Hell of a coach.. Guess that’s why big Bodie is one of the best archers in the world!!! Great vid, Dan. Thank you for this one.
@timbow504 ай бұрын
One of Joel’s best shorts with Doc. Talked the guy into feeling something he’s never felt. I can’t believe he’s never made at least one proper execution that he felt was different than his punching. Been there long ago. When you finally get it right you will know it instantly. Doesn’t matter what release. What people don’t realize is this type execution will become an automatic process. With time you won’t even have need to have a mental conversation to make the execution. And the shot will break as the pin settles into its smallest float pattern. At least that’s how it does for me. Great video. Need the rest of it with everyone on the 3-d course.👍👍
@leobott93794 ай бұрын
Joel is the man!! Helped me out tremendously at the Western Hunting Summit
@ToddWagoner-m2k4 ай бұрын
Your very correct. About Many things. Lessons learned.
@njnuclear4 ай бұрын
That first surprise break is something else 😂😂😂 watching people’s face never gets old
@10flyingdutchman4 ай бұрын
Perfect timing - thanks for the reminder and free lessons!
@ToddWagoner-m2k4 ай бұрын
The key to useing the surprise break. Is embellishing the fact that a surprise break is coming. AND saying. This is wonderfully. I understand exactly what your teaching. It's easier when one is younger. Anyway., your much correct on things. Too teach that with grace and patience is the key.
@ToddWagoner-m2k4 ай бұрын
👍
@OlafKilthau4 ай бұрын
Great demonstration!
@theWoodrow824 ай бұрын
There’s no greater feeling in my book then beating target anticipation. I had a situation back in 09 where I made horrible shot on a great buck in KS at 27 yards drinking water broadside and he had no idea I was anywhere in his world. Luckily I recovered the deer but at that moment I made up my mind I was gonna go home and figure out how to overcome this horrible thing or I was gonna hang it up. I can say without hesitation that was a turning point in my bowhunting/archery career. Over the last 10 plus years I have made some awesome shots on game and never think anything about it as I know how it’s gonna go on my end. It’s the best feeling when you have that kind of discipline in your shot process. I went to two TAC events this year and it hurts my heart seeing folks struggle. I hope that they can find the time and discipline to rid themselves of target anticipation.
@timbow504 ай бұрын
@@theWoodrow82 👍👍 I’m continually fascinated of the number of people that have not learned to use their release. There’s so much great information available but yet they continue to punch those triggers and hammer thumb buttons. Watch any TAC video and there’s ALWAYS at least one in every group. Sometimes it’s everyone. Why they won’t change is crazy.
@angelohaddad47234 ай бұрын
Great vid guys Can’t wait for those public land hustles coming up this year
@thenameiwantedwastaken4 ай бұрын
I feel like Joel's whole "pull away from your face" thing is a great way to derail a bow
@colety044 ай бұрын
it is perfectly fine
@pennyontrack4 ай бұрын
Yup. Be very careful
@Tullminator4 ай бұрын
You have to derail your bow in order to derail your thinking, once you do that yo will be the most accurate archer on the planet.
@mattoberther78944 ай бұрын
@@Tullminatorlol
@ivantheterrible73774 ай бұрын
And what is your logic for how that will derail a bow? I’d really like to hear your reasoning vs a baseless, and honestly pretty ridiculous, statement.
@StealthandSteelOutdoors4 ай бұрын
It’s great to see a group of people who are willing to work on their shot process. Personally my brain isn’t wired to shoot this way.
@claytonc81014 ай бұрын
I suffered with target panic for years until I switched to a thumb button and was able to release with back tension. Not promising it will fix yours but it fixed mine
@ToddWagoner-m2k4 ай бұрын
When you know things others dont, you have to be wise. Im sure you understand that
@papaschuette4 ай бұрын
If Sam is a level 10, I have to be about a level 35 trigger puncher. I'm pretty sure I've never had a surprise break in 25+ years of shooting a bow. I've had close to 2 hours of instruction on how to shoot. That was when I bought my first bow from a friend of my brothers. And I've been on my own since. So, I'd have to hire Joel for a week to have any chance at fixing it. Heck, I could hire Sam to teach me. I guarantee he know's more about shooting than I do.
