We Ranked Every White Guy (w/ Ted Nivison) | Sad Boyz

[@martymcflown3707]

The discussion of Ted's ADHD diagnosis leading to like a 20 minute segment discussing the minor detail of him having mozz sticks was the most ADHD thing I've ever seen. I related so hard.

[@Lucifersfursona]

Unknown popularity adhd opinion; I like listening to other adhd people have conversations more than nt conversations

[@friendlyneigborhoodbean]

@@Lucifersfursona fr because it goes along the same trajectory as my brain

[@shlogo1119]

​@@LucifersfursonaNever agreed with something more

[@zippityzoop1478]

I want those fat mozzarella sticks from chilis now

[@sidhackney8831]

​@@Lucifersfursona Yes NTs would have moved on but *we need to hear more about the mozz sticks*

[@pearachu5363]

The whole "have you taken your medicine?" thing is a pretty close equivalent to "is it that time of the month?"

[@joshuadarling7439]

It's so aggravating. My experience is not lesser than simply because I didn't take a pill.

[@amaliaschwartzmetz2949]

Idk sometimes i appreciate it because i have so much trouble regulating my emotions when im not on my medication and even tho it can be patronizing at times, most of the time i actually didnt take it and it helps me realize why im so upset over something that wouldn’t typically make me upset. But i also have a really good relationship to my mom so when she says that i know its not her trying to be patronizing and genuinely trying to help

[@Boooo_39]

The kicker When you get asked both

[@elle_rose_xx]

@@Boooo_39it’s infuriating I feel this pain

[@jordan9240]

the adhd meds to mozzarella sticks convo is so quintisentally a-conversation-with-adhders its truly beautiful

[@albent4604]

Hearing about the boys being taken under a teacher's wing literally made me cry because as a kid with ADHD I wanted to be the teachers pet so bad and I tried so hard to be their friend but literally every single one would try their hardest to pretend I didn't exist because they thought I needed to stop seeking attention

[@albent4604]

I remember thinking my friends were so stupid for having favourite teachers because "teachers don't wanna be FRIENDS with KIDS the only reason they're here is because they're getting paid" and being so confused and hurt when other kids would develop a relationship with the teachers

[@genericname8727]

It’s also possible they worried if you seemed to eager to be their friend that it could be unprofessional. Like, idk if it applies to how you were, but some kids would struggle to understand the professional boundaries if the teacher let them develop a more personal connection. Even if that doesn’t apply to your situation I think if applies to others. Teachers need to be very careful in situations like that

[@Gladiva19]

​@@genericname8727I definitely agree. Especially when dealing with minors, you have to be INCREDIBLY explicit about drawing boundaries. Especially about personal life matters.

[@Teddie_Vision]

OMG I WANTED TO BE LIKED BY MY TEACHERS SO BAD 😭😭

[@Aussie_Archmage]

@@albent4604 Highly relatable, though I wasn't really trying to be a "teacher's pet". I'm sorry you had that experience, I can imagine that felt very isolating for you too. My favourite teachers were the ones that didn't publicly humiliate me by yelling at me and belittling/insulting me in front of the class whenever my (at the time undiagnosed) ADHD led me to forget homework or to be distracted in class. I think genuinely I can count maybe four teachers over my school career who treated me with any form of dignity, and of them only two who I would describe as any kind of supportive, neither of whom I had as a teacher for more than 12 months. While I agree that teachers do need to be careful in their relationships with students, it's one thing to be cautious and professional, quite another entirely to ignore a student entirely and provide no support or guidance. I imagine however your use of the word friends is more contextualising a positive non-familial relationship from your childhood self's perspective.

[@saff4997]

jarvis speaks so slowly sometimes that it leads to some funny sound bites. “i eat… people…”

[@vitalitytwo]

"I used to eat.. I think a lot of people."

[@FlyoverStatePark]

Funny story about a generic brand. I take Sertraline (the generic brand for Zoloft) for anxiety and a few years ago it suddenly started having a sweet vanilla flavor to it. At first I thought I was imagining it, but after one anxious month, I started wondering if they had, for some strange reason, given me sugar pills as a placebo medicine for my anxiety. Finally I googled about it and found a reddit thread discussing what had happened. Apparently, they added a vanilla coating to the pill without saying anything. It was really gratifying reading all of the comments of the post because everyone was having the same anxiety trip over the last few months. I still can't believe they changed the flavor of an anxiety medication without saying a word. It feels like a prank.

[@phobos_irl]

damn fingers crossed the vanilla flavor comes quickly to europe i want a taste asap (disclailer : sertraline is already in my prescription)

[@JazzyFizzleDrummers]

When I was on it, it made my mouth taste metallic. I'm on buproprion now which occasionally smells/tastes like eggs. Fingers crossed for cheesy omlette flavor haha.

[@mmtittle]

i take sertaline and i guess i just never noticed the change lmao

[@juicetuber]

i'm on sertraline and i HATE the vanilla taste it's so off putting

[@Trash.girl.chic.]

Omg the vanilla flavor was so horrible and I told my psychiatrist and she was like what

[@AKA253]

The medication stuff Ted was talking about hit SO hard for me, with his mom asking “did you take your medication” when there was a disagreement is something I faced with my family for FAR too long. It’s not usually meant to be hurtful or anything, but it feels incredibly dismissive when my parents responded to me having negative feelings and reaching out for help with “did you take your meds today”. It’s usually coming from a place of care, but at the end of it all, whether or not I’ve taken my meds isn’t the concern. My reactions are my reactions, I’m feeling bad and am looking for comfort in the moment. No amount of alarms that remind me to take my Zoloft each day is going to change that.

