Is this the end of Avatar?

[@foxybeast7244]

How will this affect Lebron’s legacy?

[@TheAvatarist]

asking the big questions

[@KJ7Tillymann]

Who?

[@suzygirl1843]

@@TheAvatarist So this is basically The Acolyte?????????/

[@elijahrajpaul9189]

@@TheAvatarist side quest: but I don’t think people dislike Korra, I personally feel like it was the setting of the show, some of the main side characters weren’t as interesting as in aangs group, and the side characters that were great didn’t get enough screen time. And the whole technological era was ambitious and probably sounded better on paper, just didn’t deliver. And then you have the villains, they just weren’t as defined as the ones aang had to verse. It’s not korra herself but the show itself

[@elijahrajpaul9189]

@@TheAvatarist and ontop of that, the story is as old as time which is why it has an older audience as well. An avatar coming whenever the world is in ruin is a deep subject to a lot of the older generations…

[@hannahgambino3884]

I never thought "Korra was forced to destroy the world do to a cataclysmic event". The way I interpreted it was "A cataclysmic event threatened the very existence of the planet, and Avatar Korra was forced to hold everything together -- destroying everything and killing her in the process."

[@cavaleirot]

I already imagined that Korra would cause the destruction of the world, she made several bad decisions, leaving countless enemies with the bend, and even alive, despite the crimes committed. Korra wasn't a good Avatar, ok, it doesn't matter if you're a fan or a hater of Korra, she didn't know how to be a good Avatar, period. Now, I thought that the next story would actually show the new Avatar having to correct Korra's mistakes, learning from herself not to repeat her mistakes from her previous life, although I didn't think about a post-apocalyptic world. This could be phonetically fantastic or a melodic nightmare. Because it is A CHANCE to correct all the errors in Korra's Story, not only in the character, but also in the script, which from beginning to end was disappointing. A failed heroine who seeks to redeem herself, a villain using evil to achieve the greater good, or giving hope in a world without her. It's something we all urgently need today. Avatar is a critique of our own world, we are at a decisive moment of evolution or death, living in dystopia. These two could be the redemption or destruction of the franchise. NOTE: I hope they don't turn them into bad stereotypes like Korra.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

@@cavaleirot Plus, it would fit. Like, the books and the like show damn near every Avatar has had to correct the mistakes of their predeccesor

[@cavaleirot]

@chrisdiokno5600 No!

[@chrisdiokno5600]

@@cavaleirot I mean, Kyoshi had to fix Kuruk's mistakes, as Kuruk did for Yangchen

[@jerrisatyourwindow]

@@cavaleirot every avatar had to fix the issues of the previous one. Aang had to stop fire nation from attacking everyone after ryoku planted the seeds for it to prosper. Korra had to fix Aang’s mistake on giving too much power towards benders and ignoring the hatred created by those who don’t have such powers. The next avatar will have to live life without talking to the previous lives. Korra as an avatar had to solve problems and create new solutions that no avatar before her has to deal with.

[@Alexander-oh8ry]

I totally agree that the technological backwards step is a very good thing. I didnt like how it turned out in Korra, it made Bending less meaningful and felt unfitting. I would really like it if Seven Havens turned out to be really dark and brutal (like Attack on Titan), with a similarly huge main threat that turns out to be the reason why Korra "destroyed" the earth

[@Ame865]

This is Nickelodeon bud that’s pushing it

[@ThePrincessCH]

@@Ame865 I don't think Nickelodeon is going to be airing the new one.

[@shandya]

I’m still not buying the twin avatars concept, but I also agree, actually a bit relief, with the technological backwards. Hopefully we can see some solarpunk elements on the havens, that would be nice!

[@pogieclash7672]

​@Ame865 Nickelodeon has no part in this besides owning the studio. The whole reason avatar studios was founded was because of nickelodeon overstepping on creative right.

[@emmamason5383]

Bruhhhhhh I like this idea 😮 I’d love if they went an AOT route

[@ancientiroh]

Also I'm pretty sure the leaks said Korra had to SAVE the world by "destroying" it

[@bej4987]

We did it Patrick

[@AudioHugsbyMyster_yvan]

Eren

[@hunterkudo9832]

They really wrote it down and thought they cooked.

[@luigi5341]

The Avatarist own twitter account said that he had double-sourced info from a Paramount employee who said Korra destroyed the world, so idk.

[@ancientiroh]

@@luigi5341 I said destroy is part of yes but it wasn't for no reason like most ppl seemed to assume for some reason

[@samlung2724]

I assume the post apocalypse thing is because they don't want to modernize the world. Because in the future, would the avatar even be needed? With the technology advancement, will there be an Iron Man like hero?

[@emmamason5383]

Exactly my thoughts

[@Lord_Ivoundy_Creood]

And political advancements, the Avatar wouldnt really be needed

[@magneticanomaly810]

@@samlung2724 that was my big concern about going forward instea dof backward. Especially when we got the rumors of it being more cyberpunk. I'm all for a post apocalyptic setting though. The next 1000 years could be what the world was like for the 1000 years before Aang. Obviously it'll have its own uniqueness and whatnot, I just don't want an avatar series in modern times. Just no

[@White_Night_Demon]

Well iron man still existed in the marvel universe which is technologically superior to ours.....sooo....

[@DamonCassada345]

You mean Iroh Man

[@josephguiste9465]

Well, when you title your video “The new Avatar Series destroys EVERYTHING”, you end up contributing to and spearheading that culture of negativity, instead of contributing to honest, neutral reporting.

[@theemeraldwarrior3159]

I agree with him, he right

[@josephguiste9465]

@ You agree with what? His hyperbolic language?

[@chinkal2005]

I thought so too! He also keeps saying korra destroys the world without the associated context

[@theemeraldwarrior3159]

@@josephguiste9465 oof my bad i agree with you , your right**

[@MrDiplomat180]

When clickbait goes wrong

[@WCLCooke]

How would the two Avatars reincarnate? Would they come back as twins again, or reincarnate as two different people and be soulmate enemies of order and chaos?

[@Akiram1445]

I feel like either option could work well. If it's always twins, that doesn't mean it has to happen every generation. They could say that Vaatu takes time to "recharge" after being defeated if they still want to mix it up for the next series after. It only being twins the first time, then splitting into two separate Avatar cycles gives also seems like it would lead to some interesting stories, like having their ages end up out of sync. I'd love to see stuff like an older Avatar finding a child Dark Avatar and trying to raise them not to be evil.

[@WCLCooke]

@ I honestly think that reincarnating separately makes the most logical sense because it’s not likely they’ll die at the same time.

[@twocents7509]

@@WCLCooke good questions, if I had to guess what the “logic” is here I think it be something like: Korra absorbed two spirits, so when she died they were still stuck together, so raava/vaatu went to find a new “host” to be the avatar while they were still fused. They then inhabited a zygote or whatever (not entirely sure when raava actually inhabits the new avatar), and then the dual nature of raava and vaatu forced a split to create twins, one with raava and the other with vaatu. Once these two avatars die, raava and vaatu will be separate and able to inhabit whoever rather than the same being.

[@karlozfox]

​@twocents7509 I think in this universe, fetuses receive the soul the moment of birth. As we see the death of Roku immediately leading to the birth of Aang.

