We NEED to talk about this MLP Redesign || Commentary + Speedpaint || tiktok art lore ||

Hello everyone, this video about this My Little Pony redesign has been on my mind for a very long time. And the time for me to share my opinion has come. If you don’t agree with me, it doesn’t really matter to me. Just let's try to be a little bit nicer. And share some support to the original creator Magda! Hope you enjoy the video!
Music:
✧ Animal Crossing: New Horizons - 2 am
✧ Wave Goodbye (instrumental) - Splatoon3
✧ Daybreaker Anthem (instrumental) - Splatoon3
Programs:
✧ Editing: Adobe Premiere Pro 2023
✧ Art: Procreate
Timestamps:
✧ Intro- 0:00
✧ My Initial Thoughts- 0:51
✧ The Normalization of Bullying- 2:28
✧ Clout Chasing & Trends- 4:03
✧ The Term Forced Representation- 6:12
✧ Defeminization of the characters- 8:45
✧ Pinkie Pie: 10:45
✧ Rarity - 11:48
✧ Dear Art Community - 13:31
✧ Outro- 15:51
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[@inkiio]

"give me a definition of forced representation that isn't racist fatphobic or ableist" YOU ATE WITH THAT ONE I FEAR

[@octoinkz]

I only speak the truth 🫡

[@goontender_lowercase.]

Actually i feel like as a queer and disabled artist forced representation does exist in the form of tokenism.

[@octoinkz]

@@goontender_lowercase. sure it does but this wasn’t really the case here

[@goontender_lowercase.]

@@octoinkz yeah but i genuinely hate token characters.

[@died897]

​@@goontender_lowercase. oh definitely! the classic “we included a minority character but we're not going to develop/give them an interesting personality at all and we will get them out of the story at the soonest possible chance but hey guys look we're so ✨inclusive✨”. y'know, the kind of people who just do it for the internet points n stuff and don't genuinely care for these groups. While it's most certainly an issue, I think it's important to use the proper term for cases like that, which is tokenism, rather than “forced representation”, as the latter is used almost exclusively by people with the wrong intentions. To quote a comment I saw on Instagram today, “We cannot let bigoted people dictate the language around these conversations”!

[@parker4591]

People don’t understand that just because something has good representation doesn’t mean it’s “woke”. I personally don’t see the mane 6 like those designs- but it’s not because of the representation- it’s just because my idea of the ponies is different than this artist’s- and that’s ok!

[@octoinkz]

Exactly! Respect is key!

[@Bucket_Theman]

As a black person, that image doesn’t have “good representation” it’s kinda racist.. brown people and black women have been characterized as fat, and manly for years, the artists intent might not have been racist, but the end result is.. I’m not justifying people making fun of the art, but it’s kinda racist man

[@octoinkz]

@@Bucket_Theman I don’t think it was meant to be that way, I just think it was executed poorly. But of course I cannot speak over you, since I am not black. So I get what ur saying and respect your thoughts!

[@RuneGacha]

Same with me!

[@Ayumu-nd9qr]

I agree so much

[@barbararab6390]

One thing i genuenly hate is that people take some headcanons for the characters (like pinkie pie being black) as fact and attack anyone that doesnt draw her as such. Pinkie is pretty ambiguous, some people can interpret her as being black, others interpret her as having an amish family line (her family in the show seem to be amish inspired in a way). And yet people will bash anyone that draws her as the second version. Its hypocrisy. If people are allowed to draw pinkie as black, then they should also be ok with her being drawn as white. She is a pink pony whos "human race" was never specified, it isnt like race swapping in that case since there was never one.

[@octoinkz]

I agree

[@starznova]

As someone who headcannons Pinkie Pie as black, I genuinely don't understand why people get so flamed for not making Pinkie Pie black.

[@barbararab6390]

@@starznova people dont know the difference between headcanon and canon

[@alexvalentine5091]

I mean even her human eg design has pink skin

[@JomyWolf]

Ive seen both black and white designs pretty for pinkie, though i see her more as a white readhead, doesn’t mean im gonna go hate someone because they made her different of what i imagined, I’ve seen many people on both sides hating each other , I saw someone i used to follow that said “if you don’t draw pinkie as black,block me” 🫤🤨and I’ve seen artist on twitter when they draw her white someone goes with the meme”why are you white?” Everyone has a different interpretation of the ponies and that’s fine, people may not like all the designs and that’s fine too, it’s just your interpretation of what you imagined how they look like, people/artists should stop this fight about how they should be in a “humanized” version, at the end, their are still ponies, colorful ponies

[@cinnamonspiders]

the fact that the name of the show is “my little pony: FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC” and yet people are still awful like this in this fandom did mlp teach them nothing

[@octoinkz]

Literally

[@Trish707]

They turned FiM into FiT, Which also means Friendship is Tragic

[@bowser3017]

Come on, mlp popularity come from 4chan

[@Azulabetta553-sj1ho]

If I remember (I haven’t seen MLP in years) isn’t there a literal ep making fun of the fandom? I loved that ep

[@shirendjorgee9320]

@@bowser3017exactly. The fandom already came from toxic roots

[@thespookyghost5723]

Idk but the thumbnail makes me laugh. It's just Alastor stands out so much. He's just hanging out with a bunch of pony girls and he looks so happy about it. 😂

[@thatdemidragonplayz307]

I need to watch this to find out why alastor was just chillin there

[@BossyBot]

LMFAOOOO I LITERALLY DIDNT EVEN REALIZE HE WAS THERE THAT WAS A JUMPSCARE

[@Alastor_slays66]

lol

[@wspdude]

no one is talking about that for som reason💀

[@gengen112]

LMFOAAOOAIOIDA WHILE I WAS SCROLLING I HAD TO DO A DOUBLE TAKE ON TTE THUMBNAIL DNBDNDNNDNSUOS

[@windsmith4048]

I will say, lanky fluttershy feels right. In the show, we see that young fluttershy had very long legs, just like real foals, so a fluttershy being lanky made sense. She would use her height to feed all the squirrels and birds.

