WE NEED TO TALK! Tamiya VQS 2020 Detailed Unboxing & Close Look. Kit58686. A Controversial Release?

[@JeffersonHumber]

For the money it should be fully ball raced and come with a special edition GT tuned motor

[@johnwindsor9069]

Tamiya USA dropped the price to $337usd recently for the VQS. But I still look at kits like the Bigwig, and Terra Scorcher that went for $200usd with full bearings and (BW) included special GT motor. I was wondering if Tamiya fixed the weak areas on the VQS, quess not. Thanks for the video, made my decision to pass on this easier.

[@gugerliraphael4220]

Hi, i just finished the restoration of an original Vanquish. I build a G10 part with a 2mm carbon plate. I glued part of the plastic part below the carbon plate and adjusted the height. It is super strond and nothing can break it. Best

[@mattarnold5599]

I have a VQS kit still in the box. I haven't turned a single screw on it yet, and I won't until I get more parts in for it, thanks to this video. I already have a 4000Kv brushless motor/ESC combo waiting on the shelf, plus the upgraded aluminum G5(extended)/G6/G11 parts from rcevologic, as well as most of xtraspeed's aluminum chassis bits, plus the aluminum knuckles/uprights from Yeah Racing. The pieces that I'm waiting for are all of the bearings that you've recommended here, as well as a two sets of carbon steel axles from Yeah Racing. I'm building it from the start with all of the pieces that I want on it, so that I don't have to go back in and tear it apart to rebuild it the way that it should have been from the beginning. I also have a set of the Tamiya hi-cap shocks, which have been discontinued. They cost a mint, but I wanted them so I paid for it. I'm really looking forward to this build. I was heavily into RC in my teens and early 20's, but stepped back as adulting took over. Now I can do it again, and I'm going to build every single one of the cars that I wanted as a kid, starting with this one. Thanks for the very informative videos, and I'm truly sorry about the loss of your friend. EDIT: The bearings and the loss of your friend were mentioned in other videos, my apologies.

[@SPEXWISE]

You can get a practically bombproof rere Kyosho for that money.

[@RCKickschannel]

Yes you can Neil

[@justins_toys]

Yep, I have the Javein and its on a another level and cheeper, Just as much nostalgia too

[@SPEXWISE]

@@justins_toys I want a Javelin. So cool looking with that caged design. I bet it's a beast. Do you run modern electrics/brushless?

[@petergoodwin2465]

Yes totally agree, I went crazy and have a hobbywing 3.5 turn in my ultima and it's a beast . Unbreakable but way over powered ha,ha, did 75k's but couldn't full throttle it. For the money kyosho have some beautiful beasts .

[@Gene_the_OG_Raver]

I would rather buy another Manta Ray, if they came back out again. I picked up a Re-Re new in box Pre-Covid last year for just over $110 shipped...... and the Manta Ray is a great daily driver.... it has taken a lickin and keeps on ticking

[@sf2372]

HAd no idea Tamiya, a Japanese company, was so money hungry. Great valid points you have raised mate.

[@RCKickschannel]

Thanks 👍

[@Fluterra]

Toyota has become fully focused on profit, to give you another example. My 2011 Lexus, which I bought new, was full of cut corners, some were a safety hazard. I’m a former Toyota Engineer and swore to never buy another one after that experience.

[@philmoffett366]

Absolutely stunning looking buggy! But I just can't justify the price I've just bought a kyosho tomahawk instead.....a lot cheaper and all cnc metal (just need the time to build it now) excellent video👍

[@lrmbvv]

enjoyed the build- Never planned on bashing it around- but it has beefy gearboxes and just a couple plastic bearings- its a solid mid-range Tamiya and a fair price- nobody cried this much when the terra scorcher came out at 220 USD

[@alexgeisel2581]

Love the car, have received mine recently just need to wait for Christmas before I can open it. The VQS goes against my philosophy for all vehicles 1:1 or other which is there should be lots made, very basic design and easy to get parts. This kit pretty much doesn't have any of that. But, the heart wants what the heart wants.

[@timm9970]

Bought one but unexcited by it so far so haven't even added it to list for building. FOMO is the reason i bought it. Great video Gavin

[@RCKickschannel]

Good point about the possible FOMO on this kit. Could this be a super limited run from Tamiya? The 2020 Terra Scorcher has been discontinued already!