[@twocents7509]

@ could be, but then you have to wonder how the two spirits of raava and vaatu separated (assuming that’s what causes there to be two avatars).

[@فنكجَلِيدٍ]

My biggest problem with the next series is the main characters' age. I think 9 years old is too young. Between 12~14 would be better IMO.

[@emmamason5383]

For all we know, they could start the show when they’re that age. And then they’re a bit older later. That’s my guess anyway

[@فنكجَلِيدٍ]

@emmamason5383 that's what I'm hoping for.

[@nicholaslemosdecarvalho5328]

​@@emmamason5383I was hoping for that too, but apparently, according to the casting calls, they were only looking for children to voice the Avatars throughout the whole season. So maybe there won't be any time skip during the first season

[@ashleys637]

​@emmamason5383 This is my hope right here. Aang being 12 was pushing it. Not to be cynical, but I don't want to watch Dora the Explorer for multiple seasons. No matter how much the twins maybe had to, "grow up fast" there's only so much you can do with younger children plot-wise in a cartoon like this.

[@MercyJonathan-g1o]

Some anime main characters start from age 9

[@SiriusGalilei]

Avatarist, I do think this show has the potential to be interesting and I’m all for giving most of the potential elements in these leaks a chance, but the twin Avatar thing gives me pause. And it’s more than just the fact that there hasn’t been an established precedent for the avatar in the series previously. One thing that is referred to as Samderson’s Second Law of Magic is my main misgivings about the idea of a twin Avatar set. The law itself says that when writing a magic system, establishing what your magic CANNOT do is more important than what it can do. It can make the magic system more interesting and complex if you establish what the system is not capable of, and allow the characters to manipulate the magic system within those confines. Toph’s ability to metalbend and bloodbending are good ways that doesn’t break the bending system, but allows it to be more versatile. And while Korra (especially season 2) pushed the envelope a bit and offered exceptions to the established rules set in ATLA, it tries it’s best not to break the magic system’s rules that were firmly established in the original show. I just worry that the twin avatar idea might be the straw that breaks the magic system’s back. The writers, if they do intend to use this idea, have to think very carefully on how they want to establish this idea in the world that makes it so it is a plausible possibility that could exist. It’s an interesting idea to be sure, but I worry that unless they make a good enough case for why it can exist within the magic system, it might make the world and characters less compelling. But that is just my thoughts on the issue, they could surprise us and I would love to be proven wrong.

[@magneticanomaly810]

@@SiriusGalilei I agree 100%. I'm all for all of these ideas in the leaks, bring it on, but I do not believe both twins being the avatar or splitting the avatar works at all. Sounds cool, could be fun and interesting, but breaks established lore and could cause the whole franchise to unravel

[@ronaldmorris1462]

The only way I can see the twin thing working is if it's like the twins in borderlands. Where one isn't a real avatar and rather a parasite the leeches power off the other.

[@josephguiste9465]

The idea of a Spirit’s energy being split into two beings was established in the magic system during the first season of ATLA with the moon spirit being split between the koi fish and Princess Yue. The same could be possible with Raava.

[@magneticanomaly810]

@josephguiste9465 it wasn't split though, it gave her some of its essence to keep her alive. It didn't split itself. She just gave it back. Nice try though. While she had the moon spirits essence she was not spirity and magical. So even if the twin has some of Raava's essence she wouldn't be the avatar

[@josephguiste9465]

@ They were both the Moon spirit. The Koi fish died, and Yue in returning the life force actually became the moon spirit herself. It was split. I’m not trying anything sneaky, I’m just telling you what happened in the show.

[@meduzsazsa8490]

9:20 The Legend of Korra didn't have to destroy the whole world for the plot to be good and interesting. There were still many threats, villains and problems present in the series. Yes, all the eras have the problems, wars and serious conflicts, but neither of them literally destroyed the world. There was so much potential for the future of the world with new wars, states, identities, ideologies etc and they just threw all of that in the bin. Making new problems in the world doesn't mean you have to destroy the current world, you can just build the world up from where it left off, like LoK did

[@bulbafett5001]

THis right here is my problem. Why does modern media constantly need to destroy and defile the previous hero in order to make the next one much cooler

[@Tay234.]

Cuz korra was trash. But honestly we gotta see the reason why the world was destroyed

[@trillz7365]

u people who complain about things like this are weird. just because you like something doesn’t mean it needs to be curated to your liking. your also complaining about a show that is in the process of being made.. are u guys okay?

[@trillz7365]

u guys act like this is YOUR show lol nobody cares that u middle age men don’t like how they’re taking the story.

[@Amit7.]

Cope harder 😂

[@h1_Im_Sevak]

TBF it has a lot of potential and I confidently believe avatar studios can make another avatar(s) series

[@DiscordBeing]

I think it sounds cool and people are grosser people than they realize as evidenced by this reaction. Men need to get their 💩 together.

[@BobPantsSpongeSquare97]

My main issue is how out of everything to build this new series around, they chose the worst plot thread from LoK, that being the Vatu arc. It reminds me of how in Game of Thrones most people were disappointed with how the white walkers and Long Night were handled in season 8 but for some reason they keep referencing it in House of the Dragon lmao. Like I was certain that the world of Avatar was done with the dark avatar plot point but now it's the main driving force behind this new show and frankly a post apocalyptic setting feels too out of place in this universe

[@oywiththepoodlesalready]

Right, why didn’t they build off of the stronger points of Korra, instead of it’s weakest? I love TLOK but I do recognize that the season 2 spirit world plot with Raava and Vatuu was the weakest point. I hope this show isn’t just Mike and Bryan trying to fix the worst part of Korra, writing-wise.

[@tlokpmalone]

Kinda crazy how they decide to make it like Korra season 2, which was the weakest season in LoK

[@xray7738]

@oywiththepoodlesalready wth, season 2 was not the lowest point, the lowest one was probably season 1 or season 4.

[@karlozfox]

Agreed

[@TheDarkOne1920]

But what exactly of season 2 was the lowest points? Because for me the only things that were really bad was Korra losing the connections to her past lifes and the giant fight and then were Jenora saves the day. Everything else for me was good. I really enjoyed the idea of the Avatar spirit and having a dark Avatar.

[@justin12378]

I wanted an earthbender series to take place in an 80s type world and then a firebender series to be set in a futuristic world

[@chaos4654]

When it comes to a post apocalptic setting, the technological progress isn't necessarily reset, It's gonna be more scattershot and anachronistic in part thanks to how physically divided things have become. I think we might still see trucks and air ships. Maybe even the occasional mech.

