We Need To Talk About The Latest SHEIN Scandal

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Report: stories.publiceye.ch/en/shein/
Shein theft example: www.dazeddigital.com/fashion/...
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[@berylide]

Oh no not you too :(

[@mxpofficial3443]

This is known to so many brands. Like H&M C&A Newyorker and more. Its not new, but people still dont know about it. STOP WEARING CHEAP SHIT GUYS. (But also dont buy overpriced stuff because its brand) in my country we use "im not rich enough to buy cheap things". And its best advice, if you have good shoes you wont need every year to buy new ones

[@zoejpg8102]

the fact that they have virtually no information on the behind the scenes of the company should be a major red flag for anyone

[@MissKoletta]

But many customers have no idea how it works. How many people you know who check the origin of anything they buy? The way Shein works should just be illegal, it's the only way to make it right: either you're transparent or you don't run any company.

[@pedrobastos1595]

they target Zoomers

[@annaagapova3583]

@@MissKoletta it should be illegal to have those work conditions. Don't change who's responsibility it is. Customers aren't responsible, companies are. They should be not allowed to do it in the first place.

[@MissKoletta]

@@annaagapova3583 this is exactly what I said.

[@vicki3220]

Isn’t that Chinese company? That would explain everything. Stay away from it. Isn’t all they produce mainly synthetic?

[@darthcupcake2]

From what I've heard, Shein also has high levels of lead in their dyes, which is really scary not only for consumers but even more for the workers who handle these products closely every day. Shein isn't just dangerous for the environment, it's dangerous for people's health.

[@elises.1588]

The canadian TV show The Marketplace did a report on this! The Shien products they tested had high levels of carcinogenic products in them, it's insane!

[@diray3474]

What the actual hell? How is Shein even still a thing...

[@grittykitty50]

I LOVE your name!

[@laurenconrad1799]

Dang. It’s like Scheele's green toxic Victorian dye in dresses all over again.

[@michipichu]

There are poisons everywhere in our everyday lives now. Just look at a common object, receipts. Most receipts are made from thermal paper which is covered in powdered BPA, a xenoestrogen. Excess estrogen is extremely disruptive to men, women's and children bodies.

[@tandrimabhattacharjee4014]

I was previously a consumer of Shein. I bought and still own multiple pieces from the app. But many of them fit completely wrong, and the material is mostly trash. When my country (India) banned the app, I was upset and couldn't wait to move to the UK (where I currently live) to get more from there. But in the time that I moved, I came across content such as this. I can't tell you how important it is for this information to be out there. The more I saw and read, the more I distanced myself from fast fashion. I honestly wanted to thank creators like Karolina, Bernadette, Mina, Justine, and many more for educating me on this topic. Thank You!

[@2cat4life]

throw those in the recycle bin omg. theres lead in the printing and fabric according to the top comment 😥

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

Good on India to ban them outright. We need to start holding Chinese companies and the CCP accountable. All of the West should be following suit. It's so frustrating.

[@EEsYouTubeChanel]

I have been looking through these videos and had some strange experiences with a couple people I used to work with who tried to get me to buy things from shein and I could not figure out why. Do you think they run it like an MLM somehow?

[@motox2416]

ALL fast fashion is terribly wasteful and made with shady labor practices. That's how it's always been. The problem this time is that the retailer, currently the most successful and disruptive in the world, is not an American or European company, but Chinese. Apparently we're fine with exploiting foreign workers, but only as long as we get to keep an obscene part of the profit. God forbid the wealth should stay in the country and with the people that created it...

[@enbi5440]

@@sarahi1149 based india

[@AmberOrtolano]

It’s WILD to me that ppl throw out clothes! I’ve only thrown out old underwear or trashed clothing that can’t be repurposed or donated. The thought of throwing a shirt or something in the trash makes me shudder omg

[@watsername]

This! I've got so many clothes from the trash that have been nearly new, or even new with tags sometimes! I think it doesn't help thrift stores are no longer selling many items cheap and are now seemingly all "boutique" style stores, charging higher prices so stock moves much slower and many aren't even accepting more donations or they're throwing out loads themselves... but useable clothing should never just be trashed. Ever.

[@gg_ingy]

Don't many people do it with just about anything? Phones, make-up, relationships.....

[@teagan_p_999]

I tore a shirt nearly in half in grade 9 playing tag in the forest and still couldn't make myself throw it out. Then again, I sew, so it was plausible that I'd find a use for it. Into the scrap fabric bin it went instead.

[@raerohan4241]

Same. Most of my clothing gets used until it's unusable, and even then it gets repurposed as washcloths, dishtowels, etc. Anything I don't want that's still wearable gets passed on to the next in line or is donated

[@Ichneumonxx]

Yeah if something doesn't fit me any longer I never throw it away, always donate. It's literally just a different bin to put them in, at least in Germany.

[@Youokhun]

I can never understand how someone doesn’t get attached to their clothes - no matter how cheap or expensive I wear mine to death and find it hard to part with them ever 🙈

[@kawaiikoffing]

I agree! I have quite a few chlothes from multiple years ago that i cant bear to part with because they mean alot to me, i recommend if you have a shirt that you love but it doesnt fit you and you don't wanna give it away, turn it into a pillow! You'll then still have your favorite shirt and a new pillow :D

[@subyssangel]

yeah i agree! For me even its it is like a £6 shirt i got at a charity shop you bet im wearing it until it literally falls apart

[@latterdaycovenantliving]

If you bought it from Shien it might literally fall apart after two washes which is what it might take to get the chemical fish smell off of the item.

[@johannageisel5390]

Same here. I have stuff that is 20+ years old that I still wear. Fleece pullovers or t-shirts mostly. The t-shirt I have on right now is a Fruit of the Loom one from my teenager years (I'm approaching 40 now). There were a few small holes which I have darned with darning thread from my deceased grandmother's stash. 😅

[@DieAlteistwiederda]

I'm the same way that's just how I was raised.

[@kittymervine6115]

my daughter, who has a very good salary, has made "Buy nothing new" for a year more than once, except for sneakers and underwear. She has found high quality beautiful vintage gowns for the fancy events, and even her everyday clothing is up a notch, as clothing that makes it to a thrift store has often been saved because it is quality clothing. The best clothing I own is thrifted. A beautiful hand sewn tweed coat from an island in Scotland, made by a community that worked together to make these masterpieces from sheep on the island to the finished product. I put it on, and people always comment. Over 50 years old but still, fabulous.

[@Lewisiaisoutofcontext]

I'm just a student so my budget is very limited, but that is exactly what I've been doing as well! In 4 or 5 years I've only bought underwear/socks, shoes, one pair of jeans and two t-shirts from "regular" stores. Everything else is second hand. It takes time to find the good stuff that's reasonably priced and well cared for, but you can find some real treasures once you get good at it. It also makes you care for your clothes in a whole different way, and mend and wear each piece until it falls apart. I'm never going back to shopping fast fashion again. Ever.

[@FlagCutie]

I tried a no buy year this year and only made it through September. That being said, I learned a few things. A big one being how easily it is to default to "retail therapy" thinking "oh this isn't bad! I could be doing drugs." lol. Another thing I learned was how a lot of times, that peer pressure to "buy the latest fashions" is rooted in not really having a personal style. I didn't wear low rise jeans in my teens because my mom saw them as tacky. Now that I am older and chubby, I prefer high waisted jeans because the look better with my belly and I don't have to worry about flashing people. So now that the fashion of my youth is making a comeback, I don't feel pressured to throw out my perfectly good jeans in order to get a new style lol.

[@ampersignia]

I wonder if it’s from the isle of skye! I was there about 2 months ago and there are lots of souvenir stores with knitted and wool things because there are endless sheep everywhere.

[@Annaleebie]

Unfortunately, it's getting harder to find good thrifted clothing because of people taking all the good stuff just to resell it for higher prices on websites like Depop. Thrift scalpers belong in Hell for snatching clothing from poor people to make money lol

[@timelapse11]

During a holiday to Scotland, I bought a hat that was made by a 70 year old who spins and dyes the wool himself, I just know I'll be wearing it for many, many years to come.

[@whitalleys5893]

Another awful part is the huge amount of SHEIN stuff ends up in the thrift store too. So the thrift stores are slowly turning into SHEIN resale and it’s so so badly made.

[@StopThatSquirrel]

And then try to resell it for more than the original cost!!

[@91Vault]

and anything half decent quality gets snapped up to be sold at a rediculous markup as “vintage”

[@User-hg1jk]

@@91Vault don’t get me started on the amount of clothing I’ve seen on Depop that’s marketed as ‘vintage’ just to find out it’s Shein with the labels cut out

[@alrightyru]

Some woman was moving and throwing away clothes so I got some bags. Plato's Closet bought 26 sweater pieces from me for $100 ..that under $4/ sweater by Zara, Banana, etc ... She paid $30-40 a piece and literally Threw Them Away! I was glad to make something off it cuz it was not going to sell online ...

[@Moonlight_Shad0w]

The problem is, whenever you confront people on TikTok, they'll tell you "but I'm broke I need clothes!". They are way too deep into that whole "I need new clothes every month to pretend I'm trendy". You don't need that many new clothes, your worth does not depend on trends...

[@gg_ingy]

Many teenagers are still not mentally developed enough to think about "far away issues" over themselves. Teenagers ( GENERALLY SPEAKING) are the most selfish age group (And i assume the people on tik tok are teens).

[@hesterwright3674]

Problem is that when you can't afford to buy quality clothes that last then you're gonna have to replace them more often. Even expensive clothes are actually trash these days, poorly made from cheap fabrics. But still. People buy way too many clothes because of fashion.