[@TheTruthHz]

I feel exactly the same. Not sure what I'll do with it really.... 😬

[@stevemoon2136]

It's a difficult part to improve design-wise using plastic. If it was a complete redesign, people would not be happy if it wasn't backwards compatible. You can please some of the people... Let's just be happy it's been re-re'd.

[@RCKickschannel]

I understand what you are saying Steven.

[@VestedUTuber]

To be fair, the specific plastic Tamiya uses is part of the problem. It's just regular ABS, albeit really high-quality virgin (not recycled so not degraded due to recycling) ABS. This particular part could probably benefit from being made from nylon or another plastic with better durability, or even a chopped fiber composite.

[@marcford6715]

Fibrelyte did make some carbon parts including the g11. I did contact them about this they don't have the file for it anymore.

[@Mr4fksake]

My original 88 vanquish has never broken the g11 part despite being slammed into kerbs and walls at speed, rolled over and jumped, yes it's broken the odd front uprights, bent lower arm pivot pins and broken rear a hub carrier on occasions

[@jamesh950]

Tamiya rc survival was mainly due to re release gear towards the baby boomer and silent generation. If I am between 12 to 18 year old, I don't think I would buy Tamiya. I would go for Serpent, Traxxas, Mugen, Yokomo, Axial...as they are that much better. The reason I still buy Tamiya is because I grew up with it and some of the kits are so backwards (compare to today, which is not fair) that I went and bought them. I will seat out the VQS as it goes for US$290.00 here (maybe 10% discount) is still quite expensive for 98% plastic RC. In the end is up to the individual consumer to walk away or drop some coins.

[@aspectcarl]

I dunno, for me the tamiya packaging had a huge attraction, almost like cigarette branding 😁 I think they'll be plenty of young people drawn to the tamiya way. The thing that draws young people is the mixture of rc cars on bangood and Aliexpress, cheapness and speed. I guess the rtr will always have a big following for ease of getting up and running 👍

[@RobPollen]

just got 2011 avante having loads fun making it go faster and upgrading it

[@stephenkelly8065]

I will be making up some G11 parts in carbon resin, I have the cad files. I didn’t think there would be that much call for them ! If you want a couple foc to try drop me a line. Probably be after Christmas now. Cheers, Steve.

[@jonthomas8487]

Painted bodies are silly. I don’t do box art, so that makes it really limited

[@sir2honda]

and I can't find a clear body right now either :/

[@PranciePaws]

Team bluegroove do a clear vanquish shell.

[@richuar]

Halfway through building mine at the moment and I was surprised at how many of the metal parts (sway bar braces etc) that I thought were going to be stamped from sheet metal are actually cnc machined parts. I’m pretty sure that the amount of machined parts in this pushed the price up a notch. G part replacements are being looked at by a friend right now who is measuring up the bits from my kit.

[@flynnz]

I already have most of the G parts made and on thingiverse. :) Go get um'

[@richuar]

@SteveQ you’re not wrong! From a machining point of view G11 would be a bit of a task. I’m wondering about having the flat portion cut from 1mm carbon fibre then putting that in a silicone mould and overmoulding all the bosses, lumps and bumps on it in a high strength engineering resin...mind you that’s not a five minute job either!

[@flynnz]

I could CNC the G11out of aluminum (using the same 3D model I made for 3D prints), there are also carbon parts out there too, but I would much rather have the flex with the new plastic part or even a 3D printed part. G11 is not really an issue unless you have brittle old plastics like from the originals. The new plastics and/or 3D printed versions would flex quite nicely, so I wouldn't worry about it snapping. I would also highly recommend not using rigid parts (metal, carbon, etc) on a classic version as this will most certainly guarantee the surrounding brittle parts will break all around it. Might look cool, but it would kill the car. Also, the reason G11 is so thin, is because it is designed to save the frame. It is actually a really good design and should be left alone. Hopefully, the plastics they use on this run don't age as bad but even if they do, 3D printing will be damn close to injection molded parts quality-wise in less than 30 years I would wager. TL:DR keep it plastic!

