We invented a FASTER Clock method

[@LazyEinstein]

Sheerin's No Flip is the only reason I would solve clock. Hyped to learn more.

[@DcubesOfficial]

Tommy Cherry: uploads Me: I don't like clock but imma watch it anyways Meanwile: Convinced me to start clocking

[@TommyCherry]

AYYYYY that's the spirit

[@Chamemelon]

Great to see videos being made on this method!

[@wickedturtle2140]

This is a really cool method! I have known the very basic flip method for clock for awhile and watched calebs 7 simul tutorial to try and learn it. It seemed like the tutorial made the assumption that you already know no flip clock methods. Is there going to be a more detailed tutorial in the future?

[@Progress_vs_time]

We can all agree that this aged pretty well.

[@thewish6528]

What happened

[@thewish6528]

Oh wait nvm

[@Progress_vs_time]

@@thewish6528 yeah he got WR a few months after uploading this, with the method he introduced here.

[@connoreasley1222]

I only average 11 seconds with a intermediate clock method but this looks really cool!

[@kyle.m8880]

Looks really cool! I saw that there is a diagonal move in there which is very interesting, and I'll definitely have to consider switching to this method from Sheerin

[@TommyCherry]

glad you picked up on that haha. looking forward to seeing more people switch :)

[@ClockBestEvent]

\ moves are so fun

[@ClockBestEvent]

Hard memo though

[@wildrubikslegokids1242]

@@ClockBestEvent Is this Clock, Squan, or 5BLD?

[@ClockBestEvent]

@@wildrubikslegokids1242 AHAHhaahha all at once Ig, I his method he memeorizes 6 letter pairs

[@Druuner_wtf]

I think very soon will be clock wr single

[@A_Glad]

And this is where it all started

[@CubeATime-AKAEddieArtze]

Bro that's insane! I would definitely love a tutorial! I average 5.5 with sheerin, I can't imagine what I would average with this 😲

[@raforsomething]

I haven’t a clue about clock methods, but seems very interesting. I’m looking forward to a look at the method itself

[@TommyCherry]

it certainly is interesting!

[@pankajsharma7511]

Was this the new method used to break the world records

[@TommyCherry]

yep!

[@joelk6104]

I really want to get good at clock and i plan on using this method. Tutorial soon?

[@CrimsonsCubes]

super hyped to see you get some good solves with this at rocky top!

[@PhoenixTVSpeedcuber]

That's cool! By the way, how long has it taken to learn the full method?

[@Duck-pi5pe]

Would be cool to see you use it in a comp if only just in the first round as a test of the method

[@TommyCherry]

I might

[@ironagentm544]

@@TommyCherry Pegasus 2023?

[@rk31]

@@ironagentm544 lol he got nar with this method in that comp

[@JPDcuber]

I've learned the method, it's awesome. Not terribly hard to learn either. It's definitely one of, if not the best clock method.

[@HermanKalland]

Wow cool, excited for the tutorial!

[@JohnDaCuber]

where is caleb trelford

[@CalebTrelford]

I don't know.

[@CubeATime-AKAEddieArtze]

😂

[@JohnDaCuber]

@@CalebTrelford lul

[@noob2speedcube]

Dang, this is sick. Also, did u see the video of the man who DNF'd a possible 3x3 bld WR?!! I am going to be at the upcoming Pegasus event in Orlando, hope to see you there, and also hope to see u set another world record!!!

[@TommyCherry]

yep, I saw! Gianfranco is amazing. thanks and looking forward to seeing you at Pegasus!

[@keithliamrasco2256]

if im new to 7 simul do need to write down my memo?

[@KaiusYoung]

This method seems pretty cool, I’m excited to learn it

[@TommyCherry]

I'm excited for you to learn it!

[@wildrubikslegokids1242]

How many moves do you count two simultaneous moves as?

[@TommyCherry]

1

[@wildrubikslegokids1242]

@@TommyCherry But why? That doesn't seem right to me.

[@TommyCherry]

@@wildrubikslegokids1242 if by 2 simultaneous moves you meant 2 moves done simultaneously, then 1 since they're done at the same time.