[@Jbluejake]

(sigh) The setting doesn’t decide how good the stories are that we can tell. It’s the writing. Any issue with telling new stories in the Four Nations is a problem with Writing, not the setting. What, we really think we wasted all the good stories we could tell in the world of the Four Nations already? It’s a planet with massive continents and places we haven’t even seen yet. Settings in other franchises, places like Metropolis and Gotham City for DC Comics, they’ve been used for telling stories for almost 100 irl years now and we’re still getting good stories in those settings. I don’t have a problem with them nuking everything and starting with something new, they can do whatever they want and I couldn’t stop them so why bother. It’s when people say that bland and repetitive stories are caused by the setting still being the Four Nations, when in reality, repetitive and stale stories are almost ALWAYS caused by the writing… that’s where I draw the line. What, do we really think that big AAA game they’re making for Avatar is just going to rehash everything we’ve already seen? According to this logic, yes. It’s in the Four Nations, so that’s what will happen, right? Anything we ever do now with the Four Nations from now and until the end of time will just rehash Aang and Korra, right? Um, no. And what’s the point of using this new setting so we can tell “newer, fresher, and better stories” if all we’re going to do is rehash Kyoshi’s story but with twins? And do we genuinely, honestly, wholeheartedly believe that EVERY SINGLE AVATAR since Wan did the exact same things, had the exact same stories, and did everything that happened in ATLA over and over again for literally 10,000 years?? Of course not. C’mon guys, the setup is there. Just use it! You won’t alienate the majority of your audience that way

[@senpaishade]

I've commented this on a previous video but I still think they should have jumped ahead one full avatar cycle and give us the *next* earthbening avatar. In that way, the whole "ruined Aang and Korra's legacy" goes out the window cause it's been at minimum 400 years since then, and we could have more previous avatars the new avatar could talk to for guidance.

[@JulioCesar-rj2xq]

I agree!

[@joesunday199]

A large Time skip allowing for some mystery regarding Avatars after Korra would have been interesting.

[@theemeraldwarrior3159]

@@joesunday199honestly facts

[@andrewharmony]

The concept of post-apocalypse and twin avatars does not sound exciting to me and it makes me sad because i've been trying to convince myself to like the idea

[@viewtifuljoe5285]

I agree

[@AlexHonger-fj3nx]

I actually like the idea apposed to a modern era/cyberpunk avatar like some people where suggesting before this leak.

[@iTs_ThE_qUeNcHiEsT]

10:01 maybe it’s a kuruk situation, people say he’s the worst, but he was just doing what he had to, he didn’t have a choice. He was secretly doing things that helped the world, his bad deeds were a better alternative to what would have happened had he been like Yangchen. Idk tho

[@archievii]

I actually liked Korra. The rise of tech and science, was a nice contrast to the mysticism of bending. Now…they could of done some other things differently, but overall it wasn’t that bad. My question is what about the Sand bender Avatar? Would that be it’s own story or would it be put on ice?

[@sckaze777]

Sandbender is fanfic

[@archievii]

@ Darn. I was hoping that was canon. Oh well.

[@sawyerheslep8493]

It might end up like Megamind 2. It'd be a disservice to the original content.

[@archievii]

@@sawyerheslep8493 ah…I see.

[@amitkenan3878]

@@sawyerheslep8493 The creators of Avatar will die before they turn their creation into something similar to Magamind 2

[@TrulyMorningstar]

They really chose the worst plot point from korra that literally destroyed the entirety of spirits and spirituality from Atla 🤦‍♂️

[@hunterkudo9832]

For real. The writers are seriously just bad, but fans will eat it up, so lets see how it will be.

[@thundereagle4130]

Avatar just needs this in order for it to keep working, the avatarworld is simply to peaceful right now for any interesting story. Sure you can make some weird terroristgroup again just like in Korra, but that would make this series just LoK 2. The only thing I can think of is some sort of civil war in the earthkingdom with some of the new states becoming brutal dicatorships, but even that wouldn't be that interesting as the other nations have enough power to crush bad states and the whole story would revolve around the (former) earth kingdom again. People seem to be ignorant how hard it is to keep the world of Avatar engaging. ATLA worked because Aang was gone for 100 years, LoK worked because there was never a series about rogue terrorists in the world of avatar before.

[@blaisechukwuma]

You are making sense

[@joesunday199]

There are plenty of interesting concepts that Avatar can use before resetting everything with a Post Apocalypse setting. Plenty of different kinds of Spirits, Corporations, Pirates (like Sky Pirates), something more personal for the Avatar, new technologies that threaten Bending or Spirits, even pollution could be a main focus.

[@NaylorChild]

Im going to be cautiously optimistic, I personally don't lile 2 avatars but i will give the show a chance because Im a fan and it has potential to change my mind.

[@nealarango1691]

I can’t believe people are reacting like that. After years of waiting I am off the charts excited for a new series. The creators made two amazing shows and I think have earned my trust that whatever they cone up with next will also be great. It’s not what I was expecting, but that’s okay! Let them tell their story people!

[@bulbafett5001]

Honestly the whole twist of Korra destroying the world is kind of fucking tired. I"m sick and tired every previous hero in a story having to go down in flaming ruins for the next hero in line to be cooler. And I'm not even a big Korra fan, but this just does the girl dirty.

[@trillz7365]

@@bulbafett5001this show isn’t being made for you specifically

[@oywiththepoodlesalready]

@trillz7365 They know that. Not everyone’s opinions and critiques are a personal attack, Jesus. It’s just a show.

[@trillz7365]

@oywiththepoodlesalready WHICH IS MY WHOLE POINT. so before u get on here tryna check some tighten your helmet. coming up with think pieces on how yall can make the show better when it’s not even out like yall created the avatar franchise. my whole point was he made an intro about yall being delusional and what do yall do come to the comment section to continue being slow

[@goosejuice27]

i wish they went backwards in time rather than forward. the level of technology was a big part of the charm for me.

[@Danka42]

Whether it was the apocalypse or not, judging from the artworks Korra died really young, which makes me so sad I can't even 😭

[@sawyerheslep8493]

Bro if this happens, it's gonna be like Megamind 2. It would be a disservice to the original lore, etc.

[@rightdubz]

I also disagree with your point that we've seen the entire world during Atla. Korra literally left the spirit portals open, which means there's a lot more exploring for anyone to do in that realm and they could bring their bending into the spirit realm. Another conflict and plot line wasted.

[@jamesbaker5351]

No, the world was destroyed not the spirit world. And also who’s to say they won’t explore them both anyway. Let the show debut before saying what’s wasted or not

[@rightdubz]

@@jamesbaker5351 white the spirit world may still exist, I feel like there's still a lot of the real world to explore. We haven't seen all of the earth kingdom states, and the only part of the fire nation we have seen is the capital, ember island, boiling rock, and roku's temple. There's a lot more to the fire nation too. I'm saying there's a potentially really good story line that is wasted, not that the entire show is wasted.

[@OceanBlu75]

Well the 4 nations didn't exist in the spirit world. Can't really say for sure, but I haven't seen anything saying the spirit world was also destroyed

[@ahmeddamdami5569]

We could still have it in this new serie

[@ryanrufus3593]

My only gripe with this new series is that its convolution with the main source of inspiration for the show. An avatar is a reincarnation of a single soul. Both in dharmic religions, which is where the show even got its name from to even the storyline of the show. I can not see how they will explain a single soul being reincarnated into two different bodies in the same lifetime. Without contradiction in every way possible

[@ThePrincessCH]

@@ryanrufus3593 I've heard that some cultures used to believe that twins share half of the same soul.