[@Cheyscrochetshop]

Haha yeahhhh like I do need my meds but I’m telling you how I’m feeling because I wanted human comfort

[@SheWhoWalksSilently]

It’s the “are you on your period?” of the neurodivergent folk 😑

[@victoriakerr5130]

I didn't even realize this was an issue that I've encountered so much with my own family. But I'm recognizing how it hurt me to hear as a child and also how it hurts to hear as an adult now.

[@salemcrow5078]

parents will be like "y'know medication won't solve all your problems :/ you need to be self responsible" and then when you start having any problems simultaneously they'll hit you with "did you take your meds :/"

[@Eiffiel]

I also felt this so hard. My previous anxiety meds used to give me a headache if I missed a dose, and then I'd be irritable, because headache. But "did you forget your meds" became a shorthand with my parents for "you seem irrational and overly emotional" I was a teenager, of course I felt emotional sometimes! Just so dismissive and invalidating.

[@mircat-dh3is]

Toby being short for Tobuscus literally made me tip over on my bed laughing so hard, oh my god

[@squid7855]

As a future pharmacist I love hearing people talk about their drugs because I can hear an actual patient’s unbiased experience. I’m grateful the boys are this comfortable with their audience❤️

[@mmybickers]

I think Vyvanse gang (I'm a member) don't feel anything on the other drugs because the mechanism of action is so different? Vyvanse is a pro-drug vs the salt from what I understand... like Jarvis, I also have fatigue issues. I'm really imaging we're going to finally get some research on all these after long COVID etc.

[@Kingbimmy]

⁠@@mmybickersdo you have long Covid? I’ve had issues since I had Covid in January of this year, and medication has definitely helped out, but generally I’m not back to how I was before then. My fatigue is insanely bad, and I developed POTS and it’s been hell 😭

[@lunaskisses]

​​@@mmybickersVyvanse and Adderall work on CYP2D6 receptors, "Cytochrome P450 2D6 (CYP2D6) is expressed at high levels in the brain and plays a considerable role in the biotransformation and neurotransmission of dopamine", whereas methylphenidate is not metabolized through cyp2d6. this could potentially be a reason?

[@lunaskisses]

​@@mmybickersI have severe fatigue and ADHD and have taken Vyvanse, amphet salts, meth (illicit), Adderall, concertA, and Ritalin, and all have helped my fatigue BUT I think Vyvanse gave me the most 'calm' energy. I also have CYP2D6 poor metabolization, which is something to consider. also, woah! just read this: "Children and adults who are Poor or Ultrarapid metabolizers should avoid amphetamine. However, they can take lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse), which is independent of CYP2D6 metabolism. Amphetamines carry a higher risk for agitation and psychotic or manic symptoms in teens." so apparently my information is wrong our outdated and Vyvanse is NOT metabolized through cyp2d6 (I believe I learned about Vyvanse being metabolized this way from my genetic testing done in 2018 so information may have changed since then or I'm misremembering)

[@mmybickers]

@@Kingbimmy I have a post-viral fatigue profile from waaaay before COVID, probably EBV. But most researchers are pointing out it's kind of... the exact same thing, like a fever can be caused from different things. My daughter has long COVID and we both have POTS, fatigue, worsened asthma, MCAS, etc. I'm kinda the canary down the coal mine with this stuff, so I'm glad the world is at least a LITTLE BIT paying attention now.

[@saraisreading4231]

As a teacher, it’s really refreshing to hear people speak positively of teachers. We’ve been getting a lot of shit lately. Thanks boyz ❤️❤️

[@ellieofficialvevo]

teachers are heroes 🫡

[@plankton2507]

I’ve had some shitty teachers but nothing sticks with you quite like the ones that truly care ❤ in the US, being a teacher is a risky job. getting sick all the time, violence very much on the rise, the iffy workload/ pay ratio, and seeing bright kids come from neglectful homes must be so draining. yet you show up with papers graded & a smile on your face. trust me, it’s not lost on the majority of us how hard you guys work!

[@kb7633]

You're a hero and an incredible person for dealing with the shit the education system puts you through and still having this level of positivity and love for your profession. keep going ❤❤

[@hayleyquinnx94]

the 'have you taken your meds' thing is real but also both me and my partner have adhd and I ask that a lot bc we both sometimes skip doses (short release so 3x a day so we might skip afternoons for example) and his bad moods are a lot more obvious externally if he's missed a dose, he just tends to get more flustered and frustrated and apathetic when it comes to making decisions. So like if something bad happens at work and he's on meds he gets annoyed or upset but is able to articulate that and judge if it's worth saying anything or letting it go where as off meds he's more likely to speak first and find himself stuck going in circles with someone when he'd normally just leave it. I worry now that my asking if he's had meds when he's in a outwardly bad mood could come off like that, but also it helps to know where he's at meds wise because that might change how I then approach things... tbf it's also easy to tell with me too because my short term memory disappears and I never have a single idea what I'm doing or what's going on at any time off meds.

