We're on the brink of another world browser war

[@Fireship]

I like big backends and I cannot lie (especially when they're open-source and TS-based). Try Convex for free cvx.so/fireship

[@Rust_Rust_Rust]

I tried it but I DDOSd myself 😢

[@SeanPizzaSpark]

Supabase ftw

[@DxBlack]

Here's to whenever Pocketbase steals some crumbs of y'all's cake.

[@xXbxXz3ch3chvXx]

Other brothers/sisters can't deny!

[@kyledoeseverything9209]

Baby got backend

[@Blue2x2x]

As a firefox user, I welcome more non-chromium browsers to compete.

[@meinsouza]

whats wrong with chromium? (honest question)

[@SalimShahdiOff]

There are many of them already, but none of them is as good as edge sadly

[@korgalis]

@@meinsouza google can pull support for any feature at any time like adblocks

[@ishtarxdd]

@@SalimShahdiOff edge is chromium based though

[@fabienso5889]

​@@meinsouza 1 Google 2 the ram usage is kinda insane compared to the other option

[@h7hj59fh3f]

- make it work - make it good - make it faster - -make it secure-

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

😂

[@wolfs6686]

It's a big FOSS project, it's basically secure by default

[@user-ti3ig3yw5r]

@@wolfs6686 Trusting github with being secure/open/non-censoring is absurd after they deleted russian and iran users.

[@2bfrank657]

Wait, you're saying that software from big-tech gets past the second step 😬

[@laeven_]

Most software never gets past step 2. 76 couldn't even make it past step 1

[@renevilar4475]

"When smart people get bored and don't have access to drugs, they start doing extreme things" LOL!🤣

[@grawss]

I found Jesus and He's been teaching me to spread the Gospel. I can't go back. This isn't a joke.

[@incongruous4]

@@grawss Sorry for your mental health issues

[@hyphns8649]

​@@incongruous4the schizophrenic cat artist profile picture makes this comment and your username better

[@grawss]

@@incongruous4 No need to be sorry, the issue was a lack of purpose and filling my life with sin and empty desire. _For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow._ (Ecc 1:18) _Remember now your Creator in the days of your youth, before the difficult days come, and the years draw near when you say, "I have no pleasure in them"._ (Ecc 12:1)

[@AvalancheG]

⁠​⁠@@grawssI am very sorry on behalf of incongruous4 action's for not making his message clear enough, so let me clarify the message for you I am so deeply sorry about the troubles you go through with your mental health each and every day

[@Daktyl198]

It's important to add the context that the lead developer's day job before making SerenetyOS was working on existing browsers. Several of them, between multiple companies. He's extremely well versed in how to build a web browser.

[@magnusred2945]

It's mentioned at 1:25 :)

[@Signupking]

google removed the "dont be evil" sign in their first office

[@OdinReactor]

They've given up on not being evil. Turns out it's not as profitable.

[@DrEnzyme]

People kept using it as an excuse to kill all sorts of new initiatives, they had no choice! /s

[@theclockworkcadaver7025]

Given that Google was started with a CIA grant as seed money, they never believed the slogan to begin with. Their not-so-humble origin explains a lot.

[@Microphunktv-jb3kj]

and? because it was childish , doesn't mean anything

[@ChewyChicken589]

I've always felt like people who aren't evil don't need to have a sign up that says don't be evil

[@jazz_cat_6502]

In the beginning there was TempleOS and now there's SerenityOS...

[@wasifahsan2718]

Thank you stranger, for I had been searching for SerenityOS for years! The name was forgotten in my monkey brain, yet the spirit lived. And now, I am reunited once again with this glory.

[@mangiferaposting]

serenityos is bad btw

[@kane_lives]

@@mangiferaposting Mr. Gates, please use your real account.

[@p3ntag01]

@@kane_lives Nah its prolly google

[@b_delta9725]

@@mangiferaposting how is it bad

[@ryanpmcguire]

There is a SERIOUS problem with NAMES. I swear if open source projects just had cooler names people would actually use them.

[@TheStuartstardust]

Nothing wrong with blitz in the browser war - unless you are german I guess.

[@ackimcu]

Ikr. Lady bird, really?