[@wildrubikslegokids1242]

@@TommyCherry Do you consider the Ja Perm to be nine moves?

[@TommyCherry]

I assume you're talking about this alg for it: R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L I tend to think about it as 10 even though it's 9 in ATM (axial turn metric) since I wouldn't do the R and L at the same time in solves, but then again I don't use that alg anyway lol I think something that makes an important difference between simultaneous clock moves and the R and L in that Ja Perm alg is that with clock, your moves with each hand can pretty much act independently of each other. Doing R and L isn't the same on 3x3 since you have to adjust your hand for R based on how you do L (or vice versa). You bring up a good point though. Since I haven't completely "mastered" turning with this method, I don't completely do moves simultaneously sometimes. For simplicity's sake, I consider all pairs of front and back moves on clock as single simultaneous moves. Ideally they'd be around the same speed as normal moves, but there's a lot more to pay attention to as well as a lot more accuracy required when doing 2 moves at a time, so it ends up being slower. Imo clock turn metrics are pretty difficult to standardized (or just underexplored). There are things to consider like pin transitions, number of dial clicks, and whether or not moves can be done simultaneously, but in my experience, most of the time people just talk about the number of pin positions (like when they say that Sheerin is 9 moves since it requires 9 pin positions). You really got me thinking with this one lol

[@JudeStradtner]

How is memo with this method? Is it similar/the same as Sheeran?

[@TommyCherry]

it's harder for sure, but you don't need to memo *all* of the moves to have a 7 simul move solution. I only memo 4 of them cuz it's easier, and since u can do the last 3 intuitively, whatever difference it would make to also memo those would be pretty small. I memo 4 simultaneous moves as 4 letter pairs, which is about the same as 3BLD corners (or 2BLD lol), but the calculations u need in order to memo those letter pairs are a lot harder than just tracing like you would in 3BLD. I think lots of people will be able to use it even without much bld experience/memo practice cuz a lot of it is just about getting the process down so it becomes automatic. also the method's still in its early stages, so other things may be better to focus on for maximizing inspection than memoing moves that aren't necessary to figure out in inspection.

[@TommyCherry]

u do memo in a kinda similar way, but there's significantly more to memo with this one

[@klbklb5331]

Is clock gonna be one of your new main events or is this just for the sake of the event in general?

[@TommyCherry]

it's already one of my main events and probably will be for a long time haha

[@ElijahLaPorte]

how do you get good at simul moves?

[@Shush_95]

I don't even have a clock but i want a tutorial on this method soon

[@TheInternetofRandom]

Seriously I really want to know this method before it blows up and everyone is using it

[@bobthegiraffemonkey]

Hell yeah! Can't wait to see how this works.

[@MegaMindUZ]

I really liked it, and I'm waiting the Tutorial. Approximately When you will take a video and upload to KZbin?

[@TommyCherry]

Thanks! I'll likely have the tutorial ready next month

[@MegaMindUZ]

@@TommyCherry I will wait😊 I'm Uzbekistan NR holder with Ao5: 9.12, Single: 7,65) Thanx🤩

[@MegaMindUZ]

@@TommyCherry For switching to this method, should I learn No-flip method? Or this method is different?

[@TommyCherry]

@@MegaMindUZ They're different methods. The normal no-flip method (sheerin) is a good way to transition into this method since you get used to the type of turning and memorization you'd use with 7simul

[@MegaMindUZ]

@@TommyCherry I got you. Thank you, and congratulations with WR on 3BLD🥳

[@MaxJensenSUBSRIBE]

I really want a tutorial

[@jameschea.]

I dont do clock but this method sounds pretty awesome. good luck at you comps

[@TommyCherry]

thanks!

[@TetraCubing]

Do clock smh

[@noahswor]

inb4 Bpaul!! clock one looking realistic 🤯

[@randomcubestuff3426]

who is bpaul???

[@cfoples]

@@randomcubestuff3426 i do not know! do you know the where?

[@tripat2888]

@@cfoples no bpaul does not exist

[@nuggleiii]

Clock these days.

