We Needed to Do THIS Before Putting Metal on Our Roof

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@danrose3621 Ай бұрын

I agree you need to rethink the osb placement and the membrane orientation.

@rickylappin8862 Ай бұрын

I've worked construction over 30 years . I've never seen anyone roof like you're doing . No staggered seems and underlayment installed that way .

@leelulady2010 Ай бұрын

Please consider redoing the OSB & underlayment with better practices on the other side!

@airwess3369 Ай бұрын

Many comments in here about not staggering the OSB. Im no roofing expert, but, after building a home in the Philippines, learned that no one there uses any kind of underlayment. No wood. No paper. No tape. No sealant. Just the metal roof over the perlins with umbrella nails. I took it a step further and at least used butyl tape between the seams and roofing screws. But one building was already built and before i could replace the existing roof we took a direct hit from a Cat 5 Super Typhoon. That old roof along with building took zero damage. Every single home/building thats built with hollow block and rebar took no damage. That same Typhoon would've completely flattened every single wooden structure built in America. Sometimes the simple way is much better than the overcomplicated way. Even the well built bamboo Kubo homes with thatch roofs stand up to the Typhoons. But every single American wood style homes got flattened. Many have 1st floors with concrete and 2nd floor with wood. And those with the 2nd floor, the roof was nowhere to be seen, but the 1st floor intact. Funny how ancient ways of building last thousands of years. But the number 1 way to build homes in the most advanced and powerful country in human history builds homes that rarely last a century and get destroyed with practically every severe storm.

@zax8570 Ай бұрын

As everybody in here already said: rule of thumb in construction is to never use the stacked checkerboard pattern (on anything structural) when you can use the staggered brick type pattern. It is so much stronger that way.

@theadventuresofbrockinthai4325 Ай бұрын

Hey Jim and Jess, it is wonderful watching you guys work together. You work like a well oiled machine. You compliment each other. When you can find two people that can work together as well as you guys do, it is fun to watch. You guys probably can't see it but to us that like seeing your videos can see it in every video you make. But, and that's a big BUT. Jim, you are going to become a young old person. If I ever have the means to help you guys, I will. I would love to help you guys finish your house before you work yourselves to death. I worry that you are gonna fall off the roof or something like that and not be able to finish your home. And that would not be a good thing. Please be careful. ❤

@beakey3484 Ай бұрын

I agree wholeheartedly. It is such a pleasure to see two people work in such harmony and love. Learning about alternative building is secondary to learning about that peace. Namaste

@patrickdeserisy2634 Ай бұрын

I don’t understand why you didn’t research on how to roof a structure no stagger of sub panels and under lament starts from the bottom (facia) horizontal up so if any water gets under the tin it sheets off. Your setting yourself up for a leaky roof sooner than later. I know you like to do things your own way but I just don’t like to see your hard work fail do to not doing it right the first time. But you do you! Still like an will continue watching.

@BrianPeters-k2c Ай бұрын

With all due respect, you should go review how roofing is correctly done. I suggest you remove the OSB roofing immediately and redo it correctly.

@davidprins9401 Ай бұрын

If you've been watching for any amount of time, you'll know this is not a "best practices" channel but a "let's find out how long it lasts when you ignore best practices" channel. 😉

@markpashia7067 Ай бұрын

@@davidprins9401 Well he sure does that pretty well. The OSB ends are butted together with nothing supporting them from underneath! And that overhang is not supported either on the ends. Underlayment is run vertical instead of horizontal. And yet it might just work well enough for a metal roof. I just know for sure that if they ever sell it, the next owner will be shocked when they find how it was built. Absolutely nothing to code.

@santosvella Ай бұрын

@@markpashia7067 Oh my it was difficult watching him do all that. The only possible saving grace is the metal roof, maybe. But OMG he needs to redo the water proof sheeting.

@g.m.robertson8700 Ай бұрын

just leave these people in peace please??? U might be a jerk...

@Hotrodmustang289 Ай бұрын

The osb needed to have been off set to where you cut a sheet in half to start the next roll to have a brick pattern to give the roof better strength.

