We're Kinda Cringe... | Sad Boyz Podcast

This week the boyz self reflect on old versions of themselves, their cringey moments, youtube being broken, survivor, and pen pals makes a comeback.
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[@galtenoble]

I'm working on an illustration while listening to this, and Jarvis made a noise off screen, so I looked up at the same time Jarvis looked directly at the camera and I swear it was like one of those moments where you accidentally locked eyes with a stranger. My anxiety even spiked for a soft moment before I remembered Jarvis can't see me lol

[@jada5rock]

😆😆

[@Chuckylarms777]

just hold eye contact and it won’t be awkward

[@subway8034]

Or can he 🧐

[@melbapeach162]

@@subway8034 They've worked it out

[@melbapeach162]

I’m 97% sure you mean this moment right here 36:14

[@sorekcazimi]

21:02 when Jarvis said “i’m a pessimist microscopically and an optimist macroscopically” …perfectly-phrased, eternal mood 🥲😄

[@jobeiden]

i gotta say, ever since gus and eddy ended i have really struggled to find a regular podcast to replace the hole in my heart of two (seemingly) wonderful dudes just being guys and talking about stuff i dont really care about but love to hear in this context. im so glad sad boyz is back and its really keeping me going these past couple of shitty ass weeks. makes those weeks less shitty.

[@thedestroyasystem]

I feel the same way. Stay strong friend ❤

[@SwimmingInSunlight]

Big same, I miss the vibes of Before Times of Gus and Eddy pod 😢

[@brooke-qk7fg]

sad boyz support sad boyz

[@riddiculedridlersgirlfrien5671]

Yes!! This 100% ❤I had such a hard time after the Gus breakdown. I had loved their podcast- even used the intro to walk into my wedding reception! I think we’ve found a good “replacement” for it though. It’s nice to just have guys being chill, having a good conversation with each other + guests without it getting toxic.

[@astraynaught9343]

Man, hearing you guys talk about the jokes that you made in high school makes me feel so much better - I was raised in a very sheltered white village in England, so growing up I said and did so many things I am so extremely ashamed about - and I didn't learn I was wrong to say or do those things until I went to university (and I went to university at 21, so I'd spent most of my life in a bubble where those things were funny instead of problematic). Because of that, I'm still learning the right way to address race/gender/etc topics and what kinds of jokes(etc) I can, can't, or shouldn't say. It's just really nice to hear from two people I really respect that the past doesn't have to be totally shameful, so long as you've learned and grown and become a better person. Or rather, I can be ashamed, but also proud of the steps I'm making toward that growth, and those feelings can coexist.

[@ashenayee]

jordan's "this is f*cked" followed by that big laugh is killing me

[@cameron8338]

most infectious laugh i've ever heard fr

[@Dantalliumsolarium]

“ITS SEXTING TIME” magical girl transforms into just being in a hoodie on my bed, but with like glitter

[@mightymeatymech]

being *a hoodie on your bed. One day aim publishing awoke to find themselves transformed into Kwite, but with like glitter

[@badger6882]

She’s just like me fr

[@_Chelli_]

I love the Lord of the Rings books, and I 100% agree with Jordan’s criticism of them. Tolkien is a product of his time, and if you go deep the Euro-Centrism is pretty obvious, which is why I prefer the adaptations moving away from the real world comparisons. Middle-Earth is supposed to be Europe, and the people who follow Sauron just happen to come from the East and South of there. 😬

[@benchotka5768]

There may be some implied exclusion or racism but it’s not explicit in fact I like the inclusion in the rings of power I would be annoyed if inclusion changed the canon though since Peter Jackson cast all white people. If they made an established character a different race in the same continuity I’d be confused. Honestly the diversity in the rings of power makes it more believable. The main issue with the books I think is that Tolkien was English and it’s largely based on world war 1 and 2 experiences there is a definite othering of the bad characters but it’s mostly about the terror of war the characters don’t want to be fighting and there is a moment in the Peter Jackson films where a southerner is killed and Faramir says this man had a family and he feels sad that they won’t know what happened to him. In terms of colour symbolism “white” isn’t always symbolic of good , Saruman started off as “ white “ but then turned evil. Sorry for the rant I’m just mad about the state of the current fandom. I’m all for inclusion and I’m not saying Tolkien was perfect and didn’t write his bias into the books. I just want to enjoy the new series and I think there is definitely room for the inclusion it may or may not be in the books but that’s irrelevant the books are a product of the time they were made and the author but they aren’t explicitly racist inherently. I hope we can all enjoy an updated version of lord of the rings and feel represented.