@MrTheBurkes4 ай бұрын
Let's go! 🏹
@drewolm4 ай бұрын
Maybe help the guy out with the way he draws his bow?
@gordonneverdies4 ай бұрын
My dream is so shoot 3d with Joel, Bodie, Dan, Tim and MFJJ. Damn that would be fun.
@ToddWagoner-m2k4 ай бұрын
You know Joel. Your absolutely correct with a wrist strap index. PULL THROUGH THE SHOT WITH YOUR STRAP.
@ToddWagoner-m2k4 ай бұрын
I shot for 25yrs. All wrist strap and index. For the last 25rs I haven't been able too shoot. Started again 1yr ago. With a stans thumb. Retraining myself. Your a little obsessive. But all within reason.
@courtneydelongis99024 ай бұрын
That dopamine hit of a great release
@NonAbidingDude3 ай бұрын
I'm a trigger puncher, out shoot everyone I know because I control when i release my arrow because "target panic" does not exist for me. Call it repetition from being neck deep in the sh1t, call it 26 years of shooting bows with an index release with a hair trigger. But when my sight hits that tiny dot, and it releases, it hits. It's all in what you know. Don't fix what works. I shoot 3 arrows, and shoot 3 different rings because I like my nocks. If you shoot 1.5 inch groups consistently at 20 yards, you're doing ok. Stop changing stuff all the time Shoot what's comfortable and PRACTICE. You'll get good. You can take everything off your bow and shoot fingers and shoot good at moving targets with enough practice, so imagine with all the attachments. Just find comfortable, and SHOOT.
@ryanlopez45504 ай бұрын
CRNA ALL DAY BB. i bet all the girls at work love to hear his bow hunting stories
@jons7e4 ай бұрын
Was his trigger set too light? Seems like it went off really easily.
@JohnDoe-xq8sk4 ай бұрын
@@jons7e they said it was a bad trigger to use but good for this demonstration so I assumed it was an extra heavy trigger they were using.
@tylerchubb38764 ай бұрын
There is a difference between "punching" and "commanding" the trigger to go off!!! Joel's way is NOT the only way!! P.S. his son just got beat by 2 trigger puncher/command shooters at field nationals this weekend
@ndpike134 ай бұрын
@@tylerchubb3876 haters gonna hate
@tylerchubb38764 ай бұрын
@ndpike13 not hating, simply stating that there is more ways than Joel's way.. Also look into any professional archery class at any kind of even and you'll see that 95% of the guys on the podium at "punching/commanding" the trigger
@TheSchmuel4 ай бұрын
Agree. there is more than one way to skin a cat. Punching, when its working, is the most accurate way to shoot a bow... But when the mind starts anticipating, things get dicey fast. The guys who are top shooters and punch, have very strong minds to begin with. Very determined people.
@tylerchubb38764 ай бұрын
@TheSchmuel well punching is when you have no contact with the trigger and you just grab/slap it VS command shooting you have your finger on the trigger with a slight amount of pressure the you finish the trigger when the pin gets where it needs to be. But yes when someone is trying to time the punch an the pin being in the middle thing can get bad fast..... But it looks in this video he is command shooting not punching. I'd like to see a video of him shooting his normal shot to see if he truly is punching or commanding.
@kylemacdonell14504 ай бұрын
@@tylerchubb3876 And just look how up and down these guys are annually and over a career. Joels way is NOT the only way.. Its just the CORRECT WAY.. Bodie is young and over time will dominate. !!!
@ronu67244 ай бұрын
Joel can get a free flagship bow with all the accessories but shoots a recurve.
@johnc67384 ай бұрын
I have never shot with a release. It has always been finger release Now firearms yes but not with a bow. I do know with firearms at 1000 yards the trigger discipline can bring so much into your shot.
@HywelOwen4 ай бұрын
World's best coach. World's worst hat.
@APWPaint4 ай бұрын
Meanwhile no one is talking about that goofy elbow low draw. Decrease your draw weight my man.