[@BestAnimeFreak]

If you know how the Avatar reincarnation cycle works, it's really not that hard to figure out how two avatars can exist ... Because we already had two avatars at the same time. In Avatar, the Avatar is a human who is the vessel of Raavaa, the light spirit. If the human dies, Raavaa inhabits the next human. Thus, a new Avatar is born. In LoK, the Dark Avatar was introduced, who is a human who inhibits Vaatu, the dark spirit. Vaatu got sealed away, so no reincarnation for him. How Vaatu gets freed and why he takes over a twin? Well, that's to be seen. But it very likely has to do with the reason, why the world went to shit. It's really not that hard to come up with an explanation, so it's hard to understand, why you are unable to see any of that.

[@TheAvatarist]

Going against the grain with this one. Hope you guys can hear me out

[@Apexthebeast]

Honestly, this feels like some twisted fans AO3 fanfic. And Honestly can't believe they're going this route. Only cuz it's the creators doing this will I give it a chance, but I will remain skeptical at best

[@LuisSierra42]

I don't get the hate, the premise does sound interesting although I would like to know more about how Korra supposedly destroyed the world, it feels out of character for her

[@jonas2742]

I believe the silent majority agrees with you 😊 Haters gonna hate. I’m excited for the show, for what it’s worth.

[@joshua2764]

Im sorry bruh but no Just no

[@lawrup]

​@Apexthebeast the military is cool But isint the military accused of doing some things like SA women in the military and covering it up and won't confirm of deny it And Hiding the Existence of aliens And participate in Bohemian Grove Where they do some Appalling things to Little Children And that your just expendable You can be replaced

[@gajxo]

Man, your previous videos were trying to stir up controversy by misinterpreting the leaks. You criticising the community is kind of disingenuous.

[@TheAvatarist]

I didn't misinterpret anything. I have first hand information on the series and was privately sent animation of the first episode. The original leaker misinterpreted things, I simply cleared them up in my video.

[@newworldman2112]

Two twin girls.....yeah this is going suck hard. It's most likely immersed in all the crap that has given us things like modern day Star Wars, Dragon Age: The Veilguard, The Marvels, etc.

[@andruberriosbuzura7835]

Let them cook 😡 they've made two amazing avatar shows and I'm fully convinced the new show is gonna be as good as the previous ones

[@newhybrid101]

They made one great basically near perfect show and one show that was pretty good but massively worse than its predessor and had mixed reactions. Now imagine if the next one is MUCH WORSE than a "pretty good" show

[@goosejuice27]

well not everyone thinks korra was good

[@michaelmikeykellymikeydama5405]

LoK was not amazing, it was lukewarm at best and only the 3rd season stood out. It does not however sound like a disaster like what these leaks are proposing.

[@cardboard_hat]

One amazing avatar show

[@wolfiegraham8514]

Words have never been spoken more true people need to chill and just be down for the ride

[@Amdecreations.]

I'm not 100% on board with this premis. It's like they don't want it set in a futuristic setting so use Korra destroying the world to have a post apocalyptic almost fantasy type setting as the main thing for the story. I still think have the story of the Red Lotus veing put in jail would have been a better story.

[@Zippy_815]

As others have said, it feels like fanfic. It also feels like it's a cashgrab. My favorite series have known when to end it. LoK did turn out well (imo), but it was pushing it. Continuously adding to something does not automatically make it better. I also don't like how it's just pushing more hate towards Korra. I really liked the show, but a lot of people consider it a flop and have deemed Korra the "worst avatar." They have to know that this will only direct more disdain towards that work.

[@e.corellius4495]

idk how i feel about it. personally im on of the few who loved korra even more than atla, and loved the steampunk stuff. kinda hoped they would keep going with the age up with the audience thing and make the earth avatar some super chill dude in his 30s, like a Spike Spiegel type dude. bro just travels around chilling in an era of peace korra carved out, without much going on. whole first season would just be him doing little stuff, sorta reintroducing the new spirt filled world, almost full slice of life season only cutting away to some shadowy figures plotting "something". but then last episode of season 1 his chill just let it be attitude means some 1940s stuff was happening without him even aware, and season 2 hes gotta deal with the fact that he let ww2 happen. but thats just me i guess. twins could be good especially if its dark/light like you say, even better if the dark one only gains water and is an earth/water bender rather than all 4 making it entirely unique. i really really want to be hopeful, but the most entertainment these days kinda sucks and weve been in an era of franchise destruction for a while now, which has understandable made me jaded. i hope its good, but i dont have blind faith that it even necessarily can be in this era. i mean it seems like maybe we are at the end of the tunnel now, so if this was only starting production now, id probably be more excited, but it was largely in development during the height of "lets ignore everything in this franchises past for the sake of some bs nobody wanted" no major franchise from star wars to lord of the rings survived the "slop-ening" of entertainment, i dont have it in me to be hopeful that any of them can. if im wrong and its amazing, then i will be thrilled. but i wont get my hopes up anymore, not sure i even can.

[@parsaalishiri8138]

I never hate but Jesus the leaks were very disappointing why not just give us something like genji

[@amitkenan3878]

I'm not sure how big this world will be considering there are only seven cities now. There are probably tribes living outside the cities but still...

[@EB-73-]

1:10 "Anyone with bending is drafted into the army to fight nature" Such sloppy writing in a world where it's inhabitants can literally shape it with their mind.

[@Numero103]

Probably because of spirits

[@TabiBasa1350]

being born and growing up in a world that's already broken, that feels like it's heading towards an unstoppable end. how can kids possibly learn to cope with that? edit: also i love how the setting reminds me of horizon zero dawn

[@TheNameIsNexOG]

having 2 Avatars is stupid and makes no sense of course its gonna get hated on they are ruining the series with this garbage. the whole point of Avatar is a guy merged with Raava the light spirit and became the avatar and when the Avatar dies they reincarnate so having 2 of them makes no sense, it cant be Vaatu because it hasnt been 10K years since Korra dies only 100

[@talk4562]

Korra restored Rava 20 minutes after she was destroyed - from what I figure they always somewhat exist, it just takes 10k years and the harmonic convergence for them tk fully re-emerge. Before Vaatu was trapped in the tree of time for the 10k years, now hes seemingly inside Rava the same way Rava was inside him (letting Korra pull her out) Imo, don't judge before actually knowing the plot!

[@ThePrincessCH]

Yes and no. Reincarnation is essentially a soul born into a different body, but I've heard that some believe twins share half of the same soul.

[@johnnybaxter8078]

@@ThePrincessCH that's Bs every person is the owner of their own soul

[@ThePrincessCH]

@@johnnybaxter8078 I think that depends on the cultural belief.

[@joesunday199]

@talk4562 Raava needed a special technique. This would not be the same thing.

[@Jammet]

The show is probably gonna be awesome, but please, for the love of god, no more girl-boss tropes. Please. Let them be like Korra, like just a regular person, no constant sarcasm, constant cynics, constant snark.

[@LunaHarp91]

Raava & Vatu DID break established lore.

[@twocents7509]

@@LunaHarp91 lol, yeah. And it’s the worst arc in korra by far. Now it seems the creators are going to use everyone’s least favorite plot points in korra for the basis of the new show… ugh.