[@markscotchford4159]

I think it is really good that you are not nitpicking but being honest and straightforward and giving your opinion, based on facts. I really am shocked at the prices. It seems Tamiya are seeing what other companies are doing with releasing and pricing and thinking they could have some of that. Just goes to show those of us in our late 40's now really were seeing the cutting edge of RC back then but are these better than what is made now? Take Tamiya Durga or Dark Impact for example. Are they better or better value or both? It is a shame what companies are doing but I guess it is supply and demand. If people buy them at that price they will sell them. If we take the Kyosho Optima though, that release was very expensive and seems sold out. But I think a) it was way ahead of it's time and well designed, and b) it has a plethora of metal parts. Happy Christmas to you and all your readers.

[@leefordham8796]

Thanks dor your review. I really like your KZbin stuff. I couldn't agree more on your views. I want mine a different colour and thus I want to paint. Also I love the builds so I want every aspect. G11 needs to be sorted out by someone with a house remortgage to obtain it. Maybe too much to ask? I want to run my stuff on up-to-date power so it will be unique to run it and watch all the parts fly off. 👍

[@RCKickschannel]

Thanks for watching Lee!

[@RichardE3046]

I build the kit and understand the steep price. A lot of precision moulding is involved and cnc machined metal parts. I enyoyed the build! If you don’t like it don’t buy it 😂

[@justins_toys]

Exactly, and that why a don't own one.

[@Gene_the_OG_Raver]

It's hard to see the Black Plastic parts on your video when you wear a Black Shirt.

[@Kevin-666]

tamiya really cheaped out on this one, theyre selling less RC for more money. the only reason people buy these is because of the nostalgia and their experience with tamiya as a child. we will see how tamiya does in 20 years or so with the new generation of people

[@paulrobinson9355]

Spot on Gavin with your unboxing.....expensive kit that is is putting me off but I know that I will get one......! Great video as always 👍😊🎄🎅

[@RCKickschannel]

Thanks 👍

[@jonthomas8487]

It was a poor mans Avante when it was released so it should not cost this much. Heck a Kyosho Optima kit is less cost and is vastly superior

[@RCKickschannel]

That's a really good point Jon! I find it really hard to argue against it.

[@jonthomas8487]

@@RCKickschannel I guess for nostalgia sake given they were more attainable more folks had them. I remember them as a kid and wanting one, but they certainly were not on my salivating list like the Optima, Burns, Avante or Javelin

[@Heathcliff_hensel]

Kyosho re-release's are top notch. And they can handle aggressive driving better.

[@jonthomas8487]

@@Heathcliff_hensel yeah, I built the 2014 Scorpion Re-re and it was super fun. It doesn’t handle well with the front trailing arms, but it was fun

[@Fluterra]

An Optima is not cheaper, not in the US anyway.

[@Waikatotek]

Looking at the original manual, it came with a stock motor. So it’s just replicating the original. I’m not surprised.

[@duncanmcgregor7946]

Fantastic review of the kit Gavin. I’m glad I got one but like you fear the G part woes of the past. I’ll get the hi caps at some point I’m sure! A black anodised version of the g parts would be great and something I’d be interested in. It does puzzle me that they did not go for something like the glass reinforced plastic you find on some of the TRF range

[@RCKickschannel]

I would have expected the G11 and G5 to be some kind of reinforced plastic for sure.

[@marcushaas44]

Funny you mentioned this! I had one on my list for Christmas and watched the review from rc_driver online. Sry but nostalgia did not justify this pricing. I ended up with a kyosho legendary turbo scorpion, wich was less expensive and so much better quality wise. Tamiya shouldn't revisite there cars, before they got there company politics in a right way. Just my opinion...

[@onlineaccount]

It seems expensive but it does have a few parts that do cost, if it was 275 it might be more viable, i paid 350 for my egress but having this completes my collection, tough times means i can't stretch to buying one, great video and thank you

[@martinhsrc6699]

I had an original when I was 14, I never had any issues with G parts?? I understand now the plastic has gone brittle but were fine for me back in the day. My car saw constant use 🤷‍♂️

[@RCKickschannel]

It will be interesting to see if anyone running a VQS has any issues with G11 and G5

[@martinhsrc6699]

@@RCKickschannel I got my VQS a couple of weeks ago, plan to build and run, maybe even race at vintage meetings so we’ll see how it goes.

[@michaeldack4930]

Spot on Gavin, got one to build at Christmas, year a lot of money, look what you can buy instead! I'm happy with body only because it's hard to paint this time of year!