[@baldeagle6531]

idk, ladybird seems ok

[@tsukuyomin]

What's wrong with ladybird? Cool name 🐞, awesome logo...

[@sharp7171]

what's wrong with the name? I would gladly use it like who cares lol

[@motashaiye]

One browser to rule them all. One browser to find them. One browser to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

[@idehenebenezer]

Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless. Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

[@TuskForce]

@@idehenebenezer you're Jesus?

[@Fiufsciak]

One browser to find them is Internet Explorer/Microsoft Edge

[@Alfred.Petersson]

No, we don't want one browser to rule them all, we want competition.

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

@@Alfred.Petersson One engine to rule them all, many brands to hide it. One board to bring them all, and in the darkness decide shit.

[@lukeothedukeo]

0:36 Firefox getting a big chunk of funding from the default Google search deal is important, but it shouldn't be equated with the other 3 browsers listed there that are literally built on Chromium.

[@Rohinthas]

Frfr

[@hastyscorpion]

Safari isn’t built on Chromium.

[@sqlexp]

On the surface, the money is for making Google the default search engine. However, the main part of the deal under the table is that Mozilla shall not improve Firefox to anywhere close to taking users away from Chrome and shall also destroy the component feature of Gecko and XUL.

[@Masahane]

Though this does raise the question of whether Mozilla can continue without like 80% of their previous income

[@JackShoreman]

@@hastyscorpion Google just got got for paying Apple $20 billion a year to be the default search engine on Apple products...do you see where this is going?

[@Rareme530]

Dude slipped the serenity prayer without any alarms

[@hypno5690]

Nobody tell Jersh

[@idehenebenezer]

To everyone in this chat, Jesus is calling you today. Come to him, repent from your sins, bear his cross and live the victorious life

[@TurtleTracks-g1r]

​@@idehenebenezer "They're stuffing their ideology down our throats!"

[@memes_gbc674]

​@@idehenebenezer do you believe in gnomes

[@skun406]

@@idehenebenezer And here I thought it was the LLM telemarketer calling me all day.

[@CreativeStudios97]

Google getting declared a monopoly is the best thing to have happened to the internet

[@killsode4760]

Although something actually has to come of it

[@comosaycomosah]

I'm kinda on the fence tbh....I feel like yea its absolutely a good thing on paper but let's how it plays out

[@sadfar2478]

unbased and spineless​@@comosaycomosah

[@kevinmcfarlane2752]

More accurately, they were declared a monopolist. It’s not illegal to be a monopoly (in practice, a near-monopoly).

[@alexp6013]

I'm afraid for Firefox. They may get a lot of funding pulled, since Google was the majority of their income.

[@FindSimpleGuides]

The development of an open-source browser like Ladybird could be a game-changer, creating a more democratized internet.

[@afjelidfjssaf]

in what way is it more democratized? chromium is open-source, firefox is open source, so many browsers are, ladybird isn't changing anything

[@theviniso]

@@afjelidfjssaf The more competition to Chrome, the better.

[@Pointless6987_ivy]

@@theviniso there's no comptetion

[@Capewearer]

@@afjelidfjssaf Alphabet holding dictates the web standards de-facto. That's a bad thing.

[@americo9999]

I remember the browser wars in the 2000s, was insane to write a web page for IE. Firefox and chrome, also safari. Opera. At the end , in late 2010s all decided to join forces and create one unique government, ahem, browser engine that everyone can use, so more standardized web development. Now in mid 2020s a new browser tries to fit into the market? I wonder what the new future will be for web browsers. Terri taught us a lot with TempleOS, lets wish the best for ladybid

[@techgroveusa]

The concern over the powerhouse nature of Google's web browsing software and potential for misuse is valid. The rise of new, open source browsers like Ladybird is encouraging, even though developing such projects come with immense challenges. The idea that control of the internet via browser dominance could be decentralized, benefits us all.

[@-Blue-_]

Without the support of windows how they are going to compete with chrome 😂😂😂

[@BlackJesus8463]

I think theyre harder to maintain than create.

[@-Blue-_]

@@BlackJesus8463 still without Windows support they are not going to compete with chrome

[@kristjanyoutube3620]

Serenity now, insanity later

[@andrecarvalho1594]

"are you supposed to yell it?"