[@inkubator320]

@@gg_ingy or you just hate teenagers? I'm a teenager and I'm not selfish, I try my best to buy from sustainable brands but let me tell you, those brands are expensive and not everyone can afford that. But I'm trying and I feel like everyone else should try too

[@PikaJess123]

They should try secondhand clothing

[@agostinaalegre7734]

@@inkubator320 I don't think she hates teenagers, for what I understood reading her comment, she was defending them. Not because you are not selfish it means that some aren't. Teens are finishing being kids, and kids usually are selfish. Our brain aproximatelly develops its fullest at 25 years! Not every behaviour is justifiable as a teen, but there are some times you can't always expect them to be reasonable. That is why in most countries there are laws that protect them (because they are not mature enough to do it by themselves) or attenuate their actions in case they do something bad. And trust me, buying fast fashion is really far from bad.

[@KeilaBevins]

Getting paid per item of clothing rather than per hour explains both the quickness and poor quality of shein clothing. Oh yeah, it’s all coming together.

[@myrineae]

MANY companies use this per piece method. Anything you can buy, really.

[@RecyclingMama]

this is common practice in the garmento industry, many of the women in my family have worked this way back in the los angeles of the 80's and 90's before the industry moved to china.

[@heliosfromacrossastar878]

I appreciate that emperor Kuzco reference 🥰

[@joyful_tanya]

Or coming apart at the seams, lol.

[@KeilaBevins]

@@heliosfromacrossastar878 I just had to, for meme mum That, and the kronk movies are ICONIC

[@andrealucretia]

I've been sewing for nearly 20 years and it took me 16 hours to finish a simple sleeveless linen top. Granted, I put a lot of care into it making sure it would serve me hopefully for many years, but it absolutely blows my mind that these poor factory workers are making hundreds of garments a day.

[@jahbern]

This entire industry makes it difficult for many seamstresses/tailors to maintain a business. I have a friend who sews children’s clothing - but they cost significantly more than store bought. They are hand made by someone paying attention to finishing seams, pattern placement, exact proportions (so every item of size X fits identically, vs store sizing, which is so ridiculous). I never once considered selling the things I sew or crochet because I’m not interested in trying to sell a cardigan for $200 or $400. People do it, for sure, but it’s just sooooo much work. I’d rather give stuff away and not feel like I was cheated because it was a gift. It goes to show the true passion some people have.

[@grapeyard1778]

I wanted to try making my own clothes instead of buying them and boy did I underestimate the money and time that went into it. Even just the materials cost just as much or even more than a fast fashion item. Would definitely try it again though, once I have the time

[@Nylak-Otter]

I think it's a combination of quality and experience. I'm an animal behaviorist, and I can take almost any dog between 9 months and 4 years and train them sufficiently to successfully compete in basic AKC obedience in a week and earn their CGC in two weeks. But I do it all day, every day, and their obedience isn't going to be bomb-proof in every situation, and some will just not learn ANYTHING and be a total washout. On the other hand, if I take a 9-month old and train it for two years in my own home, it's going to be ready to go to war, and its logical comprehension, reliability and versatility is going to put a lot of humans to shame. And yeah, at that point I want to sell my canine masterpiece about as much as you'd want to sell your fine clothing that you poured your skill and heart into. Same concept with almost every industry.

[@xanpenguin754]

There’s a reason seamstresses in England in the 1800s started burning down textile factories.

[@lestranged]

They use an assembly line system, they don't have one person make the whole garment from start to finish. Lets take a typical t-shirt: Assembly line means one person cuts it out, then another person sews the shoulder seams, then another person sews the neckband, another person sews the sleeves on, another person sews the side seams, etc. So the neckband person is sewing the neckbands on hundreds of shirts a day, not sewing hundreds of complete garments.

[@tommyluke5952]

“Shein and Tiktok are just match made in hell” Yes yes yes

[@musearrives2am]

Thanks for calling companies out on this. I worked for a fast fashion chain pre-Covid for 3 years but was forced to quit when 2 years in I started having trouble breathing and my skin reacting to touching the shoes we sold. After a year it had spread to every store department to the point where everything I touched caused me to break out in hives and I even had to use an inhaler to get through my last two weeks. Turns out many oversea clothing companies coats their clothes in formaldehyde to ward off moisture and bugs and give it that nice pressed look on shelves and I had developed an allergy to it after it had coated my lungs. It two years to even start to breath well enough to do the physical activities I used to, and to this day going into those stores make me physically sick afterwards. These practices are dangerous to workers and consumers alike and I hope we can talk about it more.

[@zerotodona1495]

Guess what… that’s not new. It’s why you’re suppose to wash all your clothing after buying even from a Walmart.

[@jloo0409]

oh no... 😨 so sorry to hear that it even affects people retailing these clothes as well can't imagine what it's like for the factory workers 😢

[@HelfyreTwilight]

My deepest sympathies for your health issues and I’m glad you’ve found even a small amount of recovery.

[@petrichorbones]

"on demand" is supposed to be sustainable if it is handmade by someone who is paid a living wage for their work and also it is supposed to take longer. you can't have 2 day shipping AND on demand without something being horrifically wrong they use buzzwords and manipulation tactics like those ads to prevent people from thinking bc once you do its obvious also the amount of art theft that happens is seriously a problem. not just from shein but from so many fast fashion brands. its exhausting and im not even an artist whose art is being stolen

[@electrogeek77]

There is a small clothing brand who I have bought from who works like this. It takes a little longer, I like their stuff.

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

Not just Shein and fast fashion, it's a Chinese (country, not race) mainstay. The CCP actively encourages IP theft and is partial owner in all Chinese companies.

[@laurenconrad1799]

I don't see how a $1 shirt is cheap if you can only wear it once before it falls apart. That would mean you're spending $365 on a year's worth of shirts, which you could also do by buying 9 $40 shirts from a decent brand and wearing all of them all year long.

[@mystic_mimi21]

It’s about having a Different shirt for everyday. Having as many items as possible and keeping up to date and on “trend”. Micro trends fuel capitalism

[@veryberry39]

There's an oft-used book quote that explains this scenario (though in a less extreme situation). I don't remember verbatim, but the gist is that when you're poor, you can only afford the $10 boots that wear out faster. Yeah, the more expensive ones last longer, but if you don't have that kind of money at one time, it's a moot point. Granted, I'd never buy fast fashion, but I also never buy my shirts if they're over $10. (Fortunately, thanks to my sensory issues, I only wear T-shirts. I *do* spend more on the occasional dressy item.)

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

Bruh, can't be caught on the 'gram wearing the same thing twice - I dunno, Gen Z or some shit.

[@starsun6363]

But it *feels* cheap and good in the moment.

[@Renesmechen]

That quote is by Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms: The Play I think it's always a lovely read even if you already know it because it's just so true. " The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles. But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet. This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness."

[@floopyboo]

I made a patchwork quilt out of the shein things I didn't want any more, because I couldn't handle the thought of just throwing it all away. It took forever, but it is the favourite thing of everyone who sees it.

[@AliciaGuitar]

I bet it was a pain making sure the flimsy fabric doesnt fray and fall apart!

[@nonprofitgirl]

Excellent work floopyboo! Make some more quilts…hey, can I have one?? Not from Shein crap but from my old clothes. They’re dear.

[@goldensloth7]

i'm dying to see it honestly

[@yasmeeneleanor3153]

i've been sewing since the age of 4 (my grandmother and her mother were both single mothers and they worked as seamstresses to support their children, so when i was a child my great-grandmother taught me to make clothes as this was, to her, the most important skill to learn). the fastest i have ever made a whole garment was around 2 hours, and it was the most basic skirt ever with a simple elastic waist. i didn't even hem it because i was using the edge of the fabric and i just use the skirt for prayer clothes at home. if i had hemmed it it would've taken at least 3 hours. i used to do sewing commissions to earn some money when i was a teenager but i have stopped doing that now because the amount of hours i spent on each commission was so high that i was earning basically nothing, maybe 50 pence per hour which i'm sure is far below minimum wage in any country. it just took me so long ! so i have no idea how anybody can make 10 pieces of clothing a day, let alone over 100 in one morning. they must be working so hard, so fast, with no breaks, and probably in a lot of pain from repetitive strain injury. this horrifies me to my core.

[@kathyryder828]

The workers won't be making entire garments. They'll each do one part. So one person will do all the hems, one person will do the side seams, etc. It's still a huge amount to make in one day though. I don't sew often and the quickest I could make a simple skirt, including cutting out the fabric and hemming, would be about 2 hours. Doing 100 hems would probably take me at least 24 hours with no breaks!

[@graceface418]

As a Crocheter, I know people who have had their designs stolen by Shein and it is infuriating! The levels of awful going on with that company are so wrong

[@wishingonthemoon1]

I was about to comment, doesn’t Schein steal designs?

[@LilacMoons]

As a fellow crocheter, what makes the stolen crochet pieces even worse is that crochet, unlike knitting, can’t be done by machine, so all these pieces require very time intensive labour for basically even less payment than a sewn garment. Yes they may work in assembly line style but even a single granny square takes a lot of time.

[@Casinogirl56]

@@LilacMoons exactly. I crochet using thread, and some designs take me 2 weeks to complete. A small one, 10" or so, still takes an entire day. And doing the same thing, at top speed, day after day, has to be absolutely mind numbing.

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

This isn't just a Shein thing, it's a China thing. There's no recourse for IP theft and the CCP actively encourages it at all levels, from online art all the way up to military technology, digital products and innovations, and scientific research. It's mad that the world is so desperate for cheap resources and products that we haven't placed embargos against China and ended scientific partnerships and educational institution partnership programs.

[@Meep295]

@@LilacMoons most clothes labeled crochet on fast fashion sites aren’t actually crochet and just knit but in a stitch that looks like crochet

[@evelyneca7454]

I'm 30 years old and I remember being a wee kiddie in school, not even yet a preteen and my teacher telling us about kids and women forced to work as modern slaves to help feed their family, working in sweatshops making T-Shirts and sportshoes. Nothing has changed. It's so incredibly frustrating. We NEED transparancy, in the fashion industry and globally we need better protection and higher standards for workers.

