Is sage’s durag or bsolz’s beanie coming off first
@theprocessss8 ай бұрын
Sage without a durag is T5 most cursed images ever
@antwiththesauce8 ай бұрын
beanie
@engidohaile2018 ай бұрын
@@theprocessssyou haven’t see him without a durag
@Guywithnoedits8 ай бұрын
the beanie comin off first
@josephkempinger8 ай бұрын
They’re both dying before either of those things happen
@cNogz38 ай бұрын
Can we just talk about how Giannis has been averaging 30 10 and at least 4 for the last 5 years casually
@Championshiporbust7 ай бұрын
They won’t unfortunately but he still the best
@SirCash.2 ай бұрын
ngl those numbers are kinda average for superstars today
@shazaalala28Ай бұрын
@@SirCash.it’s average compared to westbrook but he’s infinitely more efficient.
@maltvegas85678 ай бұрын
Jokic won an mvp based on stats and carrying the team a few years after harden lost in 19 (with stats and carrying the team)
@cdatruth804va58 ай бұрын
Yea harden not winning in 2019 is insane
@rickharrison17378 ай бұрын
Giannis literally had better stats than Harden if you look past the box score and consider defense.
@kingdinodragonite34708 ай бұрын
@@rickharrison1737 Harden had better on-off and EPM (which includes BOTH OFFENSE and DEFENSE)
@akshaysundru4828 ай бұрын
@@kingdinodragonite3470Cumulative +/- always skew in favour of offensive production so Harden is above for that reason but yea advance stats wise they were relatively even
@akshaysundru4828 ай бұрын
To be fair 2019 Giannis is lot harder to win MVP against than 2022 Joel Embiid
@rafita97028 ай бұрын
That 2019 Harden true shooting percentage thing may have single-handedly killed how serious we should take that stat 😂
@udithsethu5528 ай бұрын
How? Freethrows are part of the game.
@Madeguydo8 ай бұрын
@@udithsethu552until you become a free throw merchant and they don't call the same amount of fouls in the playoffs, the REAL games that actually matter
@udithsethu5528 ай бұрын
@@Madeguydo good thing MVP is a regular season award.
@youngclc12428 ай бұрын
Being able to draw FTs and get to the line is part of the game. I don’t see any reason to use EFG% over TS%
@kennethdunn66508 ай бұрын
@@youngclc1242because in the playoffs they don’t call those same fouls
@MOCskoden8 ай бұрын
Durag and Beanie arguing about Giannis vs Harden MVP voting was peak convos 😂
@phoonbug8 ай бұрын
Solz should wear a durag and Sage should wear a beanie
@brocklee10098 ай бұрын
The real finals is Solz beanie vs Sage Durag
@ChefCJ8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@ViewtifulAJM8 ай бұрын
ik the bulls weren’t relevant at all this season but having watched Coby for the last 5 years, this season genuinely came out of nowhere. Dude went from 10 pts as a rotational piece off the bench to our starting pg of the future with 20 and 5. That means a lot more to me personally, compared to Maxey quite literally just getting more usage. Coby clearly improved more but Maxey had the prettier numbers on a better team.
@itshurtt3958 ай бұрын
Copy white also received more usage aswell right? I Personally think becoming a star and a fringe all-nba with good stats is better and harder especially when you have THE superstar in joel embiid taking the ball and points. Compared to someone becoming a good starter/plsyer from a rotational piece
@Dgenic8 ай бұрын
@@itshurtt395 going into the season it was very clear Maxey was number 2 option for the Sixers so you damn near guarantee more usage and more points. Coby at best would’ve been 7th option. At not even leading the bench unit. He earned his usage
@itshurtt3958 ай бұрын
@Dgenic yes but one of the reasons coby didn't get the opportunity he has now is that he didn't show that potential at the time. Maxey did, so when harden left he earned that second option. Obviously there is other factors like injuries that give coby the chance to show his worth but like they both earned it. And even in maxey case the opportunity is there now he still has to step up and take that jump which he has
@Dgenic8 ай бұрын
@@itshurtt395 so in an award about who made the MOST improvement, you’d have to argue the guy who didn’t prove himself worth it before has made more of an improvement than the guy who already cemented his place as Second option.
