezNuts-sx9jd5 жыл бұрын
Emissions killed the Excursion, so Ford killed production after 2005 in America, and 2006 in Mexico
@CreatedMind5 жыл бұрын
Would love to have one based off the new trucks!
@chuckmuellerleile87295 жыл бұрын
I'd be first in line if they ever brought back the Excursion. My 02 is getting pretty tired with 300k plus.
@chris14515 жыл бұрын
@@DeezNuts-sx9jd No, public opinion killed the Excursion. At the time, the environmentalists were louder and screamed about this truck as being to big. Never mind the suburban was as big. Ford had no problems meeting emissions. It was a double standard that killed it.
@TheTerribleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Power seems about right. The large displacement just means the engine doesnt have to work as hard to make the power and makes beefy torque nice and low. Plus this engine seems to be overbuilt so should be about bulletproof.
@EGGINFOOLS5 жыл бұрын
Why aren't people impressed with the numbers? Sure it's 7.3 liters so you naturally think big power numbers, but it was design to work low rpm and do it for hundreds of thousands of miles reliably. Not race at the track. This is why the GM 6.0 crushed the others in this area of longevity, reliability and cost over time. It didn't have the same hp and tq numbers as other 6.0s because it was designed to be a work horse and it did its job.
@Si0nbarzahd5 жыл бұрын
Nobodys is impressed because we had gas engines like this 20 years ago, dodge 8.0v10, Ford 6.8. Were all engines like this. This one has more hp, but they because it revs higher.
@donrichter35235 жыл бұрын
What a tard! Those engines got shit fuel economy, and durability wasn’t anything great. Nor did they make these power numbers in actual HD truck use, Viper numbers don’t apply here. With a 14.7 vs the typical 12.7 air to fuel ratio, the fuel economy on these should be greatly improved, especially under a load.
@smrtguy777775 жыл бұрын
And people wonder why Toyota still has their 5.7 from 2007!!! It’s called reliability and durability. Can’t believe Ford even admitted it took a step back because their super duty customers want more durability, amazing. Heard so many horror stories about ecoboost, it’s nice Ford is recognizing that.
@pryme20135 жыл бұрын
The 5.7 is excellent, I have no plans to trade in(down) my Tundra. And they have been using a 4.30 gear set since 2007. Ford finally got on board lol
@BUILTDIESELMAFIA5 жыл бұрын
Anyone complaining about these numbers are just being silly. IT'S A WORK TRUCK ENGINE. Its tuned for longevity. Its torque curve is also stupid awesome. 400 ft lbs at 1500 rpm!!!! Theres plenty of room left to up these numbers in future models.
@duane97075 жыл бұрын
Looks like Ford made this engine bullet proof. No doubt a mild supercharger will get the torque and HP past 500 easy!
@StoneysWorkshop5 жыл бұрын
I am excited about this commercial focus on gas. I will be purchasing a service truck so I will be happy to check this out
@PatrickRich5 жыл бұрын
so basically they just took a page out of gm's book. I don't mean to diminish the accomplishments of the engine team at all, I think the devil is in the details, but it shows what real users have known for a long time about the inherent advantages of pushrods and cubes for packaging, torque, durability and economy. On that last note - we wont get fuel economy numbers as I'm guessing there isn't a single vehicle this engine will go in thats class 2a, everything will be 2b where fuel economy numbers aren't required to be published. Its interesting that its not too far off a 20 year old big block design in terms of peak torque. I had a vortec 7400 that peaked at 410 lbs-ft @3200 rpm back in 97 (before supercharging). Got crap mileage but it was strong everywhere and the mileage didn't take a real hit with a load.
@buckhorncortez5 жыл бұрын
Took a page from GM's book? .Sure, because Ford has never produced a push rod motor...? I guess the 460 doesn't count? 390? 302? 289? 351? Etc., Etc.
@chris14515 жыл бұрын
Stupid gm bs. Ford does it first. Ford does it best. Push rods are best for trucks. Not in sports cars like comaros and corvettes. Ford wipes gm's ass in every category. gm... God's mistake.... Even gm's latest big truck gasser is lacking compared to Ford.
@brly45425 жыл бұрын
This was a good move, not looking to just make a huge peak number. Should be an awesome HD engine, looking at the torque curve it should perform like a 6.8 v10 with a tune, very similar power levels
@jakechaplin97665 жыл бұрын
6.8 is gutless compared to this
@randybrandes88855 жыл бұрын
My 04 v10 has 538000 miles now and still running strong
@roninkraut68735 жыл бұрын
Andrew Smith Alright man, I’ve seen you comment on nearly every thread. You’re either a troll or a Chevy/Mopar fanboy which is nearly the same thing. Go back to your link’n’logs and let the grown ups talk
@arnoldoluna3625 жыл бұрын
@Andrew Smith 500,000+ Miles. How unreliable it could be?