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

We need to reign in international 'free' trade, then, and outright ban doing business with certain countries like 'communist' China. (They are actually also full on a fascist dictatorship at this point.)

[@cozumel5608]

I've been doing at school the industrial revolution and so, the explotation of workers at that time and the fight for rights. It's so appalling how things haven't changed, just the beneficiary class is larger and exploited people are far from our sight. Alfieri, an illuminist thinker, said that modern men, his 1700s contemporaries, are stupid since they believe they are different and better than ancient men, who at least weren't hypocrites and called things for their names, such as slavery, which according to him still existed till his age, but people didn't recognize it. It was ridiculous in the 1700s, it's more in the 2000s, especially because people contributes to world's damage just for silly clothes.

[@annnee6818]

Let's face it, half of the people buying from shein know it's bad and just don't care. Humans largely don't concern themselves with empathy for strangers and never will, that's why nothing ever gets solved.

[@mallowemery8196]

@@annnee6818 maybe they do care but can't afford other things

[@tiahnarodriguez3809]

@@mallowemery8196 There are cheaper options than Shein, however, for some consumers you’re right, but op is mostly right because the majority of consumers don’t dare where or how their products are made, so long as, they can get them. Its the same reason why people shop at Walmart and Amazon, buy Nike’s, or go to Disney Land, etc. despite it being known that these companies do shady things.

[@silverspoon386]

i’m southeast asian and even the cheapest shein clothes still quite expensive for me so i’ve never buy one. i rarely buy new clothes, when i do i bought them from thrifted and will only buy one if it’s around $3 or under $6 (though in my country, thrifting has become sooo well known that sellers can charge for more than $10 for a single used clothes). all those fast fashion brand such as h&m, zara, forever21 and uniqlo to me is an expensive brand. i only have 1 or 2 clothes with that brand and i treasure them so much and i use it for special occasions. this is so sad that those are actually cheap clothes and they throw away hundred clothes meanwhile in another side of world, there’s someone who actually treasure the brand with thoughts it’s an expensive brand.

[@FOLIPE]

Westerners have a completely distorted lifestyle due to an unbalance in purchase power due to the market monopoly that their countries have. We live normal lifes, not them. They are destroying the world

[@micca903]

@@mydreamsarecomingtrue It depends on where you live though. I live in the west and people don’t realize the value of clothing so I can go to some second hand place and get luxury stuff for almost nothing. The OP probably lives in a country where people don’t have access to all of that.

[@AliFinNoble]

The worst part is I keep finding Sheehan‘s stuff in the thrift stores priced twice as much as it is on the website!

[@lestranged]

Just to clarify something for the "sewing hundreds of garments a day". They use an assembly line system, they don't have one person make the whole garment from start to finish. Lets take a typical t-shirt: Assembly line means one person cuts it out, then another person sews the shoulder seams, then another person sews the neckband, another person sews the sleeves on, another person sews the side seams, etc. So the neckband person is sewing the neckbands on hundreds of shirts a day, not sewing hundreds of complete shirts. Often you need specialty sewing machines for specific steps, like a coverstitch machine for the hems on a T-shirt. A serger for the side seams, etc. Each machine station is set up with the correct stitch and thread for just the little portion of the shirt they will be making. They never have to switch between different thread, stitch length, etc.

[@DoveAlexa]

Quality information! It's much clearer now.

[@chuggingigibytes3663]

Not to mention those industrial sewing machines are lightning fast. I worked in a factory a decade ago and the machines I had to work on were so fast I could barely keep up. The little machines underneath that powered the sewing machines said "30 mph" when running but that gives an idea of how insanely fast they are. The company made banners and people could whip out a 2x2m/6x6ft banner in like 3 minutes.

[@scarlettteacup1676]

This is true for many factories but I do know that some factories have you making the whole garment from start to finish.

[@fighterflight]

Ok but does that change anything? Not really.

[@lestranged]

@@fighterflight it was for the people who sew and can't figure out how one person can sew hundreds of garments a day

[@MsFitz134]

"is vanity going to end the world?" A strong statement. And not a far fetched one either. Let's make the new trend mended, thrifted, handmade, quality natural fibers.

[@fulana_de_tal]

Here in Brazil, we could obviously link the popularity of Shein to it's affordability to the averege person. Most people here can't actually afford to buy highter quality clothes just to look cute, and they're left with fast fashion brands if they want clothes they like and can afford. Between Shein and Zara, Renner, Riachuelo, C&A, etc, Shein is obviously the cheapest one, and the quality doesn't vary a lot from these other brands, that are increasily lowering their own quality. I have a Zara dress that has been worn at most 5 times between me and my sister, and it's already coming appart on some points, which is ridiculous because it cost almost R$300 (around US$60, that is nowhere from cheap around here), and a Shein dress that I've worn just twice (i've had it for a few months, but it's a summer dress and spring had started just now), and while i know it is the same quality as the Zara dress, if not worse, it cost me only R$90 (around US$18). I won't buy from Shein again because i actually have the privelege to afford buying from higher quality brands, but to most people the options comw down to fast fashion brand or cheaper fast fashion brand, and i can't really shame a person who's living on R$1200 (around US$240) a month for buying clothes from a brand that they can afford and look cute (note how my Zara dress was 1/6 of the minimum wage here). Of course Shein knows all about that and Brazil is one of the countries that has free shipping and free return options, because they want to explore the most out of this extremely big market they have here. We can't really talk about councious consumption without talking about inequality, of course it is vain for someone to buy clothes just to look good, but i know that most people who actually buy regularly from Shein are making the most out of those products bacause they can't afford to buy more. For them, it's not a choice between a 2 dollar shirt that can wear for a week and a 40 dollar shirt that they can wear for a year, bacuse they will make the 2 dollar shirt last for 2 years when it's all they can afford.

[@prettyfirefly1011]

I'm also from Brazil but I'll just comment in English so other people can understand. I feel that most brazilians that buy from Shein also don't buy as frequently as people from other countries. I have 2 dresses I bought from Shein and I've had them for 2 years now. And a bikini because SheIn actually has a bigger size variety. So yeah completely agree with you. And my salary is somewhat the same you mentioned hahaha.

[@useronline669]

Thank you for pointing this out. Sometimes I feel that people from the US don’t understand or ignore the financial struggles that people from 3rd world countries have to go through. I am from Dominican Republic and a lot of people buy either at thrift stores or Shein. I am not able to afford a 50 dollar shirt or a 100 dollar pair of jeans. That is crazy expensive for me. And also, people here can wear their clothing for YEARS and take good care of their pieces no matter how cheap it is. I do have pieces from Shein that still look like new despite how much I have wearing them and even though I don’t excuse their practices, is the only option I have along with go thrifting.

[@StephdeIcaza]

Very well said. I am from Mexico and it is the same for the vast majority of Shein shoppers there.

[@ruthfolorunso8715]

I think this video should only apply to western consumers who have so many more options for ethical clothing, but not only choose to shop fast fashion, but shop fast fashion in huge quantities, like £1000 hauls. And ofc the influencers who can 100% afford better options but choose instead to promote fast fashion. People in the global south are factually not mass buying these clothes and contributing to the waste, especially since they also make up the exploited workers in these factories making these clothes as well.

[@taliapp5106]

Agree, lot of friends bought at Shein or any other fast fashion brand but few quantity and they make the clothes to make durable for years. I usually buy in the flee market but appart of not always finding stuff for your size, the second-hand shops are being burgeouised by being "the last trend" and everyday is harder to find an used cloth cheap, so lot of us just buy from fast fashion brands. I think great part of Shein's incomes are from poor people from third world that can't buy anything. Thanks god I have a great eye for cheap clothing in the flee market

[@WearItMilano]

I’m from Italy and am a personal stylist… i often talk about fast fashion to my clients as it looks like so many of the ppl don’t even know what’s happening behind the scenes. You got the point so much with this video, I hope it’s gonna get to more and more people! Ggreat job!! 🙏

[@skullslace2426]

I have made the experience that with apps and brands such as shein, wish, and increasingly amazon, the vendors will write 100% cotton in their descriptions of the items, and when you receive them, the tag says 100%polyester and the garment looks and feels like it. One of the 1000 reasons I no longer buy from them. Then there's the issue of slave and child labour, sustainability, quality, art theft etc. Etc.

[@laurenconrad1799]

Bernadette Banner once burned the fabric on a fast fashion dress that was a knock off of a garment she made. Cotton fabric is supposed to turn to ash when exposed to flame and this “cotton fabric” did a tiny bit, but not enough. It contained a lot of polyester, it seemed.

[@skullslace2426]

@@laurenconrad1799 I know, I watched that video too. I even contacted a vendor about that situation. (description: 100% cotton, tag: polyester, reply : it's a blend) It's just another one of their scummy methods. Personally, as I get older, develop more and more sensitivity towards synthetic fibres, and tend to get rashes from some of them. It's just really annoying to not even be able to trust the descriptions provided by the sellers. But, of course, that pales in comparison to the situation of the workers and the artists that have their work stolen and not even credited.

[@meri8431]

love how you put your concerns about polyester clothing before child labour

[@skullslace2426]

@@meri8431 of course child labour is a much more serious concern. AFAIK, it is one that is often talked about, followed by art theft. I merely thought I would add to the ever growing list of complaints about that company. The then there is was meant to be sarcastic, as these are obviously the main concerns. I know sarcasm doesn't always translate well, but I thought it would be obvious that said issues were much more important.

[@j.stanley1669]

@@meri8431 They just typed up their experience first because it was more personal.

