We Gave A Novice Runner A Pair Of $300 Super Shoes!

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Global Triathlon Network

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Ай бұрын

We all know Carbon Super Shoes are fast. We’ve seen endless running world records smashed as a result. But what would happen if we gave a pair to an amateur runner? It's time to find out with the help of GCN's Manon Lloyd!
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@gtn
@gtn Ай бұрын
Do you think carbon shoes would make a difference to your speed? 👟💨
@OnYourLefty
@OnYourLefty Ай бұрын
I’d love a free pair to find out! 😂
@OperationDarkside
@OperationDarkside Ай бұрын
I got a pair of Trinitrotoluol shoes recently. You can literally feel the energy propelling you forward. They're da bomb.
@KoenMiseur
@KoenMiseur Ай бұрын
I use pvc plated shoes and that already made me about 30" faster on a 5k, so yeah I think carbon plates will be even quicker.
@leebrown3645
@leebrown3645 Ай бұрын
I'm about a minute quicker over 5k in my shoes with carbon rods. They're more excellent training shoes rather than racing shoes, but even so, the difference in speed and feel is glaringly apparent.
@PippiSproge
@PippiSproge Ай бұрын
I just bought Hoka Cielo x1, and I'm now running a lot faster :)
@manonrides
@manonrides Ай бұрын
I can promise you no dogs were hurt in the throwing of the slippers 😂
@gtn
@gtn Ай бұрын
Phew!
@stevengoodwin3154
@stevengoodwin3154 Ай бұрын
Saw/heard that and came to the comments 😮. Go to know all k9s are okay. ✌
@bradley3549
@bradley3549 Ай бұрын
LOL 😂
@zlmdragon.
@zlmdragon. Ай бұрын
@@gtn new idea, if the carbon shoes give an advantage by doing whatever they are doing to the foot mechanics, what foot muscle+tendon training(aside from just running) should be done in order achieve a result in a similar fashion as wearing carbon? @manonrides are doing any foot specific training?
@DerzaFanistori
@DerzaFanistori Ай бұрын
Amazing run and a great video! Hope to see more of you going forward
@tmlvr176
@tmlvr176 Ай бұрын
Alright, if the point of this video was to "prove" that carbon plated super shoes can actually make a beginner quite a bit faster, I think it would have been interesting to ask Manon to run a third 5k a week later with the "normal" shoes, to have another control point. Then, it would show if the big time difference between run 1 and run 2 was solely due to the shoes, or if it was also linked to Manon not being sick anymore and starting to run again. I know there are many variables at play, and this is no real scientific experiment by any means :) But it would have been nice to have a little more perspective in that case.
@bdubb7660
@bdubb7660 Ай бұрын
Agreed. She also had a target to beat from week 1 to week 2 that she would likely have beat with the regular shoes, anyways.
@stilerone
@stilerone Ай бұрын
the point of the video was to advertise On footwear
@DavidWilson-jv9vh
@DavidWilson-jv9vh Ай бұрын
If you look up Mannon’s parkrun she actually ran a faster 5km than her carbon shoes time back in early October.
@JackMott
@JackMott Ай бұрын
Yeah but not youtube experiment ever has a good protocol except BikeRadar one time with tires. haha.
@rimoto2645
@rimoto2645 Ай бұрын
"Soley due to" 😂
@kevinstenner8836
@kevinstenner8836 Ай бұрын
Half marathon for Manon next stop.
@gtn
@gtn Ай бұрын
Right! We'd love to see Manon take one on! Where should we sign her up for? 🤔
@matthewbaynham6286
@matthewbaynham6286 Ай бұрын
​@@gtndoes the Bristol half marathon still have that massive climb at the end, all the way up to Clifton Downs from the river under Clifton Suspension Bridge... The last time I did Bristol half marathon was 1993.
@manonrides
@manonrides Ай бұрын
I'm scared
@ralfmimoun2826
@ralfmimoun2826 Ай бұрын
@@manonrides The distance is even easier after a nice bike ride. 70.3 when?
@henridanielski9318
@henridanielski9318 23 күн бұрын
Berlin Halfmarathon sounds good. ​@@gtn
@nm0519
@nm0519 Ай бұрын
Well done, Manon! She needs to be on the channel more
@guillaumepoirier3618
@guillaumepoirier3618 Ай бұрын
Exactly! But that would be cheating, she's such a people magnet!