[@AL13NS1LLY]

I headcannon she would be the tallest and pinkie would be extremely short

[@windsmith4048]

@@AL13NS1LLY i can see that

[@starletnight2849]

@@AL13NS1LLY Pinkie’s a lil gremlin with god-like powers for some reason She just bends time for fun But all jokes aside, I do see Pinkie on the shorter, broader side, but actually quite athletic in build from all the exercise she does from how much she’s bouncing and zipping across the screen, she’s gotta be pretty fit to do that without even breaking a sweat.

[@nimzay_art]

I def didn't like the mane 6 redesigns, only Fluttershy was the only one l loved, but just bc l didn't like it doesn't mean lm gonna hate and harass the poor artist, we just see stuff different and THAT'S OK. People are so toxic, they gotta chill.

[@octoinkz]

Exactly

[@eeeEEEeeeEEEEEE-eeeeeee]

I like the pinkie and rarity design

[@Glorp-the-goober]

Me too I don’t really like how they portrayed rarity🤷🏻‍♀️ but people need to stop being baby’s and realize it’s someone else’s way of seeing characters, not theirs

[@Anna-hy4sb]

@@Glorp-the-gooberSame,Rarity Is Like Def White And I Can’t Rlly See Why They Hc Her As A Dwarf,But I Still Support This Artist Bc It’s My Opinion:)

[@StarberriiLove]

Yeah, I think they were pretty ugly personally but people are ridiculously overreacting

[@artsrandomstuff436]

I think I'm really lucky my first introduction to the art was someone's video being "legitimately critiquing Magda's designs" which legitimately helpful advice like working on perspective, making the limbs more proportional, soft changes to the pose. Just actual advice for a beginner artist.

[@octoinkz]

That’s amazing

[@koheirichan]

Can you send the link please? i can't seem to find it anywhere

[@Pudding_Bun27]

A bit off topic , but when I saw the thumbnail and I didn't see Rarity at first I was like : "Oh , that's weird , where's Rarity ?" And then I noticed Alastor and I was like "RARITY TURNED INTO ALASTOR ???"

[@shirendjorgee9320]

“Darling, let’s begin”

[@kaorimeri8429]

People are so mean for no reason ESPECIALLY on tiktok,let people have their own versions of the main 6,skin color and body shape shouldnt matter when people are making their OWN interpretations with THEIR headcanons on them that isnt a cookie cutter skinny body with light skin

[@GamingPandaCat]

twitter was rage farming, everyone got addicted to arguing online, now that its unusable and tiktok is even worse with addiction, its the new "social square" and we're dragging every bad thing along.

[@Cupid_thekitty]

The art is adorable. Also from the fact that their horses, horses of all sizes exist too. If you were to turn that version rarity back into a horse she'd probably be a mini pony or something. (And yes I know she's supposed to have dwarfism in the art) When I see art that's redesigning animals to be humans, I usually think, how would this work in their animal forms. (It helps how I understand how the art works since I only draw animals) plus pinkie looks like someone I would be happy to accept a hug from, she just had that welcoming feel to her in the art.

[@Dip-Star-1489]

For me, whenever I humanize animal characters and figure out the skintone, I usually check if the fur’s color tone to see if the skin should be warm, cool or neutral toned, the shade of color used to show how dark/light I should make the skin, and the characters reference to their cultural identity, or simply check out the voice actor. For example, if I were to humanize Rarity, she would have a pale skin with a cool tone and be of French descent. Another example would be if I redesigned Applejack to have a warm toned, “honey” skin (don’t get why skin tones are named after food, that’s just the closest skintone I could find) with Texan roots.

[@shirendjorgee9320]

I lowkey feel like Rarity has the proportions of a non-little person just scaled down rather than the proportions people with dwarfism actually have though

[@Cupid_thekitty]

@@shirendjorgee9320 I can see that as well however the artist is a beginner, and is still learning.

[@theevilbean]

People like this always choose "unflattering" looking drawings to prove their stupid point, because if they said these things about a more polished drawing it would be obvious what they're actually upset about...

[@Acorn905]

Thank you! ^^ I always saw Pinkie as a thin white girl since that's just how i imagined her as a kid but that doesn't mean someone else seeing her differently gives me a reason to say racist or judgmental things. It's so easy to not be a jerk to other people's opinions dang ('TvT)

[@peanutfrogy9087]

yeah i magine pinkie as white and twilight as indian

[@underoakss]

Didn't watch the video yet, and just seeing those redesigns for the first time - I think they're so cute!! Applejack especially is gorgeous, Fluttershy is a mood. Gonna give more thoughts when I finish watching, just wanted to give my first impressions haha Edit: finished watching, unfortunately it's not surprising, tiktok is very toxic. I just hope the artist is okay, I love their redesigns and I'm so sorry they're getting harassed like that. We really have to do better :/

[@octoinkz]

Yes! I think the designs are cute

[@archivedchaos00256]

im an artist. im also white, of average weight for my height, and not physically disabled. when i started out drawing, all the humans i'd draw were plain, basic, boring, and they were all young able-bodied white girls like i was at the time. today, ive been drawing for over a decade now, and ive also come out as LGBT+, come to terms with my diagnosed neurodivergence, and my father who im very close with has become an amputee. ive also met lots of people who are so different than me who had different experiences than my own, and i became friends with them. ive subconsciously been using them as inspiration, and ive realised, i just find it so fun to draw characters who are different from not just me but from basically every popular character out there. i only started branching out and really practicing how to draw different kinds of people within the last few years, but something ive noticed is its so much more fulfilling to do so, my characters dont feel plain anymore, they have interesting designs. most of this is from me growing my own skills over the years and understanding how better to use aspects of a design to my advantage, but meeting people firsthand who were different from myself and characters i see online, who were also artists and drew characters like i'd rarely seen before. they inspired me to be creative and embrace difference unlike the society around me taught me, and i couldnt be happier with my art. and i also get so happy seeing others doing the same, drawing people who are different. it makes me happy, im not part of most minorities that really need more representation, but i still feel a sense of pride getting to see them get the positive rep they deserve. i wish difference was normalised. sorry for the long paragraph pfft, but thank you OctoInkz for making this video, it really voiced a lot of concerns i had about the general populace online and how we all treat each other, and hearing your words made me feel not alone.