[@derekwilliams8727]

I've got an original tamiya escort cosworth . chassis perfect. Body original but slight damage. Tiger Stripe. Completely original. What kind of prices are these kits fetching these days? Can send pictures. Many thanks

[@msrx08]

Vanquish was really expensive even at the time. I'm not surprised at the price of the VQS.

[@knightwindsrc2314]

The vqs bumper and the original bumper are slightly different , you have to compare side by side but they are.

[@RCKickschannel]

I will take a look

[@SlinkiestTortoise23]

Shame that they didn’t upgrade the G parts and for the money, not being fully ballraced is shocking! 540 can also. Optima Mid is a much better car that’ll run rings around the Vanquish. Shame, this could’ve been a really good release!

[@paulgarwood192]

Nailed it Gav! You discussed the down falls of this kit quite gracefully. Excuse the crude reference, but you really polished a turd on that one. 👍🤓🇦🇺

[@RCKickschannel]

LOL, Thanks :)

[@Ratty_Rex]

Only 1 of the 3 issues addressed, no special motor..... Overpriced by about £100 (on RRP) and around £60 on deal prices. I can understand why they've done it. (Not just to line their pockets) I was going to buy one, but will pass. Too rich for my liking by the time upgrades and different motor.... and buying at least 2 spare G part trees...... Great video though. A thorough pros and cons...... Great they've kept the "big box" aspect. :)

[@andyrobinsonrc2480]

I think it should have come with a full set of bearings and a little lower price maybe about £275 and I’ve more tempted to part with cash for it. Not bothered about special motors I’d change it anyway. Maybe body wise they could of done what they did with the Brat include 2 bodies? One pre painted for those who don’t like doing them and a clear one for those who like to make it personal to them.

[@RCKickschannel]

No clue why Tamiya left out a few of the bearings. Am I missing something on this?

[@andyrobinsonrc2480]

@@RCKickschannel I wouldn’t mind but bearings aren’t an expensive add on, that’s Tamiya for you , love and hate them at times, ha ha .

[@leemollison7508]

@@RCKickschannel I Dunno, but the Re-Re Super Astute also required that you supply the 4x 1150 ball bearings for the front wheels, they did not come in the kit.....I thought that was odd at the time.

[@ericwood2790]

The pre painted body could go either way if your doing box art it’s great if your not it sucks . I think the biggest flaw is they didn’t address the weaknesses with carbon fiber or aluminum. At the price point your at you should have had a special motor also . I do see people in the US on eBay breaking up the kits and selling them at steep prices . Ultimately I bought one along with the high caps , but I probably won’t run it because your still in the same boat you were with the original Vanquish, a fragile buggy that you can’t really find affordable parts for .

[@aussiecoastie72]

I am so happy I saw this video before splashing money out for this re release . I will give it a miss

[@Meenie66]

it is seriously crazy how much you have to pay for Tamiya stuff with what seems to be a much lower quality and standard of design or construction.... The only one I would buy would be an Avante re re, BUT they have gone insane with the price and I would never pay nor could afford it for the nostalgia of having one from when I was a teenager.

[@jamieedmunds3253]

Hi there. Here in n.h. u.s.a. The VQS is selling for 337.00 Also the avanta is selling for 437.00

[@Aro800]

Great review. Tamiya should have used the plastics in their TRF kits. Happy to point my own body but nice if they pre painted the driver. Waiting for the parts so I get the G parts tree as well. I'm just glad all the weakest parts are on the same tree and don't have to get multiple trees.

[@RCKickschannel]

Yes one good thing is the two weak parts are on the same G tree so that helps a little.

[@dustykatt]

Wish I could get my hands on one of those piece, see if it could be made CNC (That is my profession)

[@benjimandover8072]

I am having trouble with tamiya...I have a grasshopper 2..re..re.. just did my best to rebuild it...I've had fun with it but my tires are smooth now...i cant seem to be able to find rear tires for it...can you help me with any outlet for new ones???

[@jeffbrundt7740]

all Tamiya stuff seems to be going up in price. i know their new plastic kits are much more expensive. with the VQS the molds have already been amortized so there's basically no cost other than production. That's where the real cost for kits are. The only reason for the higher price would be Tamiya is doing limited production so they have to charge a higher per unit price. and judging by the fact these are sold out everywhere that fits. you just can't find any VQS' widely available and those you do find are going for even higher prices.

