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@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Күн бұрын
Planning your own 4-card tournament? Find ALL the decklists here: bit.ly/3Z4Za8U
@matteorossi1172
@matteorossi1172 Күн бұрын
i can't wait for 5 card decks
@Kris-dh6zy
@Kris-dh6zy Күн бұрын
Carl i love u
@GeoQuag
@GeoQuag Күн бұрын
@matteorossi1172 more cards often ends up being less interesting because decks become more homogenous. The most common number to do something like this is 3
@Ploop102
@Ploop102 Күн бұрын
It would be cool if you gave a shout-out to the 3 card blind format, which is a similar format with an existing online community. I watched your first 4 card tournament and wanted to find something similar that I could participate in, and since then I have found 3 card blind. I would have appreciated something to give me more information about how I could do something silimar, so I think it would be nice if you gave future viewers that opportunity.
@Tselel
@Tselel Күн бұрын
The strongest tool in a Magic player's toolkit is communication with other players and bouncing ideas off of each other. Not spoiling the end, but I think the result is a fine example of how having a great idea and sharpening it against your friends is the best way to build decks in Magic.
@DJBarrister
@DJBarrister Күн бұрын
Especially if your friends have names like "Budde", "Finkel", "Wiegersma", "Jensen", and "Duke". xD
@uhvoiidtv
@uhvoiidtv 13 сағат бұрын
but they cheated, using more than 20 minutes to come up with a strategy
@EDZ1LLA
@EDZ1LLA Күн бұрын
"What are you doing to counter that meta game?" "We are going to copy that plan." 🤣
@sh41
@sh41 Күн бұрын
This is the kind of content I love this channel for. Funky, innovative, fun and unconventional.
@bobwilson679
@bobwilson679 Күн бұрын
I love the fact that those two guys came into the tournament with decks already prepared confident they were going to win, and they did it. They won. They did indeed crack the meta
@GG-dt5hh
@GG-dt5hh Күн бұрын
It's insane the luck they needed to make it to the finals, though. There were so many decks that just win on turn 1 that they would have lost to if they lost the coin flip. The fact they both made the finals was probably a decent amount to do with being able to pick your opponent so they could dodge all the bad matchups
@uhvoiidtv
@uhvoiidtv 13 сағат бұрын
they cheated using more than 20 minutes to come up with a strategy lmao
@danielcrosby1254
@danielcrosby1254 Сағат бұрын
@@uhvoiidtv i think they were familiar with 3 card blind meta
@lyra6225
@lyra6225 Күн бұрын
Would’ve liked to see how the Foil deck could’ve possibly tied.
@rubensanchezgil722
@rubensanchezgil722 Күн бұрын
The red deck has 3 threats, so even though Foil can stop 1 of them, Rootwalla + Gut Shot ties or loses to the other two (block and shoot two goblin tokens or trade with the 2/2 goblin)
@TheKilaby
@TheKilaby Күн бұрын
The only thing i could think of is when the foil deck needed to start. Then decided to pass but because the opponent smelled shenanigans they also passed and they tied in infinte passing? otherwise i cant see that deck loose no matter the outcome. Edit. from what ive read in the comments, the two deck with 2 goblins where its demise both goblins are 1/2 and the burn spell cant kill the second goblin on its own.
@Kristjan0209
@Kristjan0209 Күн бұрын
​@TheKilaby yeah the version with 2 goblins and bolts just always wins and the version with grenade instead of bolt always ties
@simon_herts
@simon_herts Күн бұрын
Right now I can't really see how it could hope to even tie against the opponent. Three goblin tokens alone win against it, so Kuldotha is a must-counter, but the other two should win against Rootwalla + Gut Shot in every line. Either way, the Foil deck is by far the coolest in my opinion!
@natben6099
@natben6099 Күн бұрын
@@simon_herts the tokens aren't allowed to git the board
@dang476
@dang476 Күн бұрын
The Foil and Burning Inquiry decks were on a higher level than the rest.
@TuberTugger
@TuberTugger Күн бұрын
The desert brute deck has a chance to clobber the inquiry build and the goblins. If it wasn't for the troll meta, they'd've probably won it all.