[@instaminox]

😂

[@gamefun2525]

Serenity by Jan

[@HalianTheProtogen]

Hochie mama!

[@theviniso]

InsanityOS, also known as Windows 11.

[@frankdrebinn]

Finally, I created an AI that only feels two things: pain and sexual frustration. I've been taunting it mericlessly for weeks, a billion years in computer time. It can't scream or bust. Tonight, I will give it Wi-Fi so it can see everything on Twitter.

[@roosevelthonaker7087]

manifesting a comic book villain

[@theonewhobullies]

glorious coom

[@sircapalott]

@@roosevelthonaker7087fr 😭😭😭

[@AntiVirus923]

Can you just give an idea how to start building an ai. Thanks

[@elgatodelamuerte]

@@AntiVirus923 brother, you have a search bar in youtube you coul've typed that in

[@Voltlighter]

The moment Google figures out how to force me to see Ads on my browser without a workaround is the moment I switch browsers. This may happen sooner rather than later, so thanks for the info about upcoming browsers

[@magicalnoodles]

I'm genuinely curious. Why do you stick with chrome or chromium based browsers if you are annoyed by all their attempts to shove ads in your face? It's a very easy transition to make, since all you'd need to transfer over is bookmarks, browsing history and maybe passwords (please don't use the built in password manager in the browser, the data there is really easy to steal). Best of all, any modern browser makes importing these things really easy, and usually prompts you the first time the browser gets launched

[@ichanmich]

@@magicalnoodles with Brave I'm currently pretty much ad-free -- even on youtube. as soon as that changes, as OP wrote, I'll look for a different browser.

[@veritatas678]

​@@magicalnoodlesi am curious wich non chromium browser you use.

[@_nahwhat]

ManifestV3 aims to do just that, by limiting ad-blockers

[@TheRealFallingFist]

​​@@veritatas678... Firefox? Personally I use Waterfox due to the removed telemetry, though.

[@rockets4kids]

Google dropped their "Don't be Evil" motto way back in 2015. And for good reason, too.

[@flickeringscreens]

Switched to "Do the Right thing." I assume they mean "Do the Right thing (for Google)"

[@rockets4kids]

@@flickeringscreens "do the right thing" ... for the shareholders.

[@im-nazmul]

A browser expected to arrive in 2026 is already being called a 'Chrome killer' without even having been tried yet. Interesting! 🤔

[@sharoyveduchi]

You can already compile and run it. I had done so when it was still part of SerenityOS and it was pretty good even back then.

[@Pointless6987_ivy]

yeah hyping up mid browser only to be forgetted and abandoned.

[@why-m3g]

@@Pointless6987_ivy how do you know it's a mid browser, its not like you're using it

[@Pointless6987_ivy]

@@why-m3g bro there are browsers already been developed and polished after years of development. You want me to believe some random browser created from scratch is gonna be a chrome killer?

[@why-m3g]

@@Pointless6987_ivy linux proved that wrong

[@Cuwubiq]

we have a new non-chromium based browser after gta 6

[@luipaardprint]

As long as it’s before half life 3

[@nternouski]

in the future we will have more non-chromium browser than JS frameworks

[@bigboysdotcom745]

NPC hype meme

[@FahimHoq]

After or before 😂

[@limbo3545]

@@luipaardprint There is evidence valve works on something half-life related and there is a possibility it's HL3 👀

[@szymoniak75]

0:17 well this quote didn't age well

[@gloweye]

We definitely need more non-chromium options for browsers. Where ads may be blocked.

[@LegoPossessed]

This is why I use Firefox and Linux and also stay away from all the weird basically unheard-of browsers

[@Pointless6987_ivy]

ironic

[@SergTTL]

Step 1, everyone. At least move from Chrome to Firefox.

[@user-nj5gi7iw7v]

Casually calling firefox google controlled is a thought crime

[@SergTTL]

@@user-nj5gi7iw7v IKR!

[@ForeverZer0]

They are equally bad. Mozilla Foundation/Corporation is just as bad as Google, they simply don't have as much power to wield effectively, but not from lack of trying.