[@Gustoberg]

Guys gals and enbys, let's all give a big shoutout to teachers

[@oliviab26]

Hearing Ted talk about his elementary school, knowing I went to the same one is so interesting. I’m from the same town as Ted, and the academics are very intense there. But the elementary school we both went to was the reason I was able to diagnosed with ADHD SO young as a girl. I was diagnosed at age 7, and barely had any hyperactivity. A teacher at the elementary school caught it and got consent from my parents to record my behavior in order to get a diagnosis. She still asks about me when she sees my mom in the grocery store.The early intervention and inclusion of the special ed students within our classes is why I was able to succeed and accept that I am disabled. Being in occupational therapy with the kid who had cerebral palsy allowed me to understand others and myself from a young age, and i’m forever grateful for that experience. The school may have been rather crunchy, hippie and weird, but it quite obviously produces successful, creative people. Very curious if the teacher who had ted lead transitions is the same one who got me diagnosed. I wouldn’t be surprised.

[@trustthesauce]

Sorry to ask but what does crunchy mean in this context?

[@oliviab26]

@@trustthesauce i guess in this context i’m using it to mean like organic, natural, artistic and liberal. no need to be sorry

[@trustthesauce]

@@oliviab26 I've never heard of crunchy being used this way (only to describe a texture) so thanks for teaching me something new!

[@victai163]

​@@trustthesauceit's from the phrase "crunchy granola" lol

[@sidhackney8831]

​@@victai163 Which now that I think about it must be from a time when granola was something only hippies ate? Granola feels pretty mainstream these days

[@tovelandstrom2918]

I never considered that you guys don't do slöjd in school, it was the best! Slöjd is "handicraft" i guess, and everyone alternates between sewing class and woodworking class. / Swede

[@Emi8ly]

My school in Canada had it but it was called practical and applied arts and we did half home economics and half industrial arts (woodworking)

[@the_bearer_of_truth00]

US here and neither of those were ever required at any level, but there were options for it in high school (besides specifically sewing). Luckily my grandma was a home ec teacher so she taught me how to sew.

[@peterevans6480]

yoooo another swedeee

[@helplessheroine2641]

​@@Emi8lyhome economics in Sweden is learning to cook and bake simple things and how to make a budget, how loans work, etc

[@Kultleder]

We also do it in Denmark! It’s so much fun!

[@Dinomater_]

It almost sounds like the school Ted went to when growing up, was based on Scandinavian elementary schools. Calling teachers by their first name and having "sloyd" (doing woodwork etc) as a subject is super common here (at least where I'm from)

[@Lucifersfursona]

Damn it that word is fantastic Shlohjd Good shit

[@jacqueline4689]

This would totally make sense! My high school was founded by a Spanish woman and there are some key differences between it and other area schools because of it

[@lovisadouhan8261]

It's mandatory in the whole country

[@kk-bz7pf]

lmao, that’s a lot of schools in boston area tho- that’s how it is here at my school

[@HardcoreHunterCadima006]

I literally gasp with joy every time Sad Boyz posts

[@sunlitChaos]

I gasp with fear

[@catsarefancy9053]

Same. They are my comfort podcast and I look forward to it every week.

[@normalguy246]

as a burnt out former GT student (k-10th grade) who was only recently diagnosed w ADHD it hurts so bad that my parents refused to provide me any help throughout school bc i could've done so much better than i did and all they did was blame me :/ but hearing other ppl talk about their experiences is so comforting and you guys could never imagine how much ur openness and candor abt mental health means to me

[@Kingbimmy]

Same! I was diagnosed with autism and adhd much later, after finishing school, and if I had known sooner I could’ve had so much more help. My parents also didn’t understand and thought I was just lazy or something, and would push me way too hard. 😭

[@spacejinkies]

@@Kingbimmysaaame but I was diagnosed and my mom at one point started telling me I outgrew it

[@pebbleslikesthings]

idk if y’all have any plans to make a part 2 to this tier list but if yall did here are some suggestions: jim (nickname for james), matt, noah, ben/benjamin, don, john, scott, mark

[@Lucifersfursona]

My brain, not the best: Don John Scott Mark Don John Scott Mark Don John Scott Mark

[@Kingbimmy]

I was diagnosed with autism at age 20, and adhd THIS year at age 27. And adderall had been so fucking life changing. I don’t feel at all different in creative terms or experience that “zombie” feeling that a lot of people describe having. It’s been incredible at helping quiet alllll the noises I can’t otherwise shut up or follow cohesively. I’m finally able to focus on a task and not be distressed about it. I also got prescribed it for my low blood pressure that was effecting me a lot, and it has helped enormously with that. I have the non hyperactive kind of adhd, so it doesn’t necessarily give me a crazy rush physically, it makes me kinda feel like that scene in the Hangover where Zach Galifianakis’s character is doing crazy math at the poker table and the numbers are going around his mind and he’s in some sort of savant mode 😂 It obviously doesn’t make me smarter, but it helps me unlock the knowledge I already have and utilize it better. Love this shit.

[@assas1nscreed]

Aw good for you my guy

[@pixel4o4]

That's good to hear bro. The thing about the "zombie" feeling happens usually to people who are over medicated. I experienced it once, I was over medicated and felt like a shell of myself. Getting that right medicine though is definitely what helped me. Too many people use the "zombie" talking point to discourage giving ppl with adhd meds smh.

[@alexakelley2353]

Totally feel you about the hangover scene!! To me it feels like all my thoughts are a tangled up string and meds feel like pulling the string tight from end to end. Still me but actually able to think clearly!

[@lanceelliott2504]

This podcast helps me understand myself and my newly discovered ADHD so much better

[@artreleaf]

This has grown to become one of my favorite podcasts because of all of these mental health conversations and so much candid honesty. Thank you for making these eps each week, despite all the ups and downs that come!