[@_Chelli_]

@@benchotka5768 Well said. The vitriol directed towards Rings of Power has been upsetting, especially since it is a result of the alt-right latching on to it as a talking point. Nonetheless, I’ve enjoyed the series a lot so far.

[@chuckmcluckin6082]

You gotta love how when the orcs are first described, they're compared to the "least savoury Mongoloid types." The 30's were something else 😬

[@thepokekid01]

I know some people get offended by this stuff, but we need Jordan doing more American accents, lol! I don't know why but it's funny to me to see people with other english accents do American accents, especially if they do them really well, really cringe, or somehow a mix of both like Jordan did.

[@mightymeatymech]

Who is getting offended by British people doing American accents?? It's always so funny to me (100% American lol)

[@itsflappletime]

I'm fine with Americans putting on Surrey accents because its hilarious so I don't know why americans don't like it when we put on a funny texan accent and talk about guns and bald eagles 🦅🦅

[@Sandstimes]

As an American watching British people try to do an American accent is incredibly fascinating to me lol. I can only imagine how they feel about all of the badly done British accents american actors tend to do

[@psychoticbreaks167justletm4]

As an American... we are one of the biggest, most powerful nations in the world. I dont think that a few jokes are gonna hurt us. I mean dude... with the damage my country causes around the globe, I just kinda think the meanest possible jokes are nothing. Its like a white person taking serious offense to the c word.

[@brianatford6603]

This is by FAR my favorite sadboyz episode. This conversation was so quality. I love hearing men’s deep thoughts. Ugh, I love J & A, they give me hope lol

[@kymbredwyeryoga]

"The brain doesn't really work at all until like 27" why is this so freaking true?!?!? I felt the same.

[@dormagio]

“The Iceberg Lettuce of people” is such a funny burn.

[@jbone877]

I find it kinda bussin', I find it kinda cap, The dreams in which I'm dying, Are the ones that kinda slap

[@viviantompkins7925]

Beautifully stated 😌

[@jon-cx7jq]

bars

[@eminempreg]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@mightymeatymech]

I find hard to yoink you, I find it hard to yank, When people run in circles, It's a very very Sad World™

[@Sevenpuddingsx]

Cringe is dead, we're living our lives as we please now

[@thefrostyslime]

31:49 Fun fact: I realized I was on the ace spectrum through a s*xting interaction. The whole time, I was thinking, "This is hilarious, but I'll keep it up because I care about you."

[@VermilionNovak]

That conversation at the end was very powerful to me. I’m currently trying to break up with my long term partner because I’ve realized how I’ve been sacrificing my mental health to try and be his only support person. Its very hard to explain to them because it’s not a specific bad thing that causes the downfall of the relationship but it’s also not something that can be easily fixed, especially when it’s someone who doesn’t believe in therapy, like my partner.

[@AmyAberrant]

I hope this worked out okay 💛💛

[@mielikin]

I didn't know the term mindreading, and I'm really glad I do now! My anxiety manifests in me fixating on possible negative future scenarios, and right now my brain has decided it should make us obsess over what my close friend thinks about XYZ and what if it's bad. So thank you boys, I really needed to hear that!

[@taylifts]

I needed this. Going to inject this episode directly into my ear holes

[@Charlie-cl5ny]

the pen pals segment this episode hit really close to home for problems I've been dealing with recently, thank you guys :3

[@welpppppppppppppp]

so true about accessorizing… the middle awkward phase of committing to something definitely makes me feel like a dingus but we gotta grow our comfort zones 😅

[@bitnewt]

Absolutely! It's really helped me to wear my fashion experiments around the house on days I know I'm not going out until I'm comfortable enough that I go out in it feeling too self-conscious.