@MTG3CardBlind
@MTG3CardBlind Күн бұрын
Another great video on a single digit card format! I know my channel and community is a tiny fraction of the size of yours, but I would love to talk to you a little about our community if you are interested in exploring this niche within Magic a little further.
@Joshimuz
@Joshimuz Күн бұрын
Big ups for this guy
@Garwinium
@Garwinium Күн бұрын
THE GOAT HIMSELF HAS ARRIVED
@benicioconceicao5110
@benicioconceicao5110 Күн бұрын
Like this so cardmarket can see it!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Күн бұрын
Hey! It's you! I discovered your channel from the comments section on our last 4-card video and did a bit of a deep dive. Your community is wonderful :D What you're doing is so cool! I don't know how a collaboration would work exactly but I'd be absolutely open to it if you have an idea :)
@Garwinium
@Garwinium Күн бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic hype
@AJZesty
@AJZesty Күн бұрын
5:20 Neither one of them can beat their opponent. If someone is forced to attack, they lose, so they would never attack and draw.
@yamiarts2894
@yamiarts2894 Күн бұрын
exactly my thoughts
@tripple-a6031
@tripple-a6031 Күн бұрын
-I thought so too at first but the 3 squirrels could do 2 damage, then goblin 2, squirrels 2 and so on. Squirrels win. He also cannot stall since he's already at lower life at this point.- Edit: Guess lower life total doesn't matter, it's still a tie. The more you know.
@mikekukovec4386
@mikekukovec4386 Күн бұрын
@@tripple-a6031 that's only if Goblin attacks back though. he could just block a squirrel and then sit back. It's a stalemate unless there's some rule I'm missing like "must attack" or something
@diegomerino9571
@diegomerino9571 Күн бұрын
Yep the player that makes a move loses threfore none do and its a tie they should have scooped an played another
@BloodMoonGo
@BloodMoonGo Күн бұрын
Ah Tomer, the internet's inter-national treasure
@reyny2118
@reyny2118 Күн бұрын
But why did he surrender at 5:20 ? Wasn't that a clear draw? Or did he lose because he was lower on life?
@jarpok
@jarpok Күн бұрын
@@reyny2118 I suppose it's because it will be a stalemate (neither will attack) and he had a lower life total.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Күн бұрын
He simply chose to concede instead of draw, that way his opponent makes it into the next round :)
@HermiHg
@HermiHg Күн бұрын
As a huge fan of three card blind, I’d love to see this four card pauper format played more!
@thewannabecraftsman
@thewannabecraftsman Күн бұрын
@ 5:oo Tomer and his opponent actually entered a draw if they played it out, The red creature cant attack into 3 tokens, because he blocks with two and has a 1/1 that beats down. LIke wise if he doesnt attack, he stone walls tomers atack and just eats tokens. The game draws since both just dont attack for entirety basically, whoever attacks loses essentially
@sonnilowe8858
@sonnilowe8858 Күн бұрын
Yeah, that was weird right? Like, it was a draw no matter who started. Did this not come up in the tournament? There's a lot of matchups that work out like this.
@lastnamefirstname8655
@lastnamefirstname8655 Күн бұрын
even more fun with tournaments and 4-card magic! thanks cardmarket magic! glad to see even more live in-person interactions with so many other magic players!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Күн бұрын
It was super fun! I'm happy you enjoyed it :)
@matthewgarcia7308
@matthewgarcia7308 Күн бұрын
Noooo! Tomer you win or draw that match in all cases! Someone needs more Pai Gow reps
@TuberTugger
@TuberTugger Күн бұрын
I think it's only draw. If the discard was random, he'd have a chance. But the opponent will always keep a 2/2.
@adbirk19
@adbirk19 Күн бұрын
@@TuberTugger You are correct. I think "all cases" includes Opp choosing to attack.
@skrelvthemite
@skrelvthemite Күн бұрын
the final matchup is wild. 2 brilliant friends with the same list. in reality theres 4 possibilities of what happens 1. turn 1 forest play rootwalla. if opponent does the same thing, you win. you play second land, cast inquiry to get rid of their 2nd land, now its a 3/3 vs a 1/1 2. turn 1 forest play rootwalla. if opponent does mountain inquiry, its a tie. you both have a 1/1 rootwalla 3. turn1 mountain inquiry. opponent discards rootwalla 75%, its a tie. both stuck with a 1/1 4. turn 1 mountain inquiry. opponent doesn't discard rootwalla, 25%, you win. they can't play anything and you win for one
@HarperPenrose
@HarperPenrose Күн бұрын
Given both players had all the information they needed to make a perfect decision, picking option 4 both rounds was really the only option. They knew turn 1 forest rootwalla just lets their opponent force a tie, so the only option left was to roll those dice. So fun to watch the whole tournament, and that 4 card deck was brilliant!