[@salty4771]

You guys healed a little bit of my inner child. I didn’t realize other people’s parents asked “did you take your medicine?” Bc I always felt so bad when I’d just be having a conversation and my parents would suggest I needed to chemically change what was going on inside me to interact with my family 😢

[@MisterSludge]

This exact feeling is why I stopped taking my meds as a kid. My mom once stopped the morning bus because I forgot it. She did it very discreetly and didn't embarrass me but I couldn't stop thinking after that..."what is wrong with me that taking this is so important!?". Around the same time I asked my friend at school about his morning pill and he said he didn't have one and didn't know what I was talking about.....it made me feel so different and weird So I just stopped and Mom pushed a little but eventually just let me make the decision for myself....I may never know if this was the best decision but her giving me the ability to choose for myself has always made the difference in my life!

[@welpppppppppppppp]

the microwave talk was so real... i just learned when and why to use the different power levels and it changed the leftovers game

[@plankton2507]

Please share your wisdom if you see this…. I just learned to make a baked (microwaved) potato in 5 minutes & it’s changed my entire life ngl

[@plankton2507]

microwave potato tutorial: -fork stab potato all around (not explode) -butter on salt on -plate -microwave 6 - :) edit: -more butter inside (NOT OPTIONAL ITS GOOD FOR U) use real butter and go ham !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kerrygold if u can afford and/ or run fast from the police !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@d0rm4ntp4st3]

hugely real i got a microwave that has a little tutorial inside the door on what settings to use and it's incredible

[@stephaniesapp]

I was in the gifted and honors classes from the time I was 6 or 7 until I was 17 I think, and that was one of the main reasons why they didn’t pick up that I had ADHD until I was 14 and failing all of my classes freshman year of high school. Most of the adults I’d talk to would say that there was no possibility that I could have ADHD because 1) I was a girl and “girls don’t have ADHD, they’re just not lady like” and 2) I was a gifted kid so it was automatically impossible to be neurodivergent in their eyes. My parents just thought I was really creative, had extremely specific interests in media, music and production, and was just an extremely passionate and talkative little girl. When I finally got the diagnosis and began to learn techniques, get proper medication/treatment, and get set up for a plan through the school, I was such a different person in and out of school. Math has always been a rough subject for me, especially when it comes to tests, even though I enjoyed most classes I took on it. I had an advanced geometry/algebra 1 teacher my sophomore year and he spent the whole year working WITH me to figure out how I learned best as an individual student. The day he got our test scores back from our End Of Course exams he stood in front of the room and asked each of us if we felt comfortable with him telling the class our grade out loud. I was the last person and I looked terrified as my classmates waited to know my grade (gifted classes stay together all through school so we were all close and they knew how much I’d been struggling). When I told him he could say it out loud, he brought me a tissue from his little tissue box and said in the proudest voice I’ve ever heard from a teacher “73, I told you that you could do it!” And I just started sobbing as my friends all cheered and hugged me because I had worked my butt off to do better than the failed exams from the year before. His dedication to making my academic career catered more towards my individual needs and support is such a huge reason why I’m about to graduate with my Bachelor’s degree in May and start on my Masters program sometime in the fall. Teachers who support students who just need someone to be in their corner don’t realize how much of an impact they have on a student’s life, but they truly are so important.

[@faye7441]

you saying that they all knew you and were all close is so real, like these are the same 100 kids ive known since 4th grade. they know everryyything abt me whether i like it or not

[@octobercowgirl]

omfg i relate so much to what ted said at 27:58 as a kid i would use games as just a way to make up stories in my head and roam around without any care for completing levels or missions

[@crow1247]

Yay! I've felt awful all day (COVID, sadly), so a new SB ep is great :) thanks guys!

[@user-jd6rp8fw9b]

hope u have a speedy recovery ❤

[@rein.cosplays]

I have Covid, too 😭 This is my last sick day before I have to be functional again. Hope you feel better, soon!

[@crow1247]

@@rein.cosplays oh no 😭😭 mines Thursday so hopefully I feel better then. Thank you, you too!! 💚

[@crow1247]

@@user-jd6rp8fw9b thank you 💚

[@shoechives1998]

@@crow1247omg same

[@welpppppppppppppp]

also re: being gifted it's sort of weird cause i went to a school that sounded very much like ted's but we called anyone with any sort of neurodivergence or learning disability "gifted" in addition to kids who had a higher reading or math level or w/e. as a then undiagnosed kid w combined adhd they actually rejected me from joining that class 😅 but the whole school was super crunchy and made everyone take a weekly creative activity every year.

[@harrisonlaws4866]

Ted getting agency over his anxiety of change is everything. I would’ve loved it. Choosing my schedule in college gave me that agency.