[@johannageisel5390]

Last night, somebody stole underwear from my clothesline. Old panties, a bustier and an undershirt or t-shirt. Possibly a homeless person who needed fresh underwear. I'm not angry about the panties and shirt, but the bustier was the only one I had where the back hadn't dissolved yet and I am going to another city tomorrow. I needed that bustier. I first wanted to go to H&M in that other city tomorrow, but their stuff is all polyester and I don't want to buy artificial fibers anymore if I can avoid it. Long story short: I spent 100€ on new underwear from a fair-trade, eco-friendly internet shop. Two bustiers, two undershirt, three panties. Nothing fancy, just basic black or white cotton stuff. That's how expensive clothing actually is if you try not to exploit humans and nature.

[@neconeconeco]

please be careful. honestly, it's more likely it was a man with bad intentions that stole your bustier and panties. please be cautious and keep your doors locked, maybe speak to your female neighbours to see if their private items were also stolen..... it can be a sign of someone who might escalate..

[@m0L3ify]

Good underwear is expensive, but it's worth it

[@nekochadechu]

Im scared of how the worth of clothes and the work put into making them is getting less and less valued by people because of brands like Shein it's definitely hurting small brands, but there will always be people who won't let themselves be swayed by cheap badly made clothes and continue supporting more ethical brands

[@GraveyardMaiden]

Johanna, it was probably a creepy pervert, and not a homeless person. Please install cameras for your yard and for the love of God make a police report in case this escalates

[@divona1818]

Here in Israel localy made clothes by designers are so overpriced that people are not willing to pay and it is a dying industry, thrift stores mostly not worthwhile here and the 'vintage' ones also very high prices, also the fabric stores are dying here, it is hard to find good fabrics at fair prices, climate here very humid so wearing all the synthetic crap from China is impossible if you are over 30...i think i will return to make my own clothes, i am resisting because so many cheap beatiful garments from India at the markets-100% cotton with poison dyes...

[@saywhatnow5507]

i started sewing a year and a half ago, and it definitely made me appreciate the work that goes into clothes and made me understand why good clothing is "expensive". seeing people complain about the low quality and the mistakes they find in SHEIN clothing almost infuriates me. Seeing how these workers are treated i couldn't even think of criticising them. I've seen people joke about it online and it's just so disappointing how they just don't care.

[@notlurking2128]

I would like to add, second hand shopping IS NOT accessible for everyone, nor is making your own clothes. As a plus sized person, even though I'm just on the cusp of mid sized it is extremely difficult to find good quality second hand clothes where I live, and a disabled person (who does know how to sew and has the ability), I've had to come to terms with buying mass market products because I simply do not have the energy to make clothes when I spend it all working and then doing the basic life stuff like cooking, cleaning and socialising.

[@swamp6825]

Imo you’re not the problem! It’s the people that are buying hundreds of pieces of clothing just to throw them all out the second trends change slightly that are the issue

[@rachelkrislov]

^^this

[@nononattono]

I think this can help us recognize the real issue at the root of everything. The problem isn’t you (AT ALL!), it’s the fact that our options as consumers are heavily restricted by these billion dollar forces. The fact that the majority of people, at least in my country, can only afford or have reasonable access to fast fashion is the real issue. We ALL deserve clothing options that LAST. Clothing options that FIT. Clothing options that do not go out of style within a few months. Clothing options that we can afford that are made out of material that lasts and can be mended once age starts to show. Even in second hand stores, most of our options on the shelves are, well, used fast fashion items. The real issue are fast fashion corporations and the culture of over-consumption spurred on by their advertising and by capitalist standards for more more more.

[@rakiyeaah]

Since I started sewing I understand how much work there is behind a single garment. I cannot imagine how exhausted these workers are after an entire day sewing in these terrible conditions.

[@julietfischer5056]

And they're working like an assembly line, with one doing collars, one attaching sleeves, one sewing on pockets, and so on.

[@julyetelmao]

My mom sews a lot! She's been sewing for almost 10 years. And yeah, I notice that making pieces, even ones that are supposed to be "easy" or "simple" can be complicated, take time, and you can make mistakes in them. So imagine making a mistake in those garment factories. Crazy.

[@evelyneca7454]

It's not just Shein. It's the whole fast fashion industry. Stuff like this is the norm. Maybe not 500 pieces a day per worker but bad working conditions, unsafe work spaces, 50-70 + hours, terrible pay, sexual abuse in the workplace ect. It's every fast fashion brand. Every single one of them. Mango, Zara, Urban Outfitters, Fashion Nova ect ALL of them do this. It is the terrible sad reality of the fashion industry.

[@RhiannonAgutter]

I think one of the reasons people turn to fast fashion is because second hand stores are now so over priced. I’ve been in thrift stores recently where a basic tshirt in not great condition is $7-$10. Lots of people can’t afford that. The other draw to shein is inclusive sizes. It is one of the few places plus sized folks can buy fashionable clothes, for any price. Shein sucks, but so does the rest of the fashion industry

[@annnee6818]

Whataboutism, but yes. Also people don't care, they know shein is bad, but their next insta upload matters more than human rights violations halfway round the globe

[@aliceschwarzer7425]

@@annnee6818 they are right tho.. what do I care what is happening in johnson‘s backyard when I haven‘t figured out my own.

[@cryystall]

thrift shops in my area are kinda expensive for goodwill, $13 for a sweater and $10 for jeans and it’s shocking when i see people thrift pants for $3-$5, had no clue how they got it for so cheap

[@arandootsarandano]

@@aliceschwarzer7425 do you know, what basic human decency, rights and empathy are? If not, I present them to you

[@RichardWhite50033]

@@aliceschwarzer7425 You care so much about that stupid instagram like, though. You can care enough not to buy their garbage clothes.

[@josefinarivia]

i buy a lot of clothes at secondhands and its starting to become like 30% or more of just shein clothes. people keep buying stuff, noticing it's made cheaply and then just giving it away :(

[@ezekielsmith3571]

shein gets all their art designs by stealing from artists. they use bots that get triggered when someone comments on an artist's post "this would look great on a t-shirt" or something similar. you can actually fight it by commenting stuff like that under copyrighted material that belongs to huge corporations like disney. which would actually push back with their legal team when shein steals their art for a shirt or whatever.

[@charlespentrose7834]

@@chrisstoltz3648 I like the way you think.

[@alexander_yoko]

As an artist, Shien should frick off. (KZbin kids is too toddler friendly (hypocrite) and didn't let me comment what I wanted). You got what I wanted to say.

[@zakazany1945]

That AND also some really bizarre artwork that no one on their right mind would wear without facing some criminal charges similar to walking naked in public

[@lucie4185]

@@alexander_yoko there is a Shein advert under this video for me. 🤢🤢🤢

[@alexander_yoko]

@@lucie4185 shit

[@m0L3ify]

As someone who can wear the same clothes for a decade until they're literally falling apart at the seams, I'll never understand fast fashion. I long for the days gone by when you could basically wear the same dress your whole life and it was fine. When fashion did change a bit over time, but not really all that much. Fast fashion is so stressful to me, save for the moments when my favorites come back in style decades later and I'm suddenly 'cool' again. 😂

[@zahisunohr]

Same here 😅 I’ll wear my clothes until they basically disintegrate or are repaired that often that they is can‘t hold any new seam

[@erikamay1205]

I still wear a shirt of my mom's from the 70s. Looks great, colors are still vibrant. She tried to get it back from me and I was like, "heck no! It's one of my favorite shirts!" Man. 50 years old and back in fashion!

[@audramcdonaldapologist3676]

I mean plus sized people exist though fast fashion has more of a size range and a lot of thrift stores, vintage clothing doesn’t

[@m0L3ify]

@@audramcdonaldapologist3676 This sums up my love/hate relationship with Torrid. They sell cute clothes I can actually wear, but their shirts only last a few months before completely shredding because they've worn so thin in the wash. A lot of the stuff they sell is fast fashion junk. Their jeans and bras are fantastic tho! Part of my desire to wear the same thing for ages is because of my autism. The rest is because I don't have many options.

[@alexander_yoko]

Lol, my best friend said I dress up like in 2009... I mean, maybe, I buy a lot from Second Hands...

[@danielrenos1647]

How ironic that Shein offered me an ad of their new design at the end of this video.

[@caramelatte5477]

I hate the fact that SHEIN scandals keep appearing and the company keeps getting exposed for horrible practices and people just still buy there in bulk. Many half-influencers in my country or even my own friends buy multiples items to make hauls and stuff. My perception of fashion has changed a lot in 5 years: I used to be an awkward teen and just bought whatever. Cheao tshirts from cheap fast fashion stores. I didnt want to make my parents suffer to buy me multiples garments at a time. Now, I'm still not wealthy enough to just buy dozens of pieces bc I like them, so I buy very limited items and really think about each of them before committing. Since I have less garments, I can't switch them around as often, so I try to buy them on a minimum decent quality bc I'll have to wear them a lot. I understand teen (or even adult) girls wanting to have lots of garments to increase their options when they put up an outfit, and because trends are constantly changing (for most people, what you wear at 14 is different from what you'll wear at 20). But I'll NEVER understand how they accept wasting their money on CRAP clothes. Because thats what shein products are. Poor fabric, poor hems, poor fitting. The consumers might be okay once it arrives - "yeah its what I ordered! Luckily this one fits okay on me and the touch is kinda rough but thats get I get for paying 4$ for it lol!" and then go on to wear that item for maybe 1 month, but since they also bought 20 more items alongside that one, they just forget about it. And then 6 months later: "My closet is too full and I don't have anything to wear because all the items I bought looked just interesting on their own but are impossible to mix together to create outfits!" And the 20 items go to the trash, because who cares anyway, they weren't that good quality and cost that person 4$ each. I hate this so much!