@Joshua-dx7zn
@Joshua-dx7zn Ай бұрын
I'm assuming she doesn't want to be. Most cyclist hate running 😀
@guillaumepoirier3618
@guillaumepoirier3618 Ай бұрын
@@Joshua-dx7zn afaic, i cycle to work and as a means of transportation, but that's it. I'm genuinely scared of speed on the open road. That's not a problem I have when running. I'm no Kipchoge
@Joshua-dx7zn
@Joshua-dx7zn Ай бұрын
@@guillaumepoirier3618 So you're not a cyclist then. You just ride a bike. Not sure I know what you mean by speed on the open road. Most cyclist are not going that fast. We are typically going between 15-25mph. I mean I've hit 55mph but that was going down a mountain and it was scary. Most people don't like the cars on the open road. I use a radar to let me know when cars are approaching which helps.
@deanohit
@deanohit Ай бұрын
Always great to see Manon on the channel, the two of you together always make great vids
@gadenhertog
@gadenhertog Ай бұрын
Haha, tossing the slippers in the direction of the dog 😂
@iandoddsblah
@iandoddsblah Ай бұрын
Was it just me or an effect or did the dog yelp just after?! 😂
@rgh622
@rgh622 Ай бұрын
@@iandoddsblah Yes, there was a yelp. Hilarious!!
@kingart23
@kingart23 Ай бұрын
Not in the direction more like at the dog! 😅
@jlore6344
@jlore6344 Ай бұрын
Manon seems like a great fit for the channel. I would like to see her participate more. Let's go! (this was really interesting BTW).
@GrooveyBobby
@GrooveyBobby Ай бұрын
Go Manon - love you on GCN love to see you on GTN as well 💕Heather would be an amazing coach !!
@steevoridgeline
@steevoridgeline 29 күн бұрын
such a great video and colab !! such a good timing too which i was considering getting a pair of Cloudboom ! so that helped ! thx ☀☀
@ruizmorelos
@ruizmorelos Ай бұрын
I love this two gals… they always have the best attitude. great vid. Cheers!
@gtn
@gtn Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ebutuoyYT
@ebutuoyYT Ай бұрын
I now realise it was Manon that gave me a cheer of encouragement, on the final loop of a recent Parkrun, as I (strategically 😀) walked a few meters, before ramping up the heart rate, once more. Thanks.
@gtn
@gtn Ай бұрын
Great! 🙌
@chadkoller5327
@chadkoller5327 Ай бұрын
Love this collaboration
@andreemurray7039
@andreemurray7039 Ай бұрын
Love it when you two do a challenge very enjoyable
@UnkleSi
@UnkleSi Ай бұрын
That is an excellent 5km pace- well done. Interesting to hear Manons HR as well, inspires me to go a little harder
@Heleen_Hikes
@Heleen_Hikes Ай бұрын
Great video! Would have loved a heart rate comparison between the two runs to be able to tell a difference in effort!
@suttonfarms2343
@suttonfarms2343 Ай бұрын
I'm always impressed by these presenters when they 'do something they aren't good at' and are still pretty darned good! Way to go and love the video. :)
@gtn
@gtn Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@jascollinscork
@jascollinscork Ай бұрын
GREAT video!!! Fantastic time Manon was it 5k run like my park run??
@nightsfalling
@nightsfalling Ай бұрын
Good video girls, yes to Manon being back on the show. If she runs again she should start slow and don’t get injured so a 5 or 10 k can be a good goal.
@vesahurskainen7166
@vesahurskainen7166 21 күн бұрын
Well done, Mannon ! You´ve got to come back for more 👌
@3Max
@3Max Ай бұрын
Zone 2 cycling... Park Run... Only thing left is a swim! :) Let's go, Manon!
@runruntours
@runruntours Ай бұрын
I didn't know that carbon shoes could make that difference! Bring Manon back for other challenges, I love seeing her on the channel!
@castironpenguin
@castironpenguin Ай бұрын
Well done, Manon!
@shushuyu
@shushuyu 19 күн бұрын
I approve those shoes. I have one myself. But they're a bit overkill so I'm just using the cloudswift now because it have less cushion. Love it for my sprint session.😌
@Madmaverick101
@Madmaverick101 Ай бұрын
Go Manon - stepping up when needed! A definite shoe-in while Heather is away.
@saschathau7473
@saschathau7473 Ай бұрын
I will always vote to see more of Manon, she is a great human being.
@knitrundig4663
@knitrundig4663 Ай бұрын
That was great. It would be good to see more of Manon on the channel, a 10k next maybe?