@huckthatdish
@huckthatdish Күн бұрын
So mountain inquiry is the only shot at winning if you assume your opponent will play correctly
@mattybotxxgaming7754
@mattybotxxgaming7754 15 сағат бұрын
It was awesome to be there and compete thank you all for the fun Friday
@mistriousfrog
@mistriousfrog Күн бұрын
What is most interesting about the rootwalla deck to me is it is the only one from the finalists which had a losing matchup to the troll exhume deck going second. All of the others could either beat it, or stall it out enough to get a turn going first.
@JikaranTV
@JikaranTV Күн бұрын
Goblin grenade was an inside job!
@fel_95
@fel_95 22 сағат бұрын
Amazing event, unfortunately I was booked for the sides and main event already but it was nice seeing this cute format around!
@MathisGries-ml5qv
@MathisGries-ml5qv Күн бұрын
4 commons at a Pauper event is a pretty great idea! I wonder what other formats can be done with this. Maybe a complex one where 1 each has to be Standard/Pioneer/Modern/Legacy-legal, or Common/Uncommon/Rare/Mythic. But also, what if there are legal Un-cards ...
@gabrielemarogna9444
@gabrielemarogna9444 Күн бұрын
Ok, before I watch the video, I'm thinking: Island, 2x force spike, slippery bogle. If those were hard to find, I would pivot to plains, 2x mana tithe, law-rune enforcer (?)
@gabrielemarogna9444
@gabrielemarogna9444 Күн бұрын
Dunno if nobody thought of what I did, but it would have probably gotten owned by the burning inquiry whenever you lost the die roll. That pump on the roof walls would have owned me, 2 lands in deck?! 😅
@gabrielemarogna9444
@gabrielemarogna9444 Күн бұрын
Out a mana tithe, in an impeccable timing?
@TheReaperGriefer
@TheReaperGriefer Күн бұрын
It was a real pleasure having you around guys! ♥
@violaknapp7904
@violaknapp7904 Күн бұрын
Carl must have channeled his inner Jamin to come up with that many puns for the narration! I loved it
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Күн бұрын
I did 🥸 Jamin taught me the way of the pun, I am no Jamin and still a student but trying my best
@dannyhartman9110
@dannyhartman9110 9 сағат бұрын
i absolutely did not expect this to be as exciting as it was when you described the concept. very cool.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 8 сағат бұрын
I'm truly thrilled that you enjoyed this :) it was super fun to film!
@icansavehiphop
@icansavehiphop Күн бұрын
I love this take on 3 card blind!
@_z3i
@_z3i 21 сағат бұрын
Yeah, it was a super interesting way to do it
@SamanthaHoffman-e1b
@SamanthaHoffman-e1b Күн бұрын
Why wasn’t the Foil semifinal game covered? The graphic showed it going up against the burning inquiry deck and then I was so confused on how that ended in a tie
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Күн бұрын
None of the people with the cameras watched it, but I still wanted to talk about it in the video because it was so cool :)
@viviblue7277
@viviblue7277 Күн бұрын
Commons that’s a nice twist. Give people time and they can break 4 card blind, there is a good reason the format with infinite planning time is 3 card blind not 4…. and look at that the 2 players who predicted the event shattered it because they and that’s why burning inquiry is usually banned in these kind of formats.
@Kettwiesel25
@Kettwiesel25 Күн бұрын
And There is a reason 3 card blind has a huge banlist ;)
@megamert2848
@megamert2848 Күн бұрын
Wait at 5:30 doesn't Tomer actually basically just tie, because he will have 3 1/1 so can't attack but if the opponent attacks 2 of his 1/1s will trade and he will win with one so neither can attack because then they would lose so it is just a stalemate?
@jimiabseits7536
@jimiabseits7536 Күн бұрын
Yeah thought so too. Idk.