@jeepcollector915 жыл бұрын
I'm just happy Ford is keeping the E-Series in production for many more years. If only Ford would bring back the van configuration of the E-Series.
@acdii5 жыл бұрын
3.5 EB power in a Superduty gas. About time Ford! That flat torque curve is amazing when towing, should be a great addition to the line up.
@gerrygamache56775 жыл бұрын
Good old single cam pushrods and lifters proven they still have lots of power and a nice low center of gravity.
@MikoMuru5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great engine to supercharge. =)
@cmusic525 жыл бұрын
that and a new cam
@lanceripplinger83525 жыл бұрын
Old school V8 finally. I bet this thing will see some heavy modifying by enthusiasts. Especially if Ford makes this available in a crate motor package.
@jameshenson48715 жыл бұрын
I have predicted this engine will end up in a few hot rods. I would love to see the measurements compared to a 302 or 351W based engine. Just for kicks and giggles I would like to see the size compared to fords modular engine and throw in Coyote measurements for entertainment purposes.
@mistamaog5 жыл бұрын
Numbers don't disappoint. Looks like an awesome engine
@goldranger69144 жыл бұрын
I'm loving Ford's 2019 and 2020 lineups. I just bought a 2019 Ranger in November, and these 2020 Superduty's look badass. I've never owned anything even close to a full size truck, but if I were in the market for one, Ford would be my first stop.
@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts5 жыл бұрын
With that torque this is easily a 500+ hp engine with a couple of mods, especially since it's an ohv
@milojacomilo_a90055 жыл бұрын
Wow!! You do know that the RVrs are going to love this outstanding engine with that 10speed so the RV manufacturer are going to dive into this one so Ford will have to make allot of those.
@kens97sto1715 жыл бұрын
Nice... Looks good. So.. Ford finally figured out why Chevy and Ram have been using pushrods.. In a bigger V8 your not reving the engine that much. Simplicity, compactness and reliability.. Over dual overhead cams.
@henryw.15875 жыл бұрын
Had nothing but OHC problems out of my 5.4. Chains and cam phasers were replaced twice by 150,000 miles...truck did have a hard life, pulled trailers everyday. Got tired of it being in the shop though. Nice to see a pushrod engine.
@kens97sto1715 жыл бұрын
@@henryw.1587 Yeah the 5.4 is notorious for the cam phaser issues.. along with spark plugs either shooting out or getting stuck in the head depending on which year and valve setup it has. Unbelievable....
@henryw.15875 жыл бұрын
@@kens97sto171 Only thing nice I could say about the truck was I never once serviced or had a transmission issue at the time I sold the truck. Thats about it...had it about 3 years and spent about 4-5 months total in the shop getting the motor torn apart and put back together. Was not reliable.
@kens97sto1715 жыл бұрын
@@henryw.1587 Yeah.. that motor was just not a great one.. and such simple things like spark plug problems and cam phasers..lifter. these are NOT things that should be problems from a manufacturer that's been building cars for over 100 years.
@henryw.15875 жыл бұрын
@@kens97sto171 the truck just didn't need that type of setup. Those 5.4s just aren't that high revving to begin with...my 2006 5.3, 170,000 miles, still have not spent a single cent on motor issues. Been cooling and transfer case issues. The GM LM7 engine is a tank. Owned a few 00-06 5.3s...tahoes/suburbans/sierras... Same story.
@__red__general23695 жыл бұрын
@4:13 THANK YOU FORD!! that oil plug & oil filter Is placed very well!! Well done. Cant wait to service these engines!!
@derektrujillo22925 жыл бұрын
Man I can't wait to hear one of these things with straight pipes and a tune thing is going to sound freaking awesome
@juanggqrza6795 жыл бұрын
Damn 400lb ft @1500 rpm. I can already imagine my truck... crew cab dually lariat fx4 package 4.30 gears and 10 speed trans!!!! It will pull my 5th wheel like nothing!!!
@Wired4Flight5 жыл бұрын
MOST IMPORTANTLY ---- you can easily access the damn spark plugs. Ford finally learned!
@squirtsomedirt31615 жыл бұрын
Im tempted to pick one up in CCLB, It would pair nicely in the driveway with my 1989 F250HD 7.3idi 5speed.
@wildbill23c5 жыл бұрын
If only the new F250's and larger trucks still had manual transmissions, the new 7.3L V8 Gas engine would have me back on the lot for a new work truck but without a manual option I'll keep driving my old stuff.
@squirtsomedirt31615 жыл бұрын
@@wildbill23c absolutely. I love manuals. Puts power down to the ground better, better engine braking, cheaper to fix, and far more fun.