[@gohdeza89]

These conditions are comparable to 1800's and early 1900's factories in America. The ones that are referenced in all of our civil rights studies in school as why there are regulations. I know we still have shops in the US that do these horrible things, but no matter where it is, it's never acceptable! Thank you for sharing this, Karolina. This is important.

[@kirstencallaway421]

I really hope it doesn't take a modern day triangle shirtwaist factory disaster to get people to care

[@Aurelian369_]

@@TheSlipperyNUwUdle the only reason why I even know about the Bangladesh factory fire is because it was on a high school AP exam I took

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

When stuff like that does happen in the states, there is legal recourse. They can be shut down once someone comes forward or someone sees something suspicious and has the wherewithal to report it. That's what it really comes down to. Usually when stuff like that does happen in America it's because a business is exploiting illegal immigrants or a work visa scheme, so they try to keep the non-English speaking workers very isolated from anyone who can speak their language and very ignorant of their rights in our country. That's why they can crop up and remain hidden for awhile.

[@ANPC-pi9vu]

@@TheSlipperyNUwUdle This is true. It's horrible, but everyone has a hierarchy of priority that places our immediate environment at the highest level and the farther away something happens, the lower it's order of priority will be unless it is in an area of hyper focus. A person can also only afford to sustain hyper focus on something if it ether doesn't inhibit one's own well being or actively aids one's own well being. This isn't something we knowingly do usually, it's just our subconscious way of navigating the world for our own survival. This has become a problem in our modern world of fast paced international trade and technological advancement. Any one individual can not hope to keep up with everything, and yet we all effect each other across the whole planet without even intending to in ways that are unprecedented in human history.

[@dallymoo7816]

Locally a children's jacket from there had dangerous amounts of lead and chemicals on it too. Pray for those working there and those buying it! 😦

[@anonview]

I'm from the Philippines, and most of the stuff we see being sold downtown come from China. There are some things made with great care and quality, but some others obviously look like they won't last a day. Edit: I can't believe some people think Shein isn't a sweat shop. One look at the app/site, and you can clearly tell that it's not as environment or industry-friendly as it claims to be.

[@lauratoton4457]

This is why I exclusively shop in charity shops, all of my favourite clothes are from charity shops, it takes a while to find a hidden gem but it's so worth it in the end.

[@laurenconrad1799]

It's interesting what you said about being "emotionally attached to a brand." As a plus-size woman, I have been feeling a lot of emotions over specific brands that give enough of a shit to sell clothes in my size. I'm mourning the loss of the ability to buy much from ModCloth but I also found out that Anthropologie, which I shopped at as a teen with a smaller body, now sells plus size clothes. When some brands give a shit about you as a consumer and most other brands don't, it gives you an emotional response.

[@chubbydinosaur9148]

I always loved H&Ms mens section, earlier this year I went to sneak a peak and saw that they had everything I ever wanted.... in pastel colours 🥹 I can't afford anything else so I was close to tears, giggling like a little child, not giving a crap if someone could hear or see me.

[@PacheGayd]

I have huge emotional attachment to eShakti for making clothes that actually fit all shapes and sizes. I also spent more than I intended with Snag tights once I saw their website full of actually inclusive product photos. It's pretty sad that we plus size women have to get excited about any brand that acknowledges our existence, but I also love that some options are starting to exist.

[@laurenconrad1799]

@@PacheGayd THIS ++

[@Seeigh]

@@PacheGayd oh yaaa snag tights are fire

[@PacheGayd]

@@Seeigh oh, good! They haven't arrived, yet, but I have high hopes!

[@petrichorbones]

i've literally seen SHEIN pieces in resale shops for like 20-30$ and im just like theres no WAY the original price was that high ....

[@petrichorbones]

of course to be fair, shein pieces have probably been worn wayyyyy way less often than most other pieces in a thrift or resale shop but still. TWENTY DOLLARS for a shein piece lmao

[@eleonore59830]

tbh a lot of middle aged/old people don't know shein so they will price it up because it looks trendy and new

[@PointsofData]

@@eleonore59830 esp if there's no way to track down who made it or what it's even made of

[@rachelshaferly5524]

Fast fashion is disgusting in general with its lack of ethics and Shein just takes it to a new level. As a plus size woman it's hard to find clothes I like in sizes I like at prices I can afford and most of the time my clothes shrink or I bloat and they are no longer flttering that's why I want to make my own clothes. I'm willing to pay more for something I can keep for a long time.

[@karolinakuc4783]

Spandex/lycra/elastane is super elastic as fibres can strech a lot. If you bought a piece of cloth that contains a lot of it like for e.g 20% it would always fit.

[@ProfessionalKonigSimp]

Tbh the most painful thing about shein to me, from a consumer standpoint, is they’re one of the only places that makes plus sized clothes that aren’t hideous and are actually affordable. Thrift stores are so hit or miss with what’s available and living paycheck to paycheck and being an atypical size, I hate that when I need new clothes (old ones worn out etc) I’m having to go to sites like this.

[@finezyjnafantazja2495]

But I heard these have lead in their dyes. It would be no surprise since they accept no refunds

[@aprilcook1856]

The problem with retailers like Shein and others is that they tend to set the bar for what people are willing to pay - and let’s face it, most people are not wealthy to begin with. Where I live (in the United States), sewing is a hobby and fabric is expensive. Most people have no clue how to sew their own clothing, but someone desperately needs to start a revolution in that area. We cannot ensure that workers aren’t being mistreated and exploited if our own country refuses to employ its own people and be above board about their treatment and still manage to keep things affordable for common people. The bottom line is and always has been that change starts with us.

[@Hello-pp3hl]

Fabric is so expensive too and mostly comes from China as well. It seems like ethical and safe shopping is a privledge for the rich rather than a feasible option for the 99%

[@Marinlss]

yes! I sew my own clothes but it's much more expensive than if I buy it. I need to either draft a pattern or buy it (patterns are expensive as well), buy good quality fabric $$ (I always need at least 2,5-3meters), then I make a muslin, spent DAYS sewing it + getting the perfect fit. I definitely understand why ethical clothing is expensive and it's definitely out of my price range..

[@jessip8654]

The problem is people work so much that we don't really have time for such things like making and repairing our own clothes. After a long workweek the last thing I want to do is sit down and start stitching.

[@ateisate7270]

@@jessip8654 Making your own: sure, that shit is a ton of work, I'm in the process of learning and holy shit, hard. Repair though? Throw on a netflix show and just reattach that button, sew that hole shut. Yes it's work, but ironing my linen blouses is more work, properly sorting my clothes is more work, using the drying rack is more work. It's housework, noone wants to do it really, but it has to be done. I also don't want to do the dishes, so should I just buy paper plates? Repair is the same. Housework.

[@bisexualantigone]

@@jessip8654 Yeah pfff

[@user-xg8qj4nz2h]

The second hand clothing issue is becoming such a problem. Shein is now taking over charity shops at a ridiculous rate and being sold second hand for more then its sold new! Its becoming increasingly difficult to find 1. well made and 2. reasonably priced garments in second hand stores, which then drives more people to fast fashion in a toxic cycle.

[@pillbobaggins2766]

i remember years ago the op shops were overflowing with supre, anko, target, big w and noni b now i have to pick between shein, city chic and asos. everything looks like shit

[@zvsvrerer2732]

I'm so devastated, I can't influence my friends into not buying from them. My friends get secretive and rather stop talking about it, they even distance themselves from me a bit, knowing that this is a topic we don't agree upon, but I don't think they will stop buying clothes. In my culture cheapness is always the top priority, it is attractive even to those who manage to afford quality clothes. It's really sad. Since covid I'm not buying new clothes but no one cares, I suppose my friends need to convince themselves first in order to act differently.

[@jazy5939]

Perhaps recommend thrifting instead!!

[@jazy5939]

Quality clothes for cheap

[@satapon4129]

As someone who is very poor it's honestly really hard to see these clothes and not be able to buy them because of how/where they were made. I've bought a few secondhand Shein things from eBay and feel guilty. I truly don't understand how people can buy things knowing they're going to throw them away so easily. I'm into styles like lolita, gothic and cottagecore, all quite expensive things to get into and I've built my collection over many years (90% secondhand). The clothing on Shein can be quite cute but I'm trying to stay strong lol

[@yumimusaka800]

Let me help you stay strong 😄 The clothes looks cute in their model pictures but the actual item will be disappointing. I've been burnt before by "expectation vs reality" when it comes to buying clothes from China. I bought from eBay, not Shein, but still, same principle applies. Now I don't buy no matter how cute the picture looks. I know the reality will be something badly made out of crummy material (with a chance of getting toxic material).

[@satapon4129]

@@yumimusaka800 Yeah I know that, but I only buy things that have customer photos and they tend to look good honestly. But I won't buy them of course

[@ik1437]

You not buying from them doesn’t make a difference. If you buy what you need and you don’t just throw stuff away after one wear then go for it, you only have one life and no one will reward you for avoiding shein.

[@satapon4129]

@@ik1437 ? I don't want a reward I just don't want to give into a company that benefits from what is essentially slave labour. I only have one life, so why would I want to do that with it?

[@starvision4233]

You as a poor person are not the problem. You clearly make good use of your items and aren’t buying a ridiculous amount just to 😊wear once. You shouldn’t feel guilty if it’s all you can afford. You deserve new clothes if you need new clothes.

[@maya-gur695]

The first thing I think about when I read about fast fashion work conditions is the industrial revolution. Absolutely horrible.

[@bozenabart7291]

The condition aren’t bad, I would say they are average, Karolina is not professional seamstress,she works 30 times slower than factory workers, that’s why she obviously would not survive doing this job, typical opinion of amateur seamstress,slow seamstress.And the work conditions are better than in the half of the sewing places in London.