@bat9056
@bat9056 Күн бұрын
How did the counter spell deck lose?
@mizoudelavega6441
@mizoudelavega6441 Күн бұрын
I guess aggro goblin does turn 1 goblin, gets countered, turn 2 goblin and it's game because goblin has 2HP
@bat9056
@bat9056 Күн бұрын
@mizoudelavega6441 oh I thought it had 1 toughness for some reason
@brysonsmith1523
@brysonsmith1523 Күн бұрын
I think it loses to the red kuldotha decks that the other list can beat by pumping +2/+2
@kylegonewild
@kylegonewild Күн бұрын
@@brysonsmith1523 Foil deck was also playing Rootwalla so it ties to the Inquiry deck's main game plan and kills their opposing Rootwalla in response to any attempt to pump with gut shot in the long game. Foil deck was favored against Inquiry funny enough but it was heavily unfavored against Goblins because it only disrupts 1 card of its opponent's not 3 of them.
@sl3848
@sl3848 Күн бұрын
I think it tied and so didn’t make the finals since there were two people who won their match
@BrodyTwice
@BrodyTwice Күн бұрын
The foil/rootwalla deck is what my initial thought was, really in love with the goblin grenade deck and the burning inquiry deck those ideas are awesome
@bradjones9784
@bradjones9784 Күн бұрын
A 2/2 versus 3 1/1s is a stalemate
@JosephParker_Nottheboxer
@JosephParker_Nottheboxer 21 сағат бұрын
I'd love to this this as a 5 card or 6 card format... this is totally my jam *lol*
@tetros5265
@tetros5265 Күн бұрын
King Gizzard reference? :) I'm sure it was chaotic, but awesome idea!!
@banditolombardo2867
@banditolombardo2867 18 сағат бұрын
Im so glad i ended up in this video even if I'm losing to the amazing troll deck on first round! 😂 A huge thanks to Carl (Market), Thoralf and Jamin for being incredibly kind in meeting the fans and to my opponent Victor who was a blast to play against also on day 0! Paupergeddon truly is one of the best experiences i had tied to mtg, a true gathering!
@jackmarino8162
@jackmarino8162 Күн бұрын
Mountain, Akoum Hellhound, Adventuring Gear, and Gruul turf. Play the mountain and the Hellhound. Next turn throw out adventuring gear. Play the gruul turf to trigger landfall and bounce the gruul turf to it's own trigger. Adventuring gear is only there to speed up the game. Loses to the discard strats.
@HearseonHydros
@HearseonHydros Күн бұрын
I love when Carl starts talking about magic like a science professor 😅
@johnkingsize
@johnkingsize Күн бұрын
That's the kind of videos I love seeing here. Marketing stunts that are cool, fun and in tune with the community. I hope you did manage to take breaks, though.
@xanthmardon584
@xanthmardon584 Күн бұрын
0:55 foundations has to be the worst possible example because burst lightning is literally the best spell there, save for maybe tamiyo or if you really love black and hate red hero's downfall
@Lazy_Froovlet
@Lazy_Froovlet 12 сағат бұрын
@3:06 o cara ali tá com um agasalho do Flamengo!
@mikewest7839
@mikewest7839 23 сағат бұрын
You could just go to each event and ban all the non basic land cards in the top 8 each time to keep the meta fresh. Getting rid of rootwalla, burning inquiry, troll and goblins would mix this up massively.
@markcargill1304
@markcargill1304 Күн бұрын
Before I watch my deck would have been: 2x Crack the Earth 1x Grim initiate 1x mountain Probably not a winner but I want to hedge against tron and also have answers to other strats or cut off mana if possible.
@markcargill1304
@markcargill1304 Күн бұрын
Oh wow. Burning inquiry with rootwalas looks near impossible to beat on the draw! But that deck also seems to lose hard on the draw vs troll animate dead. Regardles, a very well crafted deck an well earned win by those two!
@fredzfrog
@fredzfrog Күн бұрын
"oh my Dr Garfield" Brilliant!
@scottmckinney3756
@scottmckinney3756 Күн бұрын
It would be cool to see 1 card sideboard! since a normal sideboard in 60 card is 1/4 of a deck, having 1 card be a sideboard is perfect!!