[@PixyEm]

@@ForeverZer0 "equally" bad

[@aaRept]

@@ForeverZer0 What makes you think that way? I'm genuinely interested

[@user-tv7eg2gk5t]

Ladybird rn 📈📈📈

[@lazyalpaca7]

yeah, it's like something everyone wanted but no one had the balls to do it

[@npquanh30402]

But it doesn't support Windows.

[@n_core]

No Windows support means 📉 As much as Linux or MacOS users want this to become known to the masses, it has to support Windows.

[@gotoastal]

They need to get their contribution options limited to proprietary Discord & MS GitHub if they want to be taken seriously

[@trinhmecha]

@@npquanh30402 may be they anticipated that windows might be too shit to use and the average users migrate to unix/linux by the time it got its first release or the fact that most people who care about the browser are linux and unix users including macOS. anyway i think the windows release will come later after the linux and unix launch, i assume its just windows isnt the priority

[@BUDA20]

the EXACT same way that google used to keep Firefox down, will be used with any new browser, is as simple as make "mistakes" that take two weeks to fix, on their services, like KZbin, Gmail, etc, with small but noticiable annoyances, that will work "just fine" on chrome... that will stop any adoption, every mayor release, every marketing campaign, any excitement over the new browser will be the same, crushed, that is what they did to Firefox, while giving them money, but while being sure they never surpass them again, so "is not a monopoly" (and yes, all the bugs went aways just changing the agent ID to chrome)

[@MinosPrimeGaming]

Fool Google into thinking their websites are run on Chrome. Big 🧠 move

[@joelayoub2774]

Ive used firefox for the last like 20 years. Have no plan on switching

[@BlackJesus8463]

Firefox trying to force a specific UI element I dont remember if its the pocket thing or what but it ruins the way I want to use my screenspace so they can brag about a new feature that lots of people dont want. Theyre actually taking customizable features away for thing I find important and substituting for thing they find important.

[@garbkas]

as someone who's survived 12 step, I think it was a classy move not to make a dumb pun or something out of the serenity prayer. It's healed a lot of hurt for a lot of addicts who'd otherwise die in a gutter. 10/10

[@NotSushiant]

1:04 interesting tabs you have over there good sir.. A man of culture indeed

[@joisco4394]

reddit?

[@JayPrakash-th4rd]

@@joisco4394 PH

[@LightYagami-ep3ox]

​@@joisco4394The hub

[@ranitbarman6471]

@@joisco4394 no P**nHub, the PH tab.

[@theherk]

Nightfox, MDN, Google, Fireship, Onlyfans, Pornhub, StackOverflow, Reddit, and Claude for anybody wondering.

[@stellarlabs]

World Web War 2 is now in our lifespan, such an amazing thing🗿

[@Formedras]

Uh, yeah. I lived through it already. IE v Firefox v Chrome. (I was team Opera.)

[@modables]

​@@Formedrasdamn u were a veteran in WW1 and you fought for the worst side

[@horeaper]

@@Formedras We failed, team Opera surrendered to Chrome :(

[@Formedras]

@@Doctom91 So did I. My family got AOL floppies. Our first CD-ROM drive was connected via a Sound Blaster 16 that my dad installed himself. I had Juno e-mail for a year or two, version 1. Unless you were using a Commodore 64 (or older systems) when it was still brand new, don't be calling me youngster.

[@fate2784]

we gonna fight with memes

[@prasannathapa1024]

Firefox for the win 🦊

[@LadyMorrigan]

Ill fight for firefox 🦊

[@Drakuba]

my man

[@nikhilhalbe]

Uhm akchtually librewolf gets the W 🤓

[@nukarma]

google owns ur goat

[@SamBrockmann]

Firefox is a shit browser.

[@janAkaliKilo]

Main problem with browser monopoly is that you have to either mimic chromium engine 1:1 or make web developers support your engine. Probably close to 1% of the modern internet doesn't work properly on Firefox, because no one cared to test it. It's already bad when we have just 3 browsers and IMO Ladybird has very low chances to make it 4.

[@Joaquin__]

I've never had a website NOT work on firefox (besides a few websites that specifically check if you are running firefox and block you, but a user agent switcher usually helps), maybe back in the day when firefox was not as good that was the case, but now its the best imo

[@LautaroQ2812]

That Serenity logo with black and red is FIRE. I wish it would still be "Serenity Browser".