[@keropi193]

@@bozenabart7291 "The conditions aren't bad." They don't stay until 2am because they are rolling in money or they want to be there. They work ~75 hours a week for the same pay most folks there would get at 40 hrs/wk and she refers to how they don't have a job/contract but are paid per piece. Earned wages would be deducted if they take a day off.

[@bozenabart7291]

@@keropi193 What I am saying is that nobody is defending poor seamstresses that work in horrible working conditions in London for minimum wage that is not enough for covering basic expenses in London, why?, nobody wants to notice how exploited are people doing job for high fashion?

[@bozenabart7291]

@@keropi193 And I don’t like amateurs taking about my job,

[@VashdaCrash]

@@bozenabart7291 I think you're shifting the goalposts here. The problem is not why aren't we talking about the working conditions of seamstresses in London, the problem is the working conditions of seamstresses there, in that chinese company. We can talk about that too even if it is off-topic, though.

[@SarcasticShrubbery]

I started making some of my own clothing a few years ago because I couldn't find what I wanted in stores (plus I have a figure that the fashion industry doesn't seem to think exists) and over time I've stopped buying new stuff entirely apart from underwear. People will sometimes ask me what the point is, look at me like I'm nuts, but every time I hear about things like this it just confirms my choices even more. I'm sure fabric production is also not great for the planet but at least I'm using every last scrap of it and wearing my clothes until I can't anymore, and after that I still turn them into quilts or other things...

[@j.stanley1669]

I don't think the "Apocalypse" is coming necessarily but if things get drastic enough, you'll still be able to sew your own clothes and may already have enough threads/needles/closures/fabric in storage to get by for a few years. The people who think you're nuts are SOL if they're forced to rely on someone else to make their garments and no one is anymore or they gotta get hardcore about thrifting real fast. I approve of your outlook and that's awesome you can also transmogrify them into other useful things once they've given up the ghost!

[@gg_ingy]

Laat ze kijken. Ik ben jaloers op die skills!

[@adylaar6708]

And one day you will find a pattern to underwear you like and never have to buy again. Awesome!

[@SarcasticShrubbery]

@@adylaar6708 🤣 seriously I've been looking into making underwear but at the moment it's a bit daunting, I can get a 5-pack of something that fits just fine for a lot less effort than all that fiddly elastic!

[@hannahhh6898]

That's so cool! I want to be able to do that one day but I don't know where to start 😅

[@KaylaNoelle1]

Watching this while shaving the pills off of the pure cashmere sweater I thrifted today for $11.50 ... $11.50 friends. SHEIN could NEVER. 😤 Without the pilling it's in flawless condition too and it actually feels wonderful on my skin, will keep me warm, and DOESN'T OFFGAS DEADLY TOXINS LIKE PTHALATES AND LEAD!!!!

[@bisexualantigone]

Pilling sucks so badly, but comforting to know that even pure cashmere pills. I often feel upset and afraid that I look slovenly when my woolen/knit garments begin to pill, but apparently, wool and cashmere etc. just does that.

[@fairenough7984]

@@bisexualantigone Friction causes that. One of the reasons to hand wash, or wash on delicate and dont put fabrics that can pill in the dryer.

[@arandootsarandano]

And more importantly, doesn’t exploit people or destroys the planet

[@penelopew77]

I’ve gotten some nice stuff at secondhand stores. Not even just clothes. I’ve got a nice leather wallet that will probably last the rest of my life and cost $15.

[@misskelevra]

"Is vanity going to end the world?" That hit the nail on the head... Secondhand and sustainable local brands is the way forward 👉

[@m2917]

I think an element of the conversation that wasn't addressed is that Shein has a massive size range compared to even most other fast fashion brands. I wish I could buy more in thrift stores or even from higher end designers but they don't have my size or my proportions. I'm not even very fat, and I think beyond my size the options dwindle down to almost nothing. I tried over 1k worth of semi formal dresses to wear from Nordstrom for a wedding, and ended up wearing a Shein dress. I'm not happy about it, but it's what worked. Nowadays I've been sewing more and hope to essentially make clothing for events, but I don't think fat people should have to spend years learning to sew to have clothes that fit and aren't matronly. Again, I'm not excusing Shein's practices. I will continue to search for more ethical options. But both the economic and size range issues are reasons why people buy from there, even if they're not thrilled about it.

[@3lisem168]

There's no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism. I know a lot of sustainable brands have super limited options and/ or are prohibitively expensive, so I can't fault someone for having to buy from somewhere else

[@callmecharlie99]

This! I've tried to make peace with the fact that I can get Shein clothes at thredup rather than benefiting Shein itself. I'm still able to wear the clothes but not give my hard earned money to a company like Shein. I'm still repping the brand but something has to give.

[@jenniferwells2291]

Exactly. I'm plus sized and on a fixed income. I cannot pay the crazy prices that even "cheap" retailers charge. I wear my stuff for years and even decades no matter how cheap it is because I take care of my stuff

[@audryklein]

And thats okay, you don’t have as many options as you deserve, but you are trying and that’s what matters.

[@3lisem168]

@@Abigail-wp3yt I fully agree. It's an oversimplified blanket statement, but it gets the point across. Those of us who can buy ethically definitely should! Sometimes it's just incredibly hard to do so

[@davidmehling4310]

I've known people who purchased new clothes for Easter, Thanksgiving, and Christmas every year, plus a new outfit for every wedding and funeral they attended. As a mail carrier, I had customers whom I'd swear couldn't go a week without a clothing package arriving in the mail. Seems to me Shein caters to people who "must" constantly buy new clothing

[@hawktalon7890]

I bought exactly 1 new shirt and a sweater for the holidays a week ago and felt horrible about it because you arguably don't NEED different clothes for any given holiday [then again, most of my "fancy" shirts were falling apart]. I can't imagine what goes through the heads of these clothes hoarders.

[@bisexualantigone]

I do also buy new clothes for events more often but I stick to secondhand or good quality brands so I can rewear them for a long time. But yeah, you're right

[@EfeFlet]

I used to work in retail and there were clients who I saw EVERY WEEK buying something and i always wondered if they really needed it or actually used everything because it seemed super wild to me. I also think some of my clients were not in a good place mentally and shopping was some kind of coping mechanism...

[@CarrieV9]

I’ve had to buy some new clothing recently because I’ve gained some weight!

[@raerohan4241]

@@EfeFlet Yeah. It's called retail therapy. Not the best coping mechanism, but there are worse out there I suppose. I think a lot of society's problems could be solved if everyone saw an actual therapist, for a couple of months at the very least. It's sad that we're not at a place for that to be remotely feasible

[@TheWolfeDen]

My family and I have purchased fast fashion over the years many times. Cheap clothing is what we could afford, especially if we needed something "nice." But we hang onto stuff as long as we can and try to take as good of care of it as possible. I still have stuff from high school (I'm 29) and my grandma is wearing my mom's old shirts from nearly 20 years ago. I've been broke most of my life and the "keep it, fix it, cherish it" mentality is deeply ingrained. What I can't keep, I donate or give away. I got into thrifting as a teenager but trying to find stuff at thrift stores can be hit or miss, even though I have basic sewing skills. Definitely a complicated issue. That said, I haven't had to make a serious shopping trip in many years, equally due to meticulousness, frugality, practicality, and nostalgia.

[@cadencepoetica8356]

Unfortunately, as a bigger woman, who is also kinda poor, Shein is one of the extremely few options for fashionable and affordable clothing. Buying Shein let me get a whole new work wardrobe when I started a new job recently, or try a new aesthetic look without breaking the bank. I only buy pieces I know I'll keep and wear as long as possible, I've not thrown or given anything away so far. I hate their working conditions though, it's definitely corrupt and toxic as hell. Honestly it's not about the money, I'd happily pay more if I could find similar fashion choices in my size from a more ethical company, but the choice just isn't there. A lot of trendy clothing companies that say they have plus sizes only really go to a size 16 or 18. I know a lot of curvy girls who buy Shein for that reason. That's definitely something that needs to change as well.

[@franklinstephen3268]

Hi how are you doing?

[@zerotodona1495]

Lose weight and stop buying for fashion.

[@cadencepoetica8356]

@@zerotodona1495 wow... Thanks so much, I didn't realise it was so easy! Wonder why I didn't think of that in all my 30 years of being overweight? 🤔 And saying stop buying for fashion is just ridiculous, no one wants to wear ugly clothes. You just need to sit down now and be quiet.

[@elietahari7290]

@@cadencepoetica8356 Genuinely curious, what did you were BEFORE shein?

[@cadencepoetica8356]

@@elietahari7290 whatever Kmart and Target had in their plus size section, which isn't great and never as fashionable as their "normal" sizes. And usually not nice enough for office wear. With the "buy now pay later" type schemes like Afterpay, I've been able to get some nice pieces from higher end stores, but the prices are ridiculous. I can't justify paying $50 for one top for work when I can go on Shein and buy 5 for that price. Plus size blazers and dresses are as much as $100 or more here in Australia. I think my winter coat cost me $200 from a store called City Chic. One thing I've learned as a BBW is a lot more people judge you on how you look than you think, unfortunately. Shein and businesses like that at least put us bigger ladies on a little more even footing than smaller women who can shop cheaply and walk into almost any store and find something that fits. I definitely don't agree with their ethics, and when I have the money I try to shop more ethically, but when money is tight (like when I'm between jobs) Shein has to do. :-/

[@mystic_mimi21]

I remember when I was 13/14 I wanted a new school bag and those braided bracelets with charms on it and was going to shop WISH/ SHEIN etc were sooooo shady. Like no one would buy from them. They had very poor English for their description which was very sus. I’m 21 now and it’s so odd that it’s being used like ASOS, primark, Zara etc

[@somesweetdreamm]

I remember that too! Lol

[@agimagi2158]

Oooh yess those super shady whish ads that everyone told you were actually phishing links (even though they probably weren't)

[@rationalcynic8416]

Right! When I was in high school 5 years ago, no one trusted Shein or Wish enough to actually shop from there legitimately. Now everyone seems to be shopping from there. Like I'd rather wear a trash bag than wear anything from those stores. I'm sure a trash bag is less flammable.