[@octoinkz]

Yes! This is something all artists should strive for! I loved hearing about your art journey! Keep on drawing!

[@ErnestSmurf]

I'm a concept artist, so seeing 5-10 different designs of the same character is pretty common to me. Sometimes, I just want to create a character with a walking stick, it's not every concept, it's not forced, I just want too and it can be pretty common. Plus, I see a lot of double standards with the people who moan about the 'forced inclusivity' redesigns, a lot of the time people love and may even overuse things like vitiligo or heterochromia but then b//// about a character being fat/black/etc. I really don't understand it. It's just another reason for me to never make a TikTok account. I, honestly, adore seeing how other people interpret a character. The design may not be my cup of tea, but the artist has put a lot of effort into their work and I'll always respect that. Plus, I think of it as pretty good inspo. I may not use the idea for those characters because that's just not how I may view them but a project down the line I could. And if you don't like the art style, then you can just ignore it- close the page- go onto the next post- anything other than bash the artist for something that doesn't and never will affect you. If you really must say something, then do so in a matter that is constructive, not destructive, you never know, their art could in fact closely correlate with their mental health or a fragile desire to get into a hobby. Overall, I love seeing redesigns because it's so similar and inspiring for my own works. And I truly hope that people can one day grow up and that they don't scare away hopeful artists before then. (Sorry, this was a bit of a rant...)

[@octoinkz]

Don’t say sorry! And yes I totally agree with you! Thanks for your comment it was very insightful!

[@Emilia-ks7gd]

the term “forced representation” has always rubbed me the wrong way bc even if was a thing… why would it matter??? like why is that a bad thing??

[@SaintCharlos]

It's just cringe to use minorities for diversity points. A clear example is tokenism.

[@Many_Fandoms]

This is exactly why I don’t like TikTok cause in that app it’s just toxicity and hate like everyone is a beginner when they start art or something and the internet is usually harsh about that like what you said! When I posted a video about my drawings I didn’t get any hate or backlash from people they were all nice but seeing others getting bullied by their art or how they draw is just messed up specially how almost everyone gets upset when they see a different color people or disable people. I’m not exactly in the art community but people do really need to stop the hate towards beginner artists specially how TikTok literally normalized bullying and harassment towards creators

[@starznova]

I left TikTok a few weeks ago and my mental health has gotten so much better because the bullying and horrible things are finally not being shoved down my throat.

[@Many_Fandoms]

@@starznova That’s good that you did that! And I’m glad that your mental health got better

[@peggsnbacon]

I can't believe we're still begging people not to act like bullies on the internet in 2024!! How has it only gotten worse!! Please just let artists share their art in peace :(

[@Karm_a_mraK]

No one is obligated to find any art piece beautiful, but it baffles me that these people have the audacity to call an art piece bad for depcting people that they personally don't find appealing. Makes you see how they see the people irl that don't fit their personal ideas of beauty. I think this art is actually really cool, the art style was actually detailed and I can't imagine the ammount of effort the artist did on the art, it's sad that it got so much hate. Your art was great too 💕

[@haleyv6450]

If i can be so for real, i dont care about their weight or color, i just never even liked the offical human designs in equestria girls. I just dont find that their pony designs translate well to humans, but thats just me. If people wanna make more designs of them that way, pop off honestly.

[@leviholt4557]

Right? The EG characters just don't reflect them as well as in the pony world and just about everyone who made their own versions did it so much better

[@jaderoze9156]

Honestly I didn't like the Magda image at first because to me it looked like it was making fun of representation. After I realized it wasn't I just didn't see the characters in it so I still don't like it but the racism and other hate is not warranted.

[@barbararab6390]

Same, it just looked like it was making fun of actual rep redesigns. They didnt look at all like the characters

[@The_average_ye11ow]

I actually really like this artist’s interpretation of the characters. I know that a lot of hard work probably went into creating them. The internet just loves to hate on art when it isn’t what they deem "normal" or “good enough.” If anything, Be helpful when critiquing someone’s art not hateful. (I totally agree with all the points you made in the video)

[@candycorn914]

ppl arent making fun of them for being a "beginner artist," the art itself isn't bad, no one is talking about that lol

[@octoinkz]

I’ve seen a lot it 😭

[@b3nt079]

No, I've seen a lot people bully the art style itself, or even commenting on their art that's completely unrelated to the MLP redesigns and going "Oh, the art has always been bad .." So it's definitely people bullying them for being a beginner artist on top of bullying them for designs that really shouldn't personally offend anyone as they are a singular person's interpretation of characters who are pastel pink.

[@mothmaniel]

i hate the idea that women can't "look like men". it's inherently transphobic. who cares if this fictional character you don't have to look at is slightly more masculine? who cares if this random transwoman in public whom you're never gonna see again in your life has an adam's apple? or large muscles or a sharp jawline?? that doesn't make her any less of a woman and the idea that someone is gross for looking less feminine than the white standard is disgusting. i don't see pinkie pie looking like this personally, but i still think that the design is cute because there are real people who do look this way and dress this way, and they're just as beautiful as any other

[@ogFuffymika]

Im just gonna say it. Wanting to end things like racism, being A LEGIT decent person regardless of body type, race, gender, culture, etc. That's not woke. Forced inclusion like adding a single Asian, black, etc. Person in a full white cast THAT'S woke. You're not doing it to be kind or nice, you're doing it to say you're techinally not racist, and yes like this person said people with disabilities snd different body types exist, "surprise" this aint barbie land or an anime. It's real life get over yourself and just learn that it's ok.