[@kiwid3628]

As a teenager with ADHD and dyscalculia who only got diagnosed a couple years ago, it's so nice hearing other people talking about their ADHD. I feel like most people with ADHD have so many shared experiences, it's crazy how similar we all are. Not to mention how neurodivergent people are almost like drawn to each other or something, most of my friends have been diagnosed with ADHD or autism. Also I just got to the part of you talking about "gifted" kids. I went to a gifted magnet from 4th grade up until my sophomore year of high school, I'm now in my junior year and I am out of the gifted system! I go to a regular high school with an art program. Switching schools was honestly the best decision I've ever made. I love my new school and I've been getting better at coping with my ADHD. Love the podcast, love listening to you guys talk. One of the only podcasts I can actually stand listening to ❤

[@spidermonkeybm]

the random uploads keeping us on our toes! excellent prank guys

[@FirstNameBunchANumbers]

I was a "gifted" kid in elementary school - My school system used the term AIG for "Academically Intellectually Gifted" 🤮 It was the same as Jarvis's experience where the AIG kids would leave our main classroom to go to a different class that was supposed to be more challenging for "the smart kids." Basically everyone went from AIG in elementary school, to honors classes in middle school, and to honors and/or AP classes in high school before (it was assumed) going to college. It definitely made my kid brain believe that I was smarter than my peers because I was praised more than others, but worse for my long term psyche - It made me believe being "gifted" and performing well in school was the most important thing about me. I wasn't just that I was smarter - I HAD to ALWAYS be smarter. It really instilled a mindset in me that if I ever started having trouble in class or god forbid if I got a B in a class, it was a personal failing. So much unnecessary pressure and mental anguish because of expectations school had made me set for myself. I am happy that I was able to do more challenging school work because the reality is that I was bored in my grade level all throughout elementary school, which is a great way to have a kid lose interest in learning. I am grateful that I was able to stay engaged with school and have a genuine want to learn because it did set me up well, but damn did being labeled as "gifted" instilled a lot of anxiety that still manifests in different ways today

[@juniperusvloggus]

JARVIS I’M HAVING THE SAME EXPERIENCE WITH STOPPING MY ANTIDEPRESSANTS!! I had a serious suspicion for a long time that the worst symptoms of my depression were actually related to ADHD and after getting my Vyvanse adjusted to a good point I’ve stopped taking my antidepressants (I did tell my doctor about this and he’s helping me keep an eye on it). It’s been going pretty damn well!! It definitely feels like I need to cope less day-to-day but I am still a bit nervous about facing a harder time again (I.e. recovering from a surgery) but I don’t know it’s been an interesting experience. I wonder if there’s research on this pattern!

[@juniperusvloggus]

@@Yuki-di2rb yea that’s usually my sign that my dose was too high and tbh missing a dose would make me feel so sick that it just didn’t really feel like they were worth the side effects any more

[@invaderliz]

Before I got my ADHD diagnoses, I got Wellbutrin as I was pretty depressed. Wellbutrin happens to help with ADHD as well (at low levels apparently). As it took the edge off my ADHD symptoms my depression disappeared. Turns out my depression was situational and the situation was feeling like a lazy dumb-dumb who couldn’t keep my life together but actually had undiagnosed ADHD. People can definitely have both depression and ADHD, but feeling like you’re a failure because you can’t seem to do “normal” things because you don’t understand how your brain works can definitely confuse a diagnoses.

[@SleepyMedia]

I have to say Lithium has changed my life. The imposter syndrome of being diagnosed with Bipolar young when it's mostly not diagnosed before a certain age really made me focus on everything but that.

[@acey.mp3]

as someone with bpd, my lamotrigine literally saved my life and it feels so nice hearing other people having the same experience

[@earthavi]

the wet paper towel over pizza while microwaving it is literally life changing i've never heard of that, thank you jarvis i am forever in your debt

[@milesdavis3380]

Hearing Jordan say he doesn't get blood tests for Lamictal was insane to me. My Primary forces me to get blood panels done like every 3-4 months to ensure the Lamictal isn't building up too much and that my kidneys are fine.

[@mikusheadphones]

I have been on Lamictal for like 6 years and literally never been blood tested for anything with it

[@zadkielseraph7752]

DAMN Jarvis what relatable content! I feel for him fr though the anger and self-loathing that comes with not having the energy to see your friends or keep up appearances or 'be who you're supposed to be' or w/e is almost worse than the lack of energy to begin with. Feels like it starts a vicious cycle that's hard to get out of

[@cam5017]

i’ve been diagnosed with adhd since i was 11 but not having many friends who also have it i love hearing you guys talk about it, makes me feel like i’m not as alone. great ep as always 🫶🏻

[@aresxna]

16:07 this tip works wonders for my daughters class, they get to take turns and it’s so awesome for both having that agency as well as learning to work with peers

[@Katiekinney23]

It’s always so interesting hearing other people’s ADHD experiences and stories. I was actually diagnosed at SIX YEARS OLD and have been medicated basically every day of my life since. And this is even with girls being under diagnosed, my kindergarten teacher went to my parents like “you should get her tested”. I must’ve been the freaking poster child. I’m not me without my meds, if that makes sense. Being off my meds if there’s a problem getting ahold of it is an actual nightmare. I feel like jelly and I eat myself sick. So I’m always on them. I’m jealous of people that can pick and choose, cuz my life literally revolves around medication and phone calls, on a thirty day cycle. You’d think after over two decades I’d have some kind of universal notifier in my records saying “loosen the controlled substances rules, she’s good”. I was actually thriving all the way into college on the max vyvanse dose, but then the combination of a concussion and severe depression setting in made everything spiral. It basically increased my ADHD symptoms by like 200% and now every single day is a struggle despite being on max dose vyvanse PLUS low Wellbutrin (actually just dropped Wellbutrin cuz it gave me daily migraines). Even though vyvanse makes me feel the most like myself, I’ve accepted I’ll have to switch to adderall next visit, cuz vyvanse just isn’t cutting it whatsoever. Honestly I’ve considered volunteering for medical studies on adhd, the meds, etc, cuz I am basically the perfect test subject having mutant adhd and been on the meds nonstop since childhood. And yes, insurance companies are the fucking BANE of my existence