[@rainyrambles]

This isnt the exact situation that was mentioned in Anya’s story, but I had a recent break up that was sort of similar to it in the sense that it all seemed sudden and they (my ex) didn’t really explain much or say what was wrong. So yeah, the part about friendships/relationships really was very comforting to hear and had great insights :)

[@benchotka5768]

I’m done with the recent lotr fandom and you’re right the actual books aren’t specific enough to be considered racist they do however seem to lack inclusion. Nowhere in the book does it say dwarves can’t be black and elves can’t be Hispanic. All the races are made up and they do have quite a bit of diversity. I think most of the issues are actually a result of Peter Jackson’s lack of inclusion in his casting. Not saying Tolkien wasn’t bigoted or racist but the actual books don’t show much of it if he was. There aren’t enough female characters and no one is specifically a poc but I’m really enjoying the inclusion in the new series. In fact it really works the current racist fandom needs to wake up.

[@maydoubled]

Regarding the person being shut out by their best friend, I did the same thing when I was a teenager. I had some major issues with them but it was difficult for me to express myself at that age. I did try once though. Nothing changed. I was also going through mental health issues at the time and was isolating myself as an effect of that. I assumed that once I decided to stop being friends with them (while not telling them the reason why) that our entire friend group would hate me so I stopped talking to them too. Not sure if this is the case with their friend but it might offer a little insight to what /may/ be going on.

[@AlexA-jm3qj]

Currently having a crisis because Jarvis said he was on the earlier side of being a millennial when I truly thought he was only a few years older than me (i'm 23), so he could have been an honorary Gen Z (he still can be ofc)

[@leaveplutoalone6318]

Loving the consistent pods boyz! Great work!

[@littlewillowlinda]

I appreciate your words about friend stuff at the end. I've been on the both sides but at times i say something that puts too much pressure. I've moved away from groups where i feel weird. And I've had friends with common friends leave too. Something I've learned is that most ppl don't value friendships as much as i do, or what they're looking for is different than you. Bc i love a good group hang but prioritize individual relationships within it, while I've seen that some prioritize keeping the harmony within the whole group without getting too deep into what ppl are going thru etc. There's nothing wrong with either view and both can be interpreted as valuing friendships but different aspects of it.

[@VenusianLissette]

i really enjoy this podcast. fantastic transparency gentlemen, thank you

[@Epinardscaramel]

The thing that bothers me about KZbin age restricted videos is that if I want to watch one I need to provide documents to Google to prove that I am an adult, but on the other hand I sometimes get ads for booze. So I guess Google has a pretty good idea if I’m over 18 or not.

[@personalcringe]

day gets a million times better with this podcast

[@cloudbrooks]

putting this on while making my singular stuffed animal a cardboard box throne :)

[@flextradiol]

the podcast has been something i’ve leaned on a lot the past few days and I really appreciate the frequent uploads

[@DeadMeatWalkingKaz]

I love that now the “attack helicopter” has been adopted by the trans community and now we make jokes like that all the time but if a cis person says it in earnest you can FEEL people cringing not just because it’s in poor taste but also because it’s so old and unoriginal we’re like “if you’re gonna hate speech at me can you at least give me something new?? Cringe, man.”

[@maybemablemaples2144]

Word and then they become even more cringe when you don't take the bait. Like sir I was there when the meme was born, do not speak to me about the old ways. Now take your L and get a new joke please, the sauce is old.

[@PossiblyAlena]

I have nothing particularly substantial to say but I really enjoy this podcast you guys are doing a great job

[@averytrexel]

jordan’s eyebrows are incredible omg

[@Nuancednudibranch]

As far as it relates to experimenting with new things, if you don’t want to put it out there immediately, just form a little focus group of people who will be honest with you but who you can also trust not to protect your creative property from leaking. Or even create a private tiktok with those people and have them give you feedback there.

[@toaster_gremlin]

the friend dropping ALL of their friends is a little concerning and honestly i would probably tell their family/an administrator that they were pushing EVERYONE away, because that's a common act in depression, especially if they have a history

[@JhericFury]

I do not understand flirting and sexy talk. I'm ace, so I just avoid it anyway, but I'm glad even people who like sexy times find it a bit awkward to sext.

[@JhericFury]

Glad as in, it's nice everyone shares this, not glad that people are uncomfortable.