[@pasta5445]

Exactly!! Way too many people are using the term "forced diversity" when it's just a group that happens to be diverse. Real forced diversity is when they feel the need to meet some imaginary quota of skin tones, sizes, ect. So forced diversity is a real thing. It's just most people don't understand the real defenition.

[@VerySourTaste]

7:00 SO TRUE!!! Even my brain has been wired like this from regular media, shows, movies, etc. People will subconsciously think of white characters as the "default" character, when it shouldn't be that way. When I see group of white characters/ocs, I don't think much of it, but when I see a groups of poc characters/ocs, my brain for some reason has to think about it for a second because we're so conditioned to believe that there's such a thing as a "default" when it comes to ocs and stuff. This is something that I'm aware of and it's not a big problem I have, but it's just scary that simply growing up with the regular media you're shown (the media with lack of diversity, especially in the past) can change your mind in this way. DIVERSITY IS SO IMPORTANT!!! (but not forced diversity because that's soulless)

[@bezierballad8852]

Pointing out the flaws in someone's art while offering constructive criticism isn't bad on its own. But pointing at it and ruthlessly mocking it? Not cool.

[@GraveyardMaiden]

Honestly force representation is when a creator/creators include minorities/ people from marginalized groups into a piece without doing the care and research to portray them accurately and respectfully, while claiming to be representing those groups. Representation goes beyond just looks.

[@pasta5445]

As a leftist, I acknowledge that most people who complain about forced rep are just whatever-phobic. BUT: it is possible to force it. I want people to make art of characters how they see them. But way too often I see people make characters a certain way only because they feel they need more diversity of whatever kind. It's nice when characters have a range of skin colors, but don't make a character black only because you see the rest as lighter. It's just more enjoyable and genuine when people draw characters how they see them, and most of the time people see the mane 6 as a very diverse group, and that's great!!

[@acadiac7420]

hey! i dont think people are saying pinkie pie and twilight look manly because they're black, but maybe because twilight looks like a famous male actor because of her features, her pose, her jaw, etc. i dont know how ppl see pinkie pie looking manly but ive seen people compare twilight to a white man in the same position as her. its not my take, just what ive seen from people on tiktok!

[@octoinkz]

Yeah I guess but it’s still kinda icky and I’ve seen some people being plain Racist 😭

[@UnkownCensored-ys6wb]

I feel bad for the creator honestly..... I personally not a fan of the redesigns but I don't hate it because I see some light in them and there are some aspects I personally like =) Tbh , the art community especially on Tiktok is already tiring me out. I hate the fact that racism is normalized like bro , what can you do about some people who are black ? There are like 13.6% of us are black , what can you do about it???? I'm a mixed race just to clear things. The fatphobia was really painful tbh. I may not see Pinkie Pie as fat , I see here as someone a little bit fat or rounded , but this is unaacetable.

[@Snek86]

Why are people so horrible about Pinkie? I have a similar build to her redesign, and it just makes me hate how people act even more.

[@pizzamlpop3452]

Let me give a shot at this… “Forced Representation”: When a piece of media includes one or more persons considered to have “minority” background without giving them the same respect in character design and/or character writing as would be given to a character whose background is considered the “majority”. Hmm, well would you look at that. I can’t see how this definition applies to the art in question! (It could also be because my definition sucks, but I’m in the camp that this is as valid an interpretation of the Mane 6 as any, without leaning into big-wig self-congratulatory territory)

[@CelticBotansDigitalArt]

If I hear the term "forced diversity" being used unironically I can feel myself go feral instantly, it's such a stupid thing to say and, like you said, not even realistic cause people of all kinds of shapes and colors and backgrounds exist out there, and it seems so SHOCKING to these haters, lol. On that topic, I remember years ago when this incredible musician on yt made a cover of a song from Final Fantasy and when she released it, she received a lot of backlash for her creative choices; she even commented in the description she was sorry "for making such a bad rendition" and I thought it was SO WILD, because her version was different from the original, yeah, but still really good, and I was upset that the backlash got to that point. I remember writing a comment how ppl are allowed to dislike things without being an asshole about it, bc there's always a real human being with feelings behind the other side of the screen. Long story short, lots of people answered me how I was being "a sensitive snowflake", how "FF players are insufferable and woke" (I never played FF in my life but that's besides the point), and how I was "asking to be bullied" for saying stuff like *checks notes* ....for saying that MAYBE, we shouldn't just comment vitriolic hate to strangers online cause not only bc it's just fucked up, they would NOT say that in person, to their face. I deleted that comment bc it was just overall so upsetting in so many ways, but it just proves that these sort of people dogpiling on artists, amateurs or not, for sharing their views on something (that being diverse pony redesigns or a cover with a different arrangement from the original), just dont care about anything but themselves and what THEY want and think it's "acceptable" or "beautiful".

[@SaintCharlos]

Forced diversity in my opinion = Using minorities as a way to look diverse, such as token minorities.

[@PVNKSHEEP]

I agree sm. Please please PLEASE just be respectful in art man a lot of begineers (some arent necessary young but some are) can be very scared and turned away from art for good because of bullting.