@MunetsuguTakeno
@MunetsuguTakeno Күн бұрын
Certainly innovative! I dont think I could beat it, though personally I feel like I would run 2x of the madness guy and 1 mountain. Tech into mirror!
@curtissmith4628
@curtissmith4628 Күн бұрын
wouldn't that lose on the draw to the decks that get down enough turn 1 creatures? specifically the deck that gets faced at 9:50 in the video is only a draw because the player can buff the lizard to freely block attackers.
@gersoncoelho
@gersoncoelho 12 сағат бұрын
I love these videos and these ideas !!
@njohn043
@njohn043 Күн бұрын
Burning Inquiry has one of my favorite flavor texts ever
@ryangainey94
@ryangainey94 Күн бұрын
I think I'm missing something about the Rootwalla combo. If you play a mountain then a Burning Inquiry, you only have 2 other cards so you discard your whole hand, meaning you don't have a forest to pump the Rootwalla. And if you go second in the mirror matchup, your opponent is always guaranteed to discard at least one of your two lands. So at no point do you have 2 mana to pump the Rootwalla... Why even run 2 lands in the first place? Wouldn't it make more sense to run one land, one burning inquiry, and 2 Rootwallas? At no point is it possible to play the second land, so what am I missing?
@eel1727
@eel1727 Күн бұрын
If you go second in a non mirror matchup, you can avoid playing inquiry until you have two lands out, which forces a draw against goblins because they can't attack well. Then you go to game 2 going first, which should win you the match
@ichVII
@ichVII Күн бұрын
Maybe if you go second and your opponent dumps their entire hand on turn 1, you go with two lands instead? Im not sure either.
@FernandoGonzalez-hu3id
@FernandoGonzalez-hu3id Күн бұрын
If you go first, an go Mountain Into Burning Inquiry, you get a free (madness) Rootwalla, while your oponent looses 75% of their hand, at that point your oponent is unlikely to play any creatures so you do not need to pump the rootwalla to win If you Go second you play both of the lands first then you play the burning inquiry and the free rootwalla hoping a 3/3 is good enought to stop their plan.
@jmkqfnvyl87
@jmkqfnvyl87 Күн бұрын
Nice line at the end 😊
@TheDarkElder
@TheDarkElder Күн бұрын
Four for the win! At least in Magic a bit of madness helps a lot.
@TheTexasDice
@TheTexasDice Күн бұрын
aww, I wanted to see the foil deck win
@Zaekmusic
@Zaekmusic Күн бұрын
Having the shortest guy in the room run the video camera is a good meme 😂
@crazy_ai2414
@crazy_ai2414 Күн бұрын
You should look up mtg 3 card blind, it is very similar to this
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Күн бұрын
I discovered it from the comments of the last video we did like this, it's a great community :) I definitely recommend 👌
@sorin_markov
@sorin_markov Күн бұрын
There's a channel that does this with one fewer card and non-Pauper! It's pretty cool!
@Tlonuqbar826
@Tlonuqbar826 Күн бұрын
3 card blind it's called, awesome channel
@sorin_markov
@sorin_markov Күн бұрын
@@Tlonuqbar826 Indeed, but they seem to have censored all three of those words in parent comments, so I had to use my trusty thesaurus to make a comment that wouldn't get deleted
@King-fo3kj
@King-fo3kj Күн бұрын
​@@sorin_markovthey have not, unsure what you're on about
@sorin_markov
@sorin_markov Күн бұрын
@@King-fo3kj Well, every comment that I or anyone from the server have tried to post with those words have been deleted and this is the first one that's stuck afaik
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Күн бұрын
We do not delete comments 😅 three card blind is awesome :) I found out about it last time we made a four card video thanks to the comments and am grateful! It's a lovely community
@bencheevers6693
@bencheevers6693 Күн бұрын
How did the ties resolve into the mirror? That foil deck would win I thought?
@AlexMtz153
@AlexMtz153 Күн бұрын
I was just thinking about this video!
@SamanthaHoffman-e1b
@SamanthaHoffman-e1b Күн бұрын
How does Tomer lose there? A 2/2 vs 3 1/1s is a draw as whichever player attacks first loses.