@joshspencer6240
@joshspencer6240 Ай бұрын
I bought my first pair of super shoes during the summer of Sub7/Sub8. It was a 30 sec/km instant improvement to my paces over every distance and my recovery times went down. The only downside was I tore my calf after nine months in them.
@user-ng9sv6rv6t
@user-ng9sv6rv6t 14 күн бұрын
“Well done Manon thank you for doing this” and Heather burst out laughing. Hilarious!!!!
@blwnova4155
@blwnova4155 Ай бұрын
More Manon is always good
@Adam-qz1mp
@Adam-qz1mp Ай бұрын
Well done 👏 just wondering if manon hit the dog when she threw the slippers as I heard a little yelp 🙈🤣
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f Ай бұрын
Yes, of course we want more Manon!
@MarvinNeumannOfficial
@MarvinNeumannOfficial Ай бұрын
So cool! And congrats to the 22min time! That is great!
@ronrunsworld
@ronrunsworld Ай бұрын
Great video! thanks
@SBoots29
@SBoots29 Ай бұрын
Well done Manon. Yes set the prize and hook Manon into a stand in for the short term. "Hey Manon, you got a beautiful pair of shoes"
@andrewmcalister3462
@andrewmcalister3462 Ай бұрын
2 minute improvement? Awesome effort Manon.
@EitanEhrlich
@EitanEhrlich Ай бұрын
Manon and Heather is the best collab since sliced bread!!!!
@Persistence_run_444
@Persistence_run_444 Ай бұрын
Would love to see a series on her training for a marathon. The ups and downs and the like.
@NihilimZA
@NihilimZA Ай бұрын
I love and hate this video because I just don't see myself spending that much on a pair of shoes purely for racing but I would love to try it when I'm ready for a PB marathon or 21. Well done Manon!
@lucywilliams7483
@lucywilliams7483 Ай бұрын
Incredible! I rave about the Cloudmonsters feeling like they're carrying me along! ....Can't begin to imagine the carbon shoes! 2 minutes off a 5K is insane! More Manon More! Could you take 2 more minutes off with training?!
@leebrown3645
@leebrown3645 Ай бұрын
Great to have Manon back 👍 What can we have her do next? No point messing about, sign her up for an Ironman 😉😁
@darrenhill8503
@darrenhill8503 22 күн бұрын
The term comfortable as per Manon running is not a term I think she would use. Much respect of giving it a go.
@andyshaw5378
@andyshaw5378 Ай бұрын
Interested in seeing Manon training schedule then moving forward 👍🏻
@xosevi17
@xosevi17 Ай бұрын
those two are tremendous. I didn't expect the speed of speedy gonzales but there is a difference between shoes. The most important thing though is that both runs were done in style. xD
@Mike-rh8we
@Mike-rh8we Ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see the time gain over the 10km distance. I was surprised the time difference was so large over just 5km. Way to go Maonon!
@rolfm.bakken4457
@rolfm.bakken4457 Ай бұрын
Last year I tested the same 5 x 800m session on track, one week apart, with and without carbon shoes. I made the lead-in to the session over the pre-ceeding days more or less identical with regards to rest & nutrition. The test protocol shows that my average pace over the 5 sets improved from 4:34 pr/km to 4:23 pr km with carbon shoes. Both average and max heart rate was almost identical with 1 BPM lower with carbon shoes. Pretty shoddy science, and with a sample of one it can't even be labelled "bro-science" but since I was the sample it works for me!
@john12mclaughlin
@john12mclaughlin Ай бұрын
I'm not a fast runner, but my Hoka CarbonX have made a HUGE difference in keeping my achilles tendonitis and plantar fasciitis in check. I think I'll never go back to regular running shoes.
@vong4518
@vong4518 Ай бұрын
I run with Novablast 3, Clifton 9, and Trabuco Max 2`s… Usually my calves start to burn early until it starts to settle mid run, but today ran in Saucony Speed 4`s and the burn was gone completely… But there`s still gravel/sand on the roads because of winter, so after a kick my foot slipped more every time i pushed forward. Gonna have to wait till they wash the streets to feel those plated shoes more
@pato20995
@pato20995 Ай бұрын
I have the CarbonX and they are useless in terms of energy return and they have 0 cushioning, I run the same pace with any daily trainer.
@waterboy1059
@waterboy1059 Ай бұрын
Sprint triathlon Manon 😎
@kingart23
@kingart23 Ай бұрын
I Hope that no dogs were harmed in the making of the video 💁
@pamdave6140
@pamdave6140 Ай бұрын
Well done!