@doneown503 Ай бұрын

We are a Bull , charging ahead , dang them torpedos , the armchair experts will argue over a cricket race (not talking the English one , by gum!) , give this man some room , he's doing this not cuz he has to .

@Hotrodmustang289 Ай бұрын

@@doneown503I was blasting him for the way it was done. If it saves the roof from being ripped off on the end if some high winds blow across the plain from a bad storm… if there is anywhere where the plywood comes together of the 4’ side of the board it needs a 2x4 on the back side to hold the edge together so if you walk on the roof you don’t push the corner down and put a hole in the roof. You live and learn.

@zmblion Ай бұрын

@@Hotrodmustang289I agree it's the same with drywall I do believe. My only question is the sealing tape or whatever it is called wouldn't you do the horizontal before you did the vertical so you didn't have that lip where they meet?

@rancillinmontgomery2480 Ай бұрын

The underlayment was run the wrong direction. Water will still get underneath. Keep trying you’ll get there.

@kaydog2008 Ай бұрын

I would still put vent strips under the steel panel to als shed excess radiant heant. 👉👉TIP! For thos starting thier builds Under laminent should ALWAYS be layed horizontaly just like shingles. Starting from the bottom to keep water ALWAYS running down hill. If installing it vertical the edges MUST always be tar culked. Depending on what roofing material your going to use. In this case with Steel sheet panels your safe, but to shingles, tile or slat. Especially for driving rain regions. This would be a leaking mess.

@glennking1086 Ай бұрын

You need to add corner braces to stop the structure from swaying.

@blindnessisaspectrum6237 Ай бұрын

Tiny 2x4 holding up whole entire roof, again I would be afraid of collapse.

@doneown503 Ай бұрын

, drip edging , , mind of that

@paulehney4581 Ай бұрын

Great progress on the dome roof, Jess! The main roof is looking good too, Jim. You're probably tired of hearing this but the sheets if OSB should be staggered to maximizing the strength of the structure. I'm not sure how much structural rigidity the straw bales will add to the post (but I would still recommend adding wind braces to the top of the post at a 45-degree angle). The wind loading on roofs out there are significant. I know hurricane strength wind is fairly common in the southeast. But typically you don't get that in conjunction with feet of rainfall so it's not so much structural load as a hurricane. It's always better to overbuild a structure a bit than having to repair or rebuild it. Still it's great to see how much progress you've made this summer and early autumn.

@amyskaggs3554 Ай бұрын

We learned the hard way because our roofer used staples on the underlayment and it causes it to leak massively. Just sharing our experience. Praying that you don't have the same issue. God bless you both.

@jamesreedii1804 Ай бұрын

Underlayment same way just like roofing left to right to roll off the water.

@deannedflrocks5337 Ай бұрын

Sometimes I wonder where Jess is the realized she's behind the camera. Camera people are so conspicuous sometimes we forget they're there. Great job with filming and editing.😊

@theo-avl Ай бұрын

I’m in Asheville. Almost day 10 with no power or water. Utter destruction. Thanks for your thoughts. Watching your video is a piece of getting back to normal for me.

@darienneflint9354 Ай бұрын

So sorry your entire region has been hit so badly. Wishing you safety from us here in Australia

@ourselfreliantlife Ай бұрын

So sorry for you having to go through this. Prayers are still with you and others dealing with this. 🙏

@theo-avl Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@MrPedur Ай бұрын

Good work, as usual. But protect your knees with 2 knee pads! It might be fine now, even if it hurts a little, but you'll regret it when you get old.

@crazycloud2 Ай бұрын

This is so true!