[@quasimodo8643]

no it didnt

[@Kumaa177]

You get??? One of the worst things about korra

[@magneticanomaly810]

@@LunaHarp91 how did Raava and Vaatu break established lore? In the 3rd ever episode of ATLA, Katara called the avatar state his Avatar spirit. They always intended the Avatar to be half spirit. They've even said as much in interviews regarding Book 2 of Korra.

[@baki484]

​​@@twocents7509 So like Boruto doubling down on the least likable aspect of Naruto Shippuden the Otsutsuki?. Legend of korra wasn't as bad

[@jakemeyers5699]

One small complaint is i wish there was a boy and girl twin be interesting to see that dynamic.I also hope there’s a time skip in the series because 9 seems a lil young i guess we’ll see

[@Element30-1]

Kora basically reset the world back to Aangs time and before

[@hunterarnold3577]

If this new series of avatar story happens I can pretty much say it will be a major flop

[@RA_O7440]

You know that the live action actor for aang mentioned you in a cast video I swear I’m not lying

[@faithfullkadan2969]

When you’re a diehard fan, and you’ve gone this long without any new content on top of the heat korra got, I have an entire notepad dedicated to how I imagined the evolution throughout the world of avatar, and in those notepads, I definitely included the possibility of twins. In my notes I have a version of the military except with the new info of how people become avatars I timeskipped to an era which many avatars were born but some could only control 1 to 2 or maybe three elements at a time and they would have to work together in order to create really cool combos, those able to control all four and at least one of the special elements would be seen as generals or captains. There’s no telling where the story will go, and given the level of control these guys have fought to have over their stories, i can’t wait to see what they’ve been sitting on all these years ❤🎉 10:38 I mean not everyone’s read the comics, a there’s a big enough gap between viewers who might not even know there’s comics. I didn’t find out until was out a finished korra that comics were being released, i’m happy that you’re going this route. I just hope we get to see the actual comic books in movie form to fill in that time before korra, how they did our boy Sakka just wasn’t right man😭

[@Orangenkraft]

Honestly, they fucking owe you for still being willing to make videos after how they treated you

[@xenawolfx]

Elaborate??

[@mrtiredeyes]

@@xenawolfx demonitized the first video covering the leaks, hit with a copyright strike

[@trevorbolin4011]

They don’t owe him anything he a fan just like u and me

[@Douglas95]

They should make a avatar from each of the main elements. 🙂

[@thetheorizermoore7476]

I doubt this show will happen and if it does I doubt it will be good

[@mizoik9893]

Honestly this opens up the door to explore the spirit world and set up some concrete rules of how it works with spirits in the real world. Imagine meeting u-bey once more(the panda spirit) And as another comment says please change the title so it represents your point of view, at least add a "No" at the end

[@joshthomasmoorenew]

We can hardly call something bad, like the heavens or twin Avatars, till we see the finer details and we won't know that till we see the show and it explains it for all we know these idea's could be great, so lets wait and see and if its bad then we can complain. Though with the twin Avatars i would be intrested to see if they give them an ability to merge for a short time, like Goku and Vegeta can in Dragon Ball, that could be fun.

[@everlastingvoice808]

Am I the Only One Seing this Dynamic:- A Boy and a Girl began & ended(Kataraang)a Series They also began another (TenzinKorra:-even though he was Married he voiced the Intro till the end😉) and Ended with Two Girls ending the Series(Korrasami) Two Girls began another Series(The Twins:Pavinisha). How Will it End ?

[@TheBeastCH]

Look, I get your point, and yeah, sure, it could be good. But what I've heard and seen so far doesn't really get me excited. If anything, it gets me sceptical. Don't get me wrong, I would love to be proven wrong, and I will give the series a chance to prove me wrong. But for now, I'll be expecting a letdown. Them doing away with the technological progress that came with Korra may be a good idea, since that was pretty unpopular. I didn't mind. It made sense, given the machines that were invented during ATLA. But a lot of people felt like it was bad. I think the bigger problem was that it became so similar to our world. Like, an industrial revolution doesn't have to look like victorian England nor 1920s New York City. That was what made it feel like it was less the world of Avatar than before. Not the fact that there was tech. The fact that the tech looked like 1920s America, rather than Feudal Vaguely-Asia. Introducing the technologies and societal changes, while preserving the aesthetics and vibe and worldbuilding... I'd like to believe it would have been possible, but who knows, maybe 1920s New York with Bending was the best they could do. With that in Mind, I'm worried they're doing Mad Max with bending.

[@emmanueljr.tanduyan8909]

Ancient, medieval is for me still interesting that looking modern...

[@regalbusiness2328]

You are part of the blame. Your leaks and speculations were so egregious of course people are going to be taken aback. If you and the creators have this deal on how to promo their new series and shows, you're doing a terrible job to sell us on this one. Why dont you tell them the public is overwhelming negative because it genuinely sounds like 10 terrible fanfics and comics plunged together.

[@emmanueljr.tanduyan8909]

Probably he is paid so of course he will sugar coat or something..

[@regalbusiness2328]

@@emmanueljr.tanduyan8909he is, he used the same "clean slate" line that the paramount employee said.

[@emmanueljr.tanduyan8909]

@@regalbusiness2328 well people needs money so yeah money matters.

[@yunusgokcen174]

Whatever man, I am not interested in watching it anyway. The og serie was a lightening in a bottle moment.

[@DanielSalava]

Yet you are here commmenting after supposedly having watched the whole video? Hm..

[@yunusgokcen174]

@DanielSalava I clicked the video off quarter way. I don't really care anymore. The last airbender was superior, on par with early Spongebob seasons levels of amazing. But that was a lightening in a bottle, the people who worked on the og Avatar serie long since left before Korra even, they worked well with the creators and balanced each other. That dream team will never reunite, it's done.

[@yunusgokcen174]

@DanielSalava I still like the channel, but I believe we should stop with new Avatar shows if it can't be as good as the og.

[@dr.koupop880]

People seem more concerned about representation than anything else, as usual. I don't know what to expect from this, but from hearing the recap it doesn't seem to interest me too much atm.

[@KarlKarsnark]

In Summary: "Yeah, yeah, I know it looks and sounds terrible......b-b-b-b-b-but Trust me, Bro."

[@goosejuice27]

lmao i barely consider the new stuff they are making canon.

[@tamarabeltranarias]

Gee, sounds like you don't know how to pay attention😢

[@TheEternityForce]

Vaatu and Raava were the worst ideas to happen to franchise. What made the lore so great in the ATLA was we saw only snapshots of the spiritual world. But it was still mysterious with potential, hidden meaning, and depth. Then everything was answered in info dump in LoK, and rather poorly. Thats as if Star Wars and Lord of the Rings revealed every interesting unknown by saying, "oh, two clashing deities is the reason behind the ring/force. The End." Like?? If youre gonna take away the mystique and lure away from the spiritual world, couldnt you have put more originality and thought?? Thats why two twin avatars is the worst idea, since every 12 year old fanfic writer has already written this story.

[@caomhan84]

I just don't like post-apocalyptic stories. I never have. And I don't want to go through the whole thing of another kid. Avatar. Aang was a kid, Korra was a teen. I don't want to do it again. So I don't believe I'll be watching this. Like I said a couple videos back... Most things usually find an audience. I think this will. But I don't believe I'll be among them. Nothing about this gets me excited about watching it.