[@reythelastdragonpearl9470]

Eyyy! As a Ace, I have flirty humor but I hate it. I make smooth comments but at my own expense

[@hunterculverhouse9210]

i literally look feral bonkers walking around outside listening to sadboyz because i just be giggling to myself

[@ccb36]

Big fan of the Tolkien discourse, as a fan of Tolkien's books (and someone who read and enjoyed the Silmarillion). Good times.

[@gracedell]

43:18 same. i thought identifying as an attack helicopter was a “random=funny” joke

[@pennjida8993]

makes me so happy every dang time

[@klras8231]

Idk why but the thought of jar jar doing it, is giving me the same feeling of when I walked in on my father "petting his snake", but less so, obviously.

[@peach_total]

1:26:00 and the thing is whether it is personal or not doesn’t REALLY matter because it’s out of ur control at that point (which is a tough pill to swallow but an important thing to learn)

[@cameronc6145]

u came at the perfect time boyz

[@Daedalussi]

you guys should play dnd

[@leaveplutoalone6318]

I definitely agree! I’m sure you know but if you are looking for a fix Jordan did a VERY good DnD podcast called “Arcs”

[@LordOfElysium]

Fuck yeah, I don’t even know what DND is but I kinda know the premise and anything these guys do is amazing-

[@Daedalussi]

@@leaveplutoalone6318 ooh!! i did not know, will check it out! once they started doing wizard voices i was like, surely they play, and if they dont, they must! lol.

[@Daedalussi]

@@LordOfElysium right? they have that blend of empathy and nerdiness that lends itself well to collaborative storytelling

[@reythelastdragonpearl9470]

16:20 didn’t expect that laugh from Jordan omg I’m dying

[@dead1097]

Ahhh, Well, accidently calling out Broken me who didn't get the relationships I needed to even find myself worthy enough to have friends after I got broken by the online space, really sad boyz hours for me. haha

[@kamb8s]

Hearing Jordan talk about his MW2 cracked me up. I tried doing the same thing once, awful.

[@AngieeShipps]

Jarvis’ Sweatshirt is 🔥!

[@ku8408]

I hope we can hear your thoughts on the aftermath of the face reveal too, twitter was/is just a disgusting and demoralizing place 😮‍💨 I'm not surprised tho, just tired

[@dylanbuford9891]

Ima start using the phrase “Andrew traits”

[@LockandKeyHyena]

jokes on you guys making one of those diagrams actually sounds fun lol

[@Yessica13]

As a viewer, I think you've done really well with the accessorizing. It looks good on you and cohesive.

[@user-vm6mw5xw7o]

just what i needed to get me through the rest of this already long week lol. thank you guys

[@asheronthehoise4813]

oh my god i'm not the only one with awkward sexual encounters ??? that's a normal thing ??? actually so comforting. thank you.

[@aquaticraccoon1467]

you can stream survivor on paramount plus! and the season with ken is survivor: gabon, season 17

[@welpppppppppppppp]

oh no jordan and jarvis…. so you’re saying sex is like improv 😂😂😂😂😂

[@greengrain64]

I went to go see if you guys were on patreon and didn't see anything? Maybe receiving money through patreon makes you guys feel too obligated haha so no pressure, but I would really like to give you a reason to keep the show going 💕✨ thanks for another great episode made my week

[@greengrain64]

Not that the only reason that you have to keep the show going is my $10 a month hahaha "man I'm really tired of doing the show but where else am I going to get the $10 for my monthly Grand Slam"

[@miledith555]

Jordan, go sailing some day, then nobody will make fun of you for using the clock method to communicate where something is. You use it all the time then to tell the crew where certain markers are (like markers that warn you about shallow spots on the lake etc.) or to communicate the position of other boats during a manouver and stuff.

[@ironykillz]

That last person went on to write Banshees of Inisherin

[@queencleopatra007]

Sweet! Didn't know I could use the shoe rack for this. I've just been hiding the snowy escape shoe sign in all my builds 😅

[@elliejelly8815]

The sorta inward pecimist outward optimist thing could be a sort of perfectionism thing. I tend to be positive but when I do stuff my self it’s hard to start bc I’m a perfectionist and that’s tough.