@KerriHastie-zp5ey Ай бұрын

Hi guys! I hope your as well as you look. Stay safe stay strong..woof woof from Queensland Australia

@clarencehopkins7832 Ай бұрын

Bro , if you want some help I could come and give you a hand . The guy was correct about staggering the osb seams and the direction of the underlayment

@jaysmith8199 Ай бұрын

Looking good! Knee pads needed and a winch to save your backs. You'll be thankful later 😊

@DeborahKEgolf Ай бұрын

Thank you for thinking of us. South Carolina. Love Y'all ❤😊

@pappabob29 Ай бұрын

Your roof membrane should come all the way down to your facia to keep the rest of that wood from being soaked. Don't know what you have in mind for lateral bracing but with the winds you experience you certainly are going to need some. Right now, you have a bunch of poles sticking up out of the ground with nothing bracing them from any sideway forces (wind). How are you going to water proof that step at both sides of your upper/lower roofs ??? Again, as much wind force as you have, lots of your rain is going at quite a angle instead of straight down. ???????

@philliprow Ай бұрын

not to mention he didnt stagger a single joint in his OSB sheeting.

@shawndonohoe2789 Ай бұрын

The wind bracing is a huge issue.

@lionelcox9119 Ай бұрын

Man you ah real roofer fa truths, cause I was like whatcha talking about,,,an opp

@lionelcox9119 Ай бұрын

So what happened to de lifting thingamajig...

@Andbygrace7024 Ай бұрын

Does he have structural design plan or just figuring it out as he goes?

@bosx Ай бұрын

Hey it’s your place do as you want. You and Jess will adapt as you always do. Have a blessed day and thank you for letting us along your journey.

@bensouthwell1339 Ай бұрын

those stones on the roof are a real treat to the eyes.

@thomas5714 Ай бұрын

Impressive. And when I started watching your channel, as you were getting into the foundation of the dome, I thought the dome was THE project, then you needed the root cellar for a pantry. I had no clue you were building an estate. I can only imagine how you'll feel moving out of the trailer and into the house. Wow.

@doneown503 Ай бұрын

I had not foreseen, this magnitude of their project ! ! Cannot wait to see the three story zip line attraction !👍🙏

@thomas5714 Ай бұрын

@@doneown503 I think they're more 'grounded.'🤔

@lmelior Ай бұрын

As I recall they were originally planning on building a second dome, but given the time and effort involved with the first dome and the issues they ran into, they decided to build a pole barn for most of the rest of the house instead. I think it's more expensive since it uses a lot more lumber, but I believe (though they haven't said this) the extra income they're getting from KZbin and sponsorships made it more feasible. Plus it's much easier on their bodies, not having to move that much dirt again.

@chandrasutton4669 Ай бұрын

Keep up the good work!!!😊🎉❤

@freqenc Ай бұрын

Imagine the rain you'll catch now.

@flyoverurbangarden4315 Ай бұрын

Dang that wind was crazy. Great job.

@PetervanderPalm Ай бұрын

My compliments for your strength to live in this difficult climate. You are real go-getters. 1 thing struck me. You don't forget to place cross beams +/- 45° between the vertical supports of the roof, do you? That makes the construction much stronger. If you make the walls of clay or stones, this is not necessary. Greetings from Peter from the Netherlands.

@TimAZ Ай бұрын

I love what you've accomplished. I've seen similar designs that are almost complete so I have a pretty good vision of what you're trying to do. Awesome! I hope you have continued success. Peace!

@Stevearratoon Ай бұрын

I’d put another layer of tape over the overlapped section of underlay or tar as you’ve run the underlay in the wrong direction with the slope. Alternatively, you could just add another roll on top in the correct direction. I’d also get some more osb and extend all the way down to the facia and add some more underlay. You don’t want leaks given straw bale walls!

@stellabrown7630 Ай бұрын

I love you guys.u are so awesome

@perlygatekeeper Ай бұрын

At 19:50 do we see one of your poles with a bend?

@RedStorm. Ай бұрын

Good show.

@cvzphotography Ай бұрын

Hey kids, dont zip tape your regualr osb. And run your underlayment horizontal.

@joebesko5592 Ай бұрын

looking good! thanks for sharing your work and experiences

@RJ-rn3uv Ай бұрын

Great job guys.

@AJ-xe7zl Ай бұрын

curious why vertical versus horizontal underlayment?