@richhold7775
@richhold7775 Ай бұрын
Lol, Manon is the novice runner. The badass from GCN is the "novice runner." :D
@xix94
@xix94 Ай бұрын
I like at the park run everyone was checking there watches 😂
@geromemanicia3809
@geromemanicia3809 Ай бұрын
22:49 5k at no training and just fitness from cycling is really really good
@peachxblue
@peachxblue Ай бұрын
Next up: Manon tries breakfast spots, commuting to each spot in her new carbon shoes. Restaurant review = how fast she runs there (eg, how excited she is for the food) . We won’t make her run after bc sometimes that’s just mean.
@Joshua-dx7zn
@Joshua-dx7zn Ай бұрын
I'm more of a cyclist but I did a fair amount of running last year, even did a half marathon but there is definitely a huge difference between regular training shoes and pro level shoes. My Adidas pro shoes probably shave over a minute off my 5k time. It's basically like having springs on your feet. It is worth the price.
@andycleary
@andycleary Ай бұрын
Jesus that an great decrease in time. Well done Manon!
@daveogilbee
@daveogilbee Ай бұрын
I thought Manon was only doing Zone 2? Maybe this was filmed before that endeavor?
@gtn
@gtn Ай бұрын
Just before 👌
@movieeater123
@movieeater123 Ай бұрын
Manon, Sprint Tri?
@gtn
@gtn Ай бұрын
You've got us thinking 🤔
@bighammer3464
@bighammer3464 Ай бұрын
Wow Manon hitting her dog with her slippers 😂😂😂 dog cried
@eea6967
@eea6967 Ай бұрын
Noted that too! Poor pup
@22newmodelguy
@22newmodelguy Ай бұрын
Manon should come over to the States, and do the Chattanooga 70.3 with me next month.
@ShaoYenChen
@ShaoYenChen 27 күн бұрын
Run Manon run!
@sewnforsport
@sewnforsport Ай бұрын
Yes being her on again 🎉 Heather you will be missed! 😢
@debbiehall6951
@debbiehall6951 Ай бұрын
Well done Manon 👏 You should train for a 10k next.
@Mister_Padyakero
@Mister_Padyakero Ай бұрын
Do the Triathlon Manon 😊
@daveclackworthy4494
@daveclackworthy4494 Ай бұрын
Let's go cillian!! Good luck ,hope you have a blast!
@EricMichaelManuel
@EricMichaelManuel Ай бұрын
zone 2 run training to coincide with her cycling z2? :D
@richardperreault3313
@richardperreault3313 Ай бұрын
Ironman Wales is in 6 months… that give enough time for a nice structure training program for Manon
@vsheehan
@vsheehan Ай бұрын
I would like to see Manon do a sprint triathlon.
@dilliondantin
@dilliondantin Ай бұрын
She's been on the channel before, right? Quite like her. Also quite like the idea of pros training noobs Could be really run for each of the main cast to take a total noob under their wing, train for X months, then have the noobs compete
@YellowMafia
@YellowMafia 28 күн бұрын
I'd love to see this done with someone who runs +- 30min per 5k. Food for thought for us average runners.
@michaelbenedict2961
@michaelbenedict2961 Ай бұрын
More Malon!!
@ericsond6666
@ericsond6666 29 күн бұрын
I'm a bit more worried about the dog rather than the result 😂
@Esperluet
@Esperluet 19 күн бұрын
There's a bias, performance improved because of the effect of the first 5k on fitness and control of the potential on the distance. I would have use the classical shoes on the second run.
@mracer8
@mracer8 29 күн бұрын
Manon is ready for Paris with Carbon shoe
@StewTri
@StewTri Ай бұрын
You can’t replace Heather, but great maternity cover on channel with Manon
@MarkBruceUK
@MarkBruceUK Ай бұрын
New shoes on a table!!!!
@SimpleShoes1
@SimpleShoes1 29 күн бұрын
I click the video because i saw Manon 😁
@colinb8327
@colinb8327 Ай бұрын
When Manon said it’s the shoes, sorry all I had in my head was Lee Evan’s saying “it’s the shoooooes!”.😂 If you know, you know…..😂 But good on her for giving it a go.
@Dunky80
@Dunky80 Ай бұрын
I think with some structured training Manon. On could do sub 20 minutes.
@Civera89
@Civera89 Ай бұрын
Next up, Manon takes on the Leadville100!
@gtn
@gtn Ай бұрын
Wow!
@goodvibes5487
@goodvibes5487 Ай бұрын
So should there be a different division for the "super shoes"? Seems that unless you can afford the Ferrari of shoes, you are at a distinct disadvantage. How much is attributed to the runner, and how much to the shoes?
