WE PLAYED IN A cEDH TOURNAMENT! - PLAY TO WIN TOURNAMENT REPORT

Dylan, Cam, and Tyler talk about their experience from the Play To Win cEDH Tournament at Cloud City Games
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[@danielgordon8719]

Jhoira player here - great recap of a great tournament! Was fun seeing Cam’s reaction on the Grand Abolisher miss. :) Congrats Tyler!

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

It was great meeting you! Thanks for coming out!!

[@estebanmarco8755]

I love Jhoira as a storm commander, my first step in cEDH.

[@StrawHat4Lif3]

Thanks Tyler for the name drop and compliment! I look forward to jamming cEDH with you and the rest of Play to Win at your next event!

[@GoldenSkeeter]

Nice one piece reference 😂

[@cobaltbeau]

Re: the impact of luck in Magic tournaments (really, almost all CCG tournaments) - I've always heard that you need three things to win: Good prep, Good play, and Good luck. All three are integral. I've also heard it as specifically 'spiking' tournaments to emphasize the importance of luck in them.

[@nragath7423]

Atraxa player here from Dylan's first game, Cam's third game, and Tyler's fourth game. You guys sure made that a great tournament! Really hope to play against you all again soon. Congrats to Tyler for the win!

[@camrontaylor542]

It's awesome that you guys have assembled a community of like-minded players that seems to have overall really positive energy. The number of times you guys said something like "in 3rd seat was a Magda player." "OH, that Magda player was so nice!!" "Yeah totally he was a cool guy"

[@donotunsubscribe]

Really dig displaying all four commanders and showing their plays overtop. That really helps visualize what's going on at the table. Nice video!

[@loganator326]

I forget who said this quote, but I remember someone saying "If you win a tournament you're probably good, but you're definitely lucky." Tournament play is definitely a decent helping of luck, and sometimes the cards aren't always in your favor. Glad to hear most of the boys made it to final rounds

[@ToastyWaffle7710]

I love how Cam describes his games. It felt like I was there. Awesome!

[@Sivarias]

Tyler, I was seat 1 pod one. Playing the homebrew Pako and Haldan list. And after talking it over lunch, I do think the gilded drake was the wrong call on Korvold, simply because there is more non-creature interaction in the format. Someone should have had a counter spell for the reanimation spells.

[@mspencer161]

Hey man have you got a deck list?

[@pe3der]

Ah that's right!! Sorry I forgot. Gotta take some tournament notes next time, everything I said in this episode was just what I could remember 4 days later

[@bigsil9922]

Love the editing on this one, really cool to see the commanders and the cards said commander was using 10/10 would watch again

[@bensteinhauser784]

Dylan, glad to see you're staying positive after the tournament! As mentioned at multiple points in the video, getting lucky is essential to winning a tournament and with cEDH, a lot of loses are completely out of your hands. Keeping your head up and moving forward isn't always easy, but it's definitely the way to go!

[@matthewspear2053]

At 20:05 when Tyler talks about his big no no, the penalty for this is a match loss in his next game. I assume nobody called a judge, but Tyler got lucky nobody did.

[@cesarcarrizales7162]

Love the report! Hopefully yall have some more videos like this. It's enjoyable hearing yalls experience and how your games went.

[@xinyuanchen7853]

It was a great tournament, thanks to Cloud City and y'all for running an excellent event! I had a blast playing, looking forward to the next one! After T1 Gambling a Dockside to the graveyard in R3 and the mull to 3 in semis, I'm tilted off of playing Niv-Mizzet next time lmao I remember looking at Tyler's finals pod at one point, and he had 5-6 permanents, including Kinnan, The One Ring, Void Winnower, etc, and then I looked over at Tayam and his entire field is a lone Young Wolf lmao

[@xinyuanchen7853]

I played "this is my second day of cEDH" guy round 3, he smoked my pod too haha

[@pe3der]

Chen you should just try kinnan 😛

[@michaelatbarnett]

Display during the recap of the table and plays to the side was a great choice! Loved this episode

[@ljlk8583]

pir and toothy is the first deck I ever made and it's still one of my favourites, I absolutely love it. Glad to finally see it getting the recognition it deserves!

