This Video Is Dedicated To Park Fleming RIP. Finishing A Tamiya 2020 VQS RC Buggy 4WD. Kit 58686.

This video is dedicated to an RCKicks viewer who past away yesterday (16/12/2020) Park Fleming.
RIP Park. Gavin
In this video, we finish building the new Dec 2020 Tamiya re-release VQS (Vanquish) vintage 4WD RC buggy. This video is a detailed step by step guide on all aspect of the build process for this new Tamiya RC kit 58686.
Bearings required for this kit.
4x BA19 850 OP.30 850 53030
2x BA21 AO-1008 830 94386
2x AO-1011 620 94389
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[@ΔημήτρηςΠαπαδομανωλάκης]

Hello from Crete Greece today i purchased mine . The price is indeed spicy but the love for Tamiya and especially for this buggy is a lot bigger! I agree that for this amount of money Tamiya should offer a slightly better package but that what it is ! Of course i ordered the missing bearings and i will order the high capacity metal shock absorbers. Im looking forward to put my hands on this kit!!! Big SALUTE from the island of Crete cheers and happy Christmas holiday to all !!!!

[@RC4X4]

wow! It looks good. I may have to do one, dang it. I have too many to build right now.

[@MULIES4EVER]

I have one already but I cannot build it yet as it is for Christmas from my sweet wife. I dont mind the price of the rerelease cars. I want Tamiya to be able to make money so they keep them coming. If it is not profitable it stops so we all need to keep that in mind. Also we are just grown up kids who make more money than we did as kids. So go ahead and feed that inner child. You have worked your whole life. You deserve it!

[@eltomasoable]

Lovely build, I love your way of fitting decals, this will help with my (r)evo body. Cool to see a build of a cool car that I like, but wouldnt buy myself.

[@JeffersonHumber]

Nice advice on the shock building, Gavin 👍🏻

[@stuartthorn3995]

Probably one of your best videos for me. I appreciate the tips. Thank you..

[@RCKickschannel]

Chuffed you like it. These build videos take a load more work to produce.

[@terence79chan]

Thank you for getting the VQS to show us! Have been waiting to see this build and it does turn out to be a beauty.

[@shaunbitz3569]

I really enjoyed watching this build video. Lots of great little tips👍👍

[@sf2372]

Awesome mate. great work.

[@MalcySP]

I always fill the shock with oil before putting the piston in. This prevents, or at least reduces, the chance of air bubbles under the piston head.

[@paulrobinson9355]

Brilliant detailed build, loved it! Thanks Gavin for the professional video. Definitely needs the GT Tuned motor and full bearing set then Tamiya would have released something special......just like they did with the Bigwig and Super Hotshot 👍❤️🎅🎄

[@duncanmcgregor7946]

Love the video, the critique etc. I think the additional bits are needed to make it to start being worth it. I was lucky with mine/price with getting it in from Japan with no import taxes/charges at all so it was at the price point that I was happy with (£250 including shipping). I’m glad of the polycarbonate on the G parts opposed to ABS.

[@jonthomas8487]

For my most recent build with CVA’s I took a block of wood and drilled holes in it. I filled them and let them set for 30 minutes. I also used Team Associated green slime on the o-rings on the bottom

[@MULIES4EVER]

By the way, thanks for the fun videos.

[@RCKickschannel]

Glad you like them, my pleasure.

[@billcox87]

Great video Gavin, form a shelf queen point of view, the price is a bit steep but i've wanted a vanquish for awhile so i will be buying one for sure!!!!! i will probably take it for a quick drive in the back yard in the spring and then it will just sit and be pretty;)

[@RCKickschannel]

Kind of the same as me. I will run it around the track to set a time and then it will go into the collection as a shelf Queen.

[@sonny_z900]

Bought one myself as I have the OG, the missing bearing you can buy cheap on eBay. I would like to have seen some goodies added to the car ie the motor, a bag or T-shirt like the first Avante re-release got them. Different wheels maybe but for beginners it's overpriced but I have some good memories with the car and thus bought the re-release version. I have the optional Hi-caps as well.