[@octoinkz]

Yeah for sure! There is a ton of ageism in the art community and it sucks. Not everyone is a talented 11 year old

[@Littleghostman4]

I don't think the map redesign was made by a beginner, I'm pretty sure the art was just made by someone who has a bit more of a semi realism style, and the faces look a bit more realistic then cartoony, then what people online like and are used to. that's just my opinion though. edit: also can't forget the fact that when people have opinions of mlp characters races or body types (even though their horses), THE FANDOM GOES WILD, as someone who headcanons Pinkie pie Irish and ginger, I've had a few arguments due to that.

[@soupcat4143]

some people just need to come to terms with not being the target audience sometimes

[@Jin-yq6vb]

I ain't gonna lie, when I saw Rarity and Pinkie designs at the beginning of 0:03, I didn't liked how they looked. Especially Rarity. When I say this I don't intend on being rude or spreading hate or anything like that. I just didn't like Rarity clothing and height. Just didn't fit with the character I believe. As for Pinkie, it's just the build of the design. It something I don't think fits with the character. Besides that everything else I have no issue with. The clothing, and the hair, I think they're fine. I did like Apple Jack design it just looks just right. The clothing, the pose, the build, it just right. 10/10. My second favorite would be Twilight by just the look of the design. But thinking about it, the design doesn't strike me as being a human version of Twilight. But instead as a separate character of it own. And lastly there's Rainbow Dash. I like the hair cut and the clothes of Rainbow Dash. I also like the pose and the build of the design. Lastly when it comes to Fluttershy there's not much I have to say. I just personally didn't like the jacket she wearing but that about all I have to say really. If someone has comes this far in reading this long comment of mine, the reason I commented in the first place was to describe my thoughts processes when I saw the redesign of the human version of the main 6 as humans in the beginning of 0:03, in text.

[@jessieiscat1893]

Yes that was what i was thinking. Even though its bad to say like ‚forced representation‘, it really feels like it for rarity to me. Because it doesn‘t fit her character, i don‘t recall when she showed signs of like being a person with dwarfism. They just gave it to her for (seemingly) no reason. Its bad to say it but it has to be said 😢

[@LiDL-Zuzflek-]

@@jessieiscat1893 plus she is a white pony .. i have no problem with people of color but he litteraly white as the color white can be ... i think she should be pale .. it would fit her pony form so much

[@LadyLeomon]

Not just you, most of the designs are just ugly to me … I’m honestly not sure which I find worse: Midget-Rarity or Rainbow-Dude 😖😖😖

[@Xiao-er8]

WHY IS THE RADIO DEMON IN THE FUMNAIL NSNHAKAJOAOAOKA

[@Stolasfeetpics]

Bro thinks he's rarity 😭💀

[@Xiao-er8]

@@Stolasfeetpics OMG LOL

[@aristheartist]

Honestly, at first, I thought the exact same way as the commenters...the "forced representation" part. Then I thought about it. In my human MLP designs, I am gonna make Pinkie Pie and Applejack black...then I was like, damn you really got a good point. You have thoroughly changed my mind on the topic of forced representation...which does happen intentionally in some cases, but yeah, I have changed my mind.

[@lucasoliver2571]

This is a surprise I was not expecting a new video today 😂❤

[@octoinkz]

Me neither tbh

[@cartoonhyperfixated]

WHO invited Alastor in the group ⁉️⁉️⁉️

[@gutsydemise]

banger video, I think you made some really solid points ; we as an art community really gotta start doing better especially in spaces like tiktok.

[@Pop_Penguin]

Honestly, people really just need to slow down before commenting on things, like at least look at art for a minute if really want to put your input in 😭 There's so many things we can notice or learn like, but when people see art different from the type they usually consume, they jump to hating on it.

[@InkedAnimations]

It also kinda goes the opposite way too. I'm really tired of people calling me racist, or fatphobic, simply because I don't draw it often. But why don't I draw it often? I've only been an artist for 3 gosh dang years, I'm still LEARNING! I'm starting to draw POC characters more often, but not much simply because I'm still learning stuff like hair, and clothing designs. I'm not racist because of that. As for Plus size characters? I'm self-taught, and I only just started teaching myself anatomy, so I'm still trying to learn basic anatomy before I start trying to add onto it with different weights. I'm not fatphobic because of that. It ends up really hurting when I'm called things like that when I'm not, I'm just not good enough to draw those yet. (Sorry for the long rant comment)

[@AL13NS1LLY]

I recommend using reference images, digital or traditional it helps with ur anatomy or find an artstlye! Some art styles don't include anatomy and that's fine,but if you want to be realistic U should really use references! >:3 (all this is coming from a young artist but I drew for most of my life lol)

[@beaniebean4885]

For rarity, I think it's that she looks shrunken rather than drawn with dwarfism. Idk, maybe it's the pose but the proportions look off

[@ThePrinceofkindfulness]

I don’t even think the art itself is that bad, I just really don’t think the characters would look like that in my head, some more than others. But yeah, if someone wants to draw them like that, who cares? It doesn’t hurt me

[@Snostari]

I'll be honest, i was one of the people who didn't like the art (mostly due to rarity) but i kept that to myself as i didn't have any advice on how the drawer could get better. As a beginner artist myself, i would be absolutely upset if my drawing became part of art lore, and instead of critiques on how I can get better i'm just getting made fun of.

[@floofycupkim1197]

Tbh i redesigned pinkie pie's EG design and made her chubby, huggable and i loved the idea of making her candy and sweet asthetics.

[@floofycupkim1197]

I just have fun! PS - fat chubby folk are huggable. I'm not exactly in the best shape but hey I think when I see a chubby person. Sometimes I wanna hug them.

[@gobsmr]

We’ve 100% relapsed into the 2000s mean moment. The mid 2010s had backlash to that by being overly nice, so our backlash is being mean again.