[@sunnytheo]

Perfect timing for this episode to drop! Love when y’all get to keep me company while I work obscene amounts of overtime

[@mapleisntsyrup]

love hearing people talk about the confusing drug names, being epileptic means ive gone through the brand name -> generic several times and the names get confusing for a while

[@mikusheadphones]

The "generic" name is the actual name and I take multiple biologics for migraines and the names are INSANE

[@Djampuu]

I abosolutely love David, he looks like a teacher who makes fun presentations because his class subject is kind of boring, a well intetioned guy who makes mistakes but tries his best

[@townfool4682]

I really appreciate the ADHD talk in this one

[@eringrupp3399]

Jordan sits like we're the last ones awake at the sleepover and we're sharing our deepest, darkest secrets

[@iammyself7885]

The "sloyd" is what we call slöjd in swedish, it's woodworking/ textile sewing etc. We could try out both but eventually chose to do one or the other

[@LePompiste]

Ooh, this Sad Boyz resonated extra-zestily with me! From Sonic the Hedgehog 2 as a formative gaming experience-though, bizarrely, mine was on the Game Gear right after the system was discontinued-to a desperation to bond with teachers because I so very much wanted a mentor in an academic capacity, I felt this episode intensely. What really pushed it over, though, was Jordan's discussion of his experiences with lamotrigine; I took that for several years during a particularly tumultuous period of my mid-twenties (34 now) and, while the eventual physician-suggested taper off was discombobulating, I recall it providing an access to executive function and relative mental equilibrium that I miss today. Once I sort out my general whatnots (in an unemployment rut, so healthcare's a bit out of reach), I'm going to investigate it as an option again, for I know I deserve to operate as my best self; I just wanted to thank all of you for being ABSOLUTELY HECKIN' RAD HUMANS and vicariously reassuring me that I'm valid in pursuing this avenue!

[@FirstNameBunchANumbers]

Jordan, 100% same on a high ish dose of lamotrigine and one other mental health med. I'm incapacitated a lot of the time if I miss just one or two days. I feel dizzy when I turn my head and get what people call "brain zaps" that feel like an uncomfortable dizzying jolt of electricity in my head. Not painful but distracting when I drive when I'm having withdrawal symptoms. Still absolutely changed my life significantly for the better ❤️

[@evie1919]

I have ADHD, and I was very recently diagnosed/medicated as an adult in college. I did shockingly well in school- on paper- to the point where I was put into honor roll every semester and scored like 92nd SAT percentile or something, but I never took a single AP class because even a singular freshman honors english class completely overwhelmed me (honors was slightly below AP in my school, for context). I was just bottling obscene amounts of constant terror, discomfort, mood swings, impulsive/obsessive shit, physical symptoms (like from digestive shit to migraines to a skin-picking disorder) and more. It just felt like being awake was rapidly draining me and sustaining a human body, alongside thinking or doing anything at all, was either so torturously unsatisfying and exhausting that it wasn't worth it, or, if it actually caught my interest, it turned into torture because I'd latch onto that thing so hard that I'd straight up not go to the bathroom or drink water for a day. Now that I know why I felt like that, though, I could sit down and consume hours of content from/about other people who have ADHD, especially when its more of a casual, individual-based conversation more than like impersonal documentary-style type stuff. I just want to talk on and on about having ADHD with everyone, but I feel like that bothers or bores people. Listening to other people who feel the EXACT SAME WAY about so much stuff I've barely had anyone relate to before, but also hearing their really interesting variances from my experience, is just so fulfilling and genuinely fills that weird ADHD brain-bucket of satisfaction that usually seems to have a massive leak in the bottom, if that makes sense. Also I never believed I could become a teacher until I met a teacher with ADHD who experienced a lot of similar stuff, and then I was like ohhh so normal human jobs and pursuits aren't just automatically out of the question for me? Sick! Basically, in short, this topic and this specific podcast was very yas and slay so thanks for that lmao

[@starboardia]

as soon as you clicked on david I said “that man’s autistic”. and then y’all went that man likes trains and I knew we were on the same page.

[@katebradley9306]

Im very glad for this podcast! im currently switching around my adhd meds aswell; I was on concerta from age 8 and recently I've gone on my own journey to find what works best

[@Shrekslover777]

hearing ted talk about elementary school was so cool, bc it was exactly the way my elementary school worked here in Denmark. we also have sloyd, (spelled sløjt) and is just woodworking. so fun

[@peterevans6480]

in sweden slöjd is both woodworking and sewing, it used to be that boys went to woodworking and girls did sowing but now we all just do both and its really fun if not stressful sometimes 😅

[@LFSDK]

it's also sløjd in Danish. the word is loaned from Swedish even

[@Fannywikstrom95]

as a swede, everybody has slöjd (or sloyd) from when you’re about 9-15 years old in school. you can typically choose between woodworking or sowing, and you just get taught and try to make your own projects. we also call our teachers by their first name here! very interesting to hear ted talk about that.