[@bluesimon13ify]

I'm not sure whether to get one or not, the bits they have upgraded is a good thing, I probably will when I get round to it, 8f they haven't all gone,😃

[@alfredyost7972]

The Tamiya Hi-Cap dampers for this car are becoming hard to get. Not sure why? Thoughts?

[@stephenmanley4097]

Nice build, for the money it could come with decent motor. 👍

[@leehurst6922]

Gav. Been speaking to someone on Facebook and they made their own part from carbon for the rear part which keeps breaking (g11??). I asked about all the little raised bits and apparently you do not need them. The avante has a similar set up and you just need a couple of spacers to mount the top arms

[@RCKickschannel]

Yep I guess you could do it with a sheet of carbon and some cut spacers.

[@jeffbrundt7740]

How well does a 7.4 2S lipo fit in this one?

[@tomosr4169]

Hi Gav, I think that you should get people to send in their RC cars and react to them as a small series. It would be interesting to see other people's RCs.

[@RCKickschannel]

Unfortunately shipping and insurance costs would be really expensive.

[@tomosr4169]

@@RCKickschannel I meant email, I explained badly

[@RCACTIONAUSTRALIA]

Hi Gavin, nice Build 😎👌🏻 as for price point they definitely should of included a higher spec motor and complete bearings. I think we will see low sales due to price. It’s definitely $100-$150 AUD over priced.

[@RCKickschannel]

Totally agree

[@sanderdevolder4805]

Great looking thing, that's for sure. For a little bit more money than price that Tamiya wants for this VQS rere (cheapest I could find one right now is about 300 euros) plus some upgrades like the motor, you can also buy a Kyosho Optima rere for which you would still need a motor. Or you could get a 2WD Kyosho rere buggy with a hot brushless combo for about the same money as the VQS. Anyway, for me the VQS seems wildly expensive and I would rather spend my money on a Kyosho buggy which has all the nice aluminium and steel parts.

[@yavorkaloyanov4483]

At least the box art is classic.

[@darthnagus5457]

Motor and bearings would make it more desirable. I don't know they didn't stick a better motor in?

[@stumpycatvm7115]

I think it may because any step up in the Tamiya motor from the bone stock 540- means a considerable increase in the magnet compression resistance, Which means you can't drive the gears with your hand by moving wheels, what will happen is the gearbox planetary gear teeth will grind against the motor pinion and for a novice may be an issue, They hedge against this risk or issue of confusion to a novice by just giving you the low resistance stock motor- I have the Super Stock installed with my copy with the Hobbywing 1060

[@VestedUTuber]

If it's the same motor as in the Avante rerelease, then it should be fine. It's not brushless-powerful but it's got some pep to it.

[@prophetate]

But it isn’t that expensive I thought 295€ and it is more high end than the super hot shot which is similar in price, or am I wrong? Been watching this great playlist of the VQS and it really grew on me so ordered one today to compare to some of my 4WD Kyosho buggies. I felt it was a close match tio Kyosho specs. So thanks Gav for all the great facts, thoughts and detailed build playlist 😊❤️👍

[@martindezeeuw1722]

Entertaining videos on this car as always Gavin. Do I like the price of this car... No....did I get one?.. YES. I am hoping the price reflects a small run of this model,and the upgrades that were done.. Would you like to see Tamiya re use this chassis for something different? ... Think Vajra....or black special, or a different buggy body....? Some of it may be tamiya getting what they can based on secondary market prices, or the insane demand on the RC market right now... Very hard to find much in stock at retail....! Either way... I have a vintage vanquish which I don't drive... You know why...lol.. so I got over the cost based on having the opportunity to drive a new one.. plus a coupon from the online retailer helped as well.. lastly... Once the run of this is sold out....the price will only go higher... which will have more people complaining on cost. Same as the Avante black special... Etc. Maybe Tamiya is asking more... Because we are in the decline of the re re market...?

[@RCKickschannel]

The next thing Tamiya should do with this family is make a Black Egress or a Black Top Force Evo. Now that would be cool.

[@marcushaas44]

Is it possible to give those bodies a clear coat in the end to protect the decals?

[@stumpycatvm7115]

not sure if they make a polycarbonate clearcoat, I would guess, if you did a standard jar, or TS, clear- it would not stick or adhere properly, so I would avoid, Mine stuck good enough, and I carefully heated the bubble to help work them out.