[@oniecebaker6837]

I’m sort of shy of commenting on videos, but man !!! This video is super great and honestly took the words out of my mouth about this type of “trend” on social media and what not. It’s genuinely frustrating when people whine and cry about shit like this ! Forced diversity (or tokenism) is bad !!! I can agree !!! But for gods sake, let people live ! There’s other types of ways that people look and all over what fictional animal characters look like as humans ! Not everyone who makes diverse characters is trying to gain “woke brownie points” or whatever, maybe they *are* like that IRL, you never know. Just ughhh, dude. There’s another time to talk about the whole “oh if you want more diversity, make it yourself with original characters and an original story” since that’s also a huge issue, but I’ve yapped long enough. Good video 💕‼️

[@octoinkz]

Thank you I’m glad you enjoyed and I’m happy to hear your take on it!

[@crybby..k12]

Thank you!! This is such a huge problem all over the internet and especially TikTok and nobody talks about it

[@insertnamehere1398]

5:29 allastor's design was already finalized YEARS AGO by indie artist vivzie pop and it isn't even that bad. sure you can nitpick about parts of her art style that ya don't like but that's not the point. people just hate vivzie

[@featheredmask924]

Alastor being there is just so random LMAO

[@user-mu8py4vb7s]

Thank you, this helps me, cuz im a beginner artist

[@cohawtton3637]

Can’t lie I was a little closed minded about this all because I didn’t fully understand and thought the characters HAD to be a specific way. Like, personally, I see rarity as a health freak that would try all the diets to stay as dainty as possible because she cares too much about her appearance (not saying bigger people don’t care about their appearance or health), whereas pinky pie definitely indulges in her baked goods and doesn’t give af, she just wants to have fun. I do love that they made rainbow dash and apple jack muscular, it fits so well with their hobbies. I did fail to see these are my own headcannons and not everyone else’s interpretations as well so I appreciate you making this and opening closed minded people up to the actual truth that it doesn’t matter how you draw the characters and we all have our own representations of the characters. Might as well draw them however we want and try not to let other people’s opinions on the ponies ruin how amazing our art is or influence our decisions because no matter how you draw them it doesn’t matter and you are just as talented and skilled as any artist and there will always be someone that loves and appreciates the way you draw things. Your representation of the characters is just as valid as any and all and it’s actually quite cool to see how people draw and interpret the characters so differently now that I’m not focusing on what I WANT 😭

[@weegeeh4ck3r]

I don't see any problem in some of the mane six being represented as black or fat by a fan. The thing is, what's the point of making them so ugly?

[@Calico_Chip]

Lmaoooo 😂

[@MunchiStellar]

Literally 😭😭😭😭😭

[@sociallyundead419]

It's almost like beauty is subjective and designs are for fun.

[@Calico_Chip]

@@sociallyundead419 That's completely true. But I think most of us can agree that these designs are quite hidious

[@inkiio]

NEW OCTOLINKS VIDEO

[@octoinkz]

OMG NO WAY I LUV OCTOLINKS 🥰🥰🥰

[@segundojb9202]

I was really looking for someone who was commenting about it and thank god I found u. Your points are great, I totally agreed with then, and also, ur art is so beautiful. In addiction, I just wanna to say that everyone get so mad about fat representation bc health and stuff, but when it's a deadly thin character, no ones beats an eye

[@Spinelsofficalwife]

I’m sorry but the thumbnail made me giggle

[@LURK_was_here]

actually, i just love magda's redesign, its original and pretty, it feels good to stop seeing unnatural skinny characters and seeing something that is real for once, i love your videos, im OBVIOUSLY subscribing, never give up youre amazing

[@The_yippee_queen]

There are MANY people that I met that wouldn't care if they had to say any of that to somebody's face

[@variiious]

the main reason why i dont like some of these types of redesigns is because its always the poc that is more overweight than the white ppl.. like why is that always togther?? why cant white ppl be overweight? its just makes the situation worse.😔

[@exil_4189]

omg thank u for making this video so much 😭💖💖💖

[@Anthro_Girl101]

As a plus sized person and artist who experiences hate on the internet, I agree with everything you said in this video

[@octoinkz]

I love ur pfp btw

[@bruhmoment5974]

"plus sized" 💀💀💀💀

[@SheepsyXD]

I said it before, draw them as you like you have that freedom and it's fine, but people need to be consistent with the lore at least, pinkie pie is an amish, amish are mostly (i think all of em, i'm not sure) white, pinkie's real hair is straight, her hair looks curly bcz of a rainboom, her hair is just messy, the worst part of this is that if you tell them something they attack you for telling them a character doesn't have a neurodivergence they want them to have. Make them the race you prefer but don't make them look ugly at least😢

[@Pixal2014]

I do not hate the art but I do have some critiques to share 1 I love the human designs he/she a good job drawing amazing humans I a little jealous but they look like Random people not human pony characters I think they could have added more mlp elements to the design but as a first time pony artwork it look good feel free to hate me for this

[@pjdava]

OctoInkz, I loved this video so much, I had to hit the like button!

[@octoinkz]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@sorayahoban]

the only thing i saw wrong was myself thinking fluttershys arms where coming out of her ears lol

[@LilySky-fw2gd]

Tbh on my TikTok I did like a little make fun of the fanart. The only reason I did this tho is because i thought the drawing was a joke from all the videos I saw of it. I didn’t really know the whole story.

[@midnighttheartist708]

Personally, I always support the plus-size Pinkie Pie. The first time I saw it, I was impressed because it was outside the norm, but it also helped in accentuating her character as a sweet-loving party-goer. She's soft, round, and jumpy. The plus-size Pinkie Pie has always been one of my favorite headcannons.