[@sarahwinters6052]

this crossover!!!!!!! exactly what i needed today fr

[@guitarhero1346]

I really appreciate the talk about psychiatric medications and the difficulties therein. I've been on antidepressants for 9 years or so now and I love seeing it more normalized and talked about. Thank you boys

[@emmistjernfelt]

I only see one comment about this so lemme leave one too; sloyd seems to be an anglicised version of the word "slöjd" (as someone else mentioned). In Sweden our kids have this as a compulsory subject in school until you start high school the year you turn 16. At what age you start depends on the school, some start at age seven, some not until age nine! There are two kinds of slöjd - syslöjd (sewing, yarn work like knitting, embroidery, etc.) and träslöjd (woodworking and metalwork). So every Swedish, Danish, Finnish, and Norwegian who's gone through the whole school system have a basic understanding of crafting with these materials. Some middle schools let the students choose which one they want to do for each school year, so per example I did three years of only sewing class. Sloyd as an English word also means a pedagogical theory though, but clearly based on the Nordic countries approach to the subjects and their involvement in growing a kids confidence. Slöjd means handiwork or crafts and there's skolslöjd (school sloyd) and hemslöjd (home sloyd) which is basically making stuff at home, but generally with a solid footing in traditional crafts from our area of the world!

[@profileuser5845]

always love it when jordan talks about bipolar experience it is nice to hear about in a casual but serious conversation that sad boyz fosters. lamotrigine ladies, lads, and lovelies unite :)

[@maylagesse]

Lovee the discussion of trying to find mental health meds, because it was discouraging for a long time. Starting/tweaking my lamictal dose has been LIFECHANGING. I wish it was more normal to be so open about these experiences. ♥️

[@jusi1993]

THANK YOU for talking about your adhd meds, it has been one of the things I have struggled THE MOST with over the past 8-10 years since I got diagnosed in my early 20s

[@alisonjane7102]

As a future teacher, it was really nice to hear your positive experiences of teachers accommodating to your needs. I'm hoping that as someone who is also autistic and possibly has ADHD, I can make a similar difference in the lives of my students

[@WolfgangKrow]

Danish girl here :))) so crazy hearing an American person refer to sløjd, I had wiped that from my memory

[@silasbenoit773]

Missed opportunity to put Ted in D teir for the thumbnail to spell sad 😭

[@corduroy799]

Oh thank God,, I was waiting for another episode. I'm tired of living my life without Sad Boyz

[@marissawilliams656]

Pharmacy technician and current med student here! Concerta is actually a really common medication (a least my area of the country), especially since the adderall storage. Drs really like this medication due to how much they can customize the dosage and it can be used in children all the way to elder!

[@einfisch3891]

Honestly when y'all were talking about gaming and working on the same PC, I totally felt that. To the point where when I was considering upgrading my PC, I budgeted money to also buy a new decent-ish laptop specifically to work on so I didn't cross contaminate my cool new computer with work shit.

[@mmilcz833]

This episode made me go on a half-hour long deep dive into the Frutiger family of aesthetics and Microsoft design languages while in the bath. I’m not sure if I should be upset or thankful.

[@Isa.Imagination]

Wasn't expecting to be so early, but watching a Sad Boyz video posted an hour ago is an unexpected pleasure lmao

[@AAA_NNN_DDD]

the quiet "tread lightly" when talking about nick was deeply amusing

[@Drexcalibur]

As someone who was diagnosed with ADHD at 10 years old, when Ted talked about his mom saying "did you take your meds" holy shit that hit home. It would always be right after she said something obviously wrong or is losing an argument to where i'm getting annoyed, she would hit me with that phrase.

[@ElinOskarsson]

the Swedish slöjd thing is interesting. In Sweden we also call our teachers by their first names. so i guess it was just a pretty Swedish school :P

[@jace6823]

so glad these are hitting the 2 hour mark makes the work shift a little easier love you guys

[@beefy74]

there’s so many moments in my childhood that i forgot that really explain a lot. like i remember needing my teacher to give me an incentive to just do a single homework assignment (he would let me be student of the month). once i sat in one place and read an entire captain underpants book in one sitting. i used to go to a math help group bc i have always had trouble with math. after i hit middle school, i just didn’t get much support. i spent a lot of my school life moving to different places which definitely impacted my learning and my ability to make friends. i don’t even know if i was evaluated for anything, maybe i was i just forgot it happened.

[@elle_rose_xx]

Jordan I have my PC hooked up to my tv so I can couch game everything. It’s the best.

[@BeetleBoy.]

This isn't completely relevant but my entire family (mom, dad, sister, brother) has been diagnosed with ADHD since they were young. As a kid, I was sorta independent and a “genius” who never did anything wrong and didn't lie about anything. So because of these factors, my parents thought I was neurotypical but maybe a little “blunt”. Everything I said was hilarious and I never understood why. This year I was diagnosed with ADHD and autism after an awful burnout meltdown during my first two years of high school. My mom told me that she thought I was autistic but my dad didn't want me to be diagnosed because I'd be “special”. I'm finally on medication for a general anxiety disorder and that helped a lot, but my parents dont want me on ADHD medication because they think it won't work on me because I'm not hyperactive. My dad is not great about my diagnosis (he instantly told my mom to get social security for me the second I was diagnosed) but he now has a nonverbal autistic kid with my stepmom and I find it a bit funny in a way. 😅 This comment went off track but I'm gonna post it anyway because idgaf lol

[@oriole3702]

yayyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!! Also these captions are really nice idk what it is but i love them!