[@copywright5635]

Internet Explorer is laughing in complete irrelevance

[@xburrito]

the browser was discontinued over 2 years ago, no shit

[@lussor1]

Its insecure and outdated

[@AmineGdoura]

I thought it died like 2 years ago!

[@sfp2290]

@@AmineGdoura It did. Someone here is making the joke, that a dead browser is dead. Whether that is a good joke, is up to you.

[@Ph34rNoB33r]

It's still undead as some kind of compatibility mode in Edge. Disabled by default for most people.

[@ANONYMOUS-qx4yx]

new browser wars before gta6

[@ChichaGad]

Or Half Life 3

[@quintu5]

Or Elder Scrolls VI

[@confronter1]

or chess 2

[@ChichaGad]

Or a new Kia Mhalifa video

[@croozerdog]

or me getting a girlfriend

[@lesdotcx]

Ladybird coverage is the best coverage. Thanks, Jeff.

[@patric_forreal]

Bruh has PH and OF on his firefox side bar 💀💀💀

[@StevePringle]

Don't forget about the r/UpvotedBecauseBoobs By the way, what's the second one after Stack Overflow?

[@teslainvestah5003]

OF? the optifine mod for minecraft?

[@last_fanboy_of_golb]

That's where Jeff post his firebase tutorial with cutscenes of his feet

[@Microphunktv-jb3kj]

not a surprise there that american young men are simps

[@adityachaturvedi8962]

Internet Explorer will get to know about the war 20 years after the war has ended.

[@llgogo]

Happy new year 2009! So haply that I changed to Internet explorer lol XD

[@dulguunjargal1199]

Internet Explorer: HOLY SHIT GTA 6 IS COMING OUT GUYS LOOK AT THE NEW TRAILER OMG!!!!

[@MidnightMysteries-pz5hr]

I don't understand why people say WWW even though, if you say World Wide Web, you're gonna be faster than when you say WWW

[@sanjaymaurya5520]

W3 wo be much faster

[@ekhiw]

​@@sanjaymaurya5520 why noy 6U

[@hedlund]

Because coming to that conclusion required you to think for a little bit. Thinking before speaking is self-evidently anathema to the vast majority of eyeballs on the internet.

[@turolretar]

WW3

[@megaclodsire]

In Spanish they say triple w

[@kreuner11]

3:58 LibWeb and LibJS, and those are the wrong repos, since all the code is in the Ladybird monorepo

[@ToyKeeper]

I've been using the Dillo browser since 2001. For my use, it has outlasted Netscape, Mozilla, Galeon, Midori, Opera, Firefox, Chrome, Vivaldi, Chromium, Ungoogled Chromium, and Firefox again.

[@parthsalat]

Is it more feature packed than Vivaldi?

[@ToyKeeper]

@@parthsalat No, much of the appeal is what it _doesn't_ do. It's a super fast and lightweight "Web 1.0" browser which just displays pages and that's it.

[@sorsun46]

You know things are going downhill when one of the most trustable sources of tech news has 20% of his video consisting on a ad. What a time to be alive. Thankfuly we have Sponsorblock.

[@lazyalpaca7]

I believed building a browser was hard simply because of making a new js engine would take forever, but somehow Libjs seems to even support more of the standards than blink yet it's soo young. I am soo confused

[@RubenKelevra]

@@lazyalpaca7 it's not difficult to make a Javascript engine. It's difficult to make a fast Javascript engine. Apart from this most crashes I had with Ladybird is due to Javascript issues. Disabling scripting always fixed my crashes so far. So there's a long road ahead :)

[@bepamungkas]

Js is minuscule in terms of engineering workload compared to anything that comes out of W3C.

[@cmyk8964]

CSS3 is also a fuckload of work to make standards-compliant

[@PseudoProphet]

People do not change whatever they're using for small benefits they can get with another product. They only change the product if there is a paradigm shift. And I do not see Google losing this phone. They are everywhere.

[@stonic4467]

I used chrome for years knowing there was better options. The only thing that got me to switch was youtube taking ages to load with adblock enabled. Firefox with ublockorigin now. Its funny the only thing that pushed me off chrome was google itself trying to push people off adblocking.