[@AndyMok]

insanely fast

[@Dumbledorf1234]

I'm waiting for the world record

[@TommyCherry]

I think it'll happen with this method soon enough

[@Dumbledorf1234]

This make me want to start practicing GL on the comp

[@heathflick8937]

How difficult is the learning process?

[@TommyCherry]

more difficult than normal noflip, but I think it's still pretty reasonable for lots of people to learn it

[@ItBeOnai]

See you at Rocky Top!

[@TommyCherry]

hype!

[@TheInternetofRandom]

You have made me want to stay doing clock and I used to hate it

[@Kyoobiesss]

So it consistently uses 2 wheels?

[@TommyCherry]

if by wheels u mean dials, yeah

[@Kyoobiesss]

@@TommyCherry Ah yeah dials then. Okay awesome!

[@cube4lifeOFFICAL]

I really want to learn this! How often do you find yourself DNF-ing?

[@TommyCherry]

probably like 20% of the time, but I think it'll be a lot less with enough practice

[@2x2Killer]

How can I learn it?

[@TommyCherry]

I'll make a tutorial at some point soon

[@AedanBryant]

Dang I am Really out of the loop on clock methods lol I’d like to learn this method, although it seems pretty time consuming to do.

[@TommyCherry]

clock is evolving!!! it's not an insane amount of stuff to learn, but does take a while to get used to.

[@ClockBestEvent]

I took me 1 day to get sub 8 and after finding a tutorial on bilibili (chinise yt) and further improving it it took me 1 day to understand, def harder than sheerin to master though

[@lk_cubing]

I am definitely going to learn this once you release the tutorial

[@benbaron8951]

clock

[@lk_cubing]

clock

[@josuegomez1232]

me too

[@FrankyyCubez]

This is going to be the new best method!

[@koulmemaybe]

Tommy cherry my favourite Rubik's Clock content creator

[@cfoples]

sukant koul my favourite benjamin warry fan

[@koulmemaybe]

@@cfoples i love u hayden

[@cfoples]

7 simul oh my god!

[@TommyCherry]

the hype is real!!

[@owenbrooks2663]

Damn hope that you get some good results with this method

[@arthurfu1109]

what a crack

[@benbgaming.vrfs15]

IM GOING TO ROCKY TOP

[@dutchcube565]

Wow sound like a great method to learn

[@Antoineqube]

tuto please

[@TommyCherry]

soon enough :)

[@w1ngsanox314]

lou method?

[@TommyCherry]

nope. lou is similar to sheerin, but with a less efficient pin order

[@w1ngsanox314]

@@TommyCherry yeah i avg 11 with lou but maybe i should switch

[@aarondoescubing]

I really thought i time traveled to april 1st when I saw the thumbnail

[@TommyCherry]

lol

[@josuegomez1232]

give me a friggin tutorial man pls

[@josuegomez1232]

i need this

[@npaul-]

bpaul

[@mo2cubing]

5 rounds! I hope you get WR, even if it hurts my Kinch :p

[@TommyCherry]

I didn't end up getting WR lol

[@yat_ii]

​@@TommyCherryFr

[@marioprogamer12345]

Insane

[@AdrienAuvrayMatyn]

:O i want to learn

[@Druuner_wtf]

Can you make a tutorial pls⏲️

[@TommyCherry]

as soon as I have time :)

[@finixss_1]

I don't do clock but ok I guess 👍

[@randomcubestuff3426]

:)

[@andreaslambropoulos1159]

:D

[@pyracuber2916]

Oh come on I just started learning no-flip! 😭

[@TommyCherry]

it's ok you'll still get used to some parts of this method through normal no-flip

[@randomcubestuff3426]

being practiced in sheerin really helps with both being able to memo and being able to execute simultaneous moves well

[@mobilegaminggods2934]

first

[@TommyCherry]

no lol

[@mobilegaminggods2934]

@@TommyCherry yes

[@InfinityCuberRS3M]

cool (first)

[@JudeStradtner]

How is memo with this method? Is it similar/the same as Sheeran?

[@randomcubestuff3426]

its a bit harder but not way harder