@levibrewer4304 Ай бұрын

Been watching since y’all started.

@carlottastephens-springer9156 Ай бұрын

I love watching the two of you. You are the cutest couple. Great job, you guys have come along way. Watching you work so hard makes me sweat. 😅

@PatricesProjects Ай бұрын

Good to see the roofs are coming along

@diydarkmatter Ай бұрын

is lime expensive ? just asking cause if im not mistaken and i might be lime will repair itself if it cracks when rain comes it will repair is own cracks . besides the fact it makes a great reflector of sun . seems like it would be perfect for the plaster of he dome . but if its to expensive i understand why your not using it . another thing when you lay out your tar paper if you tac a corner then pull it tight and tack he other corner then do the same thing on the bottom then do the rest of the middle you wont get them ripples in your paper . but its coming along . you guys sure pick some weird stuff to build with . how ever i did see another guy up in Canada using hay bails as a covering for his green houses and it was more like a compost pile around he building . but he was growing orange trees and grape fruits and lemons and limes . i thought that was cool seeing how them trees would die with out the heat it produced .

@CivilLibertarian11 Ай бұрын

Might not hurt to do a bit more research on proper roofing techniques. OSB should be staggered. Membrane should go perpendicular to slope. would hate to see your investment not last due to improper installment. Same amount of material, just installed correctly.

@christhompson475 Ай бұрын

This is a how to not do it right show

@nancypatricio9972 Ай бұрын

I hope he does on the other sections of the roof. I don't think the materials are cheap. It would be bad if he have leaks.

@g.m.robertson8700 Ай бұрын

@@CivilLibertarian11 great way to word your concerns,just wantin to help not blatantly accusing of bein ignorant..Sure its appreciated .

@KarlaHafdahl Ай бұрын

I love this building project, wow

@426superbee4 Ай бұрын

I do admire you for getting it moisture protected 👉👉 That is a MUST

@MrSteewped Ай бұрын

But is it really?

@426superbee4 Ай бұрын

@@MrSteewped That type of plywood 👉👉YES ! ITS A MUST! or it will fall into pieces in NO TIME 🙄🙄 all it is wood chips, and glue, compressed into plywood sheets> I really hate that type of plywood. > I will not use it 👎👎

@MrSteewped Ай бұрын

@@426superbee4 unfortunately what he did won't last long it will be an expensive repair bill

@Melissa02891 Ай бұрын

Progress on both roofs and teamwork for both of them! I can't wait till you get the metal up there it should sound nice when the rains come. I know you have plans for the other side to be a greenhouse so you'll definitely need a water source for that, I'm wondering what your plan is for collecting water off the new build? No doubt you've given it a lot of thought and have a plan waste not want not. Have a wonderful week take good care of yourselves ❤

@PetervanderPalm Ай бұрын

Bedankt

@ourselfreliantlife Ай бұрын

Thank you for the support

@wesleyBringsOtter Ай бұрын

Greetings y'all Jim that covering for the house roof, I believe you called it osb? back in my day 60s-70s we called that type of particle board Blandex, Im not sure that may have been a brand? anyways we never used it for roofing, it soaks up moisture like a sponge. So I see you taped the joints and have some good underlayment thats good. Make certain that sucker doesnt have a spot where rain can get in!! maybe even some blackjack or flexseal but get'er in the dry, you can do it! The new Source water collectors are great!!! thats so neat for you guys and the price was just right aye? Happy for you young'uns keep it up! Jim your a damn good man! and there's damn few of us left!! lol

@AlmostaGreenAcre-zs5eu Ай бұрын

Things are coming right along for sure 🙂I noticed more than just a few spots of cob coming off the main house and just curious why this isn't all hands on deck to protect that from being destroyed by the elements?

@ourselfreliantlife Ай бұрын

Even if some bits of cob come off the dome, it will be fine. The dome is coming along.

@AlmostaGreenAcre-zs5eu Ай бұрын

@@ourselfreliantlife Very good. I wasn't sure but it looked like quite a bit.