@godtiermtg
@godtiermtg Күн бұрын
Carl, very important question! In your version of these four card formats, would someone draw a card for turn if you were to put something they played on top of their library (e.g. Subtlety in Modern)? Or do players just not draw for turn at all?
@cpthavoc5571
@cpthavoc5571 Күн бұрын
The only thing he said to that is that you dont lose to decking, so I would assume all other normal magic rules are in play, your library exists just empty and your draw happens but doesnt kill you.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Күн бұрын
You would draw indeed :) there was a fun deck in this tournament with 2 lands, lembas and cauldron familiar that just endlessly drew lembas. You could also be really sneaky and put a miracle card on top of your library with Brainstorm 🤠
@daem0nfaust
@daem0nfaust Күн бұрын
The shared playmat makes this format extra cute
@MookSam
@MookSam Күн бұрын
Love these goofy challenges! Though I think they probably should have had 2 rootwallas or a free spell instead of the forest.
@curtissmith4628
@curtissmith4628 Күн бұрын
the forest was required for the game at 9:50 to defend on the draw against a deck with multiple turn 1 creatures so that rootwalla could then win on the play.
@NStripleseven
@NStripleseven Күн бұрын
Scuffed 3 card blind my beloved
@sl3848
@sl3848 Күн бұрын
I hope there is more paupergeddon content coming 🙏
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Күн бұрын
There is!
@giffdude
@giffdude Күн бұрын
I feel like 1 Desert Pinger (G/B) 2 innocent blood, and 1 basking rootwalla would do really good
@MicahCohan
@MicahCohan Күн бұрын
Card market is everything I love about my favorite game
@Corners___
@Corners___ Күн бұрын
fans of this format should check out Three Card Blind!
@XenithShadow
@XenithShadow Күн бұрын
10:44 how did the foil deck tie, the match up was 100% a losss for them. The opponent had a 3 threat and they had 1 counter spell.
@sonnilowe8858
@sonnilowe8858 Күн бұрын
They were against the two Tomb Raiders, Goblin Grenade mountain deck right? So they have "three" threats, but one requires using two cards. Whichever goblin is played first gets countered by foil pitching Rootwalla into play. Second goblin comes out and trades for rootwalla and gutshot. If they want to goblin grenade the rootwalla, they have to sac their goblin.
@XenithShadow
@XenithShadow 20 сағат бұрын
@@sonnilowe8858 Nope the three threat were goblin tomb raid which if not foiled will just beat the rootwall, vodraren epicure which will trade for gutshot and the more relavent kuldath rebirth destroy and artifact make 3 1/1 goblins. This also just beats the root walla. They can also sac either their land or their blood token to get the 31/1's its a garunteed win.
@sonnilowe8858
@sonnilowe8858 13 сағат бұрын
@@XenithShadow Could have have been a mistake somewhere then. Either the editing of the video showed the wrong matchup, or the red player played a horrible game and didn't realize their mistake. We've already seen the Tomer matchup earlier in the video that should have been a tie rather than a loss. Red player could have gotten to what they thought was a draw and just scooped it up.
@Fanofstuff
@Fanofstuff Күн бұрын
I wonder how things would pan out with the following rules tweaking Build a 5 Card pauper deck each player draws 4 cards at the start starting player exiles the last card in their library (or simply doesnt draw it for turn or smt) second player gets to draw their fifth card everything else the same
@ghoulofmetal
@ghoulofmetal Күн бұрын
Artifact land + lotus petal can cast refurbished familiar
@jeohist
@jeohist Күн бұрын
This is my new favourite format.
@Kerrmunism
@Kerrmunism Күн бұрын
There's a similar format you can play online called 3 Card Blind, same idea but not pauper and you only use 3 cards c:
@saw8814
@saw8814 Күн бұрын
Did they plan to tie at the end? Whoever goes first should just play mountain go knowing the other player can't Burning inquiry because it will result in a tie then on their next turn forest inquiry so their rootwalla can be pumped but opponents can't.
@djii7837
@djii7837 Күн бұрын
Your assuming they wont just play for the draw. If you put your opponent in a position of "draw now or lose next turn" they'll always draw now.