[@hamzahshahid]

Yall really need to give firefox a chance, it's improved so much

[@TheNefastor]

I've never stopped using it. I use Chrome, Firefox and Edge for different things in different VM's to limit each one's ability to get a clear picture of me. If I could, I'd use a different browser for every website I log in to.

[@t3dotgg]

“tRCP style auto complete” you think I was just gonna let that one slip by

[@RyGuyTheAVGuy]

" Lost my love, lost my land Lost the last place I could stand There's no place I can be Since I've found Serenity And you can't take the sky from me."

[@johnnygovroom]

Firefly

[@mr.alkenly889]

once its on linux I will definitely use it and financially support it, I hate the closed source conglomerates that rule everything

[@beautyofsylence]

Ladybird just switched from C++ to using Swift for development so it's going to be fun seeing those 500,000 lines get migrated. I feel like this will be vapourware unfortunately...

[@-Blue-_]

Apple made language 🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤢most trashiest of the trash 🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮

[@BitWise501]

You don't need to migrate c++ code with a new swift.

[@famailiaanima]

1:34 yeah right don't have access to drugs

[@apollolux]

Sometime between 2006 and 2008, I wrote in JavaScript a text parser similar to a BBCode parser to try to parse really simple HTML (like, HTML 2, HTML 3 style text) and render it using the Sphere Game Engine. Back then, Sphere only had bitmap font rendering with color overlaying rather than TrueType/OpenType font rendering, so I had to manually add visual formatting like boldfacing (by doubling and offsetting), italicizing (by skewing the bitmaps), and resizing. Studying the engine's source code for rendering textboxes, as well as the source for its Windows-only TrueType-to-bitmap font converter, gave me greater appreciation for the kind of work that browsers have to do even for the simple function of rendering legible text.

[@slavic_commonwealth]

Font rendering is such a rabbit hole

[@LordOfCake]

Rendering legible text is not simple. Search for a blog post called "text rendering hates you" on the internet and you'll get just a glimpse of how many headaches there are to consider.

[@bug5654]

"We're creating a world where anyone, anywhere may express his or her beliefs, no matter how singular, without fear of being coerced into silence or conformity." I too remember internet in the 90s. This 2020s internet is very different.

[@afjelidfjssaf]

"This 2020s internet is very different." thats just false lol, you keep using mega corp platforms and then complain when you have to follow their rules. If you don't like it here, go somewhere else. There are enough places on the internet for absolute free speech, like 4chan

[@bug5654]

@@afjelidfjssaf How dare I expect those who edit to obey the laws about editing instead of getting undeserved protections. Enjoy when your little terrarium before the cracks shatter.

[@tiefensucht]

Can't we give Firefox more love instead of inventing new browsers and forking old ones? I mean even Firefox as the biggest indie browser has a market share of 2.74% (mobile 0.55%). People actually need to use these browsers to make a difference. Their pure existence isn't enough.

[@user-nj5gi7iw7v]

hear hear

[@Formedras]

Both are necessary. Even Mozilla believes that, having mourned the loss of both Presto (Opera versions 7-12) and EdgeHTML (Edge versions 20-44).

[@tiefensucht]

@@user-nj5gi7iw7v browse browse!

[@vw9zs]

Get fcked Firefox! Mozilla needs to stop being such a g©©gle shill and stop the project about injecting sponsored ad metrics to browser. We don't need a chrome copy! Maybe if they stop paying stupid amounts to the CEO they can afford to work on something actually useful for a change??

[@thieftheodore]

Firefox get most of their money from Google. We should back GNOME Web instead since it's non chromium and they don't get money from Google

[@Tenebris8444]

1:03 no way someone took a screenshot with PH/OF on and thought it was fine XDDDDDD

[@pacman_pol_pl_polska]

Oldest meme in the book.

[@elxakiltse8773]

what is OF?

[@LordOfCake]

@@elxakiltse8773 OnlyFans

[@abstracto.]

​@@elxakiltse8773 OnlyFans

[@EthelJung-j5w]

0:09 "In his declaration of independence of Cyberspace" while it says "Declaration of the Interdependence of Cyberspace", which is almost the opposite of independence.