[@ameliavelasco8602]

You may have put all your eggs in one basket, but the hens will keep laying more eggs 😊

[@timusforlife]

Speaking of Black White thats how I discovered you guys, so thank you! Love the videos, hope you continue Black White because THAT is cringe incarnate

[@miamismallman]

u guys are great. I wish Jordan would post more on his channel

[@jerrythemagicalllama]

49:00 saving my spot

[@saturnbyrning621]

Am I restarting the episode halfway through because I can't stop thinking about mapping out the conversation? Perhaps

[@diamdante]

you know Matt Walsh is bad when my boomer conservative dad tells me to turn his videos off because he's annoying lmao

[@deckofcards]

The best part about sexting is how you have to wait for them to answer

[@lii8406]

i'd kill for another crazy night at tagliatellos

[@MirBlackwell]

Eyepatch Dota Rhyme Fd Summoning salt Karl Jobst Jarvis we can't keep watching the same youtubers

[@Ghostboi800]

1 hour 20 Jeff Probst sounds like a pastor/priest's name

[@shinnyart]

These podcasts make my day

[@reckless_herb]

for some reason i thought of the amazing race when they were talking about survivor for a bit. i was quite confused. survivor is a freaky concept though 😬

[@rainydayjules]

glad to see the SuperEyepatchWolf face reveal also took you guys out!

[@jenniferbelveal4331]

It wasn't until "The Panini, girls!" (as Luxaria would say) that I found a lot of the people I watch now, and actually learned HOW to KZbin; I never really cared before. To some extent, knowing THE KZbin SPHERE was for the chronically online, was kind of a negative thing, so I just shrugged and didn't pay attention. Either the KZbin gravitational pull finally got me during lock down, or content like this channel and Anne Reardon and others that explain content farms and how the algorithm works AND have a good voice to offer taught me how to properly Tube. Kind of both, probably; but the latter is what has gotten a lot more engagement from me, and the creators that I want to see still succeed are the only reason I've stuck around through KZbin's various malfeasances, because it's just not realistic to expect many creators on here to maintain and sustain by just jumping platforms- that would be a big hit, and to where will they go? Maybe KZbin thinks they are too big to fail (and has made deliberate moves to reenforce that), so they don't feel enough incentive to actually fix all these platform issues that just dump on creators. That's unsurprisingly a short-sighted and ill-advised move on their part; they would do well to support the creators that make their platform, before they either find diminishing returns on their loyalty to KZbin and flee, losses be damned; or a Ryan Reynolds-type tries to Mint-Moble this arena and lure content creators away. KZbin should consider that the 'where else are you gonna go, lol' model is also not sustainable forever.

[@petrolpatrol1986]

1:23:52 I don't know if anybody will get the reference, but... Dank Pods anyone?

[@BethanyGriffith-kw2eh]

I was trying to make ukulele rap in 2k16 and I gave up because the race relationship in America is just too scary for me to jump into sometimes, but I love hearing it from the pov of others🎉❤😅

[@BethanyGriffith-kw2eh]

10:02 these jokes are funny too me One time 'dmoh' or wev we called each other told me I had legs 'the color of paper' but also my nickname was 'crazy white girl' in Spanish 😂😂😂🤦🏻🤙 like my place in this conversation makes sense to me and sometimes I just want to be proud of how far I've come w the LGBT+ shit because now I can say "hi, I'm also a Sad Boi' and then I can take that and unpack it on my own channel I love being a nerd, I think❤

[@BethanyGriffith-kw2eh]

11:39 or smth lol I like this vid a lot, and this bit about accents makes me think of my country accent Sometimes I just use it to sound silly so I don't feel dumb But also, as an ex anglophile, I imagine y'all use your accents sometimes just to sound smart Sometimes I wonder if Hamilton was just tired of being confused, and that's why he wrote like he was running out of time❤

[@SaraT-xw3jp]

It me!

[@caroline2978]

I literally just watched the David and Goliath season of survivor bc I too am very late

[@vainpiers]

the funny thing about Americans making fun of English people dropping their T's is that a lot of Americans pronounce the T in water as more of a D

[@n-the-ninth]

one of my favourite things that some americans will do when trying to do a british accent is dropping some of their ds in the same way they would ts, because frequently those are pronounced the same in american english for example, ladder vs latter these are indistinguishable in many american accents, and while some brits may drop the ts in latter, i cant think of any that would drop the ds in ladder but some americans will pronounce both as la'er while doing a british accent, because well, they're pronounced the same, right?