[@Mr_Cottam]

There is a VQS available near me (Toronto) for CAD $409.99 as of me writing this message. A great looker, but it seems too fragile for me. And those new "G" parts are probably super hard to find and still expensive. I will pass on this one.

[@Eds_PanAm]

would the wheels on this fit a avante 2011? just looking for something for a bigger variety of tires

[@martindezeeuw1722]

I'm hoping the price...is because of a short run.. much like the Terra Scorcher apparently?.. Plus the few upgraded items....bearings and pre painted body. Was lucky to get mine for $300.. or so.. due to a discount. So... Still enough... Like others have said...a Kyosho Optima, or Javelin re re is a better value.. I hope to get some hi caps... For a far price... Seen in another comment that a second release is happening in March.. looking forward to that.. if someone should make a machined G11 part... It won't be cheap either... But worth while upgrade.. tamiya... Should have made it with injected fiberglass... For some added durability... Seams that if we see a Falcon... We shouldn't expect too many upgrades...just fresher plastics.... I will hate to see what these cost when the production run sells out.. Avante Black Special is going up already...

[@aspectcarl]

Even if Tamiya supplied the car with an uprated brushed motor, alot of people would probably uprate immediately or at some point later.

[@leemollison7508]

I think the exchange rate could be making quite a difference in price, once % markups are added by the distributor, and then the retailer. I have one on order, but they ARE way overpriced vs the Avante, considering what comes in the kit.......

[@wadeskelton7585]

I’d be willing to draw the part up and have Shapeways print it in Al for you but I need one if you have one that’s cracked/broken. For a part that size in Al they’ll probably want $150 😬😬😬

[@VestedUTuber]

Wouldn't even need to go Al. A carbon fiber nylon composite like Onyx or NylonX should do the job more than well enough, and you can print it at home as long as you have a printer with an all-metal hot-end, a hardened nozzle and a heated bed. People really tend to underestimate FDM 3D printing simply because their own experiences are limited to PLA and ABS - the latter of which is the same plastic Tamiya uses on their models.

[@flynnz]

@@VestedUTuber I already made the parts, you can find them on thingiverse. And I agree, there is no issue with using 3D printed versions of these parts (honestly even PLA!). They flex quite nicely and I would have to bash the hell out of it to break it (which I would never attempt on my OG anyway hah). Putting rigid replacements would be a terrible idea as it would put stress on the surrounding parts. G11 especially so as it is designed to flex to save the frame from stress. That is why it is so thin and it's actually a smart design.

[@VestedUTuber]

@@flynnz In that case, nylon would probably be the best bet, since it flexes quite a lot while also providing a lot of strength. And then carbon fiber nylon composite would be a good choice for the surrounding parts, since the material is quite rigid but behaves like nylon upon failure of the carbon fiber strands.

[@flynnz]

@@VestedUTuber I agree. Honestly, G11 is a pretty good candidate for a 3D part because most of the stress will be on the platform that has the layer orientation in its favor. So much so that like I said, even PLA seems fine (I don't bash my car, but after over a year or so, no issues at all). But for sure, you can use stronger filaments for peace of mind. Though, I still like the idea of using something weaker like PLA just so I know that is the part that will break lol.

[@RCKickschannel]

Well if anyone wants to make a G11and send it in I will put it on the show

[@Tomsnfive]

I would say it would be time for a Egress 2. Iam personally don't understand the VQS.

[@MrMelton77]

What about an Egress Black Special? That would be something.

[@RCKickschannel]

Now that I would purchase.

[@ptaylor5014]

For the money it should at least have the fragile G part upgraded and also have all the bearings too, plus a better motor!

[@hellsbells114]

Was original called the vqs aswell,? NOT JUST VANQUISH

[@prophetate]

Really nice build and playlist 😊 think though I like the Avante more eventhough it is guite a lot more expensive 😊

[@brucelevall2925]

The egress is higher than the rest at this point it’s going for 640.00 to 822.00 US dollars

[@jonpalmer1309]

I think your US prices are a bit off. You can by this from Tamiya USA today for $337.99 - similar prices in other US hobby websites. I was able to pick on up with an additional $50 off. How do you feel about it at the price?

[@RCKickschannel]

My $ price is just an exchange rate from the UK market price. The UK always pays more for things due to sales tax and market trends.