[@MachinegunTeddy]

Nice . U won't be missed.😊

[@NaylorChild]

​@MachinegunTeddy DUDE, calm down. The owner of the post said in the most respectful way that he isn't interested in New Avatar. That's fine. But don't be toxic to him.

[@trillz7365]

then don’t watch it. do u think they have you in mind when making this show?

[@MachinegunTeddy]

@NaylorChild what makes u think his opinion matters 🤔

[@NaylorChild]

@@MachinegunTeddy What makes you thing that you do?

[@ZedAmadeus]

the art you keep showing for the new show's cities/settlements looks so cool, reminds me of Bastion or other Supergiant Games stuff for some reason I think also it's because the two apocalypses rhyme a little bit in some interesting ways, I've always loved Bastion and Avatar and I like the idea of this type of calamity. I like what it might mean for an avatar who's barely scraping by trying to survive themselves for all that responsibility to be foisted upon them from a young age.

[@Nolan-v3h]

There are some interesting aspects to the upcoming Avatar, But as some people have pointed, all the changes made to the world feel unnecessary. I think it would been interesting to what the outcome of the Earth Kingdom would be once it became a federation. Perhaps it would have collapsed due to there being no legitimate/royal heir, so the Earth Kingdom descends into chaos. Something like that would have been interesting; however some point out that something similar occured in the 3rd season of ATLK, but these are just my thoughts.

[@narniaslan47]

Roku's twin died when they were twelve. Roku learned he was the avatar at sixteen. at this point, it might be safe to assume that his twin brother may have had the ability, but died before he could use the ability.

[@twocents7509]

Ehhh, still don’t like it. What’s the point of the previous two shows constantly saving the world if they just go and destroy all of it anyway. It just feels like they destroyed too much of the original world. If they toned it back a bit, say, Korra had to destroy a significant portion of the earth kingdom to save the rest of the world, I think that would be fine. They would leave enough of the original world for us to still recognize it as avatar, and it would leave an interesting story for the next avatar because the earth kingdom would probably hate the avatar after that (and the next avatar would of course be earth).

[@BestAnimeFreak]

"What’s the point of the previous two shows constantly saving the world if they just go and destroy all of it anyway." I absolutely do not understand this sentiment ... Why fight in World War 1 and 2, when World War 3 just fucks everything up anyway? Because to think that it's fucked in the future anyway, so why bother is such a nihilistic view, that literally nobody who is doing any progress holds it. How many years since the end of ATLA and the beginning of Seven Havens? 200 years? 250 years? So you want to say, that because bad shit happened after that, the previous 240 years where irrelevant? Yeah, Aang should have known that in less than 300 years from his fight against the Phoenix King, that the world is going to go to shits anyway, so he should just have let him genocide the earth kingdom >.> "They would leave enough of the original world for us to still recognize it as avatar" We don't know how the world is going to look like. A simple cave and a person earthbending a door shut is already enough to recognize the world. So it's really not going to be a problem to recognize the world. "because the earth kingdom would probably hate the avatar after that" And now the entire world potentially hates the avatar ... especially if there are two and one of them is the dark avatar, which appeared once in history and was literally evil ... so the avatar can be blamed for the end of the world (which you ironically are already doing).

[@twocents7509]

@ I think you misunderstand me, I’m talking about why do this from a writing perspective. When writers just keep the setting in turmoil you start to wonder if the protagonists method is even working. Take Batman for example, it just retells stories of Gotham in turmoil over and over and you don’t really see any progress with the city (except in the Christopher Nolan trilogy). It’s a trope in writing that I dislike because it makes it feel like you’re just watching the same story again and again. Now, you can still have the characters constantly needing to save their setting, but personally I don’t think you should halt progress or go completely backwards throughout your entire setting for the sake of that plot. If you want to use real world examples, then even during ww1 and ww2 there was overall progress in the world, it wasn’t reduced to Armageddon. Our world became better and continued to get better after… also, aang basically woke up in an Armageddon world, so it feels like it’s redoing that a bit. As for the comment about people hating the avatar, I was just showing how there could still be a compelling story without destroying the entire world. I’m aware that this story line could exist either way, and I think that would be interesting. I’m not blaming the avatar, I am saying the world/earth kingdom might blame the avatar as part of the story. Also, it’s a bit much to assume that someone isn’t in a field of progress just because of one post on KZbin or one viewpoint. I’m actually looking to get into progressing technology once I have my doctorate in physics and I currently work in physics research.

[@regalbusiness2328]

@@twocents7509 also if the avatar world is supposed to mirror the real life world, why the hell do they see it as a desolate wasteland not worth saving? Why even invest in their next works like the movies when the world is going to be blown up anyways with and I quote "lightning storms everywhere" and dark spirits running amok? This man speaking in the video is a super glazer and a paid shill atp. Pay him no mind with major copium, there's nothing for avatar stans to look forward to atp.

[@cungzjohnjohn122]

They should have followed the Legend Of Genji

[@93pants93]

Nah I’m not a fan of anything I’ve heard about this new series to many changes, it’s not gunna be good. I love korra but I’m aware of some of her flaws, this new series sounds like it’s going to ruin the avatar franchise

[@lucasschmidt3983]

Thumbs up just for your intro. Thanks for the solid overview!

[@WeebGuru6]

Don’t use raava & vaatu bro that ain’t gonna help😂😂😂😂 I agree with ur reasoning though

[@newhybrid101]

I mean they are part of the lore now.

[@WeebGuru6]

@ do u know people who like them

[@newhybrid101]

​@@WeebGuru6Not really,but you cant ignore major parts of the lore. The fact is,that Raava is the light within the Avatar State that we always saw. So if they have the Avatar State appear then it cant be ignored

[@WeebGuru6]

@@newhybrid101 I’m saying don’t use those 2 to help ur argument cuz no one likes those 2 should’ve used the lion turtles

[@newhybrid101]

​@@WeebGuru6I get you but the lion turtles themselves were just plot devices at the last second

[@pixywings]

OK, Just because the main character is a child does not mean the story is going to be childish. I mean... For example, you've heard of "The Shining" Right? The main character a five-year-old boy. But I sure as heck would not want any five-year-old to hear that story or see that movie! My main concern actually is that they will make the show a bit too "Woke".

[@wambokodavid7109]

Here we go with buzz words🙄🙄

[@burisleifwenden1784]

This reminds me of the infamous Star Wars The Acolyte also has twins.

[@theanimator6890]

Wait Nisha and pavi are the avatars after Korra like after Korra died right? Shouldn't the twins be boys or one is a boy since the cycle thing or is that part of the cycle also been screwed up also I'm hoping the story is about Nisha and pavi unlocking the past lives

[@vilmublues752]

The avatar's gender is completely random.