[@wishingonthemoon1]

That’s what I thought! Millennial here, and when I was in high school eeeeveryone knew not to buy from Schein-and no one did. So how did they stay afloat? It’s weird. And sad.

[@waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa9739]

Yup my first experience with Shein/Romwe was in 2012 or 2013 as far as I remember, I was in high school and I was really afraid of ordering from there but a lot of KZbin celebs were recommending it, so I did and they somehow ended up losing one of the hoodies I ordered despite all of the stuff being in the same package. I contacted them many times but they were adamant that I've recieved everything and never refunded me. Never ordered from them ever since and now that I see all of my friends loving shopping there, it's so weird because I had such a bad experience with them and now their clothes also seem to be 200% more poorly made than back then. The bag and one dress I ordered actually held up pretty well throughout the years (and they were kinda unique looking too) and I ended up selling them at a garage sale a few years ago. A crochet cardigan fell apart pretty much immediately, another dress I ordered was too short and crinkly. And they lost a hoodie

[@lisascenic]

“Is vanity going to end the world?” Sobering. And makes me feel like less of a freak for buying almost all of my clothes used.

[@countessa222]

My husband works for an American factory assembly line and unfortunately the higher ups just do not care about their employees they send a message down and expect it to be done even though they don’t have any parts to build the product they still demand overtime and weekends and they basically go to work just to stand there all day… I guess some people finally had enough today and told someone that was able to do something about it for some people everyone jokes that the company won’t be happy until they live there and like it’s not even funny anymore it’s so true 😓

[@160p2GHz]

I see a shift these days from trends to appreciating more of a personalized, long term style and that needs to continue. Not everyone can afford better quality and if you can afford more sustainable you should go with that. But I feel like if every person was just less into whatever the flavor of the month was and actually was like "wait do I even have my own style" that'd be super cool and slide everyone a bit up the scale to investing in better pieces that are just "them" because they'd be happy to wear it for longer.

[@violatokes1248]

"Is vanity going to end the world?" Great video, thank you for speaking up about this important topic!

[@kamille286]

I never jumped on the Shein bandwagon, and I'm feeling happier for it. I always equated it to Wish so I never felt tempted. I just really hope they face some consequences for how their workers are treated

[@alcoholicrattlesnake]

In many ways very similar to how brands from Western Europe hire people in Eastern Europe to create clothes, furniture etc. While giving people jobs is a good thing, most of the times the pay is at the minimum, the work environment is bad ( bosses screaming at employees, no working conditions such as air conditioning, proper heating etc). I know this because I have relatives that have worked in such sweat shops in old halls without windows. They were also payed by piece. The sum was very small even when they were doing Armani suits. Just think about how much one of those suits is worth and how little the workers received for it. This is happening here in Europe, not only in Asian countries.

It's impossible to think about conscious consumption without thinking about different social classes, and unfortunately Europeans and Americans ignore this. Here in Brazil, in third world countries many people buy at Shein. And honestly? I live in a country where thousands of people barely have enough to eat...let alone being able to buy from "ecologically and socially responsible" brands. 🤷‍♀️ And recently I read some data that show that those who spend the most on clothing in Brazil are people from the wealthier classes. Let them try to solve the problems, we poor people already have several...

[@canadagirl7157]

I've looked at shein in the past but I never bought anything because I noticed every single thing was polyester or similar. My wardrobe is still not 100% ethical but I refuse to buy plastic clothes anymore. The thought of the microplastics coming from our laundry alone gives me the creeps.

[@geministargazer9830]

Same. I avoid polyester. Even aside from the environmental concerns it’s just not a nice fabric to wear. I live in a subtropical climate and natural fabrics are just a lot more comfortable to wear.

[@bisexualantigone]

it also makes you sweat, polyester is only good for athletic clothing, I think

[@geministargazer9830]

@@bisexualantigone I don't like it for that either, I have cotton and elastane tights and cotton shirts to work out in.

[@lh3540]

I live in polyester because I do a lot of high intensity winter sports. Most of the REI brands use recycled fibers now. You'll die in cotton in the wrong conditions ("cotton kills"), and the cotton farming itself is also full of slave labor issues. The real issue is not buying as much crap to start with.

[@MsMoople]

I only buy cotton clothes from them. I hate polyester too but they have other things. Tbh they mostly have similar styles and pricing to H&M so I am not always saving money, sometimes they just have something I like. The better made stuff from them also lasts and doesn't fall apart, it's not extra cheap though.

[@bec7080]

I would rather wait an extra day for my clothes than make someone stay up until 2am to make my shirt. you know, like.... just priorities

[@bigscarysteve]

I love how Karolina manages to avoid the usual mispronunciation of the word "epitome"--and yet she still manages to get it wrong.

[@linm124]

Commenting to boost. Went out and immediately watched the documentary after this. Truly heartbreaking and disgusting. Over the past couple of years, I've had the historical fashion community to thank for changing my clothing consumption habits You guys are helping to make a difference.

[@mNIMMm]

I worked in the clothing dept of a thrift store and we could always immediately spot clothing that came from Shein or like brands. We could only send them to recycling because we knew they were so cheap brand new and we could make no profit reselling it. 🙃

[@tangerinehircine6624]

If you're a thrift store you get donations, therefore you dont have to pay for those clothes therefore it's 100% a profit though? I'm confused

[@moonstone4074]

@@tangerinehircine6624 It would not cover the cost of retail space

[@ntcssj]

@@tangerinehircine6624 At thrift shops like Value Village donations are weighted and a bulk price amount from the donations is payed to the non-profits, so the thrift shop still ends up "buying" the product. Or, the thrift shop's policy is it can't price an item that retail values for like $2 at the same price it would cost new, as people would have less chance of buying it and it would take up shop space that could be holding items with higher margins.

[@KC3P00]

Why not donate to homeless/battered women's shelters?

[@ghoulchan7525]

Could make a rack that says Free clothing? I'm sure people would grab one or two things and then buy other stuff too while they are there?

[@Helenaland123]

I believe it's a matter of putting this topic in everyone's agenda, until these brands stop being consumed. Let's keep talking about this! (Although it can be a bit depressing, I know)

[@LysippeLee]

Every time I see a Shein haul or even a "how Shein ruined my order" I cringe. Thank you for shedding light on their slave labor practices! I cannot stand it when people say they want better wages, but then support a company like this one. We need to change our mindset and only shop at companies that treat their employees well. THAT is how you increase labor pay, my friends. When companies start seeing that they are missing profits because of people not spending their money at companies with poor labor practices, they'll start changing those practices. Viola. You just got a raise. You didn't even have to quit. Or they go out of business. Now I know we all know how to put the squeeze on businesses.

[@evergreenxo]

THIS! this is literally the topic of my final anthropology essay which i finished just a couple weeks ago! i’m so glad people are becoming so aware of this crisis 💕

[@kris2455]

I have a H&M jacket that is 20 years old and I still wear it. We need to take the responsibility for our actions. Buying because it's cheap and getting rid of it quickly, this is on us, costumers. If we don't buy it they won't produce it.

[@FromChinatoyou]

I still wear some of my real boots from high school era... 15 years ago.

[@myrna_m]

I too have clothing from fast fashion brands purchased 15 or 20 years ago still in wearable condition, but they have lasted so long because they were much better made than anything those same brands are making today. It's appalling that new t-shirts or jackets will fall apart in 1 or 2 wears with torn seams and holes in the fabric.

[@desolateleng9943]

A lot of people believe that, but it's a very naive outlook on the world and how business, and especially marketing, really works. Corporations don't look for demand, they use aggressive psychological strategies to CREATE demand. They already know what they want their target groups to buy, and then use the immense power that their wealth has given them and manipulate the consumer base to behave the way they want. And of course, to avoid to have the corporations who actually makes the prodict take responsibility for them, they make sure that the world wide rhetoric of the carbon footprint (rhetoric that was created by an oil company) and "personal responsibility" can only ever apply to private individuals. That way, through tricking people into believeing that they are nothing more than consumers whose only way of influencing anyting is through what we buy, corporations ensure that they never will have to worry about collective action and regulations threatening their profit.

[@bisexualantigone]

@@myrna_m Exactly, even a better quality fast fashion brand like Zara has been very shit lately

[@PancakeEnthusiast342]

@@myrna_m exactly! I bought an inexpensive dress (50 USD) for elopement photos. I washed it twice on the delicate cycle with no dryer before it fell apart. Simultaneously I have dresses I bought for 10 USD about 10-15 years ago that still look fine.

[@blackmber]

Kudos for getting this out there. Let’s talk about “false economy” not only in terms of how super-cheap goods fail us as consumers, but also how they harm workers, the environment, and competing businesses. That garbage is gonna cost us way more in the end.

[@velvetsun0138]

ive ignore there issues in the past because of the prices and the fact i could find things in my price range in my size, sense the fashion industry for some reason refuses to make the same looks in bigger sizes 😑 but this is the last nail in the coffin for me, i probaly wont by from them anymore

[@shelbyklassen8277]

Honestly, I don’t get people saying shein is the only way to wear cute clothes. Shein clothes are not cute and they look cheap. Especially IRL.

[@hopelessromantic8682]

It’s not just Shein. So many factories in Asia have the same problems. Walmart is a brick and mortar store that is just as bad. They just overprice it but it’s the same cheap stuff.