@itshurtt3958 ай бұрын
@Dgenic it doesn't matter about the status of the situation. If someone has cemented his place or not. Its about stepping up to that title and performing game in and out like you are expected to which maxey has. And that level is a fringe All-nba with good stats. Both have a case but I still believe 100% that making a jump from good player to fringe all-nba is harder then rotational piece to a good starter.
@QuanfrmPZ48 ай бұрын
SGA just casually avg 30 being tied for first in steals and being number 1 in the west on the youngest team in the league 🏌🏾
@Jackson-ve7ml8 ай бұрын
I think jokic def one sum of the wrong years tbh. I have him winning for sure 2022 and 2023. 24 should have gone to Luka and 21 should have gone to Giannis. While harden in 19 should have gone to harden, 18 go to Lebron.
@kidflashiv8 ай бұрын
In the 2015 MVP discussion, all this time i did not know curry was only playing like 32 minutes a game. I might change my view on it
@Placd8 ай бұрын
These dudes continue to dismiss Giannis in his award
@alexandernelson9453 ай бұрын
Big fan of this format. I’d love to see you guys do this type of video for the early 2010s/2000s
@Smashball9878 ай бұрын
I love that yall have discussions about the past, nice to reflect on the past nba vs listening to another Dallas Boston preview and if Ant is the face of the league😂
@devontyrell19698 ай бұрын
If winning a championship is the goal of every season then can we argue that LeBron is 4-20 Jordan is 6-15 Kobe is 5-20 and Bill Russel is 11-13
@lllllllllll88lll7 ай бұрын
And curry is 15-25
@justindedonato93445 ай бұрын
Headahh comment
@EduardoVeras-l3s8 ай бұрын
Beanie and durag duo will never end😂😂😂
@tobiaskent69398 ай бұрын
The Giannis vs Harden debate is almost nothing like the Luka vs Jokic debate. Bsolz is fully gaslighting.
@tylerdinger98598 ай бұрын
the winning gap for luka and jokic wasn’t like it was 15 games. the gap was so minute that im actually surprised it came into the discussion for mvp
@itshurtt3958 ай бұрын
It was 7 more games in a super hard conference.vthat ain't small 😂 3 seeds above aswell. Winning was deffo a viable factor
@tylerdinger98598 ай бұрын
@@itshurtt395 turned out it didn’t matter those games and seeding bc luka just beat 3 of the top 4 seeds on his trip to the finals. almost like he was the best player in that stacked west
@itshurtt3958 ай бұрын
@tylerdinger9859 alright 👍 I could care less about the playoffs when talking about regular season award😭
@tylerdinger98598 ай бұрын
@@itshurtt395 and now your deflecting lmao. see all i gotta do is offer some context and then your flail like a fish. “regular season award” when he had better numbers than the winner on 7 less games won. a player that was out of the playoffs last year won 7 less games than the reigning champs. sounds like mvp stuff does it not, if you wanna talk “regular season award”
@itshurtt3958 ай бұрын
@tylerdinger9859 as I said, they both have mvp stats. Luka beats him on the raw box score stats in ppg and assisting. Jokic beats him in wins and everyother stat metric and efficiency by alot.
@ankhboldcrain99548 ай бұрын
Important bit of context for Maxey is last year Harden was there and this year he wasn't which opened up a considerable amount of opportunity and was a big factor in the jump in numbers
@Galacticgroot78 ай бұрын
Bro im 17 and i am nostalgic for gumball this is crazy😂😂😂😂
@kdotcondones.8 ай бұрын
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW GOOD 2019 JAMES HARDEN WAS OMG 😨😱‼️
@daxmoney50118 ай бұрын
1:14:26 I was in the 2nd grade and seeing my hometown hero KD win MVP was awesome and I had the movie Thunderstruck on Repeat cause I didn’t know any better
@Bigedub1018 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂Man we forgive u cause u was you young
@pieceoftrashkeith8 ай бұрын
28:53 A TO THE FUCKING YO, SOLZ?? 🤨
@Wignation228 ай бұрын
Ironic Sage says "Not Like Us" but both of yall out they playoffs. They are in fact like yall
@omy21158 ай бұрын
1:06:56 a giraffe in the acquarium? Wtf 💀
@ecoblitz36558 ай бұрын
I really thought AD should’ve won DPOY
@karelovesD7 ай бұрын
sage talking about luka defense rn is so funny
@thomasbarry88698 ай бұрын
thank you for this great video i love the content keep it up
@soraito18588 ай бұрын
Are you a durag wearer because you’re Sage, or are you Sage because you wear a dorage?