@natemcgowan54165 жыл бұрын
Coming from a Chevy guy, god I am so glad to see a REAL truck motor. Big displacement, V8, naturally aspirated, hopefully bulletproof, and loads of low end grunt. Good job Ford 👍🏻
@stevenp31764 жыл бұрын
NA gas engines made for a heavy truck running on 87 octane doesn’t make 600hp shocker. Then runs through a very heavy drive train will always show “low” numbers. I’m happy they didn’t go DI like Chevy did. This engine should live a long and happy life with cheap maintenance costs. Perfect for fleet use.
@daseteam5 жыл бұрын
Let´s have a big-block Mustang.
@Mixwell19835 жыл бұрын
7.3 turbo mustang coming 2021
@anthonywebber22115 жыл бұрын
@@Mixwell1983 Not likely
@daseteam5 жыл бұрын
@@Mixwell1983 : ))
@ripfletching5 жыл бұрын
Now this was a good video I appreciate it I believe this engine is built for a work truck but with the components that is in this engine the 7.3 L I could for see this being a monster hot rod motor. It is designed for low RPM by the government but as he stated and you can tell by its components this engine is capable of high rpm’s with a little modification
@jkheslekrants5 жыл бұрын
And Boost lol. This thing will be beast with boost
@MarkSmith-pd3nt5 жыл бұрын
In an earlier video, it was stated the 7.3 is actually smaller then the coyote 5.0 in the Mustang...
@jdla1405 жыл бұрын
Ram's 8.0 v10 made 400 ft/lbs at 800 RPM's and 450 at 2400 25 years ago. You would think after 25+ years there would be more on the table for a big displacement N/A gas engine
@lavneh46705 жыл бұрын
Look at the A/F raitio
@Treyk9015 жыл бұрын
Yeah... and could get a whopping 11mpg hauling nothing. The point of this engine was to get great towing capabilities while getting great WOT mpg (stoichiometric 14.7:1). The problem with that ratio is that it’s not great for performance which is why they chose 7.3 liters. They had the power numbers and mpg numbers they wanted and set out to find the proper displacement to make it happen.
@Montana2705 жыл бұрын
That v10 lasted for like... A year before junking it? XD
@roninkraut68735 жыл бұрын
Trey K Thank you for being intelligent. All of these other knuckle heads on here complaining that it didn’t make 1000 hp and whatnot have zero grasp on what this engine was made to do.
@fordmanx35 жыл бұрын
I miss the 488 V10
@ratman57275 жыл бұрын
As a basically died-in-the-wool GM guy, I am thoroughly impressed with this new Ford engine. Some may call it a step backwards because it is pushrod, -etc. the fact is, pushrod engines work, -and work really well, especially in truck applications. It really looks like Ford did a phenomenal job on the design of this one, -this is positive progress. To the folks saying they are disappointed with the numbers, -remember that the guys that run fleet rigs DO NOT want to have ANY rig that is operating on the edge, -it must make those numbers all day and everyday with minimal maintenance, so they are intentionally detuned to achieve that. GM did the same exact thing on the 6.0, it is not an impressive engine power-wise, but you can beat the living tar out of them day in day out (the exception being the occasional bad lifter or two). I don't care whose name is on the valve cover, when something good like this comes out, it should be touted as good. These are some amazing times, look at all of the exceptional engines that are being produced today, the Hemi, Coyote, LS, Cummins, Duramax, Powerstroke, -all are world class....I am very impressed with the numbers this engine produces, especially for something that is N/A.
@JimLBon5 жыл бұрын
The torque curve on the 7.3 is downright sexy. Great gas engine right there.
@stegomon5 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see a supercharged version swapped into raptor
@edwardpate61285 жыл бұрын
Where was this event at? Looks like a neighborhood street!
@crackpipejoe35085 жыл бұрын
Socialist Shithole Canada!!!!!!
@mikeecho87725 жыл бұрын
@@crackpipejoe3508 you clearly have never been to a true socialist country....
@SuperSnallygaster5 жыл бұрын
Applebee's
@logdon175 жыл бұрын
That was my first thought, looks like they could be holding a local car show in a church parking lot instead of a billion dollar company unveiling their cash cow's upgraded engine
@hugeCRSfan695 жыл бұрын
this engine is awesome, make mine an extra cab f-250 XL with the standard bed
@Farms20005 жыл бұрын
hugeCRSfan69 no problem where do you want it delivered
@marksiegel37825 жыл бұрын
Damn, I'm excited Great video. Just waiting for prices. I want the gas super duty.. Had the V10 it was a good truck. Never had any issues. Thanks for info
@johnnyd6875 жыл бұрын
I love how you explain the horsepower and torque. It's kind of like 'Yeah, I know it sucks. But at least it doesn't suck as bad as the other guys.' I guess I'm just spoiled with my '19 6.7
@-466juggernaut-95 жыл бұрын
Seems like a great setup. Good numbers and none of that ohc bs. Very similar torque curve to the old GM 8.1 and that was a great work horse. Especially with the ZF manual trans.