[@jonpalmer1309]

Any thoughts on where to order the hi cap dampers? They seem out of stock everywhere.

[@RCKickschannel]

I see the next batch of HiCaps are coming into the UK is March 1st 2021 so if you have missed the first offering you will get another chance.

[@SANDSCORCHER]

With such an inherent Achilles heel, it seems to me that Tamiya ought to have named this car the ‘Vanquished’ instead 🧐 That costly finished body might go some way to explaining the high price. It’s still crazy though, as I don’t think I paid that much for my Black Special. Still such a cheap looking model though, especially in the wake of the Avante. Wasn’t even aware of these until about 1997 In fact I had no idea the Vanquish is as old as it is (always thought it was an early 90s car). In December of 1988, the shelves of all the model shops anywhere near me were filled with Avantes (along with Cats & Optima Mids). I never saw one in a shop anywhere and have no recollection of seeing the car featured in any RC publications either. I can only assume that the Vanquish didn’t inspire much confidence in dealers etc, even back then.

[@lsturboman]

I agree with you 100% on all points Gavin. Great video....

[@KentAsplund]

So Avante 2011 costs the same as a competition buggy of today, VQS is also of comparable price as modern buggies of good brands. Yes, it is not able to compete but the manufacture costs are the same. Price is what I would expect. Personally I am (almost) buying the sand scorcher. A car of dubious quality and no performance to speak of. Still... nostalgia.

[@justins_toys]

It's disappointing, it's all plastic. From what you say not even FRP. at that price its a joke that you still don't get a full bearing set, or old problems addressed. The silver can adds insult to injury. I love Tamyia but having discovered Shumacher and Kyosho kits the price of this is laughable. I have the Grasshopper, hotshot, Avante, and a TT02 which are all great. They are all priced well I think for what you get in the box. I wouldn't buy this unless it was around the £199 mark. Just my opinion. If it was my first car as a kid and nostalgia got the better of me I understand why people would by it. Still I think Tamyia should up there game.

[@Watta1979]

I totally agree with you..

[@MrBonger88]

This one just doesn’t excite me much. To be fair, I think the only re re’s that would interest me at this point would be 959/Celica , king cab/Toyota racers and the Kyosho Optima Mid line.

[@TheTruthHz]

Totally agree with you. Massively disappointed with the kit and what it comes, or rather doesn't come with... Way too much money for what you get.

[@AntsRC]

I bought n Avante but not a VQS, doesn’t seem as collectible and doesn’t come close for quality

[@Zombles581]

A racing fighter is £105 with esc and motor, can get turnbuckles, sway bars, upgraded shocks and ball race too. Tamiya do make better value for money kits!

[@danielanderson5364]

It should have a sport tuned at least for that price

[@RCKickschannel]

I agree

[@paulus842000]

Cheers mate for a great video. I agree with you about the vqs and the outstanding problems with the car.

[@RCKickschannel]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@cjprior88]

on ebay u can now get the vqs at £281 now

[@shaunbitz3569]

I’m personally not bothered by the painted body cause I will just paint it box art anyways. But I’m not impressed with the plain silver can.

[@toddl5038]

I cant spend that kind of money on a Tamiya kit after purchasing the turbo optima re re. Kyosho kits give you a more bang for your buck.

[@Heathcliff_hensel]

its a decent car but i don't feel there is anything special about it.

[@joerivamonte3004]

Maybe Ampro can help?

[@RC4X4]

wow! I was thinking of getting one. I guess Tamiya will sell alot of those parts. They are expensive.

[@zedstar1297]

Maybe those boys that did the carbon fiber upgrade for the kyosho phantom could help with these delicate VQS parts ? @gavin @rckicks

[@allyliddiard7320]

Much like its Aston Martin namesake, the Vanquish (or here the VQS) is very beautiful, but rather too expensive and unreliable... Shame, I had considered treating myself to the VQS, silly money and all.

[@svenvangroen1351]

Great review Gavin 👍👍👍

[@RoosterRC]

It's a shame. It is so beautiful! So sad, as I do not buy shelf queens.

[@RCKickschannel]

A few mods and it can be a full runner thanks to G11 improvements available.

[@RoosterRC]

@@RCKickschannel Is there any upgrade part available for G11?

[@RCKickschannel]

@@RoosterRC It should be coming real soon :)

[@RoosterRC]

@@RCKickschannel From which company?