@whiteiverson42878 ай бұрын
Luka vs celtics in the finals. Sage and bsolz are about to go crazy
@Galaxydragon-wp1yi8 ай бұрын
sage and solz can you guys do sage and solz play you're careers and do 99 potential on both of you starting in Boston and Lakers or on the same team random start in 2014 or 2013 🙏🙏
@trevdj147 ай бұрын
damn I was graduating college in 2015 yall made me feel old asf
@coreyhumphrey39038 ай бұрын
The Reason Why Coby White should have won over Maxey is for 1 Maxey Avg 20 PPG as the 3rd Option once Harden was gone it was expected that He would have made a jump and then to add on the fact Embiid missed most of the year he was now the #1 option. I don’t think Maxey took this big leap his role changed which increased his production but his efficiency took a dip. Coby White was a player who’s value took a dip as after his sophomore season he was regressing and dropped below 10 PPG and for him to now be maybe apart of Chicago plans for the future because of his jump is a sign of more improvement. I feel like we ignore that context of Maxey Situation when discussing him being most improved.
@shaquill_oatmeal96478 ай бұрын
The main reason steph doesnt win in 2021 is cus they were a play in team
@salvatoresultana40588 ай бұрын
The right MVP since 2014: 2014: Kevin Durant 2015: Steph Curry 2016: Steph Curry 2017: Russell Westbrook 2018: James Harden 2019: Giannis 2020: Giannis 2021: Nikola Jokic 2022: Nikola Jokic 2023: Nikola Jokic 2024: Nikola Jokic
@ryanpettit70168 ай бұрын
Luka wins the 2024 MVP if Jokic wins the MVP in 2023 btw
@spoodyR36 ай бұрын
Just further proves he should’ve won it no cap
@JMA_218 ай бұрын
Derrick Rose having a first place Most Improved Player vote in 2019 was unexpected
@colinwolf138 ай бұрын
D'Lo had Jared Dudley scrapping with Ben Simmons, MIP just for that
@mlg4lyf8 ай бұрын
4:55 COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK
@ejeshii8 ай бұрын
WELL ACTUALLY PART 2 PLEASE 🙏
@ASeanDempsey8 ай бұрын
Who gave Derrick Rose a first place MVP vote in 2021.....take away their vote immediately
@prvb8888 ай бұрын
it was some of us actually...
@ASeanDempsey8 ай бұрын
@@prvb888 Outside of love for the player, I’m genuinely interested to hear why
@alexgrissom35138 ай бұрын
@@ASeanDempseylove for the guy that didn’t know what consent means?
@eghoseisiramen18928 ай бұрын
@@alexgrissom3513yeah. Regardless of any off the court stuff. Keep it hoops
@alexgrissom35138 ай бұрын
@@eghoseisiramen1892 I hope you have the same energy for Karl Malone then
@bobbyalistor8 ай бұрын
ive seen solz without beanie few times, never saw sage with the durag
@anarkata12138 ай бұрын
1:13:43 peak solz n sage lore
@skipyou28708 ай бұрын
I know it’s all troll right but I do think free throws need to matter more. Cause imagine how crazy the stats look if the Jaylen Browns and the LBJ of the world are 85% from the line instead of 70
@o-glizzy88178 ай бұрын
Is DBook the Zach lavine of Kobe Bryants???😂😂
@spoodyR36 ай бұрын
Bro, Zach Lavine is the Zach Lavine of Kobe Bryant’s 💀
@AustinMulkaMusic8 ай бұрын
Idk man Colby in the play-in.