[@eistla]

lamotrigine is my mood stabilizer and i take it at a high dosage like jordan too and i feel SO understood lmao. i'm very serious about taking all my medication regularly, but if i happen to miss one because of pharmacy issues with refills, that single missed dose can knock me into a depression where i can't do anything for days. other than that, like jordan said, it totally changed my life. i never hear ANYONE talk about taking mood stabilizers so it meant a lot especially since it's something i still feel ashamed of sometimes. thank you jordan!! 💜

[@mayhemilyy]

lets go jordan, lamictal ftw! love this episode, it's so warming to see my own experiences reflected in the creators i enjoy :]

[@kait.theidiot]

21:00 it’s giving “You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You are a product of all that has come before you” and i love it

[@iamalittler]

Jarvis a cannibal CONFIRMED "I just to eat, I think, a lot of people."

[@gh0stcup]

Ted describing the way Jordan sits and watching him get increasingly uncomfortable right at the end of the podcast is incredible

[@starman12122]

Hay Jordan glad to see your doing good

[@sarahwinters6052]

it’s fun listening to y’all talk about video games bc you’re all a few years older than me but the same age as my siblings, so i still have memories of watching my siblings play games and get their gaming consoles

[@sarahwinters6052]

i also had a vendetta against minecraft bc that’s what all my guy friends would do when it came out and so hanging out with them just meant watching minecraft

[@baileygoff1143]

Talking about Lamictal made me feel so seen! It’s the best for me and I agree with everything Jordan said.

[@cerysxox]

got diagnosed with adhd literally last week (as 19f, living in ireland) and will be getting meds asap - similar to if not the same as concerta - so it was really lovely to hear you guys talking about it, and it makes me feel less alone in this process ❤

[@gooblesgoonles]

the SLOYD part, in Denmark, its spelled "sløjd" (pronounced like sloyd basically) but yea, its a woodworking/hand on how to make stuff thing, kinda like art or when you have cooking classes in school

[@C427-n3r]

Man idk whats up with the mic but its really picking up all of the CRUNCH in teds voice, its soothing

[@alexbell3791]

Y’all are going through all these old games consoles and dragging me back through my nostalgia. Super Mario 3 was my first game, I loved those old N64 games and I just would not beat them but instead replay certain things (Majora’s Mask was soooo easy to do this in).

[@EEF2077]

Back in middle school as an ADHD kid they let me help IT a lot. One time i convinced the science teacher to do a class where we would make a "computer" out of the old soon to be thrown away computers. Me being me I found 3 different laptops and was able to actually make one working computer out of three messed up computers. They even let me keep it. It was literally my first computer. I played Minecraft on Windows vista on that till highschool

[@sagenicely336]

So glad lamotrigine works for a lot of people (I was allergic and my whole body itched for a week after I stopped taking it. Even the inside of my mouth itched.)

[@chronicrow]

that sounds horrifying ive had bad withdrawal but never full body itches. good god

[@breadstore_1]

The discussion about adhd immediately turning into a discussion about mozzarella sticks is so real

[@honey_tteok]

another 2 hour ep!! yes please 🙏

[@validpostage]

58:00 the conversation about "why do they make prescription names so weird" there's actually fairly narrow federal rules about what a drug can be named! that's why certain antibiotics nearly always end in "-mycin" or other drugs of a specific family end in "-azepam". the names are based on the chemical structure of the drug and/or the method of action in the body.

[@oriole3702]

Wooow that’s really interesting! I should look into that more!

[@asheronthehoise4813]

brand new sad boys with the post-pubescent danny gonzalez :)

[@acid-mask]

I’ve got Autism and it’s great hearing some fellow neurodiverse kings chatting. Keep on keeping on dudes.

[@angelwebss]

SLÖJD!! Woodwork / needlework, We have 1 hour and 30 minute classes once every week in sweeden, where we at first were assigned one group half the year for woodwork, the other group needlework, then vice versa for the next half year. As someone in ninth grade (10th for Americans) we now get to choose witch one, I don't know if its the same for all of sweden, but it is in my town.

[@keyarrma]

jordan saying not taking lamictal feels like forgetting how to drive is SO real because i genuinely did forget how to drive for a little bit after stopping lamictal except all it was doing was keeping me alive and i never had motivation to work and now i'm off medication and actually have like a fear response motivator to do my schoolwork again (but drive with a lot more anxiety)!

[@danajoe3489]

this is so wholesome - literally teared up 🥹 ❤

[@Bulletproof-Rose]

I have a c-section scar too right above my eye! My mom called it a stork bite and I always thought it was super cool 😊

[@sarreptitious]

I do the evaluations Ted described for a living and it honestly blows my mind he remembers that minute detail. I love the kids i work with so much and never think they remember what we do together so that little insight makes me feel a little better lol

[@UAVizUp]

Ted calling Eddy a podcast virgin completely forgetting about the [REDACTED] And Eddy podcast

[@CommonLoganist]

Save-a-lot part hit way to close to home (still love a good banquet meal)

[@speedyzbyszales]

This episode hits so hard when my adhd ass is sitting at 3am with its next hobby and lubing keyboard switches. As to console talk, I have always been a Sony fanboy, but I've skipped the ps4/x one generation. When cyberpunk was about to drop I was so hyped that I've bought xbox series x just to play it, since it was a much cheaper option than pc upgrade, gamepass was also a nice touch. I was bored of this console after like 3 months, rarely used it and finally sold it to buy some pc parts instead. Now, 3 years later I've got a PS5 and it hits so much different on every level. The whole user experience feels special and idk, classy, exciting. I'm using it almost every day and it's just so much better in every way that I'm simply stunned.