[@ljlk8583]

gotta say it's so cool to see the play to win tournament on edhtop16, including the new highest standing for codie!

[@jcollins14]

If Command Tower is the software used, it 'screenshots' the list at the time of the event starting so that there is a separate, unlisted copy of your list so people can see what was in your deck at the time.

[@philipptenelsen4755]

going to my first cedh tournament in 2 days, this was awesome content and very helpful. keep up the good work guys

[@mirthoutofmire]

When I first started playing kinnan, seedborn got me through so many games around me but I haven't ever gone to a tournament to know how good it is there

[@bobthor9647]

Congratulations 🎉on winning and also the rest doing pretty well , cool tournament and video ❤

[@carmenhazard8492]

didnt get to play against any of ya, but it was a great tournament and im lookin forward to the next one!! gonna run back my malcolm tymna

[@Koshersquid]

Digging Dylan’s Scowl shirt, caught them live in Austin last year!

[@tylercraig5633]

Saw them with Jesus Piece and Zulu last year in Atlanta!

[@TheRDRipley]

Aaaaaaayyyyeeee! Go, Tyler. One of the things I love about having him on the podcast is you can tell he really thinks through plays, cards, etc. Not saying the other Cam and Dillon don't but Tyler takes it to another level.

[@ShadowStriker7X]

Great Recap! Love the content

[@CHoustonify]

As someone who is rapidly careening toward elderliness and decrepitude, I got exhausted just *hearing* Tyler talk about how he *didn't* stay up doing revelry all night before the tournament. Congratulations Tyler!

[@Flip4Crypt]

Fuck yeah! I've played Kinnan since he first came out, I've loved seeing the transition of all of Tyler's Kinnan decks- congrats to all!

[@nathanstruble8587]

I really enjoyed this video. I’d love to see more if y’all play again like this.

[@TheRDRipley]

On the moxfield note, it's fairly easy for them to implement something like "version history". The issue being how they hold the data on the backend (and I say "issue" because my educated guess based on my database developer knowledge is their database structure doesn't track the deck as a whole but rather the individual cards tied to the deck). They already have individual add/remove card history so all they would need to do is instead of tracking each individual change (they dont NEED to remove this but if they didnt it could make their database structure overally complicated and possibly break the version history), they could either do it as an autosave snapshot for you or have you hit "save" when you want to track the changes you made that were over time. That would save a snapshot in their internal database that would be the same look but with "/v2" on the end (or whatever version) so you can just paste that link into wherever you want and that would give you a frozen in time copy of the deck.

[@timothykrzywonski]

Cool rundown, the edit is also great

[@guilhermekrueger666]

Love the scowl t-shirt, great band and great recap

[@damo9961]

That nervous feeling of making any sort of final round is so good.

[@keernalc5423]

Definitely liked this type of video hope to see more in the future!

[@SirStickBug]

Perplexing Chimera feels like the creature version of Chain of Vapor sometimes lol.

[@Halospartan151]

I have a folder full of either cEDH tournament lists that are just copies I made of my 98/99 the morning of that I never look at ever again, or archived modern decks

[@SeriosSkies92]

im on thras/tymna and moonsnare prototype is always in it. like springleaf drum makes the cut, how is springleaf drum but optional removal + pitchable to forces not?

[@B1ngusD1ngus]

If someone reads this tell Dylan to just use to wayback machine with moxfield to check older iterations of decks

[@timtauber5557]

Grats guys, good showing. Tyler won with Kinnan, this seems like no surprise.

[@Xreaperification]

Can't wait till you lads get huge

[@wesleypollek4637]

Congrats on Tyler on the big win, but even bigger W for the will power to stay locked in and not be hungover!

[@mandielyn0416]

Now we all know the secret, you have to eat a whole ass for breakfast to win tournament.

[@busterledet1139]

Command Tower already has a ''lock deck lists'' feature. If you guys need an experienced TO for your next one, please reach out!

[@joskajiri]

cg guys for your placements! u gotta go for more tournaments and vid talk about them, amazing content! Also, what did u win??

[@xteam_avatar]

can someone explain how codie stacks? how do u get two codie triggers on the stack?

[@MrWader76]

Five times five is shfifty shfifty shfifty!