[@rickboy50000]

that show how much people hated Korra show i just hate how the avatar state was restarted and the romance got in the way of the show sometimes plus it could have been used for grow instead of what ever that was

[@joekyle6594]

I'm definitely willing to give this a shot and I think it's silly to form an opinion about a show this far before it's even released, but for me personally, I'm not a fan of the post-apocalyptic direction. In a vacuum, sure, a post-apocalyptic fantasy series where you have some old steampunk tech thrown in sounds really cool. But for me personally, a big appeal of ATLA's setting as always been that, for the most part, it's a fairly realistic and nuanced setting in terms of the geopolitics, just with bending and spirits thrown in. It's neat to see a world that evolves similarly to ours but with the addition of a hard magic system, and I'd personally much rather explore what that setting looks like as it moves into a world where the old monarchies and "traditional" systems in Aang's time are increasingly challenged and undermined by the emergence of more "modern" forces, like liberal democracy, revolutionary politics, and anti-imperialism. You get a bit of that in Korra, but it's very limited IMO. The Earth Kingdom dissolving into a bunch of sovereign states all competing for influence and/or a cold war of sorts between the United Republic and Fire Nation would've made for really fascinating story options, for instance, as would seeing how modern countries deal with access to the Spirit World and spirits more generally. Hell, I think there's a lot they could've done regarding mechanized environmental destruction and how that affects a world in which spirits embodying aspects of nature are so prevalent. Sending everything back to the stone age feels not only like it eliminates that really fascinating setting, but it also eliminates the storytelling potential of a more "modern" ATLA world that really grapples with the ideological confrontations I think Korra only ever really scratched the surface of. That said, if they can make the new series' politics feel like a natural "evolution" of Korra's, I'd be more for it. Like if the city-states are also accompanied by a variety of warlords, surviving breakaway states, and remnants of the nations prevalent in the past series (basically, instead of "reseting" the ATLA world, give it a heavy beating but stop short of a complete destruction), I'd be more open to the setting they're going for. It's not the direction I would've gone for, but applying societal breakdown and what an apocalypse would realistically be like to ATLA sounds neat.

[@LS-tk7hp]

honestly this video sums up my criticism to this channel. i think its awfully optimistic takes full of copium... lets be real most of the times franchises are handled isnt great and TLOK was a full on confirmation. even lies like TLOK being more mature than ATLA... it really isnt. not to say its not mature at all but TLOK fans have this nag of having to brag whatever from TLOK being better or more extreme than in ATLA. "ATLA has already told so many stories in the four nations that its hard to have new settings in this story" ? what a weird take, the setting offers a lot more than was made of it. that being said the one thing i agree on is TLOKs tech not mergin well with the world ,which in theory isnt an inherent problem but a writing problem, atla also managed to implement bending besides combat in the four nations, but i agree that lower tech just suits this world better and bending is a big reason why its not needed. i dont think an apocalypse is the answer tho, basically destroying what aang fought so hard for with the next avatar... meh... and no ones saying that everything would be dandy after atla, history obviously moves in chapters and aang fought for one of peace that should and could very well last a while. avatar kuruk barely did anything because there was no need for it. therefore you should fry TLOK for assuming its the opposite and theres always some new world destroying level threat every other year... that makes a lot less sense

[@KyleJPie10]

A lot of people are genuinely interested in where the show might go and aren't throwing hissy fits over details that barely have any context. That's not copium, that's just being level headed and reasonable.

[@crymaker9628]

@@KyleJPie10 sure alot of people are interested.. thats why alot are saying its gonna be bad right XD

[@KyleJPie10]

@@crymaker9628 If all you're looking for is validation then that's all you're going to see, yeah. But there's an equal amount of people that are looking forward to it.

[@BestAnimeFreak]

@@crymaker9628 Loud minority ... for fucks sake, those are leaks ... anyone having any strong opinion of the show, because of random ass leaks is an idiot. To think you can judge a show, by concept art is infantile idiocy ...

[@magneticanomaly810]

Yoooo, so question for y'all. Was Vaatu destroyed before or after Kora refused with Raava using Harmonic Convergence? Because if it was before, and Vaatu was part of Raava when they re-emerged, then Vaatu could be merged as well, and the Avatar cycle will include both from now on

[@oywiththepoodlesalready]

Vatuu cannot be destroyed. Darkness cannot exist without the light and vice versa. Korra found Raava within Vatuu, but only fused with Raava. Vatuu and Raava cannot be one, they are two parts of a whole, Yin and Yang. Vatuu still has potential to fuse with someone, just as the cycle with Raava continues.

[@magneticanomaly810]

@oywiththepoodlesalready I know all this. Did you not read my question at all?

[@joesunday199]

@@magneticanomaly810 Vaatu is inside Raava. Not fused with Korra. He'd have to be formed in order to fuse with Korra.

[@chrislukas959]

I find it interesting how much concern there was about the original creatures leaving the Netflix show when Korra wasn't good. They made one good show and one ok show, I didn't necessarily have higher hopes with or without them. To be clear atla is my favorite show ever, I just don't think they proved with Korra that they're able to capture that greatness more than once

[@superemoboi2050]

Yeah, they kind of captured lightning in a bottle with ATLA. No pun intended.

[@S____na-z4p]

Is it confirmed? And if it is where can I find the audition thing?

[@rumpytumskin9691]

Twins, just like the Acolyte. Please don't suck. I like older Avatars like Kora.

[@SenseiFaneto-b7q]

Don’t let the door hit ya where Rava split ya ✌🏿

[@simplyepic3258]

You're already judging and putting undue expectations on a show before it even gets announced. Either give it a fair chance or do everyone a favor and ignore it.

[@asimhussain8716]

@@simplyepic3258 "please don't be bad" is judging? Lol yall are so soft

[@simplyepic3258]

@@asimhussain8716 First sentence is comparing it to another show that was widely trashed on, purely on the basis of both having twin main characters. Second sentence is assuming there's a high chance of it sucking which prompts the commenter to beg it not to suck. Third sentence is ascribing the show lower quality purely on the basis of the age of the main characters. The entire comment is judgmental of a show that hasn't even been announced yet.

[@asimhussain8716]

@@simplyepic3258 Who cares if he's referencing another show? Who cares that he doesn't want it to suck? Who cares if he likes the older series? No, the only one being judgemental is you lol. You're soft, both emotionally and in the head.

[@katelynhalt5192]

I'm here for it!! I'm gonna watch it either way so I'm choosing to go in optimistic

[@regalbusiness2328]

Also who died and made you king of the fandom? Wrdgaf 💀

[@angelwitch25]

That art about Omashu is just epic! The concept of the four nations being gone but not forgotten I think is a bold and epic step forward and I love it. The constraints of the four nations in Korra always bothered me, that why I never minded that the spirit portals opened. The world should be free to choose their own path and not be forced to conform to what was. I think the breaking of the world hits to close for some people since we are seeing that happen in our own. Avatar has always been about hope and maybe people are just worried this new avatar world will be like the real one where most people believe there is no hope. Last note: great job with this vid, I hope you continue the great work!

[@ChrisPTY507]

More retcons are coming… Good grief….

[@cprado1234]

I can't wait to watch it

[@KuroTheDesigner]

Hold on a sec did you just say two NINE year old kids?? That alone is enough for me to drop this from a must watch to a 1 episode watch, the chances imma find any story involving two literal kids interesting is low, this might be a "its just not for me" moment

[@jamariwhyte6889]

Calm down action over words let's just see first is there any shows with very young man characters but they are mature like Naruto and Dragan ball well when I there are most censored of the time in anime form but the original source material is more darker look at x men 97 its for everyone but it's still more for an older audience is there a lot of things that can make the show more popular than the plot like animation just imagine the power system of bending what's sakuga level of animation it will attract anyone

[@JaySeraphon]

As far as I am concerned, Bryan and Michael made 2 amazing series, and I am eagerly awaiting the 3rd Avatar series!