@radomirsretenovic8492
@radomirsretenovic8492 29 күн бұрын
I run Half Marathons. First I used ON Cloumonster ($160). After 15km I used to have pain in my groins, hips and back. After 10 Half Marathons I changed to HOKA Clifton (140$). 60% of pain was gone. Another 15 Half Marathons then I switched to Saucony Endorphin PRO 3 (225$). ALL PAIN IS GONE.
@nml5536
@nml5536 Ай бұрын
she is doing stage 2 training for GCN! dont mess up the experiment!
@manonrides
@manonrides Ай бұрын
Don't worry this was filmed before I started zone 2 training
@patrickedwards5804
@patrickedwards5804 Ай бұрын
Talking methodologically there may well have been some control bias in the way you set up the "test". Wouldn't it have been better to blind test the shoes. Ie cover them up so that Manon didn't know the shoes she was actually running in?
@nobukazumikami5466
@nobukazumikami5466 Ай бұрын
I wonder if Manon developed some knee pain after running. She is always riding a bike, but not running. I developed knee pain after suddenly running for my first triathlon years ago. My biking knees could not handle impact force from running. My knees are stronger now because I regularly run and bike nowadays.
@gaphood4211
@gaphood4211 Ай бұрын
Yesss of course they will
@itsamemarkus
@itsamemarkus Ай бұрын
Interesting! But why is the video so blurred sometimes?
@n22pdf
@n22pdf Ай бұрын
Wow major difference.. wonder if some is placebo and she wasn’t feeling 100% before.. I’m from GCN channel and a cyclist but interesting.. Pete 🚴🏻👍
@Amtcboy
@Amtcboy 25 күн бұрын
A “bad” 5k in just 24mins is definitely not novice in my book.
@WildOutdoorLiving
@WildOutdoorLiving Ай бұрын
I know these tests arent scientific and I enjoy them regardless. That said, this test needed to be run 4 times, twice in each shoe. Reg shoe, super shoe, reg shoe, super. There is just way too much variability for amateur runners from a fitness and experience perspective, they will almost always go faster the second time you test them.
@Dimashoey
@Dimashoey Ай бұрын
Manon does Aquathlon!
@OldMiley
@OldMiley 29 күн бұрын
"I run a bit"... goes on to smash my 5k time 😂
@General1Cal
@General1Cal Ай бұрын
Just keep working on it, you will get better, maybe a year from now if you run every week 3,2,6,2,2,7,break, Miles per week give or take, keep in zone 2 heart range on slow runs, and long runs keep zone 3-4. Get at Strava log in 100-200 per month.
@neilcam
@neilcam Ай бұрын
Great to see Manon doing some crossover from GCN. However, given she was just coming off being sick when she did the first run, I do agree with another commentator that a 3rd run in the normal shoes would give a better idea of how much the carbon shoes might have contributed to the much faster pace. Especially given another video I've seen seemed to say that "super" shoes make little to no difference for mid/lower level runners. And I would love to see Manon go through the process of training for a sprint tri! (Obviously she'd murder the cycling leg!)
@benwilkinson7894
@benwilkinson7894 Ай бұрын
Wow I’m going to go buy ONs now 😂
@zaneclone
@zaneclone Ай бұрын
Fair do's.... 22 something isn't hanging about... Get training Manon... let's see what you're really capable of... :)
@Kimberlietriracer25
@Kimberlietriracer25 Ай бұрын
I keep looking at carbon shoes but isn't the milage less in carbon than say foam? You train in your trainers and race in your carbon. How much better would you become train I no in your super shoes? The expense is super high. I wonder if a high end mid shoe would be comparable.
@minem23
@minem23 Ай бұрын
It is probably 3x the price of the foam shoes if you look at how long the shoes last. As with top end😮 bicycles, carbon shoes are designed for professionals...
@glennnicholls8510
@glennnicholls8510 Ай бұрын
I want to know how many little stones Manon picked up in the first pair of shoes. Every time I run in Ons I get a little collection of stones
@seb_617
@seb_617 Ай бұрын
They’ve gotten a lot better about that recently, actually. I now run almost exclusively in Ons and don’t remember picking up a stone in any of the shoes I’ve bought in the last 18 months or so. Shoes have also gotten a lot better.
@rgh622
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Would have been a better experiment if she didn’t know which was the control shoe and also if she wasn’t primed that she would be running faster with the other shoes. Especially since a large part of running is mental
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