@triscuitfarms Ай бұрын

It’s coming together so well, it’s about to go really fast too

@albertdehn8381 Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing 😀👍

@raystevens687 Ай бұрын

Talking about straight lines I'm impressed.

@deannahenrichs50 Ай бұрын

Looking great!!

@Andbygrace7024 Ай бұрын

What about the other half of the roof??

@spacedredd Ай бұрын

Things are coming together. I'm really interested in you rain/solar water catchment system. How's that solar (moister farming) system been working? Also on that huge beautiful cistern how much water have you got at this time? I watched all of vids on the building of that cistern, what a wonderful solution for long term water storage in the desert.

@ralphkearns7600 Ай бұрын

I am a bit curious, would it have been easier to have known the measurement needed and cut before putting the lumber up and then cutting?

@franklucero1728 Ай бұрын

Awesome Guys... great job,,, living off grid is great!!!!! love the way you compliment each other....

@lionelcox9119 Ай бұрын

I think you guys should rear some soldier flies larvae for the chickens and dog

@denyhaynes31 Ай бұрын

Great job 👍👍👍👍👍

@hombredeacero3131 Ай бұрын

Lots of progress by each of you great job.

@carolflynn7933 Ай бұрын

❤ wonderful ❤

@Oldnoitall Ай бұрын

Almost ready for a blower door test

@jamesreedii1804 Ай бұрын

Supposed to do the strips across first then the up and down

@elizabethcastello5496 Ай бұрын

Team work makes the dream work❤

@RandysRichmond Ай бұрын

Did you roll that zip tape with a roller? The rollers don't cost that much. I seen a lot of bubbles so just some advice you should roll those seams when you tape them.

@dennisrobbins5451 Ай бұрын

Hey , I'm sure a great amount of work went into getting the particle board on the roof. However, you may have made a couple of mistakes. The first one being you did not stager the seams. Was this on purpose? The second one is the edges of your particles boards do not line up on the rafters. Was this intentionally done? I have not watched the entire video yet, but if the beginning was how you did the underlayment that may have also been applied in a fashion that might cause you problems down the road. As the first or begining run of the underlayment should be at the lowest part of the roof then you work upwards. Overall, I like that your channel is all about trying new ways of being self-sufficient. I just hope these things don't cause you grief in the future.

@ericjohnson1008 Ай бұрын

This is exciting to see, can't hardly wait for what's coming up next.

@blindnessisaspectrum6237 Ай бұрын

Should there be a concern about the weight of the rocks and mud on the roof of the dome before the finish on the exterior walls. I would be afraid of collapse.

@grandn8646 Ай бұрын

What was the mix that you used to seal the fascia boards?

@SandraCrockett Ай бұрын

Winter is a comin'!

@samday9328 Ай бұрын

Using staples to secure your roof underlay seems a bit "iffy". Don't you run the risk of the wind tearing the material there the staple is? Other videos I have seen have nails with plastic washers that provide a greater area under the washer to sandwich the material between the washer and OSB.

@daleadkison3349 Ай бұрын

Nice progress. I'm learning so much watching you.

@ourselfreliantlife Ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

@omegaroyal Ай бұрын

Looking forward to the next!

@ftoftheX Ай бұрын

Excuse my ignorance, but what is the tape on the OSB for?

@TKomoski Ай бұрын

Zip System Window, Sheathing Flashing Tape 3.75” x 90ft

@ftoftheX Ай бұрын

@TKomoski OK, got it. Does it keep air out or moisture? I'm not sure of its purpose. Ty

@jimcalver-oj4xf Ай бұрын

Good question, as the OSB is a structural support for the roofing material, it is not a waterproof layer and so sealing those seams serves no purpose. There should be a transition flashing / dripedge at the bottom of the slope, and under the roof felt, or what is the waterproof layer under the metal panels. This prevents water runoff from curling under the roof edge and soaking into the OSB. Agreed with another commentor, the structure should have crossbracing at the outside and horizontally from side to side. Siding on infill wood walls will serve this need. Good luck!