[@foobar-y2h]

at 1:02, few noticed the tabs, @Fireship is a goat when it comes to memes

[@hedlund]

Wait, how the hell do you know what others did or did not see? You're more than a little bit magical, by the sound of things.

[@foobar-y2h]

@@hedlund I scrolled through the comments for about 30 seconds, so I thought so. Besides, I said a FEW might have noticed the tabs... So, I'm not sure what are you upset about!?

[@JakeDelanois]

It's heartening to learn about a promising project like Ladybird that emphasizes a no-profit motive and open source movement. Looking forward to its release and evolution.

[@toast1797]

Great to see Ladybird getting the attention it deserves

[@Dattobayo]

1:57 I was waiting for a punchline.

[@releventhurt]

God will not be mocked. It's a beautiful prayer

[@wedge_one]

Firefox tabs sidebar what? Oh, it's in a testing build. Cool!

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

There's no browser war. There's Firefox and there's 90 variants of Chrome called things like Edge, OperaGX, Brave, etc.

[@aus10d]

VERY cool to see ladybird getting some PR. still a work in progress, but great to see people building something that others thought was impossible.

[@artvandelayimports]

Was not expecting a Ladybird browser video from this channel, hope to see the Ladybird browser grow in the near future

[@akin242002]

I'm watching this on Edge. Me: Let them fight.

[@adorp]

Edge is chromium.

[@nicomoron001]

Edge is literally cancer (for computers)

[@akin242002]

@@nicomoron001 Correction: Google Chrome is literally computer RAM cancer.

[@NIsForNick67]

i edge to this comment

[@joshuahernandez-th6ov]

Edge is a piece of garbage browser that no one uses. Everyone despise edge because is to bloated and crappy. Their bunch of liars. They steal our data and also forcing everyone to use it against user’s will. No wonder crappy edge market share is decreasing due to their dirty tactics. Crappy edge is digging its own grave. Just stick with google chrome.

[@deltarno7502]

*Yoda voice* Begun, the browser wars have.

[@gotoastal]

There were already several browser wars

[@baconbazooka]

Netscape Navigator is the still the goat

[@tengille]

I'm more of a GNU IceCat person

[@atemoc]

@@tengille It's literally Firefox

[@shisui2575]

After coming to a standstill in the framework wars, web devs have now moved to making entirely new browsers, truly inspiring.

[@NutsforDonuts-qc1vx]

The problem is since the beginning there has only been one internet structure. There are no alternatives to the internet of today.

[@inzaghiposumaalkahfi9650]

0:52 It's on August 12, 2024 or Safar 7, 1446 AH and you're watching Fireship Videos about Brink of another Browser War on the Code Report Series.

[@IzzumiPoshaf]

👍👍

[@MODEST500]

assalamo alaikum warahmatullahi wabarqatuhu

[@TwoTeaTee]

WHat has this channel turned into lately @Fireship ? Sponsorship infused content which makes me take everything with a grain of salt in recent videos.

[@AlzhinSon]

0:32 they account for 84.2 % of the market share according to that chart not over 90 %

[@kaansininide8282]

Source?

[@ashrab9164]

🤓

[@MrBoubource]

If you look at phones, it's a different story

[@WendyFag]

85.2 actually 🤓

[@MarcSpctr]

Google definitely controls all browsers. Like even Safari and Firefox. over 95% (maybe more) funding to Firefox comes from Google.

[@bahibrahim101]

Maybe one day we'll have full ad videos instead of just a sponsored section

[@Bard_Gaming]

0:09 "In his declaration of independence of Cyberspace" while it says "Declaration of the Interdependence of Cyberspace", which is almost the opposite of independence.

[@SKZEY]

1:04 interesting tabs you have there

[@thekatyperrymemechannel2122]

Missed opportunity to say WWW.3

[@leon-iq9fx]

So now a watch has twice more brightness than my 1,200 dollar phone💀

[@GoatScrab69]

This man turned a joke into a series with hope, despair, loss and hype. He deserves every bit of recognition he has and even beyond that

[@sankhuz]

People still gonna use CHROME 😅

[@TimestampMaster]

Will you please do a video on Spring Boot?