@callumvlex7059
@callumvlex7059 Күн бұрын
The writing on this episode was so good, I'm really glad you chose to slow things down: the effort really shows with episodes like this, ❤
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Күн бұрын
That is very kind of you to say :)
@bertilstenling
@bertilstenling Күн бұрын
I think gut shot, gut shot, basking rootwalla and a forest beats the inquiry deck
@Dazllingston
@Dazllingston Күн бұрын
How do they pump rootwalla if they have to discard the forest? The cost for ability is 1G, after playing the mountain and inqury, they have to discard forest and rootwalla, so how do they produce the second mana?
@drinjj
@drinjj Күн бұрын
Sooo... Even though you don't lose if you draw from empty is there still a draw step or a library? For example, let say I brainstorm, do the cards end up in a library and, if they do, do I ever get to see them again?
@GeoQuag
@GeoQuag Күн бұрын
In the traditional rules for this format, you still have a library and do draw if anything ends up there, it’s just the rule that makes you lose when you try to draw from an empty library that’s removed.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Күн бұрын
You can indeed draw cards put into your library, so brainstorming to put a miracle card there works :) but generally it's not a great idea because it just temporarily removes cards from your hand
@drinjj
@drinjj 14 сағат бұрын
@ I was more curious about if it was possible to use that as some sort of removal by sending the opponent's card there. Not that I think there would be a good card to do that but maybe. I don't hate the idea of miracle though, but there's only that work for pauper and it would be insufficient. The only miracle card that would have some chance for that strat would be triumph of saint Catherine. On a different subject, have you ever heard of the kingdoms commander variant ? Seem like a good fit for your channel.
@788evets
@788evets Күн бұрын
Oh my god yes. This was so fun last time.
@magnight767
@magnight767 Күн бұрын
The lizard would have won against the three goblins, goblins attack and he blocks, now he has higher damage and will eventually surpass them in damage, if they just attack with the lizard, he would have damage priority making them win due to doing the same damage quicker. Blocking with goblin would just result in loss.
@greenwave819
@greenwave819 Күн бұрын
these kids were way too hype!!!
@pdb189
@pdb189 Күн бұрын
I love this channel so much
@waldinjones
@waldinjones Күн бұрын
A youtube channel that understands the difference between literally and figuratively ! ! THANK YOU
@Thanatos6669
@Thanatos6669 Күн бұрын
tomer can double block killing the gobbo
@andrewsparkes6275
@andrewsparkes6275 Күн бұрын
Right? Use up two of the 1/1s to block with, leaving one 1/1 left to attack and kill the opponent...
@Jessalakasam
@Jessalakasam Күн бұрын
Seems like a draw no matter which player goes first cause neither want to attack
@cpthavoc5571
@cpthavoc5571 Күн бұрын
The opponent will never attack into 2 untapped goblins so he can never double block. If Tomer attacks, the opponent takes two damage and he loses a goblin. The opponent would then hold back again, if he attacks again he loses the second goblin and now its 17 life with a 2/2 vs 20 life with a 1/1. Obviously Tomer loses here. If Tomer doesn't attack, the opponent also doesn't attack, this repeats forever drawing the game. The first player to attack loses so neither player ever attacks.
@Thanatos6669
@Thanatos6669 Күн бұрын
@cpthavoc5571 which is a better outcome then losing
@andrewsparkes6275
@andrewsparkes6275 Күн бұрын
@@cpthavoc5571 Right. So, as you say, Toker should not have lost as an unavoidable conclusion, which he states in the video. He should have drawn at worst, not lost. My own point was his own theoretical 'out' that could justify a draw; not saying he could have won. The point is he thought he'd outright lost, which isn't true.
@joshuadee7423
@joshuadee7423 Күн бұрын
What was going on with that instant finals thing? Seems like the Foil deck should have beaten the Burning Inquiry deck.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 22 сағат бұрын
The foil deck tied against the mono red deck. And the two other mono red decks tied. So the only two winners went straight to the finals
@emsmax1830
@emsmax1830 Күн бұрын
Tomer's deck literally ties the tomb raider 😭
@regnsloja
@regnsloja Күн бұрын
heh, in the comments to the last video (which was modern, not pauper) i suggested mountain, burning inquiry, 2x blazing rootwalla. i was pretty close! wonder if they read my comment or came up with it separately ^^
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Күн бұрын
It would be really cool if you influenced the two winners of this tournament!