[@DustyFingersRC]

You can get a Tamiya clear coat for Lexan shells. PS-55 is a clear flat so dulls it down.

[@johnnycoolness]

It's an interesting product and price from Tamiya. Running off the huge boost in sales this year, I wonder if they are testing the waters with this before dropping the DynoStorm/TopForce Evo (facebook rumor dreams). The extra bearings for this VQS kit are kit are quite difficult/expensive for me to find/get. I'm waiting for Jan/Feb releases.

[@wallacedouglas2840]

Oops ,caught my mistake the silver on the body is a decal.

[@Heathcliff_hensel]

Its a cool car however i think i would spend a little more and get the Kyosho Optima Pro Gold. Because that has the upgraded gold shock already so the price is sort of a wash.

[@jasonkohlmeier6707]

I have always wanted a vanquish since I was a kid. The re release gives me that option but the price blows. Now granted I’m not worried about the upgraded parts because it’s never going to be driven. But i finally have an order placed for the top force evo which is by far a better deal. It does get frustrating that even now in modern times tamiya won’t include bearings in every kit like 99% of the rc cars. Granted I’m not interested in those, but if the vqs is this much, could one imagine how much a re release of a Porsche 959 would be? For this amount of money they need to take a little more pride. Not all of their kits are like this and it’s something we are use to, which is why they keep doing it.

[@RCKickschannel]

Hi Jason and thanks for commenting. I have to agree, especially the VQS price point was well off and the market reacted. You can still purchase a VQS from so many places as it just didn't sell while everything else is sold out. I do think this sent a clear message to Tamiya about pricing. You can't just stick big price tags on just any kit.

[@nickward4963]

Where do you get the receiver from? There's no link?

[@RCKickschannel]

I’ll put some links in the video description on the electronics I put in my cars if you like. Check in a few hours.

[@Mr4fksake]

If I didn't already have 6 originals inc 2 NIB's then I would buy one as it's a super looking model but as mentioned would have been better fully ball raced, with metal shocks, avanté driver and special motor

[@jonpalmer1309]

Is swapping the motor later and easy job or would you recommend deciding on an upgrade before building? Any advice on an easily available upgraded motor?

[@RCKickschannel]

No it’s easy to do. If anything the top plate doesn’t give you Much room so you might have to remove a few screws from that depending on the end bell design of the motor you are fitting bit it’s not the end of the world.

[@jonpalmer1309]

@@RCKickschannel Great to know. Thoughts on an upgraded motor if your keeping the Tamiya speed controller?

[@leehurst6922]

Think avante motor is GT tuned

[@RCKickschannel]

Yep you are correct, it wasn’t the BZ. It’s a shame as it would have been a nice addition to the VQS to have a 2020 VQS branded motor.

[@darrengrimmer8541]

A really well presented video Gavin.. lots great points covered.. I’ve said it before but wanted to see your thoughts.. I’m sorry Tamiya but the price is way over.. given we don’t get a full bearing set and the stock motor is very disappointing move by Tamiya.. Just my opinion

[@wallacedouglas2840]

I,m not trying to justify the price of the the car but how much would you charge someone to cut the body,buy paint then paint it two colors? Just a thought.

[@rcinhand9671]

Are the G parts holding up? Do they seem stronger than the original ABS? This kit is slightly overpriced, especially since the TD4 came out.

[@originalrcfun7368]

I had a original one as a runner with full Tamiya ADSPEC system in it. It had the G-part printed too. They drives vel for that time line, and surprisingly sturdy. Only thing I do not like is all the dirt piling up inside the chassis and the battery box lid get stuck with sand. The mid ball dif is not minded for hot motors. I drove it with a vintage 27 turn modified motor, and it handled that well. But will not recommend any hotter than a technigold or similar. I would get a set of MCI stickers for the rere though. That VQS stuff is so out of tuch in my opinion.

[@alfredyost7972]

Hi Gavin, do you know if this car is a limited edition? It does seem like the car is getting harder to find. Although I will say the parts are getting easier to find. I bet that will last for very long. Thoughts?