[@thepokekid01]

Matt Walsh is kind of boring, I still think Tim Pool kind of surprises me every time I see him speak because I expect like a Hockey Bro voice to come out of his mouth(or maybe sound close to Crowder's voice), but instead it's Shapiro lite. Ben Shapiro though, I don't know... I just can't stand his voice, maybe it's because I feel like it's just another fake part of his persona, but the guy is literally the caricature of a "smart guy" stereotype. He just needs to wear glasses. Ben Shapiro is just literally Mandark. At the end of the day though, it feels like a waste of my life in that I know who all these people are, lol

[@abstractartist2317]

Jarvis u have Langston from Bust Down energy

[@nicks6657]

29:00 jarvis vs antonio brown

[@Epinardscaramel]

I haven’t watched Survivor since season 2 😅

[@cakeharshly]

yes i agree

[@kl-jn4kh]

Such a good episode

[@nrose1271]

new hot JJ boyz hell yeah

[@micahfoley9572]

the orcadork sounds like a sex position renamed by frat boys.

[@thepokekid01]

I feel like I am having the process of how long it takes me to listen to a long podcast exposed but I feel like exposing a big black secret in that I feel like at some point every Black person double thinks if they should use the N-word or not... I think in general, but sometimes with black people too. I mean, it's not a word that I grew up around, so in general I will not use it. I mean, granted the I did hear the word among my peers (mostly the "a" form), but it wasn't a word I heard from adults so I generally didn't use it. Of course today I might intentionally think of a terrible joke, or a racist black joke, or an n-word joke and I will say it among some of my close black friends or black friends I am really comfortable with, I guess in a sarcastic, more of an "egg on my face, egg on our face" sort of way and I'll say that then, but even then, I'm often thinking of censoring myself, saying something like "n-word" instead, and I feel like that is kind of funny. Black people shouldn't be worried about saying the N-word to other Black People (I mean, that is what society says, it's our privilege), especially when not used as an insult, but I think it's pretty typical to everybody at least some point in their life.

[@jasmynhabibi5086]

waiting for the spot the difference tweet

[@Max_The_Flower]

TRUE

[@KennethPatton-yi3fb]

Good video, thank you.

[@DoxicDoad]

I found out the queen died from a shitpost blog on tumblr

[@siobhanmercer9424]

Love Tolkien! Love him. Love LotR, fave piece of media ever. The Haradrim thing is racist as hell and anyone trying to like back door defend it is weird

[@tessdevenney3178]

can we send pen pals? where

[@mimsygoodcat3449]

Oh jarvis no not the token vs tolken argument! Edit: I mean cause he's lost how they started this conversation

[@A7X_Stan]

Comment for algorithm

[@delycan4912]

Jarvis saying the N word don't sound right for some reason 😯

[@ollybygolly9326]

To Jarvis' macroscopically optimistic, microscopically pessimistic comment; I identified with this, up until I started law school. It's bad out here, folks.

[@FoxyFemBoi]

I will suggest watching the video on the Tolkien stuff by James Somerton. Called "The Wokening of Middle Earth" or something like that. It acknowledges both a lot of the "based" stuff in Tolkien's lore (including some stuff just straight up in the main texts people regularly read) as well as some of the stuff that's fucked up (no holds barred). I honestly learned a lot, and was surprised by how progressive Tolkien was, especially for the time. Again, not that he didn't hold some iffy views or express some pretty obviously euro-centric views. But would highly rec that vid. Edit: It's called "Diversity in The Rings of Power". Someone else linked it below!

[@benchotka5768]

I’ll definitely watch that of course there is some objectionable content in the books but there often is in older works I’m interested to learn about it. I was listening to a Jules Vern novel recently and there was a description of a pipe shaped like a woman becoming darker with use and I nearly spit out my drink when I heard it ! There’s nothing that explicit that I’ve seen in lord of the rings.

[@benchotka5768]

I couldn’t find that specific video but he does a great job of discussing diversity in lotr link is here kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIeWZ2hveLaJaZo

[@FoxyFemBoi]

@@benchotka5768 Yup that's the one! I think he might have renamed it, or I just remembered the original screencap text.