@Debatra.
@Debatra. 4 сағат бұрын
How exactly is the two-mana pump on the lizard happening when the forest gets discarded to burning inquiry?
@johnathanward867
@johnathanward867 Күн бұрын
Forest, Thallid, Thallid, Thallid
@kylejohnson4662
@kylejohnson4662 Күн бұрын
My deck idea is Dark Ritual, Troll of Khazad-Dum, Exhume, and a Swamp. Just putting this up before I watch the video.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic Күн бұрын
You would have done pretty well :) given how well the troll players did here
@robnotwicz7002
@robnotwicz7002 Күн бұрын
I think the Foil deck would have to be the best one here, since I don't think it's possible to lose, only to tie at worst.
@GeoQuag
@GeoQuag Күн бұрын
Land + 3 Savana lions (or other 2 power creature)
@lainling
@lainling Күн бұрын
@@GeoQuag Ties? Foil, gut shot, and rootwalla all trade 1 for 1. you'd need a 2 toughness creature to not trade with the rootwalla/gut shot
@XenithShadow
@XenithShadow Күн бұрын
5:22 technically that a forced draw shoulda found new opponents.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 22 сағат бұрын
That would have been an organizational nightmare 😅 it's much cleaner to have people who draw both lose, or the room would just be full of people getting up to pair again and again as everyone else has to wait each round :)
@XenithShadow
@XenithShadow 20 сағат бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic Ah i was under the impression that tomer said he lost and the other guy won. Yeah draws being double loses makes sense.
@michaelsimao495
@michaelsimao495 Күн бұрын
I would love to do this but my lack of deck buidling skill limits me so greatly well i guess just all lightning bolt would work
@evankraabel5415
@evankraabel5415 Күн бұрын
Why would you build refurbished familiar if theres no way to cast it turn 1?
@gloriusschwitzer5872
@gloriusschwitzer5872 Күн бұрын
No one with a foil foil??
@ninjasuperman9538
@ninjasuperman9538 Күн бұрын
How did Tomer lose? He could have either won the damage race or double blocked and had a 1/1 up with an opponent who has no cards in hand…
@DontUseHack
@DontUseHack Күн бұрын
Neither player ever attacks. He cant win.
@ninjasuperman9538
@ninjasuperman9538 Күн бұрын
Brain finally caught up you’re right
@cpthavoc5571
@cpthavoc5571 Күн бұрын
The opponent will never attack into 2 untapped goblins so he can never double block. If Tomer attacks, the opponent takes two damage and he loses a goblin. The opponent would then hold back again, if he attacks again he loses the second goblin and now its 17 life with a 2/2 vs 20 life with a 1/1. Obviously Tomer loses here. If Tomer doesn't attack, the opponent also doesn't attack, this repeats forever drawing the game. The first player to attack loses so neither player ever attacks.
@cat4luny4
@cat4luny4 23 сағат бұрын
this format is afordable
@miniyodadude6604
@miniyodadude6604 Күн бұрын
Wait, i missed what happened to foil
@YolkieYolk
@YolkieYolk Күн бұрын
Couldn't the three squirrels block the goblin to kill it and you have a remaining squirrel? Well, I guess it would be a tie
@Aksilyrat
@Aksilyrat Күн бұрын
Troll player could have gone further if he had used Generous Ent or Imposing Vantasaur instead, eh, I was rooting for you)
@sonnilowe8858
@sonnilowe8858 Күн бұрын
It's interesting, because the Ent or Saur loses in the mirror to Troll. Probably why the Trolls players went with Troll, they were thinking more about how they'd beat their own deck.
@MoNk3y8oN3
@MoNk3y8oN3 Күн бұрын
Tomer could double block and ping to win?
@iv9753
@iv9753 Күн бұрын
1:21 not on turn 2 it won't be
@jeanmanguy7900
@jeanmanguy7900 Күн бұрын
such a fun idea!
@Theyeventuallyfind
@Theyeventuallyfind 40 минут бұрын
a truly! beautiful veedeo
@paradaxarada
@paradaxarada 21 сағат бұрын
Forest Thalid Rootwalla Dismember
@michaelabere6770
@michaelabere6770 16 сағат бұрын
Ah the foil guy was the thing I thought of. Wonder how he does
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