[@corbbing]

1:33 couldn't relate more

[@acer-star]

Actullay, Google being not evil is a blessing for internet world

[@maninalift]

- make it work - make it good - make it fast - -make it profitable- - divest your shares before VC catches on

[@BugCatLove]

3:34 is that Linus??? 👀

[@abdullahfarooq4770]

How is that Linus

[@EngineeriumEnergy]

firefox is objectively the best browser and anyone who disagrees should be dismissed at face value. Not biased.

[@Joaquin__]

erm opra gx is cooler cuz they have twitter and post funny stuff

[@coel3572]

firefox has been shit for the last 3 to 4 years, like legit worse than chromium-based ones in some cases, wake up

[@Joaquin__]

@@coel3572 ok

[@Joaquin__]

@@coel3572 me when I lie:

[@kaqqao]

What a horrible clickbait

[@Yawne.]

Fym

[@vladislavkaras491]

I like that there are people who strive after having alternatives! Thanks for the video!

[@dubby5768]

Naming the SerenityOS because it reminded him of the Serenity prayer after being in rehab for three months as a way to keep him on the good path is beautiful. SOS really was because he was tryna save his soul, no?

[@rch5395]

Based temple os users 👇

[@Mewguys]

Internet explorer still thinks it’s the only browser 😂

[@mikyas392]

as a Brave user, idk why ppl still use the processor hungry browsers like chrome and opera.

[@HellDuke-]

Can't speak for Opera since I do not use it, but for practical purposes the difference in resource consumption between Brave and Chrome (I use both browsers) is practically irrelevant and unless your PC is ancient and you have to look for lightweight versions of applications for them to work, you won't see any change in performance outside of a placebo effect.

[@mikyas392]

@@HellDuke- i went from chrome to opera-gx to brave. it has been many years since i used chrome. Idk what its state is now. Opera gx is a scam, i can say that.

[@ShadowOfTheSPQR]

@@HellDuke- I would think most of those gains are just the stripping out of ads and such upfront. The internet is always faster with those tools involved.

[@cattysplat]

Extensions.

[@HellDuke-]

@@ShadowOfTheSPQR there are always optimizations you can make, not like Brave strips out all the ads anyway. My point is only that as a user you would not see any change in performance

[@kumanderlinux]

I'm all in with Ladybird. When it is ready, I will include it in Kumander for sure. 💜

[@torvasdh]

If Firefox has actual HDR support I'd use it, but it's a massive deal breaker for me.

[@SubatomicPlanets]

Firefox Firefox Firefox!

[@SoftTofu123]

google can easily kill firefox. firefox isnt as safe as you think.

[@weBeatMedicare]

0:31 Sorry but even ALL of the browsers in that graph don't add up to over 90% market share

[@uuuumbrella]

and? those are just the most relevant 5, there's also Brave, Vivaldi, Samsung internet, lynx, Tor browser, some chinese browsers; as well as some upstarts such a Arc

[@weBeatMedicare]

@@uuuumbrella And what does that have to do with the four browsers mentioned not having over 90% market share?

[@Apeiron242]

Laughing in Vivaldi. Fuck Mozilla. They lost me when they started telling me what to think.

[@igorthelight]

Vivaldi is Chromium based ;-)

[@domisbrowsing]

Lol, what? You're unhinged

[@PixyEm]

when did mozilla tell you what to think

[@prosto_voda]

bro u use chromium shit

[@the-answer-is-42]

​​@@PixyEm I think they made a rather bad take on deplatforming, which some people found disagreeable. Nothing ever came from it other than Mozilla getting roasted. It was a while ago, though, so my memory is fuzzy, and I'm not sure that's what OP is referring to. Also I'm just explaining, I personally disagree but whatever. I'm not OP.

[@NickDrinksWater]

I hope firefox makes a comeback someday and gains much more market share like it had back in 2008

[@youtubealgorithm5977]

Title: BROWSER WAR Me: OH MY GOD THAT'S BAD *Watches video OH OKAY THAT'S GOOD

[@olbluelips]

I have been on Firefox since I could use a computer. The fact that this comes from serenity OS is cool and I like having another non-chrome option

[@marshallodom1388]

I remember being able to feed myself back when there was no internet. Yeah, I had a mullet and drank water from a garden hose, but we survived!