[@BerentBatur]

Seems like I can’t find the blood pod used in the event. Seems like the link here is broken and the top16 page has it missing. Any chance you could share?

[@mattiavancini5536]

Really good video guys, i need a suggestion i like play tayam but i never know what is the best way for her.. Do you think the adnauseam one is better than the stax one?

[@M1911pap]

@6:30 did this man straight faced say "Casual Tergrid" XD

[@blakey9869]

Tournaments do require an amount of luck, but it also requires a huge amount of skill to limit the negative results of bad luck while maximizing your positive benefits from good luck

[@healthylife1499]

Basically, life and success wrapped up in a sentence!!

[@tiyoweh3]

Could you please link your atraxa deck? I wasn’t able to find it in the tournament link. Thank you 🙏

[@mikenewman92]

As someone looking to get into cEDH - you guys put out the best content. Informative, fun and interactive. Keep up the great work!

[@Googleflax]

With the prevalence of cards like The One Ring and Orcish Bowmasters, is there any possibility of Cast Into the Fire seeing any play? I know the best case scenario is to just counter The One Ring, but there are many cases in which it comes down too early, or it gets played in a small window where no one has a counter available, and from that point on, it's basically locked on the board sans a Cyc Rift. 2 mana for interaction is on the higher end of what you want to play in cEDH, but I feel like it's versatile enough where it might at least be worth looking into?

[@Snamify]

I understand Dylan when he thinks about taking a Grixis list to the next tournament BUT everyone is expecting Grixis lists en mass in the tournament scene. So the better strategy would be staying with birthing pod. The statistics also prove birthing pod to be a viable list even in tournaments. I also have two major lists: Tymna/ Tana Greenfarm and Tevesh/Kraum TurboNaus. And Tnt are also pretty viable and can win out of nowhere.

[@TheGrifcannon22]

@51:39 that's the name of the movie!

[@codybean8707]

Pre rant: this video was great and I loved hearing your first hand accounts :) the wisdom and humility from you all is wonderful. I strongly believe politics and player manipulation is a huge part of this game. And its such a issue in cedh for money games. I love the format, dont get me wrong. Yet there are so many times i recall being kingmade, lied to about interaction, watched people not listen to the other player to pay for rhystic, etc. I guess its luck to have players that dont respect cards, hand count, and board presence.

[@jacobs2725]

Is there an active cedh discord? Or are most of the active ones through patreon?

[@Jesterofyugi]

2 out of 3 of you guys have last names of animals. Interesting coincidence of becoming friends :p gj you guys

[@oscarperezcame]

I have a question: how does it work in these tourmanents? You only get points if you win the match or you also get points if you defeat a player? I'm asking cuz I'm from Costa Rica and I've never watched or participated in a tournament abroad

[@pe3der]

Typically it's 4 or 5 points for a win and 1 for a draw. 0 for a loss. No player elimination points, and if the pod ties after one player is eliminated that player still gets the point for the tie

[@oscarperezcame]

@@pe3der thanks for the info

[@sambrown9475]

I have a question: Do you guys allow proxies in your tournaments? And if so, is there a limit to how many? And do they have to look good? I've been wanting to get into cedh for a while, but the price point is way too high to even consider trying without the allowance of proxies 😅 Ps. No, they wouldn't just be lands that have been drawn on😅

[@jasongarner3575]

I missed the last ticket because I hesitated, but I need more time to learn more about the cEDH rules and ettiquete anyway

[@alexduea]

Interested in the Tayam list that made it to Top 16. Anyone able to locate that?

[@Teknomahge]

I enjoyed the tournament report. How did the Ob Nixilis player fare? Was he in the parking lot muttering curses to Kinnan under his breath?

[@BraxtonMeyer]

You love to see Simic on top!!!!!! Both Ian and Tyler dominating with Kinnan "Big Lips" bonder prodigious

[@brendenmcevoy8114]

Scowl shirt goes crazy 🔥

[@bobthor9647]

Tyler’s Tergrid deck is still listed as the winner- you may want to try and correct this error .

[@maxxlanglois]

Are these tournaments proxy friendly? Because I don't have 10k to put on a deck at the moment, recovering from a severe injury. But I wanna get into cEDH

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Yes!