@offroadingidiot5 жыл бұрын
Did he say every Super Duty that Ram builds at the beginning? Lol
@rosscoep14505 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that they had to coat tail this engine off the 7.3L powerstroke, I would have been more excited to see a 7.5L in a "new" gas single cam pushrod engine.
@dam42745 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see how well it performs as the V10 replacement in Class C motorhomes.
@Tman05175 жыл бұрын
It's a good strong gas motor, probably the best gas motor you could put in a HD truck. Dont know if I'd like it in a medium duty truck but definitely good for a 250 through 550.
@mattg81165 жыл бұрын
Careful how you say it, it is an electronically actuated turbo. There are electronic turbos or E-turbos that provide mild hybrid like assist. This is not that, yet.
@emi123nem5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Garn was a bit confused by that statement ..
@aaronandhayleyskinner32495 жыл бұрын
Made me wonder
@AgentSmith9115 жыл бұрын
A bit low on the numbers, but at least it seems durability is good 👍🏻
@tacomas96025 жыл бұрын
Agent Smith The more power you throw through a block, the less reliable it will be due to the force being so much greater than if it was “dumbed down” a little bit.
@justinnieves9845 жыл бұрын
But almost full torque at 1500. This motor is going to be a long haul beast.
@Welcometofacsistube5 жыл бұрын
Vincent Sluga bull.
@pryme20135 жыл бұрын
Plastic intake manifold doesnt seem great
@pryme20135 жыл бұрын
@Charles Ball they have had no issue....since they had an issue. Hmmm okay. That was a huge issue with the old panther cars etc. Plastic is not "built ford tough"
@SpeedbeetleV25 жыл бұрын
Yeah my next truck is gonna be a regular cab long bed 7.3
@trynodev4 жыл бұрын
I have the F350 with the 6.2L gas and it has been plenty powerful for me. My gross vehicle weight is always at about 10,000lbs and it tends to feels a bit sluggish, but when I hook up a trailer adding an additional weight of 5,000 lbs or so, I don't feel much change in performance.
@96mcdonald5 жыл бұрын
Those numbers seem pretty good compared to my v10 and it does just fine pulling loads... and with that 10 speed I'm sure it will work out just fine
@thesavior23985 жыл бұрын
CANT wait for someone to tune the engine since say said the afr is 14.5... so thats pretty dame lean
@flash10345 жыл бұрын
Oh please...please bring back a stout 6 speed manual transmission!
@hanskinslo3265 жыл бұрын
That will probably never happen, unfortunately.
@spencerrounds6795 жыл бұрын
Ford made the 5 speed in manual
@panthermartin77845 жыл бұрын
Why bring back something that dont sell?
@Icutmetal5 жыл бұрын
No thanks. Automatics are so much better now, I don’t see the point anymore. I had the ZF5 in a 1997 F350 7.5L; it got old quick.
@roninkraut68735 жыл бұрын
It won’t happen but it is more for to row your own gears
@leonidsemenov77265 жыл бұрын
Love the new 7.3
@jonathonsmith76945 жыл бұрын
I like how Ford has gone with a “humble” looking truck. Miss the mid 90s trucks for that 😁
@adamhall47845 жыл бұрын
I want that motor in my f150! Nice job FoMoCo!
@djbradfrd5 жыл бұрын
That engine is built for RELIABILITY not just HP and torque
@RiggyRonnie5 жыл бұрын
Looks to be the 6bt of gassers wonder what it's biggest flaw will be hard to tell right now but I bet it won't have much I'm excited to see what the market will do with it.
@possumpopper895 жыл бұрын
Use a shotgun microphone instead of an Omni directional mic so we can hear the engineer over the crowd.
@eclipsegst94195 жыл бұрын
I figured they would be in this range. Flat torque curve and reliable are most important in this application. In all reality we are just plain spoiled as hell. The old 460 only made half as much HP and the tq curve wasn't this flat either. The V10 makes only 3/4 of this hp and also nowhere near as flat a tq curve. That all said, this engine should certainly make some huge numbers when people start swapping it. A bigger cam, longtubes, and a tune should easily push it well past 500hp, and I would guess it will handle some serious boost too.
@jerrodcorey255 жыл бұрын
450 horsepower and 500 pound feet of torque would be nice numbers
@kevintucker33545 жыл бұрын
800 horsepower and 1000 pound feet of torque would be nice numbers. I think Ford did very well with this new engines performance in its application though.
@rxonmymind83625 жыл бұрын
A supercharged Tundra blew past that. But, they don't have it anymore.
@Treyk9015 жыл бұрын
Rxonmymind supercharged F150 5.0 running 10s and it’s available now and for under $50k.
@rxonmymind83625 жыл бұрын
@@Treyk901 Sweet! Good to know. Though I have reservations about turbos.