[@sarahblack9333]

Pinkie pie is friend shaped

[@Calico_Chip]

Lmfao​@@sarahblack9333

[@Icequ4keOfPyrrhia]

Just one word… YES! As a beginner artist and editor people have been SO MEAN to mean, calling me a sped bc of my art style, which I don’t approve of bc I have a cousin who is autistic and my best friend is autistic and I think we shouldn’t use disabilities as a way to insult people. People have been mean to me just because of the way I choose to live my life (I’m a therian and a furry :3) and someone told me my editing sucked even though they confessed they’ve never done it before. It’s hard for me to want to post things when people just say ‘I can do better’ when they haven’t drawn in their life. I prefer to keep art pieces I love to myself because I don’t want the internet ruining my perspective on them. One piece of praise isn’t worth it, if I want people to like my art I’ll show it to my friends and not some people on the internet who refuse to accept that I’m different than them and I can draw how I want.

[@kadescorner8711]

I don’t understand how people can get mad about people making human versions of ponies that don’t even exist

[@Pluto_The_Faerie]

10:57 right?! I’m technically not plus size but I have a chunkier body type and I still will never understand why fat people are considered ugly like wtf is ugly about the shape of your body I will never understand why people get so irritated when they see fat characters and same thing goes for when people see more than one person in a show that isn’t white like I’m white and I still think that’s so stupid and petty to get mad about that

[@Carbs_]

The people calling these drawings "forced representation" is really sad to me cause this isnt forced representation it's just representation :(

[@laraprisma6381]

What you said about dwarfism, I really agree! I took three characters from the troll films and made them humans and one of them is dwarf because in the films the character is an adult but is shorter compared to her friends. I say this because I saw human versions of this character and she was the same size as the other characters. Dwarves deserve representation too!❤

[@EggoBeggo__]

I’ve seen several people get discouraged and quit just because of the bullying, and yet people still say “oh haha, it’s for the better their art was bad”. Excuse me? Artists don’t spawn in with 10/10 art skills, and art styles exist, not everything is Realism or Anime. I’ve been bullied constantly for my art, wether it be online or in person, and trust me, it does effect the person a lot. I started to listen to their words and slowly stopped drawing and now I’m struggling to get back into it or show my art. It’s terrible, and they aren’t funny.

[@luvhlypookie]

WHY WAS ALASTOR IN THE THUMBNAIL?!!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Ra1ndr0p]

I honestly don't think it's a beginner artist. I'd say I'm an intermediate, going to art school and all, and I just learned how to draw humans the other day because of my friend. It is TOUGH. The proportions on the drawing are actually really good. And by good, I don't mean realistic, I just mean they blend together well.

[@sizzylizzy-fq9cu]

Okay, i will give you a definition of forced representation that isnt racist fat phobic or ableist. in this situation of drawing mlp characters as humans (talking about that image), i would call that forced representation. why? my answer is because those characters arent like that in the show. in the show, rarity is not that small compared to them. pinkie pies skin is not that dark, i do not mean that in a racist way. if you switch a skin tone chart and pinkie pie to black and white, you can see she would not have as dark of skin. however, apple jack, twighlight, and rainbow dash do have darker skin. so, basically to sum this up: i believe that in this situation, "forced representation" would be when you take a character and change their features from the origonal version. bringing up this example again, rarity is not a dwarf in the show as a pony, so she shouldnt be a dwarf as a human. with this writing i mean no hate to black people, people of any race, people with disabilities, people of larger size, the artist who created that image, this youtube channel, or anyone else. Have a good day.

[@Ayumu-nd9qr]

Alright are we not gonna talk about how short rarity is in the redesign??? Why she so short?

[@octoinkz]

Did you watch my video? She has dwarfism I have a whole segment about that 💀

[@Ayumu-nd9qr]

@@octoinkz ohhh! That’s my bad brother 😢 😢😢😢

[@Calico_Chip]

Rarity is not a dwarf in the show so kinda strange

[@Eww388]

Off topic, but I feel like if this were the real designs of the show I feel like people would be upset because they didn’t like seeing the main characters like that. I feel like they would like seeing background characters with representation and not the main characters. Because they like to see “appealing” characters to watch everyday and not a disabled character or etc- I don’t know if that makes sense but I’m sure some people think like this or something I don’t agree with this but I wanted to say this because I don’t know I thought it would be fun. Not that fun of a topic but this is what I think idk

[@four4446]

(Sorry if it’s too long) Tbh, I like the pinkie pie, apple jack (her being black bc pinkie is her cousin) and rainbow dash, but only because it seemed like it had enough thought into it. The characters aren’t even bad on their own, I think it’s just the way that they added so many characters with “unconventional” traits that people don’t like. which is fine, but it seems like it’s the only thing that defines the character designs except for the ones I mentioned. Like some of them don’t really have the original pony’s design referenced. So it would just look like one of those things that corporates do to “pander”. We’ve seen it so much that people probably think of that when they see this. Even as a POC (Caribbean descendant) I hate seeing companies try to make it all about race. “Ooh look we made Ariel black” like I would appreciate it more if they made a completely new black character. It shouldn’t JUST be about race or ableism or whatever. I feel like a character should have their qualities as qualities and not make it carry their whole design. I design my own characters, I made them mostly diverse, ex: all of my Ocs are non-human beings that live in space, they look human-like so making them all a certain race doesn’t matter. But I did make most of them all pansexual or some aro/ace. Just hearing that makes it seem weird right? (Like all of them?), Just like how people would view Magda’s designs. But I made them that way because they are not from earth, so they don’t really care about things like gender and gender norms. On the surface, all of them having unconventional (as in it’s not usually normal to see no offense) identities would make it seem “forced” but with purpose, not as much. I do appreciate the designs if Magda did acknowledge that they did that becuase MLP should be about diversity. But then again though, they don’t have to always point it out. Again the designs weren’t even bad, I just hated how people responded (either being harsh towards the art or calling ppl racist for calling it “forced diversity”). I do agree that unconventional art does get unnecessary hate, and this is a good example. Which isn’t ok because they don’t deserve hate over something so simple, but I do still understand why SOME people say “forced diversity”. I’m sure not all mean it like that.