@DeMortuisAutNilAut8 ай бұрын
28:53 ... bruh 👀
@zstrikerlol3 ай бұрын
48:11 Bro Rudy Gobert only played 56 games. It shouldve easilly gone to Embiid or AD
@potatotot48295 ай бұрын
Bro hates jokic only cuz he's the lakers daddy
@prince_24jay8 ай бұрын
The fact that Giannis didn’t win in 2022 or 2022 is diagusting solz and sage. Giannis was the best player in the world who had had his best offensive season especially when you’re talking about shooting the basketball as well( middy). Jokic shouldn’t have won it one of those 2 years 16:09
@updownleftright92588 ай бұрын
2024 SGA - MVP Koby White - MIP Vic - Roty + Dpoy 6th - Either one of Nas or Bogdan
@ryanwinters35818 ай бұрын
When it comes to the 2015 COTY I don’t think that Kerr should have won it. I’m pretty sure that was the year he was out for like 30 plus games after back surgery and in that stretch they lost like 2 or three games total
@bones31428 ай бұрын
2018 I’m going LeBron simply due to the lack of respect I have for Harden and how good Bron was. I am a James harden hater
@someone20848 ай бұрын
1:14:00 me being a 06 baby watching this part
@PastLifeVillian8 ай бұрын
48:45 Lou Will averaged 33 minutes a game lmao cheat ass “6th man of the year” award
@Musiq_lifestyle8 ай бұрын
I don’t think you guys understand how TERRIBLE that 2018 DPOY was. AD had better stats than Gobert across the board and played 75 games (for context Rudy Gobert played a whopping 56 games and still won). To make matters worse AD wasn’t even second place for the award. 🤨
@rashizzles8 ай бұрын
B-but the jazz had the #1 defense 😭 Rudy's aura inspired them to be better on defense. 😤
@Musiq_lifestyle8 ай бұрын
@@rashizzles Don’t tell me he instilled the power of friendship 😂
@rashizzles8 ай бұрын
@@Musiq_lifestyle Bro had the talk no jutsu in the locker room
@thecupofbrew79558 ай бұрын
Yessir Sage gonna hold down Ja 💪🏽
@davidbarnes31888 ай бұрын
I just have to say this you're a good podcaster play your shows are way better when you have bro with the do-rag on it
@SmartPsychopat18 ай бұрын
Coby white should have won the most improved player of the season in 2024.
@adtlewis68078 ай бұрын
This mf Sage laugh sound like Seth Rollins
@Deme.goated8 ай бұрын
Don’t care what people say ant is forever robbed of rookie of the year, everybody got caught up in the Lamelo highlights and him being in the lime light wayyyy too much, Terry rozier drops 30 but let’s talk about Lamelo Smh💀and side note Luka did landslide in the MVP this year…my glorious king #77🤟🏽
@Dsingle288 ай бұрын
Genuinely don’t understand the Luka over Jokic MVP take. Look at stats and win shares
@studentofthesaviors.o.s4 ай бұрын
I don’t get how Victor didn’t win DPOY. Victor is a younger than Rudy played less games than Rudy played less minutes than Rudy scored more points than Rudy got more assist than Rudy got more steals Rudy got more blocks than Rudy shot better than Rudy shot better from the three-point Rudy like what are we talking about.
@azzy27027 ай бұрын
I get we gotta factor winning in 2018 but cmon dog bron 2nd best player that year was a young Jordan Clarkson when harden had PRIME CP3
@RecluseSports8 ай бұрын
2024 MIP Cam Thomas!!!
@C6LD8 ай бұрын
Triple J took Mikal Bridges’ DPOY
@st0rmboi5348 ай бұрын
Nah Coby didn’t go from cool to good player he went from bust and waste draft pick to good player the discourse on Coby last season was terrible for Coby
@x872YEO8 ай бұрын
harden was robbed in 2019
@Vexyademon8 ай бұрын
Luka mvp 2024 idc abt anything else
@thisguyzack99228 ай бұрын
In 2014 i was still in middle school 8th grade and couldn't talk to girls, maybe a few, but I was too nervous to do anything 😂
@j-rey-8 ай бұрын
I still can't believe people are still arguing for Luka over Jokic. Jokic was better in almost every advanced metric (if not all of them), and their box score numbers are both equally impressive. It wasn't really that close. The Nuggets fell short in the playoffs because the Timberwolves were just a great matchup against them, and most of the Nuggets other than Jokic underperformed.
@TenPenceScience1238 ай бұрын
The box score numbers were not close
@IllMatic978 ай бұрын
It should've been Luka or Shai.