[@RCKickschannel]

VQS kits all over the place. It didn’t sell as well as expected due to price. I just checked and I found 7 online RC shops selling them still. I checked a few and the status is still in stock.

[@duffduff4948]

Hey Gav, thanks for that, really useful to know how you found this build, to answer your question, YES I would buy it if it had the bearings and a 'premium' motor. I already have bearings and a choice of motor's as it happens but that's not the point is it - Tamiya need to stop penny pinching like this its quite pathetic especially considering the fact that they get so much right, this is plain stupid. By the way I think the phrase is 'sharpest tool in the box' :) 'smartest tool' is something entirely different take care.

[@DaveyGa]

Still too pricey for what it is I believe. Regarding the G11 material, polycarb is great when new but it is hydroscopic and so becomes very brittle with age. Older Tomy AFX slot car chassis illustrate this well, if you find one still NIP, it's more than likely cracked/split already. A tougher Nylon or similar material would be more suited, albeit not as shiny. Cheers for the build series Gav.

[@RCKickschannel]

Best to drive in when it’s new and then put it away in a few years by the sounds of it.

[@michaelstewart3042]

At least a speed or torque tuned motor thier charging rtr prices for kits great build

[@Ratty_Rex]

Wait....... so the G parts are now upgraded? Or there is a VQS mk2 with upgraded parts?? :o G parts upgraded it's a buy from me, as I've got spare bearings a plenty.... and motors too. ;) Great video and build...... and thanks for how you build your cvas...... a much better way than me at the moment so I'll be swapping my method. :)

[@RCKickschannel]

No I checked the G tree in the VQS kit and its been made with Polycarbonate vs the vintage kit being ABS plastic. The tree has >PC< on the tab.

[@Ratty_Rex]

@@RCKickschannel Yay!!! Should be able to take more punishment and last longer then. Now to track down the best deal. :) Thanks for clarifying. :)

[@tamkyo101]

@@Ratty_Rex I have one listed on TC for £299 bank transfer or 309 PayPal, ;-)

[@harlyquin]

what, it comes painted????, there goes my plan to paint all the silver parts with tamiya Anodized Aluminium, that mixed with the un upgraded problems and stupid price it cost i dont think ill bother

[@TheFlyHustla]

If it was £50 less I would consider it.

[@RCKickschannel]

Well keep an eye out as you could see some deals coming along for the VQS.

[@craigbrett672]

MB Models have it for £309

[@MrMelton77]

I would go for one at £275 or below. Centre Diff is rubbish, it gets too loose with use. Had one on my 88 Avante. When it continuallyy slipped I just locked it. Would go with Avante torque splitter set in a VQS and run the one way diff.

[@TheFlyHustla]

@@MrMelton77 Thats good to know, I considered swapping the locked spur gear in my Vajra to the Avante ball diff, so it has ball diffs all around. I'm not a fan of the torque splitter I have it in my Black Special and Egress.

[@TheTruthHz]

I felt the same initially then I saw one up for £290 so caved for fear of never being able to get one. Not too bad but still expensive IMHO

[@TheTobyT]

I always was ambivalent towards the Vanquish, but I must admit it does look good! But too expencive for what you get though.

[@craiggarrett26]

When this was first announced, I was "hell yeah I'm definitely getting one of those!!" Then the price was announced and I was "hell no!!!" If the HiCap shocks, full bearings and clear body were included, then maybe but as it stands. No not for me.

[@RCKickschannel]

Keep an eye out, you might get some good deals on it in Jan if it doesn’t sell as well as expected.

[@tonygregg6957]

I think at 299 it's ok. uprights, universals, metal hex's, painted body, a centre diff all add up. I can see exactly why it's 150 over other 4wd buggies. I'm not getting one though, I'd rather pay another 150 for an Avante.

[@joelawson6319]

Would rather buy a super hotshot better value for the money , or just get the avanti over VQS

[@bravo0105]

I wouldn’t buy the VQS at present retail even if Tamiya was more generous with the kit. I’d sooner buy a vintage Tamiya kit off eBay.

[@ptaylor5014]

I agree if it had those parts you mention it would be worth it but in current form NO WAY, on the other hand if this kit was £100 cheaper then maybe.