[@zackthebongripper7274]

The fact that after spending $300+ you have to buy certain bearings that are not included is ludicrous. Add the "VQS" change and it loses it's charm. This is a great kit only for those who had one as a kid and missed out on the avante and egress. Otherwise it's a pass. I'll just buy the body set and stick it on my egress.

[@thegreattreon0177]

So Tamiya really think that people are going to pay $400 for a brittle rc model that'll probably never be put on the ground? I'm sorry but if I'm going to pay $400 for any rc model, I better be able to launch it to the moon and watch it fall back and keep on going!

[@leehurst6922]

There is also the fact that it isn't even fully ballraced

[@RCKickschannel]

Yep not sure why not.

[@craigbradley7301]

Yer I’ve always wanted one so I put a deposit down. Then I found out the price 🤬🤬🤬 yer it should come with full race and the g parts should be better. And a nice motor and the body should have not been painted (maybe cut out low) So iam going to put a spot tune in get the bearings it’s missing. Iam going to try and get some nice road stile wheels and tyres 😃

[@aspectcarl]

I think you are meant to buy it, build it and drive it. Let's say you get 10 years out of it, thats £33 a year, just get on, build it and enjoy it 🙂

[@stephaniekent8483]

32 YEARS :) ........NOT 42...HAPPY DAYS :)

[@robbieli2981]

I just bought one for $328aud (£180) brand new.

[@ronniecreason7870]

Your are right it’s Tamiya was good in the 80s but know they became greedy and cheap and they know people will buy that junk

[@catxls1835]

Great Video!!

[@blasphemyjg]

That g part is only a problem now, I highly doubt 32 years ago they were breaking them. You're harping on about a non issue

[@danielgray3061]

think your bang on with your points too much money with not enough updates and extras have a man with a cnc machine

[@flibbertigibbet6200]

I know it's a re re but come on they cannot be serious. I love tamiya and have 9 of their kits but I have also bought an arrma typhon 3S which has radio gear and servo etc ie rtr and it's bullet proof and fast as hell for similar money and 1/8 scale to boot.

[@Chunky246]

You need a Kyosho Beetle on that back wall :)

[@RCKickschannel]

Yes I do but finances are not available currently and I have already built a TH on the show.

[@darrengrimmer8541]

For me Gavin it’s the price... Dare I say a bit to much???. No bearings and standard motor!!!!. I guess there will be some who will like the idea of a new batch of spares available all be it Re Re parts.. For me the price means it will have to wait as I want a top cat before they have gone.. And the Mardave cobra.. must have one!!!. As I remember the Mardave kits from back in the day

[@RCKickschannel]

It comes with bearings, just not 100% of them for some random reason. Cobra and Top Cat are cool cars for sure.

[@nickrobertson2450]

Humm. Yes overly priced considering say the 2018 Bigwig. Not full bearings? No special motor or alloy shocks? In my opinion its £100+ over priced. I concur with your assessment! I bought the recent 2011 Avante (my first Avante) rere instead.

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

No way can I justify that Price.... Back when I bought my Avante in 1988, my friends who wanted one, ended up with the Vanquish - because it was considerably CHEAPER. Yet still performed well. Sure the price can be reasoned away with the production limitations, COVID, Dollar/Pound/Yen exchange rates, asinine market prices on used stuff..... But it still doesn't justify what Tamiya is charging for this - with a stupid Silver Can, same rubbish Shock Towers, and only a partial set of Bearings... The prepainted Body was the nail in the coffin. ONE upgraded bit - Knuckles! Still doesn't justify the outrageous price. 😖😞😠😠 NOW with strong rumours of a rere King Cab, my all time favorite, I'm worried that Tamiya will want about $500.00 for it!!

[@whome7004]

U wrong about this Brand I really don't think I are doing what you do by blowing smoke up well I definitely will take your word, will you recommend a different company? It could be ³² years before I could afford a new kit , Longevity name of the game

[@RCKickschannel]

I like loads of cars from different manufacturers. Kyosho, Tamiya, Team Associated, Tenth Technology, Mardave, Schumacher Racing and Kamtec just to name a few. It all depends on your budget and what you want to do with the car.

[@opj5791]

Its neat, but the price is way too steep. Look at what you can buy from Arrma and Traxxas for similar price points.