[@pitakon]

I'm tired of people saying cedh players are just a bunch of try hards and that casual is where fun is. In my experience the fun players are usually with the cedh crowds and the casual crowds are the whiney bunch who seems to get angry all the time if opponents win or their decks doesn't go off their way. Kinda sad the tayam player has a 404 decklist. Here's hoping Jeffrey posts his deck.

[@MrWader76]

Where was this held?

[@garrettleblanc7926]

I literally had that same situation where I had a WA and my oppo played tainted pact and I should have casted it but I didn't. That person won lol

[@Medicinalmagic911]

50:40 ❤ faster is better. Dargo Cisco 🎉🎉!! Parasitic pirates . All the turn 2 wins you want

[@WerrWaaa]

Y'all make me wanna play cEDH.

[@yurplethepurple2064]

Hop on cockatrice! It’s a ton of fun once you get past the setup difficulty

[@lvletal]

Think of a 64 player tournament as if it were a 32 player 1v1 tournament, so only 16 pairings. After 2 of the 4 rounds of a non commander tournament there is normally a maximum of 4 undefeated players. In an edh 64 player tourney that could be as low as 2 undefeated players due to draw in rounds hitting time. So 2 wins in the first two rounds is nearly impossible to not hit top 16 in a 4 round tourney.🎉 grats

[@antareshansen6506]

It would be cool to see yall 3 and the codie player play a cuple games just an idea

[@vitormolinari6180]

Damn, I would kill for a nice Pir & Toothy list

[@andrewkelley6039]

What's the average game time at cEDH tournies?

[@bobthor9647]

Speaking of decklists - the Korvold 1st place deck of a treasure series is still listed as the winner even though the player was disqualified for cheating . The integrity of the current decklist system seems a bit dubious imo

[@towelociraptor]

Without already having mulled to like 5, Tayam shouldn't keep a 1-lander unless the hand has enough to still cast tayam on-curve and get out a control piece or 2 beforehand. It's never gonna work out well

[@wyattcalcote5867]

Yippie! Tyler!

[@mrtuber132]

Love this!

[@kennethritacco6959]

Damn a lot of Tivit players got shafted on seating.

[@dwightpatch4441]

It was a great event

[@blarghonkhonk]

Who played tayam and can I see the lust

[@timtauber5557]

Cedh tournaments seem odd to me. Typically tournaments are 1 v.s. 1, but pods make this kind of weird. The winner progresses into the winner bracket and all the others go to the loser bracket. This has to make for a weird tree. Hope you guys figure out the pairing thing. Again good job guys.

[@CaptainPlant]

Dylan: Derevi not Daretti right Cam: Yeah Derevi, bant not red Cam: Yeah so anyways I played against Daretti...

[@mackenner-aspery2715]

i love play to win

[@swiftmic8402]

I wish it was easier to find CEDH events. Cedh has always felt like an inclusive group. Almost like you gotta know people to even be invited to the event because NO ONE is promoting their events.

[@GoldSabertooth]

Please get Chen on the Channel!

[@drawando8588]

Oh yea luck definitly plays a role. Like how i flipped a birthing pod of a ragavan in a tournament i won into a dockside

[@kaitlyndavis6861]

When ur next torment

[@DabbleDo]

Shiggity what? Shfifty five

[@p111SC]

Tyler won his own tournament? RIGGED ;)

[@bobbytoth2393]

Cam... I swear to god, I love this channel but if you say Daretti instead of Derevi one more time. I'm gonna completely lose my shit 😄

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Lol, i'm gunna start saying "the bant one" from now on

[@jonahrounsley8375]

scowl shirt im more of a fan now

[@Scriibble4]

Scowl >

[@jamoikamal]

I can't believe this guy cheated 😂😂

[@kingsquibblebort]

I can teach you tournament math

[@abrahamdrinkin2534]

Atraxa has become very parasitic. If the table plays responsibly, it won’t do much. But if the table is greedy, it will pop off. Speaking as an Atraxa player

[@letsmakeit110]

lying about being new is the oldest trick in the book

[@thecitizen6860]

I usedd to play in alot of tournaments. But too many dishonest players out there now.