[@littlestarlight496]

Only thing im gonna say, WHY IS RARITY THE SIZE OF A JELLYBEAN?

[@LemonFlavouredClorox]

Dwarfish exists? ☹️☹️

[@goldeneclipsee]

Did you even watch the same video I did-

[@jess-fg1wt]

Hazbin Hotel wasn't made by a studio. It's a concept, story, and characters made by VivziePop. Just because her work got picked up by a company doesn't mean it's okay to trace her art..

[@octoinkz]

All media is made by a creator, since it’s mass produced it is inevitable and is subject to critique and jokes as long as you aren’t taking credit for it it’s fine. Especially since the rights of the characters and series are in the hands of a corporation, I doubt vivziepop minds, she’s making bank and it’s publicity for the series

[@sakuragirl1102]

I like how they’re trying to represent, but I don’t like it when they overrepresent

[@Sootsage123]

Why is Alastor in the thumbnail lmao 😂

[@noojnooj_33]

Its one thing to change a person or character to a different body type or skin color, but for god sake they are rainbow ponies and people can make the human redesigns whatever they want to-

[@dovesnbowties]

i imagine them all as white because back in primary i had a friend group and we all had "assigned" ponies and now when I think of the pony in their human form I see it as that exact person. but at least unlike some people, I dont get my hcs get in the way of appreciating art. If I'm being honest, the artist who drew that was so talented and unlike some actually utilized all kinds of shapes and forms and colours in order to achieve the finished design. if those ppl who went out of their way to hate on the artist, it makes me question if they even understood the message of mlp??

[@ripples7155]

This should have like a billion views

[@catastrouge]

Unfortunately, I've seen a lot of hate towards the poor artist of this drawing (on Tiktok especially) and it makes me really sad. I dont consider myself a professional artist at all, i know that im learning each day, and something like this makes me so anxious about posting my art anywhere. I've been bullied some years ago, and some things still haunt me to these days, so i know that getting hate comments, like the artist of this drawing did, would destroy me and never let me draw again. i dont get why people think they're allowed to be this rude, and now im not talking only when it comes to art, but in general. Tiktok has been really a toxic place lately, and it's starting to spread to other platforms as well. it's scary. it's unfair. let people be! if you dont like, just scroll, there's no need to leave a hateful comment, that will stay on the Internet forever.

[@Tokyo-eg1wf]

1) I can understand not liking another person’s art or redesign. It’s okay to not like it. But being rude and cruel about it isn’t okay. Just because you HAVE an opinion doesn’t mean you have to SHARE that opinion, and some people need to learn that. I personally don’t like the redesigns, but I wasn’t going to go bully and belittle the artist over it. Everyone has to start somewhere, and they’re trying their best 2) I can’t say this is 100% correct or applies to 100% of people who have this idea, but I think there’s more to the forced representation than people understand. I think people are used to the main cast being predominantly white, straight and able bodied. So when people do redesigns and now every singe character is a person of color and part of the lgbt+ community, it might feel like it’s being forced. It’s a complete 180 from what was originally there, and instead of adding in a few characters to have the representation they want- every single character is different now, so it might feel forced. Just like a lot of the Disney princess stuff feels forced to people. Like “Oh, look, we changed! We’re not racist, look!”. Not saying im right, I could absolutely be wrong, but that might be where people are coming from. “Forced Representation” is being thrown around a lot lately, unfortunately 3) The art community can be so toxic sometimes and it’s sad. It should be a safe place and a place to lift each other up and help each other, but it can be so mean sometimes :(

[@WhatABinglylittlescronklylil-]

your rant is wonderful to listen to but that splatoon music jumpscared me so hard I left my skin behind

[@christaspirit]

I like the redesigns! The art itself is a little awkward in the beginner artist kind of way, but it’s not that bad! But once again I am reminded why I don’t want to download Tik Tok

[@user-rz9gr2uy9u]

Hey hey. I might be too late to comment on this. But I came from a disabled family. My mom has cerebral palsy. My dad has face palsy. And my left leg is pretty much useless. They had to implqnt a metal inside to help me move. I wven somtimes need crutches. And I Just wanna say tgat. I think making a cast like. Oh we have one disbaled persom, one black, one asian, one gay. And one white. Is actually forced representation. I wouldnt be happy if they made Rainbow Dash disabled per say. Because it takes away from her character. She is a sportman, and pretty active and abled bodied. I also didnt like the fact That Rarity was fat and had dwarfism. Because her matching the beauty standarts of their universe was a big amount of her personality and character. Like if they draw Scootaloo with a prostetic leg. That would have been awesome. Because Scootaloo, even tough the reason she cant fly is becasue her dad is an earth pony, is can be consider3d disabled. I also dont think people hate disabled people. But they Just cant see a character with a disablity. Because it doesnt makes sense. And I get it. I think the people dodnt like giving main 6 too many different bosy types is because in the MLP fim, they all had the same body type. Like different bosy types exists in Mlp universe but the main characters had the same body type. Thats why people might not like artists giving too much diverstion to the body types. And lastly, the art looks like its been traced. I am sorry. But at the end. If you need to bully a beginner artist because they draw your favoirte pink horse black. The problem is you. Bad English. I am Turkish 🫠🫠

[@Stardust_0fficial]

I don’t personally like these redesigns, I have different head canons… but am I gonna harass an artist for it? No? I have thumbs. I am physically able to scroll

[@Lumii_on_yt]

You ate and left no crumbs. Slay.

[@toothgore]

i'm in a fandom where arguing over fan designs and headcanons is extremely common, seeing some of the same nonsense i see in my own fandom cross over into mainstream hate is absolutely absurd. harassing artists over different interpretations of the same character is, and always has been, ridiculous.