@ftoftheX Ай бұрын

@@jimcalver-oj4xf thank you

@paulvanhouts3365 Ай бұрын

From what I have seen on other builds, the OSB that is made by the ZIP system has a film already adhered to it to waterproof it, a green colored film. That tape works with that film as a waterproof, weatherproofing during the build and is intended to give longevity to that panel. As applied to untreated OSB well, it’s not clear what the benefit is as water can seep through the untreated panels, if it gets under the roofing material. Watch Simple Life Reclaimed and look for their roofing work, still to be finished but they used the ZIP system.

@rociobowers7189 Ай бұрын

God job!!

@jameskibbey6171 Ай бұрын

Looking good….👍😎

@janicedunn895 Ай бұрын

looks like you started securing the underlayment vertically and then corrected your error by laying it horizontally. Good you noticed the mistake.

@stanniemi7929 Ай бұрын

Zip tape does not work with OSB panels, only with Zip panels.

@richardstoc Ай бұрын

Pardon me but doesn't the roof have to extend 18in - 2ft over and beyond the straw bail wall it just seems a little short because the bails are not in place and the base is outside of the Post and just seems like adobe the walls they are going to need a lot more protection from Wind and Rain, Sun especially in Arizona all those walls are traditionally covered with a lime plaster .?

@ram1brn Ай бұрын

I swear them Arizona tea jugs are fantastic very durable I have had mine for years and in continious use

@Melicoy Ай бұрын

Looking Good. Keep on trucking. Thanks

@MattTheVegan Ай бұрын

👏👏👏

@g.m.robertson8700 Ай бұрын

@@MattTheVegan real people eat meat

@MattTheVegan Ай бұрын

@@g.m.robertson8700 The fact that you went out of your way to leave a comment like this tells me you’re an insecure person. Good luck with that.

@yunussuleman9690 Ай бұрын

Hi Jim I have to say you put underlay very loose lots of curl and now staples is done so you can't . next time please tight underlay.

@richardsolomon8076 Ай бұрын

Bro how long ago were the livestream on the roof seshions? GDP

@Mary-cb5jx Ай бұрын

Great job 👍, looking forward to next week 👍

@doneown503 Ай бұрын

I'll be 🙏🙏 they do not get stiff winds , before next .

@9-o-mine Ай бұрын

Has your water proof method changed for the dome since visting that place a couple weeks back? Those rocks are looking very beautiful on the dome! I love that stoned look lol

@VG-yh3ci Ай бұрын

Hello again, love the videos! I have a separate question. In Cochise county do you have tie down your storage container or do you just put it on blocks or slab so the wind doesn’t move it?? Thank you kindly, V

@daviddiaz7600 8 күн бұрын

What is the estimated weight of your cob roof??

@frandoyle5608 Ай бұрын

As much time as you spend on your knees, you should get a set of knee pads. You will be happier in 20 years if you do!

@wadeprior5203 Ай бұрын

Hey buddy how you doing I just got back from church hope you're having a great day is it hot out there make sure you drink plenty of water and say hi to everybody else and the wife and the family❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉

@timf6916 Ай бұрын

Good luck

@ralphkearns7600 Ай бұрын

Buckets of rock and wet cob are heavy!!!

@johnnyd2375 Ай бұрын

I guess this side is the practice for the other side. Do yourself a favor and read some of the already posted suggestions on proper roofing methods. Please Don’t make the same mistakes on the other side. Staggered osb joints, add a fascia board at the end of rafters to end nail osb boards, Run Waterproofing horizontally not Vertically, no need for flashing osb to one another, don’t staple waterproofing creating holes in the waterproofing. Hope this helps.

@lokilyesmyth Ай бұрын

Why did you run the underlayment vertically? Water can easily seep sideways onto the OSB, which swells when wet. It should be run horizontally, you could just go by the writing on the product. You need a much larger lap when you join vertical seems. Also with a low slope you should double felt/underlay to prevent wind from pushing water up onto the wood. Seems a shame to do all that work and have leaks down the road. Not to mention that with no stagger pattern on your OSB the roof is weaker.