[@zackthebongripper7274]

Decided to skip the VQS. I rather spend the money on a Vanquish body shell to put on my Egress. My money is going toward a Top Force Evolution re-re, whenever Tamiya decided to release it again.

[@RCKickschannel]

I hope so. I love my vintage Evo but I hope we see a Black Top Force Evo

[@markhinkle3234]

Cool car but the price is keeping me away.

[@garymurphy5133]

The main point is,it still looks like a entry level car,it price is way off compared to other stuff.

[@davidturner2365]

Awesome buggy but I do think Tamiya are a bit greedy price wise

[@timmythomas4132]

I'm more concerned about the overall strength of the chassis/ tower layout......i wanted one till I saw how weak that setup is......if I wanted to run hot motors, or even 3s, it'd be broke in 2 mins......hopefully they come out with a stronger frp, or carbon fiber setup that can handle it.....otherwise.....🤔🤔🤔 NOT!😲

[@originalrcfun7368]

I would not buy this car or other vintage tamiya cars for BL set up. If you want wintage, go for Team Losi XXX cars. They can handle powerfull stuff.

[@PhYnYx11]

Nope. No VQS for me. Kyosho ReRe....all day every day. Sorry Tamiya. Bring back an ReRe Boomerang or Falcon... 👍🏻

[@DaveyGa]

Yeah, Falcon is on a lot of fans' hotlists.

[@keironfellows4739]

Shouldn’t put your threadlock on before you thread the screw through plastic!!! It will damage the plastic!!!

[@RCKickschannel]

Not sure how you can do it then?

[@keironfellows4739]

@@RCKickschannel you fit the nuts then use a cocktail stick to apply a small amount to the thread of the nut- then put the screw in. Courtesy of RC MOJO

[@keironfellows4739]

Simples

[@keironfellows4739]

Other than that-FREAKIN EXCELLENT VIDS- not a tamiya fan myself but I have 17 rc’s

[@goldenmanuever1176]

Lot of sour grapes here. 58076 MSRP was 22,000Y which is $232USD. That translates into approximately $533USD into today’s dollars. The 58686 MSRP is $485USD. Tamiya was able to bring the car back to us IMPROVED for $48USD LESS. Guys if you don’t like it, don’t buy it.

[@RCKickschannel]

In the UK the best price currently is $453. I’m not sure what it was back in the day. Anyone know what the vintage kit sold for?

[@tamkyo101]

@@RCKickschannel Best price in Uk is £299 which is $403USd, I know as I am selling it ;-), Original price RRP was 24,000Yen and back in '88 you got 225 Yen to a Pound, so about £106 direct, add Uk levies and I think around £135, someone with an old magazine will no doubt give clearer idea on actual sale price

[@goldenmanuever1176]

@@RCKickschannel $453USD? Must be those Socialist taxes you guys love so much. I can get it from Tower shipped to the door for $292!

[@williamstewart1638]

I just bout this at Tower Hobbies for $287 with free shipping.

[@brianbeck7468]

I'd rather spend a few hundred more and buy a modern 4wd racing buggy.

[@davemonswhite]

It's 50 to 100 overpriced even with the addition of the missing bearings and a better motor. At that price I can get a race ready 2wd buggy that won't eat its gear train with a brushless and will easily take Lipo.

[@VestedUTuber]

I feel it's overpriced, but when you consider the state of the market, well... what isn't? It's getting to be a lot like the model railroading scene - the companies are acting as though the current generation of customers is their last generation of customers and is trying to cash out before the "inevitable" market crash, and it's creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[@Paul__FC]

They are asking too much. Pass

[@tomkbucks]

Its to much money kyosho money and its no were near the quality... £180 - 220 perhaps... and come on tamiya get bearings included!

[@KacKLaPPeN23]

This kit is just an obvious attempt at milking people who are nostalgic for these. Tamiya has great business sense in that regard and I think it'll sell like hot cakes. I'd much rather spend the same amount on a decently competitive race kit that will not explode just by sitting on a shelf.

[@flynnz]

Even with those things, I still wouldn't buy. It is way off the mark.

[@Nick-Antoniou]

Over priced IMO