[@rebeccassweetmusic4632]

Speaking as a 1x plus size woman with a bigger bust, I understand the feeling of being emotionally attached to a store despite the fact that they have shitty practices. It can be so hard for us to find things we know will fit us and our budget. For me, I shop very little now and will only buy clothes from fast fashion stores if I absolutely need them. Especially if it's for special events, holidays, etc. Other than that, if I wanted to go shopping just for fun, I would rather go to my local thrift store where I know I will have really great luck there

[@franklinstephen3268]

Hi 👋how are you doing?

[@ghoulchan7525]

I mean if it's your only option. Then i feel like it's ok.

[@rebeccassweetmusic4632]

@@ghoulchan7525 I know it's not my only option. I just prefer to consume less and not buy clothes too much unless I need them or if I'm planning an outfit to fit a theme for a holiday party, etc. Otherwise, I just wear the clothes I have.

[@rebeccassweetmusic4632]

@@ghoulchan7525 Plus, it's a privilege to live in a nicer area and be able to find a local thrift store that is also a small business where you can find amazing clothes in your size. I don't blame other plus size people for shopping Shein and other fast fashion brands because not everything is accessible in our size. I can't own authentic vintage because they're so inaccessible to my size. I like Vintage Reproduction because while they're pricy and something you can get every now-and-then, they carry vintage-inspired clothing for women of all sizes

[@semekiizuio]

Oh yeah for sure. Theres always a variety of large size clothes that are actually pretty in thrift stores. Average size is much harder to find that arent too worn and nice

[@rachel9744]

A while back i wanted to cancel my account on shein. It was SO DIFFICULT. I had 5 email exchanges with different people from shein, all trying to convince me to stay, saying why do you want to leave? And when i emailed back the reason they gave me a statement like the one they gave that reporter. Finally after 5 emails they stopped.

[@SteamyBun]

Thank you for this! I would love to see you or another fashion KZbin analyze the absolute DELUGE of Chinese fast fashion and drop ship brands that have appeared in the last few years. I've seen so many of these blink-and-miss-them brands pop up in tailored ads on my social feeds it's insane. And it seems like they retain an online presence just long enough to sell enough people shit quality clothing items that look nothing like the picture, and then abandon ship and rebrand as something else. I find these brands so incredibly shady but it's hard to find more information about them because of their intentional elusiveness.

[@bebatov11]

In the past Two years I’ve replace all my clothing with handmade (Etsy) or I’ve made. I love my wardrobe (mostly dresses and skirts) and broke off the “trend” fashion.

[@dees3179]

I try and make my clothes. I’m bad at it and end up with very odd creations. But every time I wear it I get compliments. People like things that are different. I agree, make it yourself to get that. You don’t actually have to be good at it! Get a basic pattern for tops and bottoms and get used to those. When you make your own you can add things like pockets to make them varied.

[@bebatov11]

@@dees3179 I have made some odd things myself…I’ve picked up embroidery to help with that. Nothing a cute fox or a flower can’t spruce up. The more I’ve made, the better I’m getting.

[@l3unnies]

This is a goal of mine! To break away from this weird consumption of constantly new fashion trends.

[@michipichu]

That sounds like such a lovely wardrobe. This is what i'm trying to do as well. also dresses and skirts > pants anyday (ok most days) haha

[@bisexualantigone]

Goal of mine too, once I get a job and can afford Etsy, I'm going to buy more from there

[@firiel2366]

Thank you so much for talking about this. A few years ago I watched the documentary The True Cost which revealed how incredibly unethical the garment industry is. Few things have ever shaken me that much. It's not hard for me to blame others for having McMansions or driving over-sized cars, since those aren't things I'm doing. But learning how my own clothes shopping habits were hurting people... it felt really awful. I'd been so caught up in consuming things that I hadn't stopped to wonder how any t-shirt could possibly cost $3 and still be made under just conditions. Since then, I've completely changed the way I shop for clothes (and other items, as much as possible). There's still a lot to learn though. Thank you for using your voice to lift others up ❤️

[@LanaMarie]

Thanks for talking about this!

[@nishsworld3743]

Thank you so much for this!! Apart from a lack of a physical location, their shady work has not only contributed to landfill waste, pollution, and a consumer spending crisis, but as well as poor ethical living and working conditions and barely any rights, it’s scary to see how many “influencers” tag along to trends endorsed by brands SHEIN or ROMWE or Fashion-Nova. Yes, it’s affordable, and stylish, but it comes at a huge cost. Thank you so much for this video, the more people are aware of these atrocities, the better we can build a more conscious, sustainable and fashionable society..

[@roxannlegg750]

The men who organise these factories to run this way, and manage companies that run on this kind of "business model" - if you can call it that, should be invoiced for the items found in landfill that year. And anyone who buys them should be shamed for doing so. Cant remember when I bought a new item of clothing. The amount of second hand products available make buying new more than a few times a year would collapse our economy. Thats the sad part. Our prosperity as a western society is based on buying things we dont need and dont repair, or cant repair. Well researched video.

[@sarasthoughts]

Feeling shame for buying clothing? How do we need to have this conversation AGAIN? THERE IS NO ETHICAL CONSUMPTION UNDER CAPITALISM. People need clothing and right now finding companies that source ethical labour is almost impossible, and if you do, it is CERTAINLY too expensive for the current cost of living crisis.

[@sage9836]

Most of my clothing is thrifted, and from a charity resale, and if I don't like it, I re-donate it in good condition. It's like a clothing library.

[@jUQMtDmf]

​@@sarasthoughts Why does this simple minded comment get so many likes? Bots? Roxann is literally talking about buying second hand. That is ethical and affordable.

[@kateherr2893]

@@jUQMtDmf That's literally NOT possible for every size of person. If you're straight sized check your privilege.

[@tulip811]

Yeah because women buy shit? And love to do it

[@DieAlteistwiederda]

I've been buying mainly secondhand clothes for a while now and I can tell you I've never gotten more compliments about my clothes. I can get a lot of stuff secondhand I would never be able to afford new and I have some really amazing pieces in my wardrobe now. Lots of sustainable long wearing fabrics too which I definitely look for as well because even buying secondhand I want to wear it for as long as possible and I want to be able to repair it.

[@katerinaschenke819]

Love what you can find second hand!

[@yenlx3354]

Worst thing is it isn’t even that cheap. The prices are the same as Zara, H&M, Primark, even most pieces by Adidas is the same price here. And for the reselling, I usually sold all my cheap stuff at Vinted. Even Primark or SHEIN. I tried to get rid of most of my old fast fashion pieces, because I wanted to buy new and better quality clothing. But for me I got the rule that I’m only buying new things when something is broken (f.e. shoes or bags) or when I sold enough of my clothes to afford new things.

[@lovegold3225]

I got earrings from there, big mistake, i had a (relatively minor) allergic reaction on my face, I'm not allergic to any metals, never have been. Something is seriously wrong there. All the clothes I've gotten (4 articles) have all held up and been gorgeous, i love them as they are in a new aesthetic to what i normally wear but I've agreed with myself that i am no longer buying with them.

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

Remember when London Tipton’s “wear it a day and then throw it away” was supposed to be satire of cosumerism

[@meh_lady]

There’s a VERY good documentary series made by Only Human where teens work in different types of clothing sweatshops. It’s enlightening and horrifying. Definitely recommend, there’s multiple episodes.

[@nicolakunz231]

Thank you for posting this. I never shop online as I'm plus size and I can see but its pretty horrific that they treat ppl this way. The add right after your video was for shein.

[@Flowerhag]

I needed this after seeing a friend stocking her cart up last night. It’s so easy to stop thinking about these workers realities in exchange for cute, cheap clothing, but it’s our responsibility to stay conscious.

[@GaryDunion]

It's giving Triangle Shirtwaist

[@NoaLeighMaxwell]

What a nightmare. This is why I've moved to buying only second hand clothes, making my own stuff, repairing it, etc. When the husb and I have kids, we're getting everything second hand and teaching the kids why.

[@MagisterialVoyager]

Thank you for talking about this issue, Karolina! ❤

[@6thgraderfriends]

This is the kind of thing that makes me want to have everything I wear be bespoke, made 100% local. Maybe one day when I make enough money.

[@lifeisashenanigan4816]

I don't understand how people didn't see this from the get-go, if something is being sold for cheap and is obviously made rushed AND it's made in China... it's not going to be paying its workers that well. This whole "Oh my goodness Shein is horrible" scandal, while warranted because yes, they are treating their workers like trash, is kinda surprising given the patent obviousness of the situation. Eh well. Your thoughts are super good, I appreciate this analysis!

[@benzaiten933]

of course people know, even young teenagers know - they just don't care or are too poor to afford other clothes. but you're right, clutching pearl and pretending like this is some kind of revelation really is hypocritical.

[@RhythmAddictedState]

Yes, this is the epitome of "Pikachu surprised face" lmao, like why are people even surprised at this point

[@clawwestfall8799]

They just don't care.

[@JemimaDoesASMR]

There's a difference though between abstractly knowing they have poor working conditions and having the actual numbers presented to you. I knew it was really bad, of course, but 6000 new pieces a day, hundreds of thousands or millions of garments wasted per day, and 500 garments made by each worker PER DAY are numbers that wouldn't have occurred to me because they seem impossible.

[@clawwestfall8799]

@@JemimaDoesASMR I mean, sure there is some difference. But those who didn't care before still don't care now...

[@JenE-TX]

Keep talking about this stuff! Awareness is so important - I had no idea of this issue until a couple of years ago. I truly believe that a lack of awareness is part of what keeps the demand for fast fashion so high. Clearly, there are a ton of other issues but for me, personally, once I became aware of the impacts of fast fashion, I made a conscious decision to change the way I procure clothing for my whole family. Great video.

[@s.noellemelton3566]

Thank you for bringing this to everyone's attention.