[@KamiAnimeS1]

I definitely don’t like it

[@nicod1ang3lo]

Do we have a release date?

[@CraftyJit]

Nope, just leak, but after adult aang movie

[@nicod1ang3lo]

@ k thx

[@KarlKarsnark]

The "Post-Apocalyptic" trope is just as tropey as the "Chose One" trope. This is just Nickelodeon doing "Mad Max" for a "Modern(tm)" audience.........beyond cringe.

[@ThePrincessCH]

@@KarlKarsnark I don't think Nickelodeon is going to be the one broadcasting it.

[@simplyepic3258]

There is a very big issue recently of people hating heavily on shows before the shows even come out. It is a very bad issue and it NEEDS to stop. Let shows tell the story they want to tell. If someone doesn't like the story, then they should just quietly walk away and pay no more attention to it. Intentionally trying to ruin something that people enjoy is a bad thing that bad people do.

[@joesunday199]

You are implying that those that don't like the direction this are intentionally trying to "ruin" something that others might enjoy. However, that isn't what everyone who wants aspects of this changed think. They want to change it for the better so more people can enjoy it. Fans critique everything in fandom. Imagine if the Sonic the Hedgehog movie didn't get the criticism it deserved for Sonic's OG CGI design. Sonic would have looked a whole lot worse and less people would have enjoyed it. Sometimes it takes an outside perspective to reveal what's actually wrong with something.

[@simplyepic3258]

@ so is your issue with the character design? Because that's just about the only think we have any idea about. We have vague whispers about some plot points, but nothing solid enough to build a proper critique from. The people hating on this based on the leaks are just haters. They don't have a well-formed critique because there's not enough information yet to actually form a critique.

[@joesunday199]

@@simplyepic3258 That's not true. We are gong with all information given from the "leaks". How much is even needed to critique is debatable anyway. Whether it's bringing back Vaatu or the destruction of the "Old World" those are sticking points for fans. You don't have to agree. Feel free not to. But, don't act like fans that don't like what they see are simply "haters". That isn't to say some fans don't take it too far. There will always be that group. But, there are more than just "haters" or "apologists".

[@RukiMoogle]

Avatar is starting to go Star Wars it seems, guess lightning can't strike twice.

[@deathab0ve]

2:40 Yea correct, it did. This has been a Korra Hate point for a long time, and I personally like Korra.

[@mrtiredeyes]

I still just dont trust the leaked source. I dont think it's a stretch to think someone made fake leaks into a whole project. Just take real leaks, combine them with fanmade leaks, boom the whole world has been tricked. I hate that the creators haven't said anything 😭

[@mrtiredeyes]

Are the creators staying quiet because -leaks are real and they're watching our reactions? -Know the leaks aren't all true and staying silent because they can't reveal the plot by picking out the lies? Either way Bryke neeeeeeds to address this. They do a wonderful job at avatar and will always go a great job. We're in a state of disbelief because we don't even know if this is all real (on my end)

[@Above.immortality]

The leaks were literally removed due to copyright bro, if it's not true why would this happen

[@mrtiredeyes]

@mehdibengdara4297 because 1. There is actual copyright content being distributed (like the Korra models) 2. It is being done in the name of an existing IP, and anyone pretending to be a pre-existing company gets punished as such I could obviously be wrong it's just ehhhhh what if this is all a red herring, you know? We have very few actual leaks of the new show it seems

[@Dateofbirthis2028]

I hate how the creators just stay quiet and don’t tell us anything. 😭 it eats me up because I’m so curious on what the actual plot is going to be

[@mrtiredeyes]

And just to add, any longtime avatar fan would neverrrrr just leak everything. So I don't trust the leaker's intentions to begin with. (Yes, I know they were an employee not a fan, but what disgrace!) That's where I'm coming from here

[@MalonzeProductionsGaming]

Im excited for the new game. Im excited for adult aang. But this? This earth bender show sounds absolute trash. Even my other friends who adore avatar said they are all gonna skip it.

[@Baronspro]

WAKE UP HE UPLOADED

[@Thebig_KC]

You know the writers if the new show were under no obligation to make the new Avatar series follow the Legends of Korra... Especially if they are going with this Seven Heaven storyline but what do you know. They could have easily pushed the series to a few Avatars after and that would have made these drastic changes make sense.

[@tychobotter]

I really hate this new take on avatar. I hate that they do twins, they destroy korra and its gets so far away from they vibe of the last airbender or even korra.

[@Testsubjex]

What I want to see from the twins is the Twin that gor Raava go on the typical avatar Journey but along the way she starts to become more evil and the Twin with Vatuu is the one who is a better person I think that would make for a great story the twins having opposite spirits of their personality

[@Bohnerriffic69]

Most of The people complaining are new YOUNG avatar Fans who think they know everything and who watched the Fanmade project "The Legend of Genji" Personally I'm okay with the Show being aimed at kids. Kids nowadays need something Like avatar. PLUS I'm pretty sure the movies are going to be more aimed at Adult fans.

[@BraydonAttoe-xs4yg]

The writers broke atla lore with korra, ravaa etc.. and now they are breaking the crappy korra lore with this slop. Tbh i dont care much anymore. But how tf is a single soul (ravaa) able to split into two people? It makes zero sense stop trying to convince yourself otherwise... they literally just said lets make them twins just because. Lets do it just for marketing and hype. Then retcon and write around it

[@joesunday199]

Your first part isn't true. LOK didn't "break" ALTA lore. The second part seems actually somewhat accurate. Splitting Raava with Twins wouldn't make any sense.

[@stevenjacks8871]

Well said. I'm looking forward to this show.

[@BABAFEMI111]

I think Korra uses spirit bending to calm vengeful spirits, essentially purifying them into spirit energy that is then sent back to the spirit world. This means she never absorbed Vaatu. Additionally, two individuals cannot be the Avatar at the same time because Raava cannot be split. Raava is already one half of a single entity, with Vaatu being the other half. Since Vaatu was already dealt with by Korra, it makes no sense for there to be two Avatars simultaneously. Another issue is the concept of the Avatar cycle. If I remember correctly, there should only be one female Avatar within a single cycle. For example, Kyoshi was the only female Avatar in Aang’s cycle, and the same applies to the female monk Avatar in the cycle before that. Korra is the first Avatar of her cycle, and based on the established lore, she should be the only female Avatar of her cycle. While it might sound sexist, this is how the creators originally wrote it. The creators of the new Avatar series shouldn’t break existing lore to create a story. While The Legend of Korra did tweak certain elements, they were minor changes that didn’t directly contradict Aang’s story. Furthermore, the original series didn’t delve deeply into Avatar lore, which gave Korra’s creators more room to expand. However, this new series has a solid foundation of lore already laid out, so changes that contradict it feel unnecessary. Based on what I’m hearing, it seems like they’re straying too far from what’s been established.