@cdatruth804va58 ай бұрын
Either one could have won, there was no clear cut leader in the race, at least to me
@gamingwithmaya5028 ай бұрын
Don't think it's a ridiculous argument. I can see the argument, I don't agree but if you make the Luka MVP argument you have valid points and have some basketball knowledge. I just respectfully disagree, but will concede some points.
@K0shimae8 ай бұрын
does solz have the n word pass?
@spoodyR36 ай бұрын
I agree it’s media members but we do not have the right media members right now exhibit A Malika Andrew’s…
@Galaxydragon-wp1yi8 ай бұрын
sage and solze can you do lebron and luka in the same area
@Kin-hn1hd8 ай бұрын
My mvp in 2018 was Bron only because he had all these stats and good record with no help on his team so that’s why I think that’s important
@mixedalfro93728 ай бұрын
I agree ppl tend to forget this was the year he lose kyrie and had Thomas who wasn't the same old wade old derrick rose ok j.r and shumpert Kyle kover and later made trade n had like Clarkson most of these ppl were like 4 option on other Teams
@dyingbreed67088 ай бұрын
2 views in 23 seconds, you fell off
@Pluto.2z8 ай бұрын
10 second club
@itsjesse___8 ай бұрын
The DMitch/Simmons debate was never that deep. People (including Mitchell) were just spamming the “BeN’s N0t a rEaL RoOKie” card
@isaiahlamb8868 ай бұрын
SOLZGNG❤
@jonathansykes49868 ай бұрын
aint no way a couple of kids who cant pass a math class able to "fix" nba awards for the past decade
@TheLazerBird8 ай бұрын
Sage is hella trolling despite the fact that jokic and Murray (as a duo) has as many rings as Lebron and AD (as a duo)
@itsyaboishadow43008 ай бұрын
Rudy losing some fraud DPOYS
@machoboys88848 ай бұрын
I mean he did turn teams filled with turnstiles, a dying Joe Ingles, and Royce O’Neal into defensive juggernauts in the regular season
@y2shuproblem8 ай бұрын
My issue with Wemby's case is that his defensive impact doesn't lift the Spurs from a bottom-10 defensive team to at least a top-10 defensive team.
@rickharrison17378 ай бұрын
Lowkey Kawhi stole more DPOYs than Rudy. If I were to list my winners over the years it would look like this: 2015: Draymond 2016: Draymond 2017: Draymond 2018: Anthony Davis 2019: Gobert 2020: Giannis 2021: Gobert 2022: Gobert 2023: JJJ 2024: Gobert Love Kawhi but I don’t believe in POA defenders winning DPOY, no matter how good they are.
@christophergraves31138 ай бұрын
@@y2shuproblem literally wembys on off numbers say other wise...they are literally top 3 when he is on and nearly dead last when they are off...different when Rudy is 1 when they are on and 7 when they are off...like what are you yapping about
@y2shuproblem8 ай бұрын
@@christophergraves3113 it still doesn't translate into winning and the Spurs defense being at the top of the league consistently. End results matter
@holahovito138 ай бұрын
Rudy Gobert got cooked so bad this must be a late upload lol
@9Teen_shots8 ай бұрын
26 seconds and 2 views? My boys fell off
@DR6388 ай бұрын
1 min and 62 views is good. By my calculations they should reach a million views in 268.4 hours
@imbetter148 ай бұрын
@@DR638 or 11 days
@Disxreet8 ай бұрын
Wemby DPOY is a duh
@StephonMaple8 ай бұрын
Born in 2006 fresh high school grad 😎
@Gandalf_the_Gold8 ай бұрын
Jayson Tatum for mvp 2014-2024?
@Redd235568 ай бұрын
SGA should of won mvp
@K1nG0907MaliK8 ай бұрын
First
@kingf-5gaming7238 ай бұрын
Just agenda pushin if u used the logic of Giannis winning mvp cause of his defensive bron in 2014 should’ve too 6th in dpoy and only a 5 point difference in points and bron was 56% 38% percent from three and kd was 50% percent and 39% from 3 but great vid just nitpicking😂🫡🔥
@shaquill_oatmeal96478 ай бұрын
The main reason steph doesnt